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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down the families | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
of people who died without leaving a will. They hand over thousands of pounds to long lost relatives | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
On today's programme... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
..the heir hunters come across a family | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
affected by one of the greatest killers of the 20th century. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Fifty million people worldwide died | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
in this pandemic and maybe perhaps as many as 100 million. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
And they delve back into football history as they uncover the estate of a local sporting hero. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
He played in front of crowds of 10,000, 15,000, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
obviously revered by the local supporters, and such, who wouldn't want that? | 0:00:59 | 0:01:05 | |
Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:12 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Less than one in three people in the UK make a will. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
For all other cases, if no obvious relatives are found, their money goes straight to the Government. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
Last year, a staggering £18 million went to the Treasury in unclaimed estates, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
that's where the Heir Hunters step in. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Over 30 companies make it their business to try and find heirs to inherit this money. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
Last year alone, they claimed back over £6.5 million for unsuspecting relatives. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
Fraser & Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
run by Andrew, Charles, and Neil Fraser. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
George R Galloway, who's got the marriages? | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Since they began over 30 years ago, they've reunited over 50,000 heirs | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
with a whopping sum of over £100 million. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
It's Thursday, the day the Treasury publishes its list of unclaimed estates, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
and as they earn their money from commission, the office need | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
to identify the big value cases on today's list. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Do you want to do an enquiry on this one, David? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
We're still a little bit up in the air at the moment, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
the list doesn't look especially good and until we get a bit further into it, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I don't really know where we're going to go at the moment. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Because the Treasury doesn't publish how much an estate is worth, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
the heir hunters have to weigh up how much research time they can afford to allocate to any one case. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:50 | |
See if you can find him, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
dying or doing anything. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:54 | |
Of the 13 cases announced, the only one that looks like it has value is the case of Brian Lloyd. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:01 | |
We're looking at a few different cases, firstly Lloyd because | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
it looks like he owns a property, in Birmingham, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
and there's going to be value on that. There's other smaller stuff, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
we're looking at, which don't own properties but just because | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
they don't doesn't mean there's not any value in it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
We don't know about shares and bank accounts, things like that. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
So maybe on Lloyd but some of the other researchers are going to be on different things. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
David Milchard, known in the office as Grimble, is starting work on the Lloyd case, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
with most of the researchers working to see what they can find out about | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
him and his property in the West Midlands. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
But there's another case, too, that's caught their eye, the smaller case of Russell Wemyss. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
Russell died on 17 May 2008 and was 81 years old. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:50 | |
His interesting surname originated from Scotland but it seems Russell spent most of his life on Tyneside. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:57 | |
He didn't own his own home and lived in a council property, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
which suggests the value of the estate will not be huge, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
but to appear on the list it must be worth at least £5,000. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
If the heir hunters can solve his case quickly and cheaply, it will be worth pursuing. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
Tony Pledger has been given Wemyss to investigate | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
but unlike the team on the big value case, his brief is to spend almost no money in solving it. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
He's working this job with only one researcher in the office, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
a local researcher at the end of a phone, and no travellers. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
It's a good name. The staff are doing other things that are probably going to be | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
a lot more productive and more value, this might only turn out to be a few thousand pounds, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
perhaps £10,000 to £15,000, I don't know. But hopefully | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
if we end up with any kin on it, that'll be good enough. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
The uncommon name has meant search results have been relatively quick. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
We've found a possible sister of the deceased who is married | 0:04:54 | 0:04:59 | |
and I'm looking for her child, she's had a child called Maureen Ellwood. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
As Maureen is not listed in the phone directory and Tony has no travellers at his disposal | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
to send round to her address, he needs to use any resources he can, including helpful neighbours. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:15 | |
We're looking into the estate of somebody who has died fairly recently | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
and I'm hoping that she, Maureen, at number 28, might be an entitled heir, you see. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
Basically, can I possibly ask you if you could stick a note in the door and ask them to give me a call? | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
Thank you, ta-ta. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
