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Hello there, and welcome to Songs of Praise, which today | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
comes from my home city of Belfast. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Later we'll be going to the Parish of St Thomas | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
in the south of the city. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
Thomas, the Apostle who gives his name to the church, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
is better known as Doubting Thomas, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
but Thomas turned from doubt to belief, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
and that's the theme of this programme. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Coming up, music from L'Angelus, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
and Schola Cantorum. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
The nun who has never doubted God. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
And some wonderful hymns accompanied by the New Irish Orchestra. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
That stained glass window shows Thomas the Apostle, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
who didn't believe Jesus had risen from the dead. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
He was only convinced when confronted by the evidence | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
of the crucifixion and as a result, he became a man of great faith. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Well, our first hymn proclaims great faith with the words | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
"No more we doubt thee". | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It's a rousing tune from George Frideric Handel | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
and a favourite on Songs Of Praise, Thine Be The Glory. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
When things are going well, it's easy to have faith, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
but when we have to face painful moments, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
like the death of an only son, it can be a very different story. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
David Lyle is the chief executive of an award-winning advertising agency, and here's his story. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:56 | |
Matthew was a lovely, witty lad, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
and I'm not just saying that myself because I was his father. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
The letters we received about him | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
after his death were heart-breaking because they were | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
unanimous in painting this picture | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
of a joyful, friendly, affable, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
kind, generous person, but yet he was a tormented soul. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
Drugs and addiction cursed his life and brought him to terrible places. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
It's a normal reaction for anyone | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
faced with the terrible tragedy | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
of losing your only son to ask the question, "Why?" | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
Why us? Why me? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
But we came through that, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
and indeed my wife was very clear in her thinking that God is sovereign. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:48 | |
We were given new strength | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
to come through that terrible period in our lives. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
Faith held us through it and brought us through it | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
and through all the doubts and the problems that you face | 0:05:58 | 0:06:04 | |
with this, and the crushingness that you go through. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
And the times when you feel utterly broken. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And it was faith, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
it was the love of Christ that brought us through it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I think it's very important in terms of | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
dealing with the death of your only son | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
that you actually celebrate the good memories you have, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
and I found that this is an important part of faith, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
and Biblical faith, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
that we are to approach everything with thanksgiving. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
I give thanks for Matthew's life. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
My wife Helen and myself started the website for Matthew | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
because he had such important things to say about drugs and addiction. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:54 | |
And his own words about how addiction had captured his life, | 0:06:54 | 0:07:00 | |
and enslaved him and destroyed his life. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
His own words are so powerful. This reality | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
needed to be brought out to people, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
in the hope that even one life might be saved | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
from this misery that drug-taking brings. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
And not long after the website was up and running, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
David faced another crisis of conviction. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Helen was diagnosed with terminal cancer | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
and I think that was another shocking blow for us as a family. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:31 | |
It just came in a flash, and she was gone. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
And so then we had the same fundamental issue to deal with. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
Why us? Why Helen? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:44 | |
When you're not expecting it, a sudden memory will trigger, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
you know, a deep sense of loss and brokenness. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
The way to deal with it is to celebrate the good memories, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
the positive memories, happy times together, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
and that's how to deal with it, in thanksgiving. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
In life, we are always dealing with the certainty of the unexpected. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:09 | |
That is the biggest single reality | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
that everybody watching this programme faces, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
and I think that faith in the love of Christ, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
faith in the risen Christ, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
is an important way of dealing with the certainty of the unexpected. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:27 | |
This monastery is home to an enclosed order of nuns. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
It was founded by St Clare, and the nuns observe a strict routine | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
that has remained relatively unchanged in over 800 years. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
Dedicating their lives to prayer, each Poor Clares sister | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
takes a vow of poverty, chastity, obedience and enclosure. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
And for Sister Paschal, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
this convent and these grounds have been her life for nearly 60 years. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
Sister Paschal, lovely to see you. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
-Are you keeping well? -Wonderful, thanks. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
My faith today is as strong as ever it was... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
..since the first moment I experienced God's call to me. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
I am the youngest of a family of eight. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
