22/04/2017 Click


22/04/2017

Click visits Paris to check out the world's biggest startup space, political 'holograms' and super-flavoured strawberries in shipping containers.


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This week: how to stay at your phone and change the world. Strawberries

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in a massive box. And fancy working in an enormous train station?

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I don't know if you have noticed, but there seems to have been the lot

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of election talk of late. This week, Click is taking a trip to Paris,

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where this weekend, the French take to the polls in the first round of

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their presidential election. And, curiously, from a technology point

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of view, the way we vote seems if anything to be going backwards. In

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the last election, France did allow online voting for those living

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overseas. But not this time. For both the presidential elections and

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the legislative elections in June it is back to pen and paper. And that

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is due to the fear of cyber attacks, which the French nationals cyber

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Security agency says are an extremely high risk. Queues of

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people, paper voting... Surely there has to be a better way. Well, we

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asked ABC News beat's political editor, Jonathan Blake, to have a

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look. Ancient institutions and modern technology. The two do not

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always go together. As elections are held worldwide throughout 2017 that

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could radically reshape the political landscape, most people

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will cast their vote in the same way it has been done for decades, using

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a pencil and paper to put across in a box. In the UK, election turnout

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has fallen steadily. Those campaigning for online voting say

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the system is stuck in the past, and it is time to digitise our

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democracy. It would make politicians pay attention more to the groups

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that would be an franchise by this method of voting. So those groups

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would be young people, because they are the ones who engage most online.

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And groups like people with disabilities or with vision

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impairments, of whom there are two million in this country, voters

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abroad, and the Armed Forces, if they have this accessibility to

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boating, politicians will have to listen to them. One company is

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working on a way to make voting more convenient, and they say, more

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secure, with an app that lets you register and vote by selfie. Uses

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facial biometrics and combine that with some sort of government

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document, whether it is a passport or driver 's licence, to create a

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digital identity which the voter is in control of. So this is a

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demonstration version of the app which Smartmatic have made. We will

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start registering, first of all. It is asking me to take a selfie. Panik

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stages to add photo ID. We will go with drivers license because I have

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that handy. Once the idea is matched to your face, the Apple confirms you

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are registered to vote. And we are voting for Rush Field Borough

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Council, which is not a real place. It is asking me to take a photo, so

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I hold up a camera and phone will take a selfie automatically. So here

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there is a list of candidates, the same you would see on the ballot

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paper. I don't need to tell you who are voting for, so I won't, I will

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pick one at random. And that's it. It says you have cast your vote

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successfully and it has given me a unique receipt number which I can

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either copy or centre myself by e-mail. You are asking people to

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take a photo of their face, capture an image of the photo

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identification. How secure is that information. Where does it go? The

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digital identity you create is unique to you and it stays on your

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device, on your personal mobile phone or tablet. Whatever you use to

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take it. It doesn't get stored anywhere. You are in control of it

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at all times and you are in control of what pieces of information you

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use to create that idea, and who you share it with. When it comes to

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security, we apply a non-standard, additional layers of security, in

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terms of really strongly encrypting the vote on your device, to add that

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additional layer of protection. But concerns about cyber security mean

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countries once embracing the use of technology in democracy are having

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second thoughts. In the Netherlands, where the voting system has been

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computerised since 2008, this year they are counting votes by hand. But

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the country that has earned a reputation as the electronic voting

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capital of the world is sticking to its guns. Estonia is almost the

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sensitive about its digital identity. Here in Estonia, everyone

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from the age of 15 carries a government issued photo ID card.

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Using this an accompanying PIN numbers you can access your bank,

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phone company, energy firm, and a lot of official information. You can

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see this man's name, address, date of birth, where he went to school,

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health records, everything down to what car he drives. In Estonia,

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voting is just another thing you can do online. Download software, user

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ID card and pin to make a selection, and vote from the comfort of your

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home or wherever is convenient. Around one in three voters now cast

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online, but officials admit it has not boosted turnout. The internet

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voter is a transformed paper voter. Having a novelty, a convenient

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method of voting, is not enough to bring people from the no voting zone

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back to voting, or to voting. Of course, you need other incentives.

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You need policy, you need reason to vote. I think it is interesting, but

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it needs proper security, and right now the measures are not good

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enough, in my opinion. Using the smart idea we have, it is easy and

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quick access to everywhere. I have used it, and I think it is very

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useful and it is very convenient. So I don't have to go somewhere to

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queue. Other countries seem reluctant to follow Estonia's lead.

