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Robert Sproat chose to live alone in London

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and now the heir hunters are unravelling the mystery

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this Glaswegian author created around his own life.

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He was going away to university.

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That was it, off he went and we never saw him again.

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On another case, the search for heirs takes the hunt to Norfolk.

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It's another challenging day for the heir hunters.

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Coming up, one man's bravery

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in one of the most dangerous jobs of World War II.

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If the one who was the lead ship, if he suddenly blew up,

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you knew there was mines there, but who was it who was going to be next?

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We rediscover a lost art.

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Compositing was one of the main skills of the printing industry.

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Without compositing, you wouldn't have anything to print.

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And we'll be giving you details

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of the hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of estates

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that are still to be claimed.

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Could the heir hunters be knocking at your door?

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In Norfolk, Andrew Fraser is on his way to look at a property

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that forms part of an unclaimed estate his firm is investigating.

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I have been instructed by the administrating solicitors

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to help them and provide them with a probate valuation

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for both the contents and also the property itself.

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What Andrew discovers when he gets inside

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could have a huge bearing on the amount that is inherited by heirs.

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We have the typical, very musty smell we get

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when properties have been locked up and left for some time.

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Although it's only been a few months, it is certainly quite unique.

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The house, which is in a sleepy rural part of Norwich,

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was home to Philip Charles Kettle for many years.

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His mother and father lived opposite us

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previously and Philip moved in with them.

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Unfortunately, they passed away

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and Philip inherited the house and lived there ever since.

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Philip was always quite jolly, really pleasant to speak to.

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Always quite happy. Never seemed miserable in any way.

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If you were to see him walking down the road,

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he'd stop and say hello to you and ask how you were.

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After leaving school when he was 15,

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Philip went on to work as a newspaper compositor

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at local firm Eastern Counties Newspapers.

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Philip's character was outward going and he had quite a bit of fun.

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Sometimes he could be a little bit awkward, but can't we all?

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So, yeah, we got on well with Philip

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and I got on well with Philip.

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Philip took early retirement and, sadly,

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died on 24th of July 2013, aged just 56.

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He left no known family and seemingly made no will.

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Philip will definitely be missed

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because you always saw him in the street.

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He was such a jolly man and he would always have time to speak to you.

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It's quite sad knowing that when you come out in the morning that

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you're not just going to bump into him or say hello to him any more.

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Heir hunter Andrew is opening that his visit to Philip's house

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will help to establish the likely value of Philip's estate.

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If he's lucky, a thorough search of the house could uncover

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evidence of valuables or savings that might increase the case's worth

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by hundreds or even thousands of pounds.

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Or he could be heading for every heir hunter's worst nightmare -

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the discovery of a will that renders all their efforts useless.

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For now, his first job is to assess the likely value of the property.

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These places deteriorate fairly quickly when they've been left empty.

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Got a hole in the ceiling.

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The fact is the wall has got an awful lot of dampness in there

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that has caused the plaster to virtually fall off.

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Andrew is coming across signs of serious long-term neglect

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throughout the house.

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We clearly see that the house is in need of

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some quite significant repair.

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It's surprising we don't have major ceilings coming down

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in the kitchen area.

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We can see the felt roof has got holes in it.

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Together with a very overgrown garden.

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He's also on the lookout for any documentation to suggest

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Philip had any assets other than the house.

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I've found here his latest passport, I believe.

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Andrew's visit is just the latest stage

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in what has been a complex investigation.

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When the case first came to the company

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by solicitor referral six months ago,

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Fraser & Fraser case manager Ben Cornish was in charge.

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When we got the case, we looked a bit further,

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we found out where the deceased was living at the time of his death.

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We realised that the deceased owned a property

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and it was one of these cases

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that we were definitely going to have a look into.

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As they had Philip's last known address,

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this was their first port of call.

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When we start a case like this, we will contact the neighbours.

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They are usually good source of information about the deceased.

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We straightaway realised that the deceased lived with his parents

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up until their deaths and we also gleaned from them

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the fact that Philip was actually married.

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So, when we found out that Philip was married,

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we instantly had a look for a marriage record.

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We found one. We traced this individual.

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We realised that she had married for a second time. Spoke to her.

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She confirmed to us that she was divorced from Philip

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and that they had no children.

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And as they'd been divorced,

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this meant that Philip's ex-wife had no claim on his estate.

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The team then had to check for the next in line to inherit.

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We started to look for siblings of Philip, if there were any,

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whether they were still alive or, if they had passed away,

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whether they had any children.

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When we find Philip's birth record, we looked for his parents' marriage.

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The team established that John Benjamin Kettle married

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Patricia Anne Cork on 18 June 1955.

