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In London, the Heir Hunters have found an unclaimed estate

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on the Treasury's list that could be worth up to £100,000.

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Their job is to find the long-lost relatives

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who have no idea they could be in for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme, a lack of new names on the Treasury's list

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means the Heir Hunters face their stiffest competition.

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You mean you've had three already, or with the third?

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And a search for the heirs to a £70,000 case

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reveals a seafaring family's tragic past.

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She sank very quickly.

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In the case of the Whitgift, all her crew were lost. 33 men.

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And how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates

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where beneficiaries need to be found.

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Could you be in line for a cash payout?

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Every year in the UK,

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an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found,

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then any money that's left behind will go to the government.

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Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates.

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But there are over 30 firms competing to stop this happening. They're called heir hunters.

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It's their business to track down missing relatives and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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I love the fact that I can put families back together.

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I can reunite people. I can tell them secret histories about their own family

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which they don't know themselves.

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It's a Thursday morning in London. Overnight, the Treasury has advertised a new list of people

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who have died without leaving a will.

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Pointless.

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But it's not the best start for heir hunting company Fraser & Fraser.

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The list published by the Bona Vacantia has been very, very small.

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There are only five cases on that.

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This doesn't give partner Neil much choice in the estates they can chase.

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And it also has the added annoyance of greater competition

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from the other 30 heir-hunting companies around the UK,

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as inevitably they will all be working the same five estates as well.

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The clock is ticking, so Neil picks a case to work.

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We're going to start by looking at the case of Beryl Simpson.

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Her maiden name is Richardson, which is quite a common name

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so the research will be tricky.

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Quite a few different families around.

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Both Simpson and Richardson are fairly common names

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which can make it harder for the heir hunters trying to trace relatives.

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But the team's initial research suggests it could be worth the risk.

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She died in Slough and we've got an address for her, but more interestingly,

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it looks as though she's moved down the street.

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I've got an address, number 60, then she moves to number four.

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Number four is a housing trust but number 60 was bought in about '96

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which was around when she moved out of it.

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So it was sold and bought there for about £100,000.

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What I don't know is if it's Beryl who sold the house

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or if it's someone else as she's moved out.

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There's a possibility there may be a bit of money in this.

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Unsure until we get some enquiries done.

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Neil and the team have a lot of work ahead of them

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if they're to be the first to contact Beryl's heirs.

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Beryl Simpson died in January 2009 from a heart attack, aged 74.

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She lived in the large village of Colnbrook, near Slough.

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OK, then. Take care. Bye-bye!

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Nancy Thorne of Age Concern helped Beryl in her later years.

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Beryl was referred to myself from Social Services

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in February 05.

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She was having difficulty living in her flat on the third floor.

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And a lot of problems with the running of her life.

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So they asked me to help as an advocate.

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Although never officially diagnosed,

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it's suspected Beryl had some form of learning difficulties.

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But she still had a vibrant personality and was great company.

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She had a great sense of humour, and a memory like you wouldn't believe.

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She'd get two newspapers every day and read them from back to back.

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So I never had to get a paper myself when I visited Beryl!

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Beryl's slightly eccentric ways meant she was well-known locally.

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Jan Gatehouse, who ran the neighbourhood hairdresser's, knew her for years.

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Beryl was quite a character, a character of the village.

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When I opened up this hairdresser's, Beryl started to come in.

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A creature of habit, Beryl had a routine she stuck to rigidly.

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The ladies at the hairdresser's could set their watches by her!

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She used to come every Friday at about quarter to one.

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She'd have her hair washed and set, or sometimes cut,

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whichever Jan decided she needed having done!

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Quite sad.

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Because Beryl was well-known in her local community,

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this is the obvious place for the heir hunters to start making enquiries.

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Neil gives Beryl's estate to senior case manager Tony Pledger.

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He has decades of experience tracking down heirs.

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But the shortage of names on the Treasury's list is frustrating him.

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He's now under pressure to bring home the bacon for the company

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on a day when the competition will be at its most fierce.

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'You have dialled an incorrect number.

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-'Please check the number and redial.'

-It's one of those days!

