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In London, the Heir Hunters have found an unclaimed estate | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
on the Treasury's list that could be worth up to £100,000. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Their job is to find the long-lost relatives | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
who have no idea they could be in for a windfall. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
On today's programme, a lack of new names on the Treasury's list | 0:00:37 | 0:00:42 | |
means the Heir Hunters face their stiffest competition. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
You mean you've had three already, or with the third? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
And a search for the heirs to a £70,000 case | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
reveals a seafaring family's tragic past. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
She sank very quickly. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
In the case of the Whitgift, all her crew were lost. 33 men. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
And how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
where beneficiaries need to be found. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Could you be in line for a cash payout? | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
Every year in the UK, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
If no relatives are found, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
then any money that's left behind will go to the government. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
But there are over 30 firms competing to stop this happening. They're called heir hunters. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
It's their business to track down missing relatives and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:52 | |
I love the fact that I can put families back together. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
I can reunite people. I can tell them secret histories about their own family | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
which they don't know themselves. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
It's a Thursday morning in London. Overnight, the Treasury has advertised a new list of people | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
who have died without leaving a will. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Pointless. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
But it's not the best start for heir hunting company Fraser & Fraser. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
The list published by the Bona Vacantia has been very, very small. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
There are only five cases on that. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
This doesn't give partner Neil much choice in the estates they can chase. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
And it also has the added annoyance of greater competition | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
from the other 30 heir-hunting companies around the UK, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
as inevitably they will all be working the same five estates as well. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
The clock is ticking, so Neil picks a case to work. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
We're going to start by looking at the case of Beryl Simpson. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Her maiden name is Richardson, which is quite a common name | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
so the research will be tricky. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Quite a few different families around. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Both Simpson and Richardson are fairly common names | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
which can make it harder for the heir hunters trying to trace relatives. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
But the team's initial research suggests it could be worth the risk. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
She died in Slough and we've got an address for her, but more interestingly, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
it looks as though she's moved down the street. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
I've got an address, number 60, then she moves to number four. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Number four is a housing trust but number 60 was bought in about '96 | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
which was around when she moved out of it. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
So it was sold and bought there for about £100,000. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
What I don't know is if it's Beryl who sold the house | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
or if it's someone else as she's moved out. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
There's a possibility there may be a bit of money in this. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Unsure until we get some enquiries done. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Neil and the team have a lot of work ahead of them | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
if they're to be the first to contact Beryl's heirs. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
Beryl Simpson died in January 2009 from a heart attack, aged 74. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
She lived in the large village of Colnbrook, near Slough. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
OK, then. Take care. Bye-bye! | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
Nancy Thorne of Age Concern helped Beryl in her later years. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
Beryl was referred to myself from Social Services | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
in February 05. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
She was having difficulty living in her flat on the third floor. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
And a lot of problems with the running of her life. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
So they asked me to help as an advocate. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Although never officially diagnosed, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
it's suspected Beryl had some form of learning difficulties. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
But she still had a vibrant personality and was great company. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
She had a great sense of humour, and a memory like you wouldn't believe. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
She'd get two newspapers every day and read them from back to back. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
So I never had to get a paper myself when I visited Beryl! | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Beryl's slightly eccentric ways meant she was well-known locally. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
Jan Gatehouse, who ran the neighbourhood hairdresser's, knew her for years. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Beryl was quite a character, a character of the village. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
When I opened up this hairdresser's, Beryl started to come in. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
A creature of habit, Beryl had a routine she stuck to rigidly. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
The ladies at the hairdresser's could set their watches by her! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
She used to come every Friday at about quarter to one. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
She'd have her hair washed and set, or sometimes cut, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
whichever Jan decided she needed having done! | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
Quite sad. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Because Beryl was well-known in her local community, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
this is the obvious place for the heir hunters to start making enquiries. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
Neil gives Beryl's estate to senior case manager Tony Pledger. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
He has decades of experience tracking down heirs. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
But the shortage of names on the Treasury's list is frustrating him. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He's now under pressure to bring home the bacon for the company | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
on a day when the competition will be at its most fierce. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
