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Today, heir hunters are searching for a family of beneficiaries in line to inherit a £50,000 estate.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme,

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a confusing birth certificate causes chaos for the heir hunters

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as they search for beneficiaries to a five figure estate.

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It goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.

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And two brothers are amazed to learn how much they had in common

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with a long-lost relative they'd never known.

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Ship building and the sea, I think, have always been in the blood.

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Plus, how you could be entitled

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to some of the thousands of pounds held by the Treasury.

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Could a windfall be heading your way?

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Each year the British government receives around £12 million of bonus revenue.

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This staggering amount comes from unclaimed estates left by people who have died without making a will.

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But it doesn't have to be this way.

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Throughout the UK there are over 30 companies competing to return

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this money to the families it belongs to.

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These people are known as heir hunters.

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Working for a commission, heir hunting is big business

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involving plenty of detective work.

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So it's not 100% sure that this is the right one.

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But to return family money to the rightful heirs

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can be immensely satisfying.

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What I originally thought was going to be wrong,

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we were just trying for trying's sake, turns out to be right.

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So quite a good result, really.

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The sun's up, it's Thursday morning and across the UK,

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heir hunting firms are scouring the Treasury's list

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of unclaimed estates which has just been published.

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The companies are in a race to find heirs

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and until they do, they won't earn a penny in commission.

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But the higher the value of the estate, the greater the competition

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between rival firms.

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At the offices of Fraser & Fraser in London,

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one name on the list has caught the eye of case manager, Dave Slee.

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Hello. Good morning. Sorry to trouble you.

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We're trying to trace the next of kin of a lady by the name of Mrs Vera Humphrey.

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All he has to go on is a name, date and place of death.

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It doesn't sound like a lot but Dave quickly

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puts his years of experience to use and gets on the phone.

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She passed away, we believe, in 2003

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and may have been a resident at Homefield House.

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Vera May Humphrey, formerly Tovey,

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passed away at the age of 86 in Southampton.

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She married widower Arthur Humphrey in 1954 but they had no children.

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Vera was quickly welcomed into Arthur's family

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and is fondly remembered by them.

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Alan Bates was Arthur's nephew

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and he and wife Pam were close to Vera for nearly 50 years.

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She was a very bubbly person. She had a lovely personality, actually.

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-But she had an innate laugh, didn't she?

-Yes, she did.

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She always, she was always very light-hearted. Children loved her.

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I knew she was a shorthand writer, the same as myself.

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She'd write notes in shorthand and she's the only one could decipher it.

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She'd say, "I think I can do it faster than you."

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I'd say, "I think I can do it faster than you."

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Sadly Arthur passed away in 1975,

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but Vera remained close to his family, until she too died in 2003.

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In the office, it's 8:40am and Dave is on the phone trying to find

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out whether Vera owned her property.

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If she did they'll know this has the potential to be a high value case.

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So would they own the properties, the people? They own the property. OK.

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This is a cracking start.

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If Vera owned her home,

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the team reckon her estate could be worth at least £50,000.

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It would've been a privately owned over 55s development.

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I'm going to speak to the manager of the home now.

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While Dave makes that call, he needs senior researcher Gareth

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to find some concrete information on Vera's ancestry, fast.

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Heir hunters need to build a family tree to establish their next of kin.

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They do this by using public records including birth,

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death and marriage certificates as well as census results.

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Available online and in local register offices,

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all this evidence helps heir hunters

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build a family tree for the deceased.

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And making use of these tools, research into Vera's family seems

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to be unfolding very quickly now and Gareth has had a breakthrough.

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We've got a brother of the deceased. Reginald F. Tovey.

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We think we've found him in 1930s Canada.

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Vera's parents were Percy Tovey and Bertha Alice Weare.

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The heir hunters believe that as well as Vera, they also had a son,

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Reginald.

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Percy died in 1917 of pneumonia, when Vera was a year old.

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Bertha then remarried a Sidney Brown.

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We can go off to cousins.

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We'll definitely have plenty of cousins to find.

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But we'll be doing that without knowing what happened to Reginald, the deceased brother.

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If Vera's brother Reginald is still alive

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he'll be the sole heir to her estate and if he's died,

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his children will be the next in line to inherit.

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The team need to try and find out what happened to Reginald.

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So it's time to head out onto the streets.

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The company has a network of travelling heir hunters based

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all around the UK.

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They're ready to hit the road at a moment's notice,

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following orders from the case managers in the office.

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We need the parents' marriage certificate from Bishop Auckland.

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Their main tasks are to collect certificates,

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check records and sign up heirs.

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Dave Slee has called on the services of ex-police officer Bob Barrett

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and armed with his marching orders, he's hit the road.

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I'm on my way to Southampton Registry Office

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to try and get a death certificate of Vera Humphrey.

