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Heir hunters earn their money tracing the relatives of people who've died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds

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to family members who had no idea they were in line to inherit.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme, the heir hunters take a gamble

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as they challenge an 80-year-old law in pursuit of an unclaimed estate.

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If any case is ever going to be accepted, this is the one.

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The decision is really the Treasury solicitor's,

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and I wouldn't like to call it.

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And 50 years after an industrial accident,

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the search is on for heirs to £55,000 of unclaimed compensation.

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I didn't know at this time who the person was that had left the money,

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but I was surprised there was anybody left to leave anything.

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Plus, how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates

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where beneficiaries still need to be found.

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Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

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Each year in the UK, an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found, then any money that's left behind

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will go to the government.

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And last year they pocketed £12 million from unclaimed estates.

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That's where the heir hunters come in.

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They make it their business to track down missing relatives

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and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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I love the fact that I can put families back together,

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I can reunite people, I can tell them secret histories

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about their own family they don't actually know about themselves.

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The Treasury have released their weekly list of unclaimed estates

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and across the UK heir hunters are pouring over the details.

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Fraser & Fraser is one of 30 firms competing to find heirs to estates

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which could be worth anything from £5,000 to many millions.

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How many births have we got on that quarter, Noel?

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Unfortunately, this week's list has failed to offer any rich pickings,

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so partner Neil Fraser has decided to revisit an unsolved case from the archives.

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On this case of Ivy Hudson, it's a case we've had in our cabinets

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since 2003, 2004, when Ivy passed away.

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It's only now we've come back and had a second look at that, and it's 2010.

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The reason being is we couldn't get on to the family when we first looked at it.

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We found two marriage certificates, we found a death certificate,

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all of which confirming the same age,

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but we were never able to locate a birth

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which went with that information.

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Neil's especially keen to solve this case

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because, unusually, he knows the value - £25,000.

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To guard against fraud,

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the Treasury's list doesn't show the values of estates.

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But this is crucial information for the heir hunters,

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because they usually work for a pre-agreed percentage.

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We only get money if the beneficiaries we find get money,

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and if we find a beneficiary and they're only entitled to £100,

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I may only get £10 out of it.

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But Ivy's Hudson's estate was advertised in 2003,

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when the list still included values.

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The team immediately began the search for heirs,

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but they couldn't find any trace of family

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so the case got put to one side.

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Today, though, there's hope they may finally be able to make some progress.

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The recent release of the 1911 census

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has opened up a brand-new line of enquiry.

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This 1911 census is the most crucial piece of documentation

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to help us establish who the next of kin to the deceased is.

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The team has begun searching the new records

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for the name Ivy Marguerite Hudson.

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Will the census yield any names of brothers or sisters?

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Born in 1900, Ivy worked as a Red Cross nurse

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during the Second World War.

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When the conflict ended, she became a hairdresser

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and lived in Kent for most of her life.

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Ivy was married twice,

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and died in November, 2003, at the staggering age of 103.

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While she was surrounded by friends all her life,

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she never had children and so left no descendants.

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Jacqueline Williams was one of Ivy's closest friends.

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Ivy was my mum's best friend.

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She was a travelling hairdresser in Petts Wood after the War,

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and she came to do my mum's hair,

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and they met and she became part of our family.

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She was a widow, she lived on her own,

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and, in a sense, you know, her friends were her family.

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They were the family she'd built in the absence of her own family.

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Ivy's natural charisma and zest for life

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made a lasting impact on friends like Simon Bentley.

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She was a lady of incredible honesty

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and integrity and humour.

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She made me laugh, I like to think I made her laugh.

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She loved Abba, I love Abba.

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Her favourite song was I Have A Dream,

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and we'd sit down and sing I Have A Dream together.

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I regarded her as a really loved friend.

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So I take a lot of pleasure from my time on Earth with Ivy,

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and she won't be forgotten.

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In the office, the team has had a breakthrough with the 1911 census.

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Here we have George Telford, the head, and his wife, Annie,

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and there's Ivy, the deceased, shown clearly as the daughter.

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The census shows Ivy came from the Telford family and had six siblings.

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But there's a twist.

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I've just literally located the first of the nephews and nieces on this estate.

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What transpires from this conversation is that

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they believe that Ivy was not a natural child

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born to their grandparents, George and Annie,

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but was raised by them.

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Ivy was adopted by the Telford family,

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and these days that would make them legal blood relatives.

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But, because the adoption happened in 1901, there's a problem.

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The problem is that legal adoption was started by the 1926 Adoption Act,

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which came into force in 1927,

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so any adoption before 1927 is a non-legal, informal adoption.

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Informal adoptions aren't recognised by the Treasury

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which means Ivy's adoptive family would not be allowed to inherit.