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Philip was born the following year.

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When we find the parents' marriage,

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we look for any siblings of the deceased.

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We could find none for Philip, so we knew that he was an only child.

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I think we're going to look at John Benjamin Kettle and his family.

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This meant that the team now had to trace any brothers or sisters

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Philip's parents might have had.

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Instantly, when we looked into the mother's family,

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we were made aware that she was an only child, and therefore

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there would be no descendants on this particular side.

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The team's only hope of heirs now rested on

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Philip's father's side of the family.

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Philip's father was John Kettle and,

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according to Philip's birth certificate,

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he worked in the printing trade.

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When John began his career in the newspaper business

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during the late 1940s and '50s,

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the printing industry was pulling itself out of post-war doldrums

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and Fleet Street and newspapers across the country

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were heading towards a golden age.

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The power of the presses was very much in evidence,

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as people picked up nearly all their knowledge of news

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and current affairs from the printed page.

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Both father and son worked as newspaper compositors,

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producing the same paper, the Eastern Evening News.

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Compositing was one of the main skills of the printing industry

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because without compositing, you wouldn't have anything to print.

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As a compositor, John was responsible for setting out

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all the text or copy that was to be printed

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using metal letters and symbols.

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They were then tightly bound to create a page,

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which was placed in a press

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and then inked to make the necessary impression on the paper.

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Usually, when you went in the printing industry,

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you followed in your father's footsteps or a relation.

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And that opened the door for you.

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Quite a few apprenticeships, you had to pay to take the apprenticeship.

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My father was a compositor and his father had to pay £100 premium

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before he could even start work.

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David worked side-by-side with John.

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I remember John. I worked with him for quite some time.

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And he was a fairly happy-go-lucky fella and he did his job

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and he had with him an air of authority because of his size.

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He was a decent person to work with, yes.

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David also worked with Philip during the 1970s and '80s.

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He followed in his father's footsteps.

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He was a compositor

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and he became a pagemaker like his father on the same paper.

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They all worked under pressure to get the newspapers out

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to a hungry public.

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In those days, newspapers were almost the sole form of information.

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A newsroom built up to a crescendo near to deadline time.

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Everything seemed to get faster.

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And with as many as 24 linotype machines all clattering away

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and all the little clicks and clatters built up into a deadline,

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then when the paper was put to bed, it went quiet.

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John and Philip would have found themselves

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working in the print industry during a boom period of the '70s and '80s.

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But it was also a time of huge change.

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With the advent of computing in the early '70s,

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several provincial newspapers in this country

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started up their own programme of computerisation.

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And it seems the industry was divided

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in how it received this new technology.

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In the provinces, the computerisation programme

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finished in the late 1980s

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and there wasn't as much controversy as there was in Wapping

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with the nationals.

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It was a stand-up fight between the unions and management.

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Despite the demise of the printing industry

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as John and Philip first knew it,

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those early working practices have left their own lasting impression.

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There's quite a few sayings come from the printing industry.

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One of them is "mind your Ps and Qs"

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and this is because a P and a Q

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are identical except they face different ways

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and it is easy to mix them up

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if your eye isn't trained to know that you looking at

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a mirror image.

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So, that is where that one comes from.

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And another saying is "upper and lower case".

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It comes from the fact that the cases,

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which are stored in racks called frames,

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when they were lifted out to use, they were in pairs.

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One of them was the capitals and it was put up here

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and that became upper case.

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And the other one is the small letters and it was put here

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and that became the lower case.

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And that is where the term comes from.

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Back on the hunt for Philip's heirs, Ben was now concentrating

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the team's research on his father John's side of the family.

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And there was no time to waste.

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A case like this is a pressure case, as we call them,

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because you know there is a major asset, there is a property.

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You know that other companies may be looking into it

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and they will also be trying their hardest to locate the heirs.

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At Philip's house in Norwich, Andrew has found some documents.

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Just looking through the papers here,

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I found details in relation to asking for early retirement pensions.

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This is the death certificate for Philip's father,

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John Benjamin Kettle, who died in 2004.

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When someone dies without leaving a will and with no known family,

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their name ends up on the Treasury Solicitor's list

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of unclaimed estates.

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But this list reveals very little of the deceased's life.

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In 2011, one name that appeared on it was Robert Sproat.

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It was picked up senior case manager Kevin Edmondson

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at heir hunting firm Hoopers.

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At first sight, it didn't look as if this estate

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was going to be of any great value, but after a bit of digging,

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we found out that Robert Sproat had left about £45,000.

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Obviously, this was worthwhile investigating and so,

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we started the work of trying to trace his heirs.

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And an initial exploration on the internet brought to light

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some immediate insight into Robert's story.