'You have dialled an incorrect number. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-'Please check the number and redial.' -It's one of those days! | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
The team have no guarantee Beryl's case could be worth anything like the £100,000 Neil has speculated. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:44 | |
But it's up to Tony to try and find out. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
'You have dialled an incorrect number.' | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
It may not be the start to the day Tony was hoping for, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
but knowing the deceased's address is a great start. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
It allows the heir hunters to call Beryl's former neighbours for information. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
But every other company across the UK will also be doing the same thing. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
And luck is not on Tony's side. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
They're all too far up the road or too far down the road. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
But with a little perseverance, Tony makes a call to a potential neighbour of Beryl's. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
Hello, sir. I don't know if you can help. I'm enquiring about somebody I think used to be your neighbour. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:28 | |
The neighbour helps Tony confirm what they already suspected about Beryl's former address. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:34 | |
Ah. I see. Number 60 is a block of flats. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
That explains it. Right, OK. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
This rings true with Neil's initial research. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
The flat at number 60 was sold around the mid-'90s | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
and Beryl moved to a housing trust property down the street. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
It's the money from the sale of the flat that could make up the value of her estate. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
But Neil isn't the only one to suspect this. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
The neighbour tells Tony he's the second company to have called that morning. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
Did they say who they were? Probably they didn't. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
And it's only 7.30am! | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
You'll probably get a few more! | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
This is the team's first confirmation that they face competition on this case. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Now the pressure is really on. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Thankfully, Tony gets a lead. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
The phone number of someone else who knew Beryl. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I'm ringing about - it might be a friend of yours - Beryl Simpson. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:31 | |
Tony has hit the jackpot. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Crucial information about Beryl is starting to come to light. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
She had a couple of brothers that died before her. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
They seem to have been married and may have had children. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
The information gleaned from Beryl's friend | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
allows the heir hunters to start building the basics of Beryl's family tree. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
She was married to a Douglas Simpson who passed away in 1998. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
The couple had no children, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
but there's been mention of her having two brothers. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
From his initial enquiries, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Tony now knows Beryl was a very private person. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
A fact that doesn't help the heir hunters when trying to trace any family Beryl may have had. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
Despite this, the team make a crucial breakthrough. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Using her maiden name of Richardson, Gareth has traced a potential brother of Beryl's. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
I've found a potential brother of the deceased, Peter Richardson. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
I've found his death back in 1998, when he died. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
I was hoping to get his wife living with him, or any kids living with him, but... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:39 | |
..it looks like he was by himself. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
This could mean there are potentially no nieces or nephews | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
of Beryl's on this stem of her family tree. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
At this stage of the hunt, information is still scant. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
But needing to stay ahead of the competition, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Tony decides to mobilise one of their travelling heir hunters. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
It's Crown Meadow. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
Ewart Lindsay is one of Fraser & Fraser's squad of senior researchers | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
who are willing to go wherever a case takes them. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
Based all over the UK and abroad, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
their job is to follow the clues and sniff out potential heirs | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
who may be about to inherit an unexpected windfall. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
But Ewart can only talk to heirs if he has the facts he needs. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
I haven't got much information so far. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
I've just been told by the office... | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
..her name, when she died - she died in 2009 - | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
and her address | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
where she last lived. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
And that's exactly where Ewart is heading now. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Maybe meeting the people who knew Beryl will give the team | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
an exclusive lead that could put them ahead. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
In the office, the family tree is growing. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
They now think Beryl's parents were Frederick and Lily Richardson | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
and using information from their marriage records in 1930, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
they think they've now confirmed a sibling. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
We've found Beryl's brother, Roy. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
Even though Beryl's parents married in Eton, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
it seems at least one of their three children | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
was born hundreds of miles away, a fact that originally threw the heir hunters. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
We looked at the births again. Roy is born in Sunderland, which is why we excluded it at first. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
We didn't expect the birth to be in Sunderland. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
But he's died in Purton, and he's had two children and we're pretty confident it's right. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
The team may have found their first heirs, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
two of Beryl's nephews, and all this | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
whilst case manager Tony is off getting liquid refreshment. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
We've got an address for you, Tony. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
See what I mean? I go off for a cup of tea, come back and there's been a breakthrough. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
