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This week, I'm in Pembrokeshire, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
taking up a special invitation into a world few get to see. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
I'm going behind the scenes to witness life in a convent - | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Holy Cross Abbey - where, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
as part of their surprisingly busy lives here, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
the nuns tend the local land and run a bit of a food factory. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
It's the first time TV cameras have been allowed here to see those | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
who've made a decision to devote their life to God in this way. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
I don't think we choose it, I think we're actually invited. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
It's called a vocation and we don't do the calling. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
And I'll hear how one sister responded to the call. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
I thought, "No, no, no, no, I can't be a nun. No! Absolutely not." | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
We've songs old and new coming up, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
but we begin with a traditional favourite, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
which, given where we are, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
reflects the theme of Christian devotion and commitment. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
I've been given an exclusive welcome | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
to Holy Cross Abbey in Pembrokeshire, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
an enclosed community of nuns who follow the Cistercian tradition, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
which began in medieval France. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
And to see the variety of work going on here, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
I'm being given a guided tour of the estate | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
by the leader of the community, Mother Christine. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
-Well, these are our chickens. -A-huh. -And we sell their eggs. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
-And you have bees, too, don't you? -We do. We do. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
-And a lot of vegetables grow here, I imagine, as well. -Yes, yes. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
We've got potatoes, leeks, a variety of greens. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
I must show you our elderflower. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
-You've an abundance of it. -Yes. We use it to make our bubbly. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
-Ooo, maybe we can try some of that later. -Yes, yes. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
It's very environmental. It's very modern in some ways. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
We have an estate, we have gardens. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Are people surprised to find out how hands-on you all are? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:14 | |
I think, certainly when I first entered, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
I had friends who were very surprised. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
They thought I'd be kneeling in front of an altar every day | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
and doing nothing else. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
What's day-to-day life like here? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Well, we're a monastic community | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
and there is a monastic rhythm to the day. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
We get up for the first prayers of the day at 3:30 | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
and then we have times of prayer all through the day. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Am I right in thinking that you don't normally let cameras inside? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
We haven't done before. We're an enclosed community. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-But you've made an exception for Songs Of Praise. -Yes, we have. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-Thank you. -Yes. -Why do you choose to live in a closed community? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
I don't think we choose it, I think we're actually invited. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
It's called a vocation and we don't do the calling. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
When you hear some of the terrible things going on in the world, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
what can you do about it here? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
I think our life is one of intercession. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-Our Father... -ALL: Who art in heaven. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Intercession is a prayer for other people. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Whether they're ill or whether someone had died | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
or where there's a violent situation somewhere. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
ALL: And forgive us our trespasses. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
And when we use the word "us", we're not just talking about | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
our small community, we're talking about us, the world. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
You take onboard what other people are suffering. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
We just believe that prayer is a very powerful force. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
People often ask, "Oh, it must be so boring, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
"it must be the same every day". No day is the same. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
They're always different. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
And, um...you don't know what's going to happen the next day, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
especially when you're growing things and you've got animals. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
So, in the summer at least, you're self-sufficient here? | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Yes, but in many ways, being in the monastery makes you realise | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
that you're not self-sufficient at all. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
There's a great reliance, um...on the Lord. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
While Holy Cross is an enclosed community, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
the nuns here do come into contact with others. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
There are two male members of staff employed for the heavy-duty farming. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
And the sisters often take a trip into the local community. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Of course, we go out, we do our own shopping. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-Can I collect my prescription, please? -Yes. What's the name? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
And we have to go out for various things, so we're known locally. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Thanks very much. Thank you. You're welcome. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
-Thank you. Bye-bye. -OK. Bye-bye. Bye. -Bye. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
They know where we come from and they know who we are. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
We work in teams with most of what we do. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
Yes, there is a sort of ease with each other. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -And you, too. Sister Jean? | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
And although we are an enclosed community, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
there is a welcome and an openness for people who come. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Although they live in a modern building, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
the nuns at Holy Cross Abbey practise age-old traditions. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
