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Today, the heir hunters are chasing an estate with a potential value | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
running into hundreds of thousands of pounds. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Their job now is to beat the competing companies | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
and be the first to find the long-lost relatives | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
who have no idea they could be in line for a windfall. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Could they be coming to your door? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
On today's programme - | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
a family so large the office takes drastic action | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
in the hunt for heirs. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Don't you think that's art? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
The tragic story of a mysterious Ukrainian soldier | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
whose death in the UK came as a massive shock to his heirs, | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
who'd thought him dead a long time ago. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
My husband told me he was shot in Hungary. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
And how you could be entitled to unclaimed inheritance | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
where heirs need to be found. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
Could you be in line for a cash payout? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Every year in the UK, over 300,000 people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:30 | |
If no relatives are found, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
then any money that's left behind will go to the government. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
And last year they kept £14 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
But there are over 30 specialist firms | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
competing to stop this happening. They're the heir hunters. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
And they make it their business to track down missing relatives | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
and help them claim their rightful inheritance. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
It's all about finding the family and the money that is rightfully theirs. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
It's early Thursday morning in London, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
and overnight the Treasury has advertised a new list of names of unclaimed estates. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
One name in particular has caught the attention of the heir hunters, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
and they've already started their research. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Do you know how to get this intranet to work? | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
-Partner Charles and case manager David Pacifico... -OK, bye-bye. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
..are some of the first in the office, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and they let everyone know the state of play. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
-We'll work Wingrove. -Yes. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
Wanting to get ahead of any other competing heir hunting companies, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
they've been hard at work for hours | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
and have already conducted a lot of basic research. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
We're looking at the case of Daisy Wingrove, who died in 2008. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
She was a spinster, so she died without ever having been married. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
We've managed to work out where Daisy used to live. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
From there, we've obviously been able to find out when she was born | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and who her parents we think would have been. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
All this initial educated guesswork is essential | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
if they want to get ahead of the competition. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
Especially if what Charles has discovered from the probate records proves correct. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:20 | |
We've managed to identify that she did have two sisters, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
who have both died already. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
The last to die, died only about a year before her, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
leaving about £80,000 to the deceased. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
So the heir hunters have evidence this early in the day | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
that there could be good money in Daisy Ellen Wingrove's estate... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
-Did you know that? -No. -There you go. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
..and have already accounted for the majority of her close kin. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
Two of her sisters died leaving no children, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
but the third sister, Ivy, is an unknown quantity at this stage. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
It's a year out, but it could be the right court. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
If Daisy's sister, Ivy, is deceased, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
the team knows they'll be hunting her cousins. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
With tens of thousands of pounds potentially at stake, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
David Pacifico decides to draft in multiple travelling heir hunters. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
They will be his eyes and ears out on the road. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Morning, Bob, David. Have you been asked to go anywhere this morning? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
Right. In that case, we want you to go to Richmond. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Morning, Ewart. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
We need you to go to Royston on a case called Wingrove. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
OK, thank you. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
-Crawley. -Crawley, right, OK. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
David has sent some of the travellers | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
to collect vital paperwork from register offices | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
to help with the hunt, and to head to areas of the country | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
where the research suggests potential heirs may crop up. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
He can now get back to the important job | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
of finding out what has become of the unaccounted for sister, Ivy. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
Daisy Ellen Wingrove died aged 92 in a nursing home in Chichester. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
She passed away back in 2008 and left no will and no known relatives. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Despite spending the last few years of her life in a home, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
for most of her later years, she'd lived independently | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
with her late sister, Joan. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Their neighbour, Sheila Harrison, had known the sisters for decades | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
but knew the deceased by a different name. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
She hated the name Daisy. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
She wouldn't even recognise the name Daisy. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
It wasn't till she went into the nursing home | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
that I found out that she was called Daisy. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Sheila had known Daisy by her middle name of Ellen. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
And over the years, as the sisters got older, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
she helped the pair out with shopping and general chores. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
It was help she didn't mind giving. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Ellen, she was a real sweet person. She really was. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
She was an absolute sweetie and you couldn't help but like her. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
Daisy Ellen and her sister were private people. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
But over time, Sheila was told bits and pieces from their past. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
I knew there were four girls. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
