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"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
"and they will call him Immanuel." | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
"But to us, a child is born. To us, a son is given. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
"And the government will be on his shoulders." | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
These are words that become so familiar at this time of year. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
An integral part of the Christmas story. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
And yet, they were written hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
They're the words of prophets, people of faith who believed God | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
had given them a message to bring to the world. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Today is Advent Sunday and I love this time of year, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
a time of waiting and anticipation, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
when we look forward to celebrating the event the prophets spoke about - | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
God sending his son, our saviour, into the world. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
And so I'll be exploring those prophetic words | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
that foretold the birth of Jesus so many centuries ago | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
and discovering what prophecy can mean today. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
We've also wonderful hymns from all around the UK | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
to celebrate the Advent season. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
The Christmas story is surely one of the most loved in the world, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
an account of extraordinary events, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
of angels and stars and kings and shepherds and wise men. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:31 | |
And at its heart, a little baby lying in a manger. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
But perhaps what is most remarkable | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
is that many of the details in the story of Jesus' birth | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
were predicted centuries earlier by the prophets, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
so the full story of Jesus doesn't begin with his birth, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
but with the ancient scriptures of the Old Testament. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
One of the things I love about the Bible | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
is that it contains such a huge variety of literature. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
It's full of fantastic stories, history, poetry, songs and proverbs. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
And a huge chunk of it is prophecy. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
The prophets brought God's message to the people around them | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
at that time, but they also spoke of a great hope for the future. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
It's a hope realised in a baby laid in a manger | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
and celebrated in many of our favourite Advent hymns. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
The Bible is full of prophecies and actually, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
particularly the Christmas story is full of prophecies. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Things like the fact that Jesus would be born from a virgin, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
that Jesus would be born in Bethlehem, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
that they would try to kill him and all the children around him. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
And then details of his life, about where he would grow up, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
how he would be treated by his family. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Details about the crucifixion of Jesus. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Unbelievable details about just what crucifixion would feel like and look like. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
But also, Jesus' resurrection. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
All of that is predicted in the Old Testament, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
700-odd years before those events. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
So prophecy is a great gift to the church because it helps us | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
to know God's got a big plan for the universe, he knows what's going to take place. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
And those prophecies that were fulfilled in Jesus give us great confidence | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
that God will keep his promises that are yet to be fulfilled in the rest of the Bible. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
Prophecy is when God speaks through a messenger | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
and they are able to tell what God wants to say to his people. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
Many people look at the prophecies in the Old Testament | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
and think they should find details of modern life in there, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
from barcodes to the European economic crisis to 9/11. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
And that's not how it works. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
It's not that God has put a message into a kind of time capsule | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
that we dig up and it would only make sense to us now. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Prophecy is not just all about foretelling, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
it's forthtelling, it's God explaining what he wants his people to do and how he wants them to live. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
But why would the people of that generation need to know | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
that something was going to happen 700 years later? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
How you view the future affects how you live in the present, actually. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
If you think the future is terrible, you don't invest into it. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
People talk about us being a credit card generation. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
We store up great debts into the future because we know it's all going to be bad. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
But for me, knowing that God is one day going to sort out | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
the future means that I want to work now to bring justice and peace. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
And it shows that the Bible is not really separatable into New Testament and Old Testament. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
It's one book. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
God makes promises in the Old Testament that he fulfils in the New Testament. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
Who were the Old Testament prophets? What sort of characters? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
They were an amazing group of people. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
They were made up of all sorts of different groups of people. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Some of the prophets did write down their prophecies | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
and some didn't, people like Moses and Deborah in the Old Testament. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
But even what God asked them to do was not just speak a message, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
but to live it out. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
A lot of the Old Testament prophecies were made during really dark and difficult times. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
In the Book of Isaiah, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
the nation of Israel feels like just a tiny little nation surrounded | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
by these military superpowers and getting bashed about by them. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
And for God to say, look, it does feel really dark now, but the light is coming | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
and you might feel alone, but actually I'm going to come, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
I'm going to live amongst you as a man, I'm coming, Emmanuel, God with us. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
It gave the people great hope, and even in some of our Advent hymns that we like to sing, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:48 | |