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But, because the Telfords were the only family Ivy knew,

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the team think they may have a case.

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Every now and then you have to test this law,

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and you have to put in a test case

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to make sure that the old rules are still standing.

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The company want to help Ivy's adoptive family put in a claim.

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They've spoken to Anita Goodwin,

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who is the daughter of Stanley Telford - Ivy's adoptive brother.

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Anita, who is known as Ann, lives in Bristol with husband Peter.

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The couple came across references to Ivy in old family papers.

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I never met Ivy, and I didn't really know very much about her

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until after my father died and I inherited his letter

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that he'd had about her adoption,

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which was her mother signing her over to my grandparents

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when Ivy was eight months old.

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The letter reveals what must have been a difficult decision

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by Ivy's biological mother.

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"I entirely renounce any claim whatsoever on the person of the child,

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"Ivy Marguerite Hunt, from this time forth."

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And it's signed Gertrude Alice Hunt.

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I think it's such a sad little letter.

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This is what's made me interested in Ivy,

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in trying to find out something about her,

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and about her mother, but it's proving a bit difficult.

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Perhaps her mother couldn't keep her, wasn't married,

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and it was a very difficult time to be having a baby

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that you couldn't keep and that didn't have a father.

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In the early 1900s, there were still thousands of children

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either living rough or in appalling conditions in work houses.

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Determined to combat the problem,

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The Salvation Army recruited foster families to take children in.

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As Ann's grandfather was a committed Salvationist,

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it's likely he volunteered.

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He joined The Salvation Army in, uh, 1908.

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I have the paper where he signed, it's called the Articles Of War,

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and you have to sign these Articles

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to be enrolled as a soldier in the Salvation Army.

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He was very strict, and you weren't allowed

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to listen to the radio on Sundays, he would turn the electricity off.

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Ivy never came into conversation at all, as far as I can remember.

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I don't remember my grandmother - my grandparents lived with us -

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but I don't remember my grandmother ever mentioning her.

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Sadly, Ann never met Ivy, but she may still be an heir to her estate

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if the heir hunters can successfully challenge inheritance laws.

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In London, Dave Slee and his team are gathering information

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to try and support Ann's claim,

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and the letter from Ivy's biological mother could be crucial.

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Adoptions which happened before the 1927 Adoption Act

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are considered informal, and therefore invalid.

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But the letter suggests that Ivy's adoption was done

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as formally as was possible in 1901.

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The deceased was given up for adoption by her mother

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to George and Annie Telford, who were then living in Leytonstone.

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It's written in 1901 on headed notepaper from Shaftesbury Avenue.

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If the address is the office of a lawyer or solicitor,

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it could help show that the adoption was formally done.

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We have here the 1900 Kelly's Directory,

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which is a forerunner of our modern telephone directory.

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And under Shaftesbury Avenue, which we should find...

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Here we have Shaftesbury Avenue, number 17...

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..and there we are, it was the offices of a Samuel Bartlett, a solicitor.

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So we now know that the letter written by the deceased's mother

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in 1901 was on the headed notepaper of a solicitor.

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This is exactly what he hoped to find.

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They can now prove that Ivy's adoption took place

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formally in the offices of a solicitor.

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It's the star piece of evidence among a pile of documents

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that prove the link between Ivy and the Telfords.

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I'll furnish the Treasury solicitors

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with a copy of the deceased's second marriage certificate,

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which clearly states her father is George Telford,

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the 1911 census, which clearly again states

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that she was the daughter of George and Annie Telford,

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and, crucially, the letter from our client, the 1901 letter of the mother

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stating that she wished to place, for adoption, the deceased

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into the hands of George and Annie Telford.

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With such a strong paper trail, Neil is cautiously optimistic.

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We've spoken to quite a lot of beneficiaries,

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or potential beneficiaries.

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We've been careful to explain to them all the time

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that there's a problem with this estate,

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a problem trying to submit their paperwork,

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and there's a possibility that they won't be beneficiaries.

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However, we think this is as strong a case as we could ever put forward

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for a relatively small value,

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and if any case is ever going to be accepted, this is the one.

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Ann could be in for a share of the £25,000 estate,

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but her main interest is finding out more about Ivy.

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I'm already working off the idea that, if they say it's no,

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your claim isn't successful, saying, "Yeah, all right,

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"I don't want the money, but did she leave newspaper cuttings,

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"or has she got anything about her life, has she got photos and things?"

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I mean, you never know if they're going to give you somebody's

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possessions from seven years ago.

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They might be two black bin bags full of old nighties, mightn't they?

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May I particularly welcome Ivy?

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APPLAUSE

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We are so pleased to see you here.

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What Ann doesn't yet know is that Ivy had a large surrogate family

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of friends and loved ones who could satisfy her desire to know more.

