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Today the heir hunters are tested to the max on a case worth an estimated £100,000. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
The search may take them to relatives who have no idea they're in line for a windfall. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:14 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
On today's show - | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
It's not hers. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
The team takes a huge risk. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Still unsure there's any value in this. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Is there a way their gamble will pay off? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
The whole of this work may go in the bin. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
The heir hunters join forces with a friend of the deceased | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
to try to contact the rightful heirs. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
I don't see why it should go to the government. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
It's a hunt which will retrace a journey from 1950s Jamaica. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
where beneficiaries still need to be found. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Every year in the UK, an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
If no relatives are found, then any money that's left behind will go to the government. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
But there are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
They're called heir hunters. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
It's their business to track down missing relatives | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
I bring about a change, so that the rightful assets go to the rightful family members. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:54 | |
The Treasury's list of unclaimed estates is released at midnight every Thursday. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
It's now 7am on Thursday morning, in London. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
There are a lot of names on the list. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Staff at heir-hunting company Fraser and Fraser | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
have come in early to beat the competition. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Got this case of Glanfield coming out in Ipswich. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
Turned out to be quite a big family. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
So we're just sorting them out. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
They've got the beginnings of a family tree, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
and even some names of potential heirs, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
for a case called Mary Glanfield. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
The team's made fast progress researching the deceased. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
They've worked out that Mary died in Ipswich in 2007, aged 69. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
She may have owned her own property, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
something that could make this estate worth working. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
Somehow, they need to confirm that Mary was a home owner. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
Trying to find phone numbers for any neighbours of the deceased. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Neighbour enquiries can be really invaluable for us. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
The Treasury's list doesn't reveal what estates are worth, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
so it's up to heir hunters to estimate their value. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
As they normally work on commission, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
picking the right case can be a real gamble. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
The next step is to confirm whether there's any value in this, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
and if we should be continuing or stopping our costs now. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
Mary Glanfield was born in Ipswich just before the war, in 1938. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
She was something of an enigma, and no photos of her can be traced. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
But former neighbours do recall | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
a warm, friendly lady, and her partner, Fred. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
She was a very nice person, very bubbly. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Very happy together. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
I was invited round for a cup of tea. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Fred and Mary showed me round the place they shared together. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
She was a lovely person. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
For eight years, the couple lived beside another neighbour, Mr Parsons. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
We didn't see them as much as hear them, they were always laughing. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
On a Sunday they'd be in the kitchen together, singing hymns, very happily. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:31 | |
Until Fred unfortunately passed away, in his hundreds. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Shortly after that, we believe she moved into a home. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Mary lived in a care home in Ipswich until she was nearly 70, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
and sadly passed away in November 2007. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Back at the office, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
the team's trying to find out if Mary definitely owned her own property. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Who did you buy your house off? Was it... | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
You're renting. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
Partner Andrew Fraser has contacted the new occupant of Mary's old house. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Will they know if Mary was a home owner? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
But he bought it from the Glanfields. Yeah. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
OK. Sorry for disturbing you, but thank you very much for the help. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
Possible. We're still on a possible. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
Her husband died aged 104? | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Her husband? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
But the only record of a Mary Glanfield they found wasn't married. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
She's a spinster. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
It looks like the research isn't matching up. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
The current resident believes Mary was married. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
The Mary Glanfield we've been working | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
was a spinster birth, ie, she was born as Mary Glanfield. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
If this person's right, and she was married, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
everything we've done so far is the wrong family. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
It's back to the records to double-check their research. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
Another database soon throws up a new result. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
We've now found out that she lived with a gentleman who did indeed die aged 101. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:11 | |
They're different surnames, so they possibly weren't married. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
Some women do keep their own name, so | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
we need to double-check there is no marriage for them. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
They've confirmed that Mary lived with Fred Potter. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
If the couple weren't married, did Mary inherit the property? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
This was the very reason they decided to work the case. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
It's got partner Andrew Fraser worried. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
I'm working on the basis that the property, potentially, was owned by Mr Potter. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
