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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down the families

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of people who died without leaving a will. They hand over thousands of pounds to long lost relatives

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who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme...

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..the heir hunters come across a family

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affected by one of the greatest killers of the 20th century.

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Fifty million people worldwide died

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in this pandemic and maybe perhaps as many as 100 million.

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And they delve back into football history as they uncover the estate of a local sporting hero.

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He played in front of crowds of 10,000, 15,000,

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obviously revered by the local supporters, and such, who wouldn't want that?

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Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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Less than one in three people in the UK make a will.

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For all other cases, if no obvious relatives are found, their money goes straight to the Government.

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Last year, a staggering £18 million went to the Treasury in unclaimed estates,

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that's where the Heir Hunters step in.

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Over 30 companies make it their business to try and find heirs to inherit this money.

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Last year alone, they claimed back over £6.5 million for unsuspecting relatives.

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Fraser & Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain

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run by Andrew, Charles, and Neil Fraser.

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George R Galloway, who's got the marriages?

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They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs.

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Since they began over 30 years ago, they've reunited over 50,000 heirs

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with a whopping sum of over £100 million.

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It's Thursday, the day the Treasury publishes its list of unclaimed estates,

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and as they earn their money from commission, the office need

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to identify the big value cases on today's list.

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Do you want to do an enquiry on this one, David?

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We're still a little bit up in the air at the moment,

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the list doesn't look especially good and until we get a bit further into it,

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I don't really know where we're going to go at the moment.

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Because the Treasury doesn't publish how much an estate is worth,

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the heir hunters have to weigh up how much research time they can afford to allocate to any one case.

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See if you can find him,

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dying or doing anything.

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Of the 13 cases announced, the only one that looks like it has value is the case of Brian Lloyd.

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We're looking at a few different cases, firstly Lloyd because

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it looks like he owns a property, in Birmingham,

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and there's going to be value on that. There's other smaller stuff,

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we're looking at, which don't own properties but just because

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they don't doesn't mean there's not any value in it.

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We don't know about shares and bank accounts, things like that.

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So maybe on Lloyd but some of the other researchers are going to be on different things.

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David Milchard, known in the office as Grimble, is starting work on the Lloyd case,

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with most of the researchers working to see what they can find out about

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him and his property in the West Midlands.

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But there's another case, too, that's caught their eye, the smaller case of Russell Wemyss.

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Russell died on 17 May 2008 and was 81 years old.

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His interesting surname originated from Scotland but it seems Russell spent most of his life on Tyneside.

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He didn't own his own home and lived in a council property,

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which suggests the value of the estate will not be huge,

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but to appear on the list it must be worth at least £5,000.

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If the heir hunters can solve his case quickly and cheaply, it will be worth pursuing.

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Tony Pledger has been given Wemyss to investigate

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but unlike the team on the big value case, his brief is to spend almost no money in solving it.

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He's working this job with only one researcher in the office,

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a local researcher at the end of a phone, and no travellers.

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It's a good name. The staff are doing other things that are probably going to be

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a lot more productive and more value, this might only turn out to be a few thousand pounds,

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perhaps £10,000 to £15,000, I don't know. But hopefully

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if we end up with any kin on it, that'll be good enough.

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The uncommon name has meant search results have been relatively quick.

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We've found a possible sister of the deceased who is married

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and I'm looking for her child, she's had a child called Maureen Ellwood.

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As Maureen is not listed in the phone directory and Tony has no travellers at his disposal

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to send round to her address, he needs to use any resources he can, including helpful neighbours.

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We're looking into the estate of somebody who has died fairly recently

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and I'm hoping that she, Maureen, at number 28, might be an entitled heir, you see.

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Basically, can I possibly ask you if you could stick a note in the door and ask them to give me a call?

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Thank you, ta-ta.

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So far, Tony has established that Russell's father was a Wemyss and his mother, an Ayre.

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A census search of children born in the area from the Wemyss/Ayre marriage

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has thrown up around 15 potential brothers and sisters for Russell.

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It also looks like two of Russell's possible sisters,

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Elizabeth and Winifred, died as infants around the end of the First World War.

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For heir hunters, this is significant and suggests that the children were victims

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of one of the biggest medical disasters of the 20th century.

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The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 was a global catastrophe which killed millions.

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It's called the Spanish Flu

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because the epidemic supposedly started in Spain, at least that's

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where the first reports that appeared in the newspapers came from.

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And because it was wartime,

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although flu was also very prevalent in Britain and France,

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the papers were censored. So the first reports

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we all had were of this epidemic disease erupting in Spain...

