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Every year, thousands of people die with no will and with no apparent relatives.

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Tracking down their long-lost families is a job for the heir hunters.

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On today's programme,

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the heir hunters are faced with the emotional story of a family that loses everything.

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To have all those memories disappear

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so suddenly is just heartbreaking.

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And in the quest for heirs, a case takes the hunt across the sea

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to Canada and one of the worst shipping disasters of the 20th century.

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The impact was so quick that most people just drowned in their cabins basically.

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I mean, that was the reality of it.

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Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury.

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Could you have thousands of pounds heading your way?

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Less than one in three people in the UK make a will.

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For those who don't, if no obvious relatives are found, their money goes straight to the Government.

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Last year, a staggering £18 million went to the Treasury in unclaimed estates.

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That's where the heir hunters step in.

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Over 30 companies make it their business to track down the rightful heirs to this money.

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Last year alone, they claimed back over £6.5 million.

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Fraser and Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain.

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It's run by Andrew, Charles and Neil Fraser.

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One of the areas I enjoy is the sort of mystery element of it.

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And it's being able to deal with that and bring it to a successful conclusion.

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That's one of the thrills of the job really.

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They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs.

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Since they began over 30 years ago, they've reunited over 50,000 heirs

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with the whopping sum of over £100 million.

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It's Thursday, the day the Government's list of unclaimed estates is published

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and the team are scouring through the potential cases.

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That's a good possibility.

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As the values of the estates are not known,

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the first job for the heir hunters is to identify those where a property is involved.

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-Well, it's on the border of Wales.

-Absolutely.

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Because that's usually a good indication that an estate will be worth a sizable amount of money.

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One case they've chosen is that of Beryl Evans, whose maiden name was Davies.

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After a short spell in hospital,

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she died on the 27th September 2008 in Shrewsbury, on the Welsh borders.

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She left a bungalow and a plot of land estimated to be worth around £100,000,

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making it a potentially profitable case for the heir hunters to pursue.

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Born in 1927, Beryl had lived in the area all her life

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and had worked as a nurse at the local Greenfields Hospital.

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She married Frank Evans, a wood machinist, in 1949.

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They never had children, but had been happily married until his death in 2000.

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Frank's sister, Irene, was a great friend of Beryl's.

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Beryl was a very kind person.

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She would help anyone and was never disagreeable.

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She was...

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Well, we were more like sisters than sister-in-laws.

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To see Beryl ill so suddenly...

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It was really...

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heartbreaking really to see such a well person

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just go like that.

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Beryl and Frank had lived first in the cottages

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and then in the bungalow on the land that had been in his family for hundreds of years.

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The cottages were of very sentimental value to me.

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They were where I was born and all my happy childhood was there.

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My whole lifetime of memories are there

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and to have all those memories disappear

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so suddenly is just heartbreaking.

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If Beryl had left a will, the property and land could have stayed in the Evans family.

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Sadly, she didn't and now legally only blood relations can inherit, which Irene is not.

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The researchers in the office make a start on tracking down Beryl's family.

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There's going to be a hell of a lot of Davies to Evans.

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It's not the best search.

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Davies and Evans are very common names, especially on the Welsh borders,

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and there could be thousands of results, which would take the team weeks to sort through.

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If we had better names, we would be able to do the search from her maiden name to her married name

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and we'd get the name from her marriage.

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I think if we looked for a marriage between Evans and Davies,

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we probably would get 10,000 of them, so it's not something we can do.

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Anyone done a Davies to Davies marriage search in Oswestry?

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The first search produced 40-odd births.

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David Pacifico, Frasers' longest-serving case manager is heading up the Evans job.

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Right, can you get somebody to do a marriage search?

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Davies to Davies, Oswestry.

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Despite his 37 years of heir hunting experience, he's struggling to get this case moving.

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To make the difference, to help us, we need the birth of the deceased to find out who are the parents.

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We can then kill them off and go from there.

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And if she has got close kin, then we'll hopefully find it.

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The birth certificate will reveal Beryl's place of birth

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and the names of her mother and father,

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giving the researchers a place to start in hunting for living family.

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But as they go to order the all-important certificates,

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the team face a frustrating setback with the register office.

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Unbelievable! Well, this is, to me, it's just typical of this country.

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We're waiting to get certificates because we can't go into a register office and pick 'em up.

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It's all done through a call centre now

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and we've had to pay way, way over the odds to actually get them back today.

