Browse content similar to Smith/Gray. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
Every Thursday morning across the UK, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
heir hunting companies scan the Treasury's list | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
of recent unclaimed estates. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
In London, one company has found a case that could be worth | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
a possible £400,000. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Their job is to find the long-lost relatives who have no idea | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
they could be in line for a windfall. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
On today's programme, the team chases the heirs | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
to a £400,000 estate after a will goes drastically wrong. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
He must be turning in his grave now | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
to find that the money will be going to somebody he never met | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and never knew. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
And one man's secretive past leaves heir hunters and friends guessing | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
as to whether there are any beneficiaries | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
to his £38,000 inheritance. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
I get the feeling he'd either fallen out with his parents | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
or his parents were dead. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
And how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
where beneficiaries need to be found. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Could you be in line for a cash payout? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Every year in the UK, an estimated 300,000 people die | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
without leaving a will. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
If no relatives are found, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:35 | |
then any money that's left behind will go to the government. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
And, last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
But there are over 30 specialist firms competing | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
to stop this happening. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
They're called heir hunters and they make it their business | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
to track down missing relatives | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
It's one of the very, very few jobs in the world where you can, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
basically, discover things for a living. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
It's a Thursday morning in London | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
and, overnight, the Treasury has advertised a new list of names | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
of unclaimed estates. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Heir hunting company Fraser & Fraser are searching the lists | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
for cases to investigate. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Having picked names they think could have value, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
the estates the company will work are divided up | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
amongst the case managers in the office. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Some look more difficult to work than others. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Looks like we've got a case called Gordon Arthur Smith, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
died in, erm, Dorset. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
Smith is one of the most common surnames in the UK. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
For this reason, most heir hunting firms normally run a mile, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
as they don't have the manpower or resources to take on | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
such a potentially time-consuming case. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
But partner Neil is willing to gamble. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Get in there and don't waste any time. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
It's not an easy name to work, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
it's not a good combination of initials to work | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and it's not really a great Christian name to work. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Erm, so it's going to be quite tricky to get on. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
We can't find his address, there's just too many of them around. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
But case manager David Milchard, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
known in the office as Grimble, has decades of experience | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
in the world of probate research | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
and has dealt with many a Smith case before. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-The same name. -A bit challenging, really. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
Challenging or not, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Neil suspects there could be a lot of money in this estate. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
If there are heirs out there, the team hope to find them. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
Gordon Arthur Smith died in May 2009 in the Wimborne area of Dorset. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
He passed away aged 81. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
His neighbour Pamela Jury remembers him fondly. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Extremely friendly. He was just so nice, so welcoming. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
Because Gordon died without leaving a valid will, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
his estate was advertised on the Treasury's list | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
and this is where the heir hunters begin their work. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Grimble passes the case to researcher Isha Adams | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
who has the unenviable task of getting the basic research under way. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Smith is a terrible name to work. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
And all we've been given is a place of death, which is in Dorset. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
Um, so, basically, we're just going to try and find an address for him. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
Before the team can move any further with the case, they need to work out | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
exactly which Gordon Smith they need to be looking into. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Using the electoral roll, Isha finds an address in Dorset | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
where Gordon could have lived. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I'm going to have to ring a few people and see whether or not | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
they still live there and whether or not it's our deceased or not. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Ringing the potential neighbours of the deceased can be | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
an extremely helpful exercise for the heir hunters. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It allows them to whittle down the numerous Gordon Smiths | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
recorded as living in Dorset. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Good morning. Very sorry to trouble you, sir. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
My name's David Slee, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
I'm with a company in London by the name of Fraser & Fraser. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
We're endeavouring to trace the next-of-kin of a gentleman | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
who's died by the name of Gordon Arthur Smith. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