I enjoyed life, and I was working very happily. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
I loved social life, travelling, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
but I realised that there was more to life. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I began to say, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
"I wonder, would God mean me to have an avocation to religious life?" | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
BELLS RING | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I felt so strongly that this was a call from God, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
and I never doubted my vocation. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Even though the order of Poor Clare nuns follows a daily routine | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
of prayer and worship, their enclosure doesn't stop them | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
feeling in touch with life beyond the convent walls. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
THEY SING | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
It's not an introverted style of life at all. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
When we hand ourselves over to God, he guides us, and praying constantly, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
we're not preoccupied with our own interests, our own fulfilment. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
We bring in the world. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
People come up with worries and troubles and anxieties | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
and very often, they're just wanting to pour out | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
and unload their worries to someone they know can bring it in prayer. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
We bring them before God and ask, "Lord, be with them. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
"You're the only one who can solve their problems." | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Very, very often they go away relieved. Not released, but relieved. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:26 | |
Our benefactors are very, very dedicated to us. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
They would bring us the necessities on account of our vow of poverty. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
We call it the privilege of poverty. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
We're very particular about the use of everything. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
We're never in want at all. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Our Filipina sisters in particular, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
they have a great programme of exercising. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
We have a large garden, | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
beautiful pathways around and just ideal for cycling. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
I would in the past have cycled the whole circle | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
of the monastery garden maybe three or four times. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
I feel free, and all the sisters, living among ourselves | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
and sharing with each other when we come to meetings. It is tremendous. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
The Lord is leading me, as he has led me all these years. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
I don't feel that I have doubts at all. I must follow this way of life. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
It was an invitation, and you can't put aside an invitation. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
The day I left home to enter the Poor Clares, I remember my mother just | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
saying, "Now, if you change your mind about it, you can always come home. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:50 | |
"The door is always open for you." | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
But I have never looked back since. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
This is my family now, this is my home. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
I have received more than I ever gave up. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
# Ave | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
# Ave | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
# Verum corpus | 0:15:19 | 0:15:26 | |
# Natum | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
# De Maria virgine | 0:15:29 | 0:15:39 | |
# Vere | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
# Passum | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
# Immolatum | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
# In cruce | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
# Pro homine | 0:15:59 | 0:16:07 | |
# Cujus tus | 0:16:19 | 0:16:27 | |
# Perforatum | 0:16:27 | 0:16:34 | |
# Fluxit aqua | 0:16:34 | 0:16:41 | |
# Et sanguine | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
# Esto nobis | 0:16:49 | 0:16:57 | |
# Praegustatum | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
# In mortis | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
# In mortis | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
# Examine | 0:17:12 | 0:17:18 | |
# In mortis | 0:17:18 | 0:17:34 | |
# Examine. # | 0:17:34 | 0:17:47 | |
The choristers of Schola Cantorum | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
in the impressive setting of St Peter's Cathedral. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
On an equally grand scale and designed to impress, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
St Thomas' is one of the finest examples of high Victorian gothic ecclesiastical architecture. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:17 | |
There are many fine stained-glass windows throughout the church, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
illustrating scenes from the life of Christ and biblical passages. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
Life is often unfair, there's no two ways about it, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
and we can all suffer some cruel blows. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Remembering a happy time or place has traditionally been used | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
to good effect by those who find themselves in a painful place. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
Well, Dr Susan Phoenix uses her own experience of life | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
to help others through their difficult times. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
I was born in England | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
over 60 years ago now, and I suppose in those days | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
we all thought of ourselves in England | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
as little Christian children - | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
be kind to our fellow man. And that was my life. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
But I always felt I should be doing something for somebody. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I always knew I wanted to be a nurse. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
I became a member of the Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
I was a dedicated career girl. But then I met an Irish man. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Ian was probably more committed to a faith than I was, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
because he felt he was working for peace in Northern Ireland, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
even though he was a policeman in those days. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
We had friends of Catholics and Protestants and we all lived and worked and had fun together. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
But any time things went right, he used to say, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
"I think we should go to church and say thank you." | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
And that is a beautiful ethos. Because we do forget to say thank you to whoever or whatever. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
I talk now about the God of your heart, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
and to me it doesn't matter which god you worship - Buddhist, Catholic, Protestant, whatever. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
I think it's very important we remember to say thank you for the good things. And he did. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
This is Inside Ulster. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