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one of the first casualties was the King of Spain...and before long,

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people starting referring to the disease as the Spanish Influenza,

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and it invaded every town and city in Britain in a series of waves.

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To make matters worse, the pandemic reached its peak at the end

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of the First World War, and it didn't discriminate against class.

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Not only were ordinary families like the Wemyss affected,

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the Prime Minister of the day, Lloyd George, contracted the virus but survived.

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It was essentially brought back from the Front,

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so soldiers returning on furlough from northern France would typically

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alight in London or in Manchester, or other northern towns,

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and you would see the first outbreak of cases around the railway stations.

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Then from the centre of cities it would rapidly spread out

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to the suburbs and then into the countryside. Typically children

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would get sick, and as one health officer described it,

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he visited a school and witnessed children...he described them as

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sitting at their desks and suddenly drooping like a plant whose roots

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had suddenly been pulled up. So he was struck by the fact that

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children seemed to be particularly affected and that it would come on very, very suddenly.

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Fifty million people worldwide died in this pandemic,

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and given that something like a quarter of the British population

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were affected by the Spanish Influenza, it's very likely that in

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most families there would be at least one or two, if not more,

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members of the family tree who would have had direct experience.

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It was an unprecedented killer, with the death toll in Britain reaching 228,000.

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Children like Elizabeth and Winifred Wemyss could have

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picked up the virus anywhere, as it was found to be airborne.

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It was a pandemic that truly affected every single continent and country on the globe,

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and that is really what makes it unique in history.

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The Spanish Flu may have claimed the lives of two of Russell's

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potential siblings, but there were another 12 who survived.

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Finding out if they all got married and had children is a big research job.

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Obviously we have to be careful with the amount of money

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that we spend on cases, we don't have money to burn, and indeed,

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applying for loads of certificates initially doesn't really get you anywhere.

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You've got to know what you're doing because obviously, with a smaller case,

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you might not make so much of a profit, or indeed any profit at all, than you would with a bigger case.

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Tony needs to keep his research costs to an absolute minimum,

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but, luckily, David Milchard doesn't have those concerns.

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He's heading up the Lloyd investigation,

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which looks to be worth a fairly large amount of money.

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He's already established that there's a property which may be worth around £80,000.

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We're going to go full pelt on this one, I've got several researchers in the office to do the research here,

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and I've got one traveller at the moment.

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It's well worth putting a bit of resource into this one.

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Brian Lloyd died on 27 August 2007, aged just 51.

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He died suddenly from a heart attack, and hadn't written a will.

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Brian had worked all his life in a factory near his home, where he was quite a character.

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Brian would do anything for you, but he would spend 20 minutes saying

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-the reason why he couldn't do it for you and then spend two minutes doing the job.

-That's Brian.

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That was Brian, you know. You'd go in there and say, "look Brian, can you do this?"

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And he'd say, "I've got this to do, I've got that to do."

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Then after 20 minutes he'd say, "leave it here," and he could do it in two minutes.

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And he'd make a good job of it.

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He was a likeable character, and he was probably a jovial character,

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easy to get on with, and I think a lot of people knew Brian

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but probably never knew Brian on the inside because he was never really close to anybody.

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He was the sort of chap you could talk to anytime but I don't think

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you would ever really know what Brian would be thinking.

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We found that the deceased lived in Walsall Road in Wensbury,

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it seemed to be the family home for a long, long time, both his parents died there.

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It's this property which will mean there's some value to the case.

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To check this out and to hopefully sniff out some family leads,

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he's sending senior researcher, Paul Matthews, to make some door to door enquiries.

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Fraser's have a team of travelling heir hunters across the country,

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who are ready to go wherever the hunt takes them.

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They pick up records, talk to those who knew the deceased,

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and make door to door enquiries, all in the search for clues.

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And the leads they uncover on the ground are all-important in the race to find and sign up heirs.

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Ex-police sergeant Paul Matthews is the Midlands-based heir hunter,

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with 23 years of detective work behind him, not much gets past Paul's keen eyes.

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I'm now on the way to the address where he lived, firstly to find out

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whether it was his property and to put a value on it,

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knock on a few neighbours' doors to try and find out if they knew about his family,

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and then afterwards we'll be on our way to Walsall Register Office.

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As Paul threads his way through the Birmingham traffic,

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back in the office research is progressing.

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We also identified a Harold Thorneycroft,

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who disappears from that address in the '80s.

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Thorneycroft is the mother's maiden name

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and it turns out that that's the deceased's grandfather.

