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Today, the heir hunters are looking into an estate | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
worth a possible £80,000. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Across the UK, the hunt is on for the relatives | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
who could be in line for a windfall. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Could someone be knocking at your door? | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
On today's show, the heir hunters take a massive risk | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
on an estate that may have debts attached. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
The work we do is a big gamble, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
cos we don't know the value of the estate. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
And the team uncover the story of a courageous lady who braved bombs | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
and blazes to serve her country during the Second World War. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
It was a dangerous job. You would be out in the raids, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
subject to the same kind of risks that the men were. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
where beneficiaries have not yet been found. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
Could a windfall be coming your way? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Every year in the UK, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
If no relatives are found, then any money that's left behind | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
will go to the government. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
There are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
They're called heir hunters and they make it their business | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
to track down missing relatives and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I make sure that the government doesn't seize assets | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
which do not belong to them. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
It's 7am on a Thursday morning, and staff at Fraser & Fraser, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
the UK's largest heir hunting firm, are already hard at work. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
The Treasury have just published their list of people | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
who've died without leaving a will. The team are poring over the names. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
Today's list is particularly lengthy. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Absolutely huge list for us today. I can't work them all. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
There's 38 on the list. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
But one case has caught partner Neil's attention. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
The only case we're looking at actively at the moment | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and drawing up trees is a case called Luckarift. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
The reason we're doing that is | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
we were able to find the deceased was a company director at one time. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
Heir hunters are paid a percentage of an estate's final value. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
So there must be enough money in the case for them to cover costs | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
and hopefully make a profit. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
A company director is likely to have had high earning power | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
and could have left a substantial sum of money. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
So Neil is hopeful this will be a valuable estate. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Edward Luckarift died on 29th March 2010 in North Wales. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
He was 90 years old. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
He spent the last years of his life | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
in the small Welsh seaside resort of Penmaenmawr, and it was here | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
that he struck up a friendship with fireman Harry Colecliffe. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
Harry met Edward by chance | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
when he was conducting a training exercise in a scrapyard. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
Somebody came running into the scrapyard, and said, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
"There's an elderly gentleman on the floor outside, near the road." | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
We got the crew together, went out to render first aid | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
and phoned an ambulance. And that was Edward. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
And just as he was getting into the ambulance, he handed me some keys | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
and said, "Could you look after my dog?" And off he went. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
That was the first time I met Edward. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
It was also the beginning of a strong friendship, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
as Harry started to visit Edward in hospital. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
I was stuck with his dog, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
so I went to find out how long he'd be in hospital, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and it built up a friendship. He was a real gentleman. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
Quite a wit about him. He had so many interesting little stories. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
So you sat there and you didn't actually say a word! | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
All you would say is, "Oh, what happened then?" | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Off he'd go again and tell you another part of the story! | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
In the office, Neil has tracked down Edward's address, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
but he's also discovered a financial record | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
which suggests there may be debts on this estate. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
That address has got a caution on...by a bankruptcy firm, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:46 | |
which doesn't sound that good, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
but I think it's because he probably owned it at some time. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
Taking on a case where the deceased has filed for bankruptcy is risky. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
If there's no money in the estate, the team could end up | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
working for no reward. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
But if Edward owned the property he lived in, in Wales, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
it could be worth £80,000. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
So Neil thinks it's a risk worth taking. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
There are very few people with the surname Luckarift in Britain. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
The team have less names to work with | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
and a higher chance of finding the right family. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
So research gets off to a flying start, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and by 8am, Neil thinks he's found Edward's paternal grandparents. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