He leaves a will and leaves it all to this Mary Glanfield. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:50 | |
And it's her estate to which we're working. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
There are the assumptions we're making. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
If we're wrong on any point of that assumption, | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
then we could be on a dead-end road. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
After such a head start, the uncertainty is a big setback. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
At the moment, ten past eight, we're still unsure if there's any value in this. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:16 | |
It's a gamble, but Andrew decides to invest in the case. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
He's asked a researcher to go to Ipswich | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
to make some enquiries at the property. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
The company employs a network of regional heir hunters | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
who are on standby every Thursday. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
They provide a vital role making door-to-door enquiries | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
across the country in the race to find and sign up heirs. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
This morning, traveller Ewart Lindsey is being sent from Watford | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
to travel 94 miles to Ipswich. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Can he find out if the couple were married? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
First step is to make an enquiry where the deceased used to live. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
You just never know, you see. She may well be a spinster. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
But you just never know. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
While Ewart tries to get some answers, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
the team continue their research into Mary's former property. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
They've just heard the house was sold. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
Frederick Potter was in on his own, then Mary, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
the deceased, moves in. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Just before she dies, she moves into a nursing home. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
Her property is sold just before she dies. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Public records don't show whether the property was in Mary's name. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
But if it was hers, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
the estate could be very valuable. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
A house in this location would have sold | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
for an estimated £150,000. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
If it all went to Mary, it makes this case worth working. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
So the team goes ahead with the search for heirs to Mary Glanfield's mystery estate. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:04 | |
Mary Glanfield's brother, Roger F Glanfield, died only aged 20, in 1960, in Reading. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
There's no marriages before he died, obviously at that age you wouldn't expect it. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
So, he's died, probably with no issue. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Researcher Dominic has been building Mary's family tree. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
All the stems have revealed themselves very easily. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
He's worked out that Mary was born to Frank Glanfield and Ella Hardingham in Ipswich in 1938. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:35 | |
She had a younger brother, Roger, who had no issue, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
which in heir-hunting terms, means he had no children. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Her father, Frank, did have five siblings. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
But none of them had any children either. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
That side looks like it's dead. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
One minor, one bachelor and three marriages with no issue. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Which is strange, but I've double-checked. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
With no cousins on her father's side, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
any heirs to Mary Glanfield's estate are going to come from her mother's side. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
Ella Hardingham had seven siblings, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and it looks like they do have descendants. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
If it's been this easy for the team to discover the family tree, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
the competition may have the same information. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
The team rushes to find a contact number for one of Mary's cousins. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
This could be their first heir. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Right, this woman here, if she's alive, would be the heir. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Her husband had them in 1999. Daughter and son-in-law. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
Case manager David Pacifico calls the possible heir | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
to try to sign her ahead of the competition. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
The opposition are on the phones. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
But it's a frustrating situation. Both lines are engaged. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
Great! Might as well wait until the opposition speak to them. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
If the competition's on the other line, the company may lose the case. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:06 | |
David has to make a quick-fire decision. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
-Hello? -Hello, Ewart. Morning. -Morning, David. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-Are you on your way to Ipswich? -I am, yes. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I've got a phone number for somebody in Ipswich. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
-Sounds like the opposition are on the phone to her. -Right. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
We've got an address in Ipswich of a daughter... well, a cousin once removed. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
What do you want me to do? Go straight there? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
At the moment, I'd rather you go there. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Although they haven't established the value of the estate, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Ewart is taken off enquiries at Mary's former property | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
to approach an heir who also lives in Ipswich. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
He's hoping to get there before a rival company signs her up. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Trying to work it out. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
If she's speaking to the opposition at this present moment, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
I should be there by 9:30-ish. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
I hope to pip them to the post. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Charm my way in. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
And... get a signature. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Losing the case to a rival company is a real possibility. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Meanwhile, David keeps dialling the number for the heir. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
And his persistence soon pays off. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Oh, it's ringing! | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
Hello, we're trying to trace members of the Hardingham family. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
I don't know if anyone else has contacted you, at all? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Right, I thought as much. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
We are a different company, that are looking into the same matter. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
