Episode 5 Later... with Jools Holland

Thank you for joining us. I am thrilled to bits because it is

Kasabian. # I aint easy and I make you mad.

# Least I ain't sleazy. # I'm just trying to put the world

to out.

# Cos I got the feeling that I'm gonna keep you up all...

# Gonna keep you up all... # Gonna keep you up all night.

# The wrong men have the power. # I'm tired of taking orders.

# Coping with disorders. # The wrong men have the power.

# It's turning my milk sour. # Turning my milk sour.

# I aint easy and I make you mad. # Least I ain't sleazy.

# I'm just trying to put the world to rights.

# and if you want to I'll take you out.

# Cos I got the feeling that I'm gonna keep you up all night.

# I ain't easy and I ain't that bad. # No ryhme or reason.

# I'm just trying to set the world alight.

# You've got problems. # Well, so have I.

# I got the feeling I'm gonna keep you up all...

# Gonna keep you up all... # Gonna keep you up all night.

# There's cobras in the mosh pit. # Finally we lost it.

# Every day is brutal. # Now we're being watched by Google.

# Gotta keep it simple. # Sending out a signal.

# Everyone's on bugle. # Now we're being watched by Google.

# Being watched by Google. # Being watched by Google.

# I aint easy and I make you mad. # Least I ain't sleazy.

# I'm just trying to put the world to rights.

# And if you want to I'll take you out.

# Cos I got the feeling that I'm gonna keep you up all night.

# I ain't easy and I ain't that bad. # No rhyme or reason.

# I'm just trying to set the world alight.

# You've got problems. # Well, so have I.

# I got the feeling that I'm gonna keep you up all...

# Gonna keep you up all... # Gonna keep you up all...

# Gonna keep you up all night. # Gonna keep you up all...

# Gonna keep you up all night. Eez-eh! Thank you, Kasabian. Lovely

to have them on the show. We have a room packed full of amazing people

from all over the world, from Hudson Valley in New York we are going to

be welcoming Natalie Merchant. From London for the first time together

here in this room, Brian Eno and Karl Hyde. And most talked about and

tipped the top brand-new singer with amazing voice and guitar, George

Ezra from Bristol. A group from all over the world performing in London,

the Ibibio Sound Machine. And now, from Dallas, Texas, we welcome back

to the show, St Vincent. # Back to your seats.

# Get back. # Gnashing teeth.

# Ooh-ooh. # Oooh.

# I want all of your mind. # People turn the TV on.

# It looks just like a window. # People turn the TV on.

# It looks just like a window. # Digital witnesses.

# What's the point of even sleeping? # If I can't show it if you can't

see me. # What's the point of doing

anything? # This is no time for confessing.

# I want all of your mind. # People turn the TV on.

# It looks just like a window. # People turn the TV on.

# It looks just like a window. # Digital witnesses.

# What's the point of even sleeping? # If I can't show it if you can't

see me? # Watch me jump right off the London

Bridge. # This is no time for confessing.

# People turn the TV on and throw it out the window.

# Get back to your stare. # I care but I don't care.

# Oh, oh, oh. # Want all of your mind.

# Gimme all of your mind. # I want all of your mind.

# Gimme all of it. # Digital witnesses.

# What's the point of even sleeping? # If I can't show it if you can't

see me? # What's the point of doing

anything? # What's the point of even sleeping?

# So I stopped sleeping. # I stopped sleeping.

# Won't somebody sell me back to me? Thank you, St Vincent. Digital

Witness. I said this band were from all over. All over Nigeria, Brazil

and beyond. They are Ibibio Sound Machine.

# One, two, three, four, let's dance.

# One, two, three, four, let's dance.

# One, two, three, four, let's dance.

# One, two, three, four, let's dance.

Ibibio Sound Machine! On this show, next up, we love collaborators, and

now we have dance music pioneer Carl Hyde collaborating with the

legendary producer Brian Eno. So big it up for Brian Eno and Carl Hyde!

MUSIC: Daddy's Car # My house in Budapest.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Brian Eno, Carl Hyde. I shall be

discussing various things with both of them later on in the show. One

thing I should be discussing is what makes a great record producer

because of course Brian is one. Have our next artists done it themselves?

Let's find out when we discuss things with Kasabian! Welcome to the

show. Great to have you back here. Thank you. Marvellous new record.

Just about to come out any minute now. The first thing I've got to ask

about is the title, 48 Spots 13. Pf What is that? It's the sum of all

its parts. It's that simple. We kept everything direct on this record,

including the title. One word for each song. Everything was the vision

from the start, it was to keep everything. Three minutes, is that

the perfect song? It's easy, yes. I just agree with what he says!