Frederick Alfred, he's 50, so was born in 1860. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Anywhere in particular? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Er, Jersey. This one here, wife is Carterelle. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
They were married circa 1883 and they had three children. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
The father's side of the family appear to be | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
based in Jersey in the Channel Islands. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Neil believes Edward's paternal grandparents | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
were Frederick and Carterelle Luckarift. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
They had three children - | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Kathleen, Evelyn and Frederick, who is Edward's father. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Kathleen and Evelyn would be Edward's paternal aunts. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
And if they had any living children, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
they could be heirs to Edward's estate. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
At the moment, I'm looking at the Evelyn stem. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
She's married to a Nightscale, but I've just found her death. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
She's died as Nightscales. Even though she's changed the name slightly, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
she still hasn't had any children. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
So looks like it's probably a dead stem, unless she adopted someone. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
If Evelyn has had no children, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
the only remaining hope on the father's side | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
is Edward's aunt Kathleen, but Gareth is having trouble tracking her down. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:43 | |
All we know is that she's born around 1889, in Jersey, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
and living in 1911 in Salford. Other than that, I'm not finding anything. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Most likely scenario is she's gone back to Jersey. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
The team still don't know whether there's any money in this estate, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
so all their hard work could end up being for nothing. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
But it's still only 8.30 and, although they've hit a dead end | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
on the father's side, on the mother's side, they're racing ahead. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
So we've got Ernest Cox, he's head. He's male. Born 1862. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
He's been married for 16 years. Wife, white female, born December... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
1865. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
1865. She's married. OK, so now we know, that on the mother's side, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
there's only her and her brother. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
Tony has discovered that Edward's maternal grandparents, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
Ernest Gresley Cox and Amelie, only had two children - | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Edward's mother Ernestine and her brother, Edward. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Edward Gresley Cox was born in 1891, which would make him 23 | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
at the outbreak of the First World War. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
So Neil wonders whether there might be an army record for him. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
British Army. Is he old enough for the Army? Yes. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
His hunch proves correct. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
He was a Flight Lieutenant. General... | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
No, he'd be in the Royal Flying Corps, wouldn't he? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
He is, he's in the Royal Flying Corps. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
From an old army record, Neil has discovered that Edward Luckarift's | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
uncle, Edward Gresley Cox, fought for his country in World War I. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
He trained as a pilot and served as Second Lieutenant | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
in the Royal Flying Corps from 1917 to 1918. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
The Royal Flying Corps is a separate entity of the British Army. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
It was formed in 1912. They'd been going about two years before | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
the First War started. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
The First World War introduced a new form of battleground. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
Whereas before, wars were fought on land and sea, the development | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
of the aeroplane meant the battle could also be taken to the skies. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
And this created a new kind of hero. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Brave young aviators prepared to risk their lives in the skies | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
far above the battlefields. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
It certainly attracted people with more of a spirit of adventure, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
and many chaps I met were certainly slightly different. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
They had this sense of adventure. Aviation attracted people like this. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
During the First World War, Edward Gresley Cox was stationed | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
out in Salonika in Greece, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
where the initial role of the British Army was to help the Serbs | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
who were being attacked by German, Austro-Hungarian | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and Bulgarian forces. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
The Royal Flying Corps provided air support and reconnaissance. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
But being so far removed from front line action had its disadvantages. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
The other theatres where the British Army fought were known | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
as the sideshows, sort of not the main event, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
and any decent equipment was always held back for operations | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
on the Western Front - | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
Passchendaele, Arras and the Somme. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
These other theatres, and Salonika in particular, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
really got only the poor or obsolete equipment | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
which wasn't needed on the Western Front. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
These obsolete aircraft were no match | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
for the modern German machines, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
which were faster and much more effective in battle. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
The British response to this problem was to borrow some fighters | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