So far, Tony has established that Russell's father was a Wemyss and his mother, an Ayre. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
A census search of children born in the area from the Wemyss/Ayre marriage | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
has thrown up around 15 potential brothers and sisters for Russell. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
It also looks like two of Russell's possible sisters, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Elizabeth and Winifred, died as infants around the end of the First World War. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
For heir hunters, this is significant and suggests that the children were victims | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
of one of the biggest medical disasters of the 20th century. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 was a global catastrophe which killed millions. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:17 | |
It's called the Spanish Flu | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
because the epidemic supposedly started in Spain, at least that's | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
where the first reports that appeared in the newspapers came from. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
And because it was wartime, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
although flu was also very prevalent in Britain and France, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
the papers were censored. So the first reports | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
we all had were of this epidemic disease erupting in Spain... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
one of the first casualties was the King of Spain...and before long, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
people starting referring to the disease as the Spanish Influenza, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
and it invaded every town and city in Britain in a series of waves. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
To make matters worse, the pandemic reached its peak at the end | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
of the First World War, and it didn't discriminate against class. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
Not only were ordinary families like the Wemyss affected, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
the Prime Minister of the day, Lloyd George, contracted the virus but survived. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
It was essentially brought back from the Front, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
so soldiers returning on furlough from northern France would typically | 0:07:21 | 0:07:27 | |
alight in London or in Manchester, or other northern towns, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
and you would see the first outbreak of cases around the railway stations. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Then from the centre of cities it would rapidly spread out | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
to the suburbs and then into the countryside. Typically children | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
would get sick, and as one health officer described it, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
he visited a school and witnessed children...he described them as | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
sitting at their desks and suddenly drooping like a plant whose roots | 0:07:53 | 0:07:59 | |
had suddenly been pulled up. So he was struck by the fact that | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
children seemed to be particularly affected and that it would come on very, very suddenly. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
Fifty million people worldwide died in this pandemic, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
and given that something like a quarter of the British population | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
were affected by the Spanish Influenza, it's very likely that in | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
most families there would be at least one or two, if not more, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
members of the family tree who would have had direct experience. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
It was an unprecedented killer, with the death toll in Britain reaching 228,000. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:39 | |
Children like Elizabeth and Winifred Wemyss could have | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
picked up the virus anywhere, as it was found to be airborne. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
It was a pandemic that truly affected every single continent and country on the globe, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:55 | |
and that is really what makes it unique in history. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
The Spanish Flu may have claimed the lives of two of Russell's | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
potential siblings, but there were another 12 who survived. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
Finding out if they all got married and had children is a big research job. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
Obviously we have to be careful with the amount of money | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
that we spend on cases, we don't have money to burn, and indeed, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
applying for loads of certificates initially doesn't really get you anywhere. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
You've got to know what you're doing because obviously, with a smaller case, | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
you might not make so much of a profit, or indeed any profit at all, than you would with a bigger case. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
Tony needs to keep his research costs to an absolute minimum, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
but, luckily, David Milchard doesn't have those concerns. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
He's heading up the Lloyd investigation, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
which looks to be worth a fairly large amount of money. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
He's already established that there's a property which may be worth around £80,000. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:56 | |
We're going to go full pelt on this one, I've got several researchers in the office to do the research here, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:04 | |
and I've got one traveller at the moment. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
It's well worth putting a bit of resource into this one. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Brian Lloyd died on 27 August 2007, aged just 51. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
He died suddenly from a heart attack, and hadn't written a will. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
Brian had worked all his life in a factory near his home, where he was quite a character. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
Brian would do anything for you, but he would spend 20 minutes saying | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
-the reason why he couldn't do it for you and then spend two minutes doing the job. -That's Brian. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
That was Brian, you know. You'd go in there and say, "look Brian, can you do this?" | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
And he'd say, "I've got this to do, I've got that to do." | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Then after 20 minutes he'd say, "leave it here," and he could do it in two minutes. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
And he'd make a good job of it. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