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We found a copy of a newspaper article online

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which mentioned that he had died from a fall

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and that there had been a coroner's inquest.

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The coroner ruled that Robert had died from an accidental head injury,

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thought to have been sustained when he fell while in his flat.

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At the time of his death,

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Robert lived in North London in sheltered accommodation.

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Marva was a fellow resident.

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I remember Robert.

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He was a very private person, tall, slim.

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Always clean and well-dressed.

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He wore his hair quite long but tidily.

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And when you'd pass him in the passage,

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he would just give a wave and say, "Hello, how are you?"

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From what I remember of Robert,

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he was a very highly intelligent person.

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And it seems he wasn't an easy man to get close to.

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He never sort of mixed with the tenants.

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For example, he never came into the lounge to have a cup of coffee.

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I never saw visitors visiting him.

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He was just a lonely person.

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Robert might have been an enigma to his neighbours,

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but the heir hunters' research was revealing more about this quiet man.

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The article also mentioned that he was from Glasgow

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and that he was a published author.

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The team discovered that in the 1980s, Robert had written two books.

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One, Chinese Whispers, was a novel about Genghis Khan.

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And the other, published in 1986, was a memorably entitled

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collection of short stories called Stunning The Punters.

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It was made up of nine different characters,

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each with their own story to tell.

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And little did Robert know, but his book would change the life

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of at least one person, actor George Dillon.

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It was 1988. I was an unemployed actor.

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I'd been unemployed for about a year.

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And I was looking for material to do a one-man show

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to give myself a showcase, to get an agent.

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And I had two stories already.

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I had one by Steven Berkoff and one by Dostoyevsky.

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But I needed a third.

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And I was looking at books returned today in the library

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for short stories

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and my eye fell on this title which said "Stunning The Punters".

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Brilliant! Brilliant title.

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I took the book off the shelf and looked at the cover

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and it was this cartoon of skinheads,

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which was brilliant, cos at the time I had a shaven head.

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So, I opened it up and I read the first line of the title story

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and it said...

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-GRAVELLY VOICE:

-"It's a rough old estate."

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Good first line.

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Turned to the last line, the last two lines, and it was...

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"Really strange.

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"By pretending something's never been said,

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"you can end up screaming it."

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Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

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Flicked through the story, it was all written in the first person.

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It was about skinheads. And it was just amazing.

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So, that became the title story and the linchpin

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of my first one-man show, Stunning The Punters And Other Stories.

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"Ten points!" I says to Spike.

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George continued to bring Robert's character to life

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for the next seven years.

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Only get the maximum for a pram...

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if the baby's still in it.

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Until he finally met the author at a performance in London.

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He was strange. He was a strange man.

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He was flamboyant, in one sense.

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I have the impression that he was actually quite a private man

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and quite a troubled man.

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I mean, he was intriguing. I wish I had got to know him better.

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Actor George isn't the only one

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who wishes he knew more about the author.

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The heir hunters' internet research

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might have revealed some insight into Robert's career,

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but when it came to his family,

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Kevin and the team needed to dig a bit deeper.

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The next step was to obtain a copy of Robert Sproat's death certificate

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and when we had this, we had his date of birth confirmed

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and his place of birth and it was 14 April 1944 in Glasgow.

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We then went on to obtain a copy of the birth certificate

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and this gave us the names of his parents -

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Alexander John Sproat and Elspeth Anne Sproat, formerly Forsyth.

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Having confirmed his parents, there was another immediate priority.

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We had to, first of all,

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ensure that he didn't have very close relations - a wife or children.

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We searched the records in England, Scotland and Wales

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for any possible marriage of Robert Sproat

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and we didn't find any record of marriage.

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Not only had Robert never married or had children,

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birth records showed that he was an only child.

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This meant the team had to expand the search

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to look for aunts, uncles and cousins

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on both his father's and mother's side.

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Looking into Robert's mother's side of the family,

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we first of all obtained Elspeth Forsyth's birth certificate.

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This confirmed her parents' names and we quickly found them

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on the 1911 census and we found that they'd had seven children.

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We continued our searches after the 1911 census

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and found that there were three more children born after Elspeth.

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The discovery that Robert's mother had nine brothers and sisters

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meant that this could be a huge family tree

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and entail enormous amounts of research.

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However, luckily for the team, they were able to narrow it down.

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We quite quickly found out that six of them had died without issue.

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We did, however, find out that sister Helen had married.

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Although they'd discovered that she had died in 1975,

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she had two children.

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The team were then able to contact her daughter, also called Helen.

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For Robert's cousin,

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the news that she was an heir came totally out of the blue.

