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It's all aboard this week on Songs Of Praise | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
as I step back in time to the age of steam | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
and journey along the famous Carlisle-Settle line. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
TRAIN WHISTLE | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
We're here at Carlisle, heading south. I'm getting onboard. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Come on, lets go! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
My route today takes me across the magnificent Ribblehead Viaduct, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
and I'll be finding out about the workers | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
who risked their lives to build this remarkable bridge. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
Also on today's programme, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
Kate Bottley meets a mother determined to make sure | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
the tragic loss of her son due to a gambling addiction wasn't in vain. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
All I want to do is to prevent other people going through the same hell, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
because it was hell, as we did. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
And Richard Taylor is on Pendle Hill, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
looking for the birthplace of the Quakers. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
TRAIN WHISTLE | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
I'm in travelling in style on one of the most beautiful | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
railway journeys in the world. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
From the Cumbrian hills, the line slices through the Yorkshire Dales. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
It really makes you marvel at God's creation. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
In fact, it makes me want to sing out loud, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
except that I don't want to get thrown off the train. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
The Settle-Carlisle line opened in 1876. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Along the 72 miles of track are 15 tunnels and 24 viaducts. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
Today, people have travelled far and wide | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
to ride on this historic railway. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
It's the most beautiful, scenic route. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I mean, there's countryside here none of us have ever seen. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
And it is truly spectacular. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
I love riding this line. It's my favourite railway line. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Steam locomotives, they excite all the senses. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
They're beautiful to look at, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
beautiful to listen to and even the smell is just wonderful. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
And this is the moment all the passengers and sightseers | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
have been waiting for, crossing the famous Ribblehead Viaduct. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
At a quarter-of-a-mile long, with 24 arches, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
some up to 165 ft high, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
it's astonishing to think that this viaduct was built | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
using mostly manual labour. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
Before joining the train, I took a closer look at this magnificent | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
example of Victorian engineering with railway historian Bryan Gray. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-Hello, Bryan. Lovely to meet you. -Good to see you. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Bryan, this is spectacular. How was it built? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
It was built by navvies. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Navvies were the navigators of the Canal Age. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Navigator was shortened to navvy. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
So the railway navvies built this viaduct and this railway. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
They came from all over England and Scotland and Ireland | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and they moved from project to project. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Probably 2,000 people were involved in total | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
in building this railway line, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
so they had to establish, really, a small town here, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
in which they lived for six years. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Where we're standing, they built a town? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-It was actually a set of nine individual communities. -Yeah. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
And they gave them names. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
So we had Jericho and Jerusalem, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
because they had rudimentary Bible knowledge. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Up on the hill behind us, in a slightly posher area, was Belgravia. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
On average, there were seven people living in a hut, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
and there were a lot of children. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
So about 100 children under 10 lived on this site. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
When you're over 10, you started working, of course. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
What did they do for schools? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
The railway companies built schools, they built shops, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
they built a church and a rudimentary hospital. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
You said they built a church. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
I mean, who looked after their spiritual wellbeing? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
When I say a church, it wasn't a church with a spire, it was a wooden hut. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-A wooden hut. -Used as a church. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Well, um...this was the Victorian Age, when people, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
I think the great managers and entrepreneurs of the day | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
did care, actually, about the spiritual wellbeing of the workers. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
And, of course, they thought that people who were looked after | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
would work harder, as well. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The railway company paid for two ministers, who would talk to them. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
Preaching to them and being there for them. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Particularly sitting with their... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
On their sickbeds, for example, when they were ill, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
and just giving them encouragement when they were perhaps | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
depressed at living in such a wild place. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
It was a tough life for workers and their families | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
and an outbreak of smallpox in 1870 made things worse, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
with the disease claiming many victims. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
In this local church in Chapel-le-Dale, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
the number of funerals went up from two a year to 60. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
David, this is a plaque that the railway company erected | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
to commemorate all the navvies and their families | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
who lost their lives during the construction of the railway. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Around 200 of them, including children, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
are buried in the churchyard. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
They couldn't afford proper graves and memorials, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
so this is one large, mass grave. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
It is really difficult to believe that these people | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
gave up their lives for a railway | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
that is just a short distance from where we stand today. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
At least the viaduct still stands as a memorial to all they gave. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
We're travelling through the beautiful Yorkshire Dales | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and it's glorious. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Just to the southwest of us, across the moors, Richard Taylor | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
has been following in the footsteps of a radical Christian trailblazer. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
In the summer of 1652, just after the end of the English Civil War, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
a young man called George Fox climbed here, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Pendle Hill in Lancashire. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
When he reached the summit, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
he would experience a vision which would change the world. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
George Fox was a seeker. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Brought up in Leicestershire, in his late teens, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