My favourite is O Come, Emmanuel. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
It's an interesting mix because it's a very dark song, it's very sombre, it's in a minor key, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
it reminds me of a grunge record made by Nirvana or somebody. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
And yet the words, you know, "Come, come, Emmanuel, come, God, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
"Come into this world of darkness." | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
That seems to really capture some of the ways the prophets worked. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Into this difficult time, God makes a promise of hope and help to his people. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
We may remember the prophets of the Bible mostly by what they said | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
and what they wrote down, but above all, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
these were men and women of action for God. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Even if what they said was unpopular and sometimes controversial. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
At Advent, we prepare for the coming of Jesus, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
who often drew opposition himself through his bold words and actions. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
Asha Rogers volunteers for the Christian charity SPEAK. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
As an organisation, they campaign and pray on issues of global justice | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
and so sympathise with the recent protest outside St Paul's Cathedral. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
'I think SPEAK is about living with the Bible in one hand and a newspaper in the other. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
'And about trying to develop a faith and theology which seeks to integrate the two.' | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
Prophecy is kind of about holding up a mirror to society | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
and saying, this is what you look like. God's not happy about that. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
So in a way, you could be seen as a modern-day prophet? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
I guess so, if you kind of look at it from that way, yeah. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
And I think we've got a prophetic message about the kind of society | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and the kind of world God wants to see. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
The people who started it were really passionate about creating | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
a movement of young people across the nation, really, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
who were going to be equipped to bring about social, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
political and spiritual transformation in their generation. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
I'm not actually camping here. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
But SPEAK as an organisation has signed the petition of Christian solidarity for the protest. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:11 | |
And as an organisation, we really support the right to peaceful protest. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Quite a lot of our campaigns really object to corporate greed | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
so the actual principle of the camp, we're really in support of. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
One campaign we did last year in particular was all about the arms trade. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
We made an enormous cardboard tank, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
which I was quite impressed at, it was a good creative effort. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
And then gave it as a present to the Government. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
So we have another campaign that we've done. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
We got cloth squares | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
and we got people to write down their prayers and their campaign messages | 0:12:44 | 0:12:50 | |
so we could make a big skirt and then we had too many. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
We made a big dress, which is actually a marquee | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
and it can fit 300 people inside. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
So we take it on tour to different places. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
I do believe change is possible. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
And I think at the heart of my understanding of the kingdom of God | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
is that God is the one who holds all things together | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
and he's given us this promise that he is never going to leave us | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
and that he will bring everything to restoration. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And the amazing thing about that is he gives us | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
an active invitation to be part of that. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I think SPEAK's real uniqueness is in being hopefully a prophetic voice to the church, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
but also we want to disciple the church into really understanding justice issues | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
and really seeing that as something that is not separate from faith, but it's really at the heart of it. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
'Gerald Coates is founder of Pioneer, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
'one of the new church networks which has over half a million members in the UK. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
'He believes prophecy is part of his ministry today.' | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
I've never been one for titles, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
so I don't go round calling myself a prophet, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
but yet, I've always wanted to speak on God's behalf. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Over many years, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
I discovered I was praying with people | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
at the end of meetings or in my home, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
and then they would say to me, "How did you know all of that? | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
"How did you know I was struggling with this? Had doubts about that?" | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
And of course I didn't know, and I'm suddenly aware there is someone else at work here. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
This HAS to be God. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
If you look in the Old Testament, which is the first part of the Bible, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
there are hundreds of prophecies, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
particularly about the most important person in the Bible, Jesus Christ, the Son of God - | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
celebrating his birth this Christmas. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Gerald, how would you define prophecy? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Summing up prophecy in 10 or 20 words is impossible, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
because you have to go back to a God who speaks, in Creation, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
through scripture, through prophets, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
through his Son, and today, in words and in actions. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
What do you mean about God speaking to you? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Do you actually hear his voice? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
It is something you see, something you feel, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
and you just know this is the voice of God. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
We can see a film and be spoken to, because we get the message. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
We hear a piece of music - "That music really spoke to me," and so on. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
So God speaks in all sorts of ways. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
Prophetic words and actions are just another way God speaks. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Let me give you an example. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
I was in an event and I'd just bought myself | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
a little microphone lapel badge. It probably cost me 75p. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