from the French air force. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
But these planes also came with built-in problems. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
The aeroplanes they borrowed off the French was the Nieuport Scout, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
a standard fighter in the French Air Service. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
It was equipped with a rotary engine. These were pretty unreliable | 0:10:36 | 0:10:42 | |
and could be fickle, so engine failures were not infrequent. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
It was unfortunately while flying one of these aircraft | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
that Edward Gresley Cox died. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
On February 22nd, 1918, he and another pilot | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
in another French Nieuport Scout | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
went out on a reconnaissance mission. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Unfortunately, Gresley Cox had an engine failure, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
and while trying to put the aircraft down on suitable terrain, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
crashed and was killed. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Back in the office, Neil has just discovered | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
this tragic turn of events. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Killed. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
That's important. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
So he died 22nd February, '18. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
War records are a vital tool in genealogy, providing heir hunters | 0:11:32 | 0:11:39 | |
with valuable clues about people's lives and family histories. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Most soldiers were required to make a will before going into combat. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
And it doesn't take Tony long to find one for Edward Gresley Cox. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
This is the probate for the uncle of the deceased, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
who was killed in the Royal Flying Corps in 1918. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Just to say that he's left £141 in 1918. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
The team must establish who Edward Gresley Cox left his money to. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
Could he have left it to a wife and children? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
If he did have children and they're still alive, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
they would be cousins of Edward Luckarift's and heirs to his estate, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
an estate whose value the team have yet to discover. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Coming up... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Neil has taken a risk in pursuing this estate. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
The work we do is one big gamble, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
cos we don't know the value of the estate. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
And he's about to find out whether that gamble has paid off. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:38 | |
Heir hunting cases can come from a variety of different sources. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
Most are published on the Treasury list, but some are referred | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
by individuals or solicitors acting on their behalf. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
This was the case with Diana Paine. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
She lived an exciting and glamorous life, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
surrounded by people who loved her. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
She was always full of life and game to do anything at all. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
But for some reason, she decided not to leave a will. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
Diana died on 14th April 2010, in Langton Green near Tunbridge Wells. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:15 | |
She was 91 years old. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
She had spent the last 18 years of her life with her companion, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
Ernest Armstrong, who she met via a lonely hearts advert in a magazine. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
My wife died in 1991, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and, like a lot of men, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
not knowing what to do with themselves, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
I put the advert into the magazine, and Diana got in touch with me. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
Both of us were looking for one thing and one thing only, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
and that was companionship. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
You can't wander round a house all day long looking at pictures. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
You have to do something. We were very lucky. We clicked right away. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
Diana left an estate worth £20,000, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
but she died without leaving a will. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I don't know why she didn't make a will. I've no idea. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Whether simply because she didn't have any relations as such, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
or any nephews or nieces or anything like that, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
to whom the money would have gone. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Keen to find out whether Diana did have any family, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
and thus prevent her money going straight to the government, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Ernest contacted a firm of solicitors. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
They referred the case to the heir hunters. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
We were instructed by the solicitors. They knew we could act quickly | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and try to trace the next of kin. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
There was some urgency to get this case tied up. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
Diana had been living in rented accommodation, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
and until an heir was found who could legally cancel the rental | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
agreement, rent would continue to be paid out of her estate. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
So the pressure was on case manager Dave Slee to find some heirs | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
before the money ran out. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
At the start, the only information Dave had to go on was that Diana had once been married to a Harry Paine. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:10 | |
His first step was therefore to obtain a marriage certificate. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
The information on the marriage certificate confirmed | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
that the deceased in fact had been married previously and that marriage had ended in divorce. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:25 | |
I was then able to find the deceased's first marriage to a Mr Salmon, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
which was about six years prior to her second marriage. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Diana married her first husband John Griffith Salmon in 1940, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
