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Today, the heir hunters are chasing an estate with a potential value

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running into hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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Their job now is to beat the competing companies

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and be the first to find the long-lost relatives

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who have no idea they could be in line for a windfall.

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Could they be coming to your door?

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On today's programme -

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a family so large the office takes drastic action

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in the hunt for heirs.

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Don't you think that's art?

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The tragic story of a mysterious Ukrainian soldier

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whose death in the UK came as a massive shock to his heirs,

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who'd thought him dead a long time ago.

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My husband told me he was shot in Hungary.

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And how you could be entitled to unclaimed inheritance

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where heirs need to be found.

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Could you be in line for a cash payout?

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Every year in the UK, over 300,000 people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives are found,

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then any money that's left behind will go to the government.

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And last year they kept £14 million from unclaimed estates.

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But there are over 30 specialist firms

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competing to stop this happening. They're the heir hunters.

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And they make it their business to track down missing relatives

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and help them claim their rightful inheritance.

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It's all about finding the family and the money that is rightfully theirs.

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It's early Thursday morning in London,

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and overnight the Treasury has advertised a new list of names of unclaimed estates.

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One name in particular has caught the attention of the heir hunters,

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and they've already started their research.

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Do you know how to get this intranet to work?

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-Partner Charles and case manager David Pacifico...

-OK, bye-bye.

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..are some of the first in the office,

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and they let everyone know the state of play.

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-We'll work Wingrove.

-Yes.

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Wanting to get ahead of any other competing heir hunting companies,

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they've been hard at work for hours

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and have already conducted a lot of basic research.

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We're looking at the case of Daisy Wingrove, who died in 2008.

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She was a spinster, so she died without ever having been married.

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We've managed to work out where Daisy used to live.

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From there, we've obviously been able to find out when she was born

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and who her parents we think would have been.

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All this initial educated guesswork is essential

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if they want to get ahead of the competition.

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Especially if what Charles has discovered from the probate records proves correct.

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We've managed to identify that she did have two sisters,

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who have both died already.

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The last to die, died only about a year before her,

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leaving about £80,000 to the deceased.

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Yes, yes.

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So the heir hunters have evidence this early in the day

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that there could be good money in Daisy Ellen Wingrove's estate...

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-Did you know that?

-No.

-There you go.

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..and have already accounted for the majority of her close kin.

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Two of her sisters died leaving no children,

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but the third sister, Ivy, is an unknown quantity at this stage.

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It's a year out, but it could be the right court.

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If Daisy's sister, Ivy, is deceased,

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the team knows they'll be hunting her cousins.

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With tens of thousands of pounds potentially at stake,

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David Pacifico decides to draft in multiple travelling heir hunters.

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They will be his eyes and ears out on the road.

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Morning, Bob, David. Have you been asked to go anywhere this morning?

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Right. In that case, we want you to go to Richmond.

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Morning, Ewart.

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We need you to go to Royston on a case called Wingrove.

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OK, thank you.

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-Crawley.

-Crawley, right, OK.

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David has sent some of the travellers

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to collect vital paperwork from register offices

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to help with the hunt, and to head to areas of the country

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where the research suggests potential heirs may crop up.

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He can now get back to the important job

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of finding out what has become of the unaccounted for sister, Ivy.

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Daisy Ellen Wingrove died aged 92 in a nursing home in Chichester.

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She passed away back in 2008 and left no will and no known relatives.

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Despite spending the last few years of her life in a home,

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for most of her later years, she'd lived independently

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with her late sister, Joan.

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Their neighbour, Sheila Harrison, had known the sisters for decades

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but knew the deceased by a different name.

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She hated the name Daisy.

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She wouldn't even recognise the name Daisy.

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It wasn't till she went into the nursing home

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that I found out that she was called Daisy.

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Sheila had known Daisy by her middle name of Ellen.

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And over the years, as the sisters got older,

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she helped the pair out with shopping and general chores.

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It was help she didn't mind giving.

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Ellen, she was a real sweet person. She really was.

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She was an absolute sweetie and you couldn't help but like her.

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Daisy Ellen and her sister were private people.

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But over time, Sheila was told bits and pieces from their past.

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I knew there were four girls.

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I knew their mother died at a very early age.

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So I don't think it was easy for them.

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I didn't think they got any help from the family.

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They never saw any of the family any more after that.

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A family that the team's research is showing is a large one.