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The certificate Bob's getting

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will confirm the team are on the right track.

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In the meantime Dave has some calls to make.

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The manager of the sheltered accommodation where Vera lived

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has given him a list of people who may have useful information.

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Time to hit the phones.

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Your uncle was Arthur. I presume that Vera and Arthur had no children.

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No.

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We understand that she owned her property in Homefield House.

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I just wondered if you had a... No.

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So you don't believe there'd be any,

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she didn't own a property at the time of her death.

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No.

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It's good and bad news for the team.

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The bad news is Vera didn't own her home,

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but on the plus side, he's been able to confirm what the team suspected,

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that she had a brother called Reginald.

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Dave has also now got the phone numbers of Vera's stepchildren

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Mike and Bob Humphrey, the sons of her husband Arthur.

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Dave knows that as stepchildren,

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they cannot legally inherit without a will.

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But they might have more information about Vera

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that could help the team in their search.

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Dave immediately tries to call them

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but he can't reach anyone at home.

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"This number does not receive incoming calls."

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That's no longer in service.

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Last throw of the dice.

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Hello. Yes, sorry to trouble you.

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Finally, Dave gets through to one of Vera's stepsons.

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The Homefield House, the manager there has very,

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very kindly gave me your phone number because her first impression

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is that you were the next of kin, of course, as the sons.

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Mike and Bob Humphrey's father,

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Arthur, was married to Vera for 20 years

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and the two brothers have very fond memories of their stepmother.

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My favourite memory of Vera is in her later years when I got to know

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her better, I suppose, and visiting her in those years down in Horden.

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-She was always good fun.

-We loved going down there.

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She was always, I've never,

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ever seen Vera without a smile on her face.

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And she was certainly always pleased to see us.

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She was, she was always, well she always said she's proud of her boys

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but you know, that's just the way that she was.

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Can I just ask when your father did pass away?

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Dave's phone call to Vera's stepson is very revealing.

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He learns that after Vera's father Percy died,

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she and her brother Reginald were abandoned by their mother

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and put into a home for orphans.

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In the early 1920s there were still scores of orphanages in the UK

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and it was common practice for single parents to put

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children into homes if they weren't able to raise them themselves.

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During the phone call, Vera's stepson is also keen

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to express his frustration that her estate has been

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advertised as unclaimed by the Treasury.

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And of course unfortunately, legally, because you're the stepsons, you can't inherit.

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Yeah, I know. It's the law.

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The law is actually under review and may well change in the future.

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Of course, it is frustrating.

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Mike and Bob are particularly upset because they know that Vera

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did actually make a will but sadly the solicitors

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have since gone into liquidation and the will cannot be found.

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There was will and she lodged it with a solicitor.

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The only problem is there's no trace of it.

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That money belongs to us.

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It was Dad's money. It was Dad and Vera's money.

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You know, by all the laws of the land and the sky, it's ours.

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However, under British inheritance law,

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the only people the heir hunters will be able to help make a claim

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to Vera's estimated £50,000 estate are blood relations.

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In the office, Dave has completed his phone call

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and is about to receive even more useful information;

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at the registry office in Southampton,

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travelling researcher Bob Barrett has Vera's death certificate.

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I can confirm date of birth 29th May 1916.

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Widow of Arthur Edward Humphrey.

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It looks like Weymouth is where a lot of this job's coming out.

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We're definitely trying to find a closer kin than we've already found.

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Gareth says go to Weymouth.

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The information from the death certificate confirms

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the team are looking at the right family

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and their research suggests

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there may be cousins in the Weymouth area through Vera's father Percy.

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These cousins and their descendants would be heirs.

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Bob heads for Weymouth, hoping that by the time he gets there,

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the team in the office will have found cousins for him to see.

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Let's see if we can get another address in Weymouth.

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We've got 20 minutes to do it. Starting now.

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But Dom might need more than 20 minutes,

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it seems the Tovey family expanded at a rate of knots.

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We've got lots of siblings, by the looks of it.

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One who is one William Tovey who unfortunately,

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from our point of view, has six children.

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One of whom has three children, another has two.

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One has six children.

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So this is going to, we're looking at an awful lot of heirs, really.

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We're just going through them one by one, trying to get them

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up to date and beat the competition to their doors.

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William Tovey, Vera's grandfather, married Martha Millard

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and on the 1881 census they had 11 children.

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The youngest, Percy, was born in 1880 and he went on to father Vera

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and her brother Reginald.

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But when Gareth digs deeper, something doesn't quite add up.

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On the 1891 census, the 11-year-old Percy

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is listed as the adopted son of a Robert and Amelia Fawcett.

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But Robert Fawcett then went on to marry Ada, Percy's older sister.

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-Robert, he adopted Percy.