But after a brief exchange... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Good, that's all I needed to know, sir. I've got the wrong family. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Thanks for your time, sir. Bye-bye. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Wrong family. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Despite this set back, at least the team can eliminate | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
one of many Gordon Smiths from their list. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And, across the office, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Isha has made a small but significant break through. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
We have the date of birth now | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
and there are three possible births that... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Two possible births, then. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
There were three births, one has a third Christian name. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
We've been able to eliminate him because he dies. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Got the other two. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
One's born in West Ham, that looks the best of the two. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
The other one's born in the Sheffield area. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Again, they use the electoral roll to try and find addresses | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
and people who may have known the deceased. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
David manages to speak to a neighbour | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
who lived next door to a Gordon Smith. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
Did you know Mr Smith at all? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Did Mr and Mrs Smith own their property, then? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
They did, they owned the property, yeah. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
This is the news the heir hunters have been waiting for. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Not only has David found the right Gordon Smith, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
the neighbour also tells him that Gordon owned his house. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
This confirms what Neil suspected, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
that the estate could be worth as much as £400,000. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Well, OK. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
From speaking to people who knew the deceased | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
they start to build a picture of his life. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Gordon and his wife June retired to St Leonards in Ringwood, Dorset, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
after having lived and worked in Sheffield for most of their lives. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
Childhood sweethearts, they'd gone to school together | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
and later married in 1953. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
The pair were inseparable. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
They were a lovely couple and so helpful, very sociable. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
And, um, we got to know them, you know, reasonably well, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
as neighbours. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
June's niece Jacqueline Stobbs remembers | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
just how happy the couple were during their retirement. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Gordon and June called Ringwood their little piece of paradise. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
It's about, over 30 years, they moved down here. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Cos they loved it down here. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
My auntie loved the beach and she loved the place. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Sadly, June died in 2007, followed by Gordon in 2009. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:06 | |
The heir hunters have discovered | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
he passed away leaving a property worth an estimated £400,000. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
It's a massive amount of money and, in order to beat any competition | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
that may be out there, the team need to get moving fast. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
We're going to need him up there as soon as poss, so... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Don't worry about what he's doing. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
The team scrambles to get a travelling heir hunter on his way. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
If Gordon was born in Sheffield, it's a very strong possibility | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
that, if he had any family, they will be in that neck of the woods. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
Hello, Ewart. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Ewart Lindsay is one of the company's squadron | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
of senior researchers | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
who are willing to go wherever a case takes them. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
At the moment, he's cruising to Leigh-on-Sea on another job, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
but the news from the office changes everything. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
'This is serious, this is not a drill. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
'Please, turn around and go to Sheffield.' | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-To Sheffield? -'Sheffield. Up north of Sheffield.' | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
This is not the news Ewart was hoping for. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
God, Leigh-on-Sea, look where I am? Leigh-on-Sea! | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Why did they divert me from Leigh-on-Sea? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
No stroll on the beach and stick of rock this time for Ewart. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
He immediately turns around and heads north... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
..while the team in the office begin their hunt | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
for any of Gordon's relatives in the Sheffield area. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Case manager David has got hold of a telephone number | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
for the deceased's brother-in-law. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
I just wondered if you could tell me anything | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
about Gordon's family or any background that might help us. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
But the brother-in-law isn't keen to help with David's inquiries. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
It seems that the family are far from happy | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Gordon's estate was advertised, as he had actually written a will. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Thank you very much, sir. Bye-bye. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
Wouldn't tell us anything. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
Cos the will was executed incorrectly, cost them 300,000. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
-Ooh. -It's in the hands of his solicitor, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
but he knows it's gone to the Treasury. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
"I don't see why I should help you." | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
The team were not expecting this. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
David has been told that, after Gordon's death, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
the brother-in-law's family actually put a case forward to the Treasury, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
but the High Court Family Division deemed | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Gordon's will had been written incorrectly | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
and, therefore, wasn't valid. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
This meant it would be treated as an intestate case, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
exactly the same as if Gordon left no will at all. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