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And there she is at our house.

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Jacqueline Williams and her daughter, Laura,

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were close friends of Ivy for many years.

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It hadn't been the happiest of childhoods.

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She talked with great affection about the children

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and about taking them out to play and so on,

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but she didn't feel as if she was as much a part of the family

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as the other children were, she always felt like an outsider.

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And on the morning of her 18th birthday,

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without telling any of the family,

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she packed her battered little suitcase,

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put a nightie and a few other bits and pieces in it,

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and walked out of the door and made a life for herself.

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The two halves of Ivy's life have been separate for over 80 years.

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Will the heir hunt bring them together?

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When the heir hunters were asked to look at the case of Norah Jackson,

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they uncovered the shocking tale of a tragic factory accident

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and a compensation payout that had gone unclaimed for over 50 years.

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Their challenge was to find the long-lost relative

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who would inherit an estate worth £55,000.

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The case fell to probate research firm Hoopers.

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Like many heir hunters, their work is varied,

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ranging from Treasury cases to solicitor referrals

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but this case came from a more unusual source.

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This case of Norah Jackson was referred to us by the Court Funds Office,

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a body who look after monies awarded as compensation,

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as far as I can understand.

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They had quite a number of these cases but this was the largest of its type

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and there was a sum in excess of £50,000,

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which they'd held for many, many years and they had no idea who was entitled to it

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and so they asked us if we could bring our expertise to bear

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and try and discover who should have this money.

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The Court Funds Office handles money that passes through the civil courts.

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They hold hundreds of millions of pounds for people who've been awarded damages or compensation.

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Vast amounts of this money is sitting unclaimed.

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We presently have approximately £85 million,

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which represents several thousand potential beneficiaries

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out there who have either lost contact with Court Funds Office

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or who we can't establish a claim for.

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In the last three years, the Court Funds Office has reunited people with payouts totalling £60 million.

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But in the case of Norah Jackson they've drawn a blank

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and her £55,000 estate was still unclaimed.

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The information we were given was very limited.

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Almost nothing at all.

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All we had was a name,

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and a snippet of information about their belief

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that Norah - Norah Jackson - had died in the 1980s.

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The problem was that even if we had stumbled across the correct death record,

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we didn't really know how we were going to prove that was her death record.

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We had nothing to go on.

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It would be several weeks before Mike would unravel the mystery of Norah

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and her husband James Jackson.

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Married in their late 30s, just at the end of the Second World War,

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Norah and James Jackson set up life together in East Manchester.

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Kay Street is now an industrial area,

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but at the time, it was a typical working-class terrace.

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In 1950, Norah's husband James found a job working as a maintenance man

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in a factory which made wire cables.

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The factory no longer exists,

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but in its day it employed hundreds of people.

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In the 1950s, places like this would be hives of activity.

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There would be a great amount of noise, machinery working,

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and workers would be in close proximity to the machines

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and that's how accidents happened.

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Training was very sparse.

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The only indication we would have would be the notice of the Factories Act posted on the factory wall

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or special regulations with machinery required,

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but people got on with the job.

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They had to take risks in some cases

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and sometimes these risks resulted in accidents.

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Just five weeks after starting at the factory,

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James Jackson had an horrific accident.

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He'd climbed an iron ladder to clean lamps in one of the workshops

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when an overhead crane caught his bucket.

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As I understand the circumstances, he was only recently employed,

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so he wouldn't be aware of the situation in that factory

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in the way that perhaps long-term employees would be

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so he put himself into a situation where he was at risk,

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and that situation obviously developed into a fatal accident.

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Terry O'Grady worked at the factory a decade later

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when the same cranes were still in operation.

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The crane mainly ran on the overheads on the RSJs

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and it used to lift the big billets which was quite heavy.

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It used to lift them into position.

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He was in charge of half a ton of whatever it might be, and he was moving it along himself.

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If somebody was kneeling down, you know,

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you wouldn't necessarily see them.

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It didn't happen while I was there, to be honest, but it was a possibility.

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Overall, within factories and workshops,

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every year it was probably between 600 and 1,000 people killed.

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So if you take that over, say, 50 years,

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you could fill Wembley Stadium with the number of people

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that were actually killed in workshops and factories.

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Unseen by the crane driver, James was knocked from his ladder

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and crushed to death on the tracks.

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The accident sent shockwaves through the factory community

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and was still discussed years later.

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I did hear something once about a chap what was killed well before my time there.

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I think it was around the '50s, it was quite a serious accident.

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It wasn't mentioned a lot

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but I did remember some of the older guys mentioning that somebody had been killed on the premises.

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Depending on the type of injury that a worker experienced,

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he would be compensated.

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There were nominal sums appropriate if you lost a leg or an arm or an eye,

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there were appropriate sums allocated.