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Harold Thorneycroft and Lily Haskett were Brian's maternal grandparents.

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A birth search had revealed that Lily, Brian's mother, was their only child.

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This means that from the maternal side there is no-one alive to inherit.

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With the team now focusing on the search for paternal aunts and uncles,

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Paul has made it to Birmingham.

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We'll try a few neighbours and see what's what.

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But as they now know, there is less chance of finding living heirs for Brian's family.

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Any information Paul gets could be crucial.

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Did you know Brian Lloyd who used to live at number 203?

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Is there anybody round here who knew him?

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That wasn't overly helpful.

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But all that effort comes to nothing.

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I'll now have to go to Walsall Register Office,

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they've got a marriage that I'm to pick, up so I'm going to try one last knock on the door,

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the last house to try, while I'm here, then I'll be off to Walsall Register Office.

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That's it, failed badly.

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He's identified Brian Lloyd's property but no-one seems to know anything about his family.

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But Paul doesn't give up that easily, before going to the register office

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his keen detective eyes spot something.

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Last throw of the dice, he's got to get his meat from somewhere,

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it's only a few doors down so a long shot, but worth asking.

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-Hello.

-Morning.

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My name's Paul Matthews, I work for a probate research company called Fraser & Fraser.

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-What can I do for you, mate?

-Brian Lloyd, a few doors down, he passed away 18 months ago.

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-That's right.

-He never made a will. We're trying to find his relatives.

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-Did you know the gent at all?

-Yes, we were very good friends.

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Right. I've drawn a blank knocking on neighbours' doors, but not yours!

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It's a result for Paul. It turns out Brian had been a regular customer for over 30 years.

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Brian was very methodical, and I don't know why he didn't make a will.

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Even his £1 coins were laid in line, he kept a daily accounts book,

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so it does surprise me that you're telling me that he hasn't left a will to his estate.

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And it's all the more surprising considering how large Brian's estate may actually turn out to be.

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He was never short of money.

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There was three houses which are in the past,

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and there was the money from his father,

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there was the money from his grandfather.

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I would have thought that Brian was never short.

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It wouldn't surprise me to go to £250,000.

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It turns out, over the last few years Brian had inherited

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his grandfather and his father's money and properties.

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But despite sitting on such a large fortune, Brian wasn't a man of airs and graces.

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Very down to earth, if he thought you was a fool,

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he'd have told you you was a fool.

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But he was very, very social with the locals, very neighbourly.

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He only worked round the corner,

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two streets away, about 400 yards as the crow flies.

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In later life, he kept his car up the garage so he'd go up on his bike because he ended up with gout.

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I says that was a rich man's disease, and he just smiled at that one.

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Right, he was a bachelor,

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no siblings known.

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The dad died here in about 1994,

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the grandparents used to live at 199, basically 199, 201, and 203 were all in the family.

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The estimated value of Brian's estate has just gone from £80,000 to potentially £250,000.

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It's now more important than ever to find at least one heir

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if there's any chance of stopping it all going to the Treasury, or a rival heir hunting company.

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The two cases under investigation today, that of Russell Wemyss

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and Brian Lloyd, still have a long way to go.

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And as they hit the research hard, they're about to discover

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that all their hours of work may have been in vain.

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OK, I'm much obliged to you.

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Thank you, bye-bye.

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Wrong family.

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For some heir hunters, getting the right result

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doesn't just come from searching through records.

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Bob Smith is one of Fraser's travelling senior researchers, but he's also crazy about football.

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Anyone? Anyone? Yes!

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A lifelong supporter of Arsenal, he never made it onto the pitch at Highbury but has been

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a passionate player, and manager, at East Grinstead Football Club

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since he moved to the area in the late '80s.

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Come on, quick, quick. Come on!

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In your pairs, let's go jogging again. Come on.

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So when he was referred the case of Trevor Haydon, he could not have been happier.

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It was to mix his skill of heir hunting with his passion for the beautiful game.

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One thing that struck me,

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having looked at the birth certificate of our deceased,

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his father's occupation is given as a professional footballer.

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Now being a football-loving person myself, that struck a chord

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and I began to take a great interest in trying to find family members

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of our deceased, Trevor Haydon, and find out about his life.

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Trevor Haydon died on the 9th of November 2006,

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after having lived in Bristol all his life. As he left a property,

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his legacy was worth around £140,000, but it seemed there was no-one to inherit.

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He died without making a will and no known family.

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The solicitors had employed a local tracing agency to try

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and track down family members but they were, at that point, unsuccessful.