-OK, yeah.

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-And then he's subsequently gone on to marry Percy's sister, Ada.

-Yeah.

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Who we think Percy is possibly the illegitimate child of Ada.

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Ada was 17 years older than Percy

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so Gareth has a theory he may have been her illegitimate son.

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But this would have a dramatic effect on the research.

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It would move Percy down a generation,

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meaning the cousins in Weymouth would become second cousins,

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and under English inheritance law, second cousins cannot inherit.

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The only way they can confirm their theory is to see Percy's birth certificate

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and fortunately Bob's perfectly placed to pick it up.

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We need that from Weymouth. OK, he's on his way to Weymouth.

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It's 12:30pm and frustratingly the team are no closer

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to finding an heir.

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Confirming Percy's parentage is essential and until they clear

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this up or get any news on brother Reginald, they are at stalemate.

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We need to get that birth.

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Coming up:

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The plot thickens when Bob gets hold of Percy's birth certificate.

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Estates can remain on the unsolved list for up to 30 years.

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This offers determined heir hunters the opportunity to return

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and take a fresh look at those trickier cases

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which stumped them the first time around.

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The case of Arthur Frederick Comaskey

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was first advertised by the Treasury in 2002.

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The estate was valued at a healthy £60,000

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so it seemed like a case worth investigating for Peter Birchwood

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and his family run business, Celtic Research, based in Wales.

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We have an awful lot of cases on our files that for some

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reason or another haven't been solved

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but we have a policy that we go over them regularly and Comaskey

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was one that we picked out to do some research as soon as we knew we had a good, reliable agent

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up in Edinburgh who could do the work for us.

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Arthur Comaskey was found dead in his home in 2000

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in Westcliff-on-Sea.

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No photo survives of him.

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Clive Johnson was Arthur's neighbour many years ago

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and remembers seeing him regularly around the local area.

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He was a jolly man. Well-dressed.

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He always had sort of trousers and a shirt and a nice jacket.

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He always gave the impression he had been a professional of some sort.

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He used to just walk up and down the road and he used to say hello.

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I never saw him with anybody else.

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Maybe, as I say, he was always on his own.

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The isolation that Arthur experienced is a common tale.

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Every year, hundreds of people in the UK pass away

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with no-one to take care of them

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and when this happens there is a safety net in place.

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It is the job of people like Gary Green,

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a bereavement officer, to manage the death of someone like Arthur.

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In the case of Arthur Comaskey,

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we were informed of his death by the coroner's office

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and the coroner's office were unable to trace any next of kin.

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Part of Gary's job as a bereavement officer is also to search

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the house looking for any family connections.

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Firstly we would look at possibly all the mail that was on the floor,

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if the deceased had been there for some time.

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That is, that would give us

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a telltale sign of their up-to-date life.

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We would then go and look in cabinets, drawers, whatever.

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Under the bed and even in the kitchen,

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we've actually found, found some papers there,

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in the kitchen cupboards.

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If we find a will then normally it's bingo.

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In Arthur's case, they found no will or evidence of family in the house.

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Therefore they requested that the local authority actually

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deal with the actual funeral arrangements

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and we referred the estate to the Treasury solicitor.

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It seems Arthur was a reclusive character

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but he was committed to his profession

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and worked at Johnson Controls from the early '70s

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as a precision engineer until he was made redundant in 1991.

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Former colleague, Alan Easter remembers Arthur from the factory.

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Johnson Controls used to make car seats.

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He used to go around every day,

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checking the component parts were made correctly.

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He was quite a quiet man. Kept himself to himself.

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I don't know anybody who really knew him very well.

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Well I know he used to be a member of St John's Ambulance.

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He used to be doing that most weekends. That was his real life, I think.

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When heir hunter Peter started looking for Arthur's family,

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he was looking for aunts, uncles and cousins as beneficiaries.

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As he could find no living relatives on his father's side,

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he concentrated his search on the family of Arthur's mother

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who were from Scotland.

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Turned out to be Scottish.

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We knew he'd been an engineer

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but he wasn't born in the area where he died.

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From that we just started trying to do the family tree.

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Arthur's mother was Sarah Ann Stewart who married

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Victor Comaskey in 1928 and in the same year they had their only

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child Arthur Frederick, born in Wandsworth in London.

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But work on the maternal side proved complicated.

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This family, on the whole, were not consistent with spelling

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so it did take us an awful lot of time to find the relatives,

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also because the family jumped across the border to England and then back

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to Scotland and then back to England again,

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probably as work directed.

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Arthur's maternal grandparents were Adam and Margaret Stewart

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and they had six children, including Arthur's mother, Sarah.

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But it was Adam and his employment in particular that determined

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the fate of this family.