One of which is singing plainchant in Latin. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
We don't have the skills that a lot of people have, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
so we have to do what we can with what we've got. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
We're all mixed abilities. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
You'd be surprised the number of women that come | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
who've been told to shut up or not to sing. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
But somehow, we have to encourage them to sing. We need their support. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
And I've never had anyone that can't sing in the end. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
They come up and they come down. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
If we come down gently, like we do on the Alleluias... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
But it doesn't matter that we're not professionals | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
because the heart goes into it. You have to put your heart into it. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
You couldn't do it any other way. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
And because you're singing it for God and to God, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
it is a dialogue, it's a prayer, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
but it's great fun and we really enjoy it. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
These are chants that have been sung for centuries. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
These are centuries old. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
In that way, they're certainly timeless. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
# O Sanctissima | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
# O Piissima | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
# Dulcis Virgo Maria | 0:13:17 | 0:13:27 | |
# O Sanctissima | 0:13:28 | 0:13:34 | |
# O Piissima | 0:13:34 | 0:13:40 | |
# Dulcis Virgo Maria | 0:13:40 | 0:13:50 | |
# Mater amta intemerata | 0:13:52 | 0:14:03 | |
# Ora ora pro nobis | 0:14:03 | 0:14:14 | |
# Mater amta intemerata | 0:14:14 | 0:14:25 | |
# Ora ora pro nobis | 0:14:25 | 0:14:38 | |
# Mater amta intemerata | 0:14:38 | 0:14:51 | |
# Ora ora pro nobis | 0:14:51 | 0:15:04 | |
# Amen | 0:15:06 | 0:15:13 | |
# Amen | 0:15:16 | 0:15:27 | |
# Amen. # | 0:15:28 | 0:15:35 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Every church tradition starts somewhere. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
And over the last few weeks, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
we've been looking at the origins of some of them. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
And this week, Richard Taylor is in Gloucestershire, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
looking at the founding of the Baptist church in the UK. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
The Baptist movement nowadays | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
numbers more than 40 million people spread all around the world. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
But for me, if you want to understand the origins, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
the energy and the sheer charisma of the Baptists, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
there's no better place to come than Tewkesbury. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
Historians trace modern Baptists to the early 17th century | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and the English separatists. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Separatists was the name given to anyone who objected to | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
and separated from the Church of England. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
They were regarded as a threat to society, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
to be imprisoned and even executed. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
And so, in 1609, a little group of separatists from Lincolnshire, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
led by a man called John Smyth, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
fled Britain to the religious freedom of Amsterdam. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
There, the group developed certain distinctive beliefs and practises | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
which we would now call Baptist, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
before re-importing their ideas to Britain. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:03 | |
Now, this is Tewkesbury Abbey, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
a vast and imposing symbol of the establishment. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Locals on a Sunday would have been expected to come here to worship. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
The great and the good at the front, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
servants and workers firmly at the back. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
And here, hidden away down this little backstreet | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
in the shadow of the abbey, is the Old Baptist Chapel. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
One of the earliest Baptist meetinghouses in the world. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
This little chapel is just stunning. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
It's so simple. Just plain walls and clear glass | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
and a pulpit for the preaching. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
The people who came here were artisans and servants. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
No wonder they preferred this to worshipping across the road at the abbey, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
behind the lords and ladies that they waited on during the week. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Here, they were with people who loved them, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
who treated them as an equal, who were their friends. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
John Smyth formulated what would become a central belief and ritual | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
of the Baptist movement. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
This is the Old Chapel's original baptismal pool. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
An amazing survival! | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
On a baptism day, it would have been filled to the brim with water | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
from the local well, and freezing cold. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Then the person to be baptised would be dressed in a light robe. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
And the minister would lead them down the steps | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
and into the pool, where, saying the words of baptism, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
they would be fully submerged, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
before being brought back up and into the light. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
It's a physical, public, exposing ritual, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
like being buried and brought back to life. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
And when they opened their eyes, they would see around them | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
their new family, the people who surrounded them here. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
To learn more about early Baptists, I'm talking to Simon Lawton, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
curator of the chapel. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Baptists were people that thought | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
the Reformation hadn't gone far enough. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
They wanted a return to a simpler, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
scripture-based version of religion. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
The Baptist ceremony in a private meeting house, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
which is what this would've been, gave them a chance | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
to actually debate and understand | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
