Episode 2 Later... with Jools Holland

Welcome to another evening. Let's begin with the delightful and

wonderful Madness. # Woe betide you if you

wander from God's plan # Square shouldered,

straight as a die # The righteous truth,

he never tell you no lies # He's heading off up

the wrong side of town # Head of the table

at the Rotary club # Never unsure of which

shoulders he should rub # Heading off under

the wrong side of town # You're gonna do, you're

gonna do yourself in # You're gonna do, you're

gonna do yourself in CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

The whole studio quakes with excitement at the legendary Madness

in our midst. But wait, it is not just Madness. There is much more.

Are you ready? Yes, I hope so. From north West killed there in Ireland,

the Divine Comedy. From Sussex, a man with an amazing voice, Rag 'N'

Bone Man. How blessed we are this evening to be in the same studio as

this man from Columbia, Maryland, Gallant. Beautiful songs, beautiful

person, Beth Orton. And now, he is dazzling from Wimbledon, Jamie T.

# Always in the heart beat a friend of mine

# New York, New York in a hot, hot summer

# Leaving the place low all of the time

# I just got my heart broke home in the winter

# Oh no, he said, Paul laugh and a cry

# Don't ever tell them the old broke record

# They won't understand or even know of this crime

# I wait on a long time friend undercovers

# Doesn't matter how far in a bus I travel

# I still feel the twist and the turn of mean time

# I'm not gonna call her a thief or whatever

# Breaking in the back doors of my mind

# You look just like my old young lover

# I relive the past in a last fast find

# Metro get ya let's go Tescoland

# I was just a fool too singing a new low

# What's new I've fallen from my old high street

# Bass can get you though, I'm broader than Broadway

# Broader than Broadway in my own defeat

# Love to sail away like a rolling stone

# Every plan I make's meant to take me further away

# But I always end up back at home

# I guess it's hard for an Englishman

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Thank you, Jamie T. You may have

seen our next guest with Elton John earlier in the week playing a couple

of songs. He is now going to sing a song from his new album, Ology. We

welcome, Gallant. # I'm a headless horseman

on quilted sand dunes # With my neck wide

open, I pray for refuge # Cause since I've been found I've

been living a life in cages # Withering down to

the champagne quicksand # Wrestling doubt I've been

dragging around for ages # I tried to let it drain

but my veins are hopeless # Cause I loved in cold

blood and got used to it # But I'm shaking I need it

like bourbon in my coffee cup # I'm a tritone bible

with misprint logic # I count lunar cycles

with faithless prophets # Cause since I've been found I've

been living a life in cages # Withering down to

the champagne quicksand # Wrestling doubt I've been

dragging around for ages # I tried to let it drain

but my veins are hopeless # Cause I loved in cold

blood and got used to it # But I'm shaking, I need it

like bourbon in my coffee cup # I'm just another

stone on broken walls # Racing the winds

in a hurricane # I've been kicking

these rocks in a river # And they've been sinking

low, low, low, low, low # Oh they've been going low,

low, low, low, low # Cause I loved in cold

blood and got used to it # But I'm shaking, I need it

like bourbon in my coffee cup Gallant. Looking so lovely. Look at

this beautiful array of people. Amazing artists in every corner, and

this corner is no exception. The next artist has a wonderful new

record called Kidsticks. We welcome Beth Orton.

