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Fiscal union or bust - Germany and France edged towards a far-reaching | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
political deal to save the euro. Chancellor Merkel and President | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
Sarkozy talk of a new European treaty to impose strict control | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
over national budgets. TRANSLATION: We need fiscal unity with strong | :00:23. | :00:33. | |
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powers of intervention, at least Welcome to GMT. Also in the | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
programme, standing together for Burmese democracy. Aung San Suu Kyi | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
says she is cautious but hopeful after talks with Hillary Clinton. | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
Preparing for the final exit - the Americans hand over Camp Victory, | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
their biggest military base inside Iraq. | :00:59. | :01:08. | |
It is 12:30pm in London. Chancellor Angela Merkel today told the German | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
parliament that only strict new rules enforcing fiscal discipline | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
could rebuild trust in the euro- zone. There is no quick fix, she | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
said, it is a process that will take years. Mrs Merkel and | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
President Sarkozy of France are attempting to come up with a joint | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
plan for significant changes to the EU treaty which governs the euro- | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
zone. But will talk of fiscal union be enough to calm the fears of a | :01:31. | :01:37. | |
break-up of the common currency? From Europe's biggest economic | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
power, the latest message that it really is time to think big on the | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
euro crisis, as another crisis summit looms. The key political | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
figure in all this is the return must start work on tighter fiscal | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
union, but also warned that the crisis will be a long haul. | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
TRANSLATION: There are no easy solutions. Especially not as some | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
people insist on staying ahead of every summit, the apparent one last | :02:02. | :02:12. | |
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push. That is neither my kind of language, nor my way of thinking. | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
The resolution of the euro crisis is a process, and this process will | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
take years. In France, President Sarkozy delivered his own, sombre | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
judgment that Europe is not measured up in this crisis. He said | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
the French and Germans had agreed on the need for a revised treaty to | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
tackle the failures and weaknesses of the euro. TRANSLATION: France is | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
fighting for a new treaty, more disciplined, more solidarity, a | :02:40. | :02:47. | |
true economic government. Britain's David Cameron, in Paris to meet his | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
old ally from the Libby conflict. The two men are not as close on the | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
euro crisis. Mr Cameron will be anxious to hear what is on the | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
table in terms of possible treaty changes, and how much instep France | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
and Germany really are now. His calls for action may have irritated | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
his French host on occasion, at the same time, he is worried Britain | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
could become more marginalised. The longer the euro storm goes on, the | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
more both the French and British economies could be blown off course, | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
as could President Sarkozy's re- election hopes. On Monday, the big | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
two will have their latest get together to thrash out their joint | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
ideas. Mrs Merkel may have talked in terms of years to sort out the | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
euro, but the focus now is on the crisis calendar that will lead to | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
Brussels again at the end of next week, and the latest crunch EU | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
summit. So, France and Germany doing their | :03:43. | :03:49. | |
best to calm the storm around the euro, is it working? Let's go to | :03:49. | :03:56. | |
Brussels. What you're hearing from Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy, | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
is it convincing view that there is a credible plan to restore faith in | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
the EU wrote? I think what I hear it is good news, but it is not | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
convincing yet. To be convincing, we need detail on how they want to | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
do it, whether they really agree to give up national sovereignty and | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
put it to a European level. That is something we have to hear next week. | :04:20. | :04:28. | |
Giving up so run deep -- sovereignty is the key. Do you | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
think the Germans want Sarkozy to give up more? I think the Germans | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
are now determined to give up more, they want to push this thing ahead, | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
push towards fiscal union, a stability Union, as they like to | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
call it. This will include more giving up of sovereignty by the | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
French. Would it go so far as some have suggested, as to see the | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
creation of a year -- euro-zone finance ministry, essentially | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
running national economies across the euro-zone, from Brussels or | :05:02. | :05:08. | |
Frankfurt? I think this is possibly the ultimate scenario. I don't | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