It's bad news. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
It seems the heir has already been spoken to by the competition. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
One of my colleagues is actually close to Ipswich. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
Would it be possible for him to meet with you? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
I was hoping, if it's convenient, this morning. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Not at all, today? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Things aren't going the team's way. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
The heir doesn't want to meet anyone from the company. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
We can't see her today. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
Do we want him in Ipswich? The only other thing would be an enquiry. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
The team want to send Ewart back to do the enquiry | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
at Mary's address, to confirm their research. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
But across the office, staff have found another case which has a definite value. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
-Ewart can't see the woman. -I've spoken to the heir. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
-Can you send Ewart to Croydon, please? -Croydon? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
As heir hunting is such a gamble, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
partner Neil Fraser makes the decision to cut their losses | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
and send Ewart to the valuable Croydon case instead. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
-Hello? -Ewart, that woman can't be seen today and there's nobody else | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
-in Ipswich. Can you go to Croydon? -Croydon. Okey-dokey. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
It's a disappointment for the team. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
The hunt for Mary Glanfield's heirs | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
is falling apart at the seams. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
They have no idea of the estate's value, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
and if they contact relatives, it could be a waste of time. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
But Andrew Fraser doesn't give up that easily. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
He has a new plan which might put the case back on track. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
We're still working blind, in terms of value. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
We have to wait until the Probate Office opens at 10 o'clock | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
before we can have any indication whether she actually owned a property or not. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
It's now approaching 9:30. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
A researcher is being sent to the Probate Registry | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
to apply for Fred Potter's will, when the doors open at 10 o'clock. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
If they can get it, it will reveal | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
if Fred left his property to Mary, then it will be all systems go. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
But if Mary didn't inherit, this heir hunt could have been a complete waste of time. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
Coming up - can this investigation be saved? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
I hope there's value there. If not, we'll come a real cropper on this. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
While some unclaimed estates lead to relatives a few streets away, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
others can cross the globe. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
Keith Alexander Saunders died in 2008 without leaving a will. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
His unclaimed estate was advertised by the Treasury Solicitor. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
When staff at Fraser and Fraser made initial enquiries, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
their leads went nowhere. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
The case was put on the back burner. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
And that's where it would have stayed, unless case manager | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Tony Pledger hadn't got a phone call from one of Keith's close friends. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:56 | |
The case of Keith Saunders, otherwise Keith Sanders, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
really didn't get going until we received a telephone call from Minette Smith, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:06 | |
with additional information that she had about her good friend. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Seven miles away in south London, Minette Smith had been doing her own amateur heir hunt | 0:16:11 | 0:16:17 | |
to make sure Keith's relatives received his inheritance. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I don't see why it should go to the government. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
I just feel that if he's got family, then it should go to them. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
Keith became a life-long friend of Minette's family | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
when he moved from Jamaica in the 1950s. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
I met Keith in 1956, when I was 12 years old. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
He would come around at whenever, the weekends, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
Saturdays, Sundays, and | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
just be part of the family. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
He was a jolly person. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
He'd always give me, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:57 | |
when I was a child, and my children, two shillings. Half a crown. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:04 | |
But as he got older, he got a bit tighter. But that was Keith. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
Keith spent his life working for British Rail. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
When he reached his 80s, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Minette moved him into sheltered housing and took care of his affairs. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Eventually, Keith died in Enfield, at the age of 83. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
Minette found out he hadn't left a will and was worried what would happen to his money. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
I thought maybe he had made it, even if he had left it to charity or whatever. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:37 | |
I didn't push because I didn't want him to think that I was after what he had. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
And of course, as I said, I did not believe that he had, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
you know, as much money as it happens he's left. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
To Minette's surprise, it seemed Keith had left £90,000. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
She was determined to find Keith's long-lost relatives, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
and started her own search for heirs back in 2009. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Apparently his mother had just him and his sister, Elaine. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Elaine apparently had children. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Minette didn't have a contact for his sister, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
as Keith had lost touch with his sibling. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
He did keep in touch with his sister | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
until about 30 years ago, when he lost trace of her, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
sending her a card at Christmas, with a postal order in it, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
and it actually came back | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
and that was the end of their connection. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
So Minette placed an advert in a Jamaican newspaper, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
looking for information about Keith's sister. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
