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The heir hunters are working on a tricky case worth an estimated £80,000. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
'Change of plan, we need you to go towards the Northeast of England.' | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
They're in a race against time to find relatives who have no idea they're in line for a windfall. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:18 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
On today's show: | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
This is all wrong. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
A surprisingly common surname in one postcode has the heir hunters baffled. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
Also, there's 10 a penny, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
so we're struggling, basically. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Will they be able to find the rightful heirs to the estate? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
And the heir hunters help to unravel the secrets of a German PoW. | 0:00:54 | 0:01:00 | |
Anybody asked about the war, he wouldn't talk about it. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
He practically went through hell. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
where beneficiaries still need to be found. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
Every year in the UK, an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:28 | |
If no relatives are found, any money that's left behind will go to | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
the Government. Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:38 | |
But there are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
They're called heir hunters and they make it their business to track down | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
missing relatives and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
I love the fact that I can put families back together, I can reunite people. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
I can tell them secret histories about | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
their own family which they don't know about themselves. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
In London, it's action stations at Britain's largest heir-hunting firm. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
Last night, the Treasury issued a new list of unclaimed estates, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
and the team at Fraser & Fraser are raring to go. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Walton... | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
One entry named Cecil Walton looks promising, but this morning there's a spanner in the works. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:32 | |
Hello, phone's not working... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
At the moment, our internet's gone down. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
With the phone lines down, other heir-hunting companies will have got a head start. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
This could cost them business. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Awful start to the morning. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Because we're now probably about... | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
20 minutes... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
at least behind the competition. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Phones should be up and running, and so should the internet. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
After a frustrating delay, the phone lines are finally up and running, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and now it's a race to find a case they can work. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Cecil James Walton. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
I found a marriage in June 1978 in Maidstone. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
The Treasury's list is a major source of work for heir hunters. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
It shows the names of people who have died without leaving a will and have no known relatives. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
But it doesn't show any other details, or how much money they've left. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
Hello, good morning. I do apologise for troubling you. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I'm making some inquiries about a gentleman who I believe was your neighbour, Mr Cecil Walton. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
But now the team's found a possible address for Cecil Walton. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Can a neighbour shed some light? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Was that his own property? We think he owned... | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
It was his own property, yeah. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Did he ever mentioned to you about having brothers or sisters or any family members? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
Bye-bye, now. Bye-bye. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
OK, that's good news. It would appear the deceased | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
had no children from his marriage to Violet, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
who passed away in 2000. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
It's the lead they need. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
They've confirmed Cecil's address is in a village called Waterhouses near Durham. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
They know he owned his own home and have estimated it's worth £80,000. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
The team now know they have an estate worth pursuing. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
We're working the case of Cecil James Walton... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
who died on 30th December 2009. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
We know that he owned the property, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
we know there's a mortgage on it, might be an equity release, not sure. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
Anyway, it looks like there's some value there, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
so we're attempting to find the beneficiaries at the moment. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
Cecil James Walton died in Durham, where he'd lived for over 20 years. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:53 | |
Cecil was a widower and was a popular local figure, as pub landlord Barry Sims remembers. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
He used to come in | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
and was always very tidy, well shaven... never saw him without a shave. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:08 | |
Suit... a tie or a blazer. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Even in his spare time, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
he always was immaculately dressed. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
81-year-old Cecil was an avid cricket fan. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
He'd often be found watching a match at his local ground, Chester-le-Street. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
He also spent his spare time at the village pub, and as a retired accountant, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
he was happy to share his financial know-how with friends and regulars. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
He was my mentor, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
always keeping me right on different issues. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
He was very good to listen to and talk to. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
Back at the office, the team's trying to build a family tree | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
through Cecil's parents, as he didn't have any children of his own. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
All efforts are now focused on this case, as partner Charles Fraser believes it's the only one of value. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:03 | |
We're looking at cousins already, having established that there's no close family. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:09 | |
We've a lot of people working on this case, so research is going quickly. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