I knew their mother died at a very early age. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
So I don't think it was easy for them. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
I didn't think they got any help from the family. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
They never saw any of the family any more after that. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
A family that the team's research is showing is a large one. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
Yeah, it's quite a big family. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
But their research could be in vain, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
as sister Ivy is still unaccounted for. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
And what worries David Pacifico is if they find Ivy dead, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
Gareth's work into the census records | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
suggest there could be in excess of 20 aunts and uncles on this case. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
Thank goodness David made the decision to send four travellers | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
out on the road. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
But first things first, they need to find out what happened to Ivy. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-So there's no death of an Ivy Maddox. -Not on our set list. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
It's all we've got. And that is just Ivy Maddox. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Debbie has found a phone number for a potential daughter of Ivy's. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
It's very speculative, but this could be the phone call | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
that decides which way this hunt is going to go - | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
close kin or countless cousins. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
I just want to make sure we've got the right Ivy Wingrove. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Thank you very much. Bye-bye. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Wrong Ivy. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
But it proves irrelevant anyway. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
While David was on the phone, the team made a vital discovery | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
and now know they have a huge hunt on their hands. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
We've managed to establish that Ivy probably was a sister | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
and that she's died a spinster. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
The team brace themselves for the big hunt. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
All this and it's still only 7:50 AM. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
David and Gareth inspect the tree and debate their next move. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-We need some information on that side. -Yes. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-I think we need the other census really, don't we? -The 1911. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
-All of them. -Yeah. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Census records are a great tool, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
and Gareth knows they're going to need them today. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
If you've got a big family, they're having children for a long time. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
So we need to go further back. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
And the grandparents were born in 1846, 1847. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
They probably married young | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
and started having children straightaway. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
The team that are in the office | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
start to check the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
to try and find every single aunt and uncle of Daisy's | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
on both the paternal and maternal sides. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
They're coming thick and fast. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-Yeah. Albert is... -Born in Chichester. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
On the '11 census. He's single. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
The father had eight brothers and sisters. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
We're looking at all of those at the moment. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Charles may be laughing but Gareth probably feels like crying. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
The family tree is more than one man can hold. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
It's still very early in the morning, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
and the rest of the company's researchers | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
have arrived in the offices. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Straightaway they're put to work, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
tackling the family trees Gareth and David have so far compiled. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
I'm working on the paternal side of the tree at the moment. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
I'm working on the maternal side. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
At the moment I'm looking at the maternal side. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
I'm working on the paternal side. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
Partner Charles has good reason to dedicate over 20 of his staff | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
to just this one case. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
Through their research, the team have made a significant discovery. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
OK, bye. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
The fact that she sold her own house in 2007 for 200 grand... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
You know, there's going to be some money left over. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The value of the house plus the money that was left to Daisy by her sister | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
could potentially mean an estate worth hundreds of thousands. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
Oh, that's good. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
But if the team have found this out, so perhaps have the competition. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
Luckily, David has some promising leads. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Potentially we've got a couple of cousins once removed | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
on the paternal side of the family. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
It seems throwing manpower at this case is already bringing results. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
Plus the team's gamble on sending four travelling heir hunters out | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
for this one estate has paid off. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
We've got Ewart going to one of the registry offices | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
to try and obtain some birth certificates for us. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
-Bob Barrett to Richmond registry office. -OK, Cheers then. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Dave Hadley to go and see a possible heir. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
And Bob Smith, we've sent to Crawley to see a possible heir as well. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
The travelling heir hunters are some of the company's squadron of senior researchers | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
who are willing to go wherever a case takes them | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
in the hunt for heirs. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Their goal is to retrieve vital certificates and research, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
and ultimately meet face-to-face with long lost relatives | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
and hopefully get them to sign up with the company. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
I've been doing this job for about 17 years now. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
A long time. But I love it, I still love it. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
In the office, the team have made remarkable progress. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Having thoroughly scoured decades of Census records, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
they are now certain all of the paternal line of aunts and uncles are accounted for. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
Daisy's father was one of 10, and his brothers and sisters | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
are already leading the team to potential heirs. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It's a fantastic result this early on in the day. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