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To find living heirs,

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the researchers need to create an accurate family tree, working through each generation.

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The certificates provide crucial names, dates and locations,

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which are the clues the heir hunters rely on to build a tree and find the right family.

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They are the cornerstone of heir hunting. Without them, their job is almost impossible.

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It is very much up in the air.

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It's because you can't walk into a register office Shropshire

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and pick up a certificate. Daft, absolutely daft.

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By the time we get the births...

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We're not going to get that until this afternoon.

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There's no register office to get it.

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This crucial avenue of research is closed off, but the team must do something

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or they could lose this case to the competition. It's time for the investigation to change tack.

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This is a case that can be solved by talking to people.

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It's not going to be solved by waiting for a certificate.

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The team makes speculative calls to people in the Shrewsbury area with the name Evans.

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Sorry to trouble you. Would that be Beryl Evans?

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-Ah! Erm, in that case I actually think I've got the wrong number.

-There's nothing to worry about.

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Erm, we're just researching into this estate, so...

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They're hoping to speak to someone who may know of the deceased.

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Right, OK. So there's people called Davies living in Sweeney Mountain, in Gobowen.

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OK. Well, obviously, what I'll have to do is try to get hold of Irene

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in Sweeney Mountain and see where we go from there.

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OK, thanks. Bye.

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I've just spoken to a neighbour who has told me that she's left a bungalow and some ground.

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And the neighbour, who coincidentally was called Evans, but I'm sure there's no relation,

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seems to be of the impression that she might have had some brothers

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who have children who live, in theory, not far from Beryl.

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What would have taken hours of database research has been done with a few well-placed phone calls.

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They've got a lead on some family information.

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Now they need someone on the ground who can take up the hunt.

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Frasers have a network of travelling heir hunters spanning the length and breadth of the country.

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They go wherever the hunt takes them, sniffing out clues and following leads.

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They pick up records, talk to those who knew the deceased

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and make door to door enquiries, all in the race to find and sign up heirs.

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Ex-police sergeant Paul Matthews is their Midlands-based heir hunter

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and is closest the Shropshire/Wales border.

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There's only about six houses in that sort of area where she lived.

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'One of the people hopefully you're gonna see would be a Doreen Evans.

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'It's been suggested that she had brothers and they in turn had sons,

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'living in a place called Sweeney Mountain.'

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But go to that place and

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'knock on all the doors if necessary.'

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Paul's off to the Shropshire villages on the border of Wales,

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where research often involves a more direct approach.

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The office have made some enquiries now from the address. They've spoken to somebody in the area.

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It looks as though it's a working case and hopefully we can find some relatives within a short time.

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You do get some good information by visiting addresses where they used to live.

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It is still worthwhile going and knocking on the door,

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cos sometimes you do get some good breakthroughs from doing that.

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As Paul heads off to do his enquiries, the office have narrowed down their searches

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and have come across something intriguing.

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We could have a bit of a problem because it's possible she might be born illegitimate.

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But only because the best birth that we've got has the same maiden name as...

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The mother's maiden name was the same as the name she was born under, but could be a Davies married a Davies.

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Can't rule anything out, you know.

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The heir hunters know from experience that when a child takes their mother's maiden name

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this can mean there's no registered father, making them illegitimate.

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But as they can't actually confirm any of the information with their records,

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they can't move the case forward.

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All hopes now rest with Paul Matthews.

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He's meeting Doreen Evans, who Tony Pledger called earlier in the day.

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She lives in the area and may be able to give Paul some clues.

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What do you know about Beryl, who passed away? Do you know who she was married to?

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Frank, Frank Evans, yes.

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Did Beryl ever have visitors?

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-Only Lindup, her second name was, from up Sweeney Mountain.

-Whereabouts is that?

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By the little cottages at the end of the road, very near.

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And you turn up there to Sweeney Mountain.

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If Beryl had a regular visitor, they probably knew her well

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and could be key to unlocking some family information.

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The hunt takes Paul towards Sweeney Mountain, where Beryl last lived.

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It's always helpful to speak to someone who's in the area.

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They seem to think there's nephews up in Sweeney Mountain,

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but, er... I don't know where we are.

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Down the small country lanes, the combination of Doreen's directions

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and Paul's hi-tech gadgets have left him scratching his head.

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I don't know, cos there's areas up there as well.

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God knows!