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If a workman was killed,

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then obviously it would be his beneficiaries who would be compensated.

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So, for example, his wife would probably be awarded a fairly nominal pension.

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Court records showed that Norah was indeed awarded compensation for the death of her husband,

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but a rather dated payout practice was in place.

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Once I received the case, I did a bit of research of my own

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and I discovered that back in the '50s and before,

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when money was awarded to a widow in a case typical of this

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when we have industrial compensation,

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it was deemed that widows were incapable

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to look after their own financial affairs

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and therefore when an award was made

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the money was kept by the court and doled out to the widow as and when she needed it.

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At just 44 years old,

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Norah found herself in a desperately sad situation.

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There she was, a young widow, no husband, no children, probably no prospects.

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Just after the war, when times were pretty tough.

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So, you know, it's rather sad, really.

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Just five years after her husband had died, Norah also passed away.

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In the case of the widow's fund,

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it's quite possible that the sum of money can be left unclaimed.

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If, for instance, the widow dies and there is no obvious route

0:22:290:22:34

that the Court Funds Office can trace to a beneficiary.

0:22:340:22:37

Norah's compensation sat gaining interest for over 50 years

0:22:390:22:43

until it was worth a staggering £55,000.

0:22:430:22:47

It would be a huge and unexpected windfall for one long-lost relative.

0:22:470:22:52

Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year,

0:22:560:22:59

ensuring that millions of pounds are paid out to the rightful heirs,

0:22:590:23:03

but not every case can be cracked.

0:23:030:23:05

The Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates that have baffled the heir hunters and remain unclaimed.

0:23:050:23:12

These estates stay on the list for up to 30 years

0:23:120:23:15

and each one could be worth anything from £5,000 to many millions.

0:23:150:23:21

Today we're focusing on three names from the list.

0:23:210:23:24

Are they relatives of yours?

0:23:240:23:26

Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

0:23:260:23:29

Matthew Balogun died on New Year's Eve in 2005.

0:23:320:23:36

He lived in Lambeth and was just 59.

0:23:360:23:38

If his heirs aren't found, his money will go to the government.

0:23:400:23:44

Or did you know Constance Marjorie Absolon,

0:23:460:23:50

who came from Huntingdon in Cambridgeshire?

0:23:500:23:53

She died in 2000, aged 91.

0:23:530:23:56

No-one's come forward to claim her estate.

0:23:570:24:00

Also on the list is David Beck

0:24:000:24:03

who died in Margate on New Year's Day in 2009.

0:24:030:24:07

So far, all efforts to trace his relatives have drawn a blank.

0:24:070:24:11

If the names Matthew Balogun, Constance Absolon

0:24:110:24:14

or David Beck mean anything to you or someone you know,

0:24:140:24:17

you could have a fortune coming your way.

0:24:170:24:20

In 2008, a team of heir hunters were searching for relatives of Norah Jackson.

0:24:260:24:32

The value in her estate came from compensation paid out

0:24:320:24:36

after her husband died in a terrible factory accident.

0:24:360:24:39

After sitting unclaimed for 53 years,

0:24:390:24:42

this compensation was now worth a staggering £55,000,

0:24:420:24:46

but could the rightful heirs be found?

0:24:460:24:49

My immediate reaction when seeing the name Norah Jackson

0:24:490:24:53

was that it's a common name, we're going to have problems here

0:24:530:24:57

because we've got very limited information.

0:24:570:25:00

And so... But we can only work with what we're given.

0:25:000:25:04

So, our first task is to try and identify her death.

0:25:040:25:09

If we can identify when and where she died

0:25:090:25:12

then that would begin to piece together the jigsaw.

0:25:120:25:17

Mike and his team scoured their records

0:25:190:25:21

to try and find the right death certificate for Norah Jackson.

0:25:210:25:25

But, with so little information to go on, they drew a blank.

0:25:250:25:28

Well, after many weeks of looking for her death

0:25:280:25:31

and failing to pinpoint her death record,

0:25:310:25:35

I looked again at the information that we were given and...

0:25:350:25:42

I was drawn to the little snippet of information

0:25:420:25:46

about her next of kin given in her records.

0:25:460:25:52

There was a Mrs Kirk

0:25:530:25:54

and so I diverted my attention into that direction.

0:25:540:25:59

Didn't manage to find Mrs Kirk - she had died -

0:26:010:26:04

but I managed to find her daughter

0:26:040:26:07

and, as a result of that, I called Mrs Brownhill -

0:26:070:26:11

as she was, her married name -

0:26:110:26:14

and we had a very interesting conversation.

0:26:140:26:18

And that is the point I would say was the breakthrough in this case.

0:26:180:26:22

It was that conversation with Mrs Kirk's daughter.