But the maternal line is proving more troublesome. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
-Got three children missing. -No, it was there. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Surprisingly, they've had 16 children, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
four of which have died and 12 are still living. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
On our tree we've only got nine children, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
so we're missing three children on the top line. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
Gareth again returns to the census records. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
This time the one from 1881, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
in a bid to track down the three missing aunts and uncles | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
from Daisy's mother's line. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Case manager David has mixed feelings about Gareth's hard work. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
What Gareth is doing, he's adding on several pages onto the maternal side. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:29 | |
You are talking well over 20 aunts and uncles. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
But I'm hoping not everybody had children. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Unfortunately, you don't always get what you wish for. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
The descendants of the Walters keep coming. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
I'm working on the stem of Agnes Mary Young. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
She seems to have had about six children. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
With a family tree beginning to resemble a forest, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
David Pacifico makes a suggestion. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Shall we split it? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
I've already, well... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
The only thing is I've already spoken to people | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
on the other side of the family. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
It's now 9am, and senior case manager David Milchard, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
known in the office as Grimble, has joined the fray. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
But he's not keen on straight away | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
being lumped with the maternal line of Walters. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
It's something he and David will have to discuss further. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
We said he's got to be born after '11. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
Trying to palm me off with 16 stems! | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Later in the programme, two senior case managers | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
go head-to-head in the hunt for Daisy's heirs. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
We're not lagging behind. Oh, I can be cruel when I want! | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Every Thursday morning, the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
is advertised to the heir hunting companies, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and they scramble to be the first to find the beneficiaries to an estate. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
But despite the initial rush, some cases baffle the researchers | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
and sit unclaimed for years. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
Mykola Lotocky died aged 76 in January 1992. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
He passed away in Mansfield, leaving no will | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and no known relatives to inherit his £63,000 estate. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Mykola was Ukrainian by birth, and according to neighbour, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Duncan Gillett, he was a friendly but private man, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
who he knew by a different name. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Nicholas was his name, Nicky. He couldn't speak very good English. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
And of course, every time you used to see him, well, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
and he would go, oh, oh... You know, that business. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
And I never got into deep conversation with him, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
but as far as I know, you know, he kept himself to himself. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
Mykola's language barrier may have caused his private nature, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
but he was one of many Ukrainians | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
who settled in the area after the Second World War. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Majority of them that were around here, as we know around here, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
are decent, hard-working chaps and they were a credit to the community. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
Mykola Lotocky passed away in a community that respected him, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
but didn't really know him. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
And his private lifestyle meant people were at a loss | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
to find his relatives after his death. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
His £63,000 estate was advertised on the Treasury's list, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
but sat there for years. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
His Ukrainian roots made it an extremely complex case | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
for the heir hunters to solve. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
That's until Hector Birchwood from Celtic research got involved. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
We have a very good agent in the Ukraine and I felt that this | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
case just really needed an extra push in order to get it resolved. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
And Hector's first push | 0:17:04 | 0:17:05 | |
was to look at the details on Mykola's death certificate. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
The best starting point for any heir hunt. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Well, once we had his death, we knew his age and | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
so we started to look for marriages by the time he ought to be marrying. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
And we weren't able to find anything for him. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
So, we also looked at births | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
that could potentially be illegitimate births. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
He doesn't have to marry to have children. But we couldn't find any. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
So, according to the records, Mykola had led the life of a bachelor. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
Well, all we knew from his death certificate was that the | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
deceased was a coal miner. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
After the Second World War, Britain was suffering a labour shortage | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
and there was work for immigrants like Mykola in heavy industry. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
And in his case, down the coal mines. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
It would been hard graft, working up to 1,000 feet underground. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Dr Ivor Brown, a coalmining expert, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
can recall his own days down the pit. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
They would have been very similar to Mykola's. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
We had to get down the pit in our own time, that is, if you were due | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
to start at 7:00, if you weren't there at 7:00, no work for you. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
When you got down the pit, you then had to walk to your | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
place of work, which could be three quarters of an hour journey away. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
It was a tough job, but the pay could be very good. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
And the migrant work ethic impressed the locals. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
The Eastern European's were excellent workers. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
They often learnt English very quickly. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
And they were generally well accepted. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
They didn't always stay long. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
They did often five, 10 years, and then, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
