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Heir hunters specialise in tracking down people who are entitled to money from someone who has died. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
If we don't do the work to inform them, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
it's money which is going to go to the Government. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to relatives who had no idea | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
-they were in line to inherit. -If you get nothing, then we get nothing. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
Their work involves painstaking investigation. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
What the hell is going on here? | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
But it can rekindle long forgotten family memories. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
He was a gentle, kind young man. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
But most of all, the work is giving people news of an unexpected windfall. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
I was absolutely gobsmacked. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door? | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
Coming up - the heir hunters grapple with the mammoth case of a man | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
who died over a century ago. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
It's gone on to four, effectively five, pages now. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
The mysterious case of a popular vicar who drifted | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
apart from his relatives. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
I find it rather strange that a public figure like a reverend | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
would die without contact with his family | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and also without having made a will. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
held by the Treasury. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Could a fortune be heading your way? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
It's a Tuesday morning | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
and the team at heir hunting firm Celtic Research, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
run by father and son team Peter and Hector Birchwood, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
are getting stuck into a very unusual case. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Eventually, we'll have something to give to the heirs. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Case manager Saul Marks, who runs the firm's north west office, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
has travelled 150 miles from his base in Liverpool to | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
the Northamptonshire Records Office, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
where he hopes to unearth some vital information on a 113-year-old case. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
-I'm here to look at some records for the village of Staverton. -Come through, Mr Marks. -Thank you. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
Saul is on the hunt for relatives of a man called William Hall, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
who died in 1899. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Right, I'm after some parish records for Staverton. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
-OK. -Erm, marriages for the 1800s, 1810s. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
-OK. -Up to about 1815. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
And then baptisms probably from about 1770 to about 1890...1790, sorry. OK. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
Because this case is so old, Saul has to trawl through | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
yards of microfiche records to get the information he needs. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
It looks like he could have a long day ahead of him. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
I'm currently in about 1794, so we need to move on a bit from that. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
Most of the heir hunters' work comes from the Treasury's | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
bona vacantia list of unclaimed states. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
But this job was different from the start. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
The firm took on this case after being contacted by a woman | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
called Valerie Foley, who had spent several years trying to prove | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
that her family was entitled to inherit from William Hall's estate. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
She started her research after the death of her great-aunt Sisi. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
Sisi had left a large tin trunk, erm... | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
with lots and lots of family documents, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
amongst which was the start of the research | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
to the link with William Hall. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
Born in 1824, William Hall was a wealthy farmer | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
from the village of Staverton in Northamptonshire. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
He inherited the farm from his father | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
and the Hall farm was really quite substantial. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
At various times, he had bought up parcels of land | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
and property in the surrounding area and when he actually died, his estate | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
consisted of a number of properties and a large amount of farmland. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
On 9th April 1899, 74-year-old William died a mysterious death. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:52 | |
The cause of death was listed as "found drowned in a pool". | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
Erm, we were actually able to look up some newspaper reports | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
from the time about this. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
He was found on a Sunday morning and he'd been out walking on his estate | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
late on a Saturday night | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
and that was the last time he'd been seen alive. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
In contrast to most of the cases that Saul's company deals with, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
the deceased in this case did leave a will. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
William Hall made a number of bequests in his will. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Once he'd completed making those bequests, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
he divided the residue of his estate into six equal portions. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
Each of those portions was bequeathed to the children of each | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
of his six aunts and uncles who had all already predeceased him. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
But at least one portion, that belonging to | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
the descendants of William's uncle Thomas, has never been claimed. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
And it's this Thomas Hall that Valerie Foley's great-aunt Sisi | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
had been trying to prove she was related to. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
There were lots of Thomas Halls in the family. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Her own father was Thomas, her grandfather was Thomas | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
and her great-great-grandfather was Thomas Hall. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
So I thought, "Let's have a see if we can find who Thomas Hall was." | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Was he indeed the man mentioned in William Hall's will? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
In 1899, the value of Thomas Hall's share was just over £381. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:23 | |
That's about £36,000 in today's money. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
A substantial windfall for Valerie and her family, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
if she could trace her bloodline back to Thomas Hall. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
But after several years of trying, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
she drew a blank and decided to call in the experts. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
