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Today the Heir Hunters are in York, desperately trying to contact

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the beneficiaries to an unclaimed estate.

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Somewhere out there, there are some long lost relatives

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who have no idea they're in line for a windfall.

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Could the Heir Hunters be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme...

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-Come on, Michael.

-..the team's under pressure to come up with the goods.

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No reply, no answer phone either.

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As they struggle to find heirs to the estate of a mysterious recluse.

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He would walk past you, down the drive,

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without even acknowledging the fact that you were there.

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And the death of a talented artist in Scotland

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brings back some long lost childhood memories.

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I was born on the 7th November and he was born on the 15th,

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so we always said we were twins.

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Plus, how you may be entitled to inherit an unclaimed estate

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held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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Every year in the UK,

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an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found,

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then any money that's left behind will go to the government.

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Last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates.

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That's where the Heir Hunters come in.

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They make it their business to track down missing relatives

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and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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I bring about a change so that the rightful assets

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go to the rightful family members and not to the state.

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It's seven in the morning

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at the offices of heir hunters Fraser & Fraser.

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And boss Neil Fraser has been scanning

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the Treasury's weekly list of unclaimed estates.

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One case has caught his eye.

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I'm going to have a look at this Fawcett case,

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just really got the address.

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It looks like it's a possible one

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and we may be dealing with an estate of £100-150,000.

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Case manager Dave Slee is kick-starting the investigation

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and has got hold of one of Ronald Fawcett's neighbours,

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Robert Shipley.

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We think Mr Fawcett might have been born in Stoke-on-Trent in about 1931.

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Would that be about right? That would've made him about 79, 78.

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Ronald Fawcett died on the 15th April 2009 in Stoke-on-Trent.

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He left no will and not even a photograph survives of him.

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Before his parents passed away in the early '90s,

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Ronald lived with them in this semi-detached house.

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His neighbour Robert Shipley remembers him as a solitary man.

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I didn't see anything of him at all while his parents were alive.

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He was like a ghostly figure who just...

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You very rarely saw anything of him.

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I should say he was about...

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about six foot two.

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Very, very, very gaunt, very bony.

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A stooped figure.

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He would walk past you, down the drive,

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without even acknowledging the fact that you were there.

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He was in a world of his own.

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Unlike Ronald, his father Albert Fawcett was a colourful character

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and well-known in the community as a retired chief inspector

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in the Staffordshire police force.

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Well, his father, being a police office, was obviously

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more used to dealing with the public than his son was.

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And he was very open and a nice chap.

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His wife, Ron's mother, she was a little, old lady.

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You never hardly ever saw anything of her at all.

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When his parents passed away and, obviously, he was on his own,

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then he became more friendly.

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He'd bring us a bottle of wine round at Christmas and things like this.

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And we exchanged Christmas cards.

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He was a man of few words, he would hardly ever speak.

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But that's just how he was, he just wanted to be alone

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and spoke very little to anybody.

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In the office, the investigation is well under way.

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How many years would you have known the family?

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Obviously more than the ten because, of course, you knew the father.

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Dave has managed to establish the bare bones of Ronald's family tree.

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His parents were Albert Fawcett and Mary Edwards.

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Ronald was an only child.

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This means there will be no brothers or sisters to inherit.

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So they will have to start the search for cousins.

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Only child, they think.

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Father's definitely from Yorkshire, came down to Stoke from Yorkshire.

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OK.

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They've also found out that Ronald owned the house that he lived in,

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which they think is worth about £120,000.

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The heir hunters work on commission,

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taking a percentage of the amount that's claimed by each heir.

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So it's important for them to uncover the high-value cases.

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Unfortunately, Neil's discovered that, a few years earlier,

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Ronald had done an equity release deal on the property.

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Equity release is something I hate to see on houses,

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I hate to see on estates because, more often that not,

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the actual price that someone's achieved for their property

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isn't very good.

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So, let's say he got £60,000,

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he's then lived for a few years afterwards,

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we know he spent a couple of thousand pounds, at least, on a brand new car.

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We're looking at an estate which may not be any more than £30,000,

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£20-30,000.

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Which, when you think he lived in the property which he owned,

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which could be worth £120,000 and we're looking at a £30,000 estate,

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you can see why I don't like equity release.

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Neil's worried that if the estate is less valuable than he thought,

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then it will be harder for the company to turn a profit

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on this job.

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And with 30 rival heir hunting companies

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all chasing the same cases, speed is of the essence.

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The pressure's on case manager David Pacifico to deliver.

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It all seems to be coming out in York,

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both sides, both parents were born in York.

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Paul Matthews is doing an inquiry around Stoke.

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I think I'm going to send him from there to York.

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Heir hunting relies heavily on research done in the office.

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But it's the senior researchers on the road, like Paul Matthews,

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who are the public face of the company.

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They're based all over the country and its their job to follow up

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any lead and make sure that they get to the heirs

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ahead of the competition.

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Paul's already been on the road for an hour when he gets a call from HQ.