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Yeah, it's quite a big family.

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But their research could be in vain,

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as sister Ivy is still unaccounted for.

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And what worries David Pacifico is if they find Ivy dead,

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Gareth's work into the census records

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suggest there could be in excess of 20 aunts and uncles on this case.

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Thank goodness David made the decision to send four travellers

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out on the road.

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But first things first, they need to find out what happened to Ivy.

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-So there's no death of an Ivy Maddox.

-Not on our set list.

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It's all we've got. And that is just Ivy Maddox.

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Debbie has found a phone number for a potential daughter of Ivy's.

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It's very speculative, but this could be the phone call

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that decides which way this hunt is going to go -

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close kin or countless cousins.

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I just want to make sure we've got the right Ivy Wingrove.

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Thank you very much. Bye-bye.

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Wrong Ivy.

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But it proves irrelevant anyway.

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While David was on the phone, the team made a vital discovery

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and now know they have a huge hunt on their hands.

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We've managed to establish that Ivy probably was a sister

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and that she's died a spinster.

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The team brace themselves for the big hunt.

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All this and it's still only 7:50 AM.

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David and Gareth inspect the tree and debate their next move.

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-We need some information on that side.

-Yes.

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-I think we need the other census really, don't we?

-The 1911.

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-All of them.

-Yeah.

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Census records are a great tool,

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and Gareth knows they're going to need them today.

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If you've got a big family, they're having children for a long time.

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So we need to go further back.

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And the grandparents were born in 1846, 1847.

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They probably married young

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and started having children straightaway.

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The team that are in the office

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start to check the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses,

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to try and find every single aunt and uncle of Daisy's

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on both the paternal and maternal sides.

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They're coming thick and fast.

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-Yeah. Albert is...

-Born in Chichester.

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On the '11 census. He's single.

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The father had eight brothers and sisters.

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We're looking at all of those at the moment.

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Charles may be laughing but Gareth probably feels like crying.

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The family tree is more than one man can hold.

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It's still very early in the morning,

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and the rest of the company's researchers

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have arrived in the offices.

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Straightaway they're put to work,

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tackling the family trees Gareth and David have so far compiled.

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I'm working on the paternal side of the tree at the moment.

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I'm working on the maternal side.

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At the moment I'm looking at the maternal side.

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I'm working on the paternal side.

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Partner Charles has good reason to dedicate over 20 of his staff

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to just this one case.

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Through their research, the team have made a significant discovery.

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OK, bye.

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The fact that she sold her own house in 2007 for 200 grand...

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You know, there's going to be some money left over.

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The value of the house plus the money that was left to Daisy by her sister

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could potentially mean an estate worth hundreds of thousands.

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Oh, that's good.

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But if the team have found this out, so perhaps have the competition.

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Luckily, David has some promising leads.

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Potentially we've got a couple of cousins once removed

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on the paternal side of the family.

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It seems throwing manpower at this case is already bringing results.

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Plus the team's gamble on sending four travelling heir hunters out

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for this one estate has paid off.

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We've got Ewart going to one of the registry offices

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to try and obtain some birth certificates for us.

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-Bob Barrett to Richmond registry office.

-OK, Cheers then.

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Dave Hadley to go and see a possible heir.

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And Bob Smith, we've sent to Crawley to see a possible heir as well.

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The travelling heir hunters are some of the company's squadron of senior researchers

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who are willing to go wherever a case takes them

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in the hunt for heirs.

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Their goal is to retrieve vital certificates and research,

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and ultimately meet face-to-face with long lost relatives

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and hopefully get them to sign up with the company.

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I've been doing this job for about 17 years now.

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A long time. But I love it, I still love it.

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In the office, the team have made remarkable progress.

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Having thoroughly scoured decades of Census records,

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they are now certain all of the paternal line of aunts and uncles are accounted for.

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Daisy's father was one of 10, and his brothers and sisters

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are already leading the team to potential heirs.

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It's a fantastic result this early on in the day.

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But the maternal line is proving more troublesome.

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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

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-Got three children missing.

-No, it was there.

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Surprisingly, they've had 16 children,

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four of which have died and 12 are still living.

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On our tree we've only got nine children,

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so we're missing three children on the top line.

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Gareth again returns to the census records.

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This time the one from 1881,

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in a bid to track down the three missing aunts and uncles

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from Daisy's mother's line.

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Case manager David has mixed feelings about Gareth's hard work.