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Tracking down heirs to this fortune would take Bob back into the Haydon family history

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to find any brothers and sisters of Trevor's parents,

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and it was Trevor's famous father

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who had drawn Bob to the case in the first place.

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Jimmy Haydon was a professional footballer for Bristol Rovers

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and a local superstar.

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During the 1920's, he was one of the club's longest serving players,

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making 318 appearances for the team.

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CHEERING

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Their first choice left-back for the whole of his career,

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he never played for another club, something that was extremely rare at the time.

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His reputation as a strong and determined defender

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as well as being a home-grown player meant he was hugely popular with the fans.

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But Bob was about to find out that Jimmy wasn't the only footballer in the family.

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His son, our deceased, Trevor, was also a well-known footballer in the area,

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and it transpires that he played locally for one of the semi-professional clubs,

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Bath City, in fact.

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So obviously it was a family trait, being professional footballers.

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To find out more about Trevor's sporting career, Bob hits the road.

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I'm going to pop in to Bath City Football Club

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and try and talk to someone there

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who may know something about Trevor, our deceased.

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Whenever I travel round the country, I always look at football grounds

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whatever city, village, town I'm in.

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If I see floodlights, I'm always, where's that?

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Go on lots of little detours just to drive past the football ground.

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Sad, isn't it?

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I'm here at Twerton Park, the home of Bath City Football Club.

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I've been told by members of Trevor Haydon's family

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that Trevor, at some point, played here during his career

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as a professional footballer, so I'm hoping to meet up with

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someone who might be able to tell me more about Trevor and his life.

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Bob's here to meet Bath City's current chairman, Phil Weaver.

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I've been watching Bath City since about 1955, but Trevor played,

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I think '51 or '52, just for a season, but scored quite a few goals.

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Right, so he was a goal scorer, then?

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-Oh, absolutely, yeah.

-Were they full-time at that point?

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They weren't full-time then, at that time there was

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the maximum wage in the Football League and so players would leave the First Division...

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-now Premier League sides... to come to Bath City.

-Really?

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Yes. They could get a maximum of £25 a week in the League,

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but come down here and get 30 quid, so they did!

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Those higher wages would have been comparable to getting an extra £150 a week today.

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It's a far cry from today's Premiership contracts,

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but professional footballers of the day weren't hard done by,

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earning the equivalent of £800 a week.

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Bearing in mind Trevor and his father were both local lads,

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and obviously played for big teams within the local area,

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were they sort of considered celebrities as such?

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I think in those days

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the full-time player would certainly have been if he played for

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one of the local League teams like Bristol Rovers or Bristol City.

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Somebody like Trevor playing part-time in football,

0:22:590:23:03

he would certainly have been looked up to by his workmates

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and also, of course, by the crowd in front of whom he played.

0:23:070:23:11

-Sure, yeah.

-So we revere them.

-Yes.

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And Trevor is even remembered in Bath City's official club history.

0:23:150:23:21

Looking here, he was signed in 1951 by the manager,

0:23:210:23:26

who was Eddie Hapgood, late of Arsenal,

0:23:260:23:28

and 24 year old Trevor Haydon's hat trick, three goals, against lowly Hastings United,

0:23:280:23:36

"set City for the big time of Barry Town".

0:23:360:23:39

He'd have been popular with the crowd for scoring those goals,

0:23:390:23:43

8,300 came to see that game.

0:23:430:23:46

So yes, we had some good crowds in those days.

0:23:460:23:50

In all honesty, I would love to have had Trevor's playing career.

0:23:520:23:57

You know, he played in front of crowds of 10,000 to 15,000.

0:23:570:24:02

he was paid to do something that he loves,

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obviously revered by the local supporters and such.

0:24:060:24:10

Who wouldn't want that?

0:24:100:24:12

Armed with further information about Trevor's life, it was time to track down the heirs to his £140,000.

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In an ideal world, if we're looking at both

0:24:210:24:24

mother's and father's families, we'd like one sister and one brother

0:24:240:24:30

so it's not a big family to research.

0:24:300:24:33

Unfortunately on Jimmy's side of the family,

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not only was it a large family but it was a rather fragmented family.

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They didn't really keep in contact with each other and they only really

0:24:420:24:46

had sort of sketchy information about their cousins and the names of their aunts and uncles.

0:24:460:24:51

What made it even more confusing was the fact that quite often

0:24:510:24:55

aunts and uncles were known by nicknames.

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One prime example was a gentleman called George Haydon, who was known as Sam.