I initially got in touch with Saul, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
because I think I'd got as far as I could physically go with the research | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
on William and the link to - maybe, maybe not - one of my Uncle Thomases. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
I was limited in lots of angles of my research, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:55 | |
records too early for me to find. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
So that was the reason I made the choice to say to somebody, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
"Could you verify what I'd got already?" | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
In Saul's hands, the case took an unexpected turn. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
During my research, I was able to prove, beyond any question, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
that Mrs Foley's family, sadly, weren't related to the deceased. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Although it was the same surname, Mrs Foley's ancestors, her Halls | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
and her Thomas Hall, came from the Edmonton area of north London | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and the deceased's family were very deeply rooted | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
in the village of Staverton, going back many, many generations. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
So, sadly, I had to explain to Mrs Foley that after all her work | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
and her ancestors' work that she wouldn't be entitled to inherit. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Far from being disappointed, Valerie was delighted that someone, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
somewhere, might be in line for a windfall. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Thank goodness someone else has taken it on. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
To be very honest, I was quite relieved. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
I was battling something which I was never going to be able to achieve, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
but then Saul can hopefully find the right people | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
and it would be such fun. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
With a £36,000 estate still unclaimed, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
it could be a job worth doing for Saul and the firm, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
who work on commission for a percentage of the estate's value. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
But finding the descendants of a man who died more than 100 years ago | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
is no mean feat. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
And if the family turns out to be large, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Saul could have a lot of hard work in store. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Today, he's come to the Northamptonshire Records Office | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
to try to find out more about William Hall and his family. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Some of those are missing but that shouldn't, hopefully, be a problem. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Right, OK. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
From the information provided by Valerie, Saul has drawn up | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
a rudimentary family tree showing William Hall's paternal grandparents | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
and some of his uncles and aunts. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
But in order to prove his findings are correct, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
he has to study parish records dating back more than 200 years. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
The first part is to try and find the births of all these aunts and uncles, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
which will be, hopefully, anywhere from about 1775 to about 1795. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:08 | |
It's an arduous task, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:11 | |
as the records are all handwritten they can be difficult to decipher. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
What looks like Tamoulane Gulliman, there's the G, you see, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
son of Thomas and Sarah Bulliman. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Hours later, Saul manages to find baptism records | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
for all of William Hall's uncles and aunts | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
and the marriage listing for their parents Samuel and Elizabeth Hall | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
reveals some interesting information. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
I thought I'd have a quick look back and see | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
if I could find the marriage listing for Samuel and Elizabeth Hall, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
that's the deceased's grandparents, and here I've got it. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Erm, and they married in 1778 | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
and their first child was conceived before the marriage, as well. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:57 | |
These people, like one or two of the others we've come across, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
were married by licence, not by banns. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
It cost money to be married by licence, so it could suggest that | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
they were, perhaps, slightly better off than some of their neighbours. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
Alternatively, getting married by licence was a much quicker way | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
of doing it than being married by banns and, as such, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
you might want to get married quickly | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
if you were about to have a baby, like this couple were. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Saul has discovered that William Hall's grandparents | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
had 14 children in total, 12 of whom survived into adulthood. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
Six of them went on to have families of their own | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and it's their descendants that would be in line | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
to inherit William's fortune. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
With this new information, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Saul is able to update William's family tree. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
There's no doubt about it, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
that coming to see the original records is | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
so much more informative than doing them from transcripts online. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Obviously, it's a long trek from our Liverpool office, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
but it's definitely been very worthwhile today, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
I've really been able to confirm what I had thought | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
about the make-up of this family and the construction of this family | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and we can now move forward and see if we can contact the heirs. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Satisfied with his progress, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Saul heads back to Liverpool to continue his search for heirs. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
But this already complex case is about to get even more tricky. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
When we're dealing with a case where someone has died so long ago, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
there are so many people who have died with a vested interest, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
so instead of stepping from generation to generation, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
we're stepping from will to will. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Heir hunters' work can come from a variety of sources. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
Each week, the Treasury publishes a list of unclaimed estates. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
But sometimes, cases are referred by solicitors | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
or friends of the deceased. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