they moved off to other jobs or even back home. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
But Mykola stayed in the UK. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
And it was now Hector who was heading back | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
to the Ukraine in the hunt for his heirs. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
The first step after having done the research here in the UK | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
is to identify his baptismal record, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
and for that we needed our agent in the Ukraine to locate it. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Which their agent promptly did. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
And it came back to the UK with a sting in the tail for Hector. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
The deceased was born illegitimately, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
so, although we expected his name Lotocky or Lotosky to be | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
the name of his father, it's actually the name of his mother. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
His father was not listed on the birth certificate. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
With Mykola having been born out of wedlock, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
Hector's search for his heirs didn't look promising. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
In the UK, this means the heir hunters can only look into | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
the mother's side of the family. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
But the laws of the Ukraine are very different. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
Well, according to a very obscure point in Ukrainian law, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
it's called the article number 135, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
where a woman is not married, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
she must put down a masculine version of her maiden name | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
under the father's surname. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
And Lotocky was that masculine version | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
of his mother's maiden name, Lotocka. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
But that wasn't the end of it. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
According to article 135, an element of the father's first names | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
should also be included in the illegitimate child's name. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
In this case, Mykola's full name was Mykola Ilkovych Lotocky. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
And this inferred that there would be somebody | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
by the name of Ilko as his father. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Hector then discovered Mykola's mother had married | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
an Ilko Mykolaiovuch Kisil six years after his birth. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
For Hector, the father's first names were too similar to Mykola's | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
to be just a coincidence. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Using details on the marriage certificate, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
he furthered his research | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
and found three children born to Ilko and Paraskovia. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
At that point, we realised that at the very least, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
they are half-brothers and half-sisters of the deceased. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Hector had a lead and ran with it. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
He now got stuck into tracking the siblings down. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
In the early 20th century, Mykola and his family | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
lived in Western Ukraine, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
during an extremely turbulent time in the country's history. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
From the year he was born, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Mykola's homeland was a constantly changing entity. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
At the time of his birth, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
the land that he was born on was under Austro-Hungarian rule. | 0:21:53 | 0:22:00 | |
By the time he had reached the age of three, that land then became | 0:22:00 | 0:22:07 | |
part of Poland and was under Polish rule from 1918 to 1939. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:14 | |
Mykola and his family lived in the west of the country, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
but those living in the East came under the Soviet Union. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
During the emerging decades of the 20th century, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
they were victims of Stalin's brutal campaign to keep the Soviet Union | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
together by crushing the Ukrainian people's call for independence. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:37 | |
There were three man-made famines | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
inflicted on the Ukrainian people by Stalin, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
collectively called the Holodomor. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
The literal translation is death by hunger. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
And the worst one of the three was between 1932 to 1933. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Under this campaign, whole villages were ordered to give | 0:22:52 | 0:22:57 | |
all their food and crops away to the government. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
The people were then forcibly starved to death to hand over their | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
foodstuffs and there are various estimates on the number of people | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
that were killed in the Soviet Union during the 1920s, during the 1930s. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
It was quite literally in the millions. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
The Holodomor, now considered an act of genocide, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
is estimated to have starved to death more than 7.5 million people. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
It was an experience that would shake Mykola | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and his family's lives for ever. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
Later in the programme, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Mykola's life in the UK is a revelation to his surviving family. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
My husband saw him being shot in Hungary. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates that over | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
the years have baffled the heir hunters and still remain unclaimed. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
This is money that could have your name on it. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
and each could be worth anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
Today, we're focusing on three names from the list. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Could they be relatives of yours? | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Ellie Sexton Barling died in Edmonton, London, in April 2004. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
Her middle name of Sexton is usually a surname. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Is it possible it was her mother's maiden name? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Or did you know George Barry Pizzy, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
who died in 1999 in Middlesex? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
Pizzy is an extremely rare surname in the UK. Do you recognise it? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
Are you George's heir? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Or, finally, Gladys Frogley. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
She died in November 2001 in Kingston upon Thames. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Gladys was born in 1900, meaning she reached the age of 101. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
If no heirs are found to her estate, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
the money will go to the government. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
If the names Ellie Sexton Barling, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
George Barry Pizzy or Gladys Frogley mean anything to you, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
then you could have a windfall on its way. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Daisy Ellen Wingrove died in September 2008 aged 92. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
Leaving no will and no known relatives, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
her estate ended up on the Treasury's list. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