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What Gareth is doing, he's adding on several pages onto the maternal side.

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You are talking well over 20 aunts and uncles.

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But I'm hoping not everybody had children.

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Unfortunately, you don't always get what you wish for.

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The descendants of the Walters keep coming.

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I'm working on the stem of Agnes Mary Young.

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She seems to have had about six children.

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With a family tree beginning to resemble a forest,

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David Pacifico makes a suggestion.

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Shall we split it?

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I've already, well...

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The only thing is I've already spoken to people

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on the other side of the family.

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It's now 9am, and senior case manager David Milchard,

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known in the office as Grimble, has joined the fray.

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But he's not keen on straight away

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being lumped with the maternal line of Walters.

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It's something he and David will have to discuss further.

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We said he's got to be born after '11.

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Trying to palm me off with 16 stems!

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Later in the programme, two senior case managers

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go head-to-head in the hunt for Daisy's heirs.

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We're not lagging behind. Oh, I can be cruel when I want!

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Every Thursday morning, the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates

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is advertised to the heir hunting companies,

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and they scramble to be the first to find the beneficiaries to an estate.

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But despite the initial rush, some cases baffle the researchers

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and sit unclaimed for years.

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Mykola Lotocky died aged 76 in January 1992.

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He passed away in Mansfield, leaving no will

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and no known relatives to inherit his £63,000 estate.

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Mykola was Ukrainian by birth, and according to neighbour,

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Duncan Gillett, he was a friendly but private man,

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who he knew by a different name.

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Nicholas was his name, Nicky. He couldn't speak very good English.

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And of course, every time you used to see him, well,

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and he would go, oh, oh... You know, that business.

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And I never got into deep conversation with him,

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but as far as I know, you know, he kept himself to himself.

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Mykola's language barrier may have caused his private nature,

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but he was one of many Ukrainians

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who settled in the area after the Second World War.

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Majority of them that were around here, as we know around here,

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are decent, hard-working chaps and they were a credit to the community.

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Mykola Lotocky passed away in a community that respected him,

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but didn't really know him.

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And his private lifestyle meant people were at a loss

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to find his relatives after his death.

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His £63,000 estate was advertised on the Treasury's list,

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but sat there for years.

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His Ukrainian roots made it an extremely complex case

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for the heir hunters to solve.

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That's until Hector Birchwood from Celtic research got involved.

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We have a very good agent in the Ukraine and I felt that this

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case just really needed an extra push in order to get it resolved.

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And Hector's first push

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was to look at the details on Mykola's death certificate.

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The best starting point for any heir hunt.

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Well, once we had his death, we knew his age and

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so we started to look for marriages by the time he ought to be marrying.

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And we weren't able to find anything for him.

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So, we also looked at births

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that could potentially be illegitimate births.

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He doesn't have to marry to have children. But we couldn't find any.

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So, according to the records, Mykola had led the life of a bachelor.

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Well, all we knew from his death certificate was that the

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deceased was a coal miner.

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After the Second World War, Britain was suffering a labour shortage

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and there was work for immigrants like Mykola in heavy industry.

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And in his case, down the coal mines.

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It would been hard graft, working up to 1,000 feet underground.

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Dr Ivor Brown, a coalmining expert,

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can recall his own days down the pit.

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They would have been very similar to Mykola's.

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We had to get down the pit in our own time, that is, if you were due

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to start at 7:00, if you weren't there at 7:00, no work for you.

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When you got down the pit, you then had to walk to your

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place of work, which could be three quarters of an hour journey away.

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It was a tough job, but the pay could be very good.

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And the migrant work ethic impressed the locals.

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The Eastern European's were excellent workers.

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They often learnt English very quickly.

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And they were generally well accepted.

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They didn't always stay long.

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They did often five, 10 years, and then,

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they moved off to other jobs or even back home.

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But Mykola stayed in the UK.

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And it was now Hector who was heading back

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to the Ukraine in the hunt for his heirs.

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The first step after having done the research here in the UK

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is to identify his baptismal record,

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and for that we needed our agent in the Ukraine to locate it.

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Which their agent promptly did.

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And it came back to the UK with a sting in the tail for Hector.

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The deceased was born illegitimately,

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so, although we expected his name Lotocky or Lotosky to be

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the name of his father, it's actually the name of his mother.

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His father was not listed on the birth certificate.