That's what happened when a reverend called Edward Morris died in 2011. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
His case was passed on to the team at the country's biggest firm | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
of heir hunters, Fraser & Fraser. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Case manager Bob Smith was in charge. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
We were contacted by solicitors, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
a friend of the deceased had walked into their offices, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
explained that he'd died, that they couldn't trace a will | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and they had no knowledge of any family. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
The job immediately struck Bob as an unusual one. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
I find it rather strange that a public figure, like a reverend, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
would die without contact with his family | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
and also without having made a will. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Reverend Edward Morris died on 4th March 2011. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
He was 68 years old. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
To friends like Father Nigel Griffin, Reverend Morris was | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
always known as Ted and he is remembered with great affection. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
The first time I met Ted was when he came to dinner with another friend | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
and we had a wonderful evening together, he was a very amusing man. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
He was really quite quiet, but once conversation started rolling, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:04 | |
he became much more expansive and had a fund of wonderful stories to tell. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
Father Griffin and Ted worked closely together for six years | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
at the Imperial College Healthcare Trust in west London. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Ted was here as the lead chaplain, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
so he was in charge of about half a dozen chaplains, and we all | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
were an ecumenical team, I happen now to be a Roman Catholic, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
he's Church of England, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
but we worked hand in glove and were very close colleagues. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
As a hospital chaplain, Ted's job was to provide patients with | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
spiritual support and friendship. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
A role in which he excelled. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Ted was particularly good with, what you might call, the lost souls, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
people who were right on the margins of things, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
people who really didn't seem to have any hope in them. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
And he was wonderful at being able to give them encouragement | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
and really give them the sort of support that they needed. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
Ted left the hospital in 2008, after 20 years' service. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
But sadly his health began to deteriorate and he moved | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
into a residential community for retired clergy in Surrey. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
I knew he'd gone to the homes of St Barnabas, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
because his health had meant that he really, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
really wasn't coping by himself, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and I thought moving there would give him a new lease of life, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
so it came as really quite a shock to discover that he'd suddenly died. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
I don't really know why Ted didn't make a will. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I think, very probably, he really didn't think he was about to die | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
and, probably like so many of us, I think, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
something he always intended to do, but didn't get around to. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Although Bob and the team were working on a referral, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
there was always the chance Reverend Morris' case | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
could crop up on the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
where rival heir hunting firms could pick it up. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
To stop this happening, Bob had to act fast. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
But at the start, he had very little to go on. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
The only information we had about the Reverend Morris was that | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
provided by his death certificate. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
That he died on 4th March in 2011 in Lingfield in Surrey. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
That he'd formerly lived in London and, I think, Gloucestershire. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
Although Reverend Morris died in a retirement home, Bob and the team | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
soon discovered some information which made the case worth working. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
He actually owned a flat in west London. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
The value of that flat - obviously properties in London - | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
is, you know, pretty good. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
And on that basis, we were more than willing to try | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
and locate the family members and prove their entitlement. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
The firm works on commission for a percentage of the estate, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
so the higher the value, the more potential profit. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
But it only gets paid if the team finds and signs up heirs. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
Having established that Reverend Morris never married | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
and had no children, the next step was to find out | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
if he had any siblings, who would normally be next in line to inherit. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
As the death certificate had provided us with a place and date of birth, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
we were able to obtain a copy of the Reverend Morris' birth certificate, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
which obviously gives us the names of his parents. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Once we'd established their names, we could find their marriage | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
and see if he had any brothers or sisters. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Reverend Morris' parents were Edward Alfred Morris | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and Agnes Mary Murray Beck. They married in Middlesbrough in 1931. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
But records show they had no other children, which meant Bob | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
and his team were now looking for aunts, uncles and cousins. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
There's two ways of looking at the fact that there were no near kin, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
ie, brothers, sisters, nephews and nieces. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
There's more chance of a more distant relation being happy with us | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
to represent them, obviously, a brother or sister. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
So in that respect, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
I was quite pleased that there were no near relations. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
But, of course, when you are looking into the extended families, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
it means more research and more man-hours. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
