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Heir hunters specialise in tracking down people who are entitled to money from someone who has died.

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If we don't do the work to inform them,

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it's money which is going to go to the Government.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to relatives who had no idea

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-they were in line to inherit.

-If you get nothing, then we get nothing.

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Their work involves painstaking investigation.

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What the hell is going on here?

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But it can rekindle long forgotten family memories.

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He was a gentle, kind young man.

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But most of all, the work is giving people news of an unexpected windfall.

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I was absolutely gobsmacked.

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Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door?

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Coming up - the heir hunters grapple with the mammoth case of a man

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who died over a century ago.

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It's gone on to four, effectively five, pages now.

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The mysterious case of a popular vicar who drifted

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apart from his relatives.

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I find it rather strange that a public figure like a reverend

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would die without contact with his family

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and also without having made a will.

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Plus, how you could be entitled to inherit unclaimed estates

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held by the Treasury.

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Could a fortune be heading your way?

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It's a Tuesday morning

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and the team at heir hunting firm Celtic Research,

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run by father and son team Peter and Hector Birchwood,

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are getting stuck into a very unusual case.

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Eventually, we'll have something to give to the heirs.

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Case manager Saul Marks, who runs the firm's north west office,

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has travelled 150 miles from his base in Liverpool to

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the Northamptonshire Records Office,

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where he hopes to unearth some vital information on a 113-year-old case.

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-I'm here to look at some records for the village of Staverton.

-Come through, Mr Marks.

-Thank you.

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Saul is on the hunt for relatives of a man called William Hall,

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who died in 1899.

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Right, I'm after some parish records for Staverton.

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-OK.

-Erm, marriages for the 1800s, 1810s.

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-OK.

-Up to about 1815.

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And then baptisms probably from about 1770 to about 1890...1790, sorry. OK.

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Because this case is so old, Saul has to trawl through

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yards of microfiche records to get the information he needs.

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It looks like he could have a long day ahead of him.

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I'm currently in about 1794, so we need to move on a bit from that.

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Most of the heir hunters' work comes from the Treasury's

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bona vacantia list of unclaimed states.

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But this job was different from the start.

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The firm took on this case after being contacted by a woman

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called Valerie Foley, who had spent several years trying to prove

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that her family was entitled to inherit from William Hall's estate.

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She started her research after the death of her great-aunt Sisi.

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Sisi had left a large tin trunk, erm...

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with lots and lots of family documents,

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amongst which was the start of the research

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to the link with William Hall.

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Born in 1824, William Hall was a wealthy farmer

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from the village of Staverton in Northamptonshire.

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He inherited the farm from his father

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and the Hall farm was really quite substantial.

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At various times, he had bought up parcels of land

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and property in the surrounding area and when he actually died, his estate

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consisted of a number of properties and a large amount of farmland.

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On 9th April 1899, 74-year-old William died a mysterious death.

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The cause of death was listed as "found drowned in a pool".

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Erm, we were actually able to look up some newspaper reports

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from the time about this.

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He was found on a Sunday morning and he'd been out walking on his estate

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late on a Saturday night

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and that was the last time he'd been seen alive.

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In contrast to most of the cases that Saul's company deals with,

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the deceased in this case did leave a will.

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William Hall made a number of bequests in his will.

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Once he'd completed making those bequests,

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he divided the residue of his estate into six equal portions.

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Each of those portions was bequeathed to the children of each

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of his six aunts and uncles who had all already predeceased him.

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But at least one portion, that belonging to

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the descendants of William's uncle Thomas, has never been claimed.

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And it's this Thomas Hall that Valerie Foley's great-aunt Sisi

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had been trying to prove she was related to.

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There were lots of Thomas Halls in the family.

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Her own father was Thomas, her grandfather was Thomas

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and her great-great-grandfather was Thomas Hall.

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So I thought, "Let's have a see if we can find who Thomas Hall was."

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Was he indeed the man mentioned in William Hall's will?

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In 1899, the value of Thomas Hall's share was just over £381.

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That's about £36,000 in today's money.

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A substantial windfall for Valerie and her family,

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if she could trace her bloodline back to Thomas Hall.

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But after several years of trying,

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she drew a blank and decided to call in the experts.

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I initially got in touch with Saul,

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because I think I'd got as far as I could physically go with the research

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on William and the link to - maybe, maybe not - one of my Uncle Thomases.

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I was limited in lots of angles of my research,

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records too early for me to find.

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So that was the reason I made the choice to say to somebody,

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"Could you verify what I'd got already?"

