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It's early morning and one heir hunter has hit the road to chase up new information

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about a case worth over £2 million.

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He's hoping to track down long-lost relatives who have no idea

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they could be in line for a life-changing sum.

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Could he be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme...

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The heir hunters try to solve one of their biggest ever cases.

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The multi-million-pound estate of a dishevelled recluse.

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I am totally astonished that he had so much money.

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I would never have guessed he was so wealthy.

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As the heir hunters look at a case in West London,

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is a £600,000 Kensington flat just the tip of an iceberg?

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Reasonable to assume if you've have a good quality leasehold property,

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that you've got a good quality bank account to go with it.

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Plus how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates

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where beneficiaries still need to be found.

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Could you be in line for windfall?

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Every year in the UK,

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an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found, then any money left behind goes to Her Majesty's Government.

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Last year, the Crown made £12 million from unclaimed estates.

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There are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening.

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Known as heir hunters, their business is to track down

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missing relatives and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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I make sure that the Government doesn't seize assets

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which do not belong to them.

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Every Thursday morning, heir hunting companies across the land

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scrutinise the Treasury's latest list of unclaimed estates.

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I guess she's the sister...

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Working on commission,

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they're looking for estates that are valuable enough

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for them to invest time and money of to find heirs.

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We're missing the birth of her father.

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One estate which was first released by the Treasury in 2006

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is that of David John Roberts. Heir hunting company,

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Celtic Research, have spent the last five years trying to find his heirs.

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And with good reason.

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This one looked funny because it was listed as only worth about £2,000.

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A week after that, the value changed.

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It was the same case and instead of £2,000,

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it was £2 million.

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£2 million is a colossal sum.

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and could give Peter his largest ever pay-day.

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But David Roberts has proved to be an enigmatic figure.

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The search for his heirs has been an uphill struggle.

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David Hugh John Roberts died in a modest, first-floor flat

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in Raynes Park in London in 2005.

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He was a successful businessman

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and, the 1970s, an active member of his local Conservative Club.

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He eventually became chairman,

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and friends from the club remember him as a pleasant, but private man.

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When he came into the club he was always well dressed.

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He always wore a suit and tie.

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He always looked businesslike.

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The way he acted was much the same.

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In the mid-1980s, David suddenly resigned as chairman of the club

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and cut himself off from everyone he knew there.

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Over the next 20 years,

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it seems that he retreated away from this life.

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To his neighbours, he was someone they saw

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as a rather dishevelled recluse.

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I did see him walking along the road, pretty much every day.

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He didn't look smart, his clothing were rather shabby,

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rather long, grey hair.

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He didn't really keep himself in trim condition.

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But in death it emerged there was more

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to the mysterious David Roberts than appearances suggested.

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At some point, he'd been wealthy enough to squirrel away

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an enormous £2 million fortune.

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For those who'd known David as successful businessman,

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this wasn't a surprise.

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He never gave the impression that he was short of money.

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What his financial position was I don't think anybody really new.

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He certainly gave the impression that he had some money.

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Cracking the case of David Roberts and his £2 million estate

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has become something of a holy grail for the heir hunters.

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Peter Birchwood and his son, Hector,

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have over 40 years combined experience in the genealogy game

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and like to solve the cases other companies have given up on.

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If we check on the telephone directory, it might show up.

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Several heir hunters have tried to crack the Roberts case, but they've been defeated

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by a lack of information.

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Now there's hope that it could finally be solved.

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In 2010, new information has come to light.

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Peter has wasted no time reopening the case.

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One of the main things is the 1911 census

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which was not available at the time that we worked on the case.

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I consulted that and we might

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have some information that could be valuable.

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The tantalising new information in the 1911 census

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has got Peter really excited.

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It shows two new children listed

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in the Robert's household who weren't there in 1901.

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It's the offspring of these children that could potentially

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lead Peter to the rightful heirs to David Roberts's £2 million estate.

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Big value cases have, on the whole, proved to be unsolvable.

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Perhaps this one might be different.