I did it very discreetly, just looking for Elaine, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
rather than letting people know that he had died. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
The advert didn't produce any results. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
Minette had drawn a blank with her research into Keith's missing relatives. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
But then she heard about the professional heir hunters, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
and decided to contact one of the companies. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
The person who took the call was Tony Pledger. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
He hoped fresh information about Keith from a friend who'd known him 52 years | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
could move the investigation forward. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
She was able to give us a potential place of birth for the deceased. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
She also had some knowledge of the assets of the estate. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
And as a friend of the deceased, she had some family information. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:37 | |
Personal knowledge is invaluable to an heir hunt. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
The team now knew where Keith was from, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
and could hone the research to an island in the Caribbean. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
Like so many others, Keith had emigrated from Jamaica to the UK in 1950, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
seen to be a home from home for British Caribbean people. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Immigrants from Jamaica would have viewed Britain as the mother country. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
They felt an affinity to it. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
That they belonged there. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Their education had been essentially a British education. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
They felt at one with it, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
so theirs would have been, if you like, an idealised view of what they would find. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
So 26-year-old Keith would have paid a fare of £28 to board a ship bound for England. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:27 | |
After the Second World War, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Britain was keen to attract migrant workers to its shores. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Britain needed labour after the Second World War. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
They needed to replenish, revitalise the economy. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
There was obviously loss of male workforce as a result of the war, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
and a need to build the economy and get people working, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
not necessarily in highly skilled areas, but in more unskilled areas. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
So the government passed a law to help people | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
from its former overseas territories settle in Britain. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
In 1948, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Britain passed the Citizen Act. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
It went under the Latin title of | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Civis Britannicus Sum - | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
"I am British". | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
So that, in fact, I think, opened the gate | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
for the people coming to Britain. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Like many other Jamaicans, Keith settled in the UK, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
and began a new career working with British Rail. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
The nationalised industries, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
like, for instance, British Rail, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
London Transport, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
did not have a colour bar, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
and the union seems to support that. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
So that's the reason why most Jamaicans | 0:21:55 | 0:22:01 | |
tried to find a job in one of the nationalised industries. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Keith had arrived in a country which seemed to offer more opportunities than his homeland. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
But growing resentment towards immigrants in the UK didn't make life easy. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
It was very difficult for the immigrants to find, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
one would argue, decent accommodation. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
They were forced by landlords to pay excessive rents for very poor-quality housing | 0:22:23 | 0:22:29 | |
and live in very overcrowded conditions. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
The new immigrant population began to find solutions to their housing problems, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
like at the boarding house in north London, where both Minette's family and Keith had lived. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
Early pioneer immigrants bought up properties and re-let them | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
to more recent arrivals, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:51 | |
sometimes charging excessive rents and sometimes not. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
And that created communities as well, a nexus of community, | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
as the landlords developed their holding on properties. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
So that was one way of fighting back or accommodating the needs | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
of immigrants who were suffering at the hands of local racists. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Keith settled in Britain, and stayed for the rest of his life like many of his countrymen. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
But surprisingly, he never once returned to his birthplace of Jamaica. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
It could be that he came here and he... the life... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
he had made for himself was so different from the one he left, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
that he just didn't want to spoil it. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
I don't think we seriously thought we'd be back in five years, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
but we certainly didn't intend to stay. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Now the search for heirs to Keith's £90,000 estate | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
was focused on the country he left behind. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
Did he have living relatives in Jamaica, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
and would the heir hunters be able to find them? | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
and millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
But not every case can be cracked. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
The Treasury has a list of over 2000 estates | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
which have baffled the heir hunters and are unsolved. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Could you be the heir they've been searching for? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Are you in line for a windfall worth hundreds, thousands or even millions of pounds? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:30 | |
Estates stay on the list for up to 30 years, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
and today we're focusing on three names - | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
are they relatives of yours? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Victor Albert Haber from Edmonton in London | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
died in August 1992. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
If heirs aren't found, his money will go to the government. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
Did you know Florence Patricia De Groot, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
who died in Brighton on January the 2nd, 1999? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