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-Hi, it's me running this job of Fawcett.

-Oh, right, OK, Dave.

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Whereabouts are you at the moment?

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I am 30 miles from Stoke Registry Office.

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Right, well, the bad news for you

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is that it all seems to be coming out in York.

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-York!

-Yeah, I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to go to York.

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Right, OK-cokey.

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'OK, Dave. I'll send you a Christmas card when I get there.'

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DAVID LAUGHS

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While Paul heads towards York,

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David and researcher Michael start pounding the keyboards.

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They're searching through records for births,

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marriages and deaths within the UK.

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One birth...John.

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-John Fawcett.

-John Fawcett.

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They're looking for cousins of the deceased,

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so they need to come up with family trees for Ronald's father

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and mother, Albert Fawcett and Mary Edwards.

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The father had at least two siblings.

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It may only be two siblings, one of whom we don't know the name,

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it's just shown as an unnamed child on the 1911 Census.

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Ronald's paternal grandparents were Ernest Fawcett and Lily Dearsley.

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They had three children, Ronald's father Albert, a brother John

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and another child who the team can't yet identify.

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So, on the father's side, there are only two potential stems

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which could produce cousins and beneficiaries.

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On the maternal side, it looks like the family's even smaller.

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Mother had one brother, who we've now identified died in 1990,

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who was married and we're checking for the marriage

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and to see if there's any children.

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Ronald's maternal grandparents were Arthur Edwards and Emily Morris.

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His mother Mary was born in 1906

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and she had one brother Ernest Jesse, born in 1909.

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With the basic family trees in place, the race is now on

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to find some living heirs to Ronald's estate

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that is now estimated at £30,000.

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David hands over the maternal side of the investigation

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to researcher Noel.

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While Michael will take charge of the paternal side.

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Michael should have the easier job

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as Fawcett is a more unusual name than Edwards,

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so there will be less records to check.

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David.

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-Where's that?

-York.

-You've got him.

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But today, Noel's on fire.

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Within minutes, he's come up with a possible Edwards cousin.

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-You know something.

-Shall we go for it? I'll get the...

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You know, you could make a genealogy chart.

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Here you go. Do you want it?

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Noel's given me the address of a cousin on the maternal side.

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-What have you given me, Michael?

-Come on, Michael.

-Come on, Michael.

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Michael's got some catching up to do,

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as David heads off to chase up Noel's lead.

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It's only 9am and he could already be on his way to his first heir.

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No reply and no answer phone either.

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Hopefully, he will be home later, unless they're away on holiday.

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I will have my guy there later on today.

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It's disappointing for David, but straight away, Noel hands him

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another chance to make that important early break through.

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He's found the number for another maternal cousin.

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In that case, let's go and phone them.

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Good morning, I'm trying to contact a Mary Lazenby whose maiden name

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would be Edwards and I'm hoping the daughter of an Ernest Jesse Edwards.

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My name is David Pacifico, thank you very much.

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Another phone call and another brick wall.

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David desperately needs to speak to an heir,

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but, right now, all he's getting is answering machines.

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But at least Michael's making some progress

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on the paternal side of the case.

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Yes, I think you might have something there.

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Michael's found a potential first cousin on Ronald's father's side.

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Could this be third time lucky for David?

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I'm sorry to trouble you,

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I'm speaking from Central London,

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I represent a company of probate researchers called Fraser & Fraser.

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Finally, someone's in to take his call.

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Do you much about your father's side of the family?

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You don't know whether your father had any brothers at all?

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All right, because, unfortunately,

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you may not be the correct family after all.

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Poor David, he's under so much pressure to deliver,

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but he just can't seem to crack this case open.

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Back to square one, on the father's side anyway.

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Better go and tell the boys.

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Coming up...

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at last there's a light at the end of the tunnel for David.

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One of my colleagues is actually in York as we speak,

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would it be possible for you to meet with him?

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But he's not out of the woods yet.

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-Er, Mr Edwards went away this morning for a weekend break.

-Oh.

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Often, when someone dies without leaving a will,

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their death will be registered many miles from where they were born.

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This can put great distance between heirs

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and makes the search for beneficiaries that much harder.

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Like the case of Anthony Whelan.

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In September 2008, his £18,000 estate

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appeared on the Queen's and Lord Treasurer's Remembrancer,

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Scotland's register for unclaimed estates.

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The case was picked up by Saul Marks

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of heir hunting company Celtic Research.

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The Whelan case came to me via our Scottish researcher

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and, although the deceased had died in Scotland,

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he was actually born in Liverpool.

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So, being the head of the North-West office, I was given the case.

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Anthony Whelan, known as Tony to his friends,

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died on the 19th July 2008

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on Rothesay on the west coast of Scotland.

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Before he moved up there,

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Tony worked as a lecturer in theatre design and stage craft

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at the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama in Glasgow.

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At the time, Alison Clark was a drama student there

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and she remembers her former tutor with great affection.