She spent her elderly years living in Chichester | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
with her late sister, Joan. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Her friend and neighbour, Sheila, got to know Daisy over the years. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
I like to think back when we used to sort of walk out in her garden, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
potter in her garden, you know, me there making sure she's all right | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
down the steps and when we would have something to laugh about. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
It was always nice to go up in the home. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Both Daisy and her sister Joan spent the final | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
few years of their lives in a nursing home. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Joan died a year before Daisy. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
You know, she thought the world of Joan. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
They had always been together, and now she was on her own. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
And she was absolutely devastated. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
have picked up Daisy's estate from the list. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Very early on, they knew her case had value from a house sale | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
and inheritance. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Wanting to beat competing companies to the long-lost relatives, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
Charles has thrown everything at the hunt. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
We've got 20-odd people in the office working on it. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
And throwing such resources at the case is paying off. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
They found early on that Daisy's three sisters had all died | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
leaving no children. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
And this meant looking for cousins and cousins once removed. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
The team has now accounted for all nine of the Wingrove family's | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
aunts and uncles. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
This has already led them to finding heirs on the father's side. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
The maternal line of Walters has proved trickier, but the team | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
has now confirmed all 12 aunts and uncles that may have produced heirs. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
Case manager David Pacifico has made an executive decision. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
He and Grimble will split the tree, but neither is keen to take | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
the maternal side with its 12 aunts and uncles. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Grimble and David come to an agreement. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
-Can you walk around there? -But it's an agreement that favours Grimble. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Look at this! Don't you think that's art? Look! Art! | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
He's ended up with the smaller paternal family. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
It's a family that has already produced heirs. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
And the travellers are already | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
out on the road on their way to meet them. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
Just about to go into the tunnel. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
In the office, David is coming to terms with the arrangement. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
In all fairness, he's volunteered to take the larger side of the family. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
At the moment, we don't have any heirs on that side, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
but I'm hoping we might do soon. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
And David doesn't have to wait long. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
Gareth's hard work is paying dividends. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
The maternal side, the Walters side, we have now got | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
an address of somebody that might have been entitled if his mother | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
is still alive, but there's still a lot of work to do on this side. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
But the team are doing it and pass David their latest leads. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
I'm going to go and make a couple of phone calls. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
It's a good sign when the case managers start heading upstairs. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
It means there's potential heirs to call and arrange meetings with. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
Maybe David stands a chance of catching up with Grimble after all. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
-Hello, Tone. -Hello, Dave. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Some in the office are having it easier than others, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
and partner, Neil, has arrived into work, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
glad his cousin Charles is having to finish this case off. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
It's been a frantic morning, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
with research happening all over the place. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
We've identified it's got value. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
I expect a lot of other people will be able to identify it's got value, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
so it's going to be a competitive case, so we want to be there first. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
And the travelling heir hunters are key to that happening. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
Bob Smith, Dave Hadley and Bob Barrett are all on their way | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
to meetings with heirs on the paternal line Grimble is working. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Things are falling into place nicely for a relaxed Grimble. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Speak to you later. Goodbye. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
David Pacifico is keen to discover how all of the hard work | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
he put in on Daisy's father's side of the tree | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
is paying off for Grimble. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
Are you finished all your work on the paternal side then? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Almost finished, David. We're not lagging behind. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
We're not trying to palm off any of our work | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
to anybody else in the company. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I volunteered to have that side of the case. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
I could've easily have said, look, Grimble, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
I've already spoken to people on the paternal side, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
it makes more sense for you to take the maternal side. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
-Did I say that? No, I didn't. -Oh, I can be cruel when I want! | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
And to add insult to David Pacifico's injury, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
Bob Barrett has made it to a paternal heir's house. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
Yvonne Collins is a cousin once removed whose grandmother Nelly | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
was Daisy's aunt. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
She was one of nine. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Yeah, we were trying to work out this the other day. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Bob goes through what he knows with Yvonne, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
and after the meeting, gives the cheerful Grimble a call. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
She's signed an agreement on her own behalf | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
and on behalf of her late brother. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
That's marvellous. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
-Good news. -OK, bye now. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Cheers, goodbye. Ah, Mr Bob Barrett has done it again! | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
Bob Barrett is on fire. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
As quickly as Grimble is contacting heirs, Bob is meeting up with them. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