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In Saul's hands, the case took an unexpected turn.

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During my research, I was able to prove, beyond any question,

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that Mrs Foley's family, sadly, weren't related to the deceased.

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Although it was the same surname, Mrs Foley's ancestors, her Halls

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and her Thomas Hall, came from the Edmonton area of north London

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and the deceased's family were very deeply rooted

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in the village of Staverton, going back many, many generations.

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So, sadly, I had to explain to Mrs Foley that after all her work

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and her ancestors' work that she wouldn't be entitled to inherit.

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Far from being disappointed, Valerie was delighted that someone,

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somewhere, might be in line for a windfall.

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Thank goodness someone else has taken it on.

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To be very honest, I was quite relieved.

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I was battling something which I was never going to be able to achieve,

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but then Saul can hopefully find the right people

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and it would be such fun.

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With a £36,000 estate still unclaimed,

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it could be a job worth doing for Saul and the firm,

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who work on commission for a percentage of the estate's value.

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But finding the descendants of a man who died more than 100 years ago

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is no mean feat.

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And if the family turns out to be large,

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Saul could have a lot of hard work in store.

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Today, he's come to the Northamptonshire Records Office

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to try to find out more about William Hall and his family.

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Some of those are missing but that shouldn't, hopefully, be a problem.

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Right, OK.

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From the information provided by Valerie, Saul has drawn up

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a rudimentary family tree showing William Hall's paternal grandparents

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and some of his uncles and aunts.

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But in order to prove his findings are correct,

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he has to study parish records dating back more than 200 years.

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The first part is to try and find the births of all these aunts and uncles,

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which will be, hopefully, anywhere from about 1775 to about 1795.

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It's an arduous task,

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as the records are all handwritten they can be difficult to decipher.

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What looks like Tamoulane Gulliman, there's the G, you see,

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son of Thomas and Sarah Bulliman.

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Hours later, Saul manages to find baptism records

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for all of William Hall's uncles and aunts

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and the marriage listing for their parents Samuel and Elizabeth Hall

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reveals some interesting information.

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I thought I'd have a quick look back and see

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if I could find the marriage listing for Samuel and Elizabeth Hall,

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that's the deceased's grandparents, and here I've got it.

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Erm, and they married in 1778

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and their first child was conceived before the marriage, as well.

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These people, like one or two of the others we've come across,

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were married by licence, not by banns.

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It cost money to be married by licence, so it could suggest that

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they were, perhaps, slightly better off than some of their neighbours.

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Alternatively, getting married by licence was a much quicker way

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of doing it than being married by banns and, as such,

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you might want to get married quickly

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if you were about to have a baby, like this couple were.

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Saul has discovered that William Hall's grandparents

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had 14 children in total, 12 of whom survived into adulthood.

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Six of them went on to have families of their own

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and it's their descendants that would be in line

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to inherit William's fortune.

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With this new information,

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Saul is able to update William's family tree.

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There's no doubt about it,

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that coming to see the original records is

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so much more informative than doing them from transcripts online.

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Obviously, it's a long trek from our Liverpool office,

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but it's definitely been very worthwhile today,

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I've really been able to confirm what I had thought

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about the make-up of this family and the construction of this family

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and we can now move forward and see if we can contact the heirs.

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Satisfied with his progress,

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Saul heads back to Liverpool to continue his search for heirs.

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But this already complex case is about to get even more tricky.

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When we're dealing with a case where someone has died so long ago,

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there are so many people who have died with a vested interest,

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so instead of stepping from generation to generation,

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we're stepping from will to will.

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Heir hunters' work can come from a variety of sources.

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Each week, the Treasury publishes a list of unclaimed estates.

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But sometimes, cases are referred by solicitors

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or friends of the deceased.

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That's what happened when a reverend called Edward Morris died in 2011.

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His case was passed on to the team at the country's biggest firm

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of heir hunters, Fraser & Fraser.

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Case manager Bob Smith was in charge.

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We were contacted by solicitors,

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a friend of the deceased had walked into their offices,

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explained that he'd died, that they couldn't trace a will

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and they had no knowledge of any family.

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The job immediately struck Bob as an unusual one.

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I find it rather strange that a public figure, like a reverend,

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would die without contact with his family

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and also without having made a will.

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Reverend Edward Morris died on 4th March 2011.

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He was 68 years old.

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To friends like Father Nigel Griffin, Reverend Morris was

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always known as Ted and he is remembered with great affection.