# You got a certain way I swear of sticking it in

# Even though you only ever lose or you win

# I always said I'd wait and wait and wait just to see

# But I've been waiting here since 1973

# Looking back in time right now to 72

# I remember all the stupid things we'd do

# Sitting round and speeding like it's 79

# There was always somewhere else I had to be

# Looking below, well, it changed my dreams

# And now nothing is quite what it seems

# You got a certain way I swear

# I always said I'd wait and wait and wait just to see

# I've been waiting here since 1973

You have a marvellous record out, Can't Touch Us Now, about to come

out. Very good title, but who can't touch you now? The authorities, you

know. There is a big file marked close shaves, and we pretty much

filled it up. It is a tongue in cheek thing. Our saxophone player

wrote it and he could tell you more, but I see it as, we have been going

so long now that we have created our own kind of thing, without sounding

arrogant. We can kind of do what we like, without record companies or

any of the rest of that stuff, not that we don't love our record

company. And you have made this new record, but it might -- it must be

quite hard getting all of you together because I happen to know

that you drink in completely different pubs. So how do you get

together and make a record? We know it's time to meet back at

the Mad Cavendish. Reconverge at the Mad Cave. The elderly nice butler

this time washings it Liam Watson, producerer The White Stripes came in

to help? Yes. We have been doing interesting recording with Toerag.

Liam Watson an interesting, Cha and two other producers. We were trying

to get back to the basics of what we liked about making music in the

first place. Playing together, firstly. One. It seems to have gone

out of fashion. Rule one. Rule one. Yes. Two? Enjoying it. Three? ? Not

spending too much time in the flipping Studio. Four? Enjoying it

more. Then five, all going to the same pub together when you've

finished. Yes. Five showbusiness golden tips. Yes. Thank you very

much for those. You have also, we last week sadly a great legend,

Prince Buster, was he a big influence on Madness. I would like

to equate it without being funny about his death. Like the Monty

Python's Roman skech. What did he do are for us? Our name, our album

title. First hit single, our second hit single. What did he do for us. I

liked Prince Buster a lot. Yeah. We have a clip in Jamaica. One of the

earliest clip. I had my people scouring every archive. Is from

1964. I would like to share it with you and the public.

# Until I'm wrinkled old grey #

All around heaven all day # So don't you hear me...

# Oh, yes kchl Prince Buster. What did he ever do for us He enjoyed

himself. He did. There was a very important element in... A time when

those people were still around in the 60s who were inspiring them like

young fellas in the 70s. Who were some of the other great Jamaican

artists? So many, Jools. We had the fortune, we did a gig in Clapham

Common. Desmond Decker. So many, Jimmy Cliff. Millions of them. A lot

of those guys were struggling when we made our records. Not because of

us The Specials and UB40. They got the recognition that they missed out

on first time round. I'm asking all the artists on the show whether you

are spontaneous or fully rehearsed. Which would you cat gries yourself

within? I I'm spontaneous. Excellent. Thank you very much. For

answering the question fully and honestly. This is Rag'n'Bone Man

have you heard him? Great. He has an amazing voice. We recorded a song

which I don't think made it on the alm called Rag'n'Bone Man, I'm

hoping it's homage to you. You can have it. It's not bad. You can have

it if you want. I'm sure that is what ire vine Berlin said to

everybody. You will next sing Herbert Which may or may not be a

true story about an unfortunate that happened at somebody else's wedding.

With a bit of a Herbert. To name no names. Thank you very much. The

legendary Suggs. Thank you. Now to in a seamless way to The Divine

Comedy. # So many heartbreaks

# So little time # Too many tragedies

# Too many crimes # Put on your body armour

# Prepare your lull byes # Cos there is no-one else, gonna

put it right # To rescue down the streets and

alleyways # Passed the Chinese takeaways. To

the rescue # Through the wind and driving rain

# To the rescue To the rescue # When the world won't understand

the Government's got other plans. Take the law into your hands

# To the rescue #

Got a vigilante #

Sleeping had my bed # I looked for Marilyn

# Yes, I did #

But I'm much behind you # Where ever you may go

# And I'm more proud of you

# Than you can ever know # To the rescue

# Through the know and freezing rain # Down deserted country lanes

# To the rescue # Round-the-world and back again

# To the rescue # To the rescue

# Taking the forgotten ones # The big and small, the old and

young # To the rescue

# When nobody else will come # You'll come to the rescue

# To the rescue # Da, da, da

# Ah, ah, ah... #

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. # She was further than her father,

