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In 1976, one song in particular provided a soundtrack | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
for the long, hot summer. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
Young Hearts Run Free was a hit on the radios and dance floors | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
of the nation. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
But few people realised | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
that it was based on the life of the woman singing it, Candi Staton. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Candi started her career in a gospel trio and found solo fame | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
with songs such as Nights On Broadway and In The Ghetto. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Candi's never gone out of fashion. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Her vocals have graced hits in the 1990s, and now, in the 21st century. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
On this Mothering Sunday we celebrate the life | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
of not just a great singer, but also a great mother. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
A mother who has had to learn that through adversity, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
love shines through. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
Welcome to this very special Songs Of Praise. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
I'll be talking to Candi about how her faith has survived | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
a tempestuous life. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
She'll be performing some of her favourite hymns. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
We'll find out why Candi believes her concerts change lives. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
And we'll get the story behind THAT song. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
We're in Christ Church, Spitalfields | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
on the outskirts of the City of London. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
It's a stunning 18th-century church. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
This magnificent building deserves some magnificent music. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
We have just the people to do that. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
A great brand, an enthusiastic congregation, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
and most important of all, the one and only, Miss Candi Staton. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
It's so lovely to see you. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
You, standing in a church, singing - it's as normal as breathing. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
It is, it really is. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
I was raised in a church, when I was still in my mum's arms, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and even before I was born I was in church. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
-How do you feel when you're standing here? -I feel at home. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
-I feel right at home. -We've got to sort something out, OK? -OK. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
-Is it "Stay-ton" or "Stat-on?" -It's "Stay-ton." | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-I got it right! Phew. -Good for you. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
What do you want to start with tonight? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
We're going to start with an old song that I was raised with. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
My mum used to hum it on the porch in Alabama. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
-It's called Blessed Assurance. -I can't wait. Take it away. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
# Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
# Oh what a foretaste of glory divine | 0:02:41 | 0:02:47 | |
# Heir of salvation, purchase of God | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
# Born of his spirit Washed in his blood | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
# This is my story This is my song | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
# I'm praising my saviour all the day long | 0:03:05 | 0:03:12 | |
# This is my story This is my song | 0:03:12 | 0:03:18 | |
# Praising my saviour all the day long. # | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
Well done. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
How many times have people said that to you after you have sung, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
-I wonder? -Oh, my goodness, since I was five years old! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Blessed Assurance, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
-it's obviously a hymn that really does come from the heart. -Yes. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-And it's that one line in the chorus, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
"This is my story." | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Yeah. I love that, because we all have a story. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
And he is blessed. We are all blessed. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
And we have the assurance that we know God | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
and we know we are taken care of. It's a beautiful song, and I love it. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
As you said, your musical story started at a very early age. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
-Five years old. -Yes. -You are ushered to the pulpit of your local church. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
A normal five-year-old would go, "No way!" But not you. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I was shaking, trust me. I was shaking in my boots, I tell you. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
They put me on this little chair. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
In Alabama, they used to make their chairs, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
-and they're not really sturdy. -OK. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
And they kind of... You know, you move around. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
And I'm already shaking, and so the chair is shaking, I'm shaking. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Everybody's shaking! | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
-And all of a sudden, I just started singing the song. -What did you sing? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
The Lord Will Make A Way Somehow. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
How does it go? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
# Like a ship that's tossed and driven | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
# Battered by an angry sea | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
# When the storms of life are raging | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
# And the fury falls on me | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
# I wonder what have I done | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
# That makes this race so hard to run | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
# Then I say to my soul, don't worry | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
# Oooh The lord will make a way somehow. # | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
-Wow. -APPLAUSE | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
So, basically, a really easy song for a five-year-old to sing(!) | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
That's quite tough, isn't it? | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Well, yeah, but when you only have that. You only have your music. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
You've got to understand, back in the '50s, no TV, barely a radio. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:52 | |
So we used to sing. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