There was somebody speaking, he's quite well known, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
and I really felt God say, "I'm going to use this guy in television, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
"and I want you to give him your lapel microphone badge | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
"as a sign that he's going to be involved with the media." | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
And so I went to him and I told him why I was giving him this badge | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and I would be praying that he would be a success in mainstream media | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
and will be able to speak for God. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
And then I received a phone call a few days later | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
and his car had been stolen, his wallet, his cards and his jacket. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Everything had gone except for his briefcase, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
which he opened up and there inside was the little lapel microphone badge. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
The guy's name is Steve Chalke, and within months, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
he'd signed a major contract with a major television company, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and so much has come out of that he's now in and out of Downing Street, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
and raised huge sums of money for charities, because of the profile he had. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Those sort of things, they raise the sense of the presence of God and God's care for me | 0:19:10 | 0:19:15 | |
in a way that few other things can. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
# Said the night wind to the little lamb | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
-# Do you see what I see? -Do you see what I see? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
# Way up in the sky, little lamb | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
-# Do you see what I see? -Do you see what I see? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
# A star, a star, dancing in the night | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
# With a tail as big as a kite | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
# With a tail as big as a kite | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
# Said the little lamb to the shepherd boy | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
# Do you hear what I hear? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
# Ringing through the sky, shepherd boy | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
# Do you hear what I hear? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
# A song, a song, high above the tree | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
# With a voice as big as the sea | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
# With a voice as big as the sea | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
# Said the shepherd boy to the mighty king | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
-# Do you know what I know? -# Do you know what I know? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
# In your palace warm, mighty king | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
-# Do you know what I know? -# Do you know what I know? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
-# A child -# (A child shivers in the cold) | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
# Let us bring him silver and gold | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
# Let us bring him silver and gold | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
# Said the king to the people everywhere | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
# Pray for peace, people everywhere | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
# The child, the child, sleeping in the night | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
# He will bring us goodness and light | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
# He will bring us goodness and light. # | 0:21:39 | 0:21:47 | |
"The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
"They that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
"upon them hath the light shined." | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Light - at this time of year, it seems that everywhere, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
there are glimmers of light piercing through the darkness, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
from the most extravagant decorations | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
to the smallest candle flame. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
It's such a powerful symbol. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Jesus called himself the Light of the World, and centuries before, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:32 | |
the prophets used the language of light to express their hope. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:37 | |
Is there prophecy still to be fulfilled? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Yes, lots of the prophecies made in the Bible are yet to be fulfilled. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
For example, one talks about a time | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
when the lion and the lamb can lie down together. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Zoo-keepers are not obeying that prophetic word yet, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
because it's not true yet. There will come a time | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
when God will get rid of all injustice, all disease, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
all evil, all brokenness - in fact, at the end of the Bible, it says, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
God will come and wipe away every tear. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
There's a lot of tears in the world right now, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
so we're still waiting for these promises to be fulfilled. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
It's interesting, because Advent not only looks back | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
to the first coming of Jesus - it looks forward | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
to the time when Jesus will come again, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and we call this the Second Coming | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
and it won't be that he will be born in a stable, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and we'll wonder if we've missed it. He will come again, on the clouds, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
appearing to us, so that every knee shall bow, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
everyone will see him as he truly is, the King of Heaven. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
When that comes, then this new phase of history begins, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
when the lion can lie down with the lamb, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
and every tear will be wiped away. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Heavenly Father, who spoke through the prophets long ago, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
help us to hear Your voice today. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
Give us the strength to stand up for truth and for justice in Your name. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:23 | |
And at this time of Advent, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
remind us of the one the prophets were waiting for, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
Your son, Jesus Christ, Light of the World, Prince of Peace. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
Amen. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
I know there's so much more to explore about prophecy, but for me, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
the more I discover, the more wondrous | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
the story of that first Christmas becomes. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
And as we go into Advent, looking forward to all that's ahead, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
we leave you with an adaptation of Mary's words of praise | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
when she found out that she was to have a son, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
and he would be the fulfilment of all the prophets had predicted. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
Next week, Sally explores the significance of the birth of Jesus, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
when God came to share our humanity, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
with readings by Julian Rhind-Tutt | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
and seasonal hymns from All Saints Church, Cheltenham, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
plus music from Libera, Mary-Jess | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
and Only Men Aloud. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 |