but I was really rather partial # Partial to the was

she took her stand # I subtely tried to

push past her old man # I felt like I'd walked

into a brick wall # He menacingly whispered,

listen, sonny Jim # Stop now or believe

me you will fall # who'd become a wealthy hotelier,

before he got the calling # There's a big fat bloke

trying to do me in, # He's chasing me round

with an old shotgun # Holding forth and

splendidly well oiled # Of have mine will be

suliied or despoiled # My princess made of sherbert

and lavender my cupcake cookatchoo # My hopes were growin getting

dimmer, so I grabbed her # Oh, she was the

preacher's daughter # And I really didn't oughta

taken her and done what I have done # He wants to take me to the

cleaners for previous misdemeanors # And get me up the aisle

with his shotgun # There's a big fat

lump trying to do me in # He's chasing me round

with an old shotgun # There's a big fat

bloke trying to do me in # He's chasing me round

with a sawn-off shotgun Thank you, Madness. Before that,

what a lovely song that was from the Divine Comedy. Now, we are going to

enjoy a sensational new artist whose voice I just love. For the first

time, we are delighted to welcome Rag 'N' Bone Man.

# But I'm only human after all

# Some people got the real problems

# Some people think I can solve them

# Oh, some people got the real problems

# Some people think I can solve them

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE The

wonderful, amazing voice of Rag 'N' Bone Man. From his album which will

be out very soon. A lot of superb artists this evening. Let's enjoy

another. We welcome back Beth Orton. # If I were a wave

you'd have caught me # If you were the sea you'd not turn

your back on me # I'd shake your fury

right out off of me # I was crying out for you,

before I ever knew # Crying out to you,

breathe me in # I was crying out

for you, before I ever knew # When I am a sound,

I was twisting out loud # Shake that fury

right on out to sea # I was crying out for you,

before I ever knew # Crying out to you,

breathe me in # I was crying out for you,

before I ever knew # And all in all

what the sea forgets # All in all remember not

to forget # To shake the fury

right out off of me # This gravity hurts when you know

the truth # And I take the blame

for the both of us # But I can't lift

this on my own # Call me anxious,

call me broke # But I can't lift

this on my own # You tried your best,

is it ever enough # When it's

already dragging me down, down? # Call me anxious,

call me broke # But I can't lift

this on my own # Call me anxious,

call me broke # But I can't lift

this on my own # When it's

already dragging me down, down? CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

The sensational Gallant. I liked the unresolved chord at the end. Weight

In Gold. Before that, Beth Orton. Now, for more chat, with no

complimentary drinks or snacks. It is Neil Hannon. So nice to have you

here. Lovely to be back. I thought you were shaking my hand. I was

shaking my hand, but I was showing we had nothing to give you except a

handshake. I love that song earlier. The Divine Comedy has been on the

back burner for about six years, doing different things. I have done

a couple of strange, dark, chamber operas. One for the wail opera

house. I always think I have rather bitten off more than I can chew. --

one for the Royal Opera house. That is a huge thing to do. Aid would be

if it was a proper one. It was half an hour. You have to write out for a

symphony orchestra. Yes, in my ProTools way. It is sort of

cheating, but I write all the notes. And then the conductor has to

massage it into some dynamic shape. It is quite a thing to do. You are

back together with the Divine Comedy with this new record, Foreverland.

What made you decide to use this mode for your music? The Divine

Comedy is the term that I use really for me when I am just doing what I

want, you know. I like the extraneous projects, but I like

coming back and nobody telling me what to do. And letting my magic

nation run riot. You first came on this show in 1998. You performed

your very famous track, National Express, which we have a clip of.

Out of interest, are you an enthusiast of buses and coaches? No.

No further questions. # What they see inside

# # All

APPLAUSE. Very good. I think I have to give Madness their do yous,

really. They had a massive influence on me when I was a kid -- dues. Can

Complete Madness was my favourite record. I listened to it

back-to-back. Songwriting genius. They are giving you gentle words of

encouragement. "Go on son." I will translate. That means, thank you so

much, we are very grateful for those kied remarks. The pleasure is all

mine. They are great. You have done music for television, films, all

sort of things. If a letter were to come through the door, drop down

there today, there was an offer of doing something interest that you

longed to do and never thought of it, what would it be, do you think.