They've found his birth details, which show the names of his parents | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
are Mary Annie Robson and Edwin Walton. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
On the basis the deceased was an only child, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
you have two sides to the family, and both are pretty common names. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
An initial search is showing a surprisingly large number of Waltons married to Robsons. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
Sedgefield... | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Teesside's ours, Durham... | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
There's another one, Durham. It could be that one. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
Um... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
And the team starts to realise they've hit a stumbling block. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
Walton... I thought it was going to be a relatively straightforward name. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
But it turns out it's quite an area name... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
..Which is possibly going to cause some problems. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
There are literally dozens of Waltons on the database in Durham. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
All these are Waltons to Robsons? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Yep, and they all go with it as well. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Walton, there's 10 a penny of them. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
So... | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
We're struggling, basically. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
In fact, the name Walton is five times more common in County Durham than the rest of the country. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:27 | |
To make progress, they're going to have to run with names that look likely, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
and researcher Gareth has found some possible options for Cecil's father, Edwin Walton. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
One born 1891, in Teasdale... which is the right area, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:43 | |
but we don't, as yet, have a death for him. And the other one... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
is born in 1903... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
..Born Tynemouth, but we do have a death for him. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
So, which one's right, at this stage, is hard to know. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
The team explores the possibilities, will either give the team the breakthrough they need? | 0:07:56 | 0:08:03 | |
I've detached this tree from the first page. This is all wrong. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
But it's soon looking like any line of research is a stab in the dark. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
We know the 1891 birth of Edwin, the deceased's father, is wrong. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
But then we've got the 1903 one, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and I'm having doubts about that too, so we're back to the drawing board. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
With most of the office working this case, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
they're desperate to confirm the right details for Cecil's parents. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
It's time to ask for help. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
The company employs a team of regional heir hunters, who are on standby up and down the country. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
These researchers provide a vital role collecting birth, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
marriage and death certificates from local register offices, all in the race to find and sign up heirs. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:01 | |
David Pacifico phones Colin, the company's Northeast researcher, with a crucial request. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:10 | |
What we need to do is get the parents' marriage certificate from Bishop Auckland. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:17 | |
We've spoken to the registry office and they will be happy to do it if somebody calls, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
because we really are struggling on this, we need to identify the births for the parents. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:29 | |
But with so many threads for this difficult case, David's still concerned. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
Because this is of value and we now have two sides of the family, we need two people. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
He decides to take Ewart Lindsay off another case in Leicester | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
to help inquiries on the ground. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
-'Ewart?' -Dave! | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
'Change of plan, we need you to go towards the Northeast of England, around Durham. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:59 | |
-'The one case which has value.' -OK. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
'You're just south of Leicester aren't you? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-I am, yeah. -'Thanks, Ewart. I'll catch up with you later.' -Bye. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
'Bye.' | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
I love this job. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Don't you just love this job? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Been diverted from Leicester to Durham. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
That's no mean feat, I tell you. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Now it's all hands on deck trying to solve the case of Cecil Walton. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
I'm starting to doubt our own research now. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
But until they get a marriage certificate for Cecil's parents | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
to confirm names of grandparents and hopefully lead to cousins, the office is in limbo. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:45 | |
Without that, we're really getting a bit stuck. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
It's too common a name to know which is the right births. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
It's not going very well, is it? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
Heir hunters never know where a case may lead, or the family secrets they'll uncover. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
And when they were called to trace the relatives of a former soldier, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
they revealed a story that had lain secret for 60 years. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
It would amaze his children, who knew nothing of their father's past. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
Heir-hunting firm Celtic Research is run by father-and-son team, Peter and Hector Birchwood. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:31 | |
Peter's based in Wales, and in 2008 he was approached by a German bank | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
about an estate that ran into six figures. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
I got a letter from them | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
some time ago now, saying that they had this particular case, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
it was a German case worth about 100,000 euros, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
give or take a bit...and the... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
..bit of the family they wanted information about was one of the members who'd come over to England | 0:11:54 | 0:12:02 | |
just after the last war in the 1940s. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Peter's task was to find the relatives of a Gustav Sturm, believed to be in the UK. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:12 | |
His cousin Frida had died in Germany. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Frida was married, her husband had died before her, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