think we was in national parliaments being closed down as of | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
next year, but we do need a central organisation, a European | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
organisation, which really has a say. This will prevent the horse | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
trading we have had over the last 10 years in the country breaches | :05:25. | :05:32. | |
the rules. The problem Mrs Merkel pointed to today, is it is going to | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
take years to sort out such a fundamental shift inside the | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
European Union. For you as a banker, is it important that the other | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
discussion about immediate short- term action still continues, | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
considering the role of the European Central Bank, and the | :05:49. | :05:56. | |
possibility of Euro bonds? Obviously, the fiscal integration | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
is one part of the resolution of the problem. The other one, the | :06:00. | :06:06. | |
short-term fix, will be giving the European Central Bank a bigger role. | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
Politicians cannot give the EC be a bigger role, the ECB will have to | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
take this role and decide it on its own. If politicians decide on more | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
fiscal union next week, I think the ECB will be willing to do more, and | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
then we will have a good combination between a short-term | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
fix and a long-term solution. markets look sanguine today, they | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
are pretty much around the world. But that could change pretty | :06:31. | :06:38. | |
quickly. Is this coming summit of EU leaders in a few days, is that | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
make-or-break? It is not make-or- break, but it is very important. We | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
have had so many make-or-break summit over the last month, I don't | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
think that on 10th December, everything will be over the Sun | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
will be shining. But it will be very important on the red was a | :06:58. | :07:07. | |
better euro-zone. Thank you for joining us. | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
The Burmese pro-democracy leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, says she is | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
confident there will be no turning back on the road to democracy in | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
Burma. But she warned that the country had a long way to travel. | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
She was speaking after talks at her home with the US secretary of state, | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
Hillary Clinton. It was the second meeting between the two women | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
during Mrs Clinton's historic visit to Burma. Mrs Clinton also met the | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
Burmese president, Thein Sein, on Thursday. | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
Our correspondent has been travelling with Mrs Clinton. This | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
is her assessment of the trip. Never before has this house | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
welcomed such a high-profile foreign visitors. The American | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, arrived in the morning in her black | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
limousine, for a second meeting with Burma's noble react. Aung San | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
Suu Kyi's home is where she was held in detention for almost two | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
decades, but the fact that she can welcome Hillary Clinton here is a | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
sign that perhaps things are changing in Burma. As the US tests | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
the waters and tries to re-engage with this isolated country, Aung | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
San Suu Kyi's influence over this process cannot be overestimated. A | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
few weeks ago, President Obama called Aung San Suu Kyi, they spoke | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
for over 45 minutes. She told him she bullied the country's president, | :08:31. | :08:38. | |
Thein Sein, was serious about reform -- she believed. Only then | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
did President Obama announced he was sending his top diplomat to the | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
country. Aung San Suu Kyi and her political party are now re-entering | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
the political process. She herself said she would stand for Parliament | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
in the upcoming by-elections. These have been extraordinary days for | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
Burma, but these are also early days. In the coming months, | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
Washington, Aung San Suu Kyi, and the Burmese people will be watching | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
closely to see if this country's leadership does indeed deliver on | :09:08. | :09:16. | |
its promise for change. The government of Taiwan says it is | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
planning to issue a passport to the exiled former prime minister, | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
Thaksin Shinawatra. Mr Thaksin lives in Dubai after being | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
convicted of corruption and stripped of his Thai passport under | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
the last government. The current government, led by his sister, says | :09:31. | :09:38. | |
the past but will be issued as a new year's gift. Herman Cain, one | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
of the Republican presidential candidate in the US, has admitted | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
giving money to a woman who said they had a 13 year affair. He said | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
he repeatedly helped the woman, Ginger White, with build and | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
expenses, but denies having sex with her. | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
The UN Human Rights Council is holding an emergency session on | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