he felt an inner voice calling him to leave home | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and search out spiritual truth. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Fox's searches led him to some startling conclusions. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
God could be found not in churches and in rituals, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
but in the open fields and in the day to day. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Christians should be guided not by priests, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
but by the light of God within their hearts. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
And since God dwelt in the hearts of all believers, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
so all believers were equal. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Labourers, servants, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
even women could know and teach the ways of the Lord. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
In his early 20s, Fox started to preach his new ideas. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
He attracted a small group of followers, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
who came to call themselves the Friends of the Truth, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
or simply, the Friends. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
In his biography, Fox described what happened here. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
He said, "As we travelled, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
"we came near a great hill called Pendle, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
"and I was moved by the Lord to climb to the top of it, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
"which I did with great difficulty, it being so very steep and high". | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
Yeah, tell me about that! | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
"And I could see the sea bordering upon Lancashire. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
"And the Lord showed me in what places he had | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
"a great people to be gathered in." | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Fox's radical ideas were not well received by the authorities | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
and he was regularly arrested and imprisoned. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Once, Fox told a prosecuting magistrate that he should | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
tremble before the Lord. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
And when the magistrate mocked him for quaking before God, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
the movement got a new name, the Quakers. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Many thousand were attracted to this vision | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
of what it meant to be a Christian. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
And in time, they would build little meeting houses, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
like this one, Farfield, in Yorkshire. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
There's a tranquillity to this place. A calm. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Quaker worship was fundamentally different. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
There's no altar here. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
There's no pulpit or books or priests. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Chris, what would worship have been like in a place like this? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
You would have found a group of people | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
sitting on these benches for perhaps... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
I don't know, two, three hours on a Sunday. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
Nothing apparently going on, but all waiting. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
And then someone would have stood up in their place, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
um...and given a message. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
A message that they believed had been given them by God. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
And to come into a place where you can just sit, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
no-one is asking any more of you than that, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
um...is...is healing, I think. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
Mm. It's from here to the present day. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Yeah. That's right. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
You know, we meet the Quakers probably more often than we realise. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
With their reputation for honest dealings, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
they made excellent businesspeople. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
And Lloyds Bank, Barclays Bank, Rowntree's, Terry's, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
Fry's chocolate, Bryant and May matches, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Clarks shoes, all have Quaker roots. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
But it's their spirituality that today seems more relevant than ever. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:52 | |
Their bravery, their quietude | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
and their unwavering commitment | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
to peace and truth and love. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
TRAIN WHISTLE | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Our journey along the Carlisle-Settle railway | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
has brought me to Appleby station, where the train takes on water. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
It's an opportunity for me to speak to Steve, our driver. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
-Steve, hello, mate. -Hi. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
So, what is it like driving one of these things? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Well, it's a real privilege because it's old-school train driving. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
There's no safety systems as such. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
You have control of the whole machine | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
and if you don't control it correctly, it'll come back and bite you. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Our next piece of music carries on our train theme. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
Ruby Turner caught the Birmingham New Street commuters by surprise | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
with this gospel classic on BBC Music Day last year. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
# You see the train | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
# In the yard | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
# It is ready to make a model start | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
# Oh, just as soon as | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
# The conductor | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
# He says, all aboard | 0:17:09 | 0:17:16 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
# This train is a clean train Everybody riding in Jesus' name | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
# This train has left the station Whoo, this train | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
# I said, this train has left the station, whoo, this train | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
# I said, this train has left the station | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
# This train takes on every nation | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
# It's the prettiest train I ever did see, this train | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
# Get onboard | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
# It's the prettiest train I ever did see, this train | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
# Who's getting onboard? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
# It's the prettiest train I ever did see | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
# If you want to ride it You better get redeemed | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
# Better get onboard | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
# This train is bound for glory This train | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
# This train is bound for glory I said, this train | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
# Who's getting onboard? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
# I said, this train is bound for glory | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
# Everybody riding her must be holy | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
# Yeah | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
# Get onboard | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
# Get onboard | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
# Get onboard | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
# All aboard, all aboard, all aboard | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
# This train don't take no jokers This train | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
# This train don't take no jokers This train | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
# Who's getting onboard? | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
# I said, this train don't take no jokers | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
# No tobacco-chewers or cigar-smokers | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
# You'd better get onboard | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
# This train is a clean train You know, this train | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
# You'd better get onboard. # | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Up and down the country, betting shops are a familiar sight. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
And according to the Gambling Commission, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
48% of us had a bet on something last year. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
For most, it's a bit of innocent fun, but as Kate Bottley | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
