Cator/Mukerji Heir Hunters


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In London, the heir hunters have found an unclaimed estate

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on the Treasury's list

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that could be worth anything from 5,000 up to many millions of pounds.

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Their job is to find the long-lost relatives

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who have no idea they could be in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme, mistakes, confusing family trees

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and common surnames all make the heir hunters' job that much harder.

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Sorry, I've got the wrong family and I do apologise.

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So that's all wrong.

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And a case that has taken over 20 years to solve,

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the estate of Elizabeth Mukerji,

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whose extended family had friends in very high places.

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He was the first Indian to be elected to the House of Commons.

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And how you could be entitled to unclaimed estates

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where beneficiaries need to be found.

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Could you be in line for a cash payout?

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Every year in the UK, an estimated 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found,

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then any money that's left behind will go to the government...

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and last year, they made £12 million from unclaimed estates.

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But there are over 30 specialist firms competing to stop this happening.

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They're called heir hunters

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and they make it their business to track down missing relatives

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and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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For us, every case is a gamble

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because we don't know how much each case is worth.

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We don't know how much work we're going to have to do

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and sometimes, we may not even get the reward.

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Sometimes, the reward may be very, very good.

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It's a Thursday morning in London,

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and overnight, the Treasury has advertised a new list of names

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of people who have died without leaving a will.

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-There's definitely no death for her?

-No.

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The staff at heir-hunting company Fraser and Fraser are in the office early.

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Partner Neil is trawling through the list of names

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but it's an unpromising start.

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None of the addresses I've got

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appear to be for deceaseds who owned their own property.

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This means the team must quickly research

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each of the 16 new names more thoroughly

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to discover whether any of them did indeed own a house,

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as more often than not, it is this that will make up the value of an estate.

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-This guy marries in '45.

-Where?

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The team's extra research has paid off.

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It's a case Neil thinks could have potential.

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Edith Hilda Cator died in 2009

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and there is the sale of a house attached to her name.

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House sold in 2002.

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But her address is a nursing home.

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The team are debating if this is where her money may have gone.

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-Yeah.

-She's been there for a few years.

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She's been there for three years at £30,000 a year.

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If the deceased spent her final years in a private nursing home,

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whatever wealth she may have accrued through property

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could now be all gone.

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Let's call the whole thing off.

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It may not be the most promising start

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but Dave gets to work,

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chasing the care home to verify just how long Edith could have been there.

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Meanwhile, Neil does the maths.

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A case like this, which is possibly £50,000,

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may gain Fraser and Fraser £5,000 worth of fees,

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which as long as we finish the research today, is all right.

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Huge gamble

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and we have to be very careful when we take on these gambles.

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But it's a gamble Neil's willing to take.

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Edith Hilda Cator died of a stroke in 2009 aged 85

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and she left no will.

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She'd lived in Watford, Hertfordshire.

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Friend Janet Fowler had known Edith for over 50 years.

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They first met working alongside each other in a factory.

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I do miss her an awful lot, I do. Yeah.

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After the job finished, Janet didn't see Edith for years

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but then one day bumped into her in town

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and their friendship was rekindled.

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And then I more or less visited her quite a lot after that.

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Paid bills for her, whatever had to be paid,

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did her shopping, did her washing.

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I mean, when I saw her, her face just lit up, anyway.

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If it was a rainy day, she would give me the money for a taxi home

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and if it was a sunny day, I'd say, "No, not today, Edie, I'll get the bus home."

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And she was very considerate like that, really.

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Yeah, she was, yeah.

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Yeah, she was.

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The team know that Edith lived and died in Watford

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and having previous addresses of the deceased is a big help

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to the heir hunters.

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With this in mind, case manager David Pacifico puts in a call to Ewart,

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one of the company's travelling heir hunters,

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who, fortunately, lives in Watford.

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We've got a case called Cator coming out in a place called Watford.

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Ewart Lindsay is one of the company's squadron of senior researchers,

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who are willing to go wherever a case takes them.

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Based all over the UK and abroad, their job is to follow the clues

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and sniff out potential heirs

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and inform them of their deceased relative's estate.

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She ended up in a nursing home in Watford.

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We've also got a previous address for her

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within the Watford area, so I'm heading to that address

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to see what I can actually find out about her.

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Back in the office, the team start to try and build a family tree for Edith.

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They've discovered that she married twice

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but the initial research into census and birth records

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isn't what Neil wanted to hear.

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It doesn't look like she had any brothers or sisters.

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It doesn't look like she had any children from either of the two marriages,

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so we're not looking at near kin.

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We're certainly looking at cousins,

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which makes my gamble even more risky.

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Certainly the research to cover near kin is much, much cheaper

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and doesn't cost us anywhere the money

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as if we had to go back to cousins.