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The first time I met Ted was when he came to dinner with another friend

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and we had a wonderful evening together, he was a very amusing man.

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He was really quite quiet, but once conversation started rolling,

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he became much more expansive and had a fund of wonderful stories to tell.

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Father Griffin and Ted worked closely together for six years

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at the Imperial College Healthcare Trust in west London.

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Ted was here as the lead chaplain,

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so he was in charge of about half a dozen chaplains, and we all

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were an ecumenical team, I happen now to be a Roman Catholic,

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he's Church of England,

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but we worked hand in glove and were very close colleagues.

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As a hospital chaplain, Ted's job was to provide patients with

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spiritual support and friendship.

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A role in which he excelled.

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Ted was particularly good with, what you might call, the lost souls,

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people who were right on the margins of things,

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people who really didn't seem to have any hope in them.

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And he was wonderful at being able to give them encouragement

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and really give them the sort of support that they needed.

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Ted left the hospital in 2008, after 20 years' service.

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But sadly his health began to deteriorate and he moved

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into a residential community for retired clergy in Surrey.

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I knew he'd gone to the homes of St Barnabas,

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because his health had meant that he really,

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really wasn't coping by himself,

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and I thought moving there would give him a new lease of life,

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so it came as really quite a shock to discover that he'd suddenly died.

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I don't really know why Ted didn't make a will.

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I think, very probably, he really didn't think he was about to die

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and, probably like so many of us, I think,

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something he always intended to do, but didn't get around to.

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Although Bob and the team were working on a referral,

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there was always the chance Reverend Morris' case

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could crop up on the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates,

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where rival heir hunting firms could pick it up.

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To stop this happening, Bob had to act fast.

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But at the start, he had very little to go on.

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The only information we had about the Reverend Morris was that

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provided by his death certificate.

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That he died on 4th March in 2011 in Lingfield in Surrey.

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That he'd formerly lived in London and, I think, Gloucestershire.

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Although Reverend Morris died in a retirement home, Bob and the team

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soon discovered some information which made the case worth working.

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He actually owned a flat in west London.

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The value of that flat - obviously properties in London -

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is, you know, pretty good.

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And on that basis, we were more than willing to try

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and locate the family members and prove their entitlement.

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The firm works on commission for a percentage of the estate,

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so the higher the value, the more potential profit.

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But it only gets paid if the team finds and signs up heirs.

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Having established that Reverend Morris never married

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and had no children, the next step was to find out

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if he had any siblings, who would normally be next in line to inherit.

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As the death certificate had provided us with a place and date of birth,

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we were able to obtain a copy of the Reverend Morris' birth certificate,

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which obviously gives us the names of his parents.

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Once we'd established their names, we could find their marriage

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and see if he had any brothers or sisters.

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Reverend Morris' parents were Edward Alfred Morris

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and Agnes Mary Murray Beck. They married in Middlesbrough in 1931.

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But records show they had no other children, which meant Bob

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and his team were now looking for aunts, uncles and cousins.

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There's two ways of looking at the fact that there were no near kin,

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ie, brothers, sisters, nephews and nieces.

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There's more chance of a more distant relation being happy with us

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to represent them, obviously, a brother or sister.

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So in that respect,

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I was quite pleased that there were no near relations.

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But, of course, when you are looking into the extended families,

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it means more research and more man-hours.

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By looking at his father's birth certificate,

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Bob established the names of Reverend Morris'

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paternal grandparents as Joseph Morris and Alice Shilvock.

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From there, they were able to look for the family on census records

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and he uncovered some interesting details about their lives.

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The paternal family actually

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originated from the Worcestershire area - Stourbridge, Worcestershire,

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but had ended up in Middlesbrough by the 1911 census.

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Worcestershire to Middlesbrough is some distance,

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particularly at that time.

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I can only assume that the paternal grandfather's occupation

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as a blast furnace foreman had taken him

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to some sort of job in the Middlesbrough area.

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In the second half of the 19th century,

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Middlesbrough was the fastest growing town in Britain.

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Its population swelled from just 5,000 in 1851

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to around 140,000 by the turn of the century.

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People came to the town from all corners of the country,

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searching for work in its thriving iron industry.

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The main factor that led to Middlesbrough's growth, of course,

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was the finding of iron in the Eston Hills

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and later in the Cleveland Hills to the south of Middlesbrough.

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And this then led to the erection of a whole series of blast furnaces

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in and around Middlesbrough and along the banks of the River Tees.