Although he wasn't willing | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
to help the heir hunters investigate their case, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Gordon's brother-in-law John is still in shock | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
at the bad news the family got from the Treasury. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Gordon died and we found out the will wasn't done properly. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
Jacqueline Stobbs is Gordon's niece through marriage. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
He must be turning in his grave now | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
to find that the money will be going to somebody he never met | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
and never knew. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
The inheritance would have changed our life a lot. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
My son could have gone to university without me worrying | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
where I'm going to get the money from. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
And my uncle would have been so happy to know | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
that his money would have gone towards my son's education. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
John was Gordon's brother-in-law and, through his sister June, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
had known Gordon since their school days. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
The pair were firm friends. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
When June died before Gordon, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
it prompted him to get his affairs in order | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
and make sure his estate would go to those closest to him. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
My uncle realised we wouldn't inherit after my auntie died | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
because we weren't blood relatives. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
And was very, very worried about the situation, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
so he wanted to make a will. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
Which Gordon promptly did with a little help from his friends. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
I went and witnessed his signature and that was it, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
as far as I was concerned. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
But the family later discovered | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
the accountancy company Gordon employed to oversee his will | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
didn't complete the paperwork correctly | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and, later, went into liquidation. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
It was a sickening blow for the Hobbs family, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
on top of having to come to terms with the loss of a much loved sister | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
and friend. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
Oh, we miss Gordon and June. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
It was a shock when June died, it was a shock to the family. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
We never thought she was going to go first. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
It was, in part, due to June's unexpected death | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
which led to the will being drawn up quickly | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
and whilst Gordon was in poor health. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
It highlights the crucial importance | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
of having a will prepared in good time and by a professional. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
Back in the offices, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
although sympathetic, the team still have their job to do... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
And, justifiably, Mr Hobbs is not going to help us in our inquiry, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
so we'll have to do it alone. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
..tracking the blood heirs to Gordon's £400,000 estate. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
The Hobbs family may not think it's fair, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
but it's better the money goes to Gordon's relatives, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
rather than ending up in the government's coffers. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Researchers Isha and David now know Gordon | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
and his wife June had no children. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
This means the team must start tracing his family back, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
in the hope of finding cousins or nieces and nephews of Gordon's. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
We've got a potential marriage for the parents on Smith, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
which makes the father Arthur C Smith. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
This is a great result, but the team knows, when it comes to Smith cases, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:50 | |
this could be the opening of a Pandora's box. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Coming up, Gordon's heirs are coming thick and fast, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
but can travelling heir hunter Ewart keep up? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
-'Any idea how long it'll be before you get to Sheffield?' -Ha. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
Every Thursday morning, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
when the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates is advertised, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
heir hunting companies scramble to try and be the first | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
to find the beneficiaries to an estate. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
But when taking on a case, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
there are no guarantees that a family's history | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
will be based solely in the UK. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
And during the research, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
the heir hunters can find themselves looking all over the world | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
for the clues they need to find the rightful heirs. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Michael Martello Gray died on the 17th January 2007. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
He was just 61 years old and passed away without leaving a will. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
As a bachelor, he'd lived his entire adult life | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
in a flat in Kingston. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
This was the same flat he'd spent part of his childhood growing up in | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
and, therefore, Michael was well known in the building. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
I moved in here, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
sort of, about 12-15 years ago | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
and I think he made himself known to me, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
either by just popping over and introducing himself | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
because he wasn't backward at coming forward with new neighbours. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
He would like to know very much | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
about who was going to be in the building | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
and what they were going to be doing. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Despite Michael's active interest in others, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
he was an extremely private individual. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
This is the only photo that survives of him, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
as a young child on the beach with his mum. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
But for all the conversations and jokes Helen shared with Michael | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