What would you love to do that you haven't been asked to do Oh, God.

It's a tricky question. I should have asked you before. Write a song

for Nancy Sinatra. Off the top of my head. Maybe she is watching this

show? Yes. Can I put in Petula Clarke as well. Maybe she is

watching this show. Any of the great 60s song stresses. I want to be Bert

Bacharach. I think you are getting close. I'm doing a survey with

everybody. Are you super rehearsed or spontaneous most of the time? I'm

definitely not spontaneous. I'm kind of moderately rehearsed. How about

you, Rag'n'Bone Man rehearsed or upon stainious? Spontaneous. You

look it. Thank you very much. Great how people work in different ways

and creating the same thing. What is the next song you are going to play

for us? Howe Can You Leave Me On My own. How can your other half leave

you for a couple of days and you fall apart. Is that what happens to

you. Pretty much. Can you not cook or anything? I can cook my favourite

meal. Two fried eggs and fried bread. Good on the frying. I'm an

Ulsterman. Always two fried eggs? If the chickens are feeling friendly.

We look forward to hearing your son-in-lawing in a moment. Thank you

very much for joining us. Neil Hannon from The Divine Comedy.

Remarkably talented man he is. He likes all of you as well. What a

nice man, isn't he? Nice suits. I'm thrilled to see his band is gone, he

is here with all of his tall in. The talent is him, it's Jamie T.

# Post no bills, ill with chills, the pills, the cigarettes

# No, I won't kill, I will not defend a bloody rag

# And where did all the friendships go?

# We all know, we're a sign of the times

# But I wish I'd been a little more exceptional

# And I wish I'd been a little unconventional

# Simon says, everyone wants to know what's coming next

# Feel like a kid, underwater trying to hold my breath

# And every day's another war, another life I could have lived

# In every way I wanted more, wanted more than Laura did

# We still know, she's a sign of the times

# But I wish I'd been a little more exceptional

# And I wish I'd been a little unconventional

# We all know you're a sign of the times...

# CHEERING AND APPLAUSE.

# When did you say that you're coming home?

# I surgically remove all of the green food from my diet

# I know I should be reading but I'm too lazy to try it

# I keep the TV on all day to chase away the quiet when you leave

# When did you say that you're coming home?

# When you leave, I become a dickhead

# A bad-smelling, couch-dwelling dickhead

# I drink too many cups of tea and eat too many biscuits

# I stare at all the photos and the texts that you have sent me

# I think they're starting to resent me

# I want to go to bed but the bed is just too empty when you leave

# When did you say that you're coming home?

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. A great tall ept. Thank you The Divine Comedy.

How Can You Leave Me On My Own from his Foreverland LP. Before that we

enjoyed Jamie T. Now we glance at our watches with a bit of a tear

because we realise the end of the show is near. It is time for

Madness. APPLAUSE.

# All my deepest kept secrets I shared with you

# Tumbling in each other's stubborn foolishness

# But for today we're bathing each other down by the stream

# We have all the treasure that we need

# Well, don't denounce your beliefs

# No matter what wool they try to pull

# We have all the treasure that we need

# We have all the treasure that we need

# It would appear... #

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Madness You Can't Touch Us Now. We are back on

Tuesday at 10.00pm. You can go to our website and discover a lot more

else, of course. I would like to thank all of our guests. I would

like to celebrate another thought for Prince Buster who isn't with us.

We love him madly. Have you anything you could underlay and underpinned

for us. Thank you. What could this be? 1, 2, 1, 2, 3. Thank you,

Madness. Thank you The Divine Comedy. The dazzling voice of

Rag'n'Bone Man. Thank you the wonderful, Gallant. Ooooh, yeah,

yeah, Beth Orton. Thank you Jamie T. # Yeah, yeah...

# Oh, yeah, yeah... # # Yeah, yeah

# Oh, yeah...