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I got back from holiday on Valentine's Day

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and there was this handwritten note through the door

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saying my maiden name had been Thomas, which was very strange,

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so I just thought it was a bit of a wind-up,

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somebody looking for money or something.

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So, I just ignored it.

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And the next day,

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I had a letter which had all the details right in it.

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So, I'd spoken to my son and he said, "Don't sign anything!"

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And then I started to...

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And I couldn't think who it was at all.

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I did wonder did my mother have some kind of secret life

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before she met my dad?

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That was very strange cos it just wouldn't have happened.

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After discovering other cousins had also received similar letters,

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the family hit on the truth.

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We worked out it must be Rob Sproat.

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Then the penny dropped and I thought,

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well, that was quite sad, then, that we'd all missed

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not being able to go to his funeral or anything.

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But sadness at not being able to pay her respects

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was mixed with happier memories.

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A big joker. He loved The Goons and he would have all...

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Especially Peter Sellers. He was a master of Peter Sellers.

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And he and my dad would sort of bang off each other all the time.

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SHE LAUGHS

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They would go through some of The Goons more memorable moments

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and when we went down to Wales to visit,

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he would come with us if we went somewhere like Tenby.

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He was quite a joker.

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And, yeah, he was good company then.

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At 18, Robert won a scholarship

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to read Natural Sciences at Cambridge University.

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We were all incredibly impressed,

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but he was very bad at communicating.

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His mother always sent him off to Cambridge

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with a stamped addressed letter to post when he arrived

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so that she would know he'd got there safely.

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He did send her birthday cards and Christmas cards

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and he did send her the books when he wrote them, but otherwise,

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he was very bad at keeping in touch,

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which was sad for his mum.

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And it seems his study of the sciences quickly took a back-seat.

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He got in with all the people that enjoyed doing all the arty things,

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so he didn't bother going to lectures and things

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and only lasted a year, which was a bit sad,

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having got the scholarship in the first place.

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When Robert went on to become a published author,

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it was a chance for the family to catch up with something of his life,

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if only from a distance.

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I've enjoyed reading the books.

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So, the family knew about them.

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And I did write to him through the publishers.

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I did say how much I'd enjoyed them

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and there's some very funny things in them as well as the sad bits.

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It struck me that the personalities of all the male characters

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seemed to reflect the personalities of all my mum and Mum's sisters!

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Which was quite funny.

0:21:400:21:42

But I didn't get a reply.

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Altogether, the team are able to uncover eight beneficiaries

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on Robert's mother's side of the family, including Helen.

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But they still has to unlock his father's side.

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Every year in Britain, thousands of people

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get a surprise knock on the door from the heir hunters.

0:22:020:22:06

It's really nice to know there was someone else in the family out there.

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Probably would have liked to have met but never did.

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Being told of an unexpected inheritance

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can be very welcome news.

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If I get £50, I can go out for good meal and have a drink on Richard.

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And it can provide a priceless opportunity

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to connect with long-lost family members.

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It's lovely to think he's brought us all back together

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and I hope he's got comfort.

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But there are still thousands of unsolved cases

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on the Treasury Solicitor's Bona Vacantia list,

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where heirs needs to be found.

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Could you be one of them?

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Today, we've got details of two estates on the list

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that are yet to be claimed.

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The first case is...

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Otherwise known as Rex or Roy Patterson.

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Reginald was a widower, who died on...

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..aged 91.

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He was born on...

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And it is not known when he came to the UK.

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The name Patterson is of Scottish and Irish descent,

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meaning 'son of Patrick'.

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Could there still be family links to Reginald

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in either Scotland or Ireland?

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Is this name familiar to you?

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Do you have any ideas that could be the key to unlocking this estate?

0:23:280:23:32

Next, 71-year-old...

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Died on...

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He was a bachelor and had been born in Glasgow on...

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Peacock is a surname which first appears in Anglo-Saxon Durham

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in the fifth century.

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It was a name to describe someone who was concerned with their looks.

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What brought Daniel to Lincolnshire is unknown.

0:24:010:24:05

Could he still have relatives back in Scotland?

0:24:050:24:08

Does his name mean anything to you?

0:24:080:24:10

Could you be the beneficiary they're looking for?

0:24:100:24:13

If you think you may be related to either of these people,

0:24:130:24:16

you would need to make a claim on their estate

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via the Treasury Solicitor's office.

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The important point about making a claim

0:24:210:24:22

to the Treasury Solicitor's Department

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is to make sure you provide all the evidence we need -

0:24:240:24:27

the birth certificates, the death certificates -

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then all should be fine.

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If not, or if you're unhappy with the way we deal with the matter,

0:24:300:24:33

then by all means, raise that and we'll consider things afresh.