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HE LAUGHS

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GPS, as usual, put me in the middle of a field.

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Whilst Paul goes astray on the Welsh borders,

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back in the office, Fran has had a breakthrough with the Shropshire Records Office call centre.

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The heir hunters can't get their hands on the certificates, but she's found out what's written on them

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and it confirms Dave's suspicions about Beryl's birth.

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-Margaret is the mother. No father.

-No. It's Margaret Davies, Treflach.

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That's it. It ties in.

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Margaret Davies of Treflach.

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-Roger.

-She was born in Morda House.

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-Morda is right in that right area.

-It ties up.

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The information reveals that Beryl's registered place of birth was Morda House,

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which was the local workhouse.

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Established in 1792, it was built to house 300 people,

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including the old, the infirm, the orphaned and unmarried girls who fell pregnant,

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such as Margaret Davies, Beryl's mother.

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Workhouse regimes were harsh and conditions spartan.

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But it was at least a place of food and shelter for the local poor.

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The Morda workhouse eventually became Greenfields Hospital,

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the place Beryl went on to work at all her life as a nurse.

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But the heir hunters don't know anything about Beryl's family.

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Thankfully, Paul has finally found his way to the village where she lived for 40 years.

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Did you know the lady who passed away?

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He's hoping to tap into the local grapevine for information.

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She was a widow, very independent, quite a hardy old stick.

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The sister-in-law. Who was the sister-in-law married to? Any idea?

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The sister-in-law was her deceased husband's sister.

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-So that's a non-blood relative then I'm afraid.

-Is it. Yeah.

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She helped Beryl a lot and used to have her round to lunch.

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Do you know anything at all about Beryl's...? Did she have brothers and sisters?

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Well, apparently, there may be some long-lost relatives in Ireland, who have probably died by now.

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They didn't come to the funeral.

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They don't know where they are.

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I think the sister's trying to trace them. Irene will tell you far more about it than I can.

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-OK.

-She's known her for years. I've been here a year.

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-OK. Any idea how long Beryl had lived here for?

-Oh, 40 years or so.

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They had the bungalow built.

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Yeah, planted those trees across there.

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-Is that the bungalow there?

-Yeah. And that enormous garden round it.

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It doesn't look modern.

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It's a mean little bungalow, but the plot is wonderful.

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Paul's discovered that Beryl's regular visitor was her sister-in-law,

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Irene, who seems to be the person who knew her best.

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I'm told she's very good for her age, so hopefully

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she can tell us a little bit more about Beryl.

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Will Irene, the sister of Beryl's husband, Frank, give them the breakthrough they're looking for?

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Do you know who Beryl's mum was?

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Margaret Davies, I think her name was.

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Do you know if she had any brothers or sisters?

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Yes, she had at least one... Two sisters, I think.

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Were they Oswestry as well?

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Morda, by Oswestry.

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-So it's Morda, Oswestry?

-Yeah.

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Do you know if Annie had children?

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She had about four, I think.

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Any idea of their names?

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Dennis.

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-Dennis, yeah.

-Mary.

-Yeah.

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Violet.

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Yeah.

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And, er... Oh, there was another one.

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I forget his name.

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It's a male though, yeah?

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-A male, yes.

-A son, yeah?

-Yeah.

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Irene has confirmed that Beryl did have a sister, Betty,

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who may be deceased.

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She's also confirmed that Beryl's mother, Margaret Davies, had two sisters.

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Mary died without living children, so the family line comes to a dead end.

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But Margaret's other sister, Sarah "Annie", did have children who could be heirs.

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But in the hunt to track them down, the team are about to uncover something

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that could throw a real spanner in the works.

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-God!

-I don't know. Have we fallen down here?

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-I'm a bit concerned now.

-Right, OK.

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Tracing family members from very little information is the tough part of heir hunting.

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But as one of the oldest probate companies in the UK, established almost 90 years ago,

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Hoopers have a wealth of experience in tracking down missing beneficiaries

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when all other trails have gone cold.

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Could I get someone to look for a death for me? Anna?

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Mike Tringham, chairman of the company,

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started out as a junior researcher and has spent 35 years solving difficult cases.

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Yeah, that's him.

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Sometimes we come across a case which just really looks unsolvable

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and those cases get the juices flowing.

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And cases don't come much tougher than the case of Ernest Phythian, who died in 2003.