And this breakthrough is passed straight on to Ewart. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
I've got a potential nephew of the deceased. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
Right. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
I'm going to have to call you back in a few minutes | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
cos I've got the address and phone number for the lady concerned somewhere else. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-I'll call you back in a minute. -Bye. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Looks like the deceased had two brothers who had children. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:29 | |
They're looking into it at the moment. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
But there is a friend, June, who lives close by | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
and Tony's calling me back with her details so I can go and see her. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
Just to confirm a few things. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Frustratingly, in the office, the team has yet to make contact with any of the potential heirs. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
So in the meantime, Ewart goes to see Beryl's friend | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
who may be able to help confirm who her family were. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Hi, my name's Ewart, from Fraser & Fraser. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
In the office, Tony's keen to try and make contact with the nephews they've found, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
ahead of any competition that may be out there. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
I'll phone this bloke. Where's the phone? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
But before Tony can even make a call to the nephew, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Ewart's rung in about his meeting. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
He's found out more about Beryl's other brother, Frederick. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Frederick had a... His wife was called Dolores. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
This is fantastic news, but the team has to act quickly. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Knowing who Beryl's brother Frederick married | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
will help the heir hunters narrow down their search | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and hopefully get ahead of the competition. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Because we need Dolores, which is a very good name, we'll be able to find his marriage. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
Gareth uses this information combined with the details about the marriage | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
to look for potential children of the couple. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
He's in luck. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Got it. I'll bring the tree out. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Three? Good. Let's have a look. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
There's a boy and a girl and maybe two others who they didn't know. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Gareth thinks he's found recent addresses | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
for two of Beryl's nieces and nephews. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
This is relayed straight to Tony. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
John, Dolores. He dies '92. She dies 2005. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
Go for that one first. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Tony immediately starts trying to call the nephews and nieces Gareth has found. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
He's hoping to set up crucial meetings so that the team would be the first to meet Beryl's heirs. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:37 | |
Later in the show, it's one thing to speak to an heir on the phone, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
but if you can't visit them, all your efforts could be in vain. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Where is Ewart? Where is Ewart? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
Every Thursday when the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates is advertised, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
heir hunting companies scramble to be the first to find the beneficiaries to an estate. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
But when taking on a case, there are no guarantees | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
that a family's history will be based solely in the UK. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
During the research, heir hunters can find themselves looking all over the world | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
for the clues they need to find the rightful heirs. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Josiah Arthur Webbe died on January 19, 1987 | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
in a small village by the sea in Gwynedd, North Wales. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
He died leaving an estate worth £70,000. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
Despite having passed away over 20 years ago, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
he is still remembered by family friend Gwyn Jones and his sister, Haf. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:46 | |
Arthur was married to my father's aunt, Maire, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
so she was the familial link. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
I'd say Maire was a much more bubbly person than Arthur. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
And from what I recall, she was quite a bit taller than Arthur. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
Gwyn and Haf remember Arthur as a quiet, gentle man devoted to his wife | 0:16:13 | 0:16:19 | |
but also to his career. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Arthur had a typical seafarer's complexion | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
which was fitting with his background on the seas. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
It seems that Arthur's life had always been associated with ships and the ocean. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:40 | |
From what I can remember of his working life, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
I believe he was a commander either with the Royal Navy | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
or the Merchant Navy. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
And he was very popular in the village. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Lots of people thought the world of Arthur. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
Arthur may have had plenty of friends in his village, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
but sadly there are no known existing photographs of the man himself. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
He died leaving a £70,000 estate, and heir hunting company Celtic Research | 0:17:08 | 0:17:14 | |
started to look for his relatives. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Good afternoon. Celtic Research. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Celtic Research consists of father and son team Peter and Hector Birchwood | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
and regional case managers Saul and Phil. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
They are based all over the UK and spring into action every Thursday morning | 0:17:35 | 0:17:41 | |
when the Treasury releases its list. But the Webbe case was out of the ordinary | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
as Arthur had left a will, but it ended up proving useless. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
He'd left everything to his wife. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Unfortunately, she pre-deceased him. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
With Arthur's will not specifying any other family or friends his money should go to, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
Peter would now have to try and find any long-lost relatives Arthur may have had. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
His search was helped by Arthur's distinctive name. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
It had its interest mainly in the paternal family | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
because Webbe, with an E on the end, is not that common a name. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