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Adam Stuart, the grandfather, was by trade an engine fitter,

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moving between Merseyside and Glasgow with the trade of engine fitter.

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It's a pretty good assumption

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that he's going to be working in the docks.

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It was starting to look like Arthur

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had descended from a long line of engineers,

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and in the late 1800s the best place for an engineer was on the Mersey.

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The Liverpudlian shipping industry at this time was booming

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and as an engine fitter, Adam Stewart's skills were valuable.

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It seems he took the decision to move from Scotland

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to Liverpool for work

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and this is where he met his wife Margaret Collie,

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who was born in Birkenhead.

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According to records from this period, Margaret and Adam

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settled into one of the terraced worker's houses, close to the docks.

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After marrying in 1884, they had their first child,

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William, two years later.

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The young Stewart family took advantage of the booming ship building industry

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and Adam took a job with the renowned Laird Brothers.

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In 1858 they'd built the world's first steel ship

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and they did a lot of work for the Royal Navy.

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Laird's was obviously the biggest employer in Birkenhead

0:20:490:20:52

and one of the biggest employers in the region.

0:20:520:20:55

The shipyard was huge and obviously,

0:20:550:20:58

it attracted workers from basically all over the country because

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Birkenhead itself was growing and the shipbuilding industry was growing.

0:21:020:21:05

People with skills and trades would be attracted there

0:21:050:21:08

and they obviously worked and lived in the town.

0:21:080:21:12

An engine fitter's job would have involved obviously installing

0:21:120:21:16

the engines and other related machinery into a ship.

0:21:160:21:20

A lot of the time they'd be working in cramped, confined conditions.

0:21:200:21:24

It would be oily, hot, dusty and probably incredibly noisy.

0:21:240:21:29

A skilled tradesman like Adam would be paid possibly 25,

0:21:290:21:33

30 shillings a week.

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At that time, it was quite a good wage

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because he could raise a family and get by on that.

0:21:380:21:40

But a couple of decades later,

0:21:420:21:44

it looked as though the boom time for the shipping industry had sailed.

0:21:440:21:47

Immediately after the turn of the century were lean years

0:21:470:21:52

and it's entirely possible that Adam decided to try his luck

0:21:520:21:56

back home in Scotland.

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Of course, that was also the early years of the motor industry.

0:22:000:22:04

The skills of an engine fitter could also obviously equally be

0:22:040:22:07

applied to motorcars as they could to ships

0:22:070:22:10

so I'm sure he may well have been among those early car engine builders

0:22:100:22:15

because car engines, in essence, are basically the same

0:22:150:22:18

as marine engines except they used petrol or diesel instead of steam.

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Arthur's grandfather Adam was the main breadwinner

0:22:260:22:29

and with six young mouths to feed,

0:22:290:22:31

he had no choice but to take his family where the work was.

0:22:310:22:36

Which made the search for heirs that little bit harder.

0:22:360:22:40

They would maybe in one year be in Birkenhead

0:22:400:22:43

and a couple of years later, they'd go back to Glasgow, to Scotland.

0:22:430:22:48

Although it meant that we were looking in two different

0:22:480:22:51

sets of records, we could manage to follow them.

0:22:510:22:54

Coming up:

0:22:540:22:56

Peter Birchwood uncovers heirs to Arthur's estate

0:22:560:22:59

who find themselves unsettled by his revelations.

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It's slightly alarming, I suppose, to know that we weren't

0:23:030:23:07

aware of somebody who has been so comparatively close in the family.

0:23:070:23:12

Every year, hundreds of cases are cracked by heir hunters

0:23:170:23:21

across the UK but there are always a few estates that remain a mystery,

0:23:210:23:24

finding themselves in the unsolved file.

0:23:240:23:27

Could you help trace the beneficiaries?

0:23:270:23:30

These cases could be worth anything from £5,000 to millions,

0:23:300:23:34

and they're waiting to be claimed.

0:23:340:23:37

Today, we have three names from the unsolved list,

0:23:370:23:40

could you be eligible to inherit a fortune?

0:23:400:23:43

Winifred Connie Bartholomew died in November 2003,

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aged 85 in Reading, Berkshire.

0:23:500:23:53

Did you know Winifred? Could you be entitled to her estate?

0:23:530:23:57

Eileen Emmuska Lytton died in Lymington in Hampshire

0:23:590:24:03

in September 2003.

0:24:030:24:05

She was 95-years-old.

0:24:050:24:07

Eileen's surname is very unusual, does it sound familiar to you?

0:24:080:24:11

Philip William John Oldroyd died in Southall, Middlesex in October 2008.

0:24:130:24:20

Do you remember Philip from many years ago but maybe you lost touch?

0:24:200:24:24

Can you help find his beneficiaries?