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Peter and Hector began work

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on this case long before the 1911 census was released.

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They have already thoroughly researched

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David's family background.

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The deceased didn't have a wife or children

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and no siblings.

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Peter has looked into David's mother's family

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in the hope of finding aunts and uncles that may lead him to cousins.

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He's learnt that David's mum, Ethel, had two sisters,

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one who died in infancy and another who died in 1979,

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leaving no children.

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With one side of the family dead,

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we were working on the Roberts family, the paternal cousin line.

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Peter has had to go way back down the generations.

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The father, Hugh David Roberts

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was one of four children.

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They all lived in Dolwyddelan.

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The Roberts family had been in the area for generations.

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David's grandparents, Catherine and Hugh Roberts,

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had indeed raised four children, including David's father, Hugh.

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But Hugh's sister, Elizabeth, had died without children

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and his other sister and brother had disappeared from all records.

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This is hugely frustrating for Peter.

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These siblings would have been David's aunts and uncles

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and could have led him to heirs.

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But Peter has learnt that David's grandfather was a slate quarry man.

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So how did David end up in London with a high flying city career?

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The answer is his father, also Hugh, who moved away in the 1900s.

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The father of the deceased was one of the Welsh emigrants,

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if you can put it like that,

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who came to London back in the early years of the 1900s.

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Before he married, he was apprenticed as a draper

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in one of the old-time Oxford Street department stores.

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David's father worked in Marshall and Snelgrove,

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a textile retailer of distinction,

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established in 1878 on London's busy Oxford Street.

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Marshall and Snelgrove,

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and in some ways its great rival, Swan and Edgar of Piccadilly,

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they were upmarket stores.

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There was a battle going on for who

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was going to be the classiest store in London.

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Marshall and Snelgrove were certainly

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key players in that battle.

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As London boomed in the early 1900s,

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the department stores needed specific labour skills.

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People from the provinces, like Hugh,

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were in a good position to provide it.

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Unfortunately, he had to start at the bottom.

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The job of an assistant draper would be pretty much a dogsbody.

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It's pretty mundane work at that level.

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All the time you're hoping that you'd eventually

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become a sales person yourself.

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Hugh Roberts may have been a humble draper's assistant,

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but his son went on to become a multi-millionaire.

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Peter's hot on the trial of his heirs.

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The two new children mentioned, in the census,

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could be the key to cracking the case,

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so Peter's decided to hit the road.

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He doesn't have much to go on,

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but he's heading to the Llandudno register office in North Wales,

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where records of the Roberts family's births,

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deaths and marriages are kept.

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The step-grandmother of the deceased

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is shown as having two children with Hugh Roberts, the grandfather.

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These children could be David's are half-blood aunt and uncle.

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It's an exciting lead and Peter's come to see the registrar,

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armed with information about David's grandfather Hugh's

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second marriage to Margaret A Jones.

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-How are you?

-Oh, not so bad.

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Pleased to meet you. Have yourself a seat.

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Somewhere between 1901 and 1911

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there's a birth in this family. Probably two, possibly twins.

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I would like to know if that's at all possible.

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Peter wants to cross-reference the information on the census

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with records held at the register office.

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This will confirm that he's onto the right family.

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I know it says here on the 1911 census

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that they had been married for 12 years.

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1486, yeah...

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Peter's hoping to see a copy of Hugh and Margaret's marriage certificate.

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This could help him find out if the couple went on to have children

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who could lead him to heirs.

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Hugh Roberts, Margaret Anne Jones.

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Mmm, I wonder if it's the right person?

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Hugh should have a father, also called Hugh.

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-No.

-Ah...

-Robert.

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So that then is the wrong marriage.

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It's a dead end.

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The marriage records don't match the information

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Peter has from the census

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so he tries a different approach.

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We have got that Margaret,

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that would be Margaret Roberts,

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died on 29th July, 1932 in Dolwyddelan.

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Right.

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It's another tense wait for Peter.

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Margaret Roberts's death certificate

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could be almost as useful as records for her marriage

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to David's grandfather.