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The team have no guarantee Beryl's case could be worth anything like the £100,000 Neil has speculated.

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But it's up to Tony to try and find out.

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'You have dialled an incorrect number.'

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It may not be the start to the day Tony was hoping for,

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but knowing the deceased's address is a great start.

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It allows the heir hunters to call Beryl's former neighbours for information.

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But every other company across the UK will also be doing the same thing.

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And luck is not on Tony's side.

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They're all too far up the road or too far down the road.

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But with a little perseverance, Tony makes a call to a potential neighbour of Beryl's.

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Hello, sir. I don't know if you can help. I'm enquiring about somebody I think used to be your neighbour.

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The neighbour helps Tony confirm what they already suspected about Beryl's former address.

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Ah. I see. Number 60 is a block of flats.

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That explains it. Right, OK.

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This rings true with Neil's initial research.

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The flat at number 60 was sold around the mid-'90s

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and Beryl moved to a housing trust property down the street.

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It's the money from the sale of the flat that could make up the value of her estate.

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But Neil isn't the only one to suspect this.

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The neighbour tells Tony he's the second company to have called that morning.

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Did they say who they were? Probably they didn't.

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And it's only 7.30am!

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You'll probably get a few more!

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This is the team's first confirmation that they face competition on this case.

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Now the pressure is really on.

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Thankfully, Tony gets a lead.

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The phone number of someone else who knew Beryl.

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I'm ringing about - it might be a friend of yours - Beryl Simpson.

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Tony has hit the jackpot.

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Crucial information about Beryl is starting to come to light.

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She had a couple of brothers that died before her.

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They seem to have been married and may have had children.

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The information gleaned from Beryl's friend

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allows the heir hunters to start building the basics of Beryl's family tree.

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She was married to a Douglas Simpson who passed away in 1998.

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The couple had no children,

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but there's been mention of her having two brothers.

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From his initial enquiries,

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Tony now knows Beryl was a very private person.

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A fact that doesn't help the heir hunters when trying to trace any family Beryl may have had.

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Despite this, the team make a crucial breakthrough.

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Using her maiden name of Richardson, Gareth has traced a potential brother of Beryl's.

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I've found a potential brother of the deceased, Peter Richardson.

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I've found his death back in 1998, when he died.

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I was hoping to get his wife living with him, or any kids living with him, but...

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..it looks like he was by himself.

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This could mean there are potentially no nieces or nephews

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of Beryl's on this stem of her family tree.

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At this stage of the hunt, information is still scant.

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But needing to stay ahead of the competition,

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Tony decides to mobilise one of their travelling heir hunters.

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It's Crown Meadow.

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Ewart Lindsay is one of Fraser & Fraser's squad of senior researchers

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who are willing to go wherever a case takes them.

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Based all over the UK and abroad,

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their job is to follow the clues and sniff out potential heirs

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who may be about to inherit an unexpected windfall.

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But Ewart can only talk to heirs if he has the facts he needs.

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I haven't got much information so far.

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I've just been told by the office...

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..her name, when she died - she died in 2009 -

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and her address

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where she last lived.

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And that's exactly where Ewart is heading now.

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Maybe meeting the people who knew Beryl will give the team

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an exclusive lead that could put them ahead.

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In the office, the family tree is growing.

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They now think Beryl's parents were Frederick and Lily Richardson

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and using information from their marriage records in 1930,

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they think they've now confirmed a sibling.

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We've found Beryl's brother, Roy.

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Even though Beryl's parents married in Eton,

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it seems at least one of their three children

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was born hundreds of miles away, a fact that originally threw the heir hunters.

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We looked at the births again. Roy is born in Sunderland, which is why we excluded it at first.

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We didn't expect the birth to be in Sunderland.

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But he's died in Purton, and he's had two children and we're pretty confident it's right.

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The team may have found their first heirs,

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two of Beryl's nephews, and all this

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whilst case manager Tony is off getting liquid refreshment.

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We've got an address for you, Tony.

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See what I mean? I go off for a cup of tea, come back and there's been a breakthrough.

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And this breakthrough is passed straight on to Ewart.