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Although the unusual name sounds like it should be an easy hunt,

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for experienced heir hunters it was his name that almost was Mike and Hoopers' undoing.

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We were given the death certificate for Charles Ernest Phythian.

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Unusual name in itself.

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If that had been his original name, our job, possibly, would have been a lot easier.

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But the fact was, he adopted that name by change of name back in 1953

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and, in fact, he was born as Ernest McLoughlin and we know that because that's stated in the deed poll.

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Ernest Phythian died at the Moss View Nursery Home in Toxteth, in Liverpool, aged 94.

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Born in 1909, Ernest had been fostered by the Phythian family,

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eventually taking their name as his own.

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Married to his childhood sweetheart, Edna, in 1937, they had 50 years of marriage before she died.

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Ernest and Edna hadn't had any children and no other family members related to Ernest could be found.

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He left no will, but did leave an estate worth £50,000,

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so it was a valuable case for Mike to pursue, even if at first glance it looked unsolvable.

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He was fostered.

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He was fostered by the Phythian family and so he wasn't probably brought up by his parents

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at any stage in his life, or at least not since his infancy.

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So we're already getting a vague idea or vague picture of what might have occurred

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around the time of the deceased's birth.

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As Ernest had never been legally adopted by the Phythians,

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it was his biological parents that Mike needed to look into.

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Mike knew from his birth certificate that Ernest's father was Michael McLoughlin

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and his mother, Edith Greenfield.

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Mike started to search on the only information he had, their names.

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We discovered that there were at least 12 Michael McLoughlins born every year,

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so unfortunately on this rare occasion we had to draw a line under our research

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and that's what decided us to turn our attention to the mother's side.

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The researchers needed to find Edith Greenfield, who would have been of childbearing age in 1909.

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They found over 50.

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That was too many to research, so we tried to narrow it down to the north-west of England,

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covering a number of counties, but the numbers were still too many.

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There were in excess of 20 in Lancashire.

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Right, looking for Greenfield.

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Mike's years of heir hunting experience led him to now follow a hunch.

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One of the 20 caught his attention because she had so little documentation.

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There seemed to be no marriage record for her, no death record for her,

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no trace whatsoever for her

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and that immediately raised my suspicions about this particular Edith.

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So she immediately became a bit of a mystery woman.

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So that is when we decided to target her and her family.

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Mike didn't know whether this was the right Edith,

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but working totally speculatively, he found details of her family from the Census.

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She was born in 1882 in Toxteth Park in Liverpool,

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the same place Ernest had been born.

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John and Ruth Greenfield were her parents and she had four sisters,

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Amy, Beatrice, Adelaide and Jane.

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And a call to one of their descendants turned up more than Mike could have hoped for.

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What really struck me...

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you know, that moment where you almost fall off your chair...

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was when she mentioned Canada and almost in passing

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she'd mentioned that she thought her mother had relatives who went to Canada.

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I began to think to myself,

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"Well, just supposing, just what if this Edith Greenfield

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"decided that she'd had enough of life in Liverpool,

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"things hadn't been going very well,

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"she parcelled off her new-born child to foster parents, or whatever,

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"and decided to make a new life for herself in Canada?"

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During the 19th century, the Liverpool docks emerged

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as the main emigrant port from Europe to the New World, as it was then known.

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As the steamships got bigger and were able to take more passengers, turn of the century Liverpool

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saw thousands of people coming through the port.

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What happened very commonly is one group of people

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would come out from one area of one community

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and they would write back

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and that would build up a momentum for sort of big swaths

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of communities from areas in places right across Europe to join them.

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So you got communities settling in similar areas in North America also.

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So you had this sort of traffic going across.

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But also you had economic conditions in Britain...

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I mean, you had an urban centre like somewhere like Liverpool, which was overcrowded,

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there was masses of poverty, so on a personal level it was very much a personal choice to improve

0:23:260:23:32

one's opportunities in life, just like anybody emigrating today would probably make similar decisions.

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For Edith, as a single, unmarried mother, emigration may well have been her chance for a better life.

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Coming from somewhere like Toxteth she would have been very conscious

0:23:430:23:47

of a lot of people moving through the port who were doing the same thing, so to migrate to another

0:23:470:23:53

country, to North America, perhaps wouldn't have been such a big deal.

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If Edith Greenfield had emigrated to Canada, leaving the young Ernest in the UK,

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the researchers would need the help of their overseas agent to take up the hunt.