This can give the heir hunters a significant advantage | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
when tracking someone's descendants. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
In their game, a surname is everything! | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Webbe spelt with an E is an extremely rare name of Anglo-Saxon origin. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
But take the E away, and Webb becomes one of the commonest surnames in the UK. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
Peter got to work. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Initially, there was only a date of death for the man. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
From the date of death, we managed to find his birth certificate | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and that gave us details about his father and his mother. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:06 | |
Arthur's father was also called Josiah Arthur Webbe | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
and using the details on his son's birth records, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Peter discovered he'd married an Elizabeth Evans in Liverpool | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
in 1897. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
Through this initial research, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
Peter found out that the sea was a theme in the Webbe family, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
starting with Josiah senior. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
He was a second mate in the merchant service. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:38 | |
His son, the deceased, followed in that service. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
He was also in the merchant marine. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
And his father, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Josiah Arthur senior, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
died during the First War. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
His ship sank and he was on it when it went down. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
Josiah Arthur senior was a second mate for the merchant navy, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
not to be confused with the Royal Navy. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
In peacetime, the two were very different entities. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
The Merchant Navies consisted of | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
hundreds of private companies | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
running merchant ships | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
from huge passenger liners to undistinguished tramp ships | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
of 3,500 to 4,000 tonnes, down to small coasters running along the coast. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
But in World War I, the merchant navy became part of the war effort. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Commerce abroad, trade and exports still had to continue | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
despite Britain being at war with Germany. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Josiah Arthur senior was sailing the seas at an extremely dangerous time. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
During the start of the war, he sailed for three years | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
with no protection from the Royal Navy against German attack. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
In consequence of that, the losses of merchant ships, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
particularly to German submarines, was horrific. So much so, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
that the Admiralty had to go to the government and say they were losing the war at sea. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:14 | |
We had six weeks' supplies of grain in the country, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
and the surrender date was going to be November 1917. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
It was during this dire period of the war | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
that the SS Whitgift, that Josiah senior sailed on, fell victim to German attack. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:34 | |
She was on a voyage from Spain to Britain | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
with a cargo of iron ore. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
An immensely heavy cargo, so the ship was loaded down to her marks | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
and there was still an enormous amount of space in her holds. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
So when she was struck by a torpedo from U-67, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
somewhere in the outer reaches of the English Channel, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
she sank very quickly. In the case of the Whitgift, all crew were lost. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
33 men. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
Josiah Arthur junior would have been 16 or 17 when he lost his father. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
He would probably have heard the news aboard a ship he was working on. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
The Webbes appear to have been an adventurous family, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
a family heir hunter Peter Birchwood was trying his hardest to trace. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
The case was going reasonably well in that we'd found that the deceased | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
had a brother who unfortunately had died without any children. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
If Peter's research was correct, it meant every stem of the Webbes' close kin | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
had been accounted for with no apparent heirs. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
He would have to look further afield into Arthur's aunts and uncles. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
In the absence of any close relatives, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
then we go up to cousins. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
Later in the show, the search for Arthur's wider family doesn't go according to plan. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
We struck a major problem. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
And Peter's research reveals the darker side of Arthur's colonial family's past. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
They are part of families that did own slaves. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
that over the years have baffled the heir hunters and still remain unclaimed. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
This is money that could have your name on it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and each one could be worth anything from 5,000 to many millions of pounds. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:52 | |
Today, we're focusing on three names from the list. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Could they be relatives of yours? | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Subhas Chandra Ghosh died in 2000, aged 76. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
He'd lived in Watford, Hertfordshire. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
His name is of Hindi origin | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
and very distinctive. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
But despite this, all efforts to trace his heirs have failed. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Or did you know Doris Maud Bennett? | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
She died in 1999 in Muswell Hill, London. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
If no heirs are found to her estate, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
the money will go to the government. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Or finally, Denis Eads. He also died in 1999, in Redbridge, Essex. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
His surname is extremely rare | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and the last census shows just 18 people in the UK sharing it. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
If the names Subhas Chandra Ghosh, Doris Maud Bennett or Denis Eads mean anything to you, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:52 | |
there could be a windfall on its way. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Heir hunter Peter Birchwood picked up the case of Josiah Arthur Webbe. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