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I've got a potential nephew of the deceased.

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Right.

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I'm going to have to call you back in a few minutes

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cos I've got the address and phone number for the lady concerned somewhere else.

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-I'll call you back in a minute.

-Bye.

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Looks like the deceased had two brothers who had children.

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They're looking into it at the moment.

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But there is a friend, June, who lives close by

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and Tony's calling me back with her details so I can go and see her.

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Just to confirm a few things.

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Frustratingly, in the office, the team has yet to make contact with any of the potential heirs.

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So in the meantime, Ewart goes to see Beryl's friend

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who may be able to help confirm who her family were.

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Hi, my name's Ewart, from Fraser & Fraser.

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In the office, Tony's keen to try and make contact with the nephews they've found,

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ahead of any competition that may be out there.

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I'll phone this bloke. Where's the phone?

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Thank you very much.

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But before Tony can even make a call to the nephew,

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Ewart's rung in about his meeting.

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He's found out more about Beryl's other brother, Frederick.

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Frederick had a... His wife was called Dolores.

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This is fantastic news, but the team has to act quickly.

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Knowing who Beryl's brother Frederick married

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will help the heir hunters narrow down their search

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and hopefully get ahead of the competition.

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Because we need Dolores, which is a very good name, we'll be able to find his marriage.

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Gareth uses this information combined with the details about the marriage

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to look for potential children of the couple.

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He's in luck.

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Got it. I'll bring the tree out.

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Three? Good. Let's have a look.

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There's a boy and a girl and maybe two others who they didn't know.

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Gareth thinks he's found recent addresses

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for two of Beryl's nieces and nephews.

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This is relayed straight to Tony.

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John, Dolores. He dies '92. She dies 2005.

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Go for that one first.

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Tony immediately starts trying to call the nephews and nieces Gareth has found.

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He's hoping to set up crucial meetings so that the team would be the first to meet Beryl's heirs.

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Later in the show, it's one thing to speak to an heir on the phone,

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but if you can't visit them, all your efforts could be in vain.

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Where is Ewart? Where is Ewart?

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Every Thursday when the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates is advertised,

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heir hunting companies scramble to be the first to find the beneficiaries to an estate.

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But when taking on a case, there are no guarantees

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that a family's history will be based solely in the UK.

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During the research, heir hunters can find themselves looking all over the world

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for the clues they need to find the rightful heirs.

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Josiah Arthur Webbe died on January 19, 1987

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in a small village by the sea in Gwynedd, North Wales.

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He died leaving an estate worth £70,000.

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Despite having passed away over 20 years ago,

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he is still remembered by family friend Gwyn Jones and his sister, Haf.

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Arthur was married to my father's aunt, Maire,

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so she was the familial link.

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I'd say Maire was a much more bubbly person than Arthur.

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And from what I recall, she was quite a bit taller than Arthur.

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Gwyn and Haf remember Arthur as a quiet, gentle man devoted to his wife

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but also to his career.

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Arthur had a typical seafarer's complexion

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which was fitting with his background on the seas.

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It seems that Arthur's life had always been associated with ships and the ocean.

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From what I can remember of his working life,

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I believe he was a commander either with the Royal Navy

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or the Merchant Navy.

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And he was very popular in the village.

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Lots of people thought the world of Arthur.

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Arthur may have had plenty of friends in his village,

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but sadly there are no known existing photographs of the man himself.

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He died leaving a £70,000 estate, and heir hunting company Celtic Research

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started to look for his relatives.

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Good afternoon. Celtic Research.

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Celtic Research consists of father and son team Peter and Hector Birchwood

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and regional case managers Saul and Phil.

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They are based all over the UK and spring into action every Thursday morning

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when the Treasury releases its list. But the Webbe case was out of the ordinary

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as Arthur had left a will, but it ended up proving useless.

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He'd left everything to his wife.

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Unfortunately, she pre-deceased him.

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With Arthur's will not specifying any other family or friends his money should go to,

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Peter would now have to try and find any long-lost relatives Arthur may have had.

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His search was helped by Arthur's distinctive name.