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With Mykola having been born out of wedlock,

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Hector's search for his heirs didn't look promising.

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In the UK, this means the heir hunters can only look into

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the mother's side of the family.

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But the laws of the Ukraine are very different.

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Well, according to a very obscure point in Ukrainian law,

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it's called the article number 135,

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where a woman is not married,

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she must put down a masculine version of her maiden name

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under the father's surname.

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And Lotocky was that masculine version

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of his mother's maiden name, Lotocka.

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But that wasn't the end of it.

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According to article 135, an element of the father's first names

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should also be included in the illegitimate child's name.

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In this case, Mykola's full name was Mykola Ilkovych Lotocky.

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And this inferred that there would be somebody

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by the name of Ilko as his father.

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Hector then discovered Mykola's mother had married

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an Ilko Mykolaiovuch Kisil six years after his birth.

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For Hector, the father's first names were too similar to Mykola's

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to be just a coincidence.

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Using details on the marriage certificate,

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he furthered his research

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and found three children born to Ilko and Paraskovia.

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At that point, we realised that at the very least,

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they are half-brothers and half-sisters of the deceased.

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Hector had a lead and ran with it.

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He now got stuck into tracking the siblings down.

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In the early 20th century, Mykola and his family

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lived in Western Ukraine,

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during an extremely turbulent time in the country's history.

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From the year he was born,

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Mykola's homeland was a constantly changing entity.

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At the time of his birth,

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the land that he was born on was under Austro-Hungarian rule.

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By the time he had reached the age of three, that land then became

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part of Poland and was under Polish rule from 1918 to 1939.

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Mykola and his family lived in the west of the country,

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but those living in the East came under the Soviet Union.

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During the emerging decades of the 20th century,

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they were victims of Stalin's brutal campaign to keep the Soviet Union

0:22:270:22:31

together by crushing the Ukrainian people's call for independence.

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There were three man-made famines

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inflicted on the Ukrainian people by Stalin,

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collectively called the Holodomor.

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The literal translation is death by hunger.

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And the worst one of the three was between 1932 to 1933.

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Under this campaign, whole villages were ordered to give

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all their food and crops away to the government.

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The people were then forcibly starved to death to hand over their

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foodstuffs and there are various estimates on the number of people

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that were killed in the Soviet Union during the 1920s, during the 1930s.

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It was quite literally in the millions.

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The Holodomor, now considered an act of genocide,

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is estimated to have starved to death more than 7.5 million people.

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It was an experience that would shake Mykola

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and his family's lives for ever.

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Later in the programme,

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Mykola's life in the UK is a revelation to his surviving family.

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My husband saw him being shot in Hungary.

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Could you be in line for an unexpected windfall?

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In the UK, the Treasury has a list of over 2,000 estates that over

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the years have baffled the heir hunters and still remain unclaimed.

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This is money that could have your name on it.

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These estates can stay on the list for up to 30 years

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and each could be worth anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds.

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Today, we're focusing on three names from the list.

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Could they be relatives of yours?

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Ellie Sexton Barling died in Edmonton, London, in April 2004.

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Her middle name of Sexton is usually a surname.

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Is it possible it was her mother's maiden name?

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Or did you know George Barry Pizzy,

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who died in 1999 in Middlesex?

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Pizzy is an extremely rare surname in the UK. Do you recognise it?

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Are you George's heir?

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Or, finally, Gladys Frogley.

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She died in November 2001 in Kingston upon Thames.

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Gladys was born in 1900, meaning she reached the age of 101.

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If no heirs are found to her estate,

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the money will go to the government.

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If the names Ellie Sexton Barling,

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George Barry Pizzy or Gladys Frogley mean anything to you,

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then you could have a windfall on its way.

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Daisy Ellen Wingrove died in September 2008 aged 92.

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Leaving no will and no known relatives,

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her estate ended up on the Treasury's list.

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She spent her elderly years living in Chichester

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with her late sister, Joan.

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Her friend and neighbour, Sheila, got to know Daisy over the years.

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I like to think back when we used to sort of walk out in her garden,

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potter in her garden, you know, me there making sure she's all right

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down the steps and when we would have something to laugh about.

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It was always nice to go up in the home.

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Both Daisy and her sister Joan spent the final

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few years of their lives in a nursing home.

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Joan died a year before Daisy.

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You know, she thought the world of Joan.

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They had always been together, and now she was on her own.

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And she was absolutely devastated.