0:24:240:24:26

If these three estates are not claimed, the money will go

0:24:270:24:30

to the government, but if the names mean anything to you

0:24:300:24:34

or someone you know, you could be in line to inherit.

0:24:340:24:37

In London the team at Fraser and Fraser

0:24:430:24:46

are trying to find heirs to the estimated £50,000 estate

0:24:460:24:49

of Vera Humphrey, who died in 2003.

0:24:490:24:54

Mike and Bob Humphrey have fond memories of their stepmother.

0:24:540:24:59

She'd sit in front of the TV all day watching Wimbledon

0:24:590:25:02

for the whole fortnight.

0:25:020:25:06

-Yes. Sports stuff, anything really.

-Snooker.

0:25:060:25:09

She loved, could name all the snooker players.

0:25:090:25:11

She knew what she enjoyed and she tried to indulge, which is great.

0:25:110:25:16

So far the team have learnt that Vera had a brother but they don't know what happened to him.

0:25:190:25:23

He could have died without having children, so the team are hedging

0:25:230:25:27

their bets and looking for potential heirs in Vera's wider family.

0:25:270:25:31

Vera's father Percy is also causing the team problems

0:25:320:25:38

as he may have been born illegitimately.

0:25:380:25:42

Bob Barrett has been sent to Weymouth to find Percy's birth certificate

0:25:420:25:45

and while the team wait for his update, they're hitting the phones,

0:25:450:25:49

calling the dozens of potential cousins who could be heirs.

0:25:490:25:53

Six pages and we've got miles to go.

0:25:530:25:56

Your father, I'm hoping, was George Henry Tovey

0:25:560:25:58

and he was married to Edith Ann, your mum.

0:25:580:26:01

This estate relates to someone who would have been a cousin

0:26:010:26:04

to your father so someone you wouldn't personally know.

0:26:040:26:08

Your father's entitlement would obviously pass down to his kids

0:26:080:26:11

so that would be yourself, Leslie, Patricia and Eileen, I think.

0:26:110:26:16

I don't know, was there any other siblings at all? Leonard.

0:26:160:26:19

With Bob still waiting for Percy's birth certificate,

0:26:190:26:21

Dave can't help but speculate

0:26:210:26:24

as to why William and Martha Tovey might have listed Percy,

0:26:240:26:27

Vera's father, as one of their own children on the 1881 census.

0:26:270:26:32

Obviously we're talking in the 1880s, it would have been highly

0:26:330:26:36

embarrassing to have an illegitimate child.

0:26:360:26:39

Totally frowned upon.

0:26:390:26:41

So by registering your child, your daughter's child as your own,

0:26:410:26:45

it's a smokescreen so that no-one would ever know that

0:26:450:26:48

that child was born illegitimately to your daughter.

0:26:480:26:52

Finally Bob has Percy's birth certificate,

0:26:550:26:58

will Dave's suspicions be on the money?

0:26:580:27:01

-All right, what have we got?

-I have one birth certificate.

0:27:010:27:04

-Percy Reginald. Father, William Tovey.

-Yeah.

0:27:040:27:10

-Mother, Ada Tovey, formerly Miller.

-Ada Miller?

0:27:100:27:14

Yeah. Miller.

0:27:140:27:16

Could it be Millard?

0:27:160:27:18

Well, no. It's typed on here, Miller, so...

0:27:180:27:21

That's odd.

0:27:220:27:25

Although Dave and Gareth suspected Percy might have been Ada's illegitimate son,

0:27:250:27:30

the very last thing they expected to find was her father, William Tovey,

0:27:300:27:35

named on the birth certificate as the father of her child.

0:27:350:27:39

It goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.

0:27:400:27:43

If William is the father as the team originally suspected,

0:27:430:27:47

the cousins in the Weymouth area would be heirs.

0:27:470:27:51

But the certificate doesn't make sense and the team are sure there's been a mistake.

0:27:510:27:55

They decided to cross reference Percy's birth

0:27:550:27:58

with another of the Tovey children, Archibald.

0:27:580:28:01

We're thinking if you can perhaps pull up a couple more certificates.

0:28:020:28:06

Right.

0:28:060:28:08

It was an afterthought from Gareth and it's a fair shout, actually.

0:28:080:28:12

-I think it's worth doing.

-So back to the registry office.

0:28:120:28:15

Yeah. Sorry, mate.

0:28:150:28:17

I've requested Archibald's birth certificate,

0:28:180:28:22

purely on the basis to see what the parents' names are.

0:28:220:28:26

It's a bit of a problem because I actually think,

0:28:260:28:30

I still think that Percy is probably the son

0:28:300:28:33

of Ada and she's gone in to register the birth and she's told a few fibs.

0:28:330:28:37

I need that documentation.

0:28:380:28:41

I need it in black and white to say, "This person was the son of X and Y."