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It had its interest mainly in the paternal family

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because Webbe, with an E on the end, is not that common a name.

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This can give the heir hunters a significant advantage

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when tracking someone's descendants.

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In their game, a surname is everything!

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Webbe spelt with an E is an extremely rare name of Anglo-Saxon origin.

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But take the E away, and Webb becomes one of the commonest surnames in the UK.

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Peter got to work.

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Initially, there was only a date of death for the man.

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From the date of death, we managed to find his birth certificate

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and that gave us details about his father and his mother.

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Arthur's father was also called Josiah Arthur Webbe

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and using the details on his son's birth records,

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Peter discovered he'd married an Elizabeth Evans in Liverpool

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in 1897.

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Through this initial research,

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Peter found out that the sea was a theme in the Webbe family,

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starting with Josiah senior.

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He was a second mate in the merchant service.

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His son, the deceased, followed in that service.

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He was also in the merchant marine.

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And his father,

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Josiah Arthur senior,

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died during the First War.

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His ship sank and he was on it when it went down.

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Josiah Arthur senior was a second mate for the merchant navy,

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not to be confused with the Royal Navy.

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In peacetime, the two were very different entities.

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The Merchant Navies consisted of

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hundreds of private companies

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running merchant ships

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from huge passenger liners to undistinguished tramp ships

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of 3,500 to 4,000 tonnes, down to small coasters running along the coast.

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But in World War I, the merchant navy became part of the war effort.

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Commerce abroad, trade and exports still had to continue

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despite Britain being at war with Germany.

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Josiah Arthur senior was sailing the seas at an extremely dangerous time.

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During the start of the war, he sailed for three years

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with no protection from the Royal Navy against German attack.

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In consequence of that, the losses of merchant ships,

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particularly to German submarines, was horrific. So much so,

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that the Admiralty had to go to the government and say they were losing the war at sea.

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We had six weeks' supplies of grain in the country,

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and the surrender date was going to be November 1917.

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It was during this dire period of the war

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that the SS Whitgift, that Josiah senior sailed on, fell victim to German attack.

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She was on a voyage from Spain to Britain

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with a cargo of iron ore.

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An immensely heavy cargo, so the ship was loaded down to her marks

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and there was still an enormous amount of space in her holds.

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So when she was struck by a torpedo from U-67,

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somewhere in the outer reaches of the English Channel,

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she sank very quickly. In the case of the Whitgift, all crew were lost.

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33 men.

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Josiah Arthur junior would have been 16 or 17 when he lost his father.

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He would probably have heard the news aboard a ship he was working on.

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The Webbes appear to have been an adventurous family,

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a family heir hunter Peter Birchwood was trying his hardest to trace.

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The case was going reasonably well in that we'd found that the deceased

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had a brother who unfortunately had died without any children.

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If Peter's research was correct, it meant every stem of the Webbes' close kin

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had been accounted for with no apparent heirs.

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He would have to look further afield into Arthur's aunts and uncles.

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In the absence of any close relatives,

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then we go up to cousins.

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Later in the show, the search for Arthur's wider family doesn't go according to plan.

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We struck a major problem.

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And Peter's research reveals the darker side of Arthur's colonial family's past.

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They are part of families that did own slaves.

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Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

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In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates

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that over the years have baffled the heir hunters and still remain unclaimed.

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This is money that could have your name on it.

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These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years

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and each one could be worth anything from 5,000 to many millions of pounds.

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Today, we're focusing on three names from the list.

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Could they be relatives of yours?

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Subhas Chandra Ghosh died in 2000, aged 76.

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He'd lived in Watford, Hertfordshire.

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His name is of Hindi origin

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and very distinctive.

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But despite this, all efforts to trace his heirs have failed.

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Or did you know Doris Maud Bennett?

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She died in 1999 in Muswell Hill, London.

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If no heirs are found to her estate,

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the money will go to the government.

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Or finally, Denis Eads. He also died in 1999, in Redbridge, Essex.

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His surname is extremely rare

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and the last census shows just 18 people in the UK sharing it.