0:26:220:26:26

The phone call gave Mike two key pieces of information -

0:26:280:26:31

that Norah's husband was James and that he'd died in an accident.

0:26:310:26:35

Armed with the information that we'd just got from Mrs Brownhill,

0:26:350:26:40

the first thing to do was to find James Jackson's death.

0:26:400:26:47

We needed to identify his death and then could build a picture from that.

0:26:470:26:51

She only was able to tell us

0:26:510:26:53

that he had died at some stage in the early '50s.

0:26:530:26:56

We eventually found the correct death record for James Jackson.

0:26:560:27:01

Crucially, the death certificate allowed them to find

0:27:020:27:05

a record of James and Norah's marriage.

0:27:050:27:08

We discovered that they married in 1945, in Manchester.

0:27:080:27:11

Once we obtained a copy of the marriage certificate,

0:27:110:27:14

that not only gave us all HIS details -

0:27:140:27:18

his age, his occupation, his father's name and occupation -

0:27:180:27:23

but it also gave us Norah Hargreaves, his bride's age

0:27:230:27:28

and also gave us her father's name.

0:27:280:27:32

And so that meant that we could start looking for her birth certificate.

0:27:320:27:37

The team were now making real progress

0:27:370:27:39

and, with Norah's birth details,

0:27:390:27:42

they were able to begin building a family tree.

0:27:420:27:45

We, first of all, eliminated her parents, who had predeceased her,

0:27:450:27:51

so then we looked for brothers and sisters

0:27:510:27:55

because they would be the next in line.

0:27:550:27:57

Because she died, obviously, she died without children.

0:27:570:28:00

And we discovered she had three brothers,

0:28:000:28:03

two of whom had died before her, so they were out of the frame.

0:28:030:28:07

But there was on remaining brother - Arnold - who did survive her.

0:28:070:28:12

Norah's money would have gone to her brother Arnold

0:28:140:28:17

but as he'd died it went to his wife, Phyllis.

0:28:170:28:21

In her will, Phyllis left her estate to her nephew, David.

0:28:210:28:25

She bequeaths to her nephew, the residue of her estate

0:28:250:28:30

so the money passes from her to her nephew.

0:28:300:28:34

He's no blood relation, no connection whatsoever, to Norah Jackson.

0:28:340:28:39

David Hopwood lives in North Wales

0:28:400:28:42

and the news that he was the sole heir to Norah's £55,000 estate

0:28:420:28:47

was a real surprise.

0:28:470:28:49

Well, a letter came out of the blue, addressed to me.

0:28:490:28:53

My wife opened it and told me, "You should read this."

0:28:530:28:56

And my first thoughts, at that time,

0:28:560:28:58

were that it was some advertising gimmick.

0:28:580:29:02

But after speaking to Mike, he realised this was no gimmick.

0:29:020:29:05

I didn't know, at this time, who the person was that had left the money.

0:29:050:29:09

I was quite surprised there was anybody left that,

0:29:090:29:12

you know, to leave anything.

0:29:120:29:13

Since receiving Mike's letter,

0:29:130:29:16

David's gone through family photos hoping to learn more about Norah,

0:29:160:29:20

the distant relation who left him a five-figure sum.

0:29:200:29:24

I've got pictures of her brother, my uncle Arnold,

0:29:240:29:29

and my mother's sister, Arnold's wife.

0:29:290:29:32

I can't get any further than that down that line.

0:29:340:29:37

No way of knowing at all.

0:29:380:29:41

Just no-one to ask.

0:29:410:29:43

Her street, where they lived, the houses have gone

0:29:430:29:46

and it's just so long ago I don't think I'll ever know...

0:29:460:29:50

what she looked like.

0:29:500:29:52

The sad case of Norah Jackson has been brought to a successful close

0:29:520:29:57

and, for Mike, it's a poignant end to the story.

0:29:570:30:00

I feel, kind of... I feel a strange feeling of satisfaction

0:30:000:30:05

in having revived the memory of this Norah Jackson

0:30:050:30:08

who otherwise would have been lost in the mists of time.

0:30:080:30:11

In London, heir hunters Fraser & Fraser

0:30:180:30:21

have been looking into the £25,000 estate of Ivy Hudson,

0:30:210:30:24

who died aged 103.

0:30:240:30:27

They've learnt that she was adopted by the Telford family in 1901

0:30:270:30:31

and this has led them to a possible heir -

0:30:310:30:34

Ivy's adoptive niece Ann Goodwin.

0:30:340:30:36

Our father didn't...ever mention her at all, as far as I can remember,

0:30:370:30:42

except to tell me that she was his adopted sister.

0:30:420:30:45

But Ivy was adopted before adoption was made legal.