My sister and I would sing ourselves to sleep every night. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Until my mother came in and she would say, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
"If you don't stop, none of us can go to sleep!" | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
And she'd make us be quiet. But we wanted to sing all day, all night. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:09 | |
It's interesting, because the natural progression | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-is that you're then touring all over the place at a very young age. -Yes. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-And working with some of the biggest names in the world. -Yes. Oh, yeah. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:21 | |
I worked with Sam Cooke and I worked with Aretha. We were the youngest. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
We were the Jewel Gospel Trio. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
-The touring life was very hard, wasn't it? -Yes, it was. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
-No education, hardly any food. -Yeah. We sung our way through school. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
Home life was horrible. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
When we were little kids, my dad was a weekend alcoholic. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
He would go out gambling, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
and we wouldn't see him from Friday to Monday. So it was horrible. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
Life was horrible at home. But it was rough out there as well. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
You also became a little bit disillusioned with God | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
around that time as well, didn't you? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
I guess you could say I got angry. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Everybody, I guess, gets angry at God. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
When you don't really read the scripture and know him, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
in a personal relationship. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
You know when you were singing the secular pieces, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
did you miss the gospel music at all? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
I never stopped singing it. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Even in the dressing rooms, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
when Young Hearts Run Free was a big hit, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
before I ever walked on the stage | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
I would always sing - Precious Lord, Take My Hand | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Lead me on, let me stand I'm tired, I'm weak, I'm worn | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Through the storms, through the night, lead me on to the light. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
And what's the significance of the first piece | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
that you're going to sing for us solo? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Well, this song... My mum died in 1979 and we were very, very close. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
She was a woman of wisdom. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
She would tell me so many things that lead me today. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
Today I can hear her voice saying to me, "Don't do that. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
"If you do that, you'll get in trouble. You'd better listen to me." | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
I'm really looking forward to hearing it. Do you want to get ready? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Well, this is going to be a real treat. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
Here's Candi Staton with Mama. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
# Thought you'd like to know | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
# All those nights you paced the floor | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
# Praying I would make it home all right | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
# Belief in God that he would someday save my soul | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
# Well, he did And I thought you'd like to know | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
# I thought you'd like to know All those prayers you prayed for me | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
# Never once fell to the ground | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
# I know sometimes it looked like I was a million miles from grace | 0:11:13 | 0:11:20 | |
# He answered your prayers And I thought you'd like to know | 0:11:20 | 0:11:27 | |
# Mama, I want you to know I love you | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
# Please forgive me for all the times I broke your heart | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
# Every tear you cried for me Drew me closer to being free | 0:11:43 | 0:11:50 | |
# I want to thank you And I thought you'd like to know | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
# I thought you'd like to know I wish I could live my life again | 0:12:01 | 0:12:09 | |
# If I could I would surely make amends | 0:12:09 | 0:12:15 | |
# Oh, yeah But if I can help | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
# My sisters and brothers | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
# A new life to discover | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
# Then I will And I thought you'd like to know | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
# Oh, Mama | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
# I want you to know I love you | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
# Please forgive me for all the times I broke your heart | 0:12:39 | 0:12:45 | |
# Every tear you cried for me Took me closer to being free | 0:12:46 | 0:12:54 | |
# I want to thank you And I thought you'd like to know | 0:12:57 | 0:13:04 | |
# Mmmm I thought you'd like to know. # | 0:13:07 | 0:13:15 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Miss Candi Staton! | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Aged 74, Candi still regularly tours. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-How are you doing? -Today, she's at a music festival in Birmingham. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Are you feeling all right tonight? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
-Woo! -The line-up has been arranged by actor and DJ Craig Charles, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
a huge fan of Candi's soulful voice. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
It's like chocolate and velvet, and anger and pain, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
love and motherhood. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
It's like one of those really expensive wines. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
There's so many different flavours to it. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
# Oh, let our love survive | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
# I keep it all inside. # | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
It seems like I draw them in to me, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
and then I know what to say to them, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
or know how to phrase a song for them, you know? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
After a period of 20 years when she felt it was wrong to perform | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
her secular hits, Candi now believes they have a place | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
-and can make a difference. -We call them life songs. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Songs that talk about life. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Things that we go through day to day, you know? We go through a lot. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
# Run free They'll never be hung up... # | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
In the Bible it says older women teach the younger women | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