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He was very warm, witty and wise.

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Er, he liked you to work hard, erm, but he imparted information

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with such, he had such a sense of fun about him.

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He was a very talented man.

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As well as the arts, Alison and Tony shared another great passion -

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the sea.

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He was a great sailor which I didn't know until, I think,

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he'd overheard me saying to one of my pals that I was learning to sail.

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And it turned out that he had a little,

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a lovely, little boat called Luisa.

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And he said, "Well, when you get your ticket,

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"you can come and sail on my boat."

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And I did. And it was...that was where our friendship really started.

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It was a friendship that was to last for the next 30 years.

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Tony eventually retired to the Isle of Bute

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where he lived aboard his beloved Luisa.

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Alison and her husband kept in touch with Tony,

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but, even after all those years,

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he still remained something of an enigma.

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He was a very private man.

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It took me years to learn some things about him.

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He hated birthdays, he hated celebration of any kind,

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he loathed Christmas, he called it humbuggery.

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Tony eventually contracted Parkinson's disease

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and had to move into a home on Rothesay.

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Towards the end, he withdrew into himself.

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But death, it seemed, held no fear.

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On the mantelpiece were stacked a whole bundle of letters.

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With the note, "These are to be posted when I die."

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When he did die, I got this letter and it said, "Tony Whelan has died!"

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Exclamation mark.

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For Alison, it was the end of a remarkable friendship.

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He was almost like a mentor.

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He would recommend plays, recommend music.

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And he had so much knowledge and love of life.

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When Saul started investigating Anthony Whelan's £18,000 estate

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in September 2008,

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he already knew that the deceased had not married and had no children.

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So, any heirs would have to be cousins.

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But he also knew that the deceased's surname

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was not going to make this an easy search.

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Obviously, the surname Whelan is very Irish in origin

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and Merseyside region has hundreds of thousands of Irish families.

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Saul first went to the online birth and marriage indexes

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where he established that Tony's parents were Joseph Whelan

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and Annie O'Hara, another extremely common name in the Irish community.

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There was going to be no way to find out which Joseph Whelan and

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which Annie O'Hara they were without getting the marriage certificate.

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So I went off to Liverpool Registry Office

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to get the marriage certificate of the parents.

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But he arrived too late

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and the office had closed for the bank holiday weekend.

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When we get cases that have just been released,

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we need to get on top of them quickly.

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It's a very competitive business these days

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and there are always competitor companies

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who are working the same case.

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Four days later, when Saul did get hold of the marriage certificate,

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it gave him Joseph and Annie's father's names,

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which meant he could start work on their family trees.

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We were desperate to get it done as quickly as we could,

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in case any other companies had been doing it in the meantime.

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Tony's father Joseph was one of five brothers born to John Whelan

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and his wife Catherine.

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While his mother Annie was one of seven, born to Francis O'Hara

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and his wife Catherine.

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On the face of it,

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two large families like this would normally lead to many heirs.

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As it turned out, only two of Tony's paternal uncles had children

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and it was the same story in his mother's family.

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Six of the seven only produced seven children, I think, between them.

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So they were... They didn't have very many children,

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it was a much smaller family in the end

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than we were originally expecting.

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And the number of heirs was, consequently, much, much less.

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The smaller the number of heirs, the more difficult life is for Saul.

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If there are lots of heirs,

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then the chances are, all the companies will get a few each,

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but when there are fewer heirs, then the pressure's on.

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Coming up...

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is it all over for Saul

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when he discovers the competition has pipped him to the post?

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It's not the done thing in our profession to persuade anyone

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to break a contract that they've already signed with someone else.

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Heir hunters solve thousands of cases a year

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and millions of pounds are paid out to rightful heirs.

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But not every case can be cracked.

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The Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates

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that have baffled heir hunters and remain unsolved.

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Could you be the heir they're searching for?

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Could you be in line for a windfall worth hundreds,

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thousands or even millions of pounds?

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Estates stay on the list for up to 30 years

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and, today, we're focusing on three names.

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Are they relatives of yours?

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John Mark Frith Blezard died on the 20th April 2009,

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aged 56 in Workington, Cumbria.

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Mr Blezard was a registrar of births, marriages and deaths

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in Workington for over 30 years.

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But he left no will and, so far,

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no-one has come forward to claim his estate.

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Norah Ellen Elleman died on the 12th December 2002, aged 81 in Welland.

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Elleman was once a very popular name in Hereford and Worcestershire.

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But there are now less than 100 of them in the whole of the UK.

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Does anyone remember this one?

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If no heirs of hers are found, her money will go to the government.

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Vivian Michael Brownray died on the 27th August 2005,

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aged 85 in Bangor, Conway.

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Vivian is a rare but traditional man's name and,

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combined with the unusual surname Brownray,

0:20:210:20:24

someone must remember this unique combination.

0:20:240:20:26

If the names John Blezard, Norah Elleman or Vivian Brownray

0:20:310:20:34

mean anything to you or someone you know,

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you could have a fortune coming your way.