He was a likeable character, and he was probably a jovial character, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
easy to get on with, and I think a lot of people knew Brian | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
but probably never knew Brian on the inside because he was never really close to anybody. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
He was the sort of chap you could talk to anytime but I don't think | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
you would ever really know what Brian would be thinking. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
We found that the deceased lived in Walsall Road in Wensbury, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
it seemed to be the family home for a long, long time, both his parents died there. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:27 | |
It's this property which will mean there's some value to the case. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
To check this out and to hopefully sniff out some family leads, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
he's sending senior researcher, Paul Matthews, to make some door to door enquiries. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Fraser's have a team of travelling heir hunters across the country, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
who are ready to go wherever the hunt takes them. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
They pick up records, talk to those who knew the deceased, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and make door to door enquiries, all in the search for clues. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
And the leads they uncover on the ground are all-important in the race to find and sign up heirs. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:07 | |
Ex-police sergeant Paul Matthews is the Midlands-based heir hunter, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
with 23 years of detective work behind him, not much gets past Paul's keen eyes. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
I'm now on the way to the address where he lived, firstly to find out | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
whether it was his property and to put a value on it, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
knock on a few neighbours' doors to try and find out if they knew about his family, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and then afterwards we'll be on our way to Walsall Register Office. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
As Paul threads his way through the Birmingham traffic, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
back in the office research is progressing. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
We also identified a Harold Thorneycroft, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
who disappears from that address in the '80s. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
Thorneycroft is the mother's maiden name | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
and it turns out that that's the deceased's grandfather. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Harold Thorneycroft and Lily Haskett were Brian's maternal grandparents. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
A birth search had revealed that Lily, Brian's mother, was their only child. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
This means that from the maternal side there is no-one alive to inherit. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
With the team now focusing on the search for paternal aunts and uncles, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Paul has made it to Birmingham. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
We'll try a few neighbours and see what's what. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
But as they now know, there is less chance of finding living heirs for Brian's family. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
Any information Paul gets could be crucial. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Did you know Brian Lloyd who used to live at number 203? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Is there anybody round here who knew him? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
That wasn't overly helpful. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
But all that effort comes to nothing. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
I'll now have to go to Walsall Register Office, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
they've got a marriage that I'm to pick, up so I'm going to try one last knock on the door, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
the last house to try, while I'm here, then I'll be off to Walsall Register Office. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
That's it, failed badly. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
He's identified Brian Lloyd's property but no-one seems to know anything about his family. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:13 | |
But Paul doesn't give up that easily, before going to the register office | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
his keen detective eyes spot something. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Last throw of the dice, he's got to get his meat from somewhere, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
it's only a few doors down so a long shot, but worth asking. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Hello. -Morning. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
My name's Paul Matthews, I work for a probate research company called Fraser & Fraser. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
-What can I do for you, mate? -Brian Lloyd, a few doors down, he passed away 18 months ago. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-That's right. -He never made a will. We're trying to find his relatives. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-Did you know the gent at all? -Yes, we were very good friends. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Right. I've drawn a blank knocking on neighbours' doors, but not yours! | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
It's a result for Paul. It turns out Brian had been a regular customer for over 30 years. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
Brian was very methodical, and I don't know why he didn't make a will. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
Even his £1 coins were laid in line, he kept a daily accounts book, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:11 | |
so it does surprise me that you're telling me that he hasn't left a will to his estate. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:18 | |
And it's all the more surprising considering how large Brian's estate may actually turn out to be. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:25 | |
He was never short of money. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
There was three houses which are in the past, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
and there was the money from his father, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
there was the money from his grandfather. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
I would have thought that Brian was never short. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
It wouldn't surprise me to go to £250,000. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
It turns out, over the last few years Brian had inherited | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
his grandfather and his father's money and properties. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
But despite sitting on such a large fortune, Brian wasn't a man of airs and graces. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
Very down to earth, if he thought you was a fool, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
he'd have told you you was a fool. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