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Is it the key to cracking this £2 million case?

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Coming up...

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The search reveals more about David's successful City career,

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but does it get Peter any closer to finding heirs?

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Penny Belchambers was born in 1944 in Tonbridge.

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She died in hospital, in London, aged just 64.

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Penny had lived in her Kensington flat for years

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and the porter remembers her as a very private person.

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She didn't like to talk to anybody.

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She'd just go out, come back and never said anything to anybody.

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Penny died without leaving a will

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and few people seem to know anything about her.

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But, Roderick Dannatt knew Penny through his father, Denzel.

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Well I knew her in her late 50s.

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She used to work in central government.

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In an earlier time, she travelled a lot

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and I have an impression of a former passion for horses, too.

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Penny lived and cared for Roderick's father, Denzel,

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for the last four years of her life.

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The pair had originally struck up a friendship, through a mutual love

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of chess and despite being 30 years his junior, they became inseparable.

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She looked after my father and she was very useful

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in helping putting my father's affairs in order.

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Even though Penny spent the final years of her life living with Denzel,

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she still came to her flat every day

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to care for her beloved parrot, George.

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The parrot came from her time in the East, in Malaysia or Singapore

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and he came back with her to England.

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It was a feature, and you see it in photographs going back a few years.

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She used to put him on a stick

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and carry him around on a stick, about so long.

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She would walk him down to the park, and she would come back

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and sit in the foyer and let George roam around the foyer.

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It was fabulous to watch.

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Penny's estate was advertised by the Treasury in 2010

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and heir hunting company, Fraser & Fraser picked up the case.

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The job of tracking down her heirs fell to senior case manager, Tony Pledger.

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Because they were of a good address, erm,

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obviously we started to research into it.

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Tony has over 45 years experience in genealogy

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and he quickly realised this was a high-value estate.

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The team had established that Penny owned her Kensington flat,

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which was worth an astonishing £600,000.

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With such a valuable property,

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Tony suspected they'd be more to come.

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It's reasonable to assume if you've got a good quality leasehold property,

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you've got a good quality bank account to go with it.

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Tony and his team had to start with the basics because the Treasury

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had only given them limited information about Penny.

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All we had was a name, the date of death

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and the place of registration of the death.

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Step one was to get Penny's birth certificate

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and Tony used this to find her parents.

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They were Isabella Dyson and Arthur Moore.

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They had married in 1936 and, frustratingly,

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initial research suggested Penny was an only child.

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But Tony felt there were reasons to be positive.

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She was actually called Penelope Brabazon Harewood Moore.

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Her parents, her mother was Isabella Sheila Brabazon Colvec Dyson,

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before she married Arthur Geoffrey Harewood Moore.

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So, you know, I always think the more Christian names you've got,

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the more money your family had.

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But there was still the question of whether Penny had ever married,

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or had any children of her own.

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This is something Roderick's father, Denzel was able to help out with.

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He knew that Penny had been married

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and was able to pass on the name of her ex-husband.

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They advised us that they got married in the Bahamas,

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which is clearly not an area of our normal research,

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looking for the original marriage.

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Tony now knew that Penny married Anthony Belchambers in 1980.

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They divorced 13 years later and the couple never had children.

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This meant that Tony and his team would have to go back

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to Penny's grandparents to try and find heirs.

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So we were readily able to identify,

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from the birth of the mother,

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who her parents were.

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The search was on for aunts and uncles who could lead to cousins.

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Penny's grandparents were Isabella and William Dyson.

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Although Tony couldn't find a record of their marriage,

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the census showed, that along with Penny's mother, Isabella,

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they had had three other children.

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One of these children was Penny's aunt, Roberta.

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She married three times, once before the Second World War,

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once after the war and then she married again.

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Roberta's second husband was a famed Polish fighter pilot

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called Witold Lanowski.

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Fellow pilot, Frank Kornicki, flew numerous missions with him

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as part of 317 Squadron.

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We worked primarily from Cornwall airfield

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and then from north-east of London.

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So, we flew together on all those missions,

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during that particular period.