0:24:330:24:36

Once again, the names of the cases we are trying to solve

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with your help today are

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Reginald John Charles Patterson

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and Daniel James Peacock.

0:24:430:24:45

Perhaps you could be the next of kin.

0:24:450:24:48

If so, you could have thousands of pounds coming your way.

0:24:480:24:51

Heir hunter Ben Cornish and the team at Fraser & Fraser

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have been tracking down heirs to the estate

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of former newspaper printing man Philip Kettle.

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Having established that he had no siblings

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and his mother was an only child,

0:25:090:25:11

they have narrowed the search down to his father's side of the family.

0:25:110:25:15

So, when we were looking into the Kettle family tree,

0:25:150:25:17

we found out that the deceased's father had three siblings.

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They were all older.

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An older sister called Doris,

0:25:220:25:23

brother called Ronald who died in infancy,

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and a brother called Derek.

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Philip's uncle Derek was born in 1925.

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He'd grown up in the years between the world wars

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and was just old enough to see service in World War II.

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Aged 18, he became part of the crew of HMS Cynthia, a minesweeper.

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Minesweepers are the unsung heroes of the Second World War at sea.

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They are out there every single day, all day, all night,

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clearing mines, keeping the swept channels open

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so that Britain can continue to operate in the Second World War.

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Without minesweepers, Britain will lose the war.

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Sea mines have long been as a basic system of fighting in the ocean,

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both as a weapon of attack and as a defence around coastlines.

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Sea mines are a very simple defensive system

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and they come in three basic varieties in the Second World War.

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There's a classic round mine with horns on it

0:26:230:26:25

which you detonate by striking it.

0:26:250:26:27

They're more just under the water, so they hit the ship.

0:26:270:26:30

Then there are acoustic mines, which are set off by

0:26:300:26:33

the pressure of a vessel passing over the top of them.

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And finally, there are magnetic mines, which detonated by

0:26:360:26:40

the magnetic signature of an iron or steel vessel.

0:26:400:26:43

Like Philip's uncle Derek,

0:26:430:26:45

fisherman Charlie Harris served on a minesweeper.

0:26:450:26:48

Well, it was very, very dangerous

0:26:480:26:51

because these mines were dropped by aircraft or E-boats or whatever

0:26:510:26:57

during the day or night.

0:26:570:26:59

And you went out,

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you knew the convoy routes cos they were buoyed.

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They were like roads. You knew what roads you had to go down.

0:27:030:27:07

There would be four of you in line. You just used to go this -

0:27:070:27:10

one, one, one, one -

0:27:100:27:12

so you were covering an area like that, so you were sweeping.

0:27:120:27:18

You'd cover some many miles for that area

0:27:180:27:20

for the convoy to come steaming down.

0:27:200:27:23

But you didn't know where them mines were.

0:27:240:27:26

And you shot the gear, just blow them up or sweep them,

0:27:260:27:31

and you had to take a chance.

0:27:310:27:33

But if the one who was the lead ship, if anything,

0:27:340:27:37

if he suddenly blew up, you knew there was mines there,

0:27:370:27:41

but who was going to be next?

0:27:410:27:44

You didn't know.

0:27:440:27:45

Derek served on the HMS Cynthia, an American-built minesweeper

0:27:460:27:50

which joined the war in Europe at the end of 1943.

0:27:500:27:53

Approximately six months later, in June 1944,

0:27:540:27:57

Derek and his ship would have been part of

0:27:570:28:00

the biggest mine-clearing exercise in history.

0:28:000:28:02

He was involved in getting the troop ships across the Channel

0:28:040:28:07

for the D-Day landings on the Normandy beaches.

0:28:070:28:09

The Germans had laid immense fields

0:28:090:28:11

of contact, pressure and magnetic mines

0:28:110:28:15

to basically block of that coast, so there was a critical task.

0:28:150:28:19

They passed through a narrow gap in a minefield that had been swept

0:28:190:28:24

and marked out by the minesweepers.

0:28:240:28:26

So, you have to find them, sink them, mark the channel

0:28:260:28:29

and make sure everybody else can follow you.

0:28:290:28:31

It's very slow, it's not dramatic, it's not dynamic,

0:28:310:28:35

but it's very dangerous.

0:28:350:28:37

Nobody went down below. Only the engineers, who had to be down there.

0:28:380:28:42

I mean, everybody was on the deck all the time.

0:28:420:28:45

You only went below when you had to because you thought,

0:28:450:28:48

well, if anything happened, just have a chance to get away.

0:28:480:28:53

It's often forgotten that minesweeping at sea

0:28:540:28:57

is a problem of scale.