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Not having correct names made it very difficult to find the right

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birth, death, and marriage records, which are the foundations of creating a family tree.

0:25:080:25:14

It took the team months of record searching and many confusing

0:25:150:25:19

phone calls before they finally hit upon a crucial census document.

0:25:190:25:24

Having found Jimmy's birth certificate, we were able

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to identify some censuses which listed children,

0:25:270:25:30

these would be siblings to Jimmy, brothers and sisters to Jimmy,

0:25:300:25:35

Violet, Herbert, John, Frederick,

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Charles, George, Florence,

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and William, so quite a few.

0:25:440:25:48

The paternal side of the family turned out to be very large.

0:25:490:25:53

Jimmy, Trevor's father, in fact had nine brothers and sisters.

0:25:530:25:58

Having completed our research on the paternal family, we turned our attention to the maternal family.

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Now we had a copy of the birth of the mother of our deceased,

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but we've had a lot of difficulty in finding a marriage between the parents.

0:26:090:26:13

The marriage certificate for Trevor's maternal grandparents would give the researchers

0:26:130:26:18

a timeframe in which to look for any other children they may have had.

0:26:180:26:22

These would be Trevor's aunts and uncles.

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Just on an off chance, I said to the researcher,

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"have a look for the marriage after the birth of the mother of the deceased,"

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and lo and behold, the marriage took place some 15 years later,

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and in the meantime there were about five children.

0:26:380:26:43

In the end, they uncovered Trevor's mother Gladys's seven brothers and sisters.

0:26:430:26:48

Further searches lead them to their descendents, including John Harding,

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a first cousin to Trevor and an heir to part of his £140,000 estate.

0:26:530:26:58

John still lives in the Bristol area.

0:26:580:27:02

Trevor was always very kind to me when I was a small boy

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and Trevor, he played football himself, I understand, to a very good standard.

0:27:060:27:11

He was friendly with quite a lot of professional footballers

0:27:110:27:18

and if there was ever what I would call a big game in Bristol,

0:27:180:27:23

perhaps one of the clubs advanced in the FA Cup,

0:27:230:27:26

Trevor could always manage somehow to get me some very nice stand tickets.

0:27:260:27:30

Ah, right, a useful contact he was.

0:27:300:27:33

He was a typical ex-footballer of his generation.

0:27:330:27:39

He was always very friendly, always seemed very pleased to see me.

0:27:390:27:44

This is an autograph book which Trevor gave me many, many years ago.

0:27:440:27:50

As you can see, it says "Merry Xmas, John, from Trevor".

0:27:500:27:55

This came to me all signed, Bristol City, the great John Atyeo.

0:27:550:28:02

Now we go Bristol Rovers, '64, '65.

0:28:020:28:08

Then we go to the big stuff, Grimsby.

0:28:080:28:11

THEY LAUGH TOGETHER

0:28:110:28:13

He seems very much, I would describe someone, as a man's man.

0:28:130:28:17

Very much so.

0:28:170:28:18

Football, book-keeping, horses, stuff like that.

0:28:180:28:21

Yes. I think even though he wasn't married, there was lady friends.

0:28:210:28:25

I remember he came to the farm on several occasions

0:28:250:28:31

with what I thought were very glamorous ladies, you know...

0:28:310:28:34

as a small boy, I thought, crikey!

0:28:340:28:37

-But obviously he never married.

-He didn't have kids?

0:28:370:28:42

No, no. He never told me, anyway.

0:28:420:28:45

-That's the important thing because obviously if he did have children...

-Yeah.

0:28:450:28:50

they would be entitled before any cousins.

0:28:500:28:54

He sounds like a very colourful character.

0:28:540:28:56

He was a very nice man, Trevor, very kind.

0:28:560:28:59

Like I said, I liked Trevor very, very much.

0:28:590:29:03

-A kindly uncle.

-That's the one, yeah!

0:29:030:29:05

It's been nice to talk to the family and just ask them what they know about the family and Trevor himself.

0:29:070:29:13

Just everything about Trevor himself, his life, his life as a footballer

0:29:140:29:21

and how he may have been a local celebrity, revered by the locals, and what have you.

0:29:210:29:26

It's been fascinating, really, really good.

0:29:260:29:29

But discovering Trevor's colourful life wasn't the only result for Bob.

0:29:310:29:36

After eight months investigating the case,

0:29:360:29:40

he has finally tracked down over 20 heirs to the £140,000 fortune

0:29:400:29:44

of his fellow footballer, Trevor Haydon.