over the years, she still thinks she never properly knew the real man. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
He was very friendly, but also he did keep an awful lot back. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
After his death, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
Michael's estate was advertised on the Treasury's list. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Heir hunting company Fraser & Fraser picked up the job. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
I first got the case for Michael Gray on the Thursday morning | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
and we started our research then. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
And we knew the value at the time was £38,000, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
so we knew it was worthwhile looking into chasing any family members. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
The first thing the heir hunters did was to try and find | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Michael's birth certificate, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
as this would contain details of who his parents were. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Normally, the Gray surname would be a nightmare for the team to work | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
due to its common use. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
But not this time. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
The interesting part about his name was that Martello Gray was... | 0:16:43 | 0:16:49 | |
the fact it was an unusual second name and, obviously, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
we believe to be an old family name. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
But it was Michael's age, not his distinctive name, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
that would really focus the way the heir hunters approached | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
the beginning of this case. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
Well, we knew he was quite young when he died, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
so we'd got to make sure there was no very close kin. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
For example, his parents... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:11 | |
..conceivably, could still be alive. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Family was a subject that even those who knew Michael | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
couldn't really help with. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Never had any family visit him that I'm aware of. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
I get the feeling he'd either fallen out with his parents | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
or his parents were dead. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
David had to go with what they had. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Using the details recorded on Michael's birth certificate, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
he discovered his parents were a Jack Gray and Eileen Gardiner. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
So we looked for the death of the parents and traced | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
and identified the death of his father in 1962. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
And the father was comparatively young. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
And... And couldn't find the death of the mother. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
Michael's father Jack Stuart Gray had died aged just 44 years old. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
David turned his attention on what mother Eileen did next. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
We subsequently identified a remarriage for her, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
which took place, I believe, some ten years after when her husband died. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
Um... And, subsequently, we were then able to identify her death | 0:18:19 | 0:18:26 | |
in 2000. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
David had now discovered the deaths of both Michael's parents | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
and his research suggested that Michael was their only child. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Michael's life was a bit of a mystery but, from the research, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
small glimpses of Michael's background began to emerge. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
The marriage certificate of the parents shows the father, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
an architect, civil engineer | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
and residing at the Air Ministry in Shepperton, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
which seems to signify that he could have been posted abroad. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
Michael's father Jack was a civil architect | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
who worked for the Air Ministry in the 1950s. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
The Ministry was first created in 1918 to oversee the creation | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
of the Royal Air Force. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
It was a job that took him and his family to Aden in the Yemen, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
situated in the southern portion of the Arabian Peninsula. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
During the 1950s, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
it was not at all uncommon for an Air Ministry employee, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:31 | |
who was involved on air field or Air Ministry construction, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
to be posted and to take their entire family | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
to the place to which they were posted. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Some places were a lot more favoured than others. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Aden was not one of the most favoured places to go. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Aden is a seaport city in the Yemen. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
It's located on the eastern approach to the Red Sea. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
In the period the Gray family were posted there, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
it would have been a bustling town full of commerce. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
During the mid-1950s, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
Aden was, typically, a very, very busy seaport, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
positioned, as it was, almost at the centre of the routes | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
to the Middle and Far East. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
It was often referred to, at that time, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
as being the second busiest port in the world, behind New York. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
George Reeve is an expat who was also stationed in Aden | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
during the same period as the Gray family. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
He can still remember his corporal's reaction to his far-flung posting. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
He looked and me and said, "You poor devil," he said. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
I said, "What's the matter?" He said, "Don't you know about Aden?" I said, "No, Corporal." | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
He said, "Sand, sun and a statue of Queen Victoria." | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
And he was dead right, that's all there was. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
For the British working in Aden, it was a hot, inhospitable landscape. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
George still remembers his first experience of the Yemen climate. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I arrived in the dark and the door opened | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
and it was like Mum opening the door into the oven. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
And the heat, the heat you get when you take the roast out. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
It was unbelievable. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
It couldn't have been more different | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