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Heir-hunting company Fraser & Fraser

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have picked up Daisy's estate from the list.

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Very early on, they knew her case had value from a house sale

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and inheritance.

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Wanting to beat competing companies to the long-lost relatives,

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Charles has thrown everything at the hunt.

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We've got 20-odd people in the office working on it.

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And throwing such resources at the case is paying off.

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They found early on that Daisy's three sisters had all died

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leaving no children.

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And this meant looking for cousins and cousins once removed.

0:27:070:27:12

The team has now accounted for all nine of the Wingrove family's

0:27:120:27:15

aunts and uncles.

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This has already led them to finding heirs on the father's side.

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The maternal line of Walters has proved trickier, but the team

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has now confirmed all 12 aunts and uncles that may have produced heirs.

0:27:250:27:29

Case manager David Pacifico has made an executive decision.

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He and Grimble will split the tree, but neither is keen to take

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the maternal side with its 12 aunts and uncles.

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Grimble and David come to an agreement.

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-Can you walk around there?

-But it's an agreement that favours Grimble.

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Look at this! Don't you think that's art? Look! Art!

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He's ended up with the smaller paternal family.

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It's a family that has already produced heirs.

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And the travellers are already

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out on the road on their way to meet them.

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Just about to go into the tunnel.

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In the office, David is coming to terms with the arrangement.

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In all fairness, he's volunteered to take the larger side of the family.

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At the moment, we don't have any heirs on that side,

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but I'm hoping we might do soon.

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And David doesn't have to wait long.

0:28:280:28:32

Gareth's hard work is paying dividends.

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The maternal side, the Walters side, we have now got

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an address of somebody that might have been entitled if his mother

0:28:400:28:43

is still alive, but there's still a lot of work to do on this side.

0:28:430:28:47

But the team are doing it and pass David their latest leads.

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I'm going to go and make a couple of phone calls.

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It's a good sign when the case managers start heading upstairs.

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It means there's potential heirs to call and arrange meetings with.

0:29:000:29:04

Maybe David stands a chance of catching up with Grimble after all.

0:29:040:29:08

-Hello, Tone.

-Hello, Dave.

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Some in the office are having it easier than others,

0:29:130:29:16

and partner, Neil, has arrived into work,

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glad his cousin Charles is having to finish this case off.

0:29:180:29:23

It's been a frantic morning,

0:29:230:29:25

with research happening all over the place.

0:29:250:29:29

We've identified it's got value.

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I expect a lot of other people will be able to identify it's got value,

0:29:310:29:34

so it's going to be a competitive case, so we want to be there first.

0:29:340:29:38

And the travelling heir hunters are key to that happening.

0:29:390:29:43

Bob Smith, Dave Hadley and Bob Barrett are all on their way

0:29:430:29:47

to meetings with heirs on the paternal line Grimble is working.

0:29:470:29:50

Things are falling into place nicely for a relaxed Grimble.

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Speak to you later. Goodbye.

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David Pacifico is keen to discover how all of the hard work

0:30:000:30:03

he put in on Daisy's father's side of the tree

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is paying off for Grimble.

0:30:060:30:07

Are you finished all your work on the paternal side then?

0:30:070:30:11

Almost finished, David. We're not lagging behind.

0:30:110:30:14

We're not trying to palm off any of our work

0:30:140:30:16

to anybody else in the company.

0:30:160:30:18

I volunteered to have that side of the case.

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I could've easily have said, look, Grimble,

0:30:200:30:22

I've already spoken to people on the paternal side,

0:30:220:30:25

it makes more sense for you to take the maternal side.

0:30:250:30:28

-Did I say that? No, I didn't.

-Oh, I can be cruel when I want!

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And to add insult to David Pacifico's injury,

0:30:320:30:35

Bob Barrett has made it to a paternal heir's house.

0:30:350:30:39

Yvonne Collins is a cousin once removed whose grandmother Nelly

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was Daisy's aunt.

0:30:430:30:45

She was one of nine.

0:30:450:30:47

Yeah, we were trying to work out this the other day.

0:30:470:30:50

Bob goes through what he knows with Yvonne,

0:30:500:30:54

and after the meeting, gives the cheerful Grimble a call.

0:30:540:30:57

She's signed an agreement on her own behalf

0:30:570:31:00

and on behalf of her late brother.

0:31:000:31:02

That's marvellous.

0:31:020:31:04

-Good news.