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This means it's more important than ever for the team to try and wrap this case up in a day.

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Any longer, and the company's profit goes out the window.

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The team now knows Edith's parents were Kate Johnson and Arthur Goodyer

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and that she was their only child.

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Plus that Edith married twice and had no children from either marriage.

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Edith's mother's surname is a nightmare to research,

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as Johnson is a common name.

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With this in mind, Neil decides to concentrate on the paternal line

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of Edith's father, Arthur Goodyer.

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Bye.

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I've got the 1911 census in Watford.

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Two brothers still alive, one of them looks like he dies in the war.

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The second served in the war because I found an army record.

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He has one child and that child has two children, who would be first cousins once removed.

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The first heirs are on their radar and it's only 8.30 in the morning.

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Out on the road, Ewart's enquiries at Edith's previous address

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aren't going so smoothly.

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The only person I spoke to was the actual person who bought the property off the deceased.

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Couldn't give us any information about the family

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or if she had children, really.

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So I'm now at the nursing home, this is her last address...

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to see what information they can give me.

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The company has travelling heir hunters so they can try and stay one step ahead of any competition.

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Ewart is ready at the drop of a hat

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to drive anywhere the office asks him

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and that may be just about to happen.

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Thanks so much. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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I've just spoken to a lady whose relationship to the deceased

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is a paternal cousin once removed.

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Her father, who was an only child, was a first cousin to the deceased.

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Understandably, she's never heard of the deceased.

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But literally ten minutes before I phoned her,

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another company has been in contact with her.

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The good news of finding their first heir is tainted by the fact

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they've been beaten to it by the competition.

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Ewart's also got bad news.

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The nursing home is not able to help with his enquiries.

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He's back to square one.

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And again, I couldn't really get to speak to anybody.

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But from the office, there is a glimmer of hope from the Johnson side of the family,

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that the team has tentatively started to work.

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I've got a new stem that's literally just up to date now in Slough

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and I can't get hold of one person and I'm going to phone the sister.

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-So make your way to Slough.

-Right.

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Dave now hopes to contact these new relatives before the competition

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and hopefully get Ewart on their doorstep ASAP.

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Despite being up against other companies,

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the team has made leaps and bounds on the hunt.

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Even the maternal family's name of Johnson

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hasn't fazed research director Gareth.

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Cator's up to date on the maternal and the paternal sides...

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and considering one side is Johnson.

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This is an amazing result so early in the day.

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The team has found numerous potential heirs to Edith's estate.

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They are all cousins once removed

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and case manager Dave now starts to call them

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in order to verify the family tree

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and try and set up the all-important meetings with Ewart.

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Your grandmother was her aunt.

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Beatrice.

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Your grandmother was Kate?

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All right, let me go back over this,

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just in case we might have the wrong family.

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Worryingly, Dave's family tree isn't marrying up.

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You think your grandfather was William.

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OK. I think we have got the wrong family.

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I'm really sorry to have troubled you.

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Sorry about that. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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We've run with the wrong birthday.

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This is the last thing the team wanted

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on a case they've already taken a gamble on.

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So that's all wrong.

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Johnson isn't an easy name to work, as this costly mistake has shown.

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The team started off their hunt with the wrong birth certificate for Edith's mother.

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So we've got the wrong family of Johnson.

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So all the bits we've worked are her cousins, so they're all wrong.

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So what we've done is identified the wrong birth of Kate.

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Even though it's still only 9.20 in the morning,

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this is bad news for Neil.

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Whilst they've been wasting time on the wrong family,

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other heir-hunting firms may have found the right Johnsons

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and be visiting them right now.

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Look through that. If we can find her, we don't need to do the blood bit.

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Neil steps in to rescue this case

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and using the census records, he finds another potential birth for Edith's mother.

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And there's a Kate.

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Born in 1889.

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But amid all this chaos, there is one member of the team

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who is blissfully unaware of what's happened.

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I forgot to tell Ewart not to go to Slough.

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-Go back to Watford and do what you were doing, please.

-OK, Dave.

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-Thanks.

-Cheers. Bye.

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Something's happened down there.

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Ewart turns around and heads back to Watford.

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Fortunately, in the office,

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the new birth record for Kate Johnson, Edith's mother,

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is bearing fruit.

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Neil, Gareth and Simon trawl the 1901 and 1911 census

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for evidence of her siblings.

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It looks promising.

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Alfred and Emily, yeah?

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And then we've got Ethel, Walter and Arthur, I've got.

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Arthur being the youngest.

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This new lead would suggest Kate Johnson, Edith's mother,

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had five brothers and sisters.

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The team now have to find other records of these siblings

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in order to trace any children they may have had.

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We've finally got Ellen Johnson, who is the eldest sibling of the deceased's mother,

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that's the eldest aunt of the deceased, on the census.