-Hello, Mr Whittingham? -Yes. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
Robert Whittingham is another descendant of Daisy's aunt Nelly. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Whereabouts were you born? | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
-Grandmother Nelly or Ellen... -Yes. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
..was one of nine, we believe. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
And the paternal heirs keep coming. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
Traveller Bob Smith has just arrived at his meeting. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
Well, this is very nice. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
He's meeting Bob Bevan, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
a cousin once removed through Daisy's paternal aunt, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Rosa Wingrove. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
OK, what was your father's name? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Bob Smith gets down to business. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Bob Barrett has wrapped his up. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
The news comes as a big relief to Grimble. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
-He's signed an agreement with us. -Oh, good. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
I'm glad about that, because I can now run off and go for a wee wee. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
But he'd better not take too long, as downstairs, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
David Pacifico and Gareth are finally making some headway. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
We've got quite a few names to play with | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
and we've got a current address on two of those stems. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
David is fighting back. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
He puts his decades of experience to good use | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
and passes the addresses straight to his travellers. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
-It's time for Ewart Lindsay to get in on the action. -Thanks, yeah. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
Bye, bye. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
With Ewart hot-footing it to one Walters heir, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
David Pacifico has got Dave Hadley to go to another. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
Mrs Davy? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:42 | |
Barbara Davy is a cousin of Daisy's through her uncle Arthur Walters. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
Dave gets down to business. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Meanwhile, Ewart is just beginning his. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Hello, hi, how are you? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
-Goodbye. -Back with Dave Hadley, and he's a happy man. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
She signed the agreement, I'm pleased to say, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
so, it's a job well done, so it's on to the next one now. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Another agreement for David Pacifico's team. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
Ewart brings heir, Lynne Burling, up to speed on what they know. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Lynne is happy to sign an agreement with the company. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
She's an amateur genealogist | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
and this addition to her knowledge about her family tree is priceless. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
I'm hoping that they'll let me | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
have copies of all of the documents that they've taken, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
or gathered themselves, so that I can add to my records. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
It's just, I'm not even thinking about the money! Honestly! | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
It's just come out of the blue this! So it's just so exciting! | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
As exciting as the hot competition between the two case managers. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
Despite Dave Hadley meeting | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
and signing yet another heir on the maternal line, in the office, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
partner Neil knows which horse crossed the line first. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
It looks as though David Milchard has beaten David Pacifico | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
quite hands down today. He certainly had the agreements first. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
And the side of the family looks pretty well wrapped up, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
and until we get the certificates back, then, it's looking fairly good. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
Grimble had a family of nine to trace the heirs to, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
with a lot of work already done. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
And David Pacifico had to track the heirs from an un-researched | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
family of 12. And a family tree of about 12 foot. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
That'll teach you a lesson, trying to fob it off on me! | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Did I fob it off to you?! | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
I volunteered to have this side of the case! | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
In the end, the estate was worth a lot less than the initial estimate. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
But the team have shown they can handle such a large case. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
-Thank you very much, goodbye. -Take care, goodbye. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
I'm now looking forward to going home. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
None more so than an exhausted, but exhilarated David Pacifico. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
It may have been a day of head-to-head | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
competition with Grimble, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
but everything these guys do is for the greater good of the company. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
At the end of the day, you know, we're sort of the same team, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
and importantly, we have now come up with agreements, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
so we have ended the day even, I think. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
And partner Neil couldn't be happier with his team. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
We've worked it very, very hard. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
The reason we had to work it very, very hard | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
is because of the size of the family. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
The family is absolutely huge. Certainly a top-level line. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
That's whittled down to not as many heirs | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
as it possibly looked like first thing this morning. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
I think some of the guys were probably | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
saying 50 to 100 beneficiaries. We'll probably have 50, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
but I don't think we'll get near the 100 beneficiaries stage. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
But it's got value, it's been a good day. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
Mykola Lotocky died in Mansfield in Nottinghamshire | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
without leaving a will, and with no known relatives. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
According to his neighbour, Duncan Gillett, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
he led a very solitary life. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
I never got into deep conversation with him, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
but as far as I know, he kept himself to himself. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
Ukrainian born Mykola was 76 years old when he passed away in 1992. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:27 | |
And his £63,000 estate was advertised on the Treasury's list. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:33 | |
But because the heir hunt needed to go all the way back to the Ukraine, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
for years it proved too tough a nut to crack for the heir hunters. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
This is until Hector Birchwood from Celtic Research | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
took up the estate. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
This case just really needed an extra push in order to get it resolved. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