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Penny's Uncle Witold was born in 1950 in the Polish city of Lvov.

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He was captivated by flight from a young age and after training

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as a pilot, he became an instructor at a military aviation school.

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But when war broke out, he was called into action.

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He travelled from Poland to France and then on to Britain

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where he learned to fly English planes.

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He then became part of a special Polish contingent who flew alongside the RAF.

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He was an excellent pilot.

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You have to know how to fly.

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You have to know your aircraft.

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What you can get in terms of speed, diving,

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turning, aerobatics.

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Above all, you must look.

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You really must look if you want to survive.

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Witold went on to fly Thunderbolts for the United States Air Force

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and in 1944, he shot down four enemy planes in a series of deadly combats.

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Despite this success, he was seen by some as a hot-headed

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and rebellious figure who had a tendency to question those in authority.

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He was a man of integrity

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and he had to say what he believed in.

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Out of the cockpit, Witold was a very popular figure.

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He was a very jolly chap.

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Full of beans...

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And jokes, good-looking.

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Certainly popular with the ladies.

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I rather liked him, he was a nice fellow,

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one of the boys.

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It was this fun-loving side of his character that attracted Roberta to Witold.

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They married in 1946 and had a son, Alex Grenfell.

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My mother would have met my father, who was Polish, Witold Lanowski.

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They met during the war and they got married just after the war,

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I think it was in 1946.

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I would of been five or six when my parents divorced,

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that's my mother divorced Witold Lanowski.

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Erm, so that would have been about 1953, something like that.

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My mother then remarried late in 1953 and I didn't

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see my...as I call him, my real father,

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Witold, for about 40 years after that.

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Basically, I was brought up by my mother and my stepfather in subsequent years.

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But as Roberta's son, Alex was Penny Belchamber's cousin

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and an heir to her £600,000 estate.

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We were able to contact Mr Grenfell,

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or the family of Mr Grenfell the same day that the matter came out.

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You know, for sufficient time to arrange an appointment

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and for one of our researchers to visit them in the West Country.

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When you get a call like this, and particularly in today's world

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when we are all plagued a little bit by sales calls and whatever on the phone,

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the feeling initially was these are just more sales calls

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trying to sell us something. Please go away and leave us alone

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and we'll get on with our lives. In reality, it wasn't that.

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Yeah, it's quite interesting...

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Alex was the first heir found

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and with a little encouragement from his wife, Carol,

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he was appointed administrator of his cousin's estate,

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a cousin he hadn't seen for over 40 years.

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Alex has no idea why Penny lost contact with his family,

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but he's hoping he may find some answers today.

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As the administrator of the estate, one of his roles is to visit

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Penny's flat and sort through some of her belongings.

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Penny died in October last year, so that's about eight months ago.

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As far as we know, people haven't been back in the apartment since then.

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Yeah, it's going to be and interesting day

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and full of surprises, perhaps.

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Coming up, Alex begins the slow process

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of piecing together the last 40 years of Penny's life.

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It all went very different, didn't it, after...after that.

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Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year,

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ensuring millions of pounds are paid out to the rightful heirs.

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Not every case can be cracked.

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In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates

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that have baffled the hunters and remain unclaimed.

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Could you be the heir they've been looking for?

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Estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years

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and each one could be worth anything from 5,000

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to many millions of pounds.

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It's money that could be destined for you.

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Today we're focusing on three names from the list.

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Are they relatives of yours.

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Preciosa da Assuncao, died aged 84 back in 2002.

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She was based in Colchester, Essex

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and her distinctive surname may jog someone's memory.

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If no heirs are found, her money will go to the government.

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Did you know Dennis Dickens?

0:24:510:24:54

He died in October 2007 in Coventry in the West Midlands.

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So far all efforts to trace his heirs have failed.

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What about Zofia Zuk?

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Her surname is of Russian origin and she died in 2002,

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aged 87, in Newton Abbot in Devon.

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If the names Preciosa da Assuncao, Dennis Dickens or Zofia Zuk

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mean anything to you, then you could have a fortune coming your way.

