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-We've crossed the bridge -to Anglesey. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
-I feel quite at home here. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
-A warm welcome -to Dechrau Canu Dechrau Canmol. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
-# Soli Deo gloria | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
-# Soli Deo gloria | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
-# Soli Deo gloria # | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
-On this programme, I'll meet a man -who describes himself... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
-..as a chameleon of a minister. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
-I've been a teacher, then I was -a lecturer at Bangor Normal College. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-I then opened a business -on Anglesey. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
-For 25 years, -I've been a football referee. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
-We'll have a performance -by soprano Llio Evans... | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
-..in the home of the -Marquess of Anglesey, Plas Newydd. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
-And I'll be joined by -a familiar face to many of us... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
-..a farmer, deacon and former -Chair of Anglesey County Council. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
-I was raised in Llanbabo. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
-Everyone knew me as Bob Ty Newydd. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
-Now it's Bob Treban. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
-The singing comes from the cymanfa -held at Capel Moriah, Gwalchmai. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
-The first hymn -expresses Eleazar Roberts' desire... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
-..to live more like Jesus. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
-"O na bawn yn fwy tebyg -i Iesu Grist yn byw | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
-"Yn llwyr gysegru 'mywyd -i wasanaethu Duw." | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
-I've come to Treban Meurig, -Bryngwran... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-..to talk to the farmer -and councillor, Bob Parry. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
-I was raised in Llanbabo. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
-Everyone knew me as Bob Ty Newydd. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
-Now it's Bob Treban. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-You've now handed over the reins -to Gethin, your youngest son. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
-My son rears calves now. -He keeps them for about two years. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
-There are about 1,000 sheep here. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-Well. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
-They're curious. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
-If the large cattle -were in with the yearlings... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
-..you wouldn't be able -to get close to them. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
-These are curious. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
-He's weaned them off the bucket -about three months ago. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-They still remember the bucket. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-There's a small one there. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
-There's a small one there. - -Yes, five of them are younger. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-They'll be inside for a few months. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
-They'll be inside for a few months. - -Until the end of April. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-We've brought them in early -as it's been very wet. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
-Where are the bankers in here? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-This one, this one and those three -are the ones that'll make money. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
-Who makes the decisions -in terms of spending... | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
-..you or Gethin, or does your -grandson have his say now too? | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
-My grandson says too much! | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
-I let my son make the decisions. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
-Who used to advise you? | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-Who used to advise you? - -My father. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
-Were you a good listener? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-I'd say I was better -than my son is now... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
-..but I'm sure I was difficult too - -no use telling me anything. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
-Wisdom comes with age, as they say. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
-Wisdom comes with age, as they say. - -I say that too. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
-I'm proved right sometimes. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-They don't know the meaning of work! | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
-They don't know the meaning of work! - -They don't know they're born! | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-Things aren't always easy -in agriculture. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-How do you cope -with the difficulties? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-By taking the rough with the smooth. -There are good and bad years. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
-You have to control -your purse strings. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-You've been council leader -and been a leader of the Union. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
-But from where -do you receive guidance? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
-Through the chapel to begin with. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
-I used to go to Bethania Chapel, -Llanddeusant, when I was a child. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
-That's where -I started to take part. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-Everything developed slowly. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
-I think the guidance I received -from deacons helped me a great deal. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
-I remember I used to take part - -hymns, reading and praying. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
-The head deacon, John Roberts, -expected me to write the prayer. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
-One Sunday night -when I was ready to start praying... | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-..he was by my side... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-..and he grabbed the piece of paper -and took it off me. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
-I had no choice but to carry on. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
-And pray from your heart. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
-And pray from your heart. - -That's what I had to do. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-How do you think about -and explain your faith? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
-When you're in a hole, you get the -strength somehow to get out of it. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
-The chapel supports you. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
-You remember things you've learnt -years ago, such as verses. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
-Those verses are relevant -when you're in the dark, black hole. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-Is there a verse or a line from -a hymn you turn to occasionally? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
-The hymn I like translates as... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
-.."O my blessed Jesus, -only friend of my weak soul." | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
-I'm not a singer, -but I like reading hymns. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
-I think those two lines -are a support to everyone. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-Bob Parry, thank you for the chat -and for the welcome on the farm. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
-From Eben Fardd's dark hour... | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-..to the dark hour -of another hymn-writer, Ben Davies. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-His words came after -suffering many bereavements. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
-He lost his daughter when -she was three and his wife aged 30. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
-"Mi godaf f'egwan lef -at Iesu yn y nef | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
-"A rhoddaf bwys fy enaid dwys -i orffwys arno ef" | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
-Our soloist, Llio Evans, -is in the Marquess' Mansion. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
-In Plas Newydd, -accompanied by Annette Bryn Parri... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-..Llio is going to perform -Mozart's Alleluia. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:12:11 | 0:12:19 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:12:35 | 0:12:41 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
-# Aah | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
-# Aah | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-# Alleluia, Alleluia | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
-# Alleluia | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
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-My next guest describes himself -as a chameleon of a minister. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
-Reverend Huw John Hughes joins me -on the banks of the Menai... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
-..a wonderful location, -if I may say so. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
-This is heaven on earth. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Some would say that the man -originally from Mynydd Llandygai... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
-..has seen the light -and moved to Anglesey. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-I've moved from the mountain to -the sea. That's true of my ministry. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
-I began near the foot of Snowdonia -as a minister. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-I then moved to Moelfre. -Have you heard of the place? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
-I then moved from Anglesey to the -big city, Bangor, where I retired. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
-That's my career as a minister. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
-Why describe yourself -as a chameleon of a minister? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
-I've done other things. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
-I've been a teacher, then I was -a lecturer at The Normal College. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
-I then opened a business -on Anglesey, Pili Palas. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-And for 25 years, believe it or -not, I've been a football referee. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
-So you can see why I call myself -a bit of a chameleon. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
-This year, I'm celebrating -40 years in the ministry. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-I've been a minister -throughout that time. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-How do you look back -on that period in your ministry? | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
-It's been mixed, Nia. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
-There are things that one has done. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-I've a feeling that there are things -I would've liked to have done... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
-..but haven't achieved. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
-I believe in the ministry... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
-..where the Church -goes out into the community. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-We're too insular and introspective. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
-I've heard that the Church door -is open to everyone. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-Yes, but the people aren't coming. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
-So we have to go -out into the community. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-That's what Jesus did. -We should be among the people. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
-There must be a revolution. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-Why can't we hold a service -in a pub? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-There's a pub behind us, and this -is where the Sunday school was held. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
-Why can't we have a service -in a cafe or in a hall? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
-An opportunity for us -to come together around the table... | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
-..have a short service, -a prayer, hymn singing, a reading. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
-But have a discussion -to see what's the way forward... | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
-..in today's Wales. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-I'm sure your comments -will begin a debate. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
-Thank you for the chat. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
-A hymn from the popular poet, -Eifion Wyn, is next. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
-"Un fendith dyro im, -ni cheisiaf ddim ond hynny | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-"Cael gras i'th garu di tra bwy', -cael mwy o ras i'th garu" | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
-We finish with the hymn tune -Clawdd Madog... | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-..and the words of a sinner -amazed that forgiveness is possible. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-"Os gwelir fi, bechadur, -ryw ddydd ar ben fy nhaith | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-"Rhyfeddol fydd y canu -a newydd fydd yr iaith" | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
-I hope you've enjoyed the journey -to Anglesey... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
-..and that we'll have your company -next time. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-Until then, goodbye. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
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