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So I've got her on the 1901 and married on the 1911,

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so I now know that the marriage is definitely right

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and she certainly had one child, probably two children.

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And using this fresh information,

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researcher Emily scours the electoral roll.

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The new lead pays off.

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Emily thinks she's found an address for Michael Farren,

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a cousin once removed on the Johnson stem.

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I can't find a death for him, so he's probably still alive.

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We hope.

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Emily has also found a phone number they believe matches the address.

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I'm now going to try and contact someone

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who is definitely related to the deceased on the maternal family.

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But things aren't going Dave's way today.

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Sorry, I've got the wrong family and I do apologise for troubling you.

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Thank you for your time.

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The phone number was for a Michael - just not the one Dave wanted.

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The team will now have to pull out all the stops.

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The guys will have to try to get us another phone number.

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The team scramble to try and find another number

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for the Michael Farren they believe is Edith's relative.

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They have already wasted enough time with the Johnson name.

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Edith's estate, with its unknown value,

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is a gamble that will only pay off

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if the heir hunters are the first to meet and sign her heirs.

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Later in the show,

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the heir hunters may have originally chased the wrong family

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but this cloud could have a silver lining.

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The competition looks like they made the same mistake we did.

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We're hoping they still think they're on the correct family.

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Heir-hunting companies will always try and be the first to contact

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the beneficiaries to an estate

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but there are no guarantees a case can be solved in a day

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or even a week.

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Sometimes, the heir hunters can wait years, even decades,

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until the information they need to solve a case finally comes to light.

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Elizabeth Mukerji was born in 1900

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and died aged 91 without leaving a will.

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With no known photographs or people who knew her,

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Elizabeth's life is a bit of a mystery.

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Her £25,000 estate had remained on the Treasury's list,

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unsolved and unclaimed, ever since the early 1990s.

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But her name was not forgotten.

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Heir hunter Hector Birchwood always holds out hope

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that old cases can one day be solved.

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Any time a new database comes on line,

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any time we buy a new bit of information

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which relates to our business,

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then I pick up those old cases and I run them through.

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Hector works alongside his father, Peter Birchwood,

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and case managers Saul and Phil

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and together, they make up the team at Celtic Research.

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Like every other heir-hunting company in the UK,

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they leap into action every Thursday morning

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when the Treasury releases new names of unclaimed estates.

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But Hector never shies away from the challenges involved with an unsolved case.

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This case had been picked up and dropped

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on a couple of different occasions.

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Mainly because there wasn't enough information to find heirs the first time around.

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But with the release of the 1901 census, Hector tried once again

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to find the descendants of the mysterious Elizabeth Mukerji.

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For an heir hunter, it's a rare occasion to work a name of Asian origin.

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We don't see very many Indian names coming up in the unclaimed estates.

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Well, this is the birth of her father.

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And as Hector continued his initial research,

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Elizabeth's case was getting more and more out of the ordinary.

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I thought initially this might lead to India

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and perhaps I should be looking at the Indian records

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at the British Library.

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Hector got down to his research

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and discovered that Elizabeth had taken her surname

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from her late husband, Dwijendra Mukerji,

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whom she married in 1938.

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He was born and brought up in the UK,

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after his father came to England in the late 19th century

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to study law.

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In the 1890s, Elizabeth's father-in-law, Jogmendra,

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was one of just a handful of Indians living in England.

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But the Mukerji name was to go down in both Indian and English history.

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After he'd finished his studies,

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Jogmendra went on to work as a personal secretary

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for Dadabhai Naoroji,

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an Indian who'd achieved something quite remarkable in the UK.

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He was the first Indian to be elected to the House of Commons,

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the British parliament, in 1892.

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This was a truly remarkable feat

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because Dadabhai Naoroji had been born and brought up in India.

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He was quite a senior political figure in India, as well.

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He was one of the founding fathers of the Indian National Congress,

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which became the main nationalist organisation and political party

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that fought the British for independence.

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So I'm sure Mukerji as private secretary

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would have met many of the leading politicians, British and Indian, of the time.

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Including Gandhi, who was visiting England in 1906

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to campaign for better rights for Indians in colonial South Africa.

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Jogmendra's meetings with Gandhi led to a working relationship

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bound by a fierce belief in Indian independence.

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Gandhi and Mukerji seemed to have

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quite an extensive correspondence in 1906

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when Gandhi came over to London

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and one can infer that Mukerji definitely played a significant part

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in India's freedom fight.

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But despite his political views about the British in India,

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it didn't stop Elizabeth's father-in-law Jogmendra

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falling in love and marrying an Englishwoman called Helen.

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There's also the possibility

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they were one of the first Anglo-Indian marriages in the UK.

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So there would have been surprise from both sides,

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from his own family back in India and from her family in England.