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If the names Subhas Chandra Ghosh, Doris Maud Bennett or Denis Eads mean anything to you,

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there could be a windfall on its way.

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Heir hunter Peter Birchwood picked up the case of Josiah Arthur Webbe.

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He died aged 86, leaving an estate worth £70,000.

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After his death, his will was no longer valid

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as he'd left all his money to his wife who had sadly died just weeks before him.

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There was no-one else mentioned for the estate to go to.

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I believe Arthur did try to change his will

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after his wife died in the Christmas of 1986.

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Unfortunately, his health didn't allow him to make one.

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With no known family, Peter got to work looking for lost heirs.

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His search revealed a family that fought in both world wars.

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His father, Josiah Arthur senior,

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died during the First War.

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His ship sank

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and he was on it when it went down.

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Despite this family tragedy,

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Josiah Arthur junior followed exactly in his father's seafaring footsteps.

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Well, he was a commander,

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and I believe he was involved in the evacuation of Dunkirk.

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In what capacity, I couldn't tell you.

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Arthur was actually at the top of his game.

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Over the years, he'd worked his way up the ranks to what was known as a master mariner.

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A master mariner is an officer in the mercantile marine,

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who's qualified to command a ship.

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And able to go anywhere in the world.

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At this stage of his hunt,

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Peter had ruled out any close kin Arthur may have had.

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He now followed the paternal line, to see whether Arthur's grandparents had any other children.

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If they had, this could lead Peter to the cousins

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he desperately wanted to find.

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Josiah Arthur Webbe senior was born on Nevis, in the West Indies.

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And his father was a planter,

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a sugar planter.

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Between 1675 and the 1730s,

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the Caribbean island of Nevis was one of the headquarters to the British slave trade.

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With high quality sugar cane produced on the island,

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and using African slaves for the labour,

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Nevis became a great source of wealth to Great Britain

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and possibly the Webbe family.

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We do know that they were sugar planters

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and that they are part of families that did own slaves.

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So that puts them as pretty much the English colonial gentry.

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It was a society that kept meticulous records. But for Peter,

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heir hunting the Webbe family was now no longer financially viable.

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In this instance, we don't have a researcher there

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and we can't really justify the expense of going there.

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The Webbe name was effectively as good as dead to Peter.

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Virtually stuck on the Webbe side.

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Peter had to change tack if he was to stand any chance

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of finding heirs to Arthur's £70,000 estate.

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His only hope was the maternal line of the family.

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It wasn't a pleasant prospect.

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Evans is a pretty common name, especially in Wales.

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It can be researched and you can find heirs,

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and I am working on that. We might see a good result from this one of these days.

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So for the time being, Arthur's £70,000 estate remains in the Treasury's hands.

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But hopefully, Peter's hard work will one day pay off

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and his money will navigate its way to Arthur's wider family

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who will hopefully celebrate their adventurous, determined and highly successful relation.

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Had a super life, I'm sure,

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having been at sea for most of his life.

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And just a very, very kind person.

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Despite the Webbe family's history of slavery and plantation ownership in the West Indies,

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their descendants in the form of Arthur and his father

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went on to choose more noble careers.

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What people don't realise is the enormous debt

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that's owed to master mariners and merchant seamen of the Merchant Navy in both world wars

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who bought time until technology and expertise in the Royal Navy

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were able to combat the threat posed by the German U-boat offensives.

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Did you know the Webbe family?

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Or do you have this distinctive surname spelt with an E?

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If you do, there could possibly be a windfall on its way.

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Heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser have picked up the case of Beryl Simpson.

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She died in 2009 aged 74

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without ever making a will.

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Her estate could speculatively be worth up to £100,000.

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But with a distinct lack of new names on the Treasury's list,

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they are facing stiff competition from other companies.

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If a Mrs Abbott rings, we definitely want to talk to her.

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Discovering who Beryl's family are is proving hard work.

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By all accounts, Beryl led an extremely private life.

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So even though she was known locally in Colnbrook, Slough,

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people only knew her as a slightly eccentric and lonely character.

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She appeared to be a person that you sort of felt sorry for

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because she seemed to be a bit of a loner, really.