He died aged 86, leaving an estate worth £70,000. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
After his death, his will was no longer valid | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
as he'd left all his money to his wife who had sadly died just weeks before him. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
There was no-one else mentioned for the estate to go to. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
I believe Arthur did try to change his will | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
after his wife died in the Christmas of 1986. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
Unfortunately, his health didn't allow him to make one. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
With no known family, Peter got to work looking for lost heirs. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
His search revealed a family that fought in both world wars. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
His father, Josiah Arthur senior, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
died during the First War. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
His ship sank | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
and he was on it when it went down. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Despite this family tragedy, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
Josiah Arthur junior followed exactly in his father's seafaring footsteps. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Well, he was a commander, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
and I believe he was involved in the evacuation of Dunkirk. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
In what capacity, I couldn't tell you. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Arthur was actually at the top of his game. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Over the years, he'd worked his way up the ranks to what was known as a master mariner. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
A master mariner is an officer in the mercantile marine, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
who's qualified to command a ship. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
And able to go anywhere in the world. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
At this stage of his hunt, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Peter had ruled out any close kin Arthur may have had. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
He now followed the paternal line, to see whether Arthur's grandparents had any other children. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
If they had, this could lead Peter to the cousins | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
he desperately wanted to find. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Josiah Arthur Webbe senior was born on Nevis, in the West Indies. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:13 | |
And his father was a planter, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
a sugar planter. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Between 1675 and the 1730s, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
the Caribbean island of Nevis was one of the headquarters to the British slave trade. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:33 | |
With high quality sugar cane produced on the island, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
and using African slaves for the labour, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Nevis became a great source of wealth to Great Britain | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
and possibly the Webbe family. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
We do know that they were sugar planters | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
and that they are part of families that did own slaves. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:59 | |
So that puts them as pretty much the English colonial gentry. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:07 | |
It was a society that kept meticulous records. But for Peter, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
heir hunting the Webbe family was now no longer financially viable. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
In this instance, we don't have a researcher there | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
and we can't really justify the expense of going there. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
The Webbe name was effectively as good as dead to Peter. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
Virtually stuck on the Webbe side. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
Peter had to change tack if he was to stand any chance | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
of finding heirs to Arthur's £70,000 estate. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
His only hope was the maternal line of the family. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
It wasn't a pleasant prospect. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Evans is a pretty common name, especially in Wales. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
It can be researched and you can find heirs, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
and I am working on that. We might see a good result from this one of these days. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:03 | |
So for the time being, Arthur's £70,000 estate remains in the Treasury's hands. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
But hopefully, Peter's hard work will one day pay off | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
and his money will navigate its way to Arthur's wider family | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
who will hopefully celebrate their adventurous, determined and highly successful relation. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:24 | |
Had a super life, I'm sure, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
having been at sea for most of his life. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
And just a very, very kind person. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
Despite the Webbe family's history of slavery and plantation ownership in the West Indies, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
their descendants in the form of Arthur and his father | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
went on to choose more noble careers. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
What people don't realise is the enormous debt | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
that's owed to master mariners and merchant seamen of the Merchant Navy in both world wars | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
who bought time until technology and expertise in the Royal Navy | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
were able to combat the threat posed by the German U-boat offensives. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:08 | |
Did you know the Webbe family? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Or do you have this distinctive surname spelt with an E? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
If you do, there could possibly be a windfall on its way. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
Heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser have picked up the case of Beryl Simpson. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
She died in 2009 aged 74 | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
without ever making a will. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Her estate could speculatively be worth up to £100,000. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
But with a distinct lack of new names on the Treasury's list, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
they are facing stiff competition from other companies. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
If a Mrs Abbott rings, we definitely want to talk to her. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Discovering who Beryl's family are is proving hard work. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
By all accounts, Beryl led an extremely private life. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
So even though she was known locally in Colnbrook, Slough, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
people only knew her as a slightly eccentric and lonely character. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
She appeared to be a person that you sort of felt sorry for | 0:31:17 | 0:31:22 | |
because she seemed to be a bit of a loner, really. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
A fact that doesn't help case manager Tony Pledger. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
He has lists of names and phone numbers of potential heirs, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