-OK, bye now.

0:31:040:31:07

Cheers, goodbye. Ah, Mr Bob Barrett has done it again!

0:31:070:31:11

Bob Barrett is on fire.

0:31:110:31:14

As quickly as Grimble is contacting heirs, Bob is meeting up with them.

0:31:140:31:18

-Hello, Mr Whittingham?

-Yes.

0:31:180:31:21

Robert Whittingham is another descendant of Daisy's aunt Nelly.

0:31:210:31:24

Whereabouts were you born?

0:31:240:31:26

-Grandmother Nelly or Ellen...

-Yes.

0:31:260:31:29

..was one of nine, we believe.

0:31:290:31:33

And the paternal heirs keep coming.

0:31:330:31:36

Traveller Bob Smith has just arrived at his meeting.

0:31:360:31:39

Well, this is very nice.

0:31:390:31:41

He's meeting Bob Bevan,

0:31:410:31:43

a cousin once removed through Daisy's paternal aunt,

0:31:430:31:46

Rosa Wingrove.

0:31:460:31:48

OK, what was your father's name?

0:31:480:31:50

Bob Smith gets down to business.

0:31:500:31:53

Bob Barrett has wrapped his up.

0:31:530:31:54

The news comes as a big relief to Grimble.

0:31:540:31:58

-He's signed an agreement with us.

-Oh, good.

0:31:580:32:00

I'm glad about that, because I can now run off and go for a wee wee.

0:32:000:32:04

But he'd better not take too long, as downstairs,

0:32:040:32:07

David Pacifico and Gareth are finally making some headway.

0:32:070:32:11

We've got quite a few names to play with

0:32:110:32:14

and we've got a current address on two of those stems.

0:32:140:32:18

David is fighting back.

0:32:180:32:21

He puts his decades of experience to good use

0:32:210:32:24

and passes the addresses straight to his travellers.

0:32:240:32:28

-It's time for Ewart Lindsay to get in on the action.

-Thanks, yeah.

0:32:280:32:32

Bye, bye.

0:32:320:32:34

With Ewart hot-footing it to one Walters heir,

0:32:340:32:37

David Pacifico has got Dave Hadley to go to another.

0:32:370:32:41

Mrs Davy?

0:32:410:32:42

Barbara Davy is a cousin of Daisy's through her uncle Arthur Walters.

0:32:420:32:47

Dave gets down to business.

0:32:470:32:49

Meanwhile, Ewart is just beginning his.

0:32:490:32:52

Hello, hi, how are you?

0:32:540:32:56

-Goodbye.

-Back with Dave Hadley, and he's a happy man.

0:32:560:33:00

She signed the agreement, I'm pleased to say,

0:33:000:33:03

so, it's a job well done, so it's on to the next one now.

0:33:030:33:06

Another agreement for David Pacifico's team.

0:33:060:33:10

Ewart brings heir, Lynne Burling, up to speed on what they know.

0:33:100:33:13

Lynne is happy to sign an agreement with the company.

0:33:130:33:17

She's an amateur genealogist

0:33:170:33:19

and this addition to her knowledge about her family tree is priceless.

0:33:190:33:23

I'm hoping that they'll let me

0:33:260:33:27

have copies of all of the documents that they've taken,

0:33:270:33:30

or gathered themselves, so that I can add to my records.

0:33:300:33:33

It's just, I'm not even thinking about the money! Honestly!

0:33:330:33:37

It's just come out of the blue this! So it's just so exciting!

0:33:370:33:41

As exciting as the hot competition between the two case managers.

0:33:410:33:47

Despite Dave Hadley meeting

0:33:480:33:50

and signing yet another heir on the maternal line, in the office,

0:33:500:33:53

partner Neil knows which horse crossed the line first.

0:33:530:33:58

It looks as though David Milchard has beaten David Pacifico

0:33:580:34:02

quite hands down today. He certainly had the agreements first.

0:34:020:34:06

And the side of the family looks pretty well wrapped up,

0:34:080:34:12

and until we get the certificates back, then, it's looking fairly good.

0:34:120:34:18

Grimble had a family of nine to trace the heirs to,

0:34:180:34:22

with a lot of work already done.

0:34:220:34:25

And David Pacifico had to track the heirs from an un-researched

0:34:250:34:28

family of 12. And a family tree of about 12 foot.

0:34:280:34:34

That'll teach you a lesson, trying to fob it off on me!