0:28:410:28:46

And I don't want their brother and sister's certificate to show

0:28:460:28:49

a different parent because then I've got problems.

0:28:490:28:52

I still think Ada is probably the mother but we might find out now.

0:28:520:28:56

-Hello, Bob.

-Right, I've managed to get another birth.

0:28:590:29:03

Archibald. Father, William Tovey.

0:29:030:29:07

-Mother, Martha Tovey.

-Yeah.

0:29:070:29:10

Formerly Millard.

0:29:100:29:13

When the team compare the two birth certificates,

0:29:130:29:16

all the information matches apart from the mother's name

0:29:160:29:19

and company partner Neil has his own theory about why this might be.

0:29:190:29:22

We're looking at similarities.

0:29:220:29:24

The addresses and informants are the same,

0:29:240:29:26

the father and the occupations are the same.

0:29:260:29:28

It's a possibility it's just a mistake,

0:29:280:29:31

that for some reason the mother's

0:29:310:29:33

been put down as Ada instead of Martha.

0:29:330:29:35

Neil's theory means the family in the Weymouth area would be cousins

0:29:370:29:40

not second cousins, and so they would be heirs.

0:29:400:29:44

The team are now redoubling their efforts to find people

0:29:440:29:48

for Bob to see while he's still in the area.

0:29:480:29:50

Percy's story has been pivotal to the research and it's a story that

0:29:530:29:57

was cut tragically short when he died aged just 37.

0:29:570:30:00

According to Mike and Bob Humphrey, Percy's premature death

0:30:010:30:05

had a devastating affect on his wife Bertha

0:30:050:30:07

and young children Vera and Reginald.

0:30:070:30:11

What happened was that Vera's father died very young

0:30:110:30:14

and the mother had to go out to work.

0:30:140:30:16

They were in lodgings.

0:30:160:30:18

She was leaving the children there, in the lodgings.

0:30:180:30:20

She was frightened of her children not being fed properly and so on

0:30:200:30:25

and she was going out to work and she was simply unable to cope.

0:30:250:30:29

Seeing no other way out, Vera's mother Bertha, was desperate.

0:30:310:30:34

She turned to The Muller Foundation,

0:30:340:30:38

a Christian based organisation

0:30:380:30:40

formed by evangelist George Muller in 1836.

0:30:400:30:43

Children who were full or partial orphans like Reginald

0:30:450:30:48

and Vera were most likely to be granted places

0:30:480:30:51

and could stay from infancy through to their mid teens.

0:30:510:30:55

During their stay they were fed and clothed,

0:30:550:30:58

being raised and educated as God-fearing young people.

0:30:580:31:01

In 1918 Bertha wrote to the home asking for help and amazingly,

0:31:010:31:07

almost 100 years later, her appeal still exists today.

0:31:070:31:13

I have a letter here which says,

0:31:130:31:18

concerning Mrs Tovey, the mother,

0:31:180:31:21

"The above named woman is a widow

0:31:210:31:23

"working at a munitions store in Swindon.

0:31:230:31:26

"The children are delicate and the mother is conscious

0:31:260:31:29

"for them to be taken into some sort of institution.

0:31:290:31:33

"Would such a case be a suitable one for your home?"

0:31:330:31:38

So it would appear from that that having been widowed,

0:31:390:31:42

the mother just couldn't cope with looking after her children.

0:31:420:31:46

Admitted to the orphanage in 1918 aged just two and four respectively,

0:31:520:31:56

Vera and Reginald were housed in separate buildings

0:31:560:31:59

and would only have seen each other once a month.

0:31:590:32:03

Their mother Bertha re-married and it's not clear

0:32:030:32:06

whether she had any further contact with her children.

0:32:060:32:09

Life for Reginald and Vera certainly wouldn't have been easy.

0:32:120:32:16

Life in the homes was hard.

0:32:160:32:19

But it was much better than the alternatives that were open to them.

0:32:220:32:25

Vera spent a total of 16 years in the orphanage

0:32:270:32:29

and her elder brother stayed for ten years.

0:32:290:32:32

They were discharged separately,

0:32:320:32:35

Vera leaving in 1934 and Reginald in 1929.

0:32:350:32:40

Vera went off to be a maid in a house in Swindon

0:32:400:32:44

and Reginald went to be an apprentice to a nurseryman in Weston-super-Mare.

0:32:440:32:48

Shortly after, Reginald emigrated to Canada

0:32:520:32:55

and this was the last contact Vera ever had with her brother.

0:32:550:32:59

Bob is finally on his way to see one of Vera's cousins,

0:33:040:33:07

a potential heir, who lives in Gosport.

0:33:070:33:10

All I've got to show for the day so far,

0:33:100:33:12

I've got two birth certificates and one death certificate.