she had no children and she never left a will. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
So, when she died intestate, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
her estate should be divided amongst her living relatives - | 0:12:26 | 0:12:32 | |
in this case, cousins. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Frida was the only child of Gustav and Anna Brant. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Her father had 11 brothers and sisters, but few of them left descendants. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
However, Frida's Aunt Whilhelmine did have a child, also called Gustav. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:50 | |
The bank had got an idea of when he came to England, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
and, from that, it was just a matter of trying to find out | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
if he'd died here, which he had. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Gustav Sturm passed away in January 1994, at the age of 78. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
Born to German farmers in East Prussia, Gustav had lived the last 46 years in Britain. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
He had spent much of his life farming in the village of East Garston, where he had four children. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:22 | |
He was a widely-known and respected man. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Gus was a very quiet, very hard-working man. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:32 | |
Not frightened of anything, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
would talk to anybody, but didn't need other people's company. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
For 20 years, Roger's father had employed Gustav to run his dairy farm. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
Gus never talked about his past at all. I never knew where he came from or what he did during the war. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:52 | |
Or about his... | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
own family back home in Germany. We never knew. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
But it was clear to the heir hunters what had happened to Gustav after the war. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
The most likely explanation as to why Gustav came to Britain in 1944 | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
was that he'd been a German prisoner of war. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
One of a vast number who were captured and held in Britain. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
At peak time, there were over 400,000 prisoners of war | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
in British camps, distributed all over the country. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
There, they were first of all politically screened, interrogated, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
to separate out the Nazis from the non-Nazis. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
They were actually categorized in three difference groups - | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
the Blacks, the Greys, the Whites - | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
with the Whites being those who had very little to do with the Nazis, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
the moderates. And the most ardent Nazis were put up in the North, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
often in rural areas to be isolated from local villages and the population. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
There were 600 camps holding German prisoners like Gustav, with the aim | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
of steering them from Nazi ideology, and using their labour. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
There was a lot of war damage, which the prisoners helped to repair. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Housing stock was damaged | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
quite badly by the war. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Rubble needed to be cleared away. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
The general population felt that this was a fair contribution | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
of the prisoners towards what was damaged by Germans during the war. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
But the policy of holding the men captive indefinitely was against the Geneva Convention. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
In 1948, the German prisoners were freed. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Many were given the option to stay, and when Peter found Gustav's death certificate, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
it gave a clue to his reasons for remaining in Britain. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
..And it named a possible heir. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
I saw that on the death certificate it showed he had been married, he'd got at least one daughter | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
and I noted that the informant was his daughter, Mary Selwood. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
A pictured was emerging that Gustav had married an English girl, Dorothy McLean, just after the war in 1948. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:12 | |
And they'd had four children - Mary, Timothy, Nigel and Thomas. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
Peter was able to find contact details for Gustav's children, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
and today he is making the 200-mile journey from Wales to Berkshire to meet them. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
We're on our way to see Mrs Selwood and her brother, Tim. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
They're two of the heirs in this case. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
We'll give them the family tree, take a look at it, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
and see where they fit in and where their cousins in Germany fit in. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
He has brought a family tree with names of the heirs' German relatives, to confirm their lineage. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
He also has the paperwork for a claim which may entitle them to a share of a 100,000-euro inheritance. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:05 | |
This case is all about a lady who died in Germany a couple of years ago, called Frida. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:12 | |
Right... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
..And... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
she would have been a first cousin of your late father. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
This whole thing is that her estate has to go to her nearest living next of kin, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
who are going to be her cousins. This is where your father comes in. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
The estate is worth around about 100,000 euros. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
That will be divided amongst your father's family - that's you and your other brother. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:42 | |
And amongst the family of... | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
his Uncle Albert's children. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Tim and Mary have signed an agreement that the company will act on their behalf. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:56 | |
But for them, the most exciting thing is | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
they have an opportunity to learn about their long-long relatives. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
What part of Germany do the cousins live? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
Your cousin Klaus lives in Seeberg... | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
Dirk Hohmeister lives in Bonne. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
-It would be nice to get their address, wouldn't it? -Yes. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
It's been a worthwhile visit for Peter, who has signed heirs on behalf of the German bank, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:26 | |
but for the heirs, it's re-awoken a curiosity about | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
their own German ancestry, about which their father never spoke. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