But he was very, very social with the locals, very neighbourly. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
He only worked round the corner, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
two streets away, about 400 yards as the crow flies. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
In later life, he kept his car up the garage so he'd go up on his bike because he ended up with gout. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
I says that was a rich man's disease, and he just smiled at that one. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:28 | |
Right, he was a bachelor, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
no siblings known. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
The dad died here in about 1994, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
the grandparents used to live at 199, basically 199, 201, and 203 were all in the family. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:44 | |
The estimated value of Brian's estate has just gone from £80,000 to potentially £250,000. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:51 | |
It's now more important than ever to find at least one heir | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
if there's any chance of stopping it all going to the Treasury, or a rival heir hunting company. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
The two cases under investigation today, that of Russell Wemyss | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
and Brian Lloyd, still have a long way to go. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
And as they hit the research hard, they're about to discover | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
that all their hours of work may have been in vain. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
OK, I'm much obliged to you. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Thank you, bye-bye. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Wrong family. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
For some heir hunters, getting the right result | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
doesn't just come from searching through records. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Bob Smith is one of Fraser's travelling senior researchers, but he's also crazy about football. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:46 | |
Anyone? Anyone? Yes! | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
A lifelong supporter of Arsenal, he never made it onto the pitch at Highbury but has been | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
a passionate player, and manager, at East Grinstead Football Club | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
since he moved to the area in the late '80s. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Come on, quick, quick. Come on! | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
In your pairs, let's go jogging again. Come on. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
So when he was referred the case of Trevor Haydon, he could not have been happier. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
It was to mix his skill of heir hunting with his passion for the beautiful game. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
One thing that struck me, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
having looked at the birth certificate of our deceased, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
his father's occupation is given as a professional footballer. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Now being a football-loving person myself, that struck a chord | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
and I began to take a great interest in trying to find family members | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
of our deceased, Trevor Haydon, and find out about his life. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Trevor Haydon died on the 9th of November 2006, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
after having lived in Bristol all his life. As he left a property, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
his legacy was worth around £140,000, but it seemed there was no-one to inherit. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:56 | |
He died without making a will and no known family. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
The solicitors had employed a local tracing agency to try | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
and track down family members but they were, at that point, unsuccessful. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:12 | |
Tracking down heirs to this fortune would take Bob back into the Haydon family history | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
to find any brothers and sisters of Trevor's parents, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
and it was Trevor's famous father | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
who had drawn Bob to the case in the first place. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Jimmy Haydon was a professional footballer for Bristol Rovers | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
and a local superstar. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
During the 1920's, he was one of the club's longest serving players, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
making 318 appearances for the team. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
CHEERING | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
Their first choice left-back for the whole of his career, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
he never played for another club, something that was extremely rare at the time. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
His reputation as a strong and determined defender | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
as well as being a home-grown player meant he was hugely popular with the fans. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
But Bob was about to find out that Jimmy wasn't the only footballer in the family. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
His son, our deceased, Trevor, was also a well-known footballer in the area, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
and it transpires that he played locally for one of the semi-professional clubs, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
Bath City, in fact. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
So obviously it was a family trait, being professional footballers. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
To find out more about Trevor's sporting career, Bob hits the road. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
I'm going to pop in to Bath City Football Club | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and try and talk to someone there | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
who may know something about Trevor, our deceased. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
Whenever I travel round the country, I always look at football grounds | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
whatever city, village, town I'm in. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
If I see floodlights, I'm always, where's that? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
Go on lots of little detours just to drive past the football ground. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
Sad, isn't it? | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
I'm here at Twerton Park, the home of Bath City Football Club. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
I've been told by members of Trevor Haydon's family | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
that Trevor, at some point, played here during his career | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
as a professional footballer, so I'm hoping to meet up with | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
someone who might be able to tell me more about Trevor and his life. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