from the Britain the Gray family had left behind. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
It rained about three weeks after I got there and I was rather shocked | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
because the airmen all ran out in their underwear to get wet through. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:31 | |
And dancing around and screaming and shouting. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
And I said to one of them, I said, "What the hell's going on?" | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
He said, "You'll see." And I did see. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
It didn't rain for another 21 months. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
As postings went, it was notoriously one of the worst. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
Facilities were extremely basic for both single servicemen | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
and families like the Grays. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
But this was just the tip of the iceberg in this harsh land. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Aden has really, um, dogged me for the rest of my life. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
And what gets you there is the poverty, and I mean poverty. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Poverty like you have never, never experienced. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
There was always the possibility of running into a riot. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
If you wandered out of bounds, which you shouldn't have done, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
there's always the danger of being robbed. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Not exactly the place you'd ideally want to take your family | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and it was the children of the servicemen | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
and Air Ministry employees who suffered most. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Children like Michael. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
Our sergeant in the department next door to us, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
I said to her one morning, "You've got a long face." | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
She said, "Well, our daughter died last night. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
"We came over from the mess and the ayah was beside herself, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
"didn't know what to do. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
"And we took the baby to sick quarters and she died." | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
It was in this world | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
that the young Michael Gray would have found himself. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
But it is the very fact that the Gray family moved all over the world | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
that could make the hunt for Michael's heirs | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
to his £38,000 estate even harder. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Coming up. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
To discover whether Michael had any brothers or sisters, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
David searches from Hong Kong to the Yemen. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It is a problem that there may be children | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
that we can't trace the birth to. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
that, over the years, have baffled the heir hunters | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
and still remain unclaimed. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
This is money that could have your name on it. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and each one could be worth anything from several thousand pounds | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
to many millions. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Today, we're focusing on three names from the list. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Could they be relatives of yours? | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Abdul Aziz Ismaili died in Holloway, London in 2004 aged 79. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:10 | |
His surname Ishmaili is extremely rare in the UK, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
but, despite this, all efforts to trace his heirs have failed. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
Or did you know Ethel Knowles? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
She died in 1999 in Kendal, Cumbria. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
If no heirs are found to her estate, the money will go to the government. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Or, finally, Margery Junita Olsen Bateman? | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
She died in 2004 in Bognor Regis, West Sussex. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
Her surname is very common but her first three names are anything but. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
Did you know Margery? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
If the names Abdul Aziz Ismaili, Ethel Knowles | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
or Margery Junita Olsen Bateman mean anything to you, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
then you could have a windfall on its way. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Heir hunter David Pacifico took on the case | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
of Michael Martello Gray in 2009. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Michael died aged just 61 without leaving a will | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
and, seemingly, without any family. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
His friends in the apartment block | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
where he'd spent most of his adult life | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
remember him as a quirky character. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Very eccentric. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Um, quite difficult to get to know, he was very private. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
During the hunt for the heirs to his £38,000 estate, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
David discovered Michael's father was employed by the Air Ministry | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and worked abroad in countries ranging from Hong Kong to the Yemen. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
All of this with his wife and young son Michael in tow. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
Michael's upbringing in far-flung lands hadn't gone unnoticed | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
by his friends. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
I wouldn't be surprised if he'd been brought up all over the world, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
that wouldn't surprise me cos he certainly had a very good knowledge | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
and a keen interest in things. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
But that would just be an assumption on my part, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I have no idea what he got up to as a kid. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
His exotic childhood could potentially be a stumbling block | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
for the heir hunters in tracing any brothers or sisters | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
Michael may have had. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
The problems that could occur with families living abroad is to, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
if they had children born abroad. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Now, if the father was in the army, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
we may find births of children in the army records. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
From checking the public records and army records for any other births | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
in the family, David was confident that Michael was an only child. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
Because we knew there was no close kin, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
we looked at aunts and uncles of the deceased. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
And it's quite possible that maybe one or two might still be alive. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