the right way to go. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
Those things are lessons for us. We are teachers. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
# Who-a-a... # | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
She brings so much love, so much God, so much belief and faith | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
to her secular music, that you do wonder what she was worried about. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
# Oh, yeah Oh, young hearts... # | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
'One lady came up and she said,' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
"I just felt like I've gone to church." | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
She said, "I felt like I've been in church." | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
I said, "Well, in a way, baby, you have. You've been in church! | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
"You were touched tonight." She said, "I'm going to church in the morning." | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
Well, Candi is certainly a hard-working lady. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
She's taking a breather right now and so it's our turn to sing. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
It's a classic hymn that's been given a bit of a groove. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Praise To The Lord. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Let's talk about the numerous hits that you've had. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Wonderful songs like Nights On Broadway. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
But one song in particular, I suppose. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-You know where I'm going with this, don't you? -Yes, I do. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Young Hearts Run Free. For so many people, it's that jolly, disco song. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
-There's more to it than that. -Yeah. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
To me, personally, it's a bittersweet song | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
because it was birthed from a very difficult time in my life. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
I was with someone that was very abusive | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
and he lifted me over the balcony | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
from the 24th floor of the Aladdin Hotel | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
and threatened to drop me off. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
And David Crawford, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
who was my producer at the time, had just got with Warner Brothers. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
And he was so sympathetic. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
And he said, "Well, we're going to pray." | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
But he said, "I must write some songs around this," he said. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
And then he went on a fast, which is so unusual for me. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
David fasted 40 days, just water. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
And he said, "I'm going to write you a song that's going to last forever." | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
So he wrote that song and we went into the studio. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
As a matter of fact, he finished the second verse on a break. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
He only had the first verse. And he said, "Take a break, go to lunch." | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
He said, "I'll have the second verse by the time you're back from lunch." | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
By the time I came back from lunch... # It's high time now | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
# Just one crack at life | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
# Who wants to live it in trouble and strife? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
# My mind must be free to learn all I can about me | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
# Do-do-do... # OK? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
# I'm going to love me for the rest of my days | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
# Encourage the babies every time they say | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
# Self-preservation is what's really going on today. # | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
He wrote that verse when we were having lunch. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
I was so into it because I was singing me. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
You have suffered a lot of abuse over the years, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
in different relationships. Was music a therapy in a way, then? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
It's my friend. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
It is the only consolation sometimes that I have. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
I've learnt, the thing is, I don't look at it as a set back, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:48 | |
-but a step forward. -Right. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
I learn and I gain wisdom and knowledge and understanding. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
And I get stronger. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
And I'm a person that's just determined | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
that nothing is going to stop me until it's time up. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
When God himself stops me, then I'll stop. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
But nothing on this Earth is going to stop me. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
You're going to sing a song now, When Jesus Came Into My Heart. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
Now, does this mean that you and God are best pals again? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
You're all sorted? There aren't any problems? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
-And this is how it's going to be for ever? -Oh, yeah. He didn't leave me. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
I left him. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
So, he knows you might stray. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
You might go out there for a little while and play around, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
but he knows in the end you're coming home | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
because you've been ordained to come home. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
Well, listen, your home is at the front of that stage | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
with the microphone in your hand. So, you go and take yourself home. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
-I will. Thank you, Aled. -I'm really looking forward to hearing this. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Candi Staton | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
with Since Jesus Came Into My heart. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