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I contacted our office in Toronto and got our man,

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Malcolm, on the case and told him to get stuck into it.

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Mike then started checking Liverpool emigration records,

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trying to glean any information he could about Edith's family.

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It turned out that between 1909 and 1914,

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Edith and two of her sisters, Amy and Jane, emigrated to Canada,

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leaving the other two sisters in Liverpool.

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He also discovered that their mother, Ruth Greenfield, Ernest's grandmother,

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had been caught up in one of the great shipping disasters of the 20th century.

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The Empress of Ireland was built in 1906 by Canadian Pacific to target the emigrant trade.

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It would have taken around the region of 1,500 passengers and crew.

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You know, you would have had in the region of between 700 and 800 third-class passengers

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and then less second-class and then less again first-class

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and then maybe in the region of between 400 and 500 crew members.

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The Empress of Ireland was leaving Canada, leaving Quebec,

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in sort of the late afternoon on May 29th in 1914. Regular voyage.

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There wasn't anything unusual.

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But what happened was, when it was travelling along the Saint Lawrence River,

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some patchy fog began to descend.

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By, sort of, the early hours of the morning, the fog had become very,

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very thick indeed, so the captain,

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Captain Kendall, made to decision to stop the ship for safety reasons.

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But another ship was on the river and through the dense fog, it didn't see the Empress of Ireland.

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The Storstad, a Norwegian collier, struck the liner midship

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on the starboard side and inflicted fatal damage.

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The engine room flooded, so the watertight doors couldn't be operated

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and it just... I mean, the damage was so bad that the ship literally listed and sank within 15 minutes.

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So it was an horrific scenario.

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The bulk of people were fast asleep. They didn't know what was happening

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and, of course, the impact was so quick that there was no response time.

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I think they managed to get four lifeboats out, but most people just drowned in their cabins, basically.

0:26:340:26:41

I mean, that was the reality of it.

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And there were over 1,000 fatalities.

0:26:430:26:47

It was a huge, huge tragedy. I mean, on the scale of Titanic.

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Edith's mother, Ruth, a member of the Salvation Army, was on board, bound for England.

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There were about 200 Salvation Army members.

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Possibly Ruth Greenfield was one of these.

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150 of them perished out of the 200, in the region of,

0:27:060:27:11

and they were all coming over for an international conference in the UK.

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So it was quite possible that Ruth was travelling for that purpose.

0:27:150:27:19

After discovering the tragic death of Ruth Greenfield on the Empress of Ireland,

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the Canadian team then managed to find a record of her daughter, Edith.

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Malcolm came up with the goods.

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He discovered a marriage certificate for an Edith Greenfield, which fitted the bill.

0:27:350:27:42

This marriage to an Edward Lane was key.

0:27:420:27:45

It meant Ernest's mother, the elusive Edith,

0:27:450:27:48

finally reappeared in official records and her trail could be picked up again.

0:27:480:27:53

Mike then found out that she'd had a son, John, but was this actually Ernest's mother, Edith?

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And so, was her son, John, really related to Ernest Phythian, born Ernest McLoughlin?

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Mike had been working from hunches all along and still didn't know for sure.

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But looking into John's records, he saw a name that just jumped off the page.

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He was known as John McLoughlin Lane

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and you can imagine our delight when we discovered

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this piece of information, because all the pieces fell into place.

0:28:250:28:29

It vindicated all the work and effort we'd put in.

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McLoughlin was the name that tied them together

0:28:340:28:38

and further investigations confirmed that John was Edith's illegitimate son

0:28:380:28:42

and therefore a half-brother to Ernest.

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In fact, with her husband, Edward Lane, Edith had three further daughters, Marjorie, Enid and Alma.

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The children of these half-brothers and sisters to Ernest would go on to inherit his £50,000 estate.

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In total, there were ten half-nephews and nieces.

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Sheila Milne was a relative Mike found in the UK.

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Although not an heir to Ernest's money, what she gained from him was worth far more to her.

0:29:080:29:15

My parents died when I was in my early 20s,

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so it was a feeling of I was pretty much on my own as far as relations were concerned.

0:29:190:29:24

And then going through all this experience and learning about Ernest

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and learning about my great-aunts and the rest of the family,

0:29:280:29:33

it's been a wonderful feeling.

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It's just I now have more family out there.

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And I would like to get in touch with them.

0:29:380:29:43

Through Mike, Sheila's wish had been granted.