but divorced him some time during the Second World War. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
She went on to marry Harry Paine in 1946, and stayed with him until his death some 40 years later. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:49 | |
But sadly neither of these marriages produced any children, which was a cause of great sadness to Diana. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:57 | |
She certainly would have loved to have had a family of her own, which she unfortunately couldn't have. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
Even Cocker Spaniels don't make up for the lack of children. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
The fact that Diana had had no children | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
meant Dave would have to cast the net wider in his search for heirs. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
He knew from Diana's marriage certificates that her maiden name was Vaughan-Fowler. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
But this initially gave him cause for concern. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
I'm never happy researching double-barrelled surnames. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
They're often the product of people with delusions of grandeur and are made-up names. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
But in Diana's case, the name was genuine. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
She was born as Vaughan-Fowler and even her grandfather was born as Vaughan-Fowler | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
so it was a name that had gone back in history with the family. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Diana was born in West Sussex in 1919, the daughter of Alfred Vaughan-Fowler and Mabel Potter. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:52 | |
She grew up and went to school in Tunbridge Wells and initially worked as a shorthand typist. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
But when the Second World War started, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
her life was to change dramatically, as all women of working age were conscripted into the war effort. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:07 | |
There were an awful lot of jobs | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
that needed to be done and we just didn't have the people to do them | 0:17:09 | 0:17:15 | |
and so uniquely in our history, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
the entire female population was conscripted and they volunteered for all sorts of jobs. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
Before the war started, Diana's father had been a car salesman and he had taught her how to drive. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:30 | |
It was quite unusual for women to drive at the time. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
The situation where, as happened with Diana, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
the fact that her father was in his line of work | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
meant that it would be pretty easy for her to learn to drive. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
Generally, middle-class women might be the ones who learnt to drive. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Diana volunteered to work as a driver for the National Fire Service. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
During the war, the demands on the fire service increased dramatically, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
as the Luftwaffe dropped bombs and incendiary devices on London and nearby towns. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
And as demand for personnel increased, so the roles of women began to change. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
Initially women had a very limited range of roles that they were offered. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
There would be clerical and telephone work on switchboards. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
It expanded and expanded. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Initially, what was perceived as something where women would work behind the dangerous stuff, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
very quickly, women were out as much as the men in the raids. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
Working for the fire service during the raids brought women like Diana into constant danger. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:44 | |
It was a dangerous job. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
There's no two ways about it. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
You would be out in the raids and subject to the same kind of risks that the men were. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:55 | |
The Germans learned when they were bombing cities | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
that part of the tactics they evolved was that you would start fires through incendiaries | 0:19:02 | 0:19:10 | |
and then once the fires were started, subsequent bombers would actually attack those fires | 0:19:10 | 0:19:16 | |
and part of it would be about disrupting and targeting the services | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
like the fire services and the ambulance services. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Diana was based in Tunbridge Wells and was the driver for the chief of the Tunbridge Wells Fire Brigade. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:34 | |
Tunbridge Wells was never subject to the intense bombardment that London suffered, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
but the job would still have involved certain risks. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
It was a brave job for a woman to do at the time, and it gave Diana | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
a new-found status that she hadn't enjoyed before the war. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
She was very proud. She had a status as an officer in the fire service. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:57 | |
She really enjoyed it very much. She enjoyed driving a lot. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
It was also while working in the fire service that Diana met her second husband, Harry Paine. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:08 | |
At the end of the war, her husband, who had been in the Navy, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
joined the fire service | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
and that is when they met up and got married in 1946. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Harry had been injured during the war and he suffered from ill health throughout their marriage. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
But Diana was devoted to him and she looked after him until his death 40 years later. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
Having established that Diana and her husband had no children, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
Dave's next step was to track down any surviving siblings. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
Because we are dealing with a hyphenated surname, the research was fairly straightforward | 0:20:41 | 0:20:48 | |
in being able to establish that the deceased had two siblings, one of whom died as an infant | 0:20:48 | 0:20:55 | |
and the other sibling, whose name was Joan, she died as a spinster. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
This meant that Diana had no nieces or nephews, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
and Dave would have to expand the search to find any surviving heirs. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
Our next stage is to try and trace paternal and maternal family and their descendants. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:15 | |
But while Diana's father's name Vaughan-Fowler was easy to research, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