0:28:570:28:59

In the Channel, there were probably 100,000 mines

0:28:590:29:01

in between Britain and France,

0:29:010:29:03

so the D-Day minesweeping operation, it is not finding a few mines,

0:29:030:29:07

it is clearing a path through a barbed-wire forest of mines.

0:29:070:29:11

The need to be absolutely professional and committed,

0:29:110:29:15

start to finish, really is sapping.

0:29:150:29:18

It's going to take a lot out of people.

0:29:180:29:20

HMS Cynthia and her crew, including Derek,

0:29:240:29:27

continued to keep the path across the Channel clear of mines

0:29:270:29:30

as Allied troops and supplies followed the initial invasion force

0:29:300:29:34

across France and into Germany.

0:29:340:29:37

At the end of the war, there was another crucial task.

0:29:370:29:40

Her last big mission is to escort the King of Norway back to Oslo.

0:29:420:29:46

This means clearing a way

0:29:460:29:47

through the biggest German minefield of the lot in the Kattegat,

0:29:470:29:50

and it is very important the King of Norway

0:29:500:29:53

doesn't get wet on his way home.

0:29:530:29:55

So, this is a real high-water mark.

0:29:550:29:57

The Second World War in Europe ended in May 1945.

0:29:580:30:02

A lot of the navy is demobilised, but the minesweeper crews carry on.

0:30:020:30:06

They're still going in 1946, 1947,

0:30:060:30:08

because the sea lanes have to be reopened

0:30:080:30:10

the great ports have to be cleared, trade has to resume.

0:30:100:30:14

The North Sea has to be made safe.

0:30:140:30:16

The enemy is still out there.

0:30:160:30:17

The enemy is inert and he will still blow you up.

0:30:170:30:20

The most powerful memory of all

0:30:210:30:23

is when the war finished, that you survived.

0:30:230:30:26

That you were one of the ones who came out.

0:30:260:30:28

Anyone who went through five, six years of the actual war

0:30:280:30:33

never came out the same as they went in.

0:30:330:30:36

Derek survived the war and died in 2002.

0:30:360:30:40

When Ben discovered this,

0:30:400:30:41

it left only one of Philip's aunts to investigate.

0:30:410:30:44

Doris, his sister.

0:30:440:30:47

And we found a marriage for her,

0:30:470:30:49

found out that she had several children.

0:30:490:30:51

Philip's aunt Doris had four children.

0:30:510:30:54

One son died in 2011, but he left three daughters

0:30:540:30:58

who are also heirs.

0:30:580:30:59

Another of Doris's sons, Philip's cousin David, spent a lot

0:31:030:31:07

of time with Philip's family in his childhood, but later lost touch.

0:31:070:31:11

Like many of the relatives, he lives in Norwich.

0:31:110:31:14

Although I've not seen Philip for ten years, obviously, he is my cousin,

0:31:150:31:18

member of the family, and, yes, it did come as a complete shock,

0:31:180:31:23

to be absolutely honest.

0:31:230:31:25

The man was only 56 years old and

0:31:250:31:27

didn't really expect him to go so quick, at such a young age.

0:31:270:31:31

While I think Philip was a very quiet

0:31:330:31:35

and reserved man who did enjoy his own company,

0:31:350:31:39

I got on with him quite well. We used to go to the football occasionally.

0:31:390:31:43

He always had a slight smile on his face, especially after a nice pint.

0:31:430:31:46

Quiet but a fun-loving lad.

0:31:460:31:48

Philip was very close to his parents.

0:31:500:31:52

His mother died in 2002 and it seems life changed for Philip

0:31:520:31:56

when his father died.

0:31:560:31:58

When John passed away, it really did hit him hard

0:31:580:32:01

and I think he rather withdrew into his shell, unfortunately.

0:32:010:32:05

When something like that happens, yes, certainly,

0:32:050:32:09

it just put everything really into perspective on things.

0:32:090:32:13

I've given one or two things a little bit more perhaps serious

0:32:140:32:17

thought than I did prior to this.

0:32:170:32:19

For the heir hunters,

0:32:230:32:24

the one remaining question was the value of Philip's estate.

0:32:240:32:28

In Norwich, Andrew Fraser has been looking at his property

0:32:280:32:32

and contents to try and get a complete picture of its worth.

0:32:320:32:35

These Toby Jugs were at one time very fashionable

0:32:350:32:40

and a huge collector's item.

0:32:400:32:43

They're all Royal Dalton.

0:32:430:32:45

This is from 1987. This one's a 1958.

0:32:450:32:50

It seems there are several collections in the house,

0:32:500:32:53

each of which has to be photographed so that they can be assessed

0:32:530:32:57

and valued by experts.

0:32:570:32:58

But Andrew's search for assets isn't over yet.