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For the first time in their lives, and through the wonders of modern technology,

0:29:450:29:50

Sheila is about to be reunited with her second cousin, Maureen Boychuck, in Canada.

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-Maureen?

-Hi, you!

-How are you?

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It's fantastic to speak to you.

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Oh, yes. Same to you.

0:30:020:30:04

I've already got the tears in my eyes.

0:30:040:30:07

Don't start. You'll start me off.

0:30:070:30:10

Oh, what a day! I thought this would never happen.

0:30:120:30:17

It's wonderful.

0:30:180:30:20

It's very emotional. You've got to stop crying.

0:30:200:30:23

My emotion's very weird.

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I've grown up in foster homes.

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I just see my brothers and and my...

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I never knew there was an extended family like there is now. You know...

0:30:310:30:37

It's...

0:30:380:30:40

Ah...

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Well, Ernest's death has actually brought a lot of family back together and reunited a family, which is nice.

0:30:460:30:54

It's a shame that we never got to meet him.

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I'm grateful to Ernest that he didn't make a will.

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He's just made my life so much richer.

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For every case that is solved, there are still those that stubbornly remain a mystery.

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Over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope

0:31:220:31:25

that someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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With estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds,

0:31:300:31:35

the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

0:31:350:31:38

Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve.

0:31:380:31:43

Could you be the key? Could you be in line for a payout?

0:31:430:31:46

Maria Gomez Lopez, a spinster from Lewisham in London, passed away back in May 2008.

0:31:480:31:53

So far her relatives have proved elusive.

0:31:530:31:57

Is this a name you remember from your family?

0:31:570:32:00

Morwynna Harding, born Morwynna Tucker, died in Torrington in Devon in May 2008.

0:32:020:32:09

97 years old, she outlived her husband, Edgar, and daughter, Ruby.

0:32:090:32:14

Could she be a distant relative?

0:32:140:32:16

Could you be in line for a payout?

0:32:160:32:19

Finding out just who is entitled to a payout from an estate

0:32:240:32:28

where no will has been left can be a very difficult process and not just for the heir hunters.

0:32:280:32:34

The team at Fraser and Fraser have been looking into the case of Beryl Evans,

0:32:340:32:37

since it appeared on the Treasury's list early this morning.

0:32:370:32:41

-The first search produced 40-odd births.

-What about marriages?

0:32:410:32:46

After spending the day knocking on doors of friends and neighbours in Shropshire...

0:32:480:32:52

Did you know the lady who passed away at all?

0:32:520:32:54

Travelling heir hunter, Paul Matthews found Irene Lindup,

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the sister of Beryl's deceased husband, Frank.

0:32:570:33:00

Did Beryl have any brothers or sisters?

0:33:000:33:03

She had one sister.

0:33:030:33:05

It turns out that Beryl's bungalow and land, which formed the bulk of the estimated £100,000 estate,

0:33:050:33:11

had been in Frank and Irene's family for generations.

0:33:110:33:16

Irene was even born in the cottages, which were there before the bungalow.

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On Frank's death, the land and property

0:33:200:33:23

passed over to his wife, Beryl, changing the family ownership.

0:33:230:33:26

I've had the key to Beryl's bungalow

0:33:260:33:30

till this week. My brother had the bungalow built,

0:33:300:33:37

but it's pointless me hanging on to the key when it's nothing more to do with me.

0:33:370:33:44

This is the end of it for me.

0:33:440:33:49

There's nothing more for me to go round for now.

0:33:490:33:55

As Beryl sadly left no will, the property won't be staying in Irene's family.

0:33:550:34:00

It and any other money in the estate can now only be inherited by the Treasury or blood relatives,

0:34:000:34:06

Beryl's distant family that she had never actually been in contact with.

0:34:060:34:12

The house was built by her brother, so I think probably the moral thing

0:34:120:34:17

to happen was for it to go to Irene,

0:34:170:34:20

but that's not the way it's going to happen because Irene's not a blood relative.

0:34:200:34:24

So, in the eyes of the law, it goes to the bloodline.

0:34:240:34:28

So it's what happens when people don't make wills

0:34:280:34:31

and the estate doesn't go to where they want it to go to,

0:34:310:34:34

but there you go. We can't change that.

0:34:340:34:36

OK, thanks, Paul.

0:34:360:34:38

Bye.