Despite Mykola being registered | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
as an illegitimate birth in the Ukraine, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
his mother went on to marry six years later | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
and have a further three children. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Hector couldn't be 100% certain but there was a chance | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
the father of these children, Ilko Kisil, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
was also the father of Mykola. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Well, once we had located the names of potential brothers and sisters, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
really, the next step was to see if they were still alive or not. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
And hopefully, then, they may be alive, and if they're not alive, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
then we looked for marriages and then look for potential children. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
Using a Ukrainian agent to help with his hunt, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Hector researched further into a brother and sister | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
who had stayed in the Ukraine. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
The team found the sister alive | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
and she was now an heir to Mykola's £63,000 estate. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
The brother had died but left two surviving children. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
These were Mykola's second and third heirs. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
But Hector's hunt was far from over. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
There was, however, also a third brother. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
And we didn't know where he was | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
because he no longer resided in the Ukraine. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Hector moved his research on and discovered his hunt | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
would now bring him back to the UK. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Using the recognisable surname of Kisil, he found his man. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
But there was a big shock in store. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
What we found was that his brother Teodor had settled | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
here in the United Kingdom in Leicester, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
only a few miles from where the deceased died in Mansfield. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
He married in the 1950s to Gratzia Cicatiello, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
and he died some nine years after the deceased, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
not knowing that, actually, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
his brother was only living a few miles apart. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
It was a mystery Hector could only wonder at, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
as according to the Ukrainian family, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
the brothers had always been close. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
They had even gone away to war together | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
to fight for the Germans against Stalin. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
They had seen their fellow countrymen | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
being starved to death in the millions by Stalin's Soviet regime. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:13 | |
So it's no wonder they may have been willing | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
to take up arms against the Red Army. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
After the war had ended, people who were conscripted by the Nazis | 0:39:19 | 0:39:24 | |
found themselves in Germany in displaced persons camps. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
They had the option of whether to go back home or to stay in the West. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
People that fought in German and Polish uniforms settled in this country | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
and Mykola and Teodor were obviously two people | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
that fitted that category. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
So, both brothers came to the UK unbeknown to each other. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
And, seemingly, never tried to make contact again. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Unfortunately, this tragic separation was all too common. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:59 | |
Mykola, like many Ukrainians, would not have contacted his family, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
simply because he feared for their lives. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
He knew that if he got in touch with his family, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
that the Soviets may view him as an enemy of the state | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
and that his family could suffer as a consequence. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
With this hanging over him, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
it's no wonder Mykola chose to live a solitary life in the UK. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
Never being able to discover what had happened to his brother | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
or family back in the Ukraine. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
It's a tragic life story | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
and especially sad for his surviving heir in the UK. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
An heir Hector was now contacting. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
He put in a call to Mykola's brother Teodor's wife | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
who would now also inherit. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
As Teodor had died after Mykola, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
he had what is known as a vested interest. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
This means his widow Gratzia is considered the next of kin. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
But Hector's news about Mykola's close whereabouts in the UK | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
wasn't her biggest shock. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
For me, it was really confusing. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
My husband saw him being shot in Hungary. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:14 | |
Teodor had spent his adult life | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
believing his older brother was dead. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
He'd been convinced he'd seen him shot | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
on the battlefield in Hungary in 1944. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
The whole family had been convinced of Mykola's death. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
Even erecting a headstone for him | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
above an empty grave back in the Ukraine. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
We went to a visit the grave | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
and I also made a photograph of some of them. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
You'd never think that he had survived, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
and it really was a big surprise for me. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
A sort of a mystery. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Mykola's decision to leave the past behind is understandable, | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
given the circumstances. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
But it's still a bitter blow for the surviving family, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
knowing he'd lived just 50 miles away for all of that time. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
For Gratzia, Mykola's lonely existence in the UK is a sad memory | 0:42:10 | 0:42:16 | |
and despite being an heir to his £63,000 estate, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
she knows what she and her late husband would rather have had. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
I would have loved to have known what sort of person he was. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
Instead of money. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
Mykola Lotocky's estate | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
will be divided up between the four heirs | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Hector Birchwood discovered from the Ukraine to the UK. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
But it's going to four people who would have preferred to have | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
known the whereabouts decades earlier of the long-lost Mykola. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
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