the scripture and understand the Bible. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Some Baptist ceremonies, you hear cases of them smoking, being very relaxed | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
and, of course, a lot of Baptists would then troop along to the abbey | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and start to behave in a similar way there, which was a no-go. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
We're really fortunate in that our Baptists kept | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
a minute book that goes from 1655 right up until 1808. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
And what we've had done is had it digitised so people can actually | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
understand the mind-set of people from the 17th and 18th century. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
What sort of things are they saying? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
Ooo, they're always throwing people out | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
for swearing, fornication, drunkenness. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Our Baptists, they very much saw themselves | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
as a little island of the godly in the sea of the ungodly. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
It was from tiny seeds like this | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
that the worldwide Baptist movement was born. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
But what I find so remarkable is how little has changed. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
The same rituals, the same independence of spirit | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
and the same love for one another. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
At Holy Cross Abbey, the nuns produce | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
a range of food and drink onsite, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
including their own brew of elderflower bubbly. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Cheers to that! | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
But the main production line here is for wafer-thin Communion bread. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
It's a much-needed source of income | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
which helps keep the convent in business. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-Yes! -Yay! Success! | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
After being cut into shape, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
the wafers are sold to over 400 churches around the UK. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
And, in charge of the operation is Sister Jo, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
who's been a nun for 12 years. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
It's a far cry from her old life | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
as a senior nurse in accident and emergency. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
It was a great job, it really was. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
I had a good bunch of friends, I had a nice social life. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
So, you know, life was good. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
But just this horrible inside thing of, you know, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
-that there was something missing. -Mm-hm. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
And I was involved in a trip to France to a monastery | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
and for the first time in my life, I heard silence. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Not as an ear thing or a head thing, but as a heart thing. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
I can only say it was, you know, God's, er...kick up the... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
proverbial to get me moving, basically. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
And I thought, "No, no, no, no, I can't be a nun. No!" | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
As you go through the process of formation, it takes six years. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
And at the end of the six years, then you take your solemn vows. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
Jo, in the 12 years that you've been here, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
what are the biggest changes that you've experienced? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-If can imagine your workmates... -Mm-hm. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
..and then living with them. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
At 9:30, I'll be back. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
It requires a lot of charity on everybody's part. Ha-ha! | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
The prologue continued. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
The things I used to get picked up most on was my mouth. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
-There are words here that normally, I didn't think were that bad. -Mm-hm. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
But they are swearwords. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
Going to church seven times a day to praise God | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
means that when you're just stuck in with your work, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
or the meal just needs another five minutes, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-but I can't, I've got to go. -Yeah. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Then those are the disciplines that you have to say, "No". | 0:26:36 | 0:26:42 | |
-It drives you bonkers! -Yes. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
-You know, just two minutes and I could finish this! -Yep. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
But I'd be late and you don't want to be late. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
Because we pray together. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
And if one person's late, then it upsets the togetherness of it. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
And the fire and the smoke and the sulphur... | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Obviously, you know, there are times when, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
at the end of a day that hasn't gone your way | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
and you want to just go off to the pub somewhere | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
and have a chat and have a moan. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
And of course, we don't do that. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Um...and we sit there and we go, "God, what happened? | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
"Why did it go so horribly wrong?" | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Um... Or, you know, "Oh, help". | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
And you find that help is there? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
-And it is. -Yeah. -Yeah. Yeah. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
God wants us to be happy | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
-and we should have some joy in how we live, really. -Mm-hm. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
And are you happier here than you were 12 years ago, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
working in a busy A&E? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
Um...yes. Yes. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Yeah. Um...I can say that, you know, I wouldn't go back. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
Well, that's it from Holy Cross Abbey. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
It's been fascinating to meet the nuns | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
and to have a look behind what are usually closed doors. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
Before our final song, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
we join the sisters ending the day as they always do, in prayer. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
God of mercy and reconciliation, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
mercifully come to our aid. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
That as we receive your message of peace, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
so we may work with you to restore all things in Christ. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
ALL: Amen. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 |