0:34:380:34:40

There was a sister that married somebody called Roberts and had several children.

0:34:410:34:45

We've got some information.

0:34:450:34:47

Irene has however provided the team with the key family information that will finally move the case forward.

0:34:470:34:54

This other sister married a Roberts...

0:34:540:34:56

and had four children. Dennis.

0:34:570:35:01

Mary, who went off to Liverpool. Violet, who married a Bill Evans, that was...

0:35:010:35:07

and another male.

0:35:070:35:09

So we've got a Davies to a Roberts.

0:35:090:35:12

According to the bloodline, the first entitled to inherit would be Beryl's sister, the elusive Betty.

0:35:120:35:19

But tracking her down is not looking hopeful.

0:35:190:35:23

We can't at the moment identify her birth or anything else.

0:35:230:35:26

I'm told that she died in Ireland.

0:35:260:35:28

It may be something we may never be able to really...

0:35:280:35:32

But what we have got is potentially cousins

0:35:320:35:35

and although there may someone closer outstanding,

0:35:350:35:37

if we can't get anywhere on that, we've got to go to cousins.

0:35:370:35:41

Census searches on the aunts are the next step.

0:35:430:35:48

The Census told us that Margaret Ellen had two sisters,

0:35:480:35:54

a Mary M and a Sarah E

0:35:540:35:56

and that her father was called William and her mum was an "E. A.",

0:35:560:36:04

which we've now found out is an Elizabeth Anne.

0:36:040:36:07

Beryl's mother Margaret Davies did have two sisters.

0:36:070:36:12

One, Mary, died without living children.

0:36:120:36:15

But the other, Sarah "Annie", known just as Annie, looks like she may have living family.

0:36:150:36:20

Let's see if we can marry them up and find an address for one of them.

0:36:200:36:25

One of Annie's children, Dennis Roberts, is coming up on the searches.

0:36:250:36:29

He would be a first cousin to Beryl.

0:36:290:36:31

Trouble is, there's not one, but two in the area.

0:36:310:36:35

'Your destination is ahead.'

0:36:350:36:38

Paul's got a 50-50 chance of picking the right one.

0:36:380:36:42

Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:36:420:36:43

Right, well, we've got two addresses in Oswestry, both of Dennis Roberts.

0:36:470:36:52

Erm, the one we've tried, there's no reply on the phone, so we went round to pop round

0:36:520:36:56

the other one, who's right on age, but unfortunately it's the wrong one.

0:36:560:37:00

So it's the other Dennis Roberts in Oswestry that we've got to go and sort out. So sod's law, innit?

0:37:000:37:05

Half a mile to the next Dennis Roberts.

0:37:090:37:14

Will the real Dennis Roberts please stand up?

0:37:140:37:17

Now the team have good, confirmed, family information,

0:37:170:37:21

they can move quickly on investigating the other cousins.

0:37:210:37:25

-Violet May...

-Yeah.

0:37:250:37:26

Born 15th September '24 in Sweeney Road.

0:37:260:37:31

Sweeney as in Sweeney Mountain, yeah?

0:37:310:37:34

-It's a place.

-Yeah, Oswestry.

-Yeah.

0:37:340:37:36

Violet May Evans, Dennis's sister and a cousin of Beryl's, is found to be deceased.

0:37:360:37:43

But the team have just located her will and her estate has been left

0:37:430:37:47

to her children, John and Susan, who it appears are still in the area.

0:37:470:37:52

That's two first cousins, once removed of the deceased, erm,

0:37:520:37:58

actually living, I think,

0:37:580:38:00

on one of the roads which is on the corner of the first cousin we had, of Dennis.

0:38:000:38:07

So the two children of that Evans one, we have up to date addresses and phone numbers for them.

0:38:070:38:12

And it sort of makes that Dennis address, which we sent Paul round to earlier,

0:38:120:38:18

it makes that stronger because of the closeness of the family.

0:38:180:38:21

Quite often we find that they're living on neighbouring roads and stuff. So that's all good.

0:38:210:38:27

Dave contacts one of them, John Evans, to break the news.

0:38:270:38:31

Mr Evans, we're looking into an estate going back through the Davies side of the family.

0:38:310:38:36

We're trying to track down the blood relations, to which your mother,

0:38:360:38:40

had she still been alive, we believe would have been a potential beneficiary.

0:38:400:38:44

But he gets some unexpected news of his own.