It was a surprise to hear that we were heirs to a lady in Germany that we hadn't... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:41 | |
known about or heard anything from. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
We knew our dad was German, we didn't know how much family | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
he had in Germany, or anything about his life there. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
As their father had passed away 16 years earlier, Tim and Mary believed | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
all links to their German family had died with him. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
I personally didn't know anything about my grandparents in Germany. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
I've always wanted to know more about them. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Dad himself didn't like to talk much about it, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
so information was very... | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-Limited. -Very limited. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Trying to find things out is not easy. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
We always thought he just wanted to leave the past behind. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
Still to come: | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
The heirs embark on a journey of discovery. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Trenches and barbed wire and pillar boxes, 250 kilometres deep. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
The revelations are going to be an eye-opener. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
Dad was always our hero and he will always be our hero. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
ensuring that millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs, but not every case can be cracked. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:03 | |
The Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates that have baffled | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
the heir hunters, and remain unclaimed. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
These estates stay on the list for up to 30 years, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
and each one could be worth anything from £5,000 to many millions. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Today, we're focusing on three names from the list. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Are they relatives of yours? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
James Judge died in Notting Hill, London in July 2001, aged 81. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:34 | |
If heirs aren't found, his money will go to the Government. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
Did you know George McGlade from Hoylake in the Wirral? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
He died in October 2003, and may have come from Scotland. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
So far, no-one's come forward to claim his estate. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
Also on our list is Brian Alexander Yanchuck, who was from Milton Keynes. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:59 | |
He died in December 2004 and his surname is of Ukrainian origin. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
So far, all efforts to trace his relatives have drawn a blank. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
If the names James Judge, George McGlade or Brian Yanchuck | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
mean anything to you, or someone you know, you could have an unexpected windfall coming your way. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:21 | |
The heir hunters at Fraser & Fraser are pulling out | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
all the stops to find heirs to the estate of Cecil Walton. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
The marriage is the clue... the key to this. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
He was a widower who died in Durham in December 2009, without any children. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:44 | |
He was always very...tidy. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
..Well-shaven. Never saw him without a shave or nothing. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
A lovely old fella. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
They know the case has value, but it's proving more difficult than anyone imagined. | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
One in 10 Waltons in the UK live in County Durham. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
We're struggling. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
But has the decision to send a traveller | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
to pick up a marriage certificate in the Northeast paid off? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Yes. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
Brilliant. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
We have got the marriage in 1927. It shows that... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
the birth we were thinking could be correct...is right. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
He's the son of Thomas Walton, and that's what we've been working on. The mother | 0:22:28 | 0:22:34 | |
is the daughter of William James Robson. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
They'll check if they can identify her birth from census records. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
It's a massive breakthrough. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Without the right marriage detail for Cecil's parents, the research had ground to a halt. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:49 | |
Now they've got two concrete stems to trace. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
They know Cecil's father, Edwin Walton, came from East Ward, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
and his mother, Mary Robson, came from Great Ouseborn. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
A lead soon materialises for the mother's side of the family. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
On the maternal side of the family, Mary Robson we think had a brother, Walter Robson. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:12 | |
Um... | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
So...they're working on that at the moment. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
Researcher Jo is on the case trying | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
to track down a birth certificate for Mary Robson's brother Walter. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
Good morning, I was wondering if you could help. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
I'm trying to get hold of some birth certificates | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
for people who were born in the early 1900s in Great Ouseborn. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:35 | |
But it looks like it's going to take hours for the register office to fax through the document. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
OK, after 2. That will be brilliant. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Thanks. Cheers, bye. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
And when other companies could be looking at the same case, time is of the essence. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
One of the travelling researchers, Ewart, is almost in the Durham area. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:03 | |
The office has an urgent task for him. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Hi, Ewart, can you go over to York registry office - | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
'not million miles away from you. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
-'We've ordered a couple of certs, which have been paid for.' -Right. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
We were told to come back after 2, or phone them back, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
but if you go now, you might get it sooner. That's what I'm hoping for. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Okey-dokey, Dave, I will try and oblige. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Thanks, Ewart. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
'Bye.' | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
15 miles. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
That's not bad. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