0:33:120:33:16

It'd be nice if this gentleman was in and signs an agreement with us.

0:33:160:33:19

After a hard day's work,

0:33:220:33:24

might the team's colossal efforts come good in the end?

0:33:240:33:27

Relief, it seems Ronald Tovey is at home.

0:33:300:33:34

-Her father's name was Percy.

-Percy.

0:33:340:33:37

-Oh yeah, Percy was probably the youngest.

-Right.

0:33:370:33:42

-Percy was born in Weymouth, when they moved to Weymouth.

-1880.

0:33:420:33:48

Ronald Tovey's father was Frederick Tovey,

0:33:480:33:52

a grandson to William and Martha Tovey.

0:33:520:33:55

This makes Ronald Vera's cousin once removed.

0:33:550:33:59

Luckily for Bob, Ronald is a keen genealogist himself.

0:33:590:34:03

William is registered as the father

0:34:030:34:06

but the daughter is registered as the mother.

0:34:060:34:09

Yeah. Very peculiar.

0:34:090:34:10

It's finally home time for Bob.

0:34:100:34:12

As Ronald doesn't have time for a meeting today,

0:34:120:34:15

the office will send him an agreement and, if he signs it,

0:34:150:34:18

they'll act on his behalf to help him claim a share of Vera's estate.

0:34:180:34:21

A few days later, Ronald's had time to reflect upon the surprise visit

0:34:240:34:28

and the revelation of a cousin he never knew, Vera.

0:34:280:34:32

We'd never come across Vera's name in our research into the family

0:34:330:34:37

so this was the first I'd ever heard of her.

0:34:370:34:41

I understand that she was my late father's cousin

0:34:410:34:45

from his uncle Percy,

0:34:450:34:47

who was the youngest of 11 children of the family.

0:34:470:34:52

Although we've traced a lot of the other brothers' marriages

0:34:540:34:57

and their children,

0:34:570:34:59

Percy is the very one that we haven't come across anything yet.

0:34:590:35:05

Ronald stands to inherit a share of Vera's estimated £50,000 estate

0:35:070:35:11

and he's already thought about what he may spend the money on.

0:35:110:35:17

2012 will be our diamond wedding.

0:35:170:35:19

We might go on a cruise for our diamond wedding anniversary.

0:35:190:35:23

After 60 years, it would be quite intriguing, wouldn't it?

0:35:230:35:29

A few weeks later,

0:35:290:35:32

the heir hunters are tying up the loose ends of their research

0:35:320:35:35

and Dave has finally found out

0:35:350:35:36

what happened to Vera's elusive brother Reginald.

0:35:360:35:39

It would appear that he went out to Canada

0:35:390:35:43

on what was known as the Manitoba Boys' Group.

0:35:430:35:47

It was a ship destined for Halifax, Nova Scotia.

0:35:470:35:50

It would appear that all the boys in the group were orphans,

0:35:520:35:55

probably destined for rural farm work.

0:35:550:35:57

After that, unfortunately the trail goes cold.

0:36:000:36:03

As it stands at the moment, I've located up to 60 paternal beneficiaries

0:36:040:36:09

who would be entitled in the estate

0:36:090:36:11

so the estate's expanding quicker than my waistline at the moment.

0:36:110:36:15

But crucially, Neil has had news from the Treasury

0:36:150:36:18

that the family's claim has been accepted.

0:36:180:36:22

The Treasury have now agreed with us and agreed with my theory, really,

0:36:220:36:27

that Ada is Percy's sister, William is Percy's father,

0:36:270:36:32

Martha is Percy's mother

0:36:320:36:34

and we're dealing with first cousins of the whole blood.

0:36:340:36:37

It's good news, really. There is however some bad news.

0:36:370:36:41

The value's come back at £13,000.

0:36:410:36:43

So we've got an awful lot of beneficiaries, all cousins,

0:36:430:36:46

but the estate's pretty small.

0:36:460:36:48

In 2002 Peter Birchwood of Celtic Research

0:36:530:36:57

began investigating the case of Arthur Comaskey, who died in 2000,

0:36:570:37:01

leaving behind an estate worth £60,000.

0:37:010:37:04

On the maternal side,

0:37:040:37:07

Peter traced Arthur's industrious grandfather Adam Stewart,

0:37:070:37:11

an engine builder, working in the Liverpudlian shipping industry.

0:37:110:37:15

In the late 1800s, Adam decided to return to his homeland of Glasgow

0:37:160:37:20

and jumped on the bandwagon of the next big thing.

0:37:200:37:24

Hot on the heels of the steam ship, was the motorcar.

0:37:260:37:29

Back then, manufacturing was done by hand, far from the mass production methods used today.

0:37:290:37:35

The first motorcar designed and built in the UK was

0:37:350:37:38

built by the Glaswegian Scottish company of Arrol-Johnston in 1895.