0:20:370:20:40

At Celtic Research's Liverpool office,

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heir hunter Saul Marks was still working the case

0:20:490:20:52

of talented artist and old seadog Tony Whelan.

0:20:520:20:55

Tony died aged 69 in Rothesay on the west coast of Scotland.

0:20:560:21:00

His legacy to me

0:21:020:21:03

is that...

0:21:030:21:06

..I have continued to be interested in things, new things.

0:21:080:21:14

Erm, I listen to music that is sometimes challenging.

0:21:140:21:20

Erm, but he always stretched your imagination

0:21:200:21:25

and stretched the boundaries.

0:21:250:21:27

Tony's artistic tastes were formed in his 30s

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when he left Liverpool to go to art school in London.

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When he first arrived at the end of the '50s,

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rationing had just ended and the War was still a recent memory.

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The style of painting being taught reflected this feeling

0:21:440:21:47

of sober realism.

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Art in this country was really dominated by kitchen sink.

0:21:500:21:53

It was people like John Bratby and Derrick Greaves and Ed Middleditch

0:21:530:21:57

and others. And they were painting toilets,

0:21:570:22:00

they were painting, literally, kitchen sinks.

0:22:000:22:03

But, at the same time, on the other side of the Atlantic,

0:22:030:22:07

a revolution was taking place in the art world.

0:22:070:22:10

Avant-garde art had burst onto the scene

0:22:100:22:13

and the American public couldn't get enough of it,

0:22:130:22:16

queuing up to get into the first exhibitions.

0:22:160:22:18

It wasn't long before this exciting

0:22:200:22:22

and experimental new movement came to London.

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And, as a student, Tony would have been at the heart of it.

0:22:260:22:29

I think the dominant theme of this period,

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being an art student around the '50s and '60s,

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is a progressive openness to what's going on around you,

0:22:390:22:43

the consumer boom.

0:22:430:22:44

And the mass media really begun to influence artists.

0:22:440:22:48

I think there was a social revolution at this time

0:22:480:22:51

and I think there was a corresponding artistic revolution.

0:22:510:22:55

There was a thirst for change.

0:22:550:22:57

Erm, with greater wealth, with greater financial means,

0:22:570:23:01

people wanted to put the past behind them

0:23:010:23:05

and they wanted to strike out in new directions.

0:23:050:23:08

You want to reflect these things, you want to plug into them

0:23:080:23:12

and you want to make an art that is of its time,

0:23:120:23:15

a new art engaged with a very dynamic, new, engaging world.

0:23:150:23:21

After a slow start,

0:23:220:23:24

heir hunter Saul Marks had finally got the information he needed

0:23:240:23:27

to crack this case.

0:23:270:23:29

On Tony's father Joseph's side, he found three heirs.

0:23:290:23:34

While his mother Annie had six brothers and sisters.

0:23:340:23:38

Between them, they had eight children.

0:23:380:23:40

Sure enough, once we'd established that there were eight heirs

0:23:420:23:45

on the maternal side, many of them were here in the Merseyside area,

0:23:450:23:49

it was a case of dashing round at high speed

0:23:490:23:51

to see as many of them as possible.

0:23:510:23:53

So, it was jumping in the car and going from one to the next,

0:23:530:23:56

to the next and hoping that none of them had been contacted before.

0:23:560:23:59

Saul had known from the beginning

0:24:000:24:01

that there would be a lot of interest in this case

0:24:010:24:04

from other heir hunting companies.

0:24:040:24:07

When he discovered that there were relatively few heirs,

0:24:070:24:09

he knew that he would have to act quickly

0:24:090:24:11

if he was going to get to them before the competition.

0:24:110:24:15

The first heir that he approached was Julie Evans,

0:24:180:24:21

Tony's first cousin on his mother's side.

0:24:210:24:24

What Saul didn't know was that Julie had already been contacted

0:24:240:24:27

the day before by a rival company

0:24:270:24:30

who broke the news to her that Tony had died.

0:24:300:24:32

A gentleman who rang me to tell me

0:24:340:24:38

that my cousin... Did I have a cousin, Anthony Whelan?

0:24:380:24:43

So, I said, yes, I did.

0:24:430:24:44

But I was very cautious because I don't divulge details easily.

0:24:440:24:47

After talking to the other company, Julie agreed

0:24:490:24:51

that they should send her a contract by post, which arrived the next day.

0:24:510:24:55

She signed it and put it out for posting.

0:24:550:24:58

But later that morning, she noticed a car pull into her driveway.

0:24:580:25:03

A gentleman gets out, very smartly dressed with a briefcase,

0:25:030:25:07

walks up the drive and I think, this looks like a doctor, but I'm not ill.

0:25:070:25:11

Came to the door and it turned out to be Saul.

0:25:120:25:14

I stated who I was and the situation

0:25:140:25:18

and she and her husband, actually, invited me in

0:25:180:25:20

and we had a lovely chat.