0:30:460:30:51

This means, under current law,

0:30:510:30:53

the Treasury doesn't recognise Ivy's adoption

0:30:530:30:55

and so Ann will not be allowed to inherit

0:30:550:30:58

but the heir hunters are helping her challenge this law.

0:30:580:31:01

Thanks. Bye.

0:31:010:31:02

They've helped her submit evidence

0:31:020:31:04

showing that Ivy's adoption was as formal as was possible in 1901.

0:31:040:31:09

If they're successful,

0:31:090:31:10

it could change the way heir hunters look at adoption.

0:31:100:31:13

Good morning, Mrs Goodwin? Hello, there.

0:31:140:31:17

Sorry to trouble you, it's David Slee at Fraser & Fraser,

0:31:170:31:20

good morning.

0:31:200:31:21

Well, at last I've received a letter back

0:31:210:31:24

from the Treasury Solicitors Office

0:31:240:31:27

and I think you can tell from the tone of my voice.

0:31:270:31:30

Yeah, I'm REALLY disappointed and I...well...

0:31:300:31:34

I know, I'll read your out their letter and what I will do,

0:31:340:31:36

I'll send you a copy of it as well.

0:31:360:31:38

"The evidence that you supplied indicates that the deceased

0:31:380:31:41

"was fostered by the Telford family

0:31:410:31:44

"but no legal adoption can have taken place."

0:31:440:31:47

The Treasury have stuck to the letter of the law

0:31:480:31:51

and deemed that Ivy's adoption cannot be treated as a legal adoption.

0:31:510:31:55

I have today, unfortunately,

0:31:560:31:59

received a letter from the office of the Treasury solicitors

0:31:590:32:02

declining our clients claim to a share in this estate

0:32:020:32:06

by virtue of the fact that the deceased was not adopted

0:32:060:32:12

after legal adoption has come into place on 1st January 1927.

0:32:120:32:16

It's a blow for the company

0:32:160:32:19

and means Ann won't inherit a share of Ivy's estate

0:32:190:32:22

but she's still determined to learn more about the aunt she never knew.

0:32:220:32:27

So today, husband Peter's travelled to London on a fact-finding mission.

0:32:270:32:31

'We've always been curious about family history,

0:32:330:32:35

'we've done a lot of research into it,'

0:32:350:32:37

and, of course, Ivy was somebody who was a bit peripheral to the family.

0:32:370:32:41

We don't know quite where she came from,

0:32:410:32:43

we don't know quite where she went

0:32:430:32:45

and now, suddenly, this has all surfaced so we're...

0:32:450:32:48

We'd like to know more.

0:32:480:32:49

Peter and Ann have already learnt

0:32:510:32:53

that Ivy married a Robert Bowden when she was 26.

0:32:530:32:57

But they've also heard reports

0:32:570:32:59

that Robert died in an accident five years later,

0:32:590:33:02

leaving Ivy a young widow.

0:33:020:33:04

He was a civil servant, they were settled down in East London,

0:33:060:33:09

they'd got a home of their own, or appear to have done,

0:33:090:33:12

and then suddenly he's drowned.

0:33:120:33:15

And you wonder what the circumstances were.

0:33:150:33:18

So, I'm trying to find out more about that.

0:33:180:33:20

Peter's come to Colindale Library in North London

0:33:200:33:24

which holds Britain's largest archive of newspapers.

0:33:240:33:27

He's hoping to find reports of Ivy's husband's accident.

0:33:270:33:31

For me, this trip is a bit of a challenge,

0:33:310:33:34

it's a puzzle to be solved

0:33:340:33:36

but, for Ann, it's very much about her family.

0:33:360:33:39

And, I think, it's about her roots and knowing who she is

0:33:390:33:44

and where she comes from.

0:33:440:33:47

It doesn't take Peter long to find news of the tragedy

0:33:470:33:50

that cut Ivy's marriage short.

0:33:500:33:52

I found stories in two of the newspapers.

0:33:520:33:54

This one's from the Sheerness Guardian.

0:33:540:33:57

"Heard Drowning Men's Cries" - it's a report of the inquest.

0:33:570:34:00

It wasn't just Robert, it was a friend of his,

0:34:000:34:03

who was actually engaged to his sister.

0:34:030:34:05

Peter's research has shown that Robert and his future brother-in-law

0:34:070:34:11

had been rowing from the mainland to their yacht,

0:34:110:34:14

which was anchored off the Isle of Sheppey.

0:34:140:34:17

During the crossing, they got into difficulty and drowned.

0:34:170:34:21

The men were missing for five days before their bodies were recovered.

0:34:230:34:26

Ivy became a widow at the age of just 32.

0:34:260:34:30

But just a few days later, Ann and Peter are given a golden opportunity

0:34:330:34:37

to find out all about Ivy.

