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'Today, heir hunters are searching for a family who have no idea they're entitled to £100,000. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:08 | |
'Could they be knocking at your door?' | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
Hello. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
'On today's programme, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
'the team face opposition from rival companies in the race to sign up heirs.' | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
He's been spoken to already. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
'And how a farming community used a digger | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'to ensure their friend made it through to his own funeral.' | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
George would have thought that was the funniest thing. He'd be telling everybody! | 0:00:47 | 0:00:53 | |
'And how you could be entitled to thousands of pounds held by the Treasury. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
'Could a windfall be heading your way? | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
'Each year, the government receives around £12 million of bonus revenue. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
'This comes from unclaimed estates left by members of the public who died without making a will. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:18 | |
'But it doesn't have to be this way. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'There are over 30 companies competing to return this money to the families it belongs to. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:29 | |
'They are known as heir hunters. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
'Another Thursday dawns crisp and bright. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
'Heir hunting companies examine the list of unclaimed estates, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
'which has just been published. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
'It's only 7.30am at the offices of Fraser & Fraser in London, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:54 | |
'but the team has already identified a case worth working. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
'Company partner Neil Fraser is leading the team this morning.' | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
We've got this case of Page. We were just looking at the addresses. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:11 | |
'Cases that have the most value | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
'usually contain property as an asset. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
'Neil and his team are always on the lookout for estates that are made up of bricks and mortar.' | 0:02:17 | 0:02:23 | |
She bought the property in 1970, just under her name. A property in Ilford. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Ilford in Essex, obviously in the southeast. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
So it's got to be a kind of pricey sort of property. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
'Considering the location and the value of neighbouring houses, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
'the team's working on the assumption that Barbara's estate is worth a very healthy £100,000. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:49 | |
'This is worth working for the team, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
'who take a commission based on the estate's final value. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
'Barbara Ethel Page died in January 2010, aged 80, in Ilford. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:05 | |
'The love of Barbara's life was George Page, known as Bill, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
'who she married in 1951. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
'Good friends of Bill and Barbara's were Ron and Elsie Goldspink. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
'When their son Phil Goldspink was growing up, Barbara was close by.' | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
She was very outgoing. She wasn't afraid to have a gin and tonic. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:28 | |
Wouldn't go out of the house without make-up. Always smartly dressed. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
My father and Bill were taxi drivers in the East End. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Barbara worked in the radio dispatch office. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
So she was a very confident person, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
very happy to talk to people, and she liked a laugh. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
'Heir hunters need to build a family tree to establish next of kin. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:52 | |
'They do this by using databases and public records, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
'including birth, death and marriage certificates and census results. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
'Available in register offices, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
'this helps heir hunters build a family tree for the deceased. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
'Debbie is already making good progress. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
'She's traced Barbara Page's mum and dad.' | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
I identified the parents' marriage. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
She doesn't seem to have any siblings. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
I'm trying to identify the deaths of the parents. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
'With Debbie making good progress on her own, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
'and Neil's suspicion that there might be property, he gets more staff working on the case. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:35 | |
'The colleagues split into two teams. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
'Gareth leading work on the maternal side, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
'and Simon Grosvenor in charge of the paternal. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
'Nothing like a bit of healthy competition to get the job done. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
'Work begins in earnest. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
'With Fran Brett as case manager, the search for heirs is under way.' | 0:04:54 | 0:05:00 | |
-Theresa... -T-H... -E-R-E-S-A. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
'Who will be first to get a phone number for a potential beneficiary?' | 0:05:03 | 0:05:09 | |
A-ah! There she is. No? | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
Where's St Olave? St Olave? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
That's, like south London. Is it? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
'In the lead are Debbie and Simon, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
'who have both made good progress on their opposing sides of the tree.' | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
I've just identified the census for the father, deceased. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
And he seems to have, um...a couple of brothers and sisters. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
We found the birth of the mother, Sarah Burnett. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
And she appears to have at least five siblings, all of whom are born in St Olave. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:47 | |
'Barbara's parents were James Westwood and Sarah Burnett. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
'James had six brothers and sisters, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
'and Sarah had five siblings. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
'This is great news, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
'as any children they had would be Barbara's cousins and heirs. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
'The family tree is sprouting branches at an alarming rate. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
'Simon Mills has found a marriage of one of Barbara's paternal aunts.' | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
I found what looks like a good marriage in 1930 in Deptford to a Mr Bright. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:20 | |
There might be a child from the marriage, so I'll see what I can do with her. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:26 | |
'Simon's not the only one with wedding bells in his ears.' | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