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Whatever their families' concerns,

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the couple went on to have Dwijendra, who later went on to marry Elizabeth.

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Immersed in his initial research,

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Hector had originally thought the trail could lead to India

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but that was all about to change.

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Turned out to be a red herring because she had divorced him.

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They had no children.

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Hector started looking more closely at Elizabeth's side of the family

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and it turned out she was actually of Irish origin.

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Back in 1938, her marriage to a mixed-race husband

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would have been just as out of the ordinary as her in-laws' 40 years before.

0:20:440:20:49

It was quite an unusual for an Indian man to marry an Englishwoman at that time.

0:20:490:20:53

I'm sure Elizabeth would have faced some kinds of prejudice

0:20:530:20:58

for having an Indian surname, for being Mrs Mukerji.

0:20:580:21:02

So for Hector,

0:21:020:21:04

what had started out potentially as an international heir hunt

0:21:040:21:07

was now a lot closer to home.

0:21:070:21:09

His research showed that Elizabeth's ancestry

0:21:140:21:17

was in Ireland on her mother's side and England on her father's.

0:21:170:21:21

From Elizabeth's birth records,

0:21:230:21:25

he discovered her parents were an Eliza McDermott

0:21:250:21:27

and Henry Griffith, who had married in 1899.

0:21:270:21:32

Hector began his hunt.

0:21:320:21:33

My first task was to identify

0:21:350:21:39

what happened to the siblings of the deceased.

0:21:390:21:41

She had two siblings. I think their names were William and May.

0:21:410:21:46

And I then was able to identify that they died

0:21:460:21:50

without leaving any descendants.

0:21:500:21:53

Hector would have to go through Elizabeth's parents

0:21:560:21:59

and on to aunts and uncles

0:21:590:22:01

if he was to stand a chance of finding heirs to her £25,000 estate.

0:22:010:22:05

So I then had to turn my attentions to the paternal side.

0:22:050:22:08

Through the census, I was able to find out

0:22:090:22:11

that the father of the deceased came from the Griffith family

0:22:110:22:14

that was based in London.

0:22:140:22:16

So I then had to find his birth,

0:22:160:22:20

then identify any siblings that he had.

0:22:200:22:23

He had two siblings, a sister and a brother,

0:22:230:22:26

both of which died relatively young and had no issue.

0:22:260:22:31

So I then had to turn my attentions to the maternal side.

0:22:310:22:35

Elizabeth's mother was Eliza McDermott,

0:22:350:22:39

a very common Irish name.

0:22:390:22:42

And this is really where the problems began

0:22:420:22:44

because although the census and the marriage certificate for her parents said

0:22:440:22:50

that the mother came from Ireland,

0:22:500:22:53

we didn't know where in Ireland she came from,

0:22:530:22:55

so I had to put the case back down again.

0:22:550:22:58

Yet again, the estate of Elizabeth Mukerji was proving unsolvable.

0:23:020:23:06

There just wasn't enough information in the 1901 census to find her heirs

0:23:060:23:11

and the folder went back into the filing cabinet.

0:23:110:23:14

It was to be a further ten years

0:23:140:23:16

before Hector would get another chance.

0:23:160:23:19

Well, I picked up the case again when the 1911 census was released.

0:23:190:23:24

At this point, fellow heir hunter Peter took up the case.

0:23:250:23:29

The information the 1911 census held could finally provide the clues

0:23:290:23:34

needed to solve the complex case of Elizabeth Mukerji.

0:23:340:23:37

Bye for now.

0:23:390:23:40

Later in the show,

0:23:430:23:45

the team finds heirs but the Treasury thinks different.

0:23:450:23:49

The reply, to me, was surprising.

0:23:490:23:52

Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

0:23:580:24:01

In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates

0:24:010:24:06

that over the years, have baffled the heir hunters

0:24:060:24:08

and still remain unclaimed.

0:24:080:24:10

This is money that could have your name on it.

0:24:100:24:13

These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years

0:24:160:24:19

and each one could be worth anything from £5,000 to many millions.

0:24:190:24:24

Today, we're focusing on three names from the list.

0:24:240:24:27

Could they be relatives of yours?

0:24:270:24:29

Eileen Lashmer-Parsons died in Brighton, East Sussex, in 2000.

0:24:330:24:38

Her surname is very distinctive. Do you share it?

0:24:380:24:42

So far, all efforts to trace her heirs have failed.

0:24:420:24:45

Or did you know Joanna Fredericksan?

0:24:470:24:50

She died age 90 in 2000 and lived in Wembley, Middlesex.

0:24:500:24:53

The interesting spelling of her surname could be Scandinavian in origin.

0:24:530:24:58

Or finally, Leonard Batstone.

0:25:010:25:03

He died in 2004 in Littlehampton, West Sussex.