0:34:370:34:39

They've made contact with Ivy's close friend Jacqueline

0:34:420:34:45

and are on their way to meet her.

0:34:450:34:47

We hope to learn a bit more about what happened in the rest of her life,

0:34:490:34:53

when she was pretty well detached from the family.

0:34:530:34:56

The meeting is also an exciting prospect for Jacqueline,

0:34:580:35:01

whose mother was Ivy's best friend.

0:35:010:35:04

'It will be very emotional for me, yes.'

0:35:040:35:08

To meet people who got the link with her so far back.

0:35:080:35:12

And to be able to, in a way, kind of, close the circle.

0:35:120:35:17

-Hello!

-Hi.

-You must be Anne! I'm Jacquelyn, it's nice to meet you.

0:35:190:35:22

-Are you Jackie or Jacquelyn?

-Jacquelyn.

0:35:220:35:24

Yes, Ivy called me Jackie but I'm actually Jacquelyn.

0:35:240:35:27

-Yes, quite right, yes!

-And you're Peter, yes?

0:35:270:35:29

-That's right, hello.

-Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Jacquelyn.

0:35:290:35:31

-Isn't this amazing?

-It is!

-It is, yes.

0:35:310:35:33

For both sides, the meeting is a precious opportunity

0:35:330:35:36

to learn more about Ivy's life.

0:35:360:35:38

In London, the heir hunters are back at square one

0:35:420:35:44

in the search for Ivy's heirs...

0:35:440:35:46

There is no marriage and no '01.

0:35:460:35:49

..but Dave Slee's determined to have one last throw of the dice.

0:35:490:35:53

-It's a headache, isn't it?

-I can't... Can you think of anything?

0:35:530:35:56

He's having a final look for records of Ivy's mother,

0:35:560:35:59

named in the adoption letter as Gertrude Alice Hunt.

0:35:590:36:03

Unbelievably, we're struggling to find

0:36:070:36:11

either the marriage for Ivy's parents...

0:36:110:36:16

before and after her birth, we're struggling to find them dying,

0:36:160:36:20

there's no record of them on the '01 or the 1911 census.

0:36:200:36:25

I just don't think... Yeah, looking at it from a financial point of view,

0:36:250:36:29

from our point of view,

0:36:290:36:31

if it warrants us during too much more research, really.

0:36:310:36:34

The team really have run out of options...

0:36:360:36:38

..so they decide to close the files once more.

0:36:400:36:43

But for Pete, Ann and Jacqueline,

0:36:500:36:52

the detective work is just beginning.

0:36:520:36:54

I, sort of, made up this album of photographs to show you,

0:36:540:36:58

kind of, going through. So, that's Ivy, there.

0:36:580:37:01

-Oh, this is absolutely amazing!

-Yeah!

0:37:010:37:04

-Think we've got...

-And there she is looking rather saucy, we thought!

0:37:050:37:08

-Yes!

-On her first honeymoon.

0:37:080:37:10

I think she did well to break away from the Telford family!

0:37:100:37:15

That was her 100th birthday.

0:37:150:37:19

These are all 100th birthday pictures.

0:37:190:37:21

You'll see she was on...

0:37:210:37:23

She spent the afternoon on the London Eye on her 100th birthday.

0:37:230:37:27

We took her out for, the group of us, you see us there.

0:37:270:37:31

We took her out for lunch.

0:37:310:37:33

We took her to the Sovereign of the Seas, of course,

0:37:330:37:35

and she had scampi and chips and then we got in a couple of cars

0:37:350:37:38

and drove up to London and took her on the London Eye.

0:37:380:37:41

And when we got to the very top we all sang Happy Birthday to her

0:37:410:37:44

and she just had a wonderful day, she loved it.

0:37:440:37:47

I mean, she was game for anything, you know?

0:37:470:37:50

As a lifelong friend,

0:37:500:37:51

Jacqueline knows a huge amount about Ivy's life.

0:37:510:37:55

I've got some things to show you.

0:37:550:37:57

This is her Red Cross certificate that she got and this is her...

0:37:570:38:03

Of course she was Ivy Bowden then, having married Bob Bowden,

0:38:030:38:06

that's her medal that she got.

0:38:060:38:09

Ivy received a certificate for her devoted service to the Red Cross

0:38:110:38:15

in the Second World War.

0:38:150:38:17

During which time she was bombed twice,

0:38:170:38:20

injured and lost all her belongings.

0:38:200:38:22

The certificate is signed by King George VI and Queen Elizabeth.

0:38:220:38:26

I thought you might like to have these.

0:38:270:38:30

Oh, no, because you...

0:38:300:38:31

Well, I'm really happy for you to have them,

0:38:310:38:34

because I think it's really nice that they should now be with her...

0:38:340:38:38

with Ivy's family.