I found two marriages - Alfred's marriage and Ellen's marriage. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
Ellen married a Davis, which is not the best of names. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Let's get it down on the sheet. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
'These marriages are all well and good, but none of these couples will be alive. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
'Any heirs will be the children of these marriages, or grandchildren. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
'Getting this family up to date is the goal | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
'and it looks like we might have a winner.' | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-This is the first phone number. -Phone number? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
You're just too slack. Drat! | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
I've got an address. > | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
But I've been beaten to a phone number, which is annoying. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
We're claiming one for the team. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
'It's 8.30am. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
'The team already have a phone number for a possible heir. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
'You'd think this was good news, but Gareth is aware of the pitfalls of easy research.' | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
The trouble is that the competition are going to get it as well. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
'With crossed fingers, Fran makes the call.' | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
Good morning. This is a message for Ian... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
'But there's nobody at home.' | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
I've left a message. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
'With the team fearful of the competition being hot on their heels, they can't waste any time. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
'No sooner has Fran hung up, then Gareth has another possible heir. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
'With a potential value of £100,000, they can't afford to get behind.' | 0:07:59 | 0:08:06 | |
Good morning. This is a message for... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
'It's another answering machine.' | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
We have addresses and phone numbers on both sides of the family | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
but, unfortunately, there's nobody to speak to yet. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
'When they eventually reach an heir on the phone, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
'it should tell them if they're researching the right family. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
'Then they might be able to send someone to pay the heir a visit. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
'Bob Smith is on the road and standing by awaiting instructions. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
'The company have at their disposal a team of travelling heir hunters, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
'experienced researchers taking directions from the case managers in the office.' | 0:08:50 | 0:08:57 | |
Gareth says go to Weymouth. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
'Their job is to track down certificates, check records | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
'and sign up heirs. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
'Bob is an experienced case manager himself | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
'who's worked for Fraser's for 25 years.' | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
This is where the fun and games begin. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
'Fran has had a frustrating morning, but all her hard work might be about to pay off. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
'After leaving messages, calls from potential heirs begin flooding in. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
'Fran is through to a possible cousin to Barbara.' | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
Now, I'm rather hoping that you would be a son of John Davis. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:39 | |
Fran's on the phone to, I think it's Paul Davis, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
who's a cousin of the deceased. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
I know he's mentioned the deceased so I know we're on the right family. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
'Paul Davis is the son of Ellen Westwood and John Davis. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
'He is a paternal cousin to Barbara. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
'While Fran is on the phone, Tony is on a call to another potential heir. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
'Suddenly, the team are doing brilliantly.' | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
..A couple of children, George being one, your father-in-law... | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
'Neil is pleased with the team's work this morning.' | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
On the mother's side, we have one stem to finish off. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
..We know that Charles married and had three children... | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
Gareth and Frances, again, have got it pretty up-to-date. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
Do you have a mobile for him? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
'Crucially, it seems like all the team's efforts mean they've reached beneficiaries | 0:10:32 | 0:10:38 | |
'ahead of the competition.' | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Now, it is possible that another company might contact you. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
It sounds like we're first there. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
'The next stage for Fran | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
'is to book an appointment for Bob to visit Paul Davis.' | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
Would it be possible to come and see you later on today? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
You're out? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Well, we can do it all in writing. That isn't a problem. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
'Paul has no time to see Bob today and there's worse news to come. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
'When Fran calls another potential heir, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
'she's already been contacted by a rival firm | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
'and doesn't want to speak to any other companies.' | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Beryl's been nobbled. She's been told not to speak to anyone. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Bonk. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
I can't ring her STRAIGHT back. I'll leave it a while. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
'This is terrible news. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
'There's competition and, worse, they've been beaten to some heirs. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
'The only thing for it is to throw all their efforts into regaining that vital lead. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:42 | |
'Coming up, the strain of today's case is felt in the office | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
'and out on the road.' | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
The pressure's still on. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
The pressure is on. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
'Unsolved cases can come from a variety of sources. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
'Some are referred by solicitors. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
'Many are advertised on the Treasury's unclaimed estates list. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
'On occasion, a member of the public will call and ask for help. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
'This is what happened in the case of George Ardley.' | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
We get a lot of e-mails and calls. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
The majority of them are nothing to do with work for us. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