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And, of course, to provide the labour, the skills

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and the workers for these ironworks,

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you needed workers who weren't available locally,

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so they had to be brought in. And as iron production expanded,

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then, of course, the population expanded very rapidly.

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By the mid-1870s,

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Middlesbrough was producing around one million tonnes of iron a year,

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a quarter of Britain's total output.

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The town had become not just the biggest iron producing district

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in the country, but the biggest iron producing district in the world.

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In its heyday, Middlesbrough primarily produced railway iron.

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So the thousands of miles, well, there were thousands of miles,

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of railway track around the world -

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America, South America, South Africa, India and Australia and so on,

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they were supplied by Middlesbrough companies.

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Census records show Joseph Morris and his family moved to

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Middlesbrough around the turn of the century.

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By then, it was a well-developed iron and steel town

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with plenty of opportunities for work.

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But his job as a blast furnace foreman

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was not for the fainthearted.

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Joseph Morris would work long hours, would be very hot,

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very dirty atmosphere.

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It would be a long, hard, arduous working day.

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It could be dangerous.

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Remember, the temperature inside the blast furnace would be

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somewhere around 15 or 1,600 degrees Fahrenheit.

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There was potential for lots of accidents and for explosions

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and of course if you look at local newspaper records,

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you can find many examples of workers who'd been killed

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or injured as a result of these accidents.

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In the early 20th century,

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Middlesbrough became a major force in steel production.

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The material was widely used in ship and bridge construction

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and it's likely that Reverend Morris' grandfather Joseph

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could have had a hand in building some major landmarks.

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Middlesbrough's company was famously known for the Sydney Harbour Bridge,

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but also for the Tyne Bridge, the Auckland Harbour Bridge

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and many other bridges across the world.

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The 1911 census showed that as well as Reverend Morris' father Edward,

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Joseph and his wife Alice had nine other children,

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six of whom survived into adulthood.

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These would be Reverend Morris' aunts and uncles

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and they or their living descendants

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would be entitled to a share in his estate.

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It was a daunting task for case manager Bob Smith.

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Having six branches of the family to research can be quite complicated.

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Families become fractured, lose contact with each other

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and also Morris is quite a common surname.

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Common names and big families can slow research down.

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And the pressure was on for the team to find heirs

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before this case reached the Treasury's unclaimed list.

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Could they solve the mystery in time?

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Heir hunters track down thousands of beneficiaries every year.

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But they can't crack every case.

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The Treasury's unclaimed list still contains many

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that have yet to be solved.

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So, we'll administer the estate

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and then when the administration is completed,

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we'll put the case on the unclaimed list,

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so that people may still come forward and claim it.

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Today, we're focusing on two cases

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which have so far eluded the heir hunters.

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Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for?

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Could you be in line for a cash windfall?

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First is the case of Denise Lucie Octavie Jeane Janovtechnik

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who died in Wimbledon, south-west London on 28th November 2005.

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Despite her unusual name, the heir hunters have

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so far been unable to track down any of her relatives.

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Does this name ring any bells with you?

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It could suggest a French connection,

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is it a name you recognise?

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Next is the case of Ronald Arrowsmith

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who died on 21st October 2011, in Sandwell in the West Midlands.

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The Arrowsmith name is most common in the north-west of England.

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Are you an Arrowsmith? Could Ronald be a long lost family member?

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If so, thousands of pounds could be coming your way.

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Both Denise and Ronald's estates remain unclaimed

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and if no-one comes forward, their money will go to the Government.

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When considering a claim for an estate,

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it is very important that a person puts forward a very good case.

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And it's all based on the evidence.

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What we need are the birth, death, marriage certificates,

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perhaps something on adoption.

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And then we consider the evidence very carefully.

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Those names once again -

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Denise Lucie Octavie Jeane Janovtechnik and Ronald Arrowsmith.

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In Liverpool, Saul Marks,

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a case manager with heir hunting firm, Celtic Research,

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is trying to track down beneficiaries to the estate

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of a man called William Hall who died more than 100 years ago.

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It's very interesting for us to work cases

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where we are in a completely different timeframe from normal.

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William Hall, a farmer and grazier from the village of Staverton

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in Northamptonshire, drowned in a pool on his land in 1899.

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An inquest at the time heard that he may have become disorientated

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in the foggy weather that night and stumbled into the water.

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A bachelor, with no children of his own,

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William made a will which divided up most of his estate

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between the children of his six paternal uncles and aunts.

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But one portion belonging to his uncle Thomas' children

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has not yet been claimed.