0:33:000:33:03

I've found that in February of this year, 2013, some four months

0:33:040:33:12

before he died, he actually received a payment from one of his pensions.

0:33:120:33:18

Any money still held in Philip's bank account, along with other

0:33:180:33:22

assets that may be discovered, will be added to the value of the estate.

0:33:220:33:26

For today, though, Andrew's work is done

0:33:290:33:32

and it's been a successful visit.

0:33:320:33:34

A few weeks later, he and the team have estimated the estate is

0:33:350:33:38

worth around £150,000 to be shared between eight of Philip's cousins.

0:33:380:33:44

It's a good result for the team.

0:33:440:33:46

To solve this case is quite bittersweet, really.

0:33:470:33:49

It's quite sad that Philip died so young.

0:33:490:33:52

It's sad the fact that family were relatively quite close to him

0:33:520:33:56

but he just moved away, like families do,

0:33:560:33:58

and they just lose contact after a while.

0:33:580:34:00

But, you know, the saving grace is that some of the family

0:34:010:34:04

heirlooms that Philip had are now with family.

0:34:040:34:07

Following Andrew's visit to the property,

0:34:070:34:09

David has now also had the chance to go to Philip's house

0:34:090:34:12

and collect some of the belongings that are part of the inheritance.

0:34:120:34:16

I went down there with my sister and I got some of the Toby Jugs,

0:34:160:34:21

about 12 of them, actually.

0:34:210:34:23

We also found some plates that we took away

0:34:230:34:28

and, more importantly, a lot of photographs, family photographs,

0:34:280:34:32

some of which I'd not ever seen before.

0:34:320:34:34

At least now, when we look at them,

0:34:340:34:36

we can always remember the good times with Philip, John and Pat.

0:34:360:34:40

Senior manager Kevin Edmondson and the team at Hoopers traced the

0:34:470:34:51

ever-growing family tree of Robert Sproat, who died in London in 2011.

0:34:510:34:57

He'd published a book of short stories in the 1980s called

0:34:570:35:00

Stunning The Punters, one of which was adapted for the stage

0:35:000:35:03

by actor George Dillon.

0:35:030:35:06

He remembers the night Robert came to see his performance.

0:35:060:35:09

He was sitting there and I felt a little bit

0:35:090:35:11

resentful of the other people being there

0:35:110:35:13

because I wanted to meet him and talk to him

0:35:130:35:15

and I didn't really get much chance to talk to him.

0:35:150:35:18

He was quite reserved, as eccentric as I suspected from his photo.

0:35:180:35:21

And possibly quite troubled.

0:35:230:35:25

Despite their brief acquaintance,

0:35:250:35:27

George has a surprising keepsake from the author.

0:35:270:35:30

When I was thinking of doing Stunning The Punters

0:35:300:35:34

and contacted Robert about it, he sent me a copy of his next book.

0:35:340:35:39

It hadn't yet been published

0:35:390:35:40

and he wrote a dedication in the front of it.

0:35:400:35:42

And this is what he wrote.

0:35:420:35:44

"Dear George Dillon, this comes out officially on March 21st.

0:35:440:35:49

"Good luck with your project, Robert Sproat, March 9th, 1988."

0:35:490:35:54

This was an amazing act of generosity on his part and... Yeah.

0:35:540:36:00

Looking at it now, it's...

0:36:000:36:03

It's quite moving.

0:36:030:36:04

Having found heirs on his mother's side of the family,

0:36:090:36:12

the team were on the hunt to find any uncles, aunts and cousins

0:36:120:36:15

of Robert's who could be in line to inherit on his father's side.

0:36:150:36:19

We obtained a copy of Robert's birth certificate

0:36:190:36:21

and this showed that his father was a flight sergeant in the RAF.

0:36:210:36:26

The Royal Air Force was formed in 1918, so it was still

0:36:280:36:32

a relatively young service by the time of Robert's birth in 1944.

0:36:320:36:36

And for Robert's father, John Alexander, being a flight sergeant

0:36:370:36:41

in the midst of World War II was not a job for the faint-hearted.

0:36:410:36:46

Bomber Command, for example, was the most dangerous job in the

0:36:460:36:49

Forces at all during the war with half of their people killed in total.

0:36:490:36:53

Airfields, pre-Blitz, really, were being bombed on a daily basis,

0:36:530:36:57

so it was manic and it was scary.

0:36:570:36:59

John Alexander's role would have carried with it tremendous

0:37:000:37:04

responsibility.

0:37:040:37:05

A flight sergeant is a hugely important individual on the squadron.

0:37:050:37:08

The warrant officer is the man who is Mr Cool, he runs the place.