For the moment, we don't know if we're going to find any heirs. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
If it's not easy for us, it's not easy, I hope, for other companies. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:47 | |
While the team's doing everything they can to crack a case which could | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
be worth up to £80,000, Ewart arrives at York register office | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
to try to speed up the search for birth certificates for Cecil's mother and uncle. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
Well done. Thank you very much. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
The two certificates that you asked for - 1901 and 1903. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
Wonderful. Thank you very much. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
And your receipt. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Bye-bye. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
You take care, thanks a lot. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
Once he's got them, he relays back the crucial information the office has been waiting for. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:23 | |
Walter... born 29th June 1901... | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
Father is William James Robson. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
Mother is Martha Robson, formerly Pearson. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
Do you want to see if you can get that death? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
Of course. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
A death certificate for Walter should give them the name of his wife or close kin. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
This will help them find Cecil's cousins, if he has any. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
-I want to pick up a death if I can, in 1967. -In York? -Yes. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
The information on the document means the team can expand the Robson family tree. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:57 | |
Walter Robson, Elizabeth Elsie Robson, formerly Lee. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
So, mother is Elizabeth Elsie. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Well, basically Elsie... | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
I don't have the details. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
..We think is going to be this birth, here. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
So, Walter marries a Lee. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Cecil Walton's aunt and uncle were Walter Robson and Elizabeth Elsie Robson. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
Records soon produce the name of a daughter, another Elsie Robson, who the team learns lives in York. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:29 | |
Elsie will be Cecil's cousin, which makes her an heir to his estimated £80,000 estate. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:36 | |
I'm going to head over to that address, yes. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
All right. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
Cheers, bye. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
But for a traveller who's not on his own patch, Ewart is struggling to find the address. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:52 | |
Have I passed Nottingham Avenue, mate? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
And when eventually he tracks down the location. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
10...8... | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
..It's bad news. No-one's in... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
and Elsie's house is on the market. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
When heir hunters draw a blank, talking to neighbours can sometimes give them a new line of inquiry. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:12 | |
Just found out that Elsie's passed away, about three months ago apparently. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
-Elsie, yes in that detached bungalow. -Across the road, yes. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Ewart's able to confirm that Elsie had sadly died, but there could be another heir. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
-She's got two sisters. -Anne. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-She's actually got two sisters, Anne and Audrey. -Audrey's died now. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Audrey has died. OK, fine. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
-Not Anne. -Is Ann still alive? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-Yes. -Anne Robson is another of Walter and Elsie's children. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
She'd be Cecil's cousin, and therefore an heir. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
Back at the office, the news about Anne backed up a lead that the team has been working on. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
That's right. It's right. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
Yes. We're up to date. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
And now they urgently need to find Anne's address. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
Right, David. We've got Anne's address. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
-You want a copy of this, don't you? -Is Ewart going to go there now? | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
Once I have given it to him. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
If she's nearby, Ewart may be able to pay her a visit and sign up an heir ahead of the competition. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:19 | |
Ewart. Okey-dokey. I have got this address for you. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
Yes. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
It shouldn't be too far away. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
'She is Anne, A-N-N-E, Robson. Now Page. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
Good stuff. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
Cheers, mate. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
Ewart's off to try and meet an heir for the second time today. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Elsie has two sisters, one also has died. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
There is one still alive. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Um... Which I'm going around to see her now. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
He's hoping this time, the team's combined efforts | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
that have taken him across the country will produce results. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -May I speak to Anne Page, please? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
-What about? -Are you Anne Page? Ah. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
I'm from a company called Fraser & Fraser. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
We're probate researchers. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
It's good news. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Ann Page is happy to meet Ewart and to sign the paperwork. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
The heir hunters now have their first heir to Cecil Walton's unclaimed estate. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
But for Anne, news that she's due to receive | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
an inheritance from an unknown cousin is tinged with sadness. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
For somebody to leave something that doesn't know them. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
I mean, people leave something that you know and you're that pleased. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:46 | |
I feel so sad that we didn't know him. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
In fact, Anne's aunt, pictured here with her father Walter, died before she was born. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:56 | |
You can see by the look of their faces how much they thought about each other. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
All I know that my father had a sister called Mary and she had a son, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:07 | |
and... | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
and he thought an awful lot about her and unfortunately, we were all too young to remember. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:16 | |