Syria to discuss evidence that President Assad's security forces | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
have committed crimes against humanity. The meeting in Geneva | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
comes in the wake of a UN report accusing Syrian forces of operating | :10:09. | :10:16. | |
a shoot-to-kill policy against unarmed protesters. | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
The US military has handed over control of its former headquarters | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
in Iraq to the Baghdad authorities as part of the plan to pull out all | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
American soldiers by the end of the year. Camp Victory were set up on | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
the outskirts of the capital in a former country club built by Saddam | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
Hussein. At its peak, it was home to nearly 50,000 US service | :10:35. | :10:45. | |
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personnel. Let's cross live to Baghdad now. It | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
is a highly symbolic moment, isn't it? Very symbolic, very iconic, as | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
you sit in your introduction. This used to be a huge complex, it was | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
more of a city than a complex. This is where US officials, generals, | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
used to draw strategies for Iraq, oversee the execution of these | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
strategies, and now it is under full control of the Iraqi | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
authorities. What are the Iraqis going to do with it? I just spoke | :11:17. | :11:24. | |
to be defence spokesperson, and he said that this place is listed | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
under the properties of the government of Iraq now, they have | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
no plans to use it for military purposes, but some parts of it | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
might be turned to museums, or maybe they might make use of the | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
parks inside the complex. Iraqis have made it plain they do | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
not want to see any residual US forces left behind in Iraq, so how | :11:45. | :11:54. | |
close are we now to the last set of American Boots' leading Iraqi soil? | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
Theoretically, the last soldier must leave Iraq by the end of this | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
month, the end of this year. But it seems that the pace of this | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
withdrawal is getting quicker, and it might be even before the end of | :12:06. | :12:13. | |
this year. Thank you are joining us. While many countries are suffering | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
from an economic downturn, some are still enjoying rapid growth. Among | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
them, Argentina, where the economy grew by more than 9% last year. An | :12:22. | :12:25. | |
extraordinary number, when you remember that a decade ago, the | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
Argentine peso collapsed, there were riots in the street, and the | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
country defaulted on its foreign debt. Even now, many people feel | :12:36. | :12:45. | |
the effects of that crisis. Argentina is growing at full force. | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
The country is enjoying one of the biggest booms in its history, and | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
is one of the fastest-growing economies on the planet. On BT | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
streets like this one hearing Buenos Aires, you can sense a | :12:57. | :13:03. | |
vibrant country. One that has left behind the shadows of a dark past. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
A decade ago, Argentina had one of the worst economic knockdowns in | :13:07. | :13:14. | |
history. On 3rd December 2001, the Argentine government restricted the | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
amount of money people can withdraw from banks, prompting widespread | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
unrest and the downfall of the government. In one week, the | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
country had five presidents, and defaulted on its external debt | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
repayments. Many Argentines suffered huge losses. Before the | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
crisis, this woman had savings to buy an apartment, but months later, | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
after the crisis, the money had lost so much value that it was only | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
enough for a par. It was very sad, because it was our hope to have a | :13:47. | :13:55. | |
new house, a new quality of life for our family, our children. And | :13:55. | :14:02. | |
in just one day, because of political decisions, we had lost | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
that opportunity. Argentina's economy had been growing steadily | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
for eight years, boosted by the exports of soy beans. But the | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
recovery was also built at a number of steps taken by the authorities. | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
What was done was to establish some pillars, one of the pillars was to | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
reduce, as much as possible, the fiscal imbalance and converted into | :14:25. | :14:34. | |
a surplus if possible. The second pillar was established, also a | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
competitive exchange rate. But the consequences of the crust is still | :14:38. | :14:45. | |
affect Argentinians today. -- of the crisis. A for our society, it | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
was something completely new, so I never put my savings in the bank | :14:48. | :14:58. | |
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Argentina seems to have recovered her groove and this could prove | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
hopeful for the troubled European countries today. | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
Still to come: The aye rate calls keep coming. Jeremy Clarkson's | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
comments about striking British workers prompt thousands of | :15:18. | :15:27. | |
complaints to the BBC. Right now, it's time for the | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
business news. We've been talking about the eurozone today, but of | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