0:25:030:25:07

Again, his surname is rare and easily recognisable.

0:25:070:25:11

If the names Eileen Lashmer-Parsons, Joanna Fredericksan

0:25:130:25:17

or Leonard Batstone mean anything to you,

0:25:170:25:20

then there could be a windfall on its way.

0:25:200:25:22

Heir-hunting company Fraser and Fraser have taken a gamble

0:25:290:25:32

on the case of Edith Cator.

0:25:320:25:34

She died in 2009 aged 85, without ever making a will.

0:25:340:25:39

Her estate ended up on the Treasury's list

0:25:410:25:44

but the problem is the company have no idea what her case could be worth.

0:25:440:25:48

If there's no money in it, we're dropping it.

0:25:490:25:52

Sinking time and resources into tracing her heirs

0:25:520:25:56

has already failed twice.

0:25:560:25:58

Sorry, I've got the wrong family and I do apologise for troubling you.

0:25:580:26:02

So that's all wrong.

0:26:020:26:03

The team believed Edith had married twice

0:26:030:26:06

but according to her friend Janet,

0:26:060:26:08

it turns out there was one more to add to the list.

0:26:080:26:11

I think she was really lonely and she wanted a partner.

0:26:140:26:17

She definitely wanted a partner. She didn't want to live alone.

0:26:170:26:21

Edith was in her seventies and wanted company.

0:26:210:26:25

As an active member of her local senior citizens' social club,

0:26:250:26:28

she befriended a gentleman called Bert.

0:26:280:26:31

He must have been over 80 and she was in her seventies.

0:26:340:26:38

So they were very late in life getting married, so...

0:26:390:26:42

It was a small ceremony

0:26:420:26:44

and Janet happily helped out with the proceedings.

0:26:440:26:48

I took her down the aisle to meet Bert.

0:26:490:26:52

And then, obviously, Bert wheeled her out of the church.

0:26:530:26:56

She did look nice and she knew she'd got someone to be with

0:26:560:27:01

and she wasn't lonely any more.

0:27:010:27:03

The couple enjoyed their life together in the nursing home

0:27:030:27:06

but unfortunately, Bert passed away less than one year after the marriage,

0:27:060:27:11

leaving Edith alone for the final years of her life,

0:27:110:27:14

a life that made a big impression on friend Janet.

0:27:140:27:17

I do miss her terribly. I do miss her a lot.

0:27:180:27:22

Even talking about her now doesn't help.

0:27:220:27:24

Despite the team initially chasing the wrong heirs,

0:27:300:27:33

it seems they weren't the only ones to have made a mistake

0:27:330:27:36

on the Johnson side of the family,

0:27:360:27:38

something that could now be to their advantage.

0:27:380:27:41

The competition looks like they made the same mistake we did.

0:27:430:27:46

What we're hoping is they still think they're on the correct family.

0:27:460:27:49

If nobody's told them they're on the wrong family, they won't know yet.

0:27:490:27:53

Gareth is quietly confident and case manager Dave is philosophical

0:27:530:27:58

about the problems they've had so far with this case.

0:27:580:28:01

That's all right.

0:28:020:28:04

It makes life harder for us, makes life harder for the competition.

0:28:040:28:10

At this stage, the heir hunters know Edith's mother had five siblings.

0:28:110:28:15

Of these, they now suspect four of them died

0:28:170:28:20

without leaving any children.

0:28:200:28:22

This just leaves Edith's aunt Ellen

0:28:220:28:24

and it's Ellen's grandchild, Michael Farren,

0:28:240:28:27

the team have been trying to track down.

0:28:270:28:29

Dave has found the correct phone number for Michael

0:28:300:28:33

and has left a message

0:28:330:28:34

but still with no reply, he's switched to plan B.

0:28:340:28:38

At the moment, I've got Ewart hot-footing it over to St Albans

0:28:380:28:45

to try and see the only beneficiary entitled on the maternal family.

0:28:450:28:50

This is a gamble Dave hopes will pay off.

0:28:520:28:55

With competition all over this case,

0:28:550:28:57

everything now rests of Ewart making face to face contact with Michael

0:28:570:29:01

before anyone else.

0:29:010:29:02

But arriving at the address, Ewart discovers his heir no longer lives there.

0:29:020:29:07

The heir had parted from his wife 12 years ago so...

0:29:080:29:16

But she kindly has given me a mobile number for him.

0:29:160:29:20

I've rung it, spoken to his partner

0:29:200:29:24

and I've arranged to see him.

0:29:240:29:26

This is great news

0:29:270:29:28

but only if Ewart is the first heir hunter to get there.

0:29:280:29:32

There are no guarantees that another company isn't, at this moment,

0:29:320:29:36

standing on the heir's doorstep, paperwork in hand.

