Doubt Songs of Praise


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Eamonn Holmes hears from people whose faith has been tested. With hymns from St Thomas' Church in Belfast, L'Angelus and the choristers of St Peter's Cathedral.


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Hello there, and welcome to Songs of Praise, which today

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comes from my home city of Belfast.

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Later we'll be going to the Parish of St Thomas

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in the south of the city.

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Thomas, the Apostle who gives his name to the church,

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is better known as Doubting Thomas,

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but Thomas turned from doubt to belief,

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and that's the theme of this programme.

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Coming up, music from L'Angelus,

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and Schola Cantorum.

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The nun who has never doubted God.

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And some wonderful hymns accompanied by the New Irish Orchestra.

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That stained glass window shows Thomas the Apostle,

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who didn't believe Jesus had risen from the dead.

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He was only convinced when confronted by the evidence

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of the crucifixion and as a result, he became a man of great faith.

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Well, our first hymn proclaims great faith with the words

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"No more we doubt thee".

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It's a rousing tune from George Frideric Handel

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and a favourite on Songs Of Praise, Thine Be The Glory.

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When things are going well, it's easy to have faith,

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but when we have to face painful moments,

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like the death of an only son, it can be a very different story.

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David Lyle is the chief executive of an award-winning advertising agency, and here's his story.

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Matthew was a lovely, witty lad,

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and I'm not just saying that myself because I was his father.

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The letters we received about him

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after his death were heart-breaking because they were

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unanimous in painting this picture

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of a joyful, friendly, affable,

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kind, generous person, but yet he was a tormented soul.

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Drugs and addiction cursed his life and brought him to terrible places.

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It's a normal reaction for anyone

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faced with the terrible tragedy

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of losing your only son to ask the question, "Why?"

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Why us? Why me?

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But we came through that,

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and indeed my wife was very clear in her thinking that God is sovereign.

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We were given new strength

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to come through that terrible period in our lives.

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Faith held us through it and brought us through it

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and through all the doubts and the problems that you face

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with this, and the crushingness that you go through.

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And the times when you feel utterly broken.

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And it was faith,

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it was the love of Christ that brought us through it.

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I think it's very important in terms of

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dealing with the death of your only son

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that you actually celebrate the good memories you have,

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and I found that this is an important part of faith,

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and Biblical faith,

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that we are to approach everything with thanksgiving.

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I give thanks for Matthew's life.

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My wife Helen and myself started the website for Matthew

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because he had such important things to say about drugs and addiction.

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And his own words about how addiction had captured his life,

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and enslaved him and destroyed his life.

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His own words are so powerful. This reality

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needed to be brought out to people,

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in the hope that even one life might be saved

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from this misery that drug-taking brings.

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And not long after the website was up and running,

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David faced another crisis of conviction.

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Helen was diagnosed with terminal cancer

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and I think that was another shocking blow for us as a family.

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It just came in a flash, and she was gone.

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And so then we had the same fundamental issue to deal with.

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Why us? Why Helen?

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When you're not expecting it, a sudden memory will trigger,

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you know, a deep sense of loss and brokenness.

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The way to deal with it is to celebrate the good memories,

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the positive memories, happy times together,

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and that's how to deal with it, in thanksgiving.

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In life, we are always dealing with the certainty of the unexpected.

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That is the biggest single reality

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that everybody watching this programme faces,

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and I think that faith in the love of Christ,

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faith in the risen Christ,

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is an important way of dealing with the certainty of the unexpected.

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This monastery is home to an enclosed order of nuns.

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It was founded by St Clare, and the nuns observe a strict routine

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that has remained relatively unchanged in over 800 years.

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Dedicating their lives to prayer, each Poor Clares sister

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takes a vow of poverty, chastity, obedience and enclosure.

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And for Sister Paschal,

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this convent and these grounds have been her life for nearly 60 years.

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Sister Paschal, lovely to see you.

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-Are you keeping well?

-Wonderful, thanks.

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My faith today is as strong as ever it was...

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..since the first moment I experienced God's call to me.

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I am the youngest of a family of eight.

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I enjoyed life, and I was working very happily.

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I loved social life, travelling,

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but I realised that there was more to life.

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I began to say,

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"I wonder, would God mean me to have an avocation to religious life?"

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BELLS RING

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I felt so strongly that this was a call from God,

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and I never doubted my vocation.

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Even though the order of Poor Clare nuns follows a daily routine

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of prayer and worship, their enclosure doesn't stop them

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feeling in touch with life beyond the convent walls.

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THEY SING

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It's not an introverted style of life at all.

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When we hand ourselves over to God, he guides us, and praying constantly,

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we're not preoccupied with our own interests, our own fulfilment.

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We bring in the world.

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People come up with worries and troubles and anxieties

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and very often, they're just wanting to pour out

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and unload their worries to someone they know can bring it in prayer.

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We bring them before God and ask, "Lord, be with them.

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"You're the only one who can solve their problems."

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Very, very often they go away relieved. Not released, but relieved.

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Our benefactors are very, very dedicated to us.

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They would bring us the necessities on account of our vow of poverty.

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We call it the privilege of poverty.

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We're very particular about the use of everything.

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We're never in want at all.

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Our Filipina sisters in particular,

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they have a great programme of exercising.

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We have a large garden,

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beautiful pathways around and just ideal for cycling.

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I would in the past have cycled the whole circle

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of the monastery garden maybe three or four times.

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I feel free, and all the sisters, living among ourselves

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and sharing with each other when we come to meetings. It is tremendous.

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The Lord is leading me, as he has led me all these years.

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I don't feel that I have doubts at all. I must follow this way of life.

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It was an invitation, and you can't put aside an invitation.