What a great band! Do the band all get on, do you have

a nice time together? We do have a nice time together, don't we? Yes,

we are a good old-fashioned gang. I suppose this show is a bit like

being in The Beano. Yes. You did everything in the studio, does that

affect how you do things? Every record from the first thing has been

done in a bedroom. The studio that I have now at shoal a glorified

bedroom. Is there a bed in there? There is next door. Yes,

bedroom. Is there a bed in there? of like that, but it's just

bedroom. Is there a bed in there? it's got an old '70s desk, it's like

a museum really. I don't feel comfortable in studios, always been

frightened of the red light. Take it to stages, do the demos, then finish

it off. That's a great way of doing it. Tips for a home studio? Warn

your neighbours? Sound proofing. Air conditioning. It's ten years since

you released your first conditioning. It's ten years since

because of the nature to have show and it's television, we are

because of the nature to have show zoom back with time travel. Wow.

Yes. 2004 all over again.

# We got our backs to the wall # Come on

# Watch out # Come on

# We got our backs to the wall... Beautiful.

APPLAUSE Beautiful.

Watching that back's nice seeing that.

We couldn't use the word "LSD" on Top of the Pops, they had a problem

with it, referring to acid trips and that, they said they were going to

ban us all, that's why I had it on my hand. You can say it here as much

as you like. We are much more easy going here. Thank you. That's ten

years ago when you were first starting. Now you are going to be

headlining on the pyramid stage at Glastonbury. Do you approach

performing live differently now Glastonbury. Do you approach

years later? You learn so much. When you have been doing it for so long,

you just learn so much. you have been doing it for so long,

Glastonbury gig, we'd be training for that, you know.

Glastonbury gig, we'd be training you are still based in Leicester and

I like Leicester very much. Yes. I really do, I go there quite a bit

and I like the pubs there, I go there quite a bit. We went in

Engelbert Humperdinck's pub? He's got one in his house, I've never

been. It's only a few minutes down the road from my house, he's never

invited us in. I'm sure the road from my house, he's never

But there are in Leicester, because I walked around them one evening,

some fantastics pubs, because I like I walked around them one evening,

a pub that hasn't changed for years. Leicester has some of the best ones.

Do you go to the Shakespeare? I've never been in! I swear. So glad you

pointed that out. They'll be loving that now.

Now you have said that, that now.

going to shout about that. It's that now.

marvellous to have you both here and that now.

we shall look forward to hearing more from this superb record later

on. APPLAUSE

Our next artist is a marvellous brand-new person who lots of people

are talking about and he's on lots of festivals this year. From

Bristol, please welcome George Ezra. My house in Budapest #

My hidden treasure chest. # Golden grand piano.

# My beautiful Castillo. # For you.

# You. # I'd leave it all.

# My acres of a land. # I have achieved.

# It may be hard for you to Stop and believe.

# But for you. # You.

# I'd Leave it all. # Give me one good reason why I

should never make a change. # And baby if you hold me then all

of this will go away. # My many artifacts.

# The list goes on. # If you just say the words I'll up

and run. # Oh, to you.

# You. # I'd leave it all.

# Give me one good reason why I should never make a change.

# And baby if you hold me then all of this will go away.

# Give me one good reason why I should never make a change.

# And baby if you hold me then all of this will go away.

# My friends and family, they don't understand.

# They fear they'd lose so much if you took my hand.

# But, for you. # You.

# I'd lose it all. # But for you

# You # I'd lose it all #

Give me one good reason why I should never make a change.

# And baby if you hold me then all of this will go away.

# Give me one good reason why I should never make a change.

# And baby if you hold me then all of this will go away.

# My house in Budapest. # My hidden treasure chest.

# Golden grand piano. # My beautiful Castillo.

# For you. # You.

# I'd leave it all.? # Yeah, yeah.

# For you # Ooh you

# You # I'd leave it all... #

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE #

Yeah, yeah. # Yeah, yeah.

# Get him a message, a message from me.

# I'm caught up in love and I'm in ecstasy.

# What can I do now when nothing's the same?

# And all that I know I wanna do it again.

# Well, tell me now. # Life is so simple when you are

with me. # Cos when we're together I'm in

ecstasy. # I'm in ecstasy.

# Yeah. # I'm in ecstasy.

# Here we go again. # Yeah, yeah.

# All you pretty things get on board this mothership.

# All you got to do is be ready for action, baby.

# Don't think I'm twisted as a matter of fact.

# Welcome you now to the second act. # Where I fight off robots and the

men in the suits. # Wear out the soles of your monkey

boots. # Well, tell me now.

# Can't get enough of the sunshine. # Can't get enough of the moonlight.

# And all the colours that are coming on strong.

# Trying to hold on, trying to hold on.

# Can't get enough of the oceans. # Can't get enough of the mantra.

# All we will ever feel is ecstasy. # We're in ecstasy.

# Yeah. # We're in ecstasy.

# Here we go again. # Yeah, yeah.

# All you pretty things get on board this mothership.

# All you got to do is be ready for action, baby.

# Well, tell me now. # Can't get enough of the sunshine.

# Well, tell me now # Can't get enough of the sunshine #

Can't get enough of the moonlight. # And all the colours that are

coming on strong. # Trying to hold on, trying to hold

on. # Can't get enough of the oceans.