They're people asking for help with family history. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Every now and then, it sounds like an estate. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
'In 2009, the person on the end of the phone was Millicent Parker. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
'Millicent had some concerns about the estate | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
'of her friend George Ardley, who she'd known for many years, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
'until he passed away in Yorkshire.' | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
He was such a lively soul. I just never expected that. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
It was a REAL shock that he'd gone. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
He leaves a great gap in everybody's lives that knew him. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
I knew he hadn't made a will, so I got on to Fraser & Fraser. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
'George Ardley passed away, aged 79. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
'He was born and spent his life | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
'in and around the Yorkshire village of Uppermill. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
'George was a farmer | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
'and a well-known and much-loved character in village life.' | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
I met George when I was 17. I'd see him in Saddleworth, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
where I'd pick him up in my car and drop him off. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
On the journey, I used to learn about what his cows had been up to. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
There was one born the day he died, I believe, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
and one born the day of the funeral. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
He would have loved that because they were off a really good bull. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
'George's first love, pushing his cattle into second place, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
'was his mother, Eileen, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
'who he lived with all his life until she passed away in 2001.' | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
George absolutely adored his mother. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
She was the same with George, and they were so happy. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
As she got older, he really looked after her. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
She'd looked after him and he looked after her. They were lovely people. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
'When George died in the winter of 2009, Britain was experiencing | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
'the worst snow for decades. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
'Much of the UK was covered. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
'Few areas were affected as badly as Yorkshire.' | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
The funeral was cancelled twice and then on the third time, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
we decided we'd take measures to make sure it went ahead for George. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
'Julian and George's other friends called upon the help | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
'of local man Nick Harrington, who used his digger | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
'to clear a path so that mourners could get to the church.' | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
The snow was very bad. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
It was four foot deep on the top road, six to nine inches down here. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
'Although Mick had cleared a path to the church, Julian soon realised | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
'there was a final journey for George he might need a hand with.' | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
We realised, when everyone had gone into church, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
that the undertaker couldn't get George's coffin to the graveyard. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
So we put it in the bucket of the machine. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
As I'd put him down in the digger, I said, "I didn't realise, George, I'd be giving you a lift like this," | 0:15:29 | 0:15:36 | |
after all the lifts I'd given him in the past. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
'George's friends felt sure | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
'that he wouldn't have minded being transported in such a fashion.' | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
I think he'd have been very amused that his last trip | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
was in a bucket of a digger. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
George would have thought that was the funniest thing. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
He'd be telling everybody. He would have really loved it. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
'Following his conversations with Millicent, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
'it soon dawned on Neil that George's £160,000 estate | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
'was not just made up of property.' | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Mr Ardley was a farmer and in his estate was his herd of cows. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
They're having calves, so it's an ever-increasing asset | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
which, from our point of view, is very interesting. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
It's almost £20,000 added to the value of the estate. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
'When case manager Dave Slee | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
'began looking into George's estate of £160,000, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
'and his cows, he didn't have a lot to go on. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
'He knew from Millicent that George had never married or had children.' | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
The only information I had | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
was a copy of the death certificate from the deceased, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
which stated that he was born on 4th May 1930, in Oldham. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
Armed with that, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I obtained a copy of the birth certificate which clearly stated | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
that his father was Douglas Charles Ardley | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and his mother was Eileen Ardley, maiden name, Chaloner. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
'It's thought that Douglas and Eileen met in the summer of 1929, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
'in Oldham, when Douglas, a mill specialist, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
'was transferred up from London.' | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
They needed a specialist for some work at one of the mills, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
the mill she worked at. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
It was towards the end of August. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
In those days, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
the mills used to shut down for the wakes holiday. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
I think she knew him before they went | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
but I think they got together, you know, at Blackpool. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
And that's when their affair began. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
'In the early 1900s, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
'the main employer in rural communities was the mills. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
'During the summer, in an attempt to control work rate and keep up morale | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
'mill owners encouraged their staff to all holiday during the same week. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
'The mill would close | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
'and often the entire village would make an exodus to the seaside. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