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Still to come...

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The hunt continues for heirs to David Roberts' £2 billion estate.

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I've still got some missing people.

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You've checked thoroughly, haven't you?

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In 2010, heir hunter, Tony Pledger, looked into the £600,000 estate

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of Penny Belchambers.

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She had died in Kensington without leaving a will

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and the search for her heirs

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had already uncovered the remarkable story

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of her uncle, Witold Lanowski, a famed Polish fighter pilot.

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Witold was married to Penny's Aunt Roberta Anderson

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and their son, Alex, is one of the heirs.

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He's also the administrator of Penny's estate

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and today he's come to see her flat

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with chartered surveyor, Andrew Fraser,

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a partner at heir hunting firm, Fraser & Fraser.

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They'll be trying to assess the value of the flat,

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as well as looking for important financial documents.

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Alex is understandably apprehensive about the visit.

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It's actually quite difficult to explain exactly how I feel.

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A degree of trepidation, degree of uncertainty.

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We're not really sure what we're going to find. I just feel nervous

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and slightly hesitant about what's going to be in the apartment.

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Alex was the first heir Tony contacted,

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but there were still many more to find.

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Enter Alex's wife, Carol, a keen genealogist

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who had already researched the family.

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Alex's grandfather William Lionel Dyson was born in Batley

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and, I believe at one stage, he was a divinity student

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and met his wife, Isabella. They were married in India.

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This explained why Tony hadn't been able to find Penny's grandparents marriage certificate.

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India wouldn't have been one of the first places

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that we would have searched for the marriage,

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but from information that she gave us

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we were able to get a copy of the marriage record

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and that tidied things up quite nicely.

0:27:350:27:40

As he continued the hunt for further heirs,

0:27:440:27:47

Tony turned his attention to Alex and Penny's uncles,

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Trevor and Lionel.

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Any children they'd had would also be heirs to Penny's £600,000 estate.

0:27:510:27:56

Initially, our initial research showed that there was an uncle...

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Well there was a cousin of the deceased called Lionel.

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Alex only ever talked about an Uncle Trevor,

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he never talked about an Uncle Lionel,

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except when I mentioned Lionel Walter.

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In fact, he did remember very briefly an Uncle Walter.

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He was a bit of the missing link

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when were trying to put together the family tree.

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The confusion came from the fact that Uncle Lionel

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was always known to Alex as Uncle Walter.

0:28:300:28:34

Once that was cleared up, Tony found a further three heirs.

0:28:340:28:38

That just left him with Uncle Trevor to find.

0:28:380:28:41

Carol was able to identify

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William Trevor Dyson's birth record.

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Alex's memories of Uncle William Trevor Dyson

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were that he was quite a character.

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I remember my parents talking about Uncle Trevor,

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and his interests.

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He was supposedly a medium,

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if you believe in spiritualist-type things,

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and he is supposed to have had a message one day,

0:29:080:29:11

he needs to pack that everything he's got in this country.

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I think he had the garage at that time up in Norfolk,

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and he decided to leave the country,

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and go to Swaziland.

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Why Swaziland? I have no idea.

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And there started a company, a general store.

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Ultimately, he became the Deputy High Sheriff of Swaziland,

0:29:300:29:34

for his sins.

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So, quite an interesting character.

0:29:350:29:37

Uncle Trevor had died in 1991,

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and Tony began researching his branch of the family.

0:29:420:29:46

If Trevor was still alive, or had any children, they would be heirs.

0:29:460:29:51

But then Tony made a surprising discovery.

0:29:510:29:54

He was adopted out of the family.

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If he did have any descendants - and we don't think he did -

0:29:570:30:00

they would not unfortunately be entitled in this case, anyway.

0:30:000:30:04

This discovery meant Penny's £600,000 estate

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would go to the heirs Tony had already found.

0:30:080:30:11

It could well be some life-changing amounts of money.

0:30:110:30:16

The majority of that money

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will come from the sale of Penny's valuable Kensington flat.