25 senior Northern Ireland security officials | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
died in the Scottish helicopter crash. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
The day my husband was killed on the Mull of Kintyre, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
on that day, I had waved him off with great love. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I can see his face now, I can see his back walking away from me | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
as he got into the Chinook. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
I knew I was surrounded by love then, and so did he. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
His 50th birthday had been the year before and he had said, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
"Well, boys, if I die tomorrow, I've had a great life. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
"I've known great excitement, great love and I have had a good life. What more could you want?" | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
At the time when Ian died, of course I probably had doubts. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
It was traumatic. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Within six more months, my mother and my father all died. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
So within six months, I'd lost all of my roots. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I had my children, but I had to start and look at my life, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
and finding out who I was was very, very... | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
What's the word? Traumatic, difficult. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
But I did it in the best way I possibly could. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
I wrote his life story, and that absorbed me. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
It was a bit like completing his final task. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
It was really very dynamic, and thrusting forward. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
And then I went down the tubes on year three. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
And many bereaved people now tell me that year three is the year | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
people just go, "Well, they're not coming back, are they? What happened?" | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
So there was a difficult year. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
And I now help other people through that. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I think by studying psychology it gave me | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
a much more analytical brain, which helped me | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
when I started to analyse cures around the world | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
for depression after bereavement. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
And that was something I have dedicated 17 years to, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
to look across the world at different philosophies. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Using our intuition, trusting ourselves, is OK, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
and it doesn't matter which religion you are, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
to have that spiritual emphasis | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
is very important to any religion or no religion. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
You have a responsibility to do something with this life. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
BELLS RING | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
These bells have been ringing at St Thomas' for 140 years. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
The Angelus is the name of a prayer. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
It is usually accompanied by the ringing of a bell, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
a call to prayer and to spread goodwill. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
BELLS RING | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
And like prayer, music has always been a unifying force. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
It brings families together, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
just like these brothers and sisters from Louisiana - L'Angelus. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
# This day God gives me | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
# Strength of high heaven | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
# Sun and moon shining Flame in my heart | 0:26:46 | 0:26:52 | |
# Flashing of lightning | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
# Wind in its swiftness | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
# Deeps of the ocean | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
# Firmness of earth | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
# This day God sends me | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
# Strength as my guardian | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
# Might to uphold me | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
# Wisdom as guide | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
# Your eyes are watchful | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
# Your ears are listening | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
# Your lips are speaking | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
# Friend at my side | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
# God's way is my way | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
# God's shield is round me | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
# God's host defends me | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
# Saving from ill | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
# Angels of heaven | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
# Joy from me always | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
# All that would harm me | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
# Stand by me still | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
# Rising, I thank thee | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
# Mighty and strong | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
# King of creation | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
# Giver of rest | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
# Firmly confessing | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
# God in three persons | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
# Oneness of Godhead | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
# Trinity blessed | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
# Firmly confessing | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
# God in three persons | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
# Oneness of Godhead | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
# Trinity blessed. # | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
May Christ, amid your doubts, strengthen your faith. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
May he assuage your fears. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
May he bring you to that divine day when you behold his face. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
And may the blessing of God Almighty, the father, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
the son and the Holy Spirit, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
rest upon you and upon your families and your friends | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and remain with you now and forever more. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
ALL: Amen. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
And that's almost it from Belfast. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
It seems to me the people we've met today - | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
David, Sister Paschal and Susan - | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
share an acceptance, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
that they've placed their trust in a higher power. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
And that's the hardest prayer. Not MY will, but THY will be done. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
Until the next time, bye-bye. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Next week, for Advent Sunday, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Diane-Louise Jordan introduces festive hymns | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
that herald the Christmas season... | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
..and unravels the mystery | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
of how the birth of Jesus was predicted centuries before. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 |