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A British minister responsible for elections told me the government is

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looking only at taking very small steps. They have identification

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cards, and they keep the systems. It is a very different space to what we

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have in the UK where they don't have a privacy agenda about protecting

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individual citizens' rights, and protecting their own data. People

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are happy to do their banking online, shopping online. Why not use

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technology to enable people to vote more easily? Going forwards, we have

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got to make sure that while we embrace technology and we embrace

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things like online registration, online voting is a situation where

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if we believe the current paper and pen method is the best way forward,

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than actually it means that each individual's vote is counted

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equally, one voter, one vote. As technology advances, calls to

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digitise democracy will continue, but so will concerns about cyber

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security. So the pencil and paper may well always have its place. That

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was Jonathan Blake, and world technology may not be applied to

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voting at these French elections, it has certainly been causing a stir in

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other ways. Keen to draw attention to his campaign, a far left

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candidate took to the stage this week, addressing a crowd of 6000 at

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a rally in Dijon. But at the same time appeared at six other rallies

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across the world. They call it a hologram, we call it smoke and

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mirrors. It is not the first time politicians have used this tech to

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further their agenda. India's PM Narendra Modi used it during his

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campaign, and the Turkish President, Erdogan, used his avatar to appear

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at a meeting he couldn't make in person. A political journalist,

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sought Melenchon's first meeting. It was a meeting in France, he was out

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Lyon, with Marine Le Pen, and there was at the same time a big meeting

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with Macron, in Lyon, as well. So he knew that he was not the top

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politician. So it was a matter for him to be... To stand out. Yes. Now,

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we have seen the Peppers ghost allusion before on Click, and even

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allowing me to get down with Psy in Korea. But addressing Melenchon

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allowed him to address six venues simultaneously. The trick was to

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arrange film lighting, which is pretty much identical to this, on a

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trust, a picture frame trust, very similar, and angling and lighting

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the stages. All around the destinations you are broadcasting

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to. The camera in front of the stage filmed a wide shot, and the signal

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was broadcast over satellite 25 French cities, and Reunion Island,

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off the coast of Madagascar. Do you feel that this is the way that

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elections will be fought in the future, with holograms and

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technology and showmanship? No, I don't think so. I think it is really

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a true for Melenchon. The media were already there to see and to speak

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about it. I don't think that it is the way of making politics for the

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future days. What will this tech really help connect voters to

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politicians, or is this transparent projection just a gimmicky barrier

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that gets in the way? Egalite, oui! Welcome one at all to the church of

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Facebook, this is F8, the company's development conference which this

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year is being held in San Jose. I am here to find out what Mark

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Zuckerberg things we will want in the years and decades to come. I

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will start with the stuff that is happening right away for. Facebook,

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you will know that have notice, is locked in a battle over augmented

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reality tools like this. You can have a second coffee mug so it looks

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like you are not having Breakfast alone. Facebook also launched

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Spaces, a place to interact with avatars of your friends in virtual

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reality when you can't look up in real life. The company is also

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releasing these curious little cameras for capturing real-life

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scenes, in full, high-quality 360. The innovation here is that ability

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for the camera to record footage which has depth. It allows what is

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known as six degrees of freedom. I can lead in -- lenient and Kia

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around, even though the camera which took the footage I am seeing hasn't

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actually moved anywhere. In the past, you were frozen in the middle

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of a world, as if you were seeing a painting on the ceiling. We wanted

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you to actually be able to lenient and actually see the depth. At here

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is a need little trek. The depth perception also means you can add a

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kind of green screen effect without needing a green screen. Once you

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have that information, it is really built on the fact that you have

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captured the depth. You not only know the colour of that flower, you

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know how far it is a way, and you know how far the ground behind it is

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a way, and you can just subtract the ground away and replace it with

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grass, instead of Rocks Orbach. F8 is also about thinking what made it

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coming much further down the line. This little helicopter is another

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one of Facebook's attempts to bring connectivity too difficult to reach

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places. It is tethered to the ground, but once in the air it can

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beam internet to an area below, perfect for helping people in

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disaster zones. They have made it in conjunction with the San Francisco

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-based start-up. The idea is to basically build instant

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infrastructure. So it is an aircraft on a tether, where fibre and power

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run-up essentially the strongest your Mac longest extension cord you

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have ever seen, so in an earthquake or a cyclone, you can set up in the

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sky and instantly provide internet to all the people who need relief,

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and can't be reached because of disaster. And then, just when we

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thought the new ideas were over, things got weird. What if you could

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type directly from your brain? Even something as simple as a yes/ no

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brain click would fundamentally change our capability. It is many

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years off. They may never be able to do it. But this is the plan.

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Hardware and software that would allow you to post to Facebook

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without moving a muscle. So that's it for another year, and as they

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pack up, we are all left pondering the question, do I really want to

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plug Facebook into my brain? Now, back to Paris. And how would

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you feel about renting your car to a complete stranger? Well, believe it

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or not, here, there is an app that lets you do just that. Drivey has

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been operating for six years. Over 40,000 car owners have chosen to

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list their cars on the platform, mainly in France, Germany, and

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Spain, racking up 1-and-a-half million days of rentals. The alp

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gives me a list of vehicles available in the designated area.