0:37:080:37:12

But the flight sergeant is the man who goes around

0:37:120:37:14

and makes sure it's done.

0:37:140:37:16

At that time, there was a particular

0:37:160:37:18

need to knock new recruits into shape.

0:37:180:37:20

A drill instructor on recruit training,

0:37:200:37:22

corporal or sergeant, but mostly the corporals in the '40s,

0:37:220:37:26

they lived in the barracks with the troops.

0:37:260:37:28

And their job, really, was to teach them to wash, shave,

0:37:280:37:32

press their kit, clean their stuff, look after their bedding,

0:37:320:37:36

look after all of their kit, to drill them, to be their counsellor,

0:37:360:37:40

to be their mother and also, to be their avenging angel should

0:37:400:37:44

they not perform to the required standards.

0:37:440:37:46

The sergeant would be a big stick over the corporals

0:37:460:37:49

and the flight sergeant would be a bigger stick, so when he turned up,

0:37:490:37:52

the same thing, the standards were expected to be better.

0:37:520:37:55

And Robert's father would have understood

0:37:550:37:57

the importance of a drill.

0:37:570:37:58

Military doesn't do people wandering about.

0:37:580:38:01

So, they need to know how to get from A to B properly.

0:38:010:38:05

But it's also to teach them to obey commands.

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They stand there and you will tell them what to do

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and they do it without question.

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Not used enough, in my opinion.

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And there's one timeless characteristic that shines through.

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All drill instructors have to be strict.

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The flight sergeant on the squadron would be ultra-strict.

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If a recruit ever had to go see the flight sergeant

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then it really only meant, you know, one or two, three things, really.

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He was either leaving or he was in serious trouble.

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He doesn't go to the flight sergeant for a pat on the head, generally.

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But could the power and discipline Robert's father

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used at work have spilled over into his home life?

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A drill instructor, yeah, you become a certain kind of person

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and that person applies standards.

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And you notice things that are wrong, always.

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And I am still the same now.

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I've stopped moaning about creases in my shirts

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because otherwise I have to iron them myself!

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So, I don't do that any more. But you notice that.

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You notice someone with a double crease in their shirt.

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You'll notice dust behind the door. It's still something that I notice.

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And bugs me.

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Robert's cousin and heir Helen recalls her impression of Robert's

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drill instructor father.

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I do remember he was very, very strict with Rob.

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It always struck me that he

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treated Rob like one of his recruits and, of course,

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they were living in married quarters,

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so they had to be very careful with all the furniture and fittings

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and things and Rob liked to fall off chairs and do daft things like that.

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And his dad would get very annoyed.

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Back in the office,

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the heir hunters needed to unravel

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Flight Sergeant John's family background.

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The next step was to find Robert's father's birth certificate,

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and we found that he was born on September 30th, 1912,

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in Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire.

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This confirmed his parents' names.

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We then looked on the 1911 census record

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and found that they had had three older children.

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At that date, John Alexander's mother was only 31 years of age,

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so we thought it would be quite possible that she

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would have had further children.

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And so, we undertook searches after the 1911 census

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and found that there were three more children born after John Alexander.

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This means he was one of a family of seven children.

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This meant that the heir hunters

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now had six branches on the tree to explore.

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We found out that one of his sisters died as a child.

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This meant there were five branches of the family to investigate.

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And we found that all the remaining five did have children.

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One of the branches was his sister, Ellen Rebecca Sproat,

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who married a Mr Darmody and had six children.

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The eldest child was called Rosalind.

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Robert's cousin Rosalind is one of five heirs

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born to Robert's aunt Helen.

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I received a phone call one day to tell me that he'd died.

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It was a shock and I was upset, I must admit.

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The last time I saw Robert, he must have been about 17.

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He was going away to university, so we all went to say goodbye

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and wish him well.

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And that was it. Off he went and we never saw him again

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or heard from him.

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I felt sad when I found out that he hadn't married,

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he had no children, so I don't really know

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what sort of life he had.

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I don't know whether he was outgoing or very lonely.

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These are the things you think about.

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And it would be nice to know if he was happy in his life.

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I was very proud to think that he'd had books published.

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That's not an easy thing to do.

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And I think he must been satisfied with his life.

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He was quite creative. Now I'll have to get the books.

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I'll have to have some reading.

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SHE LAUGHS

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Rosalind is one of 25 heirs to Robert's estate -

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17 on his father's side

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and eight on his mother's.

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Any money that we get from the inheritance, it would be lovely

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and I think we'd probably buy a new three-piece suite.

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I could do with one of those.

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I've had an idea that the rest of us on our side of the family

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would like to have a nice big family get-together

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just to have a sort of belated wake.

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It would be nice to do something in Rob's memory.

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