0:34:350:34:37

Did I fob it off to you?!

0:34:370:34:40

I volunteered to have this side of the case!

0:34:400:34:42

In the end, the estate was worth a lot less than the initial estimate.

0:34:420:34:47

But the team have shown they can handle such a large case.

0:34:470:34:52

-Thank you very much, goodbye.

-Take care, goodbye.

0:34:520:34:56

I'm now looking forward to going home.

0:34:560:34:58

None more so than an exhausted, but exhilarated David Pacifico.

0:34:580:35:03

It may have been a day of head-to-head

0:35:030:35:06

competition with Grimble,

0:35:060:35:08

but everything these guys do is for the greater good of the company.

0:35:080:35:12

At the end of the day, you know, we're sort of the same team,

0:35:120:35:16

and importantly, we have now come up with agreements,

0:35:160:35:20

so we have ended the day even, I think.

0:35:200:35:22

And partner Neil couldn't be happier with his team.

0:35:220:35:26

We've worked it very, very hard.

0:35:260:35:28

The reason we had to work it very, very hard

0:35:280:35:30

is because of the size of the family.

0:35:300:35:32

The family is absolutely huge. Certainly a top-level line.

0:35:320:35:37

That's whittled down to not as many heirs

0:35:370:35:40

as it possibly looked like first thing this morning.

0:35:400:35:43

I think some of the guys were probably

0:35:430:35:46

saying 50 to 100 beneficiaries. We'll probably have 50,

0:35:460:35:49

but I don't think we'll get near the 100 beneficiaries stage.

0:35:490:35:52

But it's got value, it's been a good day.

0:35:520:35:54

Mykola Lotocky died in Mansfield in Nottinghamshire

0:36:010:36:04

without leaving a will, and with no known relatives.

0:36:040:36:07

According to his neighbour, Duncan Gillett,

0:36:070:36:10

he led a very solitary life.

0:36:100:36:13

I never got into deep conversation with him,

0:36:130:36:16

but as far as I know, he kept himself to himself.

0:36:160:36:20

Ukrainian born Mykola was 76 years old when he passed away in 1992.

0:36:200:36:27

And his £63,000 estate was advertised on the Treasury's list.

0:36:270:36:33

But because the heir hunt needed to go all the way back to the Ukraine,

0:36:330:36:36

for years it proved too tough a nut to crack for the heir hunters.

0:36:360:36:40

This is until Hector Birchwood from Celtic Research

0:36:400:36:44

took up the estate.

0:36:440:36:46

This case just really needed an extra push in order to get it resolved.

0:36:460:36:50

Despite Mykola being registered

0:36:500:36:52

as an illegitimate birth in the Ukraine,

0:36:520:36:55

his mother went on to marry six years later

0:36:550:36:58

and have a further three children.

0:36:580:37:01

Hector couldn't be 100% certain but there was a chance

0:37:010:37:04

the father of these children, Ilko Kisil,

0:37:040:37:07

was also the father of Mykola.

0:37:070:37:09

Well, once we had located the names of potential brothers and sisters,

0:37:120:37:17

really, the next step was to see if they were still alive or not.

0:37:170:37:22

And hopefully, then, they may be alive, and if they're not alive,

0:37:220:37:25

then we looked for marriages and then look for potential children.

0:37:250:37:29

Using a Ukrainian agent to help with his hunt,

0:37:290:37:32

Hector researched further into a brother and sister

0:37:320:37:35

who had stayed in the Ukraine.

0:37:350:37:39

The team found the sister alive

0:37:390:37:41

and she was now an heir to Mykola's £63,000 estate.

0:37:410:37:46

The brother had died but left two surviving children.

0:37:460:37:50

These were Mykola's second and third heirs.

0:37:500:37:53

But Hector's hunt was far from over.

0:37:530:37:57

There was, however, also a third brother.

0:37:570:38:00

And we didn't know where he was

0:38:000:38:03

because he no longer resided in the Ukraine.

0:38:030:38:06

Hector moved his research on and discovered his hunt

0:38:060:38:11

would now bring him back to the UK.

0:38:110:38:13

Using the recognisable surname of Kisil, he found his man.

0:38:130:38:18

But there was a big shock in store.

0:38:180:38:20

What we found was that his brother Teodor had settled

0:38:210:38:25

here in the United Kingdom in Leicester,

0:38:250:38:27

only a few miles from where the deceased died in Mansfield.