De Groot is a rare surname, originating from Holland. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
The last census showed that only one in a million people had this name in England and Wales. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
Also on our list is John Richard Kendrick, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
who died in July, 2006. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
He was from Stratford-Upon-Avon. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
All efforts to trace his relatives have drawn a blank. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
If the names Victor Haber, Florence De Groot or John Kendrick mean anything to you | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
or someone you know, you could have an unexpected windfall coming your way. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
Sometimes, an heir hunt begins when people are desperate | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
to find family members of their departed friends. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
In 2010, Minette Smith called the heir hunters | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
and asked them to find the family of her friend Keith Saunders, who'd died without leaving a will. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
He had a beautiful smile and he was a jolly person, you'd just have a good laugh. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
It seemed Keith had left an estate worth around £90,000, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
and Minette was determined it should go to his rightful heirs. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
And crucially, she was convinced Keith had a sister called Elaine. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
I just feel that if he's got family, it should go to them. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Now the heir hunters had leads on Keith Saunders, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
they could make a start. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
The first thing that we need to do in any case | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
is to obtain a copy of the death record of the deceased. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Having got a copy of that, it indicated a date of birth, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
and just Jamaica. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
The death certificate gave them little to go on. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
They needed to know the exact town where Keith was born. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
And there was some confusion about Keith's name. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
The death cert' | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
hindered more than helped in as much as all it did was give a potential extra surname. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
His surname on the death record is given as Sanders, S-A-N-D-E-R-S. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
It's our understanding that it is Saunders, S-A-U-N-D-E-R-S, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
which makes a lot of difference when you're searching for a name filed alphabetically. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
The team turn to Minette. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
Having known Keith for 52 years, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
could she shed some light on his name or birthplace? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
People that actually knew the decedent quite well are convinced it's Saunders, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
so I'd rather go with somebody who actually knew the deceased | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
rather than somebody who might have only been involved with them after they're deceased | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
through their own employment. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
On Minette's advice that Keith was called Saunders | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
and born in St Anne parish, Jamaica, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
the team began to search for his birth certificate. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But an overseas heir hunt is never easy. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
The registration in Jamaica is, I understand, a bit haphazard, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
which is why we put it out to a Jamaican agent. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
The fact that that agent has been unable to find anything positive and report back to us | 0:28:00 | 0:28:07 | |
doesn't in any way reflect on the agent. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
It might be just the poor quality of the records. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
A birth record would have given them Keith's parents' name, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
but the local heir hunter couldn't find the certificate. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
So the team turned to Minette again. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Minette was able to give us the name of a sister, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
and she recollected who she thought his mum was. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
But to try and find the death of a Ruby Saunders or Sanders... | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
If you find two or three, which one is the right one, if any? | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
Minette told them Keith's mother was called Ruby Saunders, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
and he had a sister, Elaine. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
But nothing in this heir hunt was going to plan. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
With regard to the potential sister as Elaine, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Minette thought she was Elaine Stanley. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
Whether she was born as Stanley or she married a Mr Stanley, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
or she just lived with a Mr Stanley and took on his name, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
is something that Minette didn't know and we couldn't establish. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:15 | |
It wasn't clear if Elaine was known by her maiden name or her married name. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
But the team urgently needed to find her. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Keith's sister's children would be heirs to his estate. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
She would, I think, have been born probably after him, a couple of years, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
perhaps about, say, 1926 or so. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
That she was a nurse, probably in Allman Town in Kingston, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:42 | |
and that she had, I think, three or four children | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
who would, of course, be nephews and nieces of the decedent. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Tony got on the phone to call hospitals in Jamaica | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
to check their former employees for an Elaine Stanley. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
Their records | 0:29:58 | 0:29:59 | |
didn't really cover nurses | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
who would probably have been a nurse in the hospital best part of 30 years ago, perhaps. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
The conversations with hospital staff didn't give them any leads, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
so they used the Jamaican phonebook to call families named Stanley. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
You could easily ring somebody and say, "I'm trying to reach Elaine Stanley." | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
"Was that somebody in your family?" | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
They might have had an Elaine Stanley, but is it the right family? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Without concrete details like birth records, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
the team had to accept they couldn't find Keith's sister in Jamaica. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
There was one last lead to follow. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Minette knew of another possible relative who'd lived in England. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
It's our understanding that the decedent came to England in about 1950 | 0:30:45 | 0:30:51 | |