# Can't get enough of the mantra. # All we will ever feel is ecstasy.

# We're in ecstasy. # We're in ecstasy.

# Yeah, everybody go. # Yeah, yeah.

# All you pretty things get on board this mothership.

# Yeah. # All you got to do is be ready for

# Ready for action, baby. # Ready for action, baby.

48: 13. That is their LP. Thank you, Kasabian. That was Bumblebee. And

now sounding tremendous from Dallas, St Vincent.

# Prince Johnny, you're kind but you're not simple.

# by now I think I know the difference.

# You wanna be a son of someone. # Remember the time we went and

snorted. # That piece of the Berlin Wall that

you'd extorted. # That piece of the Berlin Wall that

# And we had such a laugh of it. # Prostrate on my carpet.

# You traced the Andes with your index.

# And bragged of when and where and who you gonna bed next.

# All with sons of someones. # Saw you pray to all to make you a

real boy. # Saw you pray to all to make you a

real boy. # Prince Johnny, you're kind but do

be careful. # Prince Johnny, you're kind but do

# by now I know just when to clear.

# When all your friends and acolytes are holding court.

# In bathroom stalls. are holding court.

# Where you pray to all to make you a real boy.

# Saw you pray to all to make you a real boy.

# But honey don't mistake my affection.

# For another spit-and-penny style redemption.

# Cos we're all sons of someones. # We're all sons of someones.

# I wanna mean more than I mean to you.

# I wanna mean more than I meant to him.

# So I pray to all to make me a real girl.

# So I pray to all to make me a real girl.

# So I pray... The wonderful St Vincent with Prince

Johnny. Excellent. So now I am delighted to welcome two men that

were making music and collaborating beautifully, Brian Eno and Karl

Hyde. Welcome to the show, gentlemen. The first question I have

to ask is what made you decide that he wanted to collaborate together?

Boredom. Easily done. It started about 20 years ago. We were on the

plane journey together. We had never met before. We started talking and

realised we thought about music and pretty much the same way and then

nothing happened for about 14 years. As is often the way. And then I had

a project in Sydney at the Sydney Opera House and I asked him if he

would like to be part of that. Though we did that first thing

together about five years ago. When you say you met on a plane, a chance

encounter, we might say, but when you found you had things in common,

did you both go to art school, for instance? Yes. Did that mean you

approached music in a different way? Yes, I think we do see things

in a different way to people who have not had that bizarre

upbringing. It is letting your mind going to places that are likely. We

went on courses that were quite radical in their day, the product of

a bizarre mind experiment! And you came from a dance music background.

Underworld, you went into a different zone. It had a great pulse

to it. There is a pulse in what you are doing so I can hear elements of

dance music but also elements of contemporary classical music. Maybe

that is just me. We both love rhythm -based music. We talked in the early

days of our love of Afro beats and bands that we loved back then and

Steve Wright, and how through funk it fed into what became rave

culture, the recycling of the repetitive beat. It was a very

natural place for us to be. I walked into the student one day to do

something different. -- the studio. And Brown said what about this? It

was like a meeting of minds coming from the same place. Brian, you have

produced lots of amazing artists, like Coldplay. Did you produce this

or get someone to produce you? Well, I produced with Fred Gibson

who is in the band here, the tall one. So Fred and I produced the

record. In fact I did appreciate having somebody producing me. I

usually produce myself and of course it is not always the best thing to

do. People at home will ask what a producer does. It is a very

difficult job to define because it really covers a lot of territory.

Some famous producers in the 70s, really all they did was take bags of

drugs into the studio! That is one extreme. I am not talking about...

Then there are other people called producers like Phil Specter who

effectively invented the music and get people into doing it for them. I

am not at either end of that spectrum. This people are an active

Junius. -- these people are an act of genius. They have cropped up from

time to time. These are oblique strategies. I want you to take one

and see if we can try and follow. What have you got? Look closely at

the most embarrassing details and amplify them. I am quite good at

that. I have made a career out of that. Look at the most embarrassing

details and amplify them. I will just check that my flies are done

up! They seem to be. I shall amplify that moment and thank Brian Eno and

Karl Hyde! I am allowed and amplified. Thank you, Brian Eno and

Karl Hyde. From Hudson Valley in New York, she is a wonderful poet, she

is super and she is here, it is Natalie Merchant.

# Going down picking when it's harvest time.

# Gonna get my share. # Gonna get what's mine for me.

# Sun is a-blazing down but I don't mind.

# I'm picking, I'm digging, it's harvest time for me.

# When I get my little eye on it. # When I get my little mind on it

you best believe. # Ole sweet tooth aching in my head.