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The value of Thomas Hall's share of the estate, his one sixth,

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in 1899 was just over £381.

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In today's money, we believe that's about £36,000.

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So, if we can find heirs to Thomas Hall's branch of the family,

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then they will hopefully be sharing about £36,000.

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Saul was asked to look into the case by a woman called Valerie Foley,

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who believed she was related to Thomas Hall.

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But Saul proved she wasn't, so the hunt goes on.

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This means the real heirs to this £36,000 estate are still out there.

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If Saul and the team can find them quickly,

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it could mean a healthy profit for the company.

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But this case is far from straightforward.

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The problem with working cases like this is that many of the heirs

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over several generations have actually died.

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So instead of working down the families

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generation by generation, we have to work down will by will.

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When it comes to heir hunting, time is money.

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The more work and effort required to solve a case,

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the less profit for the firm.

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So the pressure is on

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for Saul to find William Hall's living heirs fast.

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Now back from his trip to Northampton,

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he's got his hands on some documents

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that he hopes could unlock this tricky case.

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Once we'd established from the trip to Northampton that the family

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I traced was the right family,

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I was then able to order some wills

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of some of the descendants of Thomas Hall,

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who I believed would have been heirs had they been alive.

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So, I actually ordered four wills, which I've received today.

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William Hall's uncle Thomas had seven children.

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As all of them have long since passed away,

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the money left to them by William will automatically go

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to the beneficiaries named in their wills.

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As copies of all wills made in England and Wales after 1858

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are held at the Probate Service in London,

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the team in the London office,

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led by company co-owner Hector Birchwood,

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has stepped in to help out with what's fast becoming a mammoth task.

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One of the wills they've found is that of Jane Waite,

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Thomas Hall's youngest daughter.

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"This is the last will and testament of me, Jane Waite,

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"wife of William Waite of Staverton in the county of Northampton, shoemaker."

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It appears that Jane divided up her estate between her husband

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and her five children.

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The London office has also sent Saul a will for who they think

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is one of her sons, Fred Waite.

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It could hold the key to finding the first heirs.

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So, Fred Waite of 20 Baker Street in the city of Leeds...

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..Erm, died on 2nd November 1935. This is the wrong probate.

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They've ordered me the wrong probate.

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Oh.

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The Fred Waite whose will Saul needed

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died in 1934 in Buckinghamshire.

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But it's a common name

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and Saul has ended up with the will of a different man.

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It's a setback, but Saul's determined to keep moving forward.

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Even though we've hit this obstacle today in terms of not being

0:26:370:26:41

able to see Fred's probate, Fred's will,

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Fred's branch is really only one small stem of this tree.

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If we look at the fact that the deceased's uncle Thomas Hall

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had seven children, Jane Hall was the youngest of those children,

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so there are all her brothers and sisters' families to find.

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There's a lot of heirs that are going to be found on this estate.

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A few days later,

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Saul is still waiting to receive a copy of Fred's will.

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In the meantime, research has continued.

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This is where we're at with Jane Hall's tree.

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It's gone on to four, effectively five, pages now.

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Obviously, there are quite a few people there who, hopefully,

0:27:280:27:32

should still be alive.

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We don't know whether they're heirs yet,

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because that depends on the probates higher up above them in the tree.

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He's also started to trace the descendants of one

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of Thomas Hall's other children.

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Yesterday, we were able to crack open the branch of Charlotte Hall,

0:27:450:27:49

who was Jane's sister.

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Now, Charlotte had seven children, I think,

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and one of her eight children

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and one of her children had all this many people.

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So, we've been feverishly lapping up all these people called Gardner

0:28:000:28:06

and we've got to go through exactly the same process.

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Their tree will be bigger than this one, many of them will be heirs.

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But again we can't just trace the family down like normal,

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because it all depends entirely on the probates.

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With so many people to trace, the work is piling up

0:28:200:28:23

and it's clear that tracing beneficiaries

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is likely to take some time.

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And even if they do find the heirs,

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there's no guarantee that they'll sign up with the firm.

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It's a big gamble for Saul and the team.

0:28:320:28:34

As the day unfolds, Saul has news on the elusive will of Fred Waite.

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We've spent most of today waiting anxiously for Fred Waite's probate.

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It transpires I'd actually made a small mistake

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in that he didn't leave a will, it's in administration,

0:28:480:28:52

which means that his estate automatically passes

0:28:520:28:55

to his three daughters in equal shares.

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His eldest daughter Jessie was one of the probates that we picked up

0:28:570:29:03

a couple of days ago and she leaves all her estate to a charity.