has been finding out, for some, it can lead to tragedy. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Alan Lockhart was just 40 years old when he took his own life in 2010. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
As a teenager, he'd become hooked on slot machines. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
It started an addiction to gambling that he'd never shake off. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
Alan was a lovely boy. Loved his sports. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
He went everywhere with us, and one of his favourite occupations | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
was to go on the slot machines while Mum and Dad had a cup of coffee. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
And it all seemed very, very harmless and...and OK. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
But his childhood fascination with slot machines | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
led to an addiction to all forms of gambling. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Money kept going through his fingers like water. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
And, er...when he became in debt to a very large amount, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
we thought, well, yes, he is in big trouble. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
But you do what any parent does, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:55 | |
you protect your children at all costs | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and you do all you can for them, | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
so we kept helping him out when he needed money. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
Then, all of a sudden, Alan took himself off, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
left home and didn't come back. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
Two years later, I heard that Alan had hung himself in his house. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
It was... I don't know, like being down a dark hole. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-Those must have been really dark days. -Very dark days, terrible. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
I have a strong faith and that helped me through that. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
How did that help? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
I think praying about your problems helps to off-load | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
a little bit of the weight, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
and there was always a reason. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
Maybe this was what it was all about. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
And for Anne, that means spreading the word about the risks of gambling | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
to young people and to the gambling industry. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Graham Weir is head of player protection for high-street | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
betting chain, Ladbrokes Coral. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Alan died in 2010. How have things changed since then? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
The industry has, I guess, awoken to our responsibilities, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
probably in the last five or six years. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
In shop, we have messages for customers that play on machines, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
for example, that tell them how long they've been gambling for, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
how much they've been spending. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
And we've also retrained all of our colleagues | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
to spot the signs of problem gambling. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Some people still say an industry that earns £12 billion per year | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
should be doing more to protect their customers. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
What we are looking to do is understand | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
probably the next generation of gamblers. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
We just need people to understand that gambling should be fun, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
and when it stops being fun, that's the time to seek help. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
I think gambling can become their life, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
but gambling can also take life. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
And it can become the only thing worth living for. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
And if the means to gamble has gone, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
um...there's not really a very easy way out. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
So, do you think what your doing now to raise awareness of this, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
do you think this is your mission from God, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
-this is what you're supposed to be doing? -Yes. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
All I want to do is to prevent other people going through the same, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
um...hell, because it was hell, as we did. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
The Settle-Carlisle line weaves its way through the Eden Valley, | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
which is home to the Knock Christian Centre. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
It's a place where Christian groups can come and enjoy the great outdoors. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
But when it started back in 1979, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
this disused radar station looked very different. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Was it like this when you got it? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Oh, no, nothing like this at all. It was just like a prison. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
So, have you been involved in doing all the work here? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Well, many friends and helpers, and I've done my little bit. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
Tell us about that tower. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
It was such a nuisance, it was ugly and everything. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
We did think about demolishing it and then the idea came up | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
that we could use it for a climbing wall. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Ken was a surgeon in Blackpool when he and his brother | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
bought the centre for their church group. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Here, where all the kitchen stuff is, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
this is where the fuel boilers were. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
Who got rid of it all? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
-Er...friends and myself. -How fantastic! | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
-And then you turned it into this kitchen, this huge kitchen. -Yes. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
-Now, listen, that was 1978, yeah? '79? -Yes. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
Um...if you don't mind me asking, how old are you now? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
-90. -90? -Yes. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
-And you're still doing all this stuff? -I'm not doing anything. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
-I just walk around and talk these days. -Oh, what an inspiration. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
We play outside and we have fun. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
And it's just a feeling of, like...friendship and stuff. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
I can switch off mentally and relax and I can connect with God so easily | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
because that's what this place means to me. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Ken's a complete star. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
And at 91, still to have the energy and the vision | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
and the passion to keep it going, it's just remarkable. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
That is what I've come here to see. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:40 | |
It's that hill, it's the peacefulness of it all. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
It's just beautiful. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
-And also, there's not such a good mobile phone coverage. -Yeah. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
And there's no Wi-Fi, which is fantastic! | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
We go down to the chapel sometimes | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
and have, like, a little church in there and things. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
Learn about Christianity. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Two forward and one to the left. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
My own emphasis is to welcome everyone. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
And we get good reports and have a very happy time. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
Not only in fun and games and things, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
but in learning of the Christian faith. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
And, er...there's many a child or a youngster been transformed, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
as it were, through this centre. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
So that's marvellous, isn't it? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Well, that's almost it for this week. I hope you've enjoyed it. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Next week, Aled Jones visits the Chatsworth Estate in Derbyshire, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
where it's all things bright and beautiful | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
at their first-ever annual flower show. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
This week, we end on a big hymn from the Salvation Army. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 |