0:29:440:29:47

For every case that is solved, there are still thousands that stubbornly remain a mystery.

0:29:560:30:01

Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

0:30:010:30:09

Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually

0:30:100:30:15

someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

0:30:150:30:19

With estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds,

0:30:200:30:24

the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

0:30:240:30:28

Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve,

0:30:280:30:31

could you be the key? Could you be in line for a payout?

0:30:310:30:35

Malcolm John Thomas died in Bethnal Green, in London, in March 2007.

0:30:370:30:43

Originally from Pontypool in Wales, his mother's maiden name was Griffiths.

0:30:430:30:47

Do these details ring any bells?

0:30:470:30:49

Could you be Malcolm's closest relative and entitled to his unclaimed estate?

0:30:490:30:54

Phyllis Woodcock, born Phyllis Brown, died in Littlehampton,

0:30:540:30:58

West Sussex, in October 2007. Does her name ring any bells?

0:30:580:31:03

Could she be your long lost aunt or cousin?

0:31:030:31:05

Could you be the one person entitled to her estate?

0:31:050:31:09

The hunt to find out who is entitled to these estates can go any number of ways.

0:31:150:31:21

Estates can end up being worth millions of pounds or just a few thousand.

0:31:210:31:26

They might find heirs within hours, or they may never find any.

0:31:260:31:30

The team at Fraser & Fraser often work several cases

0:31:300:31:33

from the Treasury's weekly list, because they just never know how things will pan out.

0:31:330:31:38

Tony Pledger has been looking into a small case,

0:31:420:31:44

there's not much value to it so he's trying to make headway all on his own.

0:31:440:31:50

Would you know if he would have had a niece or anything at all?

0:31:500:31:53

Somebody mentioned there might have been one.

0:31:530:31:55

What areas are we doing for marriages?

0:31:570:32:00

But Grimble, and most of the rest of the office,

0:32:000:32:02

has all the resources to investigate the estate of Brian Lloyd.

0:32:020:32:06

It may be worth as much as £250,000.

0:32:060:32:09

It started out very promising,

0:32:090:32:12

it's got a bit of value to it.

0:32:120:32:14

The trouble is, it looks like it's drying up.

0:32:140:32:18

We can't seem to find any relatives at the moment.

0:32:180:32:22

We're just having some difficulty in latching on to the family,

0:32:220:32:26

so hopefully we'll get a little break in it later on in the day.

0:32:260:32:30

Brian died suddenly at the age of 51,

0:32:300:32:33

leaving a house in the West Midlands and a substantial amount of money,

0:32:330:32:38

but heirs to this fortune are looking thin on the ground.

0:32:380:32:41

Brian's mother was an only child, making the maternal side a dead end,

0:32:410:32:46

but they may have just had a break as they've uncovered

0:32:460:32:49

a possible brother on the father's side, Alfred,

0:32:490:32:52

and at the moment he's looking like the only route to heirs.

0:32:520:32:55

They've gone back over the births, concentrating on Knighton, and you've got to pin things right down.

0:32:550:33:02

There's a possible brother of the father of the deceased, an Alfred, born in 1914,

0:33:020:33:09

so we'll work that one now and see if it is a brother.

0:33:090:33:13

If Alfred is an uncle of Brian Lloyd, his descendants would be

0:33:130:33:18

cousins to Brian and in line for the potentially huge inheritance.

0:33:180:33:23

Finding out if Alfred had children is key.

0:33:230:33:26

I'm looking for an Alfred M Lloyd,

0:33:260:33:28

so Joe and I are both ploughing through looking for his marriage.

0:33:280:33:31

We don't have any ideas with the surname Lloyd, it's all kind of, at the moment, spec.

0:33:320:33:36

We could well end up with a dead job here,

0:33:360:33:40

definitely nothing on mum's side,

0:33:400:33:43

it's going to be 50/50 on dad's side.

0:33:430:33:46

We've still got this Alfred but he's certainly got to have

0:33:460:33:51

at least one kid who's living or descendants from it but...

0:33:510:33:55

TELEPHONE RINGS

0:33:550:33:58

Hello.

0:33:580:33:59

How are we doing with our Alfred?

0:33:590:34:01

It's going to be difficult, isn't it?

0:34:010:34:03

As they search for Alfred's children, they must get

0:34:030:34:07

the certificates to identify exactly who the paternal grandparents are.

0:34:070:34:11

This will confirm if Alfred is indeed an uncle.

0:34:110:34:15

It will also confirm if there are any other aunts and uncles.