0:25:200:25:21

Saul was able to show Julie and her husband the family tree

0:25:210:25:25

that he'd drawn up, showing all Tony's relatives

0:25:250:25:29

and explained to her how he had gathered some of his information.

0:25:290:25:32

In return, Julie was able to tell Saul about her cousin Tony.

0:25:340:25:38

As children, they had been very close.

0:25:380:25:40

We used to call each other the twins

0:25:420:25:44

because I was born on the 7th November and he was born on the 15th.

0:25:440:25:48

So we always said we were twins.

0:25:480:25:49

She also had fond memories of Tony's father, Joseph Whelan.

0:25:510:25:56

Uncle Joe was so reserved, very gentlemanly,

0:25:560:26:00

didn't display his feelings easily.

0:26:000:26:03

I think, probably, Tony inherited some of that from his father.

0:26:040:26:07

Julie was also able to shed some light on Tony's romantic life.

0:26:080:26:12

He was engaged to be married and his fiancee died quite tragically.

0:26:130:26:19

And whether that affected him, I think it did, actually,

0:26:210:26:27

because I think, maybe, he went more into himself then.

0:26:270:26:31

Sadly, the two cousins lost touch when they were in their early 20s.

0:26:310:26:36

I went over to Canada to work.

0:26:360:26:38

And we just...I'm not sure when his mother died and his father died.

0:26:390:26:45

And once that connection was gone, it was gone then.

0:26:450:26:49

Because, by that time, he'd gone down to London.

0:26:490:26:51

But Julie did have one thing to remind her of her long lost cousin.

0:26:510:26:55

He had given her one of his paintings for her 21st birthday.

0:26:560:27:00

She was able to go and get this framed painting

0:27:020:27:04

and show it to me and it actually had, on the back of it,

0:27:040:27:07

his signature and the date when he did it.

0:27:070:27:09

Which was great to be able to look at something which he'd done.

0:27:090:27:14

It really brought him to life, from my point of view.

0:27:140:27:17

But while all this was going on,

0:27:170:27:20

there was still the small matter of a signed contract in the hall

0:27:200:27:23

that was waiting to be posted to a rival heir hunting company.

0:27:230:27:26

It's not the done thing in our profession to persuade anyone

0:27:290:27:33

to break a contract that they've already signed with someone else.

0:27:330:27:38

So I simply left my contract with them, for them to decide.

0:27:380:27:43

It didn't take Julie long to make up her mind.

0:27:430:27:46

She came to the conclusion, in the end, that she would,

0:27:460:27:49

actually, prefer to sign with us than with the other company.

0:27:490:27:52

So she never actually broke that contract,

0:27:520:27:54

she just chose to post ours and not theirs.

0:27:540:27:56

For Saul, it was a great conclusion to a fascinating investigation.

0:27:560:28:02

In the end, he managed to sign up five out of eleven heirs

0:28:020:28:05

to Tony Whelan's £18,000 estate.

0:28:050:28:08

But, for Julie, it wasn't about the money.

0:28:120:28:15

Through Saul, she got in touch with Tony's old friend Alison,

0:28:150:28:19

who sent her some more recent photographs of her cousin.

0:28:190:28:22

Julie hadn't seen Tony since they were in their 20s,

0:28:220:28:26

so the photos took her by surprise.

0:28:260:28:28

I would never, ever have associated him with having a beard.

0:28:290:28:32

But it does tie in with the mariner aspect, doesn't it?

0:28:320:28:36

Absolutely. It makes me feel as though I know him now.

0:28:360:28:40

Again. Ha-ha. How strange.

0:28:400:28:43

But chatting with Alison brought the old memories flooding back.

0:28:430:28:46

What she told me that she knew of him,

0:28:470:28:49

it bore out exactly what I knew of him as a child.

0:28:490:28:52

That he was quiet and reserved and gentlemanly.

0:28:520:28:55

It is nice to find out that he had good friends elsewhere

0:28:560:29:01

and that they looked after him.

0:29:010:29:03

And Julie knows exactly what she's going to do

0:29:030:29:06

with her share of the inheritance.

0:29:060:29:08

I love paintings. I'm going to buy a painting in memory.

0:29:090:29:15

Because all of the paintings that I have are all memories of people

0:29:150:29:19

or places and that will be one of them.

0:29:190:29:22

Heir hunters Fraser & Fraser have been investigating the case

0:29:350:29:39

of reclusive Ronald Fawcett.

0:29:390:29:40

Ronald died aged 79 in Stoke-on-Trent,

0:29:400:29:43

leaving an estimated £30,000 estate.

0:29:430:29:47

I wouldn't say he was unfriendly,

0:29:480:29:50

I would say he was a reserved man, for whatever reason.

0:29:500:29:53

I think his dad, erm, dominated proceedings.

0:29:530:29:58

For many years, Ronald lived with his parents.

0:29:580:30:01

His father Albert was a larger-than-life character,

0:30:020:30:05

who had been chief superintendent of Staffordshire police force.