'This was known as wakes week.' | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Everybody from many northern towns would go on holiday. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
Mostly to Blackpool. By the '30s it was really well established. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
Blackpool was a town of places of entertainment, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
with, of course, this very long | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
wide promenade where everybody would walk to see and be seen. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
If you didn't have much money, you'd spend a lot of time on the promenade | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
and the beach because that was free. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Young women wouldn't go in the clogs and shawl they wore to the mill. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:57 | |
They'd be in the most fashionable clothes they could get. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
In a rather gentle way, they'd be trying to pull. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
'And Douglas and Eileen weren't the only couple at wakes week | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
'hungry for a holiday romance.' | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
It was a tremendous time for courting. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
It was time away from work, from the usual routine. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
If you were already courting at home, you'd continue it on holiday, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
in separate rooms under the watchful eye of the landlady. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
It's a great occasion for "copping off", | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
particularly at the dances. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Those places were classless. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
A female mill worker might hope to get off with the boss's son. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
They were opportunities to take a step up the social ladder. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
'Against this backdrop of frivolity, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
'Douglas and Eileen's romance blossomed. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
'When they returned to Oldham and the mill, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
'marriage and their first son, George, soon followed. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
'And when Dave found the certificates, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
'he saw they occurred in quick succession.' | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
I obtained a copy of the deceased's parents' marriage certificate. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
The marriage took place only a month prior to the birth of the deceased. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
'It was with this certificate that Dave made his first breakthrough.' | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
It showed that the deceased's father, I recognised it immediately, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
showed that his place of residence at the time was Kentish Town. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
I'm from Kentish Town and I know that it's not in Saddleworth, Yorkshire. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
It's a suburb of northwest London. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
'This seemed strange. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
'If George was born in Yorkshire, why was his father listed as living in Kentish Town in the capital? | 0:20:47 | 0:20:55 | |
'This tied in with something Millicent knew about the relationship.' | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
He had to work away. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
She went with him to start with. George was only a tiny baby. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
She went with him but she didn't like it down south. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
After a short while, she was back here again. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
'Knowing George died an only child and had been raised by his mother, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
'Dave needed to account for what had happened when George's father, Douglas, was absent.' | 0:21:21 | 0:21:27 | |
I made a search at the probate registry and found that the deceased's father had made a will | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
and the copy of the will clearly stated | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
that he left part of his estate to his three sons, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
but not the deceased. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
'Finally, Dave's research had uncovered family for George. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
'Rather than long-lost cousins, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
'amazingly, it was George's brothers he'd managed to track down. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
'Coming up, Dave lifts the lid on a family secret | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
'kept hidden for over half a century.' | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
My priority was not the money, it was the "intriguedness". | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
"I'm 62 years of age and I've got a brother?" | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
'Every year, hundreds of cases are cracked by heir hunters in the UK, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
'but there are a few estates finding themselves in the "unsolved" file. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
'Could you help trace the beneficiaries? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
'These cases could be worth anything from £5,000 to millions, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
'and they're waiting to be claimed. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
'Today, we have three names from the "unsolved" list. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
'Could you be eligible to inherit a fortune? | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
'Winifred Elizabeth Balharrie died over ten years ago, in January 1999, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
'in Davyhulme, Cheshire. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
'Winifred was born in July 1914, and lived until she was 84 years old. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:01 | |
'Do you remember Winifred? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
'Might you know any of her relations? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
'John Herbert Featherstone died in Leytonstone, east London | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
'in December 2007. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
'Does John sound familiar? | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
'Perhaps he was a relative, but you lost touch? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
'Marie-Anne Rita Ingerborg Zarine died in February 2004, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
'in Rugby, Warwickshire. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
'Marie-Anne's name is very rare and originates from Scandinavia. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
'Did you know this lady? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
'Might you be able to help find beneficiaries to her estate? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
'If these estates are not claimed, the money will go to the government. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
'But if these names mean anything to you or someone you know, you could be in line to inherit.' | 0:23:47 | 0:23:54 | |
'Heir hunters Fraser & Fraser are trying to find beneficiaries | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
'to the estate of Barbara Page, who died in 2010, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
'leaving behind an estate worth an estimated £100,000. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
'The team made a brilliant start, tracing potential heirs | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
'and hitting the phones with gusto.' | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
What I'm talking about is somebody called Barbara Ethel Page who died. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
'But things began to unravel when they realised there was competition, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:29 | |