Bob's here to meet Bath City's current chairman, Phil Weaver. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
I've been watching Bath City since about 1955, but Trevor played, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
I think '51 or '52, just for a season, but scored quite a few goals. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Right, so he was a goal scorer, then? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
-Oh, absolutely, yeah. -Were they full-time at that point? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
They weren't full-time then, at that time there was | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
the maximum wage in the Football League and so players would leave the First Division... | 0:22:04 | 0:22:10 | |
-now Premier League sides... to come to Bath City. -Really? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Yes. They could get a maximum of £25 a week in the League, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
but come down here and get 30 quid, so they did! | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
Those higher wages would have been comparable to getting an extra £150 a week today. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
It's a far cry from today's Premiership contracts, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
but professional footballers of the day weren't hard done by, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
earning the equivalent of £800 a week. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Bearing in mind Trevor and his father were both local lads, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
and obviously played for big teams within the local area, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
were they sort of considered celebrities as such? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
I think in those days | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
the full-time player would certainly have been if he played for | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
one of the local League teams like Bristol Rovers or Bristol City. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Somebody like Trevor playing part-time in football, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
he would certainly have been looked up to by his workmates | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
and also, of course, by the crowd in front of whom he played. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-Sure, yeah. -So we revere them. -Yes. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
And Trevor is even remembered in Bath City's official club history. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:21 | |
Looking here, he was signed in 1951 by the manager, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
who was Eddie Hapgood, late of Arsenal, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and 24 year old Trevor Haydon's hat trick, three goals, against lowly Hastings United, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:36 | |
"set City for the big time of Barry Town". | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
He'd have been popular with the crowd for scoring those goals, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
8,300 came to see that game. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
So yes, we had some good crowds in those days. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
In all honesty, I would love to have had Trevor's playing career. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
You know, he played in front of crowds of 10,000 to 15,000. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
he was paid to do something that he loves, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
obviously revered by the local supporters and such. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Who wouldn't want that? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
Armed with further information about Trevor's life, it was time to track down the heirs to his £140,000. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:21 | |
In an ideal world, if we're looking at both | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
mother's and father's families, we'd like one sister and one brother | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
so it's not a big family to research. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Unfortunately on Jimmy's side of the family, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
not only was it a large family but it was a rather fragmented family. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
They didn't really keep in contact with each other and they only really | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
had sort of sketchy information about their cousins and the names of their aunts and uncles. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
What made it even more confusing was the fact that quite often | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
aunts and uncles were known by nicknames. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
One prime example was a gentleman called George Haydon, who was known as Sam. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
Not having correct names made it very difficult to find the right | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
birth, death, and marriage records, which are the foundations of creating a family tree. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
It took the team months of record searching and many confusing | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
phone calls before they finally hit upon a crucial census document. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
Having found Jimmy's birth certificate, we were able | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
to identify some censuses which listed children, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
these would be siblings to Jimmy, brothers and sisters to Jimmy, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
Violet, Herbert, John, Frederick, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
Charles, George, Florence, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
and William, so quite a few. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
The paternal side of the family turned out to be very large. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
Jimmy, Trevor's father, in fact had nine brothers and sisters. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
Having completed our research on the paternal family, we turned our attention to the maternal family. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:04 | |
Now we had a copy of the birth of the mother of our deceased, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
but we've had a lot of difficulty in finding a marriage between the parents. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
The marriage certificate for Trevor's maternal grandparents would give the researchers | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
a timeframe in which to look for any other children they may have had. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
These would be Trevor's aunts and uncles. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Just on an off chance, I said to the researcher, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
"have a look for the marriage after the birth of the mother of the deceased," | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
and lo and behold, the marriage took place some 15 years later, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
and in the meantime there were about five children. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
In the end, they uncovered Trevor's mother Gladys's seven brothers and sisters. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
Further searches lead them to their descendents, including John Harding, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