By looking at his father's birth certificate, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Bob established the names of Reverend Morris' | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
paternal grandparents as Joseph Morris and Alice Shilvock. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
From there, they were able to look for the family on census records | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
and he uncovered some interesting details about their lives. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
The paternal family actually | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
originated from the Worcestershire area - Stourbridge, Worcestershire, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
but had ended up in Middlesbrough by the 1911 census. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Worcestershire to Middlesbrough is some distance, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
particularly at that time. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
I can only assume that the paternal grandfather's occupation | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
as a blast furnace foreman had taken him | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
to some sort of job in the Middlesbrough area. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
In the second half of the 19th century, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Middlesbrough was the fastest growing town in Britain. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Its population swelled from just 5,000 in 1851 | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
to around 140,000 by the turn of the century. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
People came to the town from all corners of the country, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
searching for work in its thriving iron industry. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
The main factor that led to Middlesbrough's growth, of course, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
was the finding of iron in the Eston Hills | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and later in the Cleveland Hills to the south of Middlesbrough. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
And this then led to the erection of a whole series of blast furnaces | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
in and around Middlesbrough and along the banks of the River Tees. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
And, of course, to provide the labour, the skills | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
and the workers for these ironworks, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
you needed workers who weren't available locally, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
so they had to be brought in. And as iron production expanded, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
then, of course, the population expanded very rapidly. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
By the mid-1870s, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Middlesbrough was producing around one million tonnes of iron a year, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
a quarter of Britain's total output. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
The town had become not just the biggest iron producing district | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
in the country, but the biggest iron producing district in the world. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
In its heyday, Middlesbrough primarily produced railway iron. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
So the thousands of miles, well, there were thousands of miles, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
of railway track around the world - | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
America, South America, South Africa, India and Australia and so on, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
they were supplied by Middlesbrough companies. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
Census records show Joseph Morris and his family moved to | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Middlesbrough around the turn of the century. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
By then, it was a well-developed iron and steel town | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
with plenty of opportunities for work. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
But his job as a blast furnace foreman | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
was not for the fainthearted. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Joseph Morris would work long hours, would be very hot, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
very dirty atmosphere. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
It would be a long, hard, arduous working day. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
It could be dangerous. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
Remember, the temperature inside the blast furnace would be | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
somewhere around 15 or 1,600 degrees Fahrenheit. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
There was potential for lots of accidents and for explosions | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and of course if you look at local newspaper records, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
you can find many examples of workers who'd been killed | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
or injured as a result of these accidents. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
In the early 20th century, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
Middlesbrough became a major force in steel production. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
The material was widely used in ship and bridge construction | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
and it's likely that Reverend Morris' grandfather Joseph | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
could have had a hand in building some major landmarks. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
Middlesbrough's company was famously known for the Sydney Harbour Bridge, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
but also for the Tyne Bridge, the Auckland Harbour Bridge | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and many other bridges across the world. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
The 1911 census showed that as well as Reverend Morris' father Edward, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
Joseph and his wife Alice had nine other children, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
six of whom survived into adulthood. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
These would be Reverend Morris' aunts and uncles | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
and they or their living descendants | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
would be entitled to a share in his estate. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
It was a daunting task for case manager Bob Smith. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
Having six branches of the family to research can be quite complicated. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:10 | |
Families become fractured, lose contact with each other | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and also Morris is quite a common surname. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
Common names and big families can slow research down. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
And the pressure was on for the team to find heirs | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
before this case reached the Treasury's unclaimed list. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Could they solve the mystery in time? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Heir hunters track down thousands of beneficiaries every year. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
But they can't crack every case. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
The Treasury's unclaimed list still contains many | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
that have yet to be solved. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
So, we'll administer the estate | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
and then when the administration is completed, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
we'll put the case on the unclaimed list, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
so that people may still come forward and claim it. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
Today, we're focusing on two cases | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
which have so far eluded the heir hunters. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for? | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Could you be in line for a cash windfall? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
First is the case of Denise Lucie Octavie Jeane Janovtechnik | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