So, it's really sad to think there's people in the past that we'll never know. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:22 | |
The following day, the heir hunters in London are wrapping up what's been a particularly tricky case. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:30 | |
After working blind, they know they've cracked it by finding just one thing. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
Finally, we got the marriage of Walter and Elizabeth | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
and that confirmed everything was right, so... | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
what I originally thought was going to be wrong, and we were trying for trying's sake, turns out to right. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:49 | |
Quite a good result from our point of view. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But Cecil Walton's estate turns out to be worth less than the £80,000 they'd hoped for. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
They found eight heirs in total, who will get a share of his £28,000 inheritance. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:05 | |
We've now identified and have contacted a number of cousins, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
both on the paternal side as well as the maternal side. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Bearing in mind the names we had, common Northeastern names, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:18 | |
I think we did very well to get where we did. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Heir Hunter Peter Birchwood is unravelling the case | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
of a former German PoW, whose early life was a mystery to friends and family. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
Gus was a very quiet, very hard-working man. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
Not frightened of anything. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Would talk to anybody, but didn't need other people's company. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
Gustav Sturm) died in Berkshire back in 1994, but now a long-lost cousin has passed away | 0:31:48 | 0:31:55 | |
and the heir hunters have found his English children, who will inherit his share of the estate. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
The sudden connection with the past has been a shock for Tim and Mary. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
I'd still like to know about his brothers and sisters, though. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
But the news brought with it fresh details about their father's early life. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
As soon as Peter from Celtic Research got involved, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
he's brought a lot of information to the table. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Now the heirs have applied for Gustav's German military records through specialist historians. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:28 | |
Today, they're about to open the document which reveals their | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
father's wartime experience for the very first time. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
"Military service record, Gustav Sturm. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
"3rd September 1939." | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
I didn't realise he'd been to Russia, fighting on the Russian front. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:53 | |
Gustav joined the frontline Grenadier Regiment 348, five days into the Battle of Kursk. | 0:32:53 | 0:33:00 | |
Tim and Mary are learning how, in 1943, Germany was amassing | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
a huge offensive against Russia on the Eastern Front. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
Fresh troops were needed to replace casualties, and Gustav was called up from his farm | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
to fight in one of the bloodiest battles of the Second World War. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
The Battle of Kursk was the last major German | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
strategic offensive in the Second World War, against the Red Army. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
However, it certainly didn't go to plan. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
In fact, Soviets took the initiative during the course of the battle, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
which was the largest tank battle in history. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Tanks are large and make a lot of noise and they have an effect on the enemy's morale, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:50 | |
but it took soldiers such as Gustav to take the ground and to hold it, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
and that would decide whether a battle would be won or lost. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Trenches and barbed wire and pillar boxes, 250 kilometres deep. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
The revelations of what their father endured are proving difficult to read. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
We know that Dad didn't like talking about anything to do with the war | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
or even his life back in Germany... | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
but to read that, you know it's just... | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
You can understand it. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
He went through hell. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
The Germans were outnumbered two-to-one in the Battle of Kursk, and suffered massive losses. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:46 | |
Gustav was incredibly lucky to escape with his life. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
But in 1943, Gustav was severely injured by shrapnel in his leg, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
which left him hospitalised for months. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Gustav would've had a journey of over 800 miles to reach the front line. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
You'd think there'd be worn out before they even started! | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
The records reveal that Gustav was sent back to the front line in 1944 | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
to defend the northern coast of France. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
His was one of just 14 German divisions sent to try and take on | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
326,000 Allied soldiers. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
Gustav's unit would've found itself | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
rapidly outpaced by the Allied advance, particularly as his unit was an infantry division. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:31 | |
Hitler forbade the German forces to withdraw | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
once the Normandy beachhead had been pierced and that caused a fatal delay in moving troops back | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
to counter the Allied forces that were encircling them. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
"His unit was not a specialist or elite fighting corps, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
"but when he met the Allies, it was fought with distinction, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
"holding the Allies on the beaches and jeopardising the success of the entire Normandy landings. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:03 | |
"However, the unit was eventually encircled by Polish and American forces." | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
"While the German army was being shelled and bombed by Allied | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
"artillery and planes, he must've escaped along one road which the Germans kept open. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:20 | |
The result was the Falaise Pocket, which was a slaughterhouse for the German army in Normandy. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:27 | |
It caused massive casualties, and Gustav again remarkably seems to have come through unscathed. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:34 | |