simply because there aren't that many hyphenated Vaughan-Fowlers in Britain, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
investigating Diana's mother's side would prove much more difficult. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
I knew that the research on the maternal family, of the surname Potter, was likely to be far harder | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
than researching the hyphenated Vaughan-Fowler name of the paternal family. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:42 | |
Coming up, Diana's story proves an inspiration to the family member she's never met. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
The impression I'm getting is she was quite a strong woman which I find interesting and encouraging. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:55 | |
Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year and millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
But a handful of cases have foxed the heir hunters and remain unsolved. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Could you be the beneficiaries they've been searching for? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Could you be in line to inherit a lump sum worth hundreds, thousands or even millions of pounds? | 0:22:14 | 0:22:22 | |
Estates stay on the list for up to 30 years and today we're focusing on three names. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Are they relatives of yours? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
Winifred Dewar died in November 2000 in Newcastle upon Tyne. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
She was 75 years old. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
If no heirs are found, her money will go to the Government. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Did you know Alan John Inglis from Walworth in London? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
He died in December 2007. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
His family may originally have come from Galashiels on the Scottish Borders. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
But so far no relatives have been traced. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Also on our list is Mary Ursula Franklen-Evans, who died in Fareham in Hampshire in July 2004. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:08 | |
Franklen-Evans is a very rare surname, which should make it easier to track down heirs. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:14 | |
But so far, no-one has come forward to claim her estate. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
If the names Winifred Dewar, Alan John Inglis or Mary Ursula Franklen-Evans mean anything to you, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:24 | |
or someone you know, an unexpected windfall could be coming your way. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
Heir hunters Fraser and Fraser are investigating the case of Edward Luckarift. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
He died in North Wales in March 2010 without leaving a will. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
He owned a property worth £80,000. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
But the team have also discovered that he may have had debts. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
Neil has therefore taken a calculated risk in pursuing the case. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
If there's no money in the estate, the team will not get paid. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
But if the value of the property has remained intact, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and not been eaten into by debts, it could be a fairly valuable estate. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
The team have been researching the mother's side of the family | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
and have discovered an uncle, Edward Gresley Cox. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
He died in a flying accident in 1918 and he left a will. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
The team wondered whether he might have had a wife and children. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:27 | |
Amelie Denise Gresley Cox, widow. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-Widow? -Yeah. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
But this turns out not to be the case. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
He's left a grant, letters of administration, probably to his mother. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
The fact he's left letters of administration to his mother rather implies he wasn't married. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:48 | |
It's therefore some sense to imply he didn't have any children. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Edward Gresley Cox is the only maternal uncle of Edward Luckarift. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
If he had no children, this means there are no heirs on the mother's side of the family. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
So the team's only remaining hope of finding an heir is to go back to the father's side. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
They've established that Edward's paternal aunt Evelyn had no children. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
So they must now try to find some records for Edward's paternal aunt Kathleen. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
We've only got one outstanding person to find - Kathleen - | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
and at the moment we can't find anything for her at all. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
However we're starting to think that maybe she's died a spinster. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
The most likely scenario is that Kathleen has gone back to Jersey. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Jersey is quite difficult for us to research, so we'll have to get someone there to do the research. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
Although most of Edward's family hailed from Jersey, he himself was born in Salford near Manchester. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:43 | |
But he was a free spirit who never stayed in one place for long. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
Harry Colecliffe only knew Edward during the last five years of his life. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
But in that time Edward regaled him with stories of an exciting career which took him across the Atlantic | 0:25:52 | 0:25:58 | |
and brought him into contact with all sorts of interesting people. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
He started off as a journalist with the Royal Navy, that would have been 1944 to '45. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:09 | |
In 1946 the Canadians were sent back to Canada after the war | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
and what the Navy wanted was somebody to go with the troops, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
find out a little bit about them and write it in some form of newsletter to send back. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:30 | |
He had to go from ship to ship and the only way they could do it was to string a line across, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
put him in a bosun's chair and swing him across. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
He said it was terrifying, but he did it. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
After he left the navy, Edward wanted to travel around America. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
So a chance meeting with a rather unusual person seemed like the answer to his prayers. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
He was a guy called Karl Wickman. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
He was the guy who owned Greyhound Buses | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