0:30:050:30:09

He was an old-fashioned copper.

0:30:090:30:11

And he was an enormous man, built like a giant.

0:30:110:30:16

Absolutely huge. Police officers used to visit him quite frequently.

0:30:160:30:20

They would call him "sir"

0:30:220:30:23

and he was obviously well-thought-of in the police force in his day.

0:30:230:30:28

Tom Parton served under Albert as a police inspector

0:30:290:30:32

and remembers him as an inspirational but imposing figure.

0:30:320:30:36

I respected him very much and he had

0:30:360:30:38

a terrific sense of fairness and honesty, but he took short shrift

0:30:380:30:44

with the criminal fraternity.

0:30:440:30:46

Tom recalls one particular incident

0:30:460:30:49

when a violent criminal was holed up in a house,

0:30:490:30:51

threatening to beat anyone who came near him with an iron crowbar.

0:30:510:30:55

Bert arrives on the scene, "What's going on here?"

0:30:560:30:59

And they told him.

0:30:590:31:00

So he kicked the door down, went up the stairs three at a time,

0:31:000:31:03

hit this bloke so hard he nearly went through the wall

0:31:030:31:06

into the house next door,

0:31:060:31:07

and brought him down by his trouser backside and his collar

0:31:070:31:12

and put him in the police van.

0:31:120:31:13

And that's what he did, that's the way he worked.

0:31:130:31:17

But he solved that problem without any further trouble.

0:31:170:31:21

For Ronald, his father must have been a hard act to follow.

0:31:230:31:27

It seems that he chose a very different path

0:31:270:31:29

by cutting himself off from the outside world.

0:31:290:31:32

He'd had no contact with any family of note for a long, long time.

0:31:330:31:38

Maybe he didn't even know they existed, I don't know.

0:31:380:31:41

It'd be a real good outcome if his family do benefit from this.

0:31:410:31:47

I would really be dead chuffed for them.

0:31:470:31:50

It's been a difficult start for heir hunter David Pacifico.

0:31:500:31:54

Erm, unfortunately, it may not be the correct family after all.

0:31:540:31:57

The team have been feeding names of potential heirs.

0:31:570:32:00

David.

0:32:000:32:02

-Where's that?

-York.

0:32:040:32:05

But he just can't get the break through he needs.

0:32:050:32:08

No reply and no answer phone either.

0:32:080:32:11

On the paternal side of the family, David has been trying to trace

0:32:130:32:17

an unnamed sibling of Ronald's father Albert.

0:32:170:32:20

He called York Register Office

0:32:200:32:22

who have a record of a Henry Fawcett born in 1911,

0:32:220:32:25

who sounds like the missing Fawcett brother.

0:32:250:32:29

Then, out of the blue,

0:32:290:32:31

one of David's answer phone messages pays off.

0:32:310:32:34

Many thanks. Thank you. Bye, bye.

0:32:360:32:38

Right, I've spoken to a widow of an uncle.

0:32:380:32:42

David has just got off the phone with Dorothy Fawcett,

0:32:430:32:46

the widow of Henry Fawcett, the missing brother of John and Albert.

0:32:460:32:50

She told David that her husband's first wife was Barbara

0:32:510:32:54

and that they'd had six children, four girls and two boys.

0:32:540:32:58

All of these children stand to inherit

0:33:000:33:02

from their cousin Ronald's estimated £30,000 estate.

0:33:020:33:05

David's delighted.

0:33:070:33:09

He's sorted out the paternal side of the case

0:33:090:33:11

and Dorothy had information about Ronald's mother's family as well.

0:33:110:33:16

She also knew that the deceased's mother was,

0:33:160:33:19

her maiden name was Edwards, and she thought there was a brother

0:33:190:33:23

which ties in perfectly with what we've got.

0:33:230:33:26

So I think, on the face of it, it looks like we've got one branch

0:33:260:33:29

on the mother's side of the family and two on the father's side.

0:33:290:33:33

Erm, six, seven, eight. Making in total about ten beneficiaries.

0:33:340:33:39

At last, this investigation is up and running.

0:33:390:33:43

David knows how many heirs there are.

0:33:430:33:45

Now he needs to get on and contact them.

0:33:450:33:47

Put that marriage update.

0:33:470:33:49

-What was the other child's name? Ruth and...?

-Andrew.

-Andrew.

0:33:490:33:52

Two of Ronald's ten heirs are Ruth and Andrew Fawcett,

0:33:540:33:57

the adopted children of John Fawcett, Ronald's paternal uncle.

0:33:570:34:02

Ruth and Andrew were officially adopted,

0:34:020:34:04

so they are as entitled as any biological cousins.

0:34:040:34:08

The uncle adopted two children, one of whom we've got an address for,

0:34:090:34:13

but no phone number, and the other one, we're still trying to trace her.

0:34:130:34:16

David can't afford to wait around

0:34:180:34:20

while the team tracks down phone numbers for Ruth and Andrew.