who died in Wimbledon, south-west London on 28th November 2005. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Despite her unusual name, the heir hunters have | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
so far been unable to track down any of her relatives. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Does this name ring any bells with you? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
It could suggest a French connection, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
is it a name you recognise? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
Next is the case of Ronald Arrowsmith | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
who died on 21st October 2011, in Sandwell in the West Midlands. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:44 | |
The Arrowsmith name is most common in the north-west of England. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
Are you an Arrowsmith? Could Ronald be a long lost family member? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
If so, thousands of pounds could be coming your way. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Both Denise and Ronald's estates remain unclaimed | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
and if no-one comes forward, their money will go to the Government. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
When considering a claim for an estate, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
it is very important that a person puts forward a very good case. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
And it's all based on the evidence. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
What we need are the birth, death, marriage certificates, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
perhaps something on adoption. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
And then we consider the evidence very carefully. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Those names once again - | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Denise Lucie Octavie Jeane Janovtechnik and Ronald Arrowsmith. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
In Liverpool, Saul Marks, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
a case manager with heir hunting firm, Celtic Research, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
is trying to track down beneficiaries to the estate | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
of a man called William Hall who died more than 100 years ago. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
It's very interesting for us to work cases | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
where we are in a completely different timeframe from normal. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
William Hall, a farmer and grazier from the village of Staverton | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
in Northamptonshire, drowned in a pool on his land in 1899. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
An inquest at the time heard that he may have become disorientated | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
in the foggy weather that night and stumbled into the water. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
A bachelor, with no children of his own, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
William made a will which divided up most of his estate | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
between the children of his six paternal uncles and aunts. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
But one portion belonging to his uncle Thomas' children | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
has not yet been claimed. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
The value of Thomas Hall's share of the estate, his one sixth, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:25 | |
in 1899 was just over £381. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
In today's money, we believe that's about £36,000. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
So, if we can find heirs to Thomas Hall's branch of the family, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
then they will hopefully be sharing about £36,000. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
Saul was asked to look into the case by a woman called Valerie Foley, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
who believed she was related to Thomas Hall. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
But Saul proved she wasn't, so the hunt goes on. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
This means the real heirs to this £36,000 estate are still out there. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
If Saul and the team can find them quickly, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
it could mean a healthy profit for the company. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
But this case is far from straightforward. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
The problem with working cases like this is that many of the heirs | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
over several generations have actually died. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
So instead of working down the families | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
generation by generation, we have to work down will by will. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
When it comes to heir hunting, time is money. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
The more work and effort required to solve a case, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
the less profit for the firm. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
So the pressure is on | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
for Saul to find William Hall's living heirs fast. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Now back from his trip to Northampton, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
he's got his hands on some documents | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
that he hopes could unlock this tricky case. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Once we'd established from the trip to Northampton that the family | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
I traced was the right family, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
I was then able to order some wills | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
of some of the descendants of Thomas Hall, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
who I believed would have been heirs had they been alive. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
So, I actually ordered four wills, which I've received today. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
William Hall's uncle Thomas had seven children. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
As all of them have long since passed away, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
the money left to them by William will automatically go | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
to the beneficiaries named in their wills. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
As copies of all wills made in England and Wales after 1858 | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
are held at the Probate Service in London, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
the team in the London office, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
led by company co-owner Hector Birchwood, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
has stepped in to help out with what's fast becoming a mammoth task. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
One of the wills they've found is that of Jane Waite, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Thomas Hall's youngest daughter. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
"This is the last will and testament of me, Jane Waite, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
"wife of William Waite of Staverton in the county of Northampton, shoemaker." | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
It appears that Jane divided up her estate between her husband | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and her five children. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
The London office has also sent Saul a will for who they think | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
is one of her sons, Fred Waite. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
It could hold the key to finding the first heirs. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
So, Fred Waite of 20 Baker Street in the city of Leeds... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
..Erm, died on 2nd November 1935. This is the wrong probate. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
They've ordered me the wrong probate. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Oh. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
The Fred Waite whose will Saul needed | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
died in 1934 in Buckinghamshire. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
But it's a common name | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
and Saul has ended up with the will of a different man. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