a first cousin to Trevor and an heir to part of his £140,000 estate. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
John still lives in the Bristol area. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
Trevor was always very kind to me when I was a small boy | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
and Trevor, he played football himself, I understand, to a very good standard. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
He was friendly with quite a lot of professional footballers | 0:27:11 | 0:27:18 | |
and if there was ever what I would call a big game in Bristol, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
perhaps one of the clubs advanced in the FA Cup, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Trevor could always manage somehow to get me some very nice stand tickets. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Ah, right, a useful contact he was. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
He was a typical ex-footballer of his generation. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
He was always very friendly, always seemed very pleased to see me. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
This is an autograph book which Trevor gave me many, many years ago. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:50 | |
As you can see, it says "Merry Xmas, John, from Trevor". | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
This came to me all signed, Bristol City, the great John Atyeo. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:02 | |
Now we go Bristol Rovers, '64, '65. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
Then we go to the big stuff, Grimsby. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
THEY LAUGH TOGETHER | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
He seems very much, I would describe someone, as a man's man. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Very much so. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
Football, book-keeping, horses, stuff like that. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Yes. I think even though he wasn't married, there was lady friends. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
I remember he came to the farm on several occasions | 0:28:25 | 0:28:31 | |
with what I thought were very glamorous ladies, you know... | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
as a small boy, I thought, crikey! | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
-But obviously he never married. -He didn't have kids? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
No, no. He never told me, anyway. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
-That's the important thing because obviously if he did have children... -Yeah. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
they would be entitled before any cousins. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
He sounds like a very colourful character. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
He was a very nice man, Trevor, very kind. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Like I said, I liked Trevor very, very much. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
-A kindly uncle. -That's the one, yeah! | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
It's been nice to talk to the family and just ask them what they know about the family and Trevor himself. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:13 | |
Just everything about Trevor himself, his life, his life as a footballer | 0:29:14 | 0:29:21 | |
and how he may have been a local celebrity, revered by the locals, and what have you. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:26 | |
It's been fascinating, really, really good. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
But discovering Trevor's colourful life wasn't the only result for Bob. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
After eight months investigating the case, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
he has finally tracked down over 20 heirs to the £140,000 fortune | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
of his fellow footballer, Trevor Haydon. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
For every case that is solved, there are still thousands that stubbornly remain a mystery. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:09 | |
Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
With estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
the rightful heirs are out there somewhere. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
could you be the key? Could you be in line for a payout? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
Malcolm John Thomas died in Bethnal Green, in London, in March 2007. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:43 | |
Originally from Pontypool in Wales, his mother's maiden name was Griffiths. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
Do these details ring any bells? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Could you be Malcolm's closest relative and entitled to his unclaimed estate? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
Phyllis Woodcock, born Phyllis Brown, died in Littlehampton, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
West Sussex, in October 2007. Does her name ring any bells? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:03 | |
Could she be your long lost aunt or cousin? | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
Could you be the one person entitled to her estate? | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
The hunt to find out who is entitled to these estates can go any number of ways. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:21 | |
Estates can end up being worth millions of pounds or just a few thousand. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
They might find heirs within hours, or they may never find any. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
The team at Fraser & Fraser often work several cases | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
from the Treasury's weekly list, because they just never know how things will pan out. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
Tony Pledger has been looking into a small case, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
there's not much value to it so he's trying to make headway all on his own. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:50 | |
Would you know if he would have had a niece or anything at all? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Somebody mentioned there might have been one. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
What areas are we doing for marriages? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
But Grimble, and most of the rest of the office, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
has all the resources to investigate the estate of Brian Lloyd. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
It may be worth as much as £250,000. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It started out very promising, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
it's got a bit of value to it. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
The trouble is, it looks like it's drying up. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
We can't seem to find any relatives at the moment. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
We're just having some difficulty in latching on to the family, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
so hopefully we'll get a little break in it later on in the day. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Brian died suddenly at the age of 51, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
leaving a house in the West Midlands and a substantial amount of money, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
but heirs to this fortune are looking thin on the ground. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