but hasn't yet managed to speak to any of them. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
This is getting complicated. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
Tony and his team have discovered that Beryl had two brothers | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
that potentially could lead to six nephews and nieces | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
and two great-nieces. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
But this information means nothing if Tony can't contact them | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
and set up the all-important meetings. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Travelling heir hunter Ewart is as frustrated as Tony. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
I'm waiting for a call from the office | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
to hopefully confirm where they live. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
It's a waiting game, really. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I may give the office a call, actually. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Hello, Ewart, darling. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Wanting to make the most of Ewart's time before they have any heirs to visit, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Tony sends him to the register office instead. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Talk to you later. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
Getting hold of Beryl and her late husband's death certificate | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
could give Tony crucial information ahead of their competition. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
But with other companies hot on his heels, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
the distinct lack of heirs to meet is beginning to get to him. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
Don't ask me what's happening. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Back on the road, Ewart's managed to get hold of the death certificates Tony's asked for. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:51 | |
Go on, mate. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
She was a factory worker, retired. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
"Widow of Douglas George Simpson, warehouseman, retired." | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
Thanks. Bye. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Unfortunately, this information only confirms what Tony already knew. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
But across the office, Gareth has made a breakthrough. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
He's just found a new contact number for one of Beryl's nieces. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
Tony must act fast and try and secure a meeting for Ewart asap. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
You've had three already or are with the third? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
But this is the last thing Tony wanted to hear. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
The competition has beaten him to it, not once, but twice. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
On top of this, Gareth also isn't having any luck with his other contacts. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
We've got three addresses so far, and a phone number for each one | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
but they're not answering. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
Relying on one of them answering the phone, really. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
At least Tony's on the phone to one of the nieces, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
and he's trying to set up the all-important meeting. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
But even this is proving hard work. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
Travelling heir hunters Ewart and Bob Barrett have bumped into each other at the register office. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
They're now debating whether to swap the cases they're working on. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
OK. I will speak to you later. Thanks, Bob. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Bye. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
Right. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
Where's Tony? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
Where's Tony? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
A last-minute change of plan is the last thing Tony needs at this crucial moment. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:31 | |
It will either be, um... | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Bob Barrett, or it'll be Ewart Lindsay | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
that will ring you. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
I'm not sure which one it's going to be now. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
I've just been given a note to confuse me. Anyway, thanks ever so much indeed. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
Thank you. Bye. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Where is Ewart? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Where is he? Where is Ewart? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Away from his phone and shooting the breeze with Bob. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Between them, they still can't decide who will drive north | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
and who will stay south, working on Tony's case. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-Cheers, Bob. -Thanks a lot. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Will you give Tony a ring? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Cheers. See you later. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
Tony doesn't care who it is | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
as long as someone races to meet Beryl's niece. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Ewart? | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
What the friggin' heck is happening? I need you to ring this Christine Bailey. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
We're the third... I think we're the fourth company to phone her. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
Time is now crucial. The sooner they can meet the niece, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
the greater the likelihood she will sign with the company. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
Ewart gets on his way. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
From speaking to their first heir, Tony can relax a little | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and reflect on the history of Beryl's parents he discovered from the niece. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
The father of the deceased was born in Sunderland. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
He walked down here in the Jarrow march | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
which was, as you know, when all the people in Jarrow walked to London because they didn't have jobs. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
The Jarrow March took place in 1936 | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
and was a protest by the men of the town of Jarrow in Tyne and Wear | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
against the unemployment and extreme poverty they faced. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
The marchers decided to go because of the closure of the main employer, Palmer's, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
and the main steelworks. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
With that, you're talking about nearly 8,000 jobs. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
With the steelworks closed down, followed by the shipyard, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
Beryl's father Frederick and the men of Jarrow weren't left with many other options for work. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
Con Shills is 94 years old | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and a son of one of the original marchers. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
The shipyard was really the only place, so when that closed, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
Jarrow was finished. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
And the local men had no option but to go on to the meagre dole. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
It was pathetic, it really was! Now, I can talk about this | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
because I'm 94 years old and I can really talk about this. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