0:29:360:29:39

It's a tense drive for Ewart but he finally makes it to the right address

0:29:400:29:45

for Michael Farren, a cousin once removed of Edith's.

0:29:450:29:48

And much to his relief, he's the first heir hunter to visit Michael.

0:29:500:29:54

Ewart's first job is to clarify they're dealing with the right family.

0:29:540:29:59

Your father, did he have any brothers and sisters?

0:29:590:30:03

I can't remember him having any brothers. I think it was just him.

0:30:030:30:07

-Just him. Right, OK.

-Yeah.

0:30:070:30:08

With the research and briefing done,

0:30:080:30:11

Ewart wants to deal with the business at hand.

0:30:110:30:13

-OK, that's the agreement.

-Okey-dokey.

0:30:130:30:17

Read it first, any queries, let me know.

0:30:170:30:21

And much to Ewart's relief, Michael is happy to sign on the dotted line.

0:30:210:30:26

This means he agrees to the company helping him with his claim to the Treasury,

0:30:260:30:31

in exchange for a fixed percentage of whatever Edith's estate is worth.

0:30:310:30:36

The fact he never knew about Edith comes as no surprise to Michael.

0:30:360:30:41

I didn't get on with my old man very well.

0:30:410:30:44

We was always at loggerheads. He lived in the Victorian age

0:30:440:30:48

and he had his opinion of life and I had my opinion of my life,

0:30:480:30:51

so we clashed. We didn't get on.

0:30:510:30:54

Like I said when you was asking me,

0:30:540:30:56

I can't remember who was who and who wasn't.

0:30:560:31:00

With the paperwork complete, Ewart bids farewell...

0:31:000:31:04

-All right.

-Take care.

0:31:040:31:05

..and quickly contacts Dave to let him know the good news.

0:31:050:31:09

-Yeah, you got an agreement?

-Yeah.

-Well done.

-All right.

0:31:090:31:13

It's a fantastic result for the team.

0:31:130:31:16

After all of the morning's ups and downs,

0:31:160:31:19

chasing the wrong heirs and facing competition,

0:31:190:31:21

they can breathe a sign of relief.

0:31:210:31:24

Well done. Thanks very much for that.

0:31:240:31:26

Safe journey. Bye now.

0:31:260:31:28

But it's not all good news.

0:31:280:31:30

It seems the time spent sorting out the whole Johnson debacle

0:31:300:31:34

has cost the team dear.

0:31:340:31:36

With respect to the paternal family,

0:31:360:31:38

credit to the competition, they reached the heir before we did.

0:31:380:31:42

Despite losing heirs, partner Neil is positive about the outcome

0:31:430:31:47

and happy they signed the maternal heir, Michael,

0:31:470:31:50

who will inherit half of Edith's estate.

0:31:500:31:52

In the end, it's a bit of a shame.

0:31:540:31:56

It's how it happens every now and then.

0:31:560:31:58

Some days you win, some days you lose.

0:31:580:32:00

We've lost this stem but luckily, we represent heirs on other stems,

0:32:000:32:05

so we'll still make our money back,

0:32:050:32:07

although we won't make much profit.

0:32:070:32:10

Hector Birchwood of Celtic Research has been trying for nearly 20 years

0:32:160:32:21

to solve the case of the mysterious Elizabeth Mukerji.

0:32:210:32:25

She died in 1991 aged 91 and left no will for her £25,000 estate.

0:32:250:32:32

Despite her Indian surname,

0:32:330:32:35

Hector discovered she was actually of Irish and English origin,

0:32:350:32:38

having taken the surname from her late husband.

0:32:380:32:41

So I had eliminated any close siblings

0:32:440:32:47

and any cousin relatives that would be coming from the paternal side.

0:32:470:32:51

So I then had to turn my attentions to the maternal side.

0:32:510:32:54

Using the 1901 census, Hector had discovered

0:32:560:32:59

that Elizabeth's mother's family were Irish,

0:32:590:33:02

with the surname McDermott.

0:33:020:33:03

It's an extremely common name to try and trace in Ireland,

0:33:030:33:07

so Hector passed the case on to his father, Peter,

0:33:070:33:11

an expert in Irish genealogy.

0:33:110:33:13

But even Peter had his work cut out.

0:33:130:33:15

We're talking about a period in the early 1870s

0:33:170:33:22

which is only just after the start of Irish civil registration,

0:33:220:33:27

so at this time,

0:33:270:33:31

not 100% of births in Ireland are recorded.

0:33:310:33:37

Elizabeth's case has dragged on unsolved for over 20 years,

0:33:370:33:42

mainly because the heir hunters had no clue

0:33:420:33:46

as to where her mother Eliza was born in Ireland...

0:33:460:33:48

..making the job of tracing the wider family impossible.