It's a setback, but Saul's determined to keep moving forward. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
Even though we've hit this obstacle today in terms of not being | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
able to see Fred's probate, Fred's will, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Fred's branch is really only one small stem of this tree. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
If we look at the fact that the deceased's uncle Thomas Hall | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
had seven children, Jane Hall was the youngest of those children, | 0:26:55 | 0:27:02 | |
so there are all her brothers and sisters' families to find. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
There's a lot of heirs that are going to be found on this estate. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
A few days later, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Saul is still waiting to receive a copy of Fred's will. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
In the meantime, research has continued. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
This is where we're at with Jane Hall's tree. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
It's gone on to four, effectively five, pages now. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
Obviously, there are quite a few people there who, hopefully, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
should still be alive. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
We don't know whether they're heirs yet, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
because that depends on the probates higher up above them in the tree. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
He's also started to trace the descendants of one | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
of Thomas Hall's other children. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
Yesterday, we were able to crack open the branch of Charlotte Hall, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
who was Jane's sister. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Now, Charlotte had seven children, I think, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and one of her eight children | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
and one of her children had all this many people. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
So, we've been feverishly lapping up all these people called Gardner | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
and we've got to go through exactly the same process. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Their tree will be bigger than this one, many of them will be heirs. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
But again we can't just trace the family down like normal, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
because it all depends entirely on the probates. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
With so many people to trace, the work is piling up | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and it's clear that tracing beneficiaries | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
is likely to take some time. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
And even if they do find the heirs, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
there's no guarantee that they'll sign up with the firm. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
It's a big gamble for Saul and the team. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
As the day unfolds, Saul has news on the elusive will of Fred Waite. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
We've spent most of today waiting anxiously for Fred Waite's probate. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
It transpires I'd actually made a small mistake | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
in that he didn't leave a will, it's in administration, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
which means that his estate automatically passes | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
to his three daughters in equal shares. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
His eldest daughter Jessie was one of the probates that we picked up | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
a couple of days ago and she leaves all her estate to a charity. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
So, her share of this will go to that charity in due course. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
When the team looks into what became of Fred's youngest daughter, Annie's share of the estate, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:17 | |
they discover just how hugely complex this case is. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
The money will end up in the hands of her third husband's stepdaughter. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
The deceased in this case, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
which is where this money will come to Jeanette from, will be her... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
..second stepfather's first wife's first cousin, twice removed. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:42 | |
Now, if you want to get any more complicated | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
and distant than that, I challenge you to try. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Saul has also managed to make good progress | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
with Charlotte Hall's branch of the family. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
By searching through her will, and those of her many descendants, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
he's managed to trace Richard, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
the great-great-great-grandson of Thomas Hall. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
When Saul phoned, I was really quite surprised, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
cos it's not the sort of call you expect. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
The fact that he knew something about my family and my parents, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
it was my dad he mentioned in particular, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
and because he got some information on him, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
the more interesting it became from my point of view. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
And as luck would have it, Richard is an amateur genealogist | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
and has been researching his own family tree for more than 13 years. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
When Saul called | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
and I mentioned I was interested in family history as well | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
and I knew some of the names, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
he seemed a little bit surprised and he was quite pleased, I think, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
that I was able to provide him with some more information | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
that he hadn't already got. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
And, hopefully, can have a look at it | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
and if he comes up with any anomalies, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
and I'm sure I've got some anomalies on what I've done, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
we'll identify them and we'll get it straight. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
And Saul was able to fill in some gaps in Richard's family history. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
It was quite interesting that he'd got clearly a lot more information | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
on certain parts of the family than I'd gathered. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
In particular, he was aware of the will of William | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
and to find out that we were potential beneficiaries | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
was quite interesting. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
I suspect the amount of money that will be divided eventually | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
is not too great, but I don't think that's the interesting aspect, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
it's the connection with someone that died 100 years ago | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
and how his family evolved. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
Because Richard's mother left her estate to her grandchildren, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
any money there is from William Hall's estate will skip Richard | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
and go straight to his two children. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
I'm delighted to know that my children will inherit something | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