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A fact that doesn't help case manager Tony Pledger.

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He has lists of names and phone numbers of potential heirs,

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but hasn't yet managed to speak to any of them.

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This is getting complicated.

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Tony and his team have discovered that Beryl had two brothers

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that potentially could lead to six nephews and nieces

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and two great-nieces.

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But this information means nothing if Tony can't contact them

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and set up the all-important meetings.

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Travelling heir hunter Ewart is as frustrated as Tony.

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I'm waiting for a call from the office

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to hopefully confirm where they live.

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It's a waiting game, really.

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I may give the office a call, actually.

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Hello, Ewart, darling.

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Wanting to make the most of Ewart's time before they have any heirs to visit,

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Tony sends him to the register office instead.

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Talk to you later.

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Getting hold of Beryl and her late husband's death certificate

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could give Tony crucial information ahead of their competition.

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But with other companies hot on his heels,

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the distinct lack of heirs to meet is beginning to get to him.

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Don't ask me what's happening.

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Back on the road, Ewart's managed to get hold of the death certificates Tony's asked for.

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Go on, mate.

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She was a factory worker, retired.

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"Widow of Douglas George Simpson, warehouseman, retired."

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Thanks. Bye.

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Unfortunately, this information only confirms what Tony already knew.

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But across the office, Gareth has made a breakthrough.

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He's just found a new contact number for one of Beryl's nieces.

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Tony must act fast and try and secure a meeting for Ewart asap.

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You've had three already or are with the third?

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But this is the last thing Tony wanted to hear.

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The competition has beaten him to it, not once, but twice.

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On top of this, Gareth also isn't having any luck with his other contacts.

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We've got three addresses so far, and a phone number for each one

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but they're not answering.

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Relying on one of them answering the phone, really.

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At least Tony's on the phone to one of the nieces,

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and he's trying to set up the all-important meeting.

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But even this is proving hard work.

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Travelling heir hunters Ewart and Bob Barrett have bumped into each other at the register office.

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They're now debating whether to swap the cases they're working on.

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OK. I will speak to you later. Thanks, Bob.

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Bye.

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Right.

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Where's Tony?

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Where's Tony?

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A last-minute change of plan is the last thing Tony needs at this crucial moment.

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It will either be, um...

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Bob Barrett, or it'll be Ewart Lindsay

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that will ring you.

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I'm not sure which one it's going to be now.

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I've just been given a note to confuse me. Anyway, thanks ever so much indeed.

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Thank you. Bye.

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Where is Ewart?

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Where is he? Where is Ewart?

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Away from his phone and shooting the breeze with Bob.

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Between them, they still can't decide who will drive north

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and who will stay south, working on Tony's case.

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-Cheers, Bob.

-Thanks a lot.

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Will you give Tony a ring?

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Cheers. See you later.

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Tony doesn't care who it is

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as long as someone races to meet Beryl's niece.

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Ewart?

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What the friggin' heck is happening? I need you to ring this Christine Bailey.

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We're the third... I think we're the fourth company to phone her.

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Time is now crucial. The sooner they can meet the niece,

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the greater the likelihood she will sign with the company.

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Ewart gets on his way.

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From speaking to their first heir, Tony can relax a little

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and reflect on the history of Beryl's parents he discovered from the niece.

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The father of the deceased was born in Sunderland.

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He walked down here in the Jarrow march

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which was, as you know, when all the people in Jarrow walked to London because they didn't have jobs.

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The Jarrow March took place in 1936

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and was a protest by the men of the town of Jarrow in Tyne and Wear

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against the unemployment and extreme poverty they faced.

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The marchers decided to go because of the closure of the main employer, Palmer's,

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and the main steelworks.

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With that, you're talking about nearly 8,000 jobs.

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With the steelworks closed down, followed by the shipyard,

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Beryl's father Frederick and the men of Jarrow weren't left with many other options for work.

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Con Shills is 94 years old

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and a son of one of the original marchers.

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The shipyard was really the only place, so when that closed,

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Jarrow was finished.

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And the local men had no option but to go on to the meagre dole.