to potentially live with an uncle. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
That would mean he came over here at about 26, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
because he'd be about 86 if he was alive today. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
If that uncle had had children, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
they would be cousins of the deceased | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
and as such would have a potential entitlement. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
It's thought Keith's uncle had lived in London. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
But the team had no name, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
so they had no way of finding him or connecting him to Keith. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
Short of travelling to Jamaica and visiting every parish, the team was running out of options. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
And they had no guarantees the case was worth £90,000. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:34 | |
One doesn't know what's happened to that since he's died. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
We can't confirm that that figure is accurate. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
We're in a Catch-22 situation. We don't want to invest too much effort | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
only to find that if we succeed, we don't cover our costs. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
Without knowing the exact value, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:51 | |
the team couldn't invest much more time or money researching the estate. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
But that doesn't mean the search is over. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
What could progress this case is somebody | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
realising that they either knew Keith or were related to Keith. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:09 | |
If Keith came over in 1950, he could have married. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
He could have had children who could be anywhere in the world, but hopefully they're in the UK. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:19 | |
For Minette Smith, Keith's lifelong friend, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
it will be a great comfort when heirs are finally found. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I'm just hoping that we | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
get some answers and find some relatives | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
and that they can enjoy what he's worked very hard for. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:39 | |
So could you or someone you know be related to Keith Alexander Saunders from Jamaica? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
If so, you could be entitled to his unclaimed estate, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
estimated at £90,000. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
In central London, the heir hunters have been looking into the case of Mary Glanfield. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
In no time at all, they've built a large family tree. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
It looks like we've got more possible stems out of Ipswich. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
Trouble is, they still don't know how much the case is worth | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
so everything they're doing is a gamble. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
If it's a low-value case, the commission will barely pay for the work they've done, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
let alone the months of paperwork ahead. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
I don't like the look of this, I really don't. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
It'll be a low-value case. We're getting into large families here. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
Mary Glanfield lived with Fred Potter, a man 30 years her senior, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
as neighbours recall. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
She was a very nice person. Very bubbly. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
And very happy together. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
It's been hard to establish if Mary and Fred were married, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
and that affects whether she owned the property they lived in. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
With all the confusion, partner Neil Fraser has stepped in to nail down some hard facts. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
For us it's vital to work out if the estate has some value, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
especially when the tree gets this big. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Quite a few staff working on it. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
My brother's been looking at some of it this morning trying to work out values. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:23 | |
I've now moved in to give a hand on that and see what else is happening. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:28 | |
What we do know is that Mary had a partner, 101 years old when he died. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
This is Frederick Potter. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
Neil urgently wants to know what Fred's relationship was to Mary, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
and if she was the sole beneficiary to his estate when he died in 2005. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:45 | |
He left a will, that's been registered at First Avenue House. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
We've applied for a copy of that. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
It will take at least an hour to get that copy. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
In the meantime, we know the value of that probate was £109,000. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
What we're hoping to find from this probate | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
is that he left it all to Mary. If he left it to someone else, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
then we may be dealing with a very, very small estate | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
and the whole of this work may go in the bin. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
The team has already spent valuable time and effort investigating this case. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
...had a brief look at marriages. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Now researcher Noel has discovered some information that could change the picture completely. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:28 | |
-You know this Frederick Potter guy? -Yeah. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Still haven't got the details of the will back? | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
He was married. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
He's probably got three kids. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
And the question is, do they benefit? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Fred and Mary weren't married, and he had three children from a previous marriage | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
who he might have left his estate to. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
This means Mary might not have got much of an inheritance at all. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
I'm worried about... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
I leave my children the bulk of the estate and leave £5,000 to Mary. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:04 | |
Things are looking bleak for the team. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
It's now more important than ever they get Fred's will. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
David calls the researcher who's gone to the Probate Office for an update. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
Can you really keep an eye on that one? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
It's highly important to get that one and phone it through down here. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
After an anxious 45-minute wait, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
David gets a call back about the details of the will. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
It's the moment they've been waiting for. Did Mary inherit the house? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
What does he give to Mary? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Sorry, he left his property to Mary, or is it a life... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