0:30:190:30:23

Heir Alex has travelled to London to visit the property,

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and sort through Penny's belongings.

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It is the first time anyone has been inside

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since the case was handed to the Treasury.

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Here we are.

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This is interesting. We didn't know what to expect.

0:30:380:30:42

A lot of paintings on the wall.

0:30:420:30:45

In need of a bit of decoration, but I guess that would be expected.

0:30:450:30:50

Here's a little kitchen, or kitchenette.

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I don't know what you'd call it.

0:30:520:30:53

Alex lost contact with Penny 40 years ago.

0:30:570:31:00

But now, he and chartered surveyor Andrew Fraser

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have the task of delving through her affairs.

0:31:030:31:07

I guess this was her bedroom.

0:31:070:31:10

Clothes everywhere. Shoes everywhere.

0:31:100:31:12

Just as it was left, eight months ago,

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or something like that.

0:31:180:31:20

I imagined something a bit more, perhaps, dusty.

0:31:200:31:24

But it is only eight months.

0:31:260:31:28

It feels as though somebody has just gone to work today.

0:31:280:31:34

And left some of their clothes around.

0:31:340:31:36

Perhaps somebody a bit untidy,

0:31:360:31:38

and would come back later in the day.

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So, really quite strange, in a way.

0:31:400:31:44

I expected it to be more of a mess and a muddle.

0:31:440:31:46

Dare I say it, cobwebs and things like that.

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I see a lot of papers around, and by going through them,

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we will pick up the whole of her financial history.

0:31:520:31:56

-It will be very helpful for the solicitors involved.

-Right.

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Whilst Andrew searches for important financial documents,

0:32:040:32:09

Alex is reviving the memory of his long-lost cousin.

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That's Penny, I'm sure it is.

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She is looking quite glamorous.

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Well-dressed, long blonde hair,

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swept back.

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I can remember her even when she was

0:32:230:32:26

18 or 20, that sort of age,

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having the long blonde hair.

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Very similar, but just a bit older.

0:32:310:32:35

Penny's marriage ended in 1993.

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This was followed by a bitter legal battle over her parents' will.

0:32:420:32:46

Although they had left a substantial estate,

0:32:460:32:50

Penny ended up with just £1,000, and her mother's jewellery.

0:32:500:32:54

It seems this experience affected her deeply.

0:32:540:32:57

She turned heavily to religion.

0:32:570:32:59

As he looks through her belongings,

0:32:590:33:02

Alex is starting to see how important

0:33:020:33:04

Penny's Christian faith became.

0:33:040:33:07

She seemed to have been living a good life, and enjoying life.

0:33:070:33:11

It all went very different, didn't it, after that.

0:33:110:33:16

It is very clear from what we have seen and heard,

0:33:200:33:22

that she became very religious in her later life.

0:33:220:33:27

This is a book that she wrote,

0:33:290:33:32

or some poems or verse that she wrote

0:33:320:33:35

and had published about 10 years ago.

0:33:350:33:38

There's quite a lot here.

0:33:380:33:41

I think most of these boxes are full up

0:33:410:33:42

with these inspired Christian verse books.

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I will keep one or two of those, but maybe not the whole lot.

0:33:470:33:50

Penny began to live her daily life through the Bible,

0:33:500:33:54

and she wrote about the many things in society

0:33:540:33:56

she believed to be wicked and evil.

0:33:560:33:58

She retreated away from the outside world,

0:33:580:34:01

and devoted a great deal of time to fighting a variety of legal battles.

0:34:010:34:06

But this was a far cry from the glamorous,

0:34:060:34:08

well-travelled lady Alex remembered.

0:34:080:34:11

I think it is very clear that everything was here.

0:34:130:34:16

She kept everything here. That was her life.

0:34:160:34:21

She couldn't travel and do things she did in the past.

0:34:210:34:24

Big change for her.

0:34:240:34:26

Penny's £600,000 estate will now pass to her long-lost family.

0:34:260:34:31

Although it seems her latter years were tinged with sadness,

0:34:310:34:35

Alex has learned that when Penny was younger,

0:34:350:34:38

she lived life to the full.