'and heirs had already been contacted by a rival firm.' | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
She's been told not to speak to anyone. Bonk! | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
'Philip Goldspink knew Barbara and her husband Bill for most of his life, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
'as they were very close to his parents, Ron and Elsie.' | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
We were all very close. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
We would spend holidays with them, Christmas with them. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
We knew them as Auntie Barbara and Uncle Bill because we saw so much of them. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
'Barbara married London cabbie Bill Page in 1951. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
'They always seemed very much in love.' | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
To say they were a devoted couple is an understatement. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
They were the perfect couple. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
'But 11 years into their marriage, tragedy struck for Barbara. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
'George died aged just 39.' | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
She was absolutely devastated. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
She recalled to my sister, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
my sister Anne, at one time, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
"I cannot believe that I'm widowed at such a very early age." | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
'Barbara never married again | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
'but remained close to the Goldspink family | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
'until she passed away, aged 80.' | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I miss Barbara tremendously. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Barbara was part of our family. Barbara was always there. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
At Christmas time, we didn't think of inviting Barbara. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
Barbara was there, and she looked upon us as her family. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
'Back in the office, things are not going particularly well for Fran. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
'But it looks like her luck might be on the turn. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
'An heir she left a message for has called back.' | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Hello, Mr Clark. Thank you so much for having phoned. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
'He's about to give the team a massive advantage.' | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Ah! That would explain why we couldn't find her. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
She's been 20 years in Lanzarote. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
That will explain why we couldn't find a death record for her. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:41 | |
Bye bye for now. Thanks. Bye. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Lanzarote. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
'Gareth wastes no time getting Simon Mills onto this lead, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
'tracking down a cousin they'd struggled to find a phone number for. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:00 | |
'She's living in Lanzarote. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
'And now the calls are coming in thick and fast for Fran.' | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
Two o'clock will be fine. Many thanks indeed. Bye bye. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
Mr Davis, who I spoke to first this morning, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
has phoned back and said that he will change his plans | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
and we can go and see him later this afternoon, after all. Brilliant. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
'Finally, Fran can put travelling researcher Bob Smith to good use, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
'and send him to his first heir, in the hope that they sign an agreement | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
'with the company, and inherit a share of Barbara's £100,000 estate.' | 0:27:37 | 0:27:42 | |
-Hi, Bob. -Hello, Frances. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I've got you a 2 o'clock appointment in Bromley on a job called Page. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:51 | |
'Fran lets Bob know he may face competition on the road | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
'when visiting heirs.' | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
-They've been contacting people already. -Right. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
-Telling them not to speak to anyone. -Really? | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
I think now, as a result of the phone call from the office, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
the fact that I've got an appointment and there's competition, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
that makes things... | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
You know, there's a bit of pressure now. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
'Bob's on his way to Bromley in Kent for a meeting with Paul Davis, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
'a cousin to Barbara, and a potential heir. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
'And whilst en route, Fran calls with some more good news.' | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
-I've spoken with a cousin of this chap. -Yeah. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
-They're coming along to his cousin Paul's at 2 o'clock, if he can. -OK. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:44 | |
-So you'll have two of them there. -Good. OK. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Speak to you later. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
'Bob thinks this is a good sign.' | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Things are looking positive for us. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
If they've cancelled another company's appointment, that's good. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
So... | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
But the pressure's still on. The pressure is on. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'The pressure's being felt in the office, too. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
'As soon as Gareth passes Fran the phone number of the potential heir in Lanzarote, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
'she's reaching for the handset.' | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
We did an issue search from your marriage. We found that you weren't dead and no longer living in the UK. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:30 | |
We found that you had two children | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
and that they're both out there with you! | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
'Finally, Bob has arrived at Paul Davis' house in Bromley. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
'Paul's cousin Martin has joined them for the meeting. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
'The team have been frantically working towards this moment, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:51 | |
'an interview with two heirs, and the chance that they'll sign a contract with the company.' | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
Mr Davis, I'll ask the questions to you. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
If you know a better answer, feel free. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
'Paul and Martin are paternal cousins to Barbara. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
'Paul is the son of Ellen Westwood. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
'Martin is the son of Alfred Westwood.' | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Now, your mother's brothers and sisters? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Alfred Westwood. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Wally Westwood. Jim Westwood. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
Theresa, Ellen... | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
-Eileen. -That's interesting. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
We don't seem to have that name on our family tree. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