It's been an emotional journey into Gustav's once-secret history. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:40 | |
You wouldn't put a face like your dad's to this. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
You can relate to the way he felt when anybody asked him about the war | 0:36:46 | 0:36:54 | |
or his family, and he just wouldn't talk about it. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
You can now see why. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
Having filled in one gaping hole in their father's life, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
his children are now curious to know about the next stage. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
Gustav's life as a prisoner of war. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Today, Tim and Mary are off to meet someone who can help them understand | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
what it was like to be a German prisoner and their father's possible reasons for staying in the UK. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:26 | |
We know nothing about his life | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
as a prisoner of war, or how he got over here or how long he was a prisoner of war. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:37 | |
He wouldn't speak about it. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Former infantry soldier Gotthard Liebich was held in a prisoner of war camp for four years. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
It was similar to this one that's still standing in Hertfordshire. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
Mary and Tim are anxious to know how their father would have fared as a captive. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
Was you treated OK | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
by the commanders of the camps? | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
-By the guards? -Yes. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
The commanders were very strict and if we did anything wrong, we'd get | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
punished by having a week or two in the glasshouse, I think they call it. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:19 | |
Otherwise, there was no cruelty or anything like this. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
That's good. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Sleeping 40 to a hut, the prisoners were allowed out only to work | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
and just like Gustav, Gotthard was made to do farm work. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Potato picking was a long, dreary job. We didn't like it. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Your back hurts like mad after the first day... | 0:38:40 | 0:38:46 | |
Hoeing beetroot, not beetroot, sugar beet, whatever... | 0:38:47 | 0:38:53 | |
from here to the end of the hedge there, rows and rows, and we were just hoeing away. | 0:38:53 | 0:39:01 | |
You'd chat to your mates next to you, you know. That was very boring too. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
When the PoWs were given their freedom in 1948, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
the British government gave many the option to stay in the UK. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
Just like Tim and Mary's father, Gotthard had a new British girlfriend | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
and now faced a difficult decision. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
You never went back home? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
I never went back home because I didn't have a home to go back to. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
My actual home, to tell you the truth, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
was burned down by the Russians when they came into Eastern Europe. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
When I got back, my girlfriend wanted me to stay in England. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
I said, "No, I must find my people first." | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
I... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
I couldn't find a job, couldn't find anywhere to live | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
and it was so difficult, so I tried to get back to England again, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
and that's what I did in 1948. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
In post-war Germany, life was all but unrecognisable, especially for | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
those like Gustav, who originally came from the East and whose land had fallen under the Iron Curtain. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:17 | |
Villages changed their names, streets changed their names | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
and it would've been very difficult for Gustav to actually go back. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
Gustav must have also been quite confused about | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
the outcome of the war, with the collapse of the Nazi system | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
and the revelations about war crimes committed by the Germans and he had | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
to come to terms with this and also all the death around him. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
Around 10,000 former German soldiers relocated permanently to the UK. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:50 | |
Just like Gustav, Gotthard married his British girlfriend and lived in England. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
I've never had any problems at all. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
I can't think of one single case where anybody was antagonistic in any way. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:05 | |
We've had no bother from anybody | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
except when we move to East Garston and we moved there with | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
a big family, because we had an extended family, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
and somebody decided they'd paint some swastikas on the walls. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
Really? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
It didn't faze Dad. He got them cleaned off and people in the village just... | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
Ignored it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
The parallels between Gotthard's life and their father's experience | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
have given Tim and Mary a new understanding. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
To think all the times I spoke to him and he never mentioned it. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
I was very close to my dad, but no mention of the war. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
I knew he didn't like to speak about the war, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
didn't like to speak German. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:53 | |
My dad loved this country, I must admit. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
He loved staying here, he wouldn't want to go back. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
For the heirs, it's been an emotional journey into the hardships their father endured. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:06 | |
Dad was always our hero and he'll always be our hero. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
It's changed nothing like that. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
It's just proved what a man he was. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
In Wales, with the paperwork for a 100,000 euro estate wrapped up, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
the case has been a satisfying one for Heir Hunter Peter Birchwood. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
He's connected heirs to their long-lost German cousins and to their father's hidden history. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:30 | |
One of the good, fun bits about this business | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
is putting them in touch with members of the family have no idea | 0:42:34 | 0:42:39 | |
of their existence and, in this instance, it's reuniting | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
people from thousands of miles away. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
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