and he offered Edward a job. He gave him a wad of money to start with | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
without even giving him a job, sent him down to Fort Lauderdale, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:09 | |
waited down there for him to come, finally turned up | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
and said, "Right, here's your job, go around all of the Greyhound stations | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
"and write a little piece on that station for the newsletter." And he did that for 12 months. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:24 | |
With his wanderlust satisfied, Edward then returned to Britain. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Having enjoyed his experience of writing in the US, he decided to continue along this career path, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
and he got a job writing radio plays for the BBC. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
He did show me files that he had that were all little plays he'd written | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
and apparently they were actually used on radio at that time. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
Soon after this, he landed an extremely prestigious job | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
as a writer on a cutting-edge new television series. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
# That was the week that was... # | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
That Was The Week That Was was broadcast on the BBC in 1962 and 1963. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:07 | |
Why in fact has Mr Macmillan, the Prime Minister, retired? | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
I've done two series on the trot and my agent says he doesn't want me to be typecast. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
# That was the week that was... # | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Edward was in the company of some great comedy writers, including John Cleese, Peter Cook and Eric Sykes. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:26 | |
And the show was groundbreaking in the way it poked fun at the establishment. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
We pledge ourselves to ensure that pensioners continue to share | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
in the good things that a steadily expanding economy will bring. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
A million pensioners a week will have to undergo | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
the means test of national assistance in order to avoid starvation. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
They're not laughing back in the office | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
where the search for heirs is becoming increasingly frustrating. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
They've established that there are no heirs on the mother's side of the family, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
as Edward's only maternal uncle died without having any children. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
On the father's side, they've ruled out Edward's Aunt Evelyn, who also had no offspring. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:08 | |
So it looks like it's probably a dead stem. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
So their only remaining hope of finding an heir is through Edward's Aunt Kathleen. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
If she has had children, they would be first cousins | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
of Edward's and possible beneficiaries to his estate. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
But Neil has taken a huge risk on this case. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
A bankruptcy notice that he discovered rang alarm bells early on. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
But Neil believes that Edward owned his £80,000 property, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
and if its value has remained intact, there could still be money in the estate. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
Take a seat, sit down and read this. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
It's early afternoon, and the team have finally found a record for Edward's paternal aunt, Kathleen. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:50 | |
This was one last stem which... we haven't been able to find a marriage for, but we think | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
we've found a death for, and if that death is right, then there's probably children off that. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
But Neil has also just discovered the true value of the estate, and it's not looking good. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:06 | |
We think the property is worth £80,000 and we've been informed | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
that there are debts in the estate exceeding the £80,000. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:16 | |
So it is probably going to be an insolvent estate. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
This was the last thing they wanted to hear, especially when they were so close to tracking down heirs. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:26 | |
Neil took a gamble in pursuing this case. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
And he now has no choice but to pull the plug. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
Sometimes the feelings we get and our ideas are proved totally wrong. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:39 | |
Luckarift has been one of those cases. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
We looked at it, because we thought it was going to be quite easy. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Then we found the reference to the deceased being a director of a company. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:50 | |
As inquiries have come in, sometimes values on estates can go up and up and up. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
Other times, they go down and down and lead to nothing. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
This is one of those cases, so it is a bit of a no-hoper for us. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
Luckily we found out early enough where it hasn't cost us too much. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Edward Luckarift was a man who lived for the moment, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
and it's perhaps not surprising that he didn't leave any money. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
If you even went to his house, the one thing he wasn't was materialistic. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
It didn't really bother him at all that he didn't have a lot of material things. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
He spent the last years of his life looking after his beloved dog, and playing and watching cricket. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
He loved his cricket. He travelled down to Lord's, watched the cricket down there. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
Played up here in Wales. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
In his house at this moment is still his cricket gear in a cricket bag down in the cellar. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:47 | |
I think, if there's anything I would remember him by, it was his contentment. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
He had his dog, he had his cricket | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
and he had his memories and his writing. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
As long as he had what he had, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
that was enough. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
I think, well, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
you know, you can't beat that as a lesson in life, really. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