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So, her share of this will go to that charity in due course.

0:29:080:29:12

When the team looks into what became of Fred's youngest daughter, Annie's share of the estate,

0:29:120:29:17

they discover just how hugely complex this case is.

0:29:170:29:21

The money will end up in the hands of her third husband's stepdaughter.

0:29:210:29:25

The deceased in this case,

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which is where this money will come to Jeanette from, will be her...

0:29:270:29:31

..second stepfather's first wife's first cousin, twice removed.

0:29:340:29:42

Now, if you want to get any more complicated

0:29:440:29:49

and distant than that, I challenge you to try.

0:29:490:29:52

Saul has also managed to make good progress

0:29:540:29:56

with Charlotte Hall's branch of the family.

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By searching through her will, and those of her many descendants,

0:29:590:30:02

he's managed to trace Richard,

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the great-great-great-grandson of Thomas Hall.

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When Saul phoned, I was really quite surprised,

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cos it's not the sort of call you expect.

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The fact that he knew something about my family and my parents,

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it was my dad he mentioned in particular,

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and because he got some information on him,

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the more interesting it became from my point of view.

0:30:210:30:24

And as luck would have it, Richard is an amateur genealogist

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and has been researching his own family tree for more than 13 years.

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When Saul called

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and I mentioned I was interested in family history as well

0:30:330:30:36

and I knew some of the names,

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he seemed a little bit surprised and he was quite pleased, I think,

0:30:390:30:42

that I was able to provide him with some more information

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that he hadn't already got.

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And, hopefully, can have a look at it

0:30:460:30:49

and if he comes up with any anomalies,

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and I'm sure I've got some anomalies on what I've done,

0:30:510:30:54

we'll identify them and we'll get it straight.

0:30:540:30:56

And Saul was able to fill in some gaps in Richard's family history.

0:30:560:31:01

It was quite interesting that he'd got clearly a lot more information

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on certain parts of the family than I'd gathered.

0:31:040:31:07

In particular, he was aware of the will of William

0:31:070:31:10

and to find out that we were potential beneficiaries

0:31:100:31:13

was quite interesting.

0:31:130:31:15

I suspect the amount of money that will be divided eventually

0:31:150:31:19

is not too great, but I don't think that's the interesting aspect,

0:31:190:31:22

it's the connection with someone that died 100 years ago

0:31:220:31:26

and how his family evolved.

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Because Richard's mother left her estate to her grandchildren,

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any money there is from William Hall's estate will skip Richard

0:31:310:31:35

and go straight to his two children.

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I'm delighted to know that my children will inherit something

0:31:370:31:40

that they weren't expecting.

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It might not be much, but it's something.

0:31:420:31:45

Finding Richard is a great result for the company.

0:31:490:31:52

But there's still a long way to go

0:31:520:31:54

before this difficult case is wrapped up.

0:31:540:31:57

These sorts of cases really are complex

0:31:570:31:59

and this is a prime example of this.

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We have to work very methodically from one probate to the next,

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to the next and it does take longer and it can be more complicated.

0:32:050:32:09

But we are managing it, it's fine,

0:32:090:32:11

it's something that we're used to doing

0:32:110:32:13

and we're clearly having some success, somewhere.

0:32:130:32:15

In London, the team at heir hunting firm Fraser & Fraser

0:32:240:32:28

was working the case of Reverend Edward Morris,

0:32:280:32:31

a former hospital chaplain who died in 2011 without leaving a will.

0:32:310:32:36

The company had been approached by a solicitor

0:32:360:32:38

who needed help in tracking down the Reverend's missing relatives.

0:32:380:32:42

Case manager Bob Smith was running the research.

0:32:420:32:45

We had no real indication as to the value of the Reverend Morris' estate.

0:32:450:32:50

The fact that he owned a flat in London was enough information

0:32:500:32:56

for us to decide that this was certainly a case that,

0:32:560:32:58

you know, we'd be more than interested in working.

0:32:580:33:02

Reverend Edward Morris was born in 1942

0:33:020:33:06

and grew up in the seaside town of Redcar in Teesside.

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According to his friend, Father Nigel Griffin,

0:33:100:33:12

who knew the reverend as Ted,

0:33:120:33:14

he was in a very different line of work before he joined the church.

0:33:140:33:17

Well, Ted's original career was as a chemical engineer

0:33:190:33:21

with ICI on Teesside.

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But in his mid-20s, he went to King's College in London

0:33:240:33:29

to train for the Church of England ministry.