# Gonna fill my belly to the brim, oh yes indeed!

# Hive is a-buzzing in a hollow tree.

# And I don't care if I gotta kill a little honeybee.

# When I get my little eye on it. # When I get my little mind on it,

you best believe. # Oh my, my, my, my.

# It's all coming to me. # Gonna get what's mine.

# And wild horses couldn't keep it from me.

# Papa says I'm a golden child. # And the whole world's gonna fall

at my feet. # And the whole world's gonna fall

# It's all coming to me. # And the whole world's gonna fall

# Pumpin' and a-suckin' till the well is dry.

# Nobody's booming in these busted times like me.

# Down in Texas where the cattle don't roam.

# Down in Texas where the cattle # Oil is a-dripping and the savings

and loans, they bleed. # When I get my little eye on it,

when I get my little mind on it, you best believe.

# Oh my, my, my, my. # It's all coming to me.

# Papa came along and he shook the tree.

# Down came a bushel and a peck for me.

# Papa shooed away all the honeybees.

# Papa dug a well and it flowed for me.

# Papa caught the motherload fish for me.

# Papa put a skillet in the flame to fry.

# Papa filled this little silver spoon of mine.

# Papa said the Lord took a shine to me.

# Papa said I gotta set the whole world free.

# Whole world free, whole world free.

# Ooh. Papa said how it's gonna be. Jingle. Timing. Numbers, diamond.

Voltage. Heli. Clouds. Free. Summer. Night.

Grass. Niceness. Dreaming. Bush. Silence. Cars. Dancing. Chess.

Landscape. Pylons. Sun. Moon, drones.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Eno and Hyde. Witness. Before that,

we enjoyed Natalie Merchant. Back to this extraordinary collective over

here formed in London, from all parts of the world, Nigeria, Brazil,

the lot, all over. They are Ibibio Sound Machine!

# Oh, what an ordinary day.

# Take out the garbage, masturbate. # I'm still holding for the laugh.

# The dogs will bark so let them bark.

# The birds will cry, I'll let them cry.

# Here's my report from the edge. # Like a birth in reverse.

# What I saw through the blinds. # You could say that I'm saying

phenomenal lies. # On the cosmic eternity.

# Party line was a birth in reverse in America.

# This tune will hum me through the war.

# This tune will hum me through the war #

Laugh all you want but I want more. # Cos what I'm swearing I never

sworn before. # Like a birth in reverse.

# What I saw through the blinds. # You could say that I'm saying

phenomenal lies on the cosmic eternity.

# Party line was a birth in reverse in America.

# Like a birth in reverse. # What I saw through the blinds.

# You could say that I'm saying phenomenal lies on the cosmic

eternity. # Party line was a birth in reverse

in America.? # Yeah, yeah.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Birth in Reverse.

St Vincent! Before that, we enjoyed Ibibio Sound Machine.

APPLAUSE As our programme draws to its later

moments, we are delighted to have back over here, Kasabian!

# Stevie. # Where you going with that gun?

# Who you wanna shoot down? # Who you trying to kid?

# You've been watching too much TV. # It's playing with your memories.

# It's trying to break your heart. # Just calm down.

# Take your medication. # It numbs you to the world.

# Not my world. # And all the kids they say.

# Live to fight another day. # Live to fight again.

# And all the kids they say. # Live to fight another day.

# Live to fight again, again, again. # It's no life.

# Underneath your finger. # Dreamt a little bigger.

# I'm sick and tired of this. # If you show us what we can't have.

# What do you expect when we take it back from you?

# Cos it's no joke, no joke. # I wanna open up your eyes wide.

# Eyes wide. # I feel it coming but you can't

hide. # Can't hide.

# I wanna make you see light. # And all the kids they say.

# Live to fight another day. # Live to fight again.

# And all the kids they say. # Live to fight another day.

# Live to fight again, again, again, again.

# And the ordinary people. # Living ordinary lives.

# There's more than just excuses. # I see the fire in your eyes.

# But you knew this all already. # It comes as no surprise.

# It's time to push things forward. # Cos there's no way back.

# Yeah, there's no way back now. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Thank you, Kasabian! Stevie. Look at the website, you can

see them in 2006. We'll be back on Tuesday night at 10 o'clock with

Police, Chrissie Hind, Ed Sheeran and much, much more. But now, I

would like to invite Kasabian if you have got a couple of chords around

the D area... Yeah. I'd like to thank all of our

guests. Thank you, Kasabian. Thank you George Ezra.

Thank you Ibibio Sound Machine. Thank you, St Vincent.

Thank you, Natalie Merchant. Thank you, Brian Eno. And Carl Hyde.

Thank you for being you.