In April 2010, the heir hunters were investigating the estate of Diana Paine. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
She died near Tunbridge Wells, leaving an estate worth £20,000. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:31 | |
Heir hunter Dave Slee had established that she had | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
no children, and no surviving siblings or nieces and nephews. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
So the search was on for aunts, uncles and cousins, who could be heirs to Diana's estate. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:45 | |
On the father's side, the team had an easy name to work with, Vaughan-Fowler. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:51 | |
There weren't many hyphenated Vaughan-Fowlers in the UK, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
so Dave was quickly able to pinpoint the family. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
I found her father's birth and I was able to establish that he had two siblings, he had two siblings, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:04 | |
one died a bachelor and one was married and had descendants, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
so eventually we were able to locate eight paternal beneficiaries | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
who would be entitled in the estate. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
So far, research had been exceptionally speedy. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Dave would now write to these beneficiaries to determine their exact entitlement to Diana's estate. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
But the search wasn't over yet. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
In fact, the hard graft was only just beginning. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Dave now had to turn his attention to the mother's side of the family. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
The maternal family... I knew it would be a lot harder because the surname was Potter. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
There are thousands of people with the surname Potter in Britain, so Dave had his work cut out. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
But after hours of painstaking research, he was finally able to find a record for Diana's mother. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:51 | |
I located the birth of the deceased mother, Mabel Potter, in Brighton, and she was the daughter | 0:33:51 | 0:33:58 | |
of the unusually named Harding Potter, and her mother was Maria, formerly Bryant. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:04 | |
The next stage was to see if Diana's mother had any siblings. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
Reviewing the census returns, we were able to establish that Harding Potter and Maria Bryant | 0:34:09 | 0:34:16 | |
had six children including the deceased's mother. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Diana's maternal grandparents, Harding Potter and Maria Bryant, married in 1862 in London. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:26 | |
They had six children - Ada, Elizabeth, Kate, Florence, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
Ethel and Mabel, Diana's mother. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
If any of Diana's five aunts had children, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
they would be first cousins of Diana's. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
And if any of them were still alive, they could be heirs to her estate. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
The pressure was now on Dave to track them down. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
When the Second World War ended, Diana settled into married life with her husband, Harry. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:53 | |
But the pioneering spirit she'd shown in her work for the National Fire Service hadn't diminished. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
At a time when most women were content to be stay-at-home wives and mothers, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
Diana took her first step towards becoming a successful business woman. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
She decided that she was going to take over the reins | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
and she bought this shop in Battle. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
The shop was a women's clothing boutique, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
and Diana threw herself into the running of the place with gusto. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
She proceeded to smarten the place up | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
and bring it up to date. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
For 25 years, she ran this shop in Battle. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
She went on to open two more branches in nearby towns | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
and she even ran fashion shows two or three times a year. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
She got all her own staff and one or two other ladies | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
to make a fashion show and she did very well. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
The show was run for one reason only and that was for the Guide Dogs for the Blind. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:54 | |
Diana was tireless in her work for charity, and her clothing business became a great success. | 0:35:54 | 0:36:00 | |
But she was also still caring for her husband, Harry. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
He had been injured during the war, and his condition deteriorated as time went on. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:10 | |
When her husband started to get really ill, she gave up the shops, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
and they came to live at Speldhurst and they lived in Speldhurst for quite a few years, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:22 | |
until her husband died. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Diana had looked after Harry for nearly 40 years, and when he died, she was all alone. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:32 | |
She never spoke of her family and believed she had none. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
But as Dave Slee was about to discover, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
she did actually have a whole set of relatives not a million miles away. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:45 | |
Dave had established that Diana's mother had five sisters | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
and he was trying to find out whether they'd had children. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
He was able to discount two of the sisters straightaway. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
Two maternal aunts, Ada and Elizabeth... we established both died as minors. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:02 | |
But Kate, Florence and Ethel had all married and had children. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
If these children were still alive, they would be first cousins of Diana's and heirs to her estate. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
However, it soon became apparent that most of these cousins were born | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
around the turn of the century and had already passed away. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
All except one. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
The first maternal where we were able to locate | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
was a son of Ethel Potter. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
She married a Mr Pearson, and her son, Bernard, was in fact the only first cousin | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