0:38:380:38:39

I mean, the Telfords were the only family she knew.

0:38:390:38:42

-They were her only family, yes.

-Oh, yes, absolutely, absolutely.

0:38:420:38:46

In return, Ann is able to give Jacqueline a new insight

0:38:460:38:49

into the Telford family.

0:38:490:38:51

-That's the earliest one, that's my grandfather.

-Right, and this is...?

0:38:510:38:55

-This is Ivy.

-This is Ivy?

-Yes.

-Oh, wow! Wow.

0:38:550:39:01

After coffee, Jacqueline, Ann and Peter head to the Victorian house

0:39:010:39:06

where Ivy grew up with the Telfords.

0:39:060:39:09

When Ivy was 95,

0:39:090:39:11

she asked Jacqueline to bring her back to the house.

0:39:110:39:13

She hadn't been there since her 18th birthday when she'd run away.

0:39:130:39:17

So, we drove up here and looked at the front of the house

0:39:170:39:20

and then drove round the side, here,

0:39:200:39:23

and Ivy looked up at the back of the house and she said,

0:39:230:39:27

"That's the bedroom window from which I watched the Zeppelin crashing,

0:39:270:39:31

"in the First World War, in flames."

0:39:310:39:33

So, that was an amazing moment, really.

0:39:330:39:36

So, from that bedroom window, there.

0:39:360:39:38

What Ivy had seen was the stuff of local legend.

0:39:380:39:43

In September 1916,

0:39:430:39:45

a German zeppelin was shot down by a British soldier on night patrol.

0:39:450:39:49

It burst into flames,

0:39:490:39:51

crashing down in a field near Billericay, in Essex.

0:39:510:39:54

So, I mean, this, for you, is a real pilgrimage,

0:39:540:39:57

in that this is where your father grew up,

0:39:570:39:58

-where your grandparents lived and everything.

-Yes, yes, yes.

0:39:580:40:02

We've always been going to come and look at all these houses

0:40:020:40:05

but we've never done it, so now we started!

0:40:050:40:07

Filling in the jigsaw has been important for both Ivy's relatives

0:40:100:40:14

and her friend.

0:40:140:40:16

It was amazing meeting Ann and Peter today.

0:40:160:40:19

I mean, I'd never dreamed that I would ever have any contact

0:40:190:40:22

with Ivy's adopted family.

0:40:220:40:23

I mean, they were just this remote family that she'd left at 18

0:40:230:40:27

and I expected, you know, the whole story to stay there.

0:40:270:40:30

I never thought it was going to come to life again in this amazing way.

0:40:300:40:34

'The whole thing about turning somebody who was just a...'

0:40:360:40:39

really, just a name, somebody in print,

0:40:390:40:42

into a real human being with lasting friendships over so many years.

0:40:420:40:48

And...I think that really completed the picture.

0:40:480:40:53

We've got used to looking into the past but it's the recent past,

0:40:530:40:57

you know, which has been the story today.

0:40:570:41:00

But there's one final twist to this story

0:41:000:41:03

because what the Heir Hunters were never told by the Treasury

0:41:030:41:06

was that Ivy had in fact left a will.

0:41:060:41:09

She did leave will, about three years before she died,

0:41:090:41:13

and we've sent it off to probate, the solicitors copy,

0:41:130:41:16

because we couldn't find the original and they wouldn't accept it

0:41:160:41:20

because it wasn't the original, so she was deemed to have died intestate

0:41:200:41:24

and the estate was administered by the Treasury Solicitor.

0:41:240:41:27

Under probate law, only the original will can be accepted.

0:41:280:41:33

Without it, the authorities assume the deceased changed their mind.

0:41:330:41:36

So with only a copy of Ivy's will,

0:41:360:41:38

the estate was put on the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates

0:41:380:41:42

but shortly after, the Treasury invited the beneficiaries named by Ivy

0:41:420:41:46

to apply for discretionary grants.

0:41:460:41:48

My belief is that the Treasury actually paid out the bequests

0:41:480:41:53

exactly as Ivy had asked for them to paid out in that will,

0:41:530:41:57

which, although they didn't accept, in the end, in fact, they did

0:41:570:42:03

because they made those discretionary grants exactly along the lines,

0:42:030:42:07

so I understand, that Ivy wanted.

0:42:070:42:10

Although these payments were made,

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any blood relatives the heir hunters had found

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would still have been entitled to a share of the estate.

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But Ivy's most valuable legacy was an emotional one.

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'It brings all the joy, and the happiness, and the fun back again'

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and, I mean, thinking of Ivy makes me happy

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because she was such a happy, lovely person

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and such an important part of all our lives

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and so it's been a joyous day because it's been an Ivy day,

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and all the Ivy days were joyous days.

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