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And then I can slow through pictures and details of each car. -- app. It

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is basically a B for your car. -- Airbnb. Here in the start-up, it has

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all the signs of a start-up. And how they convince people to learn their

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cars to others? Because I am British, maybe, but I think it is a

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crazy idea to hire my car to other people. Giving Norn would partake in

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this because of the risk and damage? We knew from the start that it would

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sound like a crazy 80 two rent your car to most people. But the question

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is if some people would agree it was a good idea and efficient, and these

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are the people we target. Give it is a reason why sharing services do

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very well. I think that special because it has the fact that

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businesses go well in the law is enforced, with still a Mediterranean

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culture. British and Americans are more scared about lending their

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cars. I heard that you teach kids about stranger danger in Britain.

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And that is something we don't know in France. And maybe less trusted

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people you don't know and less willingness to share time or things

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with other people. You have been to London, then, clearly. Can you find

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a lost car? We can geo- locate cars and see where the car is going and

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how it is behaving. You can use the accelerometer to sit there are in

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fact. -- impacts. The development is an autonomous cars are playing to

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our favour, because the amount of darker and control over the way that

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it is driven is going to increase until it is autonomous, and then

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whoever is in the car is no longer a problem, except for sandwich crumbs

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or something like that. In their early stages, start-ups like Drivy

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famously used desks anywhere they could find them. And very soon, a

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lot of those desks could be here. In the biggest start-up incubator I

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have ever seen. Goodness me! And that is because when it opens in

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June, this 90-year-old Paris train station will become the world's

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biggest start-up incubator. The director spoke to me earlier. What I

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like are these future Pods APA. What are those? These are our meeting

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rooms. -- -- pods up here. Massive walls, pens they are, you can put

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things up on the walls? I hope so. If you are a start-up, you need to

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write on the glass. Station F is full of big numbers. Privately

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funded, it cost 250 million euros. It has 34,000 square metres of floor

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space. It is as long as the Eiffel Tower is tall. It will seat 3000

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entrepreneurs, and that is just in the middle section. We have not even

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got to that bit yet. So this is the start-up zone. Oh my goodness, that

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is insane. And filling it with building dust like this makes it

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look awesome. And below us, we actually have showers and lockers if

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an entrepreneur was to stay all night, he can. What you mean if

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somebody was to stay all night? That is part of an entrepreneur! It may

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seem like overkill, it does to me, but Roxanne is confident that France

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can not only compete for start-up interest with the likes of the US

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and the UK, but in these uncertain times, it actually has an advantage.

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We've actually seen the impact of Brexit, we have seen the impact of

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Donald Trump in the US, and silicon valley prices of its currency --

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have been skyrocketing. A lot of countries that would have looked at

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UK are now looking at France and other places in the EU. France is

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currently second, behind the UK, in terms of both money raised in the

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darker, AI, and other deep tech in the last two years. -- data. And

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also in the size of its workforce. So it might not need a massive leap.

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Everybody gets a locker? Everybody gets a locker. I like this under

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lighting. Do you think in France, there are more regulations, more red

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tape, more official stuff that you how to cut through? I do think that

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administratively, it is a place that has potentially more complexity than

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elsewhere. It depends on what ecosystem you are comparing two will

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stop them may promote seen here in France is that things change. When a

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new administration comes in every three years, we are changing things

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that we have put into place. And start-ups cannot keep up. Every

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years they have a completely different tax credit or scheme, so

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there needs and that is stable and that they can count on. Not that red

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tape is was a problem here. One start-up in a northern suburb has

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really been given permission to place three of its pods around the

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city. So, what on earth is Agricool that makes the shipping container so

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desirable? It is a strawberry farm! You probably know that fruit sold in

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city supermarkets has usually been on a long journey over several days

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to get there. And that means it has to be picked before it is right and

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is not as sweet or nutritious as it would be if it was left on the

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plant. This is a way of keeping fruit on the plant in cities until

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the very last minute. There you go, for walls of strawberries bedding

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under LED lights. These are the sources of water in a closed loop

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system. Here are your nutrients, and over here, a box of bumblebees. Did

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you know you could order bumblebees by the box? I didn't. That is where

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they live, and that is where the pollination occurs. Agricool is

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currently experimenting with different colours of light and

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different mixes of nutrients in order to get the very best

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strawberries. Inside, we are creating a real paradise. Based on

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their, the CO2 level, the best light. It is 125,000 times more

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productive. Using 90% less water. No pesticides, and only renewable

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energy. The two founders, sons of farmers, have noticed how tomatoes

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and strawberries that have been transported over long distances are

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tougher in order to survive the journey. They try to find the best

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pieces, they can last longer, that have lighter skins than the fruit

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usually does. More skin and less fruit inside. It affects the case.

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Just to be clear, the shipping containers won't move. They will be

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permanent fixtures in cities. And with a minutely controlled climate,

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a new batch of strawberries can be grown in another room weeks -- every

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11 weeks. Giving people in the city the case to the country all year

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round. If you dig about the amount of agricultural land that has been

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swallowed up across the planet every day, this could be the future of

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buying. -- if you think about. That is it from Paris for the moment.

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There seems to be a lot going on here. We had to come back soon. But

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check us out on Twitter. -- have to.

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