Because of the ages. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
But, subsequently, we didn't find any alive. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Michael's father Jack had three siblings, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
all of whom had passed away. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
David now turned his attention to their children. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
The branch of the family we subsequently traced | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
was of the deceased father's brother | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
in which he initially had three children. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
And, subsequently, we found two of them were still alive. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
So there were two surviving first cousins of the deceased. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
David had found his first heirs to Michael's £38,000 estate. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
His uncle had had three children, one of whom had died. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
This left a son alive and also a daughter called Anne. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Anne Gray was surprised to be receiving a call | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
from the heir hunters. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
Well, you don't really go round expecting anyone to contact you | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
when you've been left some money. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
I mean, it's a nice thought and I wish someone would leave me | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
a lot of money. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
But you don't expect it to happen. So, yes, I was stunned. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Anne helped a great deal with confirming | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
what David had already discovered in his research. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
But when it came to her late cousin, it was a different story. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
I haven't seen Michael for 60 years. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
I hardly remember him, actually. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
Just a little, blonde, brown-eyed creature. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Anne may not have remembered Michael, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
but she certainly remembered his father Jack. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
She knew him as Uncle Stuart, his middle name. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
My uncle Stuart was tall, handsome, brown-eyed, very dashing. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:31 | |
And then he drove this very smart, little car. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
I had a feeling it was a MG, but I'm beginning to wonder, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
it might have been a Riley open car. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Very dashing. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
Dashing as he was, he was a fleeting visitor in her life, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
dashing halfway around the world for his career. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
I didn't see Uncle Stuart that often | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
because, A, he lived in London and we lived in Yorkshire. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
And, B, he was in Aden or Hong Kong | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
or wherever the Air Ministry sent him. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Anne's memories aren't just of her uncle Stuart, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
she also fondly remembers Michael's mother. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
She was very kind to me, actually, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
because she used to bring me bracelets | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
and things that she'd tired of. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Nothing, sort of, you know, diamonds and sapphires, just kids' bracelets. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
So she was quite kind to me. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
To David Pacifico's delight, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
Anne was able to shed more light on both Michael's aunts and uncles. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
David now had a complete tree for the Gray family. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
Michael's grandparents had four children. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
This led to four grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
This meant a total of four heirs on the paternal side of the family | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
and, through Michael's mother Eileen, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
even more were added to the list. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
In total, there were, um, 12 heirs in total. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
Um, and four on the paternal side of the family. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:03 | |
And eight that are scattered all over the world | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
on the maternal side of the family. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
Throughout the hunt, Michael's adult life has remained a mystery. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
And it seems his childhood of travelling all over the world | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
was sharply contrasted by his later life, spent mostly in Kingston. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
His £38,000 estate will now be divided | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
amongst the family he barely knew, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
most of whom are now globetrotters like he was in his youth. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Gordon Smith died in 2009 aged 81, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
leaving a £400,000 estate and a will. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
But, after his death, everything went wrong. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
And we found out the will wasn't done properly. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
His brother-in-law John Hobbs and his family cared for Gordon | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
in his later years, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
after his devoted wife June passed away unexpectedly | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
from a heart attack. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
We were devastated by the news because we just couldn't see, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
sort of, almost, what it would be like not to have June next door. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
And we didn't think that Gordon would be able to cope on his own. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
He could hardly walk. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
He couldn't see very well cos he had two cataracts. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
And he was very, very frail. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
And I went nearly every day, took his shopping, got his meal ready, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
cleaned the house, any odd jobs to do. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
The Hobbs family didn't only lose a close friend in Gordon - | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
due to his will being completed incorrectly, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
they also lost every penny of the money | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Gordon had originally tried to leave to them. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
We know what Gordon wanted. And it's horrible, it really is horrible. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:58 | |
The family may feel entitled to the inheritance but, by law, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
the money can't go to them because the will was deemed invalid. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
In such cases, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
the law states only Gordon's blood relatives can claim the estate. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
Finding them is the job of the heir hunters, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