0:33:290:33:32

It was to be the beginning of a long and illustrious career in the church.

0:33:320:33:36

Ted later moved to Oxford

0:33:360:33:38

where he became chaplain to St Edmund Hall,

0:33:380:33:40

one of the university's colleges.

0:33:400:33:43

Edward had a very strong academic bent

0:33:430:33:47

and whilst he was at Oxford, Ted did his DPhil,

0:33:470:33:51

his doctor of philosophy degree, in the philosophy of Heidegger.

0:33:510:33:56

And was very much an academic, but also somebody who wanted to

0:33:570:34:01

give a practical application to his academic understanding.

0:34:010:34:08

Later on, whilst working as a hospital chaplain,

0:34:080:34:11

Ted got the chance to do just that.

0:34:110:34:13

As well as being a chaplain working on the wards

0:34:130:34:17

and with the staff of the hospital, he was a lecturer in medical ethics.

0:34:170:34:21

He taught at the Royal Postgraduate Medical School of Imperial College.

0:34:210:34:25

Outside of work, Ted had many interests.

0:34:260:34:30

He was quite a rounded personality,

0:34:300:34:32

so he was very much interested in music.

0:34:320:34:35

In fact, he was a cello player himself,

0:34:350:34:38

and very much enjoyed attending concerts and listening to music.

0:34:380:34:42

And he was a popular man

0:34:420:34:44

with friends scattered all over the world.

0:34:440:34:46

I attended his funeral with quite a number of colleagues

0:34:460:34:49

from the hospital here.

0:34:490:34:51

Looking around the chapel at the funeral,

0:34:510:34:53

it was amazing to see how many different people there were.

0:34:530:34:57

I certainly hadn't realised

0:34:570:34:58

how many different connections with different people he had.

0:34:580:35:01

There was a lovely get-together afterwards and people were able

0:35:010:35:05

to exchange stories about Ted and really remember him with great love.

0:35:050:35:09

But despite his reputation as a warm and genial man,

0:35:140:35:17

it seems Ted had, for some reason,

0:35:170:35:20

lost contact with his relatives in the north-east of England.

0:35:200:35:23

It meant case manager Bob Smith had his work cut out

0:35:230:35:25

in trying to track them down.

0:35:250:35:27

From the 1911 census, Bob and his team had discovered

0:35:290:35:32

that Reverend Morris' father, also called Edward,

0:35:320:35:35

had nine brothers and sisters, six of whom survived into adulthood.

0:35:350:35:40

These would be the Reverend's uncle and aunts

0:35:400:35:43

and they or their living descendants

0:35:430:35:45

would be in line to inherit a share of his estate.

0:35:450:35:48

The team now set about trying to find marriages

0:35:490:35:52

and children for them.

0:35:520:35:53

And they had a strategy to help narrow down the dozens

0:35:530:35:56

of potential options.

0:35:560:35:58

When we're dealing with common surnames, it's usual to stick

0:35:590:36:04

to the area, particularly, where the family originated from.

0:36:040:36:10

In this case, it was Middlesbrough.

0:36:100:36:12

So, by doing that, we were eventually able to identify marriages

0:36:140:36:18

for some of those six branches of the family

0:36:180:36:22

and as a result of finding those marriages,

0:36:220:36:25

we could identify children, some of whom were still alive.

0:36:250:36:28

Reverend Morris' Uncle John married a woman called Annie May Phillips.

0:36:300:36:34

The couple had three children - Alice, Geoffrey and Bronwyn -

0:36:340:36:38

first cousins to Reverend Morris.

0:36:380:36:40

Alice and Geoffrey have now passed away,

0:36:420:36:44

but Bronwyn is still alive and well.

0:36:440:36:46

The team was on the brink of finding its first heir.

0:36:460:36:49

Bronwyn Morris is a rather, sort of, unusual combination,

0:36:510:36:54

particularly in the Middlesbrough area.

0:36:540:36:57

Her parents had married there, they died there.

0:36:570:37:00

She herself was married there and had stayed fairly local.

0:37:000:37:04

So it was quite easy to track her down

0:37:040:37:06

and once we had contacted her,

0:37:060:37:08

she provided a great deal of information

0:37:080:37:10

about the rest of the family.

0:37:100:37:12

Bronwyn is Reverend Morris' last surviving first cousin

0:37:120:37:15

on his father's side. She had no idea he had passed away.

0:37:150:37:19

I was very shocked to know what it was all about

0:37:190:37:23

and what had happened to Edward.