Until when? Until she dies? | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
And then what happens if she dies? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
It's not looking good. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
So it's upon trust for her while she's still using it? | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
He's not actually given it to her? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Right. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
The will contains the exact news they didn't want to hear, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
and David rushes to tell Neil. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
It's not hers. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
It's for use for her. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Free of mortgage for her | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
until she leaves or dies. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
It can't be sold without her consent. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
-He's bringing the will back at one o'clock. -No money in it. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
Fred's property was given to Mary until she died. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Then the ownership reverted to his children. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Mary's estate doesn't include the detached bungalow she lived in, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
the asset which made this heir hunt worthwhile. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
My thought's we got this far, we do it by post, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
and we say, "What now?" | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
The team knows that pressing ahead could be pointless. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
Neil's on the verge of pulling the plug on this case. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
But could there be one line of enquiry they haven't yet tried? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
What if Mary had previously owned any of the houses she had lived in? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
See if we've got a previous address for her. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
If it's of an age where we can work out if she sold it to move in with him. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:24 | |
If Neil's right, his hunch might just redeem the heir hunt. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
If she owned the property, we know there's value. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Shall we continue working until... | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Oh, yeah. Keep working. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Even if it's low value, as I said to Neil, we got this far. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
Research focuses on Mary's former addresses - | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
had she owned any of the houses? | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Where was she before that, '04? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Can we check previous addresses? | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Approve these ones. | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
Did she own number 1, do you know? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
These are not rented properties? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
One address starts to look promising. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
You've been most helpful, thank you very much. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
The results of David's phone call | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
could be a breakthrough. It looks likely | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
that Mary owned and sold a house in 1999. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
We've found out where | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
she used to live, and I think she may have owned that property, so | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
at the end of the day, I think there is value to this estate. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
So, if that's the case, then all the people we've chased, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
it's certainly been worthwhile to do so. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
The heir hunt is back on. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
Finally, the team can work | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
on the basis that there is a sizeable inheritance in the Glanfield estate. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
Neil works fast to produce an estimate. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
I've got an old address now. David's done a phone enquiry. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
We know that property's been sold. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
It's been sold twice. I can't tell if she sold it, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
but I know it was sold round about when she moved out. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
It was sold for £165,000. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
Give or take a bit, we're probably still dealing with a £100,000 estate, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
but it's from a different asset. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
It's a topsy-turvy heir hunt. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
It's now one o'clock and they've just established the estate's worth working. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
This is what the team would normally make certain of at the start of the day. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
And while they've been busy, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
a rival firm has spoken to an heir. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
They know that five of Mary's seven aunts and uncles had children, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
leading to a wide family on her mother's side. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Now they urgently need to contact and sign up the other heirs. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Is there a Mr Hardingham there? | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
It would have been your mother's cousin. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Does the name Glanfield mean anything to you? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
I will be writing to you both today. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Thank you very much. Bye-bye. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
So that stem is complete, right? The Derek stem is complete. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
Neil's brainwave has saved the heir hunt, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
much to his relief. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
What looked like a fairly good day turned into a very bad day, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
and has now had a ray of sunshine, so it's a good day after all. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
Over the coming weeks, the company signs | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
several heirs from the 28 relatives who are entitled | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
to Mary Glanfield's estate, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
which Neil estimates is worth £100,000. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
One of the heirs is Royce Derek, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
who's Mary's first cousin, once removed. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
He couldn't contain his surprise when he heard he was in line for a small windfall. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
In a word, shocked, well, sad. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
My sister, out of the blue, rang me and said, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
"This chap has knocked at the door." | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
And he said we're related... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
hopefully related to this Mary, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
who we knew nothing about. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Royce didn't know his father's relatives, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
but he's grateful to inherit from a mystery cousin. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
I shall spend it, and enjoy it. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
In recognition of thanks to her. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:47 | |
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