that they weren't expecting. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
It might not be much, but it's something. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
Finding Richard is a great result for the company. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
But there's still a long way to go | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
before this difficult case is wrapped up. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
These sorts of cases really are complex | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
and this is a prime example of this. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
We have to work very methodically from one probate to the next, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
to the next and it does take longer and it can be more complicated. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
But we are managing it, it's fine, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
it's something that we're used to doing | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
and we're clearly having some success, somewhere. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
In London, the team at heir hunting firm Fraser & Fraser | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
was working the case of Reverend Edward Morris, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
a former hospital chaplain who died in 2011 without leaving a will. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
The company had been approached by a solicitor | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
who needed help in tracking down the Reverend's missing relatives. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
Case manager Bob Smith was running the research. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
We had no real indication as to the value of the Reverend Morris' estate. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
The fact that he owned a flat in London was enough information | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
for us to decide that this was certainly a case that, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
you know, we'd be more than interested in working. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Reverend Edward Morris was born in 1942 | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
and grew up in the seaside town of Redcar in Teesside. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
According to his friend, Father Nigel Griffin, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
who knew the reverend as Ted, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
he was in a very different line of work before he joined the church. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Well, Ted's original career was as a chemical engineer | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
with ICI on Teesside. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
But in his mid-20s, he went to King's College in London | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
to train for the Church of England ministry. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
It was to be the beginning of a long and illustrious career in the church. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Ted later moved to Oxford | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
where he became chaplain to St Edmund Hall, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
one of the university's colleges. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Edward had a very strong academic bent | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
and whilst he was at Oxford, Ted did his DPhil, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
his doctor of philosophy degree, in the philosophy of Heidegger. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
And was very much an academic, but also somebody who wanted to | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
give a practical application to his academic understanding. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:08 | |
Later on, whilst working as a hospital chaplain, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Ted got the chance to do just that. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
As well as being a chaplain working on the wards | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
and with the staff of the hospital, he was a lecturer in medical ethics. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
He taught at the Royal Postgraduate Medical School of Imperial College. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Outside of work, Ted had many interests. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
He was quite a rounded personality, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
so he was very much interested in music. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
In fact, he was a cello player himself, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
and very much enjoyed attending concerts and listening to music. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
And he was a popular man | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
with friends scattered all over the world. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
I attended his funeral with quite a number of colleagues | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
from the hospital here. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
Looking around the chapel at the funeral, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
it was amazing to see how many different people there were. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
I certainly hadn't realised | 0:34:57 | 0:34:58 | |
how many different connections with different people he had. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
There was a lovely get-together afterwards and people were able | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
to exchange stories about Ted and really remember him with great love. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
But despite his reputation as a warm and genial man, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
it seems Ted had, for some reason, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
lost contact with his relatives in the north-east of England. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
It meant case manager Bob Smith had his work cut out | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
in trying to track them down. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
From the 1911 census, Bob and his team had discovered | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
that Reverend Morris' father, also called Edward, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
had nine brothers and sisters, six of whom survived into adulthood. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
These would be the Reverend's uncle and aunts | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and they or their living descendants | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
would be in line to inherit a share of his estate. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
The team now set about trying to find marriages | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
and children for them. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:53 | |
And they had a strategy to help narrow down the dozens | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
of potential options. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
When we're dealing with common surnames, it's usual to stick | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
to the area, particularly, where the family originated from. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:10 | |
In this case, it was Middlesbrough. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
So, by doing that, we were eventually able to identify marriages | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
for some of those six branches of the family | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
and as a result of finding those marriages, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
we could identify children, some of whom were still alive. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Reverend Morris' Uncle John married a woman called Annie May Phillips. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
The couple had three children - Alice, Geoffrey and Bronwyn - | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
first cousins to Reverend Morris. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Alice and Geoffrey have now passed away, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
but Bronwyn is still alive and well. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
The team was on the brink of finding its first heir. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
Bronwyn Morris is a rather, sort of, unusual combination, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
particularly in the Middlesbrough area. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Her parents had married there, they died there. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