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It was pathetic, it really was! Now, I can talk about this

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because I'm 94 years old and I can really talk about this.

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They were actually on the dole for years.

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Literally years!

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Up and down the Tyne there were all these shipyards. Fair enough.

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But there was already men in those places. In the jobs.

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And it was the poverty-stricken conditions these men and their families,

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families like Beryl's, were forced to endure on the dole

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that drove them to take action against the government.

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The marchers' goal was to march from Jarrow to London

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and put before Parliament via a petition of 11,000 signatures,

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the sheer poverty and unemployment in Jarrow

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which was really high and dire.

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The men had wanted, and demanded, a right to work.

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That's what they were pleading for, basically, help for the town.

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The 200 men, including Beryl's father, Frederick,

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marched over 280 miles to the Palace of Westminster in London.

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But their request fell on deaf ears.

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They didn't want to know.

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All they done was they carried that blinking box with the petition in

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all the way down from blinking Jarrow to blinking London.

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What happened? They received it.

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That's it. Received it.

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In political language,

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it was a waste of time.

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"Put it down there."

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It was terrible.

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The government of the day completely ignored the Jarrow men's requests

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and the shipyards stayed closed.

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The only thing they got was one pound each to catch the train home.

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Over 70 years later,

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Ewart is fortunately having more luck with his journey.

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It's going to be in here, isn't it?

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He's the first of the heir hunters to arrive at the home of Christine Bailey, Beryl's niece.

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Rock'n'roll!

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Also there is Stacey, a great niece.

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They've already been contacted by four other companies

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so will being first in a face-to-face meeting

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pay off for Ewart and the team?

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-Hello, Mrs Bailey.

-Hello.

-Nice to meet you. This is lovely, isn't it?

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Ewart gets straight down to business, trying to cross-check facts and expand the family tree.

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-Do you know anything about your cousins?

-No.

-Where they live?

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-As far as I know, they're still in the Burton-on-Trent area.

-OK.

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Then it's down to talking about the business at hand

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and seeing if Christine and Stacey will sign to the company.

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But Ewart's in for a shock.

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I have somebody else coming. He's made an appointment for two o'clock.

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With the competition already on their way, Ewart catches a break.

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-So as you got in first...

-Yeah.

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It seems being first on the doorstep has paid off.

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Beryl's heirs agree to the company helping them make their claim to the Treasury

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in exchange for a fixed percentage of the estate.

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Stacey never met her great aunt.

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One of the last times niece Christine saw Beryl

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was nearly 30 years ago.

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Our last meeting, all being together, was my younger brother's wedding

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in about 1981, '82, I think.

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I remember her there with Douglas

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who later became her husband.

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Really, I don't know much else from then.

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The fact Beryl passed away, estranged from her own family,

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will be a lot for her relatives to take in.

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That's sad to come to the end of your life and not have people to give you a goodbye.

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It will be a shock to all the rest of my family when they hear the news.

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We're quite far afield. One in Spain, one in Wales.

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One on holiday who doesn't even know yet.

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So, yes, it was a surprise, indeed.

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Take care of yourselves. We'll be in touch. Bye.

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Ewart bids farewell after a meeting that couldn't have gone any better

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in the face of such stiff competition.

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Up north, travelling heir hunter Bob

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has also met and signed up other nieces and nephews of Beryl's.

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But with the family spread all over the UK and abroad,

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it will be some time before partner Neil knows the final outcome.

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So we've just about finished up with Simpson now.

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We've got a couple of signatures from beneficiaries.

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An awful lot of competition and I don't think we got much value.

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We had hoped that the deceased, Beryl,

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may have owned a previous property to the one she passed away in.

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It doesn't appear that that is going to be the case.

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So the possible £100,000 value is down considerably,

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maybe as low as £10,000.

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The team now have confirmation that Beryl's estate is actually worth around the £10,000 mark.

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When the Treasury approves the heirs' claim,

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her estate will then go to the nine relatives she'd sadly lost contact with.

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Despite this, her carer Nancy

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remembers that Beryl's final years were happy ones.

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With the support of the advocacy service and her friends and her carers,

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she just blossomed and she was happy.

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