0:38:440:38:46

Morris? Morris Davies?

0:38:490:38:52

How was he...? How did?

0:38:530:38:56

Erm, we don't know about Morris.

0:38:560:39:00

So this would be your grandmother's sister?

0:39:000:39:03

Right.

0:39:050:39:06

Ah, this is... Can I just say,

0:39:090:39:11

you remember his grandmother having a sister called Alice who married a Mr Morris?

0:39:110:39:16

-Is the only...

-Oh, God!

-I don't know. Have we fallen down here?

0:39:160:39:19

-I'm a bit concerned now.

-Right, OK.

0:39:190:39:21

It's almost the end of the day and just as Dave was thinking they had it all sewn up...

0:39:240:39:28

Right, let's go down to see the troops.

0:39:280:39:30

He's found out there could be a whole other branch to the family.

0:39:300:39:34

Alice Davies, another of Beryl's aunts, married a Llewellyn Morris and they had children.

0:39:350:39:41

It seems there are even more heirs to track down.

0:39:410:39:45

If John Evans is right, that is another branch we didn't know about.

0:39:450:39:49

We need more information about this Alice Davies who married Morris.

0:39:490:39:54

And it may well be that Dennis or Mary will have more information, you know.

0:39:540:40:00

We're getting there.

0:40:000:40:01

And they may even know more about the deceased and her so-called sister.

0:40:010:40:06

That would be even...something else.

0:40:060:40:08

Paul Matthews has been on the go for almost 12 hours and he's only now

0:40:100:40:15

about to see his first heirs and hopefully sign them up.

0:40:150:40:19

And your date of birth? You can't lie on this occasion.

0:40:190:40:21

John and Susan Evans are Beryl's first cousins, once removed.

0:40:210:40:26

-So we've got your grandmother's sister was Alice?

-Yeah.

0:40:260:40:30

-She had two children?

-Yeah.

0:40:300:40:32

The first child was Marjorie?

0:40:320:40:34

-Marjorie.

-Yeah.

-The other one was Mickey.

0:40:340:40:37

We've got Marjorie marrying somebody called Roberts?

0:40:370:40:40

-Yeah.

-And there's three children, Malcolm, Steven and Penny.

-Penny, I think, yeah.

0:40:400:40:44

They are able to fill in lots of the gaps on Beryl's Aunt Alice's branch of the family tree.

0:40:440:40:49

I think we've done very well. We've drained you of information.

0:40:510:40:54

Once they've signed the contracts, the claim can be submitted on their behalf

0:40:540:40:58

and Frasers will make their commission.

0:40:580:41:00

But it seems John and Susan know nothing of Beryl's existence.

0:41:000:41:05

As an illegitimate child born in the 1920s, it looks like she may well have been a family secret.

0:41:050:41:13

All I know is it's on me grandmother's side somewhere,

0:41:130:41:18

but we've never really delved into the family tree or anything,

0:41:180:41:22

so you know, we've no idea.

0:41:220:41:24

We've got family all over the place, but I can't imagine for the life of me who the missing link is.

0:41:240:41:30

-Thank you very much.

-And for Paul Matthews it's a successful end to a long day.

0:41:300:41:36

We've made some good inroads. It's nearly half nine at night,

0:41:360:41:41

so I've had 13 hours on the road so far, so well and truly shattered.

0:41:410:41:45

So looking forward to getting home,

0:41:450:41:47

have a bit of kip and then get up in the morning and start all over again.

0:41:470:41:51

The heirs will get their share of Beryl's estate,

0:41:520:41:56

which is thought to be worth £100,000.

0:41:560:42:00

But it's a different story for Beryl's best friend and sister-in-law, Irene.

0:42:000:42:05

Obviously, she's not going to get anything from this.

0:42:050:42:09

And sometimes you have to feel, well, she probably deserves it

0:42:090:42:13

and if only there was a will, then she may be several hundred thousand pounds better off.

0:42:130:42:19

I would have preferred Beryl to

0:42:200:42:23

write a will and we would know then

0:42:230:42:29

who she really wanted to pass it on to.

0:42:290:42:33

I miss Beryl terrible.

0:42:330:42:35

I've got no-one else to go out with.

0:42:350:42:37

She was my bosom friend.

0:42:370:42:39

So this has been a big wrench in my life.

0:42:390:42:43

I'm really sad to have lost everything.

0:42:430:42:47

All I have now is a memory.

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