0:34:150:34:18

Things aren't looking very hopeful at the moment.

0:34:200:34:24

We'll keep looking until we have all the certificates back and proved or disproved what we found.

0:34:240:34:29

Until that's come in and we finish the research then we'll keep going.

0:34:290:34:33

The fact that it's hard for us, it's hard for everybody else.

0:34:330:34:36

But even before Alfred can be confirmed as an uncle, they find some bad news.

0:34:360:34:43

Well, we've just found the uncle of the deceased,

0:34:430:34:45

he dies aged 22, in Wales. So no issue.

0:34:450:34:50

Do you know what his father's name was?

0:34:500:34:52

Not only has this Alfred died without having children,

0:34:520:34:56

but a call to one of his relatives reveals something else.

0:34:560:35:00

It looks like we're on the wrong tree there. I'm much obliged to you.

0:35:000:35:03

Thank you, bye-bye.

0:35:030:35:05

Wrong family.

0:35:060:35:08

Unfortunately, there is no uncle Alfred in this family and unless

0:35:080:35:12

there are any other any other aunts and uncles, it's not looking good.

0:35:120:35:16

It would be a shame if we can't find somebody.

0:35:160:35:19

It's possible, you know, if the parents of the deceased

0:35:190:35:22

were only children, there is nobody to inherit and it'll go to the Crown.

0:35:220:35:26

That's the way the legislation goes in this country.

0:35:260:35:29

As travelling heir hunter, Paul Matthews, arrives at the Walsall Register Office,

0:35:300:35:35

the case now hinges on what information is contained in the certificates.

0:35:350:35:40

Unfortunately, the last certificate that I've obtained,

0:35:440:35:47

which was purely a hunch by the office that this may be

0:35:470:35:50

the right marriage of the deceased's grandparents.

0:35:500:35:54

Unfortunately by confirming that, the response from the office,

0:35:540:35:58

well, now that marriage is right, they now know that all this dies out.

0:35:580:36:03

Basically, there are no heirs,

0:36:030:36:06

so all the hard work, running round, it's come to no result.

0:36:060:36:11

So it looks as though on this particular occasion that the estates

0:36:110:36:15

are going to be going to the Government, I'm afraid.

0:36:150:36:18

So that's life, you win some, you lose some.

0:36:180:36:20

It's a disappointing end to everyone's efforts.

0:36:220:36:26

Brian Lloyd's potential £250,000 fortune will now be absorbed by the Treasury.

0:36:260:36:34

And for Fraser's, there's also no commission to make.

0:36:340:36:37

Now it's just down to Grimble to close the case down.

0:36:370:36:40

So that birth...

0:36:430:36:45

But there's better news for Tony.

0:36:450:36:48

Against all the odds, he's single-handedly making great progress on the Wemyss' job.

0:36:480:36:53

It's a far less valuable case but if Tony can solve it easily,

0:36:530:36:57

it's worth Fraser's investigating it.

0:36:570:37:00

Russell Wemyss died in 2008 aged 81,

0:37:010:37:03

after having lived for most of his life in a council property on Tyneside.

0:37:030:37:10

Russell was a pure gentleman.

0:37:100:37:11

Old-fashioned type of gentleman what you don't see these days.

0:37:110:37:15

He was sound.

0:37:150:37:17

We used to talk about the garden, talk about the weather

0:37:170:37:20

and what we're planting, and what we're doing.

0:37:200:37:23

I miss looking for him in a morning.

0:37:230:37:26

He used to yell out, "Is he up?"

0:37:260:37:29

He was great.

0:37:290:37:31

Whilst he may not have left a large estate, the chance of finding heirs is good.

0:37:310:37:37

It's expanded out pretty quickly. It is going to be near kin

0:37:370:37:40

so we more than likely will carry it to a conclusion.

0:37:400:37:43

The reason I think it's going to be near kin is because the tree

0:37:430:37:46

which Amy's writing out has got several names on it already.

0:37:460:37:51

Earlier in the day, Tony got a neighbour to ask a potential heir

0:37:510:37:55

to contact him, and Maureen has just phoned back.

0:37:550:37:58

So your granny, Thomasina, would have had a sister, I think, Ellen Shaw Ayre,

0:37:580:38:03

I'm assuming, therefore, that your mother had several brothers and sisters.

0:38:030:38:08

They've all died now, yeah, but, you see, the problem is that we could obviously establish

0:38:090:38:14

that you might be a blood relative of the deceased but whether or not

0:38:140:38:18

there are other people of a nearer degree that come into it, you see what I mean.