Brian's mother was an only child, making the maternal side a dead end, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
but they may have just had a break as they've uncovered | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
a possible brother on the father's side, Alfred, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
and at the moment he's looking like the only route to heirs. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
They've gone back over the births, concentrating on Knighton, and you've got to pin things right down. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:02 | |
There's a possible brother of the father of the deceased, an Alfred, born in 1914, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:09 | |
so we'll work that one now and see if it is a brother. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
If Alfred is an uncle of Brian Lloyd, his descendants would be | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
cousins to Brian and in line for the potentially huge inheritance. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
Finding out if Alfred had children is key. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
I'm looking for an Alfred M Lloyd, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
so Joe and I are both ploughing through looking for his marriage. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
We don't have any ideas with the surname Lloyd, it's all kind of, at the moment, spec. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
We could well end up with a dead job here, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
definitely nothing on mum's side, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
it's going to be 50/50 on dad's side. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
We've still got this Alfred but he's certainly got to have | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
at least one kid who's living or descendants from it but... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Hello. | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
How are we doing with our Alfred? | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
It's going to be difficult, isn't it? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
As they search for Alfred's children, they must get | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
the certificates to identify exactly who the paternal grandparents are. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
This will confirm if Alfred is indeed an uncle. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
It will also confirm if there are any other aunts and uncles. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Things aren't looking very hopeful at the moment. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
We'll keep looking until we have all the certificates back and proved or disproved what we found. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
Until that's come in and we finish the research then we'll keep going. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
The fact that it's hard for us, it's hard for everybody else. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
But even before Alfred can be confirmed as an uncle, they find some bad news. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:43 | |
Well, we've just found the uncle of the deceased, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
he dies aged 22, in Wales. So no issue. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
Do you know what his father's name was? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Not only has this Alfred died without having children, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
but a call to one of his relatives reveals something else. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
It looks like we're on the wrong tree there. I'm much obliged to you. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Thank you, bye-bye. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Wrong family. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Unfortunately, there is no uncle Alfred in this family and unless | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
there are any other any other aunts and uncles, it's not looking good. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
It would be a shame if we can't find somebody. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
It's possible, you know, if the parents of the deceased | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
were only children, there is nobody to inherit and it'll go to the Crown. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
That's the way the legislation goes in this country. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
As travelling heir hunter, Paul Matthews, arrives at the Walsall Register Office, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
the case now hinges on what information is contained in the certificates. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
Unfortunately, the last certificate that I've obtained, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
which was purely a hunch by the office that this may be | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
the right marriage of the deceased's grandparents. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
Unfortunately by confirming that, the response from the office, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
well, now that marriage is right, they now know that all this dies out. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Basically, there are no heirs, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
so all the hard work, running round, it's come to no result. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
So it looks as though on this particular occasion that the estates | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
are going to be going to the Government, I'm afraid. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
So that's life, you win some, you lose some. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
It's a disappointing end to everyone's efforts. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
Brian Lloyd's potential £250,000 fortune will now be absorbed by the Treasury. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:34 | |
And for Fraser's, there's also no commission to make. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
Now it's just down to Grimble to close the case down. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
So that birth... | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
But there's better news for Tony. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
Against all the odds, he's single-handedly making great progress on the Wemyss' job. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
It's a far less valuable case but if Tony can solve it easily, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
it's worth Fraser's investigating it. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Russell Wemyss died in 2008 aged 81, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
after having lived for most of his life in a council property on Tyneside. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:10 | |
Russell was a pure gentleman. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
Old-fashioned type of gentleman what you don't see these days. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
He was sound. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
We used to talk about the garden, talk about the weather | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
and what we're planting, and what we're doing. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
I miss looking for him in a morning. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
He used to yell out, "Is he up?" | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
He was great. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