0:37:230:37:25

Because he was young, he was only, I think, in his sixties

0:37:250:37:30

and I wasn't expecting such an early death,

0:37:300:37:34

cos I think he was quite a healthy person.

0:37:340:37:37

Although she hadn't heard from her cousin for many years,

0:37:370:37:40

Bronwyn and Edward had been close as children.

0:37:400:37:43

I knew him as a little boy growing up,

0:37:430:37:46

being with his parents and with my parents.

0:37:460:37:50

So I'd had a lifetime of being with Edward as a little girl

0:37:500:37:55

and growing up with him.

0:37:550:37:57

I remember Edward as just a quiet boy

0:37:570:38:01

and a much loved son by his parents

0:38:010:38:06

and a nice gentle sort of man.

0:38:060:38:10

He was very, very polite, extremely polite.

0:38:100:38:14

Their friendship continued into adulthood

0:38:140:38:17

and Bronwyn was invited to attend Edward's ordination

0:38:170:38:20

at Durham Cathedral.

0:38:200:38:21

We had a lovely reception afterwards that he'd arranged.

0:38:210:38:27

It was a very jolly occasion, it was lovely.

0:38:270:38:30

I think Edward's profession suited him perfectly.

0:38:310:38:34

He was a gentle, kind young man

0:38:340:38:39

and I think he would be very interesting to listen to.

0:38:390:38:46

I think the community would like him very much.

0:38:460:38:49

Edward even conducted the wedding ceremonies

0:38:490:38:52

for two of Bronwyn's daughters.

0:38:520:38:54

He just took over the church and he was extremely good

0:38:550:39:01

and gave a lovely talk about it all

0:39:010:39:07

and made a very happy marriage for them.

0:39:070:39:10

I think having Edward there as the vicar

0:39:100:39:12

made it a very personal experience,

0:39:120:39:16

because, you know, he was there taking over the ceremony

0:39:160:39:21

and the whole family were there and it was lovely.

0:39:210:39:25

Bronwyn was one of 13 heirs

0:39:290:39:30

on Reverend Morris' father's side of the family.

0:39:300:39:34

But on his mother's side, it was a different story.

0:39:340:39:37

Given that the paternal family was quite large,

0:39:370:39:40

when we traced the maternal family on the 1911 census,

0:39:400:39:44

there were only five children,

0:39:440:39:46

so it was quite a relief to know that we weren't going to be faced

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with the same problems of a common name and also a large family.

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Reverend Morris' maternal grandparents were called

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Thomas Beck and Mary Murray Beck.

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Agnes, Reverend Morris' mother, was their youngest child

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and out of her four siblings only one went on to have children.

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The research on the maternal family of Reverend Edward Morris was very, very easy.

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We were dealing with a very, sort of, unusual name, Beck.

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They'd stayed in the Middlesbrough area

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and one of the maternal aunts, Lydia, that's an unusual name.

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We were quickly and easily able to identify her marriage

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and find children from her marriage.

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In total, case manager Bob and his team

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found just two heirs on the maternal side.

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I think the fact that we'd had to look to both paternal and maternal families,

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the fact that we only have 15 heirs in total is relatively unusual.

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You'd probably be looking to more, sort of, 30, 40.

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So, I was quite pleased that we didn't have that much to do in the end.

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Reverend Morris' property will have to be sold

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before any of the heirs can receive any money.

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But they could be in for quite a windfall.

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Given the likely value of £200,000-£250,000

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and the fact that we've only traced 15 heirs

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means that most of those family members

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are going to receive a sizeable sum.

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Certainly something that will enhance their lives.

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His cousin Bronwyn has no idea yet how much money she will get,

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but whatever there is will come in helpful.

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I think getting this inheritance, I would like to help my family.

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A couple of my children at the moment,

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have some very serious health problems

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and a couple of the little girls are at university now,

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struggling with their fees.

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So it would be nice to give them a little treat as well.

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I think Edward would be very happy to know that the money is going

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to help the family in general with some nice little treats in store.

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Because I think we all enjoy a little treat, don't we?

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But for her, more important than the money,

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has been the opportunity to remember the cousin

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who drifted apart from his family so many years ago.

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I'm so pleased that he's had a good life and it sounds to me

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as though Edward has had a very happy life in his work.

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So, I think that makes me feel contented to know.

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And I think his parents loved him so much

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that I think they would be very happy to know

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that Edward's had a good, happy life and fulfilled what he wanted to do.

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