They were actually on the dole for years. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
Literally years! | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Up and down the Tyne there were all these shipyards. Fair enough. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
But there was already men in those places. In the jobs. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
And it was the poverty-stricken conditions these men and their families, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
families like Beryl's, were forced to endure on the dole | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
that drove them to take action against the government. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
The marchers' goal was to march from Jarrow to London | 0:37:37 | 0:37:43 | |
and put before Parliament via a petition of 11,000 signatures, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
the sheer poverty and unemployment in Jarrow | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
which was really high and dire. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
The men had wanted, and demanded, a right to work. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
That's what they were pleading for, basically, help for the town. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
The 200 men, including Beryl's father, Frederick, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
marched over 280 miles to the Palace of Westminster in London. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
But their request fell on deaf ears. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
They didn't want to know. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
All they done was they carried that blinking box with the petition in | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
all the way down from blinking Jarrow to blinking London. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
What happened? They received it. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
That's it. Received it. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
In political language, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
it was a waste of time. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
"Put it down there." | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
It was terrible. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
The government of the day completely ignored the Jarrow men's requests | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
and the shipyards stayed closed. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
The only thing they got was one pound each to catch the train home. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
Over 70 years later, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
Ewart is fortunately having more luck with his journey. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
It's going to be in here, isn't it? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
He's the first of the heir hunters to arrive at the home of Christine Bailey, Beryl's niece. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
Rock'n'roll! | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
Also there is Stacey, a great niece. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
They've already been contacted by four other companies | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
so will being first in a face-to-face meeting | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
pay off for Ewart and the team? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
-Hello, Mrs Bailey. -Hello. -Nice to meet you. This is lovely, isn't it? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Ewart gets straight down to business, trying to cross-check facts and expand the family tree. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:34 | |
-Do you know anything about your cousins? -No. -Where they live? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-As far as I know, they're still in the Burton-on-Trent area. -OK. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
Then it's down to talking about the business at hand | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
and seeing if Christine and Stacey will sign to the company. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
But Ewart's in for a shock. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
I have somebody else coming. He's made an appointment for two o'clock. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
With the competition already on their way, Ewart catches a break. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
-So as you got in first... -Yeah. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
It seems being first on the doorstep has paid off. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
Beryl's heirs agree to the company helping them make their claim to the Treasury | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
in exchange for a fixed percentage of the estate. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
Stacey never met her great aunt. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
One of the last times niece Christine saw Beryl | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
was nearly 30 years ago. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Our last meeting, all being together, was my younger brother's wedding | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
in about 1981, '82, I think. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
I remember her there with Douglas | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
who later became her husband. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Really, I don't know much else from then. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
The fact Beryl passed away, estranged from her own family, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
will be a lot for her relatives to take in. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
That's sad to come to the end of your life and not have people to give you a goodbye. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
It will be a shock to all the rest of my family when they hear the news. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
We're quite far afield. One in Spain, one in Wales. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
One on holiday who doesn't even know yet. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
So, yes, it was a surprise, indeed. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Take care of yourselves. We'll be in touch. Bye. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Ewart bids farewell after a meeting that couldn't have gone any better | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
in the face of such stiff competition. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Up north, travelling heir hunter Bob | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
has also met and signed up other nieces and nephews of Beryl's. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
But with the family spread all over the UK and abroad, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
it will be some time before partner Neil knows the final outcome. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
So we've just about finished up with Simpson now. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
We've got a couple of signatures from beneficiaries. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
An awful lot of competition and I don't think we got much value. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
We had hoped that the deceased, Beryl, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
may have owned a previous property to the one she passed away in. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
It doesn't appear that that is going to be the case. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
So the possible £100,000 value is down considerably, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
maybe as low as £10,000. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
The team now have confirmation that Beryl's estate is actually worth around the £10,000 mark. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:22 | |
When the Treasury approves the heirs' claim, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
her estate will then go to the nine relatives she'd sadly lost contact with. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
Despite this, her carer Nancy | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
remembers that Beryl's final years were happy ones. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
With the support of the advocacy service and her friends and her carers, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:42 | |
she just blossomed and she was happy. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
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