who'd survived the deceased. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Dave wrote to Bernard, who signed an agreement with the company. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
Finally, the team had their first maternal heir. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
OK, let's recap. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
Having established that Diana's other cousins were no longer alive, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
Dave's next task was to look for their descendants. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Diana's Aunt Kate had had three children - Mabel, Kate and Gladys. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
I knew that the deceased's cousin Mabel, who was born in 1898, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
was likely to be deceased, so I firstly looked for her marriage, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
and she married a Walter Wyatt, and then I undertook the search to see if she had any children. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:20 | |
Mabel's marriage to Mr Wyatt... we established that there were three children born to that marriage - | 0:38:20 | 0:38:26 | |
two females and one male. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Dave discovered that the son had passed away, so he wrote to the two daughters. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
I informed them that they would be entitled in the estate, and they informed me | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
that their brother married and he had children, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
who are cousins twice removed to the deceased. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Diana's cousin Mabel had three children - two daughters and a son, Walter. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:49 | |
Walter had passed away in 2003, but Dave discovered that he had four children. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
He managed to find an address for the daughter, Elizabeth, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
and he wrote to her. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
His letter came as a big surprise. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
When I first got the letter from Frasers, I think it was back in May, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
I was quite surprised. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
It just mentions that you may be the heir to someone who's died, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
and you have no idea who it might be. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
But Liz and her brothers were curious to find out more, so they wrote back to the company. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:22 | |
You're asked for lots of details about other family members - names, addresses, dates of birth. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:28 | |
I think it was as a result of sending that in | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
I got a letter back saying... regards the estate of Diana Ferelyth Paine. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:37 | |
Liz had never heard of Diana. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
She was the cousin of Liz's grandmother, so two generations removed from Liz herself. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
But she was fascinated to hear about this distant relative. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
The impression I am getting is she was quite a strong woman, which I find interesting and encouraging. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:56 | |
I have heard that she was a driver for the fire brigade or something like that during the war. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:02 | |
I've heard she had businesses. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
It is fascinating to find out little bits about Diana. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Someone that happens to be related to you but you've never met. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Liz and her brothers signed with the company, who, in return for an agreed percentage, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
would help them claim their share of Diana's estate. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
Receiving money from someone she didn't know was a strange experience for Liz. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
One of my daughters did mention this is a bit weird, you know - | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
why should you get money from someone you've never known in their lifetime? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
And I suppose that does seem very strange, in a way. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
But the opportunity to find out more about her family was priceless. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
I've been thinking a lot about why I haven't heard about Diana. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
I can't remember ever asking my dad, which I'm regretting now and thinking | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
maybe he never shared it, maybe he never knew it. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
I think the whole experience has been fascinating, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
and it is very interesting to find out more and more about your family. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
The team had invested many hours in this case and they had finally tracked down all the heirs. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:07 | |
On the maternal family, I was able to establish | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
that there was one cousin, unfortunately now deceased, entitled, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
and there are nine other cousins once removed or twice removed. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
So our research has now concluded that there are 18 heirs entitled to share in Diana's estate. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:27 | |
The final value of the estate was confirmed to be £20,000. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
This would be shared between ten heirs on the mother's side | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
of the family and eight heirs on the father's side. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
From our point of view, the research went very well. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
It was nice to be able to find the heirs quickly for the solicitor's point of view. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:49 | |
A nice tidy estate for us to research. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Although she never got to know her extended family, Diana wasn't lonely in later life. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:58 | |
She was lucky enough to find love third time around with Ernest. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
And they travelled the country together, providing friendship and companionship for one another. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
I was only looking for somebody who may have had the same outlook in life and looking | 0:42:07 | 0:42:14 | |
forward to a little bit of enjoyment in the last years of our lives. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
I wasn't expecting to hit the nail on the head first time round. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
But I was very lucky in finding Diana. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
It was just we enjoyed being with each other all the time | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
and we didn't have to think about, what about a round-the-world cruise? That didn't come into it at all. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:39 | |
We didn't have to have very expensive things to enjoy life together. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
If you would like advice about building your family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 |