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The day I left home to enter the Poor Clares, I remember my mother just

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saying, "Now, if you change your mind about it, you can always come home.

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"The door is always open for you."

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But I have never looked back since.

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This is my family now, this is my home.

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I have received more than I ever gave up.

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# Ave

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# Ave

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# Verum corpus

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# Natum

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# De Maria virgine

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# Vere

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# Passum

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# Immolatum

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# In cruce

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# Pro homine

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# Cujus tus

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# Perforatum

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# Fluxit aqua

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# Et sanguine

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# Esto nobis

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# Praegustatum

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# In mortis

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# In mortis

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# Examine

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# In mortis

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# Examine. #

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The choristers of Schola Cantorum

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in the impressive setting of St Peter's Cathedral.

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On an equally grand scale and designed to impress,

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St Thomas' is one of the finest examples of high Victorian gothic ecclesiastical architecture.

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There are many fine stained-glass windows throughout the church,

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illustrating scenes from the life of Christ and biblical passages.

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Life is often unfair, there's no two ways about it,

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and we can all suffer some cruel blows.

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Remembering a happy time or place has traditionally been used

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to good effect by those who find themselves in a painful place.

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Well, Dr Susan Phoenix uses her own experience of life

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to help others through their difficult times.

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I was born in England

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over 60 years ago now, and I suppose in those days

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we all thought of ourselves in England

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as little Christian children -

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be kind to our fellow man. And that was my life.

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But I always felt I should be doing something for somebody.

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I always knew I wanted to be a nurse.

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I became a member of the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps.

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I was a dedicated career girl. But then I met an Irish man.

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Ian was probably more committed to a faith than I was,

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because he felt he was working for peace in Northern Ireland,

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even though he was a policeman in those days.

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We had friends of Catholics and Protestants and we all lived and worked and had fun together.

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But any time things went right, he used to say,

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"I think we should go to church and say thank you."

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And that is a beautiful ethos. Because we do forget to say thank you to whoever or whatever.

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I talk now about the God of your heart,

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and to me it doesn't matter which god you worship - Buddhist, Catholic, Protestant, whatever.

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I think it's very important we remember to say thank you for the good things. And he did.

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This is Inside Ulster.

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25 senior Northern Ireland security officials

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died in the Scottish helicopter crash.

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The day my husband was killed on the Mull of Kintyre,

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on that day, I had waved him off with great love.

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I can see his face now, I can see his back walking away from me

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as he got into the Chinook.

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I knew I was surrounded by love then, and so did he.

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His 50th birthday had been the year before and he had said,

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"Well, boys, if I die tomorrow, I've had a great life.

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"I've known great excitement, great love and I have had a good life. What more could you want?"

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At the time when Ian died, of course I probably had doubts.

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It was traumatic.

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Within six more months, my mother and my father all died.

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So within six months, I'd lost all of my roots.

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I had my children, but I had to start and look at my life,

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and finding out who I was was very, very...

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What's the word? Traumatic, difficult.

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But I did it in the best way I possibly could.

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I wrote his life story, and that absorbed me.

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It was a bit like completing his final task.

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It was really very dynamic, and thrusting forward.

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And then I went down the tubes on year three.

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And many bereaved people now tell me that year three is the year

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people just go, "Well, they're not coming back, are they? What happened?"

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So there was a difficult year.

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And I now help other people through that.

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I think by studying psychology it gave me

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a much more analytical brain, which helped me

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when I started to analyse cures around the world

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for depression after bereavement.

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And that was something I have dedicated 17 years to,

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to look across the world at different philosophies.

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Using our intuition, trusting ourselves, is OK,

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and it doesn't matter which religion you are,

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to have that spiritual emphasis

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is very important to any religion or no religion.

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You have a responsibility to do something with this life.

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BELLS RING

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These bells have been ringing at St Thomas' for 140 years.

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The Angelus is the name of a prayer.

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It is usually accompanied by the ringing of a bell,

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a call to prayer and to spread goodwill.

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BELLS RING

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And like prayer, music has always been a unifying force.

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It brings families together,

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just like these brothers and sisters from Louisiana - L'Angelus.

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# This day God gives me

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# Strength of high heaven

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# Sun and moon shining Flame in my heart

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# Flashing of lightning

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# Wind in its swiftness

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# Deeps of the ocean

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# Firmness of earth

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# This day God sends me

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# Strength as my guardian

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# Might to uphold me

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# Wisdom as guide

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# Your eyes are watchful

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# Your ears are listening

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# Your lips are speaking

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# Friend at my side

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# God's way is my way

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# God's shield is round me

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# God's host defends me

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# Saving from ill

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# Angels of heaven

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# Joy from me always

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# All that would harm me

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# Stand by me still

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# Rising, I thank thee

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# Mighty and strong

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# King of creation

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# Giver of rest

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# Firmly confessing

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# God in three persons

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# Oneness of Godhead

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# Trinity blessed

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# Firmly confessing

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# God in three persons

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# Oneness of Godhead

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# Trinity blessed. #

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May Christ, amid your doubts, strengthen your faith.

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May he assuage your fears.

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May he bring you to that divine day when you behold his face.

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And may the blessing of God Almighty, the father,

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the son and the Holy Spirit,

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rest upon you and upon your families and your friends

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and remain with you now and forever more.

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ALL: Amen.

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And that's almost it from Belfast.

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It seems to me the people we've met today -

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David, Sister Paschal and Susan -

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share an acceptance,

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that they've placed their trust in a higher power.

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And that's the hardest prayer. Not MY will, but THY will be done.

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Until the next time, bye-bye.

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Next week, for Advent Sunday,

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Diane-Louise Jordan introduces festive hymns

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that herald the Christmas season...

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..and unravels the mystery

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of how the birth of Jesus was predicted centuries before.

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