Whilst he may not have left a large estate, the chance of finding heirs is good. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
It's expanded out pretty quickly. It is going to be near kin | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
so we more than likely will carry it to a conclusion. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
The reason I think it's going to be near kin is because the tree | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
which Amy's writing out has got several names on it already. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
Earlier in the day, Tony got a neighbour to ask a potential heir | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
to contact him, and Maureen has just phoned back. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
So your granny, Thomasina, would have had a sister, I think, Ellen Shaw Ayre, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
I'm assuming, therefore, that your mother had several brothers and sisters. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
They've all died now, yeah, but, you see, the problem is that we could obviously establish | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
that you might be a blood relative of the deceased but whether or not | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
there are other people of a nearer degree that come into it, you see what I mean. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
It turns out that Maureen is related to Russell as a first cousin once removed, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
but she may not turn out to be an heir if Tony finds closer kin, such as nephews and nieces. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:34 | |
Maureen does, however, know lots of family information. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Russell was quite jovial really, so was his brothers. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
They were very good friends with my grandda and they used to drink | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
in the same pub together and go on the day trips together, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:54 | |
and they were very close. Russell and his brothers were very close. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
Maureen was a bridesmaid at Russell's sister, Betty's wedding, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
but as they got older, the two families saw each other less and less. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
It was strange both called Wemyss, basically because Wemyss was a very uncommon name, you know. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:16 | |
And, of course, Auntie Nelly had the four boys and one girl, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and me Nana had...oh, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
three boys and three girls. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
No, and he wasn't married either? No, but we're getting a good picture now. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
Finding Maureen has been a godsend for Tony. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
She's been able to confirm who out of the potential | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
15 brothers and sisters are, in fact, Russell's siblings. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
She's also confirmed that as well as the sister who died as an infant, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
incredibly, all the other brothers remained bachelors and died without children. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
Russell's sister, Betty, did however have a son and two daughters. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
As nephews and nieces, they take inheritance priority over Maureen and other sole heirs. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
Hello, Mr Clark. This is Tony Pledger, from Fraser & Fraser, the probate researchers in London. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
Despite working on the tightest of budgets, Tony has finally cracked the case of Russell Wemyss. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:16 | |
He's found the nephew and two nieces who will be the sole heirs to his estate. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
Still living in the Tyneside area, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
Alan Clark is the son of Russell's sister, Betty, who died over 40 years ago. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
The last time I saw Russell was just after my mother died. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:36 | |
I went to stop with the brothers, me uncles, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
and I was there for about three or four weeks, and then I just went my own way. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
'65, '66. My mother died '65, so I would say about '66. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
That was the last time I seen him. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
It was Alan's mother and Russell's sister, Betty, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
who seem to be the link holding the Wemyss family together. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
When she died at the age of just 42, much of the family lost contact. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:07 | |
I just would like to know a bit more about the family on her side, you know, because it is a big family. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:14 | |
It's surprising. I was surprised how big it probably will be. It might be even bigger than what I think. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
As one of just three heirs, Alan and his two sisters, Joyce and Joan, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
will share in Russell's estate, which turns out to be around £14,000. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
It's nice if something could be left, but I'm not really interested. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
I'm more interested in the family name and hopefully we're going to find more out about it. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
I am honestly, the money side of it, not interested at all. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
Buried at the family plot in South Shields cemetery, Alan goes to pay his respects to his Uncle Russell. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
He's with the rest of his family, I think, I hope. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
I know his mam and dad's buried here. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
It's a lovely spot where he lies. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
It's very emotional here, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
knowing that me Mam's just further up from Russell. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
Very emotional. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:14 | |
I won't see me Mam later. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Been an interesting day, actually. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
Peaceful. Very nice. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:25 | |
What I'd like to do is put a cross or something | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
on Russell's and me Mam's grave, just to say that they're there, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
As you see, it's just a hole in the ground at the moment. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
It'd be nice to give them something nice that people can look and say, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
"there's a Wemyss and a Clark." It'd be nice. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
If you would like to find out more about how to build a family tree, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
go to bbc.co.uk | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 |