0:34:380:34:39

I think it has opened up my eyes.

0:34:390:34:43

Just seeing some of the photos from cruises,

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and from trips all over the world,

0:34:460:34:48

I feel I know more of her life in the intervening years,

0:34:480:34:53

so I feel I know the person better.

0:34:530:34:55

Armed with new information from the 1911 census,

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Peter Birchwood of Celtic Research

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has reopened the tantalising £2 million case of David Roberts.

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David died in 2005 in London, aged 75.

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By all accounts, he was an elusive and enigmatic figure.

0:35:210:35:24

The exciting new information that Peter has learned

0:35:260:35:29

has brought him to the Llandudno register office in North Wales.

0:35:290:35:33

So it should hopefully be that sub-district.

0:35:340:35:39

There is a possibility that David's grandfather, Hugh Roberts,

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may have had two more children with his second wife, Margaret.

0:35:420:35:45

But first, Peter needs to confirm he is looking at the right

0:35:450:35:49

Margaret and Hugh.

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Right, Margaret Roberts.

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-Mm.

-77 years. Widow of Hugh Roberts.

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Do you have an address for them at all?

0:36:000:36:03

-Uh, I did...

-Is it in Dolwyddelan?

0:36:030:36:06

That's the address, yes.

0:36:060:36:08

That's that then, isn't it?

0:36:080:36:10

Fantastic. Peter knows he's got the right couple.

0:36:110:36:15

He must now look to their children

0:36:170:36:19

to see if that leads to heirs to a £2 million fortune.

0:36:190:36:24

David's vast wealth was something his friends knew little about.

0:36:240:36:28

David was a private person. He kept himself to himself.

0:36:290:36:33

He had a few friends in the club

0:36:330:36:35

who he socialised with, played cards and shove ha'penny,

0:36:350:36:39

but otherwise he never spoke about his private life

0:36:390:36:42

or even very much about what he did for a living.

0:36:420:36:45

But David had actually had a very prestigious job.

0:36:470:36:51

He worked as an insurance broker

0:36:510:36:53

at the world-renowned Lloyds Of London,

0:36:530:36:56

where it's likely he had a high salary but high-pressure job.

0:36:560:37:00

In the late '80s, recession and large US legal claims

0:37:020:37:05

hit the company hard and it was probably a stressful time

0:37:050:37:10

for the people who worked there.

0:37:100:37:12

But could this explain why David Roberts

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seemed to suddenly turn his back on his career

0:37:170:37:20

or why he chose to live as a virtual recluse later in life?

0:37:200:37:24

He didn't have family.

0:37:260:37:27

I never saw family going to visit him

0:37:270:37:30

so I did assume that he just lived on his own

0:37:300:37:32

and didn't really know very many people.

0:37:320:37:35

I used to wonder how he supported himself.

0:37:350:37:37

But it's not just David whose life is shrouded in mystery -

0:37:410:37:44

his family are proving equally hard to fathom,

0:37:440:37:48

and in Wales, Peter's still waiting for that crucial nugget of information

0:37:480:37:52

that could lead him to an heir.

0:37:520:37:55

As you can see, it says, "Marriage, 12 years.

0:37:550:37:59

"Two children of this marriage.

0:37:590:38:03

"One still living."

0:38:030:38:05

That'd make her 43, wouldn't it?

0:38:050:38:10

It is a bit on the elderly side for having any children,

0:38:100:38:14

so whether Margaret had had some children with Hugh

0:38:140:38:17

before they got married...?

0:38:170:38:20

Hugh Roberts' first wife died in 1891.

0:38:200:38:24

He married Margaret eight years later in 1899

0:38:240:38:28

and the 1901 census doesn't show any new children in the household,

0:38:280:38:33

but Peter is hoping they went on to have children a few years later.

0:38:330:38:37

There might be a birth 1901 up to, let us say, 1905.

0:38:400:38:47

This is a bit of a long shot.