0:38:180:38:23

It turns out that Maureen is related to Russell as a first cousin once removed,

0:38:230:38:27

but she may not turn out to be an heir if Tony finds closer kin, such as nephews and nieces.

0:38:270:38:34

Maureen does, however, know lots of family information.

0:38:340:38:37

Russell was quite jovial really, so was his brothers.

0:38:370:38:43

They were very good friends with my grandda and they used to drink

0:38:430:38:48

in the same pub together and go on the day trips together,

0:38:480:38:54

and they were very close. Russell and his brothers were very close.

0:38:540:38:59

Maureen was a bridesmaid at Russell's sister, Betty's wedding,

0:38:590:39:03

but as they got older, the two families saw each other less and less.

0:39:030:39:08

It was strange both called Wemyss, basically because Wemyss was a very uncommon name, you know.

0:39:080:39:16

And, of course, Auntie Nelly had the four boys and one girl,

0:39:160:39:20

and me Nana had...oh,

0:39:200:39:25

three boys and three girls.

0:39:250:39:30

No, and he wasn't married either? No, but we're getting a good picture now.

0:39:300:39:34

Finding Maureen has been a godsend for Tony.

0:39:340:39:37

She's been able to confirm who out of the potential

0:39:370:39:40

15 brothers and sisters are, in fact, Russell's siblings.

0:39:400:39:44

She's also confirmed that as well as the sister who died as an infant,

0:39:440:39:49

incredibly, all the other brothers remained bachelors and died without children.

0:39:490:39:54

Russell's sister, Betty, did however have a son and two daughters.

0:39:540:39:59

As nephews and nieces, they take inheritance priority over Maureen and other sole heirs.

0:39:590:40:04

Hello, Mr Clark. This is Tony Pledger, from Fraser & Fraser, the probate researchers in London.

0:40:040:40:09

Despite working on the tightest of budgets, Tony has finally cracked the case of Russell Wemyss.

0:40:090:40:16

He's found the nephew and two nieces who will be the sole heirs to his estate.

0:40:160:40:21

Still living in the Tyneside area,

0:40:210:40:25

Alan Clark is the son of Russell's sister, Betty, who died over 40 years ago.

0:40:250:40:30

The last time I saw Russell was just after my mother died.

0:40:300:40:36

I went to stop with the brothers, me uncles,

0:40:360:40:41

and I was there for about three or four weeks, and then I just went my own way.

0:40:410:40:47

'65, '66. My mother died '65, so I would say about '66.

0:40:470:40:52

That was the last time I seen him.

0:40:520:40:54

It was Alan's mother and Russell's sister, Betty,

0:40:550:40:58

who seem to be the link holding the Wemyss family together.

0:40:580:41:01

When she died at the age of just 42, much of the family lost contact.

0:41:010:41:07

I just would like to know a bit more about the family on her side, you know, because it is a big family.

0:41:070:41:14

It's surprising. I was surprised how big it probably will be. It might be even bigger than what I think.

0:41:140:41:20

As one of just three heirs, Alan and his two sisters, Joyce and Joan,

0:41:200:41:25

will share in Russell's estate, which turns out to be around £14,000.

0:41:250:41:30

It's nice if something could be left, but I'm not really interested.

0:41:300:41:35

I'm more interested in the family name and hopefully we're going to find more out about it.

0:41:350:41:40

I am honestly, the money side of it, not interested at all.

0:41:400:41:44

Buried at the family plot in South Shields cemetery, Alan goes to pay his respects to his Uncle Russell.

0:41:470:41:52

He's with the rest of his family, I think, I hope.

0:41:540:41:58

I know his mam and dad's buried here.

0:41:580:42:00

It's a lovely spot where he lies.

0:42:020:42:04

It's very emotional here,

0:42:070:42:09

knowing that me Mam's just further up from Russell.

0:42:090:42:13

Very emotional.

0:42:130:42:14

I won't see me Mam later.

0:42:160:42:18

Been an interesting day, actually.

0:42:200:42:24

Peaceful. Very nice.

0:42:240:42:25

What I'd like to do is put a cross or something

0:42:270:42:31

on Russell's and me Mam's grave, just to say that they're there,

0:42:310:42:37

As you see, it's just a hole in the ground at the moment.

0:42:370:42:41

It'd be nice to give them something nice that people can look and say,

0:42:410:42:45

"there's a Wemyss and a Clark." It'd be nice.

0:42:450:42:49

If you would like to find out more about how to build a family tree,

0:42:550:42:59

go to bbc.co.uk

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