0:33:500:33:54

But the release of the 1911 census changed everything.

0:33:540:33:58

We found from the census entries

0:33:580:34:01

that Eliza was born in County Longford in Ireland

0:34:010:34:05

and from her marriage to Henry William Griffith

0:34:050:34:10

that her father was a Patrick McDermott,

0:34:100:34:13

who was a baker.

0:34:130:34:15

Elizabeth's grandparents had seven children,

0:34:160:34:19

including her mother, Eliza, all born in County Longford, Ireland.

0:34:190:34:24

From having that information,

0:34:240:34:26

it was just a case of working down the children

0:34:260:34:30

to find people who were still living today.

0:34:300:34:33

Peter discovered all of Elizabeth's aunts and uncles had died

0:34:350:34:38

leaving no children, except one brother called Joseph McDermott.

0:34:380:34:42

He had seven sons and this led Peter to his first heir.

0:34:420:34:47

Ann Foley is a cousin once removed of Elizabeth's...

0:34:560:34:59

and still lives in the family's ancestral home of County Longford.

0:35:010:35:05

When Peter first contacted her,

0:35:050:35:07

she had no idea who her Great Aunt Elizabeth was.

0:35:070:35:10

Never heard of Elizabeth at all

0:35:100:35:13

until Peter mentioned who she was and what her name was.

0:35:130:35:17

It was a shock, a total surprise,

0:35:170:35:19

that somebody was trying to track down an ancestor

0:35:190:35:22

from so far back, from 1900.

0:35:220:35:25

Sadly, as no photos survive of Elizabeth,

0:35:260:35:30

Ann will never know what her great aunt looked like.

0:35:300:35:33

Peter's research married up to Ann's memories of her uncles

0:35:330:35:36

and helped him finally confirm who Elizabeth's living relatives were.

0:35:360:35:41

In the McDermott side, my dad was the seventh son.

0:35:420:35:46

Five of them went to England.

0:35:460:35:48

'My and my uncle Frank were the only two that stayed.'

0:35:480:35:52

Elizabeth's relatives were spread from Ireland to England

0:35:520:35:56

and Peter had found six heirs to Elizabeth's £25,000 estate.

0:35:560:36:00

The company had waited 20 years for this day.

0:36:030:36:07

After signing the heirs and submitting their claim to the Treasury,

0:36:070:36:10

Peter was in for a nasty shock.

0:36:100:36:12

The Treasury rejected the claim.

0:36:120:36:15

The reply, to me, was surprising

0:36:160:36:19

because they couldn't read one of the names

0:36:190:36:23

on an Irish birth certificate that I sent them.

0:36:230:36:27

Hector knew the team now had their work cut out with the treasury.

0:36:270:36:32

Normally if we find that there is one mistake somewhere,

0:36:320:36:35

we have to provide overwhelming evidence

0:36:350:36:38

to be able to prove or refute any incorrect evidence

0:36:380:36:43

that is on any given record, so it makes our job that much harder.

0:36:430:36:46

But Peter has taken this blow on the chin

0:36:460:36:50

and has changed tack.

0:36:500:36:52

My plan right now is to go over to Longford Town

0:36:520:36:57

to get our clients proved and recover for them their share of this estate.

0:36:570:37:03

True to his word, one week later, Peter has packed his bags

0:37:050:37:09

and is heading to County Longford in Ireland.

0:37:090:37:12

Peter and Hector have worked too hard on this case

0:37:120:37:15

to see it fall at the final hurdle.

0:37:150:37:18

Everything now hangs on Peter being able to clear up the issues the Treasury has

0:37:180:37:22

with Elizabeth's mother's birth certificate.

0:37:220:37:25

We're just about to head into the cathedral

0:37:330:37:36

to see if we can find some baptisms that might help resolve this case.

0:37:360:37:42

Peter and his wife Maria are visiting a cathedral

0:37:430:37:46

where they believe the mother of the deceased was baptised.

0:37:460:37:50

It's a nice cathedral.

0:37:500:37:52

Any additional evidence he can find

0:37:530:37:55

will only add to his case with the Treasury.

0:37:550:37:58

-Morning. How are you doing?

-Morning. Father Healey? Peter Birchwood.

0:37:580:38:03

But Father Healey that Peter has come to visit

0:38:030:38:05

has some bad news concerning the cathedral's records.

0:38:050:38:09

As you know, we had a very tragic fire in the cathedral last Christmastime,

0:38:090:38:13

so we lost our original records.

0:38:130:38:15

We have a printout that was put together some years ago,

0:38:150:38:18

-so we'll have a look, anyway.

-What a terrible thing, the fire.

0:38:180:38:21

So what first name are we talking about?

0:38:210:38:23

We're looking for an Eliza McDermott,

0:38:230:38:26

who would be born some time in the 1870s.