She herself was married there and had stayed fairly local. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
So it was quite easy to track her down | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
and once we had contacted her, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
she provided a great deal of information | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
about the rest of the family. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
Bronwyn is Reverend Morris' last surviving first cousin | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
on his father's side. She had no idea he had passed away. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
I was very shocked to know what it was all about | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
and what had happened to Edward. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
Because he was young, he was only, I think, in his sixties | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
and I wasn't expecting such an early death, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
cos I think he was quite a healthy person. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
Although she hadn't heard from her cousin for many years, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Bronwyn and Edward had been close as children. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I knew him as a little boy growing up, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
being with his parents and with my parents. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
So I'd had a lifetime of being with Edward as a little girl | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
and growing up with him. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
I remember Edward as just a quiet boy | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
and a much loved son by his parents | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
and a nice gentle sort of man. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
He was very, very polite, extremely polite. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Their friendship continued into adulthood | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
and Bronwyn was invited to attend Edward's ordination | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
at Durham Cathedral. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:21 | |
We had a lovely reception afterwards that he'd arranged. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
It was a very jolly occasion, it was lovely. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
I think Edward's profession suited him perfectly. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
He was a gentle, kind young man | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
and I think he would be very interesting to listen to. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:46 | |
I think the community would like him very much. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Edward even conducted the wedding ceremonies | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
for two of Bronwyn's daughters. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
He just took over the church and he was extremely good | 0:38:55 | 0:39:01 | |
and gave a lovely talk about it all | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
and made a very happy marriage for them. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
I think having Edward there as the vicar | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
made it a very personal experience, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
because, you know, he was there taking over the ceremony | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
and the whole family were there and it was lovely. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Bronwyn was one of 13 heirs | 0:39:29 | 0:39:30 | |
on Reverend Morris' father's side of the family. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
But on his mother's side, it was a different story. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Given that the paternal family was quite large, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
when we traced the maternal family on the 1911 census, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
there were only five children, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
so it was quite a relief to know that we weren't going to be faced | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
with the same problems of a common name and also a large family. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:55 | |
Reverend Morris' maternal grandparents were called | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Thomas Beck and Mary Murray Beck. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Agnes, Reverend Morris' mother, was their youngest child | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
and out of her four siblings only one went on to have children. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
The research on the maternal family of Reverend Edward Morris was very, very easy. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
We were dealing with a very, sort of, unusual name, Beck. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
They'd stayed in the Middlesbrough area | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
and one of the maternal aunts, Lydia, that's an unusual name. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
We were quickly and easily able to identify her marriage | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
and find children from her marriage. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
In total, case manager Bob and his team | 0:40:31 | 0:40:35 | |
found just two heirs on the maternal side. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
I think the fact that we'd had to look to both paternal and maternal families, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
the fact that we only have 15 heirs in total is relatively unusual. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
You'd probably be looking to more, sort of, 30, 40. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
So, I was quite pleased that we didn't have that much to do in the end. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
Reverend Morris' property will have to be sold | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
before any of the heirs can receive any money. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
But they could be in for quite a windfall. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Given the likely value of £200,000-£250,000 | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
and the fact that we've only traced 15 heirs | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
means that most of those family members | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
are going to receive a sizeable sum. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Certainly something that will enhance their lives. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
His cousin Bronwyn has no idea yet how much money she will get, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
but whatever there is will come in helpful. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I think getting this inheritance, I would like to help my family. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
A couple of my children at the moment, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
have some very serious health problems | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
and a couple of the little girls are at university now, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
struggling with their fees. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
So it would be nice to give them a little treat as well. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
I think Edward would be very happy to know that the money is going | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
to help the family in general with some nice little treats in store. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:02 | |
Because I think we all enjoy a little treat, don't we? | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
But for her, more important than the money, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
has been the opportunity to remember the cousin | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
who drifted apart from his family so many years ago. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
I'm so pleased that he's had a good life and it sounds to me | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
as though Edward has had a very happy life in his work. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
So, I think that makes me feel contented to know. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
And I think his parents loved him so much | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
that I think they would be very happy to know | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
that Edward's had a good, happy life and fulfilled what he wanted to do. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:43 | |
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