This is one of the reasons for the questionnaire. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
-It was a name we didn't know about. Was Eileen married? -Yes. Two daughters. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
'Having been initially contacted by a rival firm, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
'Paul and Martin would like time to think before they sign a contract.' | 0:30:43 | 0:30:49 | |
Thank you. I'll be in touch. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
'But Bob feels the interview went really well and he has vital new information for Fran.' | 0:30:51 | 0:30:59 | |
-There is an additional person on the top line not on your tree. -Right. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
-Eileen Westwood. -OK. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I'm going to get off the phone and rush downstairs. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
'Fran quickly relays this information to Gareth.' | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
-There is an Eileen Westwood. -Can you follow up this person? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
She has two children. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
'The team have been told about the stem of Eileen Westwood, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
'another paternal aunt to Barbara. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
'Any children or grandchildren Eileen had would be heirs. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
'The team plough all their efforts | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
'into tracking down this final stem of the tree that they'd missed. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:41 | |
'Will they reach the heirs ahead of the competition?' | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Married to Margaret, if that's what you're doing. Maybe in Tonbridge. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
I'm cross-checking marriages of Margaret E Moore to Reginald. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
I've got an address in Rochester. Trouble is I don't think they're there any more. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
'Finally, the team have a lead for Bob and want him to head straight there.' | 0:32:01 | 0:32:07 | |
Have you got a pen and paper ready for this part of the family? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
Eileen is Eileen May. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
It looks like we've got one of the children up-to-date in Chatham. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
I've got to go and see him. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
'The team have now uncovered the phone numbers for Barbara's cousins once removed. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:28 | |
'Will they have been contacted by a rival company?' | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
Are you in for the rest of the evening? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
You're out at half past seven? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Bye bye. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
He's been spoken to already. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
'This heir HAS been called by the competition. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
'But they've been thrown a lifeline. The heir is happy for Bob to also come and see them.' | 0:32:47 | 0:32:53 | |
If you are able to see him between quarter past six and half past seven | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
-he'll see you. -I'll do my best. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
'Barbara's paternal aunt, Eileen, had two daughters. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
'One is an heir. The other passed away. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
'Her two children would inherit their mother's share. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:13 | |
'Bob needs to try and meet all three heirs, and he refuses to be beaten.' | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
Rise to the challenge. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Always have. Always will. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
'Bob certainly does rise to the challenge. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
'Over the next couple of hours, he has meetings with a cousin and a cousin once removed, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:33 | |
'one of whom signs with the company.' | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
That's it. 7 o'clock finish. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
That's not bad. I'll settle for that most weeks. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
'A few weeks later, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
'Fran has tied up all the loose ends of her case. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
'She and the team manage to sign the majority of the 14 heirs. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
'Two of whom were Martin and Paul, who Bob visited.' | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
It is a shame. We didn't keep in contact for many years. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
Although I knew her years ago. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
'The beneficiaries the company signed will share a claim to Barbara's £100,000 estate. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:13 | |
'Heir hunters have been investigating | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
'the estate of George Ardley, who passed away in the Yorkshire village of Uppermill in 2009, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:32 | |
'leaving behind an estate made up of £160,000 and a herd of cows. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:39 | |
'George was a big part of the community. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
'A devoted farmer, he was also something of a performer. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
'George was a keen singer and was known for his performances of local traditional songs in dialect.' | 0:34:46 | 0:34:53 | |
George sang at my 60th birthday and my mother's 90th birthday. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:59 | |
This is a recording of George singing. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
And they played this at his funeral. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
And it sounded wonderful. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
He had a wonderful singing voice in dialect. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
# Good neighbour folk, now how you bin? | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
# Let me tell you where I've bin | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
# What I've 'eard and what I've sin | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
# It'll cap you wi' your larkin... # | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
SINGS ALONG TO CHORUS IN DIALECT | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Great little man. Great little man. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
'When George died, Millicent contacted Fraser's, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
'as she was concerned that he might have had relatives, and his estate could lay unclaimed. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:57 | |
'Amazingly, Dave Slee discovered George had three half brothers, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
'who would all be beneficiaries. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
'Nobody was more shocked by the revelation than George's friend Millicent Parker.' | 0:36:04 | 0:36:10 | |
I got a phone call and he said, "It's Mr Fraser." | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
I thought, "Who the heck's Mr Fraser?" | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
I'd forgotten that I'd been in touch with him. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
He says, "You'll be surprised to know, we've found some relatives of George's." | 0:36:22 | 0:36:28 | |
I said, "Oh, yes? Have you?" | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
He said, "Yes. He's got three half brothers." | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
You could have knocked me down with a feather. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
The shock! I said, "What a shame. He would have been so pleased." | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
'In a bitter-sweet twist, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
'Dave's revelation confirmed what George suspected. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
'That after his parents separated, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