0:38:260:38:30

Right. These are all McDermotts here.

0:38:300:38:33

Perhaps because of the loss of the original records in the fire,

0:38:330:38:37

they can find no record of Eliza McDermott's baptism.

0:38:370:38:40

Peter tries a different approach.

0:38:400:38:42

Mm. Are there any alternate spellings of McDermott,

0:38:420:38:48

apart from with one t and two ts?

0:38:480:38:50

But again, no joy.

0:38:510:38:53

Out of desperation more than anything,

0:38:530:38:55

Peter decides to show Father Healey the fudged birth certificate in question.

0:38:550:39:00

Maybe he can decipher the maiden name of Eliza's mother.

0:39:000:39:04

The mother's maiden name, maybe you'd have a better guess than I could

0:39:040:39:10

because I can't read it.

0:39:100:39:11

But even Father Healey can't decipher the handwriting in question.

0:39:110:39:16

Anyway, I guess we'd better just head off into the sunset.

0:39:170:39:22

I wish you well. Sorry we weren't able to solve the issue.

0:39:220:39:25

So, bye for now.

0:39:260:39:28

-Thank you for your help.

-You're welcome.

0:39:280:39:30

Peter is back to square one again.

0:39:320:39:35

Elizabeth Mukerji's grandmother's maiden name

0:39:350:39:38

is the key to cracking this case.

0:39:380:39:40

Plan B is County Longford's register office.

0:39:400:39:44

-How are you doing?

-Hello, there. Peter Birchwood, my wife, Maria.

-Nice to meet you.

0:39:460:39:51

We've got this birth certificate

0:39:510:39:53

and nobody can quite make it out what the lady's maiden name is.

0:39:530:40:01

Would you say it's Kirwin?

0:40:010:40:02

At first glance, I would think Kirwin

0:40:020:40:05

but we can check the actual original record for you.

0:40:050:40:09

Were there any other siblings?

0:40:090:40:11

-There were five or six of them, yes.

-OK. That will make it easier.

0:40:110:40:15

If we can't see it on this record,

0:40:150:40:17

if I get the book and there are siblings,

0:40:170:40:19

it may be clearer on another record.

0:40:190:40:21

Peter knows definitively from his research into the census records

0:40:260:40:30

that Eliza had six siblings

0:40:300:40:32

and he's asked the registrar to look for the original birth record

0:40:320:40:35

for Eliza's younger brother, James.

0:40:350:40:38

Hopefully, it will have the mother's maiden name spelt clearly

0:40:380:40:42

and he'll have the proof he needs.

0:40:420:40:44

It's a tense wait for Peter.

0:40:440:40:46

-No, it's definitely not in that one.

-Oh, no. What a shame.

0:40:480:40:52

I'll check the next one.

0:40:520:40:54

Early, I reckon.

0:40:540:40:57

No, no. I'll check the next book, just to be on the safe side.

0:40:580:41:02

I'll check the next book.

0:41:020:41:04

The registrar scans the lists of births for brother James.

0:41:040:41:07

Peter thinks he was born in 1879.

0:41:070:41:10

James' birth record could be the key Peter needs

0:41:100:41:14

to unlock a case that has remained unsolved for 20 years.

0:41:140:41:18

Folks, I have it.

0:41:190:41:21

-I have it for you.

-Really?

-Really?

0:41:210:41:24

-Oh, wow!

-Wow!

-Well done.

-I have it, look.

0:41:240:41:27

-Yes?

-James is in this book

0:41:270:41:29

and Jane McDermott, formerly Kelly.

0:41:290:41:33

There it is in black and white,

0:41:340:41:36

definitive proof Peter's always had the right family.

0:41:360:41:40

Not only do the books show Eliza's brother James had a mother with the maiden name Kelly,

0:41:400:41:44

there are also marriage records backing everything up.

0:41:440:41:47

Peter gets the registrar to print it all out.

0:41:470:41:51

-Your evidence is there.

-I think it is.

0:41:510:41:55

You have all of your evidence there to prove, really,

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that she was Jane Kelly.

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She was Jane Kelly.

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And she was never anything other than Jane Kelly, it seems to me.

0:42:010:42:04

-Thank you very much for all of your work.

-No problem.

0:42:040:42:07

-I'm sorry to keep you in over time.

-Don't worry.

-Well...

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After years of waiting, the case of Elizabeth Mukerji

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can finally be put to bed.

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Now armed with copies of the original records

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to add to his case file for the Treasury,

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Peter's one happy heir hunter.

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So this case is solved.

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I'm happy about the direction it's taken.

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We just need to get the paperwork in chain

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and we'll be able to make a good claim for the assets

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for the people we represent.

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If you would like advice about building your family tree

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or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk.

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