0:34:200:34:23

He's got a number for Andrew's neighbour in Devon, so he dives in.

0:34:230:34:27

I'm sorry to trouble you,

0:34:280:34:30

I'm speaking from London, I'm trying to trace a Mr Fawcett.

0:34:300:34:33

I'm hoping he might be a neighbour of yours.

0:34:330:34:35

I wondered if I could pass my name and details...

0:34:350:34:38

Would you mind doing so, sir?

0:34:380:34:39

Thank you very much.

0:34:390:34:40

Time for David to check in with Paul Matthews,

0:34:400:34:44

who's been on the road now for four hours.

0:34:440:34:46

He's just arriving in York,

0:34:460:34:48

where he's hoping to meet up with Ronald's two maternal cousins.

0:34:480:34:52

If you print off the tree,

0:34:530:34:55

you'll see the addresses of the two cousins on the mother's side in York.

0:34:550:35:00

Perhaps you could make inquiries there.

0:35:000:35:02

Yeah, well, I can at least dash neighbours

0:35:020:35:04

or try and track them down.

0:35:040:35:05

-Yeah.

-Perhaps the son or daughters are at work or something.

0:35:050:35:08

And the other stem where there's six children

0:35:080:35:10

and they're dotted all over place.

0:35:100:35:12

Because I'm going, obviously, to have to write to one or two people here.

0:35:120:35:15

David's also found addresses in Sheffield

0:35:150:35:17

for some heirs from Ronald's father's side.

0:35:170:35:20

So he wants Paul to go on there after York.

0:35:200:35:24

It would mean a long day,

0:35:240:35:25

but the pressure's on and they can't afford to wait till tomorrow.

0:35:250:35:29

Any sign of competition?

0:35:300:35:31

Not as yet, but, you know.

0:35:320:35:34

While David's on the phone,

0:35:340:35:36

he gets a call-back from Andrew Fawcett in Devon.

0:35:360:35:39

Case manager Frances Brett jumps straight on it.

0:35:390:35:43

I can see that David is going to be on the phone for quite some time.

0:35:430:35:48

I am taking it you are Andrew Fawcett of Ottery St Mary?

0:35:490:35:53

They've finally managed to speak to their first heir.

0:35:530:35:57

The company's representative in Devon is not available today,

0:35:570:36:00

so Frances explains to Andrew that he will be one of the beneficiaries

0:36:000:36:04

of his cousin Ronald's £30,000 estate.

0:36:040:36:08

Well, thank you very much, Mr Fawcett.

0:36:080:36:11

-How have you left it with him?

-I'll write to him.

0:36:110:36:14

At last, they're making some headway on this case.

0:36:150:36:19

An agreement will be in the post to Mr Fawcett tonight,

0:36:190:36:22

but there's still no guarantee

0:36:220:36:23

that another heir hunting company won't get to him before it arrives.

0:36:230:36:27

What they really need is to get their foot in the door

0:36:270:36:31

and meet with some heirs face-to-face.

0:36:310:36:33

Which is what Paul Matthews is trying to do in York.

0:36:340:36:37

He's just arrived at the address of one of the children

0:36:370:36:40

of Ronald's maternal uncle, Ernest Jesse Edwards.

0:36:400:36:43

There's plenty of activity going on at the house,

0:36:450:36:49

but no sign of the homeowner.

0:36:490:36:51

He even tries the neighbours before calling back to the office.

0:36:520:36:56

Er, Mr Edwards went away this morning for a weekend break.

0:36:560:37:00

Oh.

0:37:000:37:01

No joy with the neighbours, all I know is he's back on Tuesday.

0:37:010:37:05

OK, what about his sister?

0:37:050:37:08

Well, I'm just about to go there now cos it's about ten miles out of York

0:37:080:37:11

-and I've got to go back the opposite way to get to the sister.

-OK.

0:37:110:37:14

I'll leave a note, Dave,

0:37:140:37:15

so he knows at least we've taken the trouble to pay him first a call.

0:37:150:37:18

'No, fair enough.'

0:37:180:37:20

Paul heads straight round to the other cousin's house.

0:37:200:37:23

If she's not at home,

0:37:230:37:25

then his whole trip to York will have been a complete waste of time.

0:37:250:37:28

-But then, their luck changes.

-Thank you for calling back.

0:37:310:37:36

David's speaking to that other heir in York,

0:37:360:37:38

Ronald's maternal cousin Mary Lazenby.

0:37:380:37:42

She couldn't have called at a better time.

0:37:420:37:44

One of my colleagues is actually in York as we speak.

0:37:440:37:48

Would it be possible for you to meet with him?

0:37:480:37:50

Thank you very much, Mrs Lazenby. Bye, bye.

0:37:500:37:53

Dave calls Paul with the good news.

0:37:530:37:56

-Paul, hi, listen, Mrs Lazenby's just phoned me.

-Oh, right, nice one.

0:37:560:38:00

She's happy to meet with you this afternoon.

0:38:000:38:02

I said it could be about 20 minutes.