who, despite hearing John's story, can do little to help. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Their only objective now is to find Gordon's rightful heirs | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
and try and make sure his money doesn't end up | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
going into the government's coffers. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
It's got to be. It's got to be something related to this. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
The team has made amazing progress, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
whittling down all the Gordon Smiths till they found their man. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
Gordon's parents were Arthur Smith and Gladys Dickens. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
They married in 1923 and had two children. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Sadly, Gordon's older brother died as an infant. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
With no possibility of nieces and nephews, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
the team must now look for uncles and aunties of the deceased. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
This could lead them to Gordon's cousins. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
Born Arthur Cooper Smith in '01 in Wortley. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
The team track down Gordon's grandparent's names | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and use them to check the birth records | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
for other children of their marriage. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
They discover just one brother, a Charles Smith. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
It is now imperative the team traces this man. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
If he went on to have multiple Smith children, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
they could be in for a long and laborious search. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
How many births of child A Smith were there in Sheffield? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-Just the one. -Just the one. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
So you've got one birth in Sheffield, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
in Ecclesfield which is Sheffield. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
And we've got a death on age in Sheffield. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
I think that might well be him. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
The team have found what could potentially be the birth | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
and possible death of Gordon's uncle, but they have to be sure. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
If they can prove he died without children, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
it will mean there are no living heirs to Gordon's £400,000 estate | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
from the Smith side of the family. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
-It'd be nice if it were a complete dead end. -Indeed. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
-Aged 15. -Flu. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
Died of the flu? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Against all the odds, the heir hunters have discovered | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
that Gordon's uncle, Charles Smith, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
the last stem on the Smith family tree, died young of the Spanish flu | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
that swept the world in 1918, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
towards the end of the First World War. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
The name Spanish flu is a misnomer. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
It appears that the first outbreaks of flu | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
began in military populations. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
These were not reported | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
The first government to report flu was the Spanish government, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
which was neutral during the First World War. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
So the press latched on to these reports | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
and wrongly named this the Spanish flu. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Wrongly named or not, the effects of the Spanish flu were very real. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
In severe cases, they could wake up in the morning feeling well | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
and, within 48 hours, be dead. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
But it was the second wave of this virus | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
that did the real damage on a global scale. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
This pandemic spreads across the world. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
So, about half the world's population, it is speculated, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
were infected with the flu. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
The pandemic went on to kill up to 100 million people worldwide. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
And in Sheffield, where the Smith family lived, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
they suffered the same as everywhere else. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
Between October and November 1918, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
during the peak of the second wave, about 2,000 people died. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
And Charles Smith was one of these people, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
being just 15 when he succumbed to the illness. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Amazingly, over 90 years later, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Charles's death is helping the heir hunters get one step closer | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
to finding the beneficiaries to Gordon's £400,000 estate. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
It's dead. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:12 | |
So, instead of spending all day flogging Smith, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
we can concentrate on something else. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
And that something else is the maternal line of the family. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Isha is on the case. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
At the moment, I'm doing the maternal side, the mother's side | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
of the family, which is Dickens which is a much better name than Smith. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
At this stage, Isha thinks Gordon's mother was one of three children. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
One of whom, she believes, died young. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
Across the office, researcher Alan has also been called onto the case. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
He's come up with a lead from the Dickens family. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
-This guy here. -Yeah. -Dies in 1986, marries a Veronica. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
We've got a possible sure for that age. There is a bit of a gap. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
However, his widow is still alive at that address and phone. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Alan's research is on the money. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
The team has found their first heir | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
and it's just past ten o'clock in the morning. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Grimble is keen for Ewart to head straight to her house. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-'How long will it be before you get to Sheffield?' -Ha. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
-'Just roughly.' -Um, about two hours. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
While Ewart drives, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:25 | |
the team has found another uncle using the 1911 Census. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
This could lead them to another cousin in Sheffield. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