'his father went on to have another family.' | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
George always wanted to know if he'd got a brother and sister. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:02 | |
When his mother was alive, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
he didn't want to do anything and upset her. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Knowing that he wanted to know them, we were going to do something about it this year. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:15 | |
I just only wish we'd have done it earlier and found them. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
'Dave had uncovered three half brothers to George Ardley, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:25 | |
'all born in the south of England. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
'It seems that Douglas remained married to Eileen, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
'but moved back to London and had a common law wife, Phyllis Short, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
'with whom he had three sons, one of whom is John Ardley.' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
The letter said, "We believe that you have got a long-lost half brother. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:46 | |
"We believe that you will be a beneficiary to his estate." | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
My priority was not the money, is was the "intriguedness". | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
"I'm 62 years of age and I've got a brother?" | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
'Before hearing from the heir hunters, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
'John never had an inkling that his father had a previous family.' | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
I don't know anything about my dad's private life before I was born. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
I do know that he was a precision toolmaker. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
That's why he was sent to Uppermill to do some work on the mill. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
'Naturally, John was keen to find out what had happened to his long-lost brother. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:25 | |
'This meant a visit to Uppermill.' | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
We went for two days and found as much information as we could, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
went to the pub where the wake was held, and the house, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
seeing the neighbours, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
who directed us to Brenda, the flower person, knew him very well. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
I had Millicent's name and address before we went there. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
We went round for lunch. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
They were saying was what a great guy he was, what a nice person, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
always see him in the main street of Uppermill, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
cadging a lift to go and see his animals. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
'Once John had met George's friends, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
'he needed to understand the relationship between his father and George's mother, Eileen. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
'Unsurprisingly, Millicent held the key.' | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
I know his mother and father stayed in contact for quite a while. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:22 | |
George remembers seeing his father when he was seven. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
How much longer after, I've no idea. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
But I know there was a pile of letters. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
'John has had time to look through the letters | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
'written by his father to George's mother. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
'This has given him the chance to understand better the situation his father found himself in.' | 0:39:40 | 0:39:48 | |
They're a bit old to call them love letters. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
They're certainly letters that are to the heart, like. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
The letters are very meant. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
'Referring to George as "young Doug", | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
'John's father wrote frequently to his wife and son, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
'expressing how he longed to be reunited with them.' | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
"I want a decent job, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
"so you, young Doug and myself can be together." | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
It's basically signed off, "Your loving husband, Douglas." | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
Lots of kisses. Every one is just affection. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
It just seems to be, you know? | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
Trying to decipher between the lines before he met my mother, | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
he was trying very hard to carry on with his married life in Oldham. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
She couldn't get down here. He couldn't get up there. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
Transport wasn't what it's like today so it was even more difficult. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
'John's father never made it back to Uppermill to be with his wife and son. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
'In the late '30s, he met Phyllis in London | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
'and they went on to have a family of their own. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
'John will never know how his father felt about leaving his first family. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
'He doesn't remember any skeletons in the closet when he was growing up.' | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
I don't know whether my mother knew | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
that he had a son and was married up in Oldham. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
Nothing was mentioned at all. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
All I know is Mum and Dad and the three boys. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
'When the file was closed on the case of George Ardley, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
'John and his brothers were the only beneficiaries Neil and the team traced, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:32 | |
'equally sharing George's £160,000 estate and his herd of cattle.' | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
One of the things particularly nice about this estate | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
was Mrs Parker was a life-long friend of Mr Ardley. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
Her relationship is why we became involved | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
and we've been able to fulfil her promises back to Mr Ardley | 0:41:48 | 0:41:54 | |
about making sure that the right people get his money. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
'With these revelations, John feels he has a duty to the brother he never knew.' | 0:41:58 | 0:42:04 | |
I have promised them that I will put a stone in there, a headstone. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
His mother is buried with him, so I shall put a headstone in | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
with the relevant wording on it. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
And they liked that, the friends. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
'After meeting John, Millicent feels delighted | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
'that George's estate will go to his real family, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
'even if he never had a chance to know them himself.' | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
He would have been thrilled to bits with them. He would, really. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
That's my one regret. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
That we didn't try earlier. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
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