0:38:020:38:04

Yeah, I shall be there in... oh, about five minutes.

0:38:040:38:08

So it's not a wasted journey, thank goodness.

0:38:080:38:10

While Paul heads off to Mary's address,

0:38:100:38:13

David gets busy on the phone.

0:38:130:38:15

Yes, this is Fraser & Fraser here.

0:38:150:38:18

Henry Fawcett's six children have spread out all over the country.

0:38:180:38:22

The fact is, we're trying to contact all members of the Fawcett family

0:38:220:38:26

regarding an estate of a cousin of yours that has since passed away.

0:38:260:38:30

There's no sign of any competition so far on this case,

0:38:300:38:34

but David knows that they can appear at any time.

0:38:340:38:38

So he's making every effort to get all these heirs signed up.

0:38:380:38:41

I'll be getting a letter in the post to you today

0:38:410:38:43

and, no doubt, we'll speak further about this in the near future.

0:38:430:38:47

In York, Paul Matthews arrives at Mary Lazenby's address.

0:38:470:38:52

Mary is Ronald's first cousin,

0:38:530:38:55

the daughter of his mother's brother, Ernest Jesse Edwards.

0:38:550:38:57

Paul talks Mary through the details of her cousin Ronald's estate

0:38:590:39:03

and how she came to be contacted.

0:39:030:39:06

What happens in these cases, invariably, is he's passed away,

0:39:060:39:09

-he's kept himself to himself, the neighbours haven't got a clue.

-No.

0:39:090:39:13

-The social services get involved.

-Yeah.

0:39:130:39:15

-They'll arrange a funeral.

-Yeah.

0:39:150:39:17

And then, sooner or later, they look for relatives

0:39:170:39:20

and then we get involved and we come and tell people about it.

0:39:200:39:24

Yeah. It's quite sad, really.

0:39:240:39:26

After hearing what Paul has to say,

0:39:260:39:29

Mary decides to sign an agreement there and then.

0:39:290:39:32

It's a fantastic result for Paul and the whole company.

0:39:320:39:36

Their first signed-up heir on this case.

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-OK, thanks very much indeed.

-Bye, bye.

-Bye, bye.

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-'Hello?'

-Hello, Dave, Paul. I've seen Mrs Lazenby, very nice lady.

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-She's signed up with us.

-She did? Well done.

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Her brother gets back on Tuesday. She will tell him about our visit.

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But by then, he'll have a letter waiting when he gets back.

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Yeah, I'm sending a letter to him today.

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Mary and her brother Ernest are the only two heirs

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on the maternal side of Ronald's family tree.

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But despite being such a small family,

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Mary only had very vague contact with her cousin.

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Ron was very different. He would never, erm...

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Although he was, sort of, family-aware,

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he didn't want any more contact.

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I think he was just one of these very lone people.

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I do think it's really important to keep in contact with family

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and, I must admit, I do keep in touch with quite a few other cousins,

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but Ron, as I say, was a little bit different.

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Meanwhile, Paul is back on the road. His day is far from over.

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He's now driving 60 miles south to Sheffield,

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where he's booked in to visit at least one more heir.

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It's going to be a late finish, I'm afraid.

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He's got an appointment to visit Frances,

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one of Henry Fawcett's six children

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and another of Ronald's first cousins on the paternal side.

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When Paul does arrive in Sheffield, he gets an enthusiastic welcome.

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DOG WHINES

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-Hello.

-Hello.

-Mrs Crabtree?

-It is, yes.

0:41:130:41:16

-Hello, Paul Matthews, Fraser & Fraser.

-Oh, hello.

-We were expected?

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-Yeah, come in.

-Nice to meet you.

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Frances is interested to hear

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how Paul has got on with contacting other members of the family.

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So, have you had to go to York to find out Auntie Mary's, erm...?

0:41:270:41:33

-Yeah.

-..family.

-Yeah. Mary had a brother called Ernest, Ernest Jesse.

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Well, I never knew that.

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It's been another successful interview for Paul

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and another signed agreement for the company.

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Nice meeting you.

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I hope you get a nice sum of money and all the best for the future.

0:41:480:41:50

-Thank you.

-Cheers, bye.

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For Frances, this sad news was the first she'd heard

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of her cousin for years.

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We didn't really know him very well because he was very shy

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and quiet and...

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We didn't really see a lot of him because they lived in Stoke-on-Trent

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and we lived in Sheffield, obviously.

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It seems that the shy, young boy grew up to be a reclusive man.

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But Ronald Fawcett had a large family

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who all benefited from his estate.

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So, in death, he won't be forgotten.

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In the end, Frasers managed to sign up nine out of the ten heirs

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to Ronald Fawcett's estate, which was eventually valued at £13,000,

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less than the company had hoped for.

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But still an unexpected windfall for the heirs.

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Very happy the way this worked together.

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The team did very well and worked hard.

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We identified about ten people, erm,

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and are representing much of the family in this matter.

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