0:38:270:38:30

He married in the 1950s to Gratzia Cicatiello,

0:38:320:38:36

and he died some nine years after the deceased,

0:38:360:38:39

not knowing that, actually,

0:38:390:38:41

his brother was only living a few miles apart.

0:38:410:38:45

It was a mystery Hector could only wonder at,

0:38:450:38:49

as according to the Ukrainian family,

0:38:490:38:53

the brothers had always been close.

0:38:530:38:55

They had even gone away to war together

0:38:550:38:58

to fight for the Germans against Stalin.

0:38:580:39:00

They had seen their fellow countrymen

0:39:050:39:07

being starved to death in the millions by Stalin's Soviet regime.

0:39:070:39:13

So it's no wonder they may have been willing

0:39:130:39:17

to take up arms against the Red Army.

0:39:170:39:19

After the war had ended, people who were conscripted by the Nazis

0:39:190:39:24

found themselves in Germany in displaced persons camps.

0:39:240:39:29

They had the option of whether to go back home or to stay in the West.

0:39:300:39:35

People that fought in German and Polish uniforms settled in this country

0:39:350:39:40

and Mykola and Teodor were obviously two people

0:39:400:39:43

that fitted that category.

0:39:430:39:45

So, both brothers came to the UK unbeknown to each other.

0:39:450:39:49

And, seemingly, never tried to make contact again.

0:39:490:39:53

Unfortunately, this tragic separation was all too common.

0:39:530:39:59

Mykola, like many Ukrainians, would not have contacted his family,

0:39:590:40:03

simply because he feared for their lives.

0:40:030:40:06

He knew that if he got in touch with his family,

0:40:060:40:10

that the Soviets may view him as an enemy of the state

0:40:100:40:14

and that his family could suffer as a consequence.

0:40:140:40:17

With this hanging over him,

0:40:190:40:21

it's no wonder Mykola chose to live a solitary life in the UK.

0:40:210:40:25

Never being able to discover what had happened to his brother

0:40:250:40:29

or family back in the Ukraine.

0:40:290:40:31

It's a tragic life story

0:40:310:40:34

and especially sad for his surviving heir in the UK.

0:40:340:40:38

An heir Hector was now contacting.

0:40:380:40:41

He put in a call to Mykola's brother Teodor's wife

0:40:410:40:44

who would now also inherit.

0:40:440:40:48

As Teodor had died after Mykola,

0:40:480:40:51

he had what is known as a vested interest.

0:40:510:40:54

This means his widow Gratzia is considered the next of kin.

0:40:540:40:58

But Hector's news about Mykola's close whereabouts in the UK

0:40:580:41:02

wasn't her biggest shock.

0:41:020:41:04

For me, it was really confusing.

0:41:050:41:08

My husband saw him being shot in Hungary.

0:41:080:41:14

Teodor had spent his adult life

0:41:160:41:18

believing his older brother was dead.

0:41:180:41:21

He'd been convinced he'd seen him shot

0:41:210:41:23

on the battlefield in Hungary in 1944.

0:41:230:41:27

The whole family had been convinced of Mykola's death.

0:41:270:41:31

Even erecting a headstone for him

0:41:310:41:33

above an empty grave back in the Ukraine.

0:41:330:41:37

We went to a visit the grave

0:41:370:41:40

and I also made a photograph of some of them.

0:41:400:41:44

You'd never think that he had survived,

0:41:440:41:48

and it really was a big surprise for me.

0:41:480:41:51

A sort of a mystery.

0:41:510:41:53

Mykola's decision to leave the past behind is understandable,

0:41:580:42:01

given the circumstances.

0:42:010:42:04

But it's still a bitter blow for the surviving family,

0:42:040:42:06

knowing he'd lived just 50 miles away for all of that time.

0:42:060:42:10

For Gratzia, Mykola's lonely existence in the UK is a sad memory

0:42:100:42:16

and despite being an heir to his £63,000 estate,

0:42:160:42:21

she knows what she and her late husband would rather have had.

0:42:210:42:25

I would have loved to have known what sort of person he was.

0:42:250:42:29

Instead of money.

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Mykola Lotocky's estate

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will be divided up between the four heirs

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Hector Birchwood discovered from the Ukraine to the UK.

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But it's going to four people who would have preferred to have

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known the whereabouts decades earlier of the long-lost Mykola.

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