0:37:380:37:44

Glasgow was by the sea, of course.

0:37:460:37:48

In those days, canals,

0:37:490:37:52

ships were bringing things from all over the world.

0:37:520:37:54

Craftsmen were there, the power was there,

0:37:540:37:58

the iron and steel was there.

0:37:580:38:00

All the essential ingredients for an emergent motorcar industry.

0:38:000:38:04

The shipbuilding industry was tough. It was hard.

0:38:060:38:10

There were big machines, it was hot and smelly.

0:38:100:38:13

Motorcars were much lighter, much easier to work on and work around.

0:38:130:38:17

Of course you're working in sort of early garages

0:38:170:38:20

which would have been warm and dry.

0:38:200:38:23

It was a much gentler existence and so attracted a lot of the shipbuilding people.

0:38:230:38:27

Indeed, the motor industry also enticed Adam Stewart away from ship building.

0:38:280:38:32

And 100 years later, his grandson Arthur Comaskey found he too

0:38:320:38:37

had a career as an engineer in the motor industry.

0:38:370:38:40

Adam continued to live and work in Glasgow until his death in 1937.

0:38:450:38:50

Many of his six children, Arthur's aunts and uncles,

0:38:500:38:54

had children of their own

0:38:540:38:56

and they became the focus of Peter's search

0:38:560:38:59

for heirs to Arthur's £60,000 estate.

0:38:590:39:02

We started finding people,

0:39:040:39:06

one of whom is in his 90s and living up just north of Glasgow.

0:39:060:39:13

The rest of the family members we came across in England

0:39:140:39:19

and Scotland so they're all over.

0:39:190:39:21

Adam's son, John Stewart, married Lily McFarland

0:39:230:39:26

and had three children,

0:39:260:39:28

Dorothy, Lily and Harry, Arthur's cousins.

0:39:280:39:31

Lily died so her children inherit her part of the estate.

0:39:330:39:37

One of them, David Preston,

0:39:370:39:40

was taken aback at the discovery of his cousin Arthur.

0:39:400:39:44

It was slightly alarming, I suppose, to know that we weren't

0:39:440:39:47

aware of somebody who has been so comparatively close in the family.

0:39:470:39:53

And David's brother Robert was also intrigued to find out

0:39:530:39:56

more about their elusive relation.

0:39:560:39:59

It did make you think that it's sad that somebody has died

0:40:000:40:04

and didn't leave a will

0:40:040:40:06

and didn't have any friends or family to leave what they owned to.

0:40:060:40:11

It must have been quite sad circumstances for that to happen.

0:40:110:40:15

It wasn't until two years after Peter Birchwood initially

0:40:160:40:19

got in touch with the Prestons and they'd received their cheques

0:40:190:40:24

that they were able to learn about their long-lost cousin.

0:40:240:40:27

I found out about Arthur right at the end.

0:40:270:40:31

My aunt Dorothy contacted me.

0:40:310:40:34

She said, "Yes, I used to meet him when I was a young girl,"

0:40:340:40:39

in the '30s, I suppose it would be.

0:40:390:40:42

Dorothy's aunt lived with the parents

0:40:420:40:45

and was separated from her husband, Mr Comaskey.

0:40:450:40:49

So Arthur was the son and according to Dorothy, you know,

0:40:490:40:55

he was a slightly strange little boy.

0:40:550:40:59

Her description was that in today's terms,

0:41:000:41:05

he might have been suffering

0:41:050:41:07

from some degree of Asperger's or something like that.

0:41:070:41:10

Although the family knew very little about Arthur's life,

0:41:130:41:16

it seems Robert and Phillip had more in common

0:41:160:41:19

with their cousin than they first thought.

0:41:190:41:21

The shipbuilding link makes a lot of sense.

0:41:210:41:25

I can understand that if they lived around about Birkenhead,

0:41:250:41:30

that would've been a main centre for shipbuilding.

0:41:300:41:33

That's where my great-grandfather would have got his experience from

0:41:330:41:38

that would have enabled him to move in to working on motor mechanics.

0:41:380:41:43

I was an engineer myself. I worked in the chemical industry.

0:41:460:41:51

My brother, Phillip, is a civil engineer.

0:41:510:41:54

I've got a son who's a civil engineer as well.

0:41:540:41:58

Despite being a somewhat reclusive man,

0:41:580:42:00

Arthur clearly felt at home in the engineering world too,

0:42:000:42:05

much like his long-lost family.

0:42:050:42:07

Both of my brothers are engineers.

0:42:070:42:10

I, of course, benefited from a classical education

0:42:100:42:13

and moved into a non-engineering profession.

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Shipbuilding and the sea, I think, have always been in the blood.

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