They set about organising a visit and trying to verify their research. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
I just wondered if it would be possible | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
for one of my colleagues to pop along and see you later on today? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
It's a great result and a meeting is arranged. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
Time to let Ewart know the good and bad news. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
-'I've made an appointment for you to see a lovely lady.' -Yes. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
'Don't blame me,' | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
I was told by Grimble that it's a one o'clock appointment. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
This time doesn't give Ewart much margin for error | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
and, back in the office, the potential brothers and sisters | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
of Gordon's mum are coming thick and fast. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
She had one, two, three, four, five, six siblings. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
The team has managed to find addresses | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
for all of the potential cousins of Gordon Smith. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
It's now just a case of calling them to hopefully set up meetings. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
And Ewart has arrived in time for his first appointment | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
with a cousin of Gordon's. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:31 | |
It's a relief for everyone to finally make contact with an heir | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
and, to the team's delight, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
Ewart has worked his magic at the first meeting. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
-Hello, Dave. -'How you doing?' -Not bad. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
-Right, I've got a signature from... -'Ooh, well done.' | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
-We haven't seen any competition as yet. -Okey-dokey. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
-'All right?' -Yeah, all right. -'OK, I'll speak to you later then.' | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
-Yeah, cheers. -OK, bye. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
The team have signed up their first heir | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
and case manager Grimble is pleased the name of Smith | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
seems to have scared away rival companies. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
We haven't seen any competition yet. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
That means nothing, it could come in later or tomorrow. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
So we just have to see how it pans out now. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
No matter what happens, partner Neil can't believe | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
how well the team's done and it isn't even lunch time. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
It's probably a record on a Smith case to be this far ahead, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
this early in the day, really. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
But they still need to get all of the heirs to sign with Frasers. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Ewart's next meeting is also in Sheffield. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
He's come to meet another cousin of Gordon's called Pat Dickens. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
What I'm here to do is just really | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
run through a questionnaire with you, just to confirm who you are | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
and if, indeed, you are part of the family. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Ewart quickly realises just how estranged Gordon was | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
from his mother Gladys's side of the family. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-Never had any contact with him? -No. -Never seen him before? -No. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Never met him? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
Ewart goes through the standard questions and paperwork with Pat. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
At the end of their meeting, she is happy to sign on the dotted line. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
There's an agreement for you to sign, OK? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
-Take care, take care. Bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
With the paperwork complete, Ewart heads off to his next appointment. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
The death of a cousin she never met has left Pat speculating | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
as to why she never knew that side of her family. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
Obviously, the age difference between my auntie Gladys | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
and my dad was a generation, an absolute generation. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:47 | |
20 years. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
It's, er... And that's possibly why. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
And it's another heir ticked off for the office. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
By just 11 o'clock on Thursday morning, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
the team have accounted for Gordon's eight cousins, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
who will all be heirs to his £400,000 estate. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
Fraser & Fraser's travelling heir hunters have now visited them all. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
Partner Neil is over the moon with the team's work. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
To be able to solve a Smith case by lunch time on the first day | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
of research is exceptional. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Um, David Milchard | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
and his team have done incredibly well to be able to tidy up | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
all of the loose ends and to work out the full extent of the family. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
But it was a family Gordon had never really known. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
His heirs are completely unaware of the upheaval that has happened | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
with his will. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
But they'll all now inherit a percentage of his estate. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
An estate the Treasury now says is actually worth £150,000, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
not the 400,000 first suspected by the team. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
It's still a bitter pill for the Hobbs family to swallow | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
and it highlights the vital importance | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
of having a will made out correctly and by a professional. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
If I could go back in time, the one thing I would have done | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
is taken my uncle to a solicitor, someone who's qualified to do a will | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
and not trusted somebody who said he knew how to do wills. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
At the present time in the UK, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
the law doesn't require any qualifications or standards | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
within the will-making industry | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
and if something goes wrong, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
it's the law that decides where the money goes. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
They've got to regulate the will situation | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
because this is going to happen to a lot more people than just us. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
If you would like advice about making a will | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
or building your family tree go to: | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 |