# Mmmmm | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
# What a wonderful change in my life has been wrought | 0:21:58 | 0:22:05 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:22:05 | 0:22:12 | |
# Oh, yes | 0:22:12 | 0:22:13 | |
# I have joy in my soul for so long I have sought | 0:22:13 | 0:22:21 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
# Well, I have ceased from my wanderings | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
# And my going, going astray | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart My, my | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
# And my sins which were many You see, the Lord washed them | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
# He washed them all away | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:22:52 | 0:22:58 | |
# I want to let you know | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:23:00 | 0:23:06 | |
# Oooh! Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:23:06 | 0:23:13 | |
# Ooh, yeah! | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
# Floods of joy o'er my soul Like the sea billows roll | 0:23:15 | 0:23:22 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart You know what? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:30 | |
# There's a light in the valley of death now for me | 0:23:30 | 0:23:38 | |
# Well, well Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
# And you know what else? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
# The gates to that city I believe, I believe I can see | 0:23:46 | 0:23:53 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:23:53 | 0:23:59 | |
# I want to let you know | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
# I want to Do you know what I'm talking about? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
# Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
# Well, well | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
# Floods of joy o'er my soul | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
# Like the sea, sea billows roll | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
# Since Jesus came into... Listen | 0:24:24 | 0:24:29 | |
# Since Jesus came into... I have a brand-new world | 0:24:29 | 0:24:35 | |
# Yeah If you know he came into your heart | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
# Come on, put those hands together | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
# This is Songs Of Praise, yeah | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
# Yeah, we're going to praise him | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
# Came into... Since Jesus came into my heart | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah! Ye-a-h. Ooh! # | 0:24:52 | 0:24:59 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
How amazing was that? Well, now it's up to the congregation | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
to fill this glorious church with music | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
with a hymn based on the Magnificat. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Mary's song of thanks to God | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
that she is to become a rather special mother. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Tell Out, My Soul. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
Well, I'll tell you what, there are so many Candi fans | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
here in the congregation, including Emma here. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
-You've got a question, haven't you? -I do, yes. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
Who haven't you sung with that you would like to? | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
I was pondering over the people that I've actually sung with. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
I've sung with Ray Charles and Gladys Knight and James Brown | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
and the Commodores. Just so many. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
-But to answer your question, I think Adele. -Adele? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
-I would love to do a song with Adele. -Have you sung with Stevie Wonder? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
-Yes. -OK. -Stevie too. LAUGHTER | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
She actually meant what she said. She has sung with everyone, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
literally! Very good question, well done. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
-Carmen, you've got a question, haven't you? -Yes, I have. Hi, Candi. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
-Hi. -We know that in your growing-up years | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
-you had some very upsetting times. -Yes. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Are you now able to forgive those who mistreated you? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Yes. Forgiveness is a process. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
And I had to first pray and ask God to give me the grace to forgive. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:58 | |
Because the pictures keep coming up in your mind. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
And each time one comes up, I just said, "No, I love you. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
"I love you anyway. I'm going to love you whether you love me or not." | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
It takes time. It takes a while sometimes for me to get there. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
-But eventually I'll get there. -Thank you very much. Good question. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
And the Reverend Marcus Anthony, you've got a question. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
What life lessons can you pass on to your grandchildren? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
They've been there. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
A lot of my children and grandchildren were big enough, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
they were old enough to see what I was going through | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
and they helped me through a lot of stuff. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
And they saw the mistakes I made. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
One of my granddaughters just said to me the other day, she said, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
"Grandma, if it had not been for that incident you went through, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:44 | |
"I don't think I could have gone through what I've gone through." | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
She was having relationship problems. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
And she said to me, "If you can handle that, I can handle anything." | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Thank you very much. Good questions, all of you. Well done. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
Give yourselves a round of applause. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
Candi, I've got to say, it's been the biggest honour ever, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
not just sharing a stage with you, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
but sharing a church with you as well. I hope you've enjoyed it. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
I have loved it. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
I have felt so at home, and the people... You guys are great. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
It's Mothering Sunday and you're a very special mother. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
-Thank you. -So we've got a little present for you. -Oh, goodness. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
-Fresh from my garden... -Oh! APPLAUSE | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
They smell wonderful. Thank you. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
And if ever I didn't want a Songs Of Praise to end, this is it. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
But unfortunately, we have come to the end. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
We're going to end with a song, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
a favourite with both English rugby fans and music fans. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
It's a stirring way to finish, as well. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
From Candi, myself and everyone here, good night to you. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
Next week, Cardinal Vincent Nichols reflects on his role | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
as leader of the Catholic community in England and Wales. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
Sally meets the doctor with some very fit patients. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Our hymns come from | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
the spectacular St Oswald and St Edmond Arrowsmith Catholic Church. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 |