0:38:490:38:51

Peter's hoping that Margaret went on to have children

0:38:510:38:54

when she was in her mid-to-late 40s.

0:38:540:38:56

Hugh Roberts, Margaret Anne.

0:39:070:39:09

Bingo. They've found two potential births in the right period.

0:39:090:39:14

But they still can't be sure that these are the right children -

0:39:140:39:18

it's possible they could be the children of another couple

0:39:180:39:21

called Hugh and Margaret Roberts from the Dolwyddelan area.

0:39:210:39:25

With £2 million at stake, they need to be absolutely certain,

0:39:250:39:30

so Peter wants to cross-reference the births

0:39:300:39:33

with Margaret's maiden name, Jones.

0:39:330:39:36

Would it be possible to check to see if there is a marriage?

0:39:360:39:39

That should give us Margaret's maiden name,

0:39:390:39:44

would identify, or not, the two births that the registrar has found.

0:39:440:39:49

But it's not the result Peter was hoping for.

0:39:520:39:55

The maiden names on the records do not match.

0:39:550:39:58

So if this is right, then the births we found are incorrect, aren't they?

0:39:580:40:03

Because they are the children of a Jones, not an Evans.

0:40:030:40:07

This is a real blow for Peter.

0:40:090:40:12

He'd hoped the two children who appear on the 1911 census

0:40:120:40:15

for the offspring of Hugh and Margaret Roberts.

0:40:150:40:18

But it now seems they must have been children

0:40:190:40:22

from one of Margaret's previous relationships.

0:40:220:40:25

This means they are not blood relatives of Hugh Roberts

0:40:260:40:29

or his grandson, David.

0:40:290:40:32

I'm back to our mystery two members of the family

0:40:320:40:36

who just seemed to vanish and don't do anything.

0:40:360:40:39

So...

0:40:410:40:42

No easy answers on this one.

0:40:420:40:46

-Bye, now.

-Bye.

0:40:460:40:48

But Peter thinks he has a theory

0:40:490:40:51

as to why the two children on the census

0:40:510:40:53

were listed as being the children of Hugh and Margaret.

0:40:530:40:56

What probably happened was there was a misunderstanding

0:40:580:41:01

when the form was written out back in 1911,

0:41:010:41:04

that perhaps she thought it meant that she was to put down

0:41:040:41:09

any children that she herself had had in previous marriages.

0:41:090:41:14

That wasn't the case, but it's an easy mistake to make

0:41:140:41:17

and I think that's what happened.

0:41:170:41:18

But as long as there's a £2 million estate up for grabs,

0:41:200:41:23

Peter will never give up.

0:41:230:41:26

There is one last tantalising piece of evidence that can't be ignored.

0:41:260:41:30

David's aunt Elizabeth died in 1957

0:41:300:41:34

and research has shown that David and another blood relative

0:41:340:41:38

were beneficiaries in her will.

0:41:380:41:40

This other relative must have been a descendant

0:41:400:41:43

of either the missing uncle, Isaac, or the missing aunt, Catherine,

0:41:430:41:48

and if THEY had children, there's still a chance

0:41:480:41:51

that this case could be solved.

0:41:510:41:53

If we can solve this one - and I'm sure there's a solution somewhere,

0:41:530:41:59

because I know there was at least one other member of the family

0:41:590:42:02

still living in the 1950s, apart from the deceased -

0:42:020:42:06

if we can find these people,

0:42:060:42:09

this is something that is guaranteed to change their lives.

0:42:090:42:12

It's a massive amount of money

0:42:120:42:15

and we would really look forward to reuniting it with the right people.

0:42:150:42:21

Did you know David Roberts?

0:42:210:42:24

Could you have information about his family

0:42:240:42:27

or are you a descendant of his aunt, Catherine Jane Roberts,

0:42:270:42:32

or his uncle, Isaac Roberts?

0:42:320:42:34

If you are, you could be the rightful heir

0:42:340:42:37

to a £2 million fortune.

0:42:370:42:40

If you would like advice about building your family tree

0:42:430:42:46

or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk.

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