course, very important jobs figures out of the US today. | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
Yes, we're expecting 125,000 new jobs to have been added to the jobs | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
labour market in November. These are hugely important figures. | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
Everyone watches what's going on in the US with keen interest. We have | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
had some positive economic data out of the US in recent weeks. We've | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
had strong consumer confidence figures and improved manufacturing | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
picture, but it's worth remembering that the eurozone crisis has been a | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
problem for the US economy. The markets there are very worried. | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
Let's list ton what this analyst had to say. It's been known for a | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
flexible labour market that bounces back quickly after recession, we're | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
actually seeing the opposite in this recession al recovery. The | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
labour market is improving, but it's improving extremely slowly and | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
it's patchy. It's worth remembering this is really important, the US | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
economy is a huge issue for re- election for President Obama as | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
well. Now, I am going to drag you back to Europe, because leaving | :16:32. | :16:38. | |
aside what Sarkozy's up to with Cameron and Angela Merkel, | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
manufacturers are worried about the state of the eurozone, particularly | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
the car makers. They're meeting, they've been meeting in Brussels | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
today. All the car makers are coming together in a big group. We | :16:49. | :16:57. | |
have Ford Europe, the boss of Fiat, they are together to complain about | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
eurozone leaders about how they're handling the crisis. Their argument | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
is that they're eroding consumer confidence by not solving the | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
crisis. When that's eroded what do people do? They buy less, in | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
particular they spend less on cars. They're worried the prospects for | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
the car industry look bleak. Let's see what this analyst had to say. | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
We are looking at a situation where we have to slash production. It | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
will have negative effect on employment. Also on growth, | :17:28. | :17:35. | |
innovation and on the industry as a whole. We are unfortunately afraid | :17:35. | :17:41. | |
that we are moving back where we were in 2008/09. The boss of Fiat | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
has come out and said that 2012 could be a year of stagnation for | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
the car industry and he also said he warned that if things don't | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
change soon, he could take Fiat out change soon, he could take Fiat out | :17:55. | :18:03. | |
of Italy because he wants to save money. Now the markets: the markets | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
are up, why? Because of the important news information out of | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
the US. Also the European Central Bank is talking about lending money, | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
so markets are more positive. Plenty of green despite the crisis. | :18:16. | :18:25. | |
We want to hear what you think. Get in touch with us. Go to our website, | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
bbc.co.uk/GMT. More on the European bbc.co.uk/GMT. More on the European | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
debt crisis, and plenty more as well. | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
This is GMT from BBC World News. I'm Stephen Sackur. The headlines: | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
Germany's Chancellor, Angela Merkel, calls for greater fiscal unity in | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
the eurozone, but warns finding a solution to the crisis could take | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
years. Burma's pro-democracy leader, Aung | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
San Suu Kyi, says she's confident of reforms in her country, after | :18:53. | :19:00. | |
talks with Hillary Clinton. A rebel Libyan soldier, shot during | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
the battle for Tripoli, has been talking about his treatment here in | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
the UK. He had his lower right leg amputated after doctors in London | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
decided that it could not be saved. He's one of 50 Libyans who the | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
British Government said they would treat at the request and cost of | :19:17. | :19:27. | |
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This man didn't come to Britain expecting to luz a foot, but he's | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
now coming to terms with his new pros theet is. He was shot three | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
times the day Tripoli fell to anti- Gaddafi forces. He fought alongside | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
friends and strangers, armed with a hunting rifle. One bullet exploded | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
in his lower right leg, shattering his bones. | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
TRANSLATION: I was shot in the battle with the Gaddafi brigades. | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
In the first five minutes, I felt nothing. After that, I fell down. | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
His surgeon says amputation was the best option. He'd had a severe | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
injury to the bones of the leg. But he'd also, because of the blast | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
injury, had lost a lot of soft tissues, down to and including the | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
ankle joint, so that was open. It was clear he had deep infection. | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
You could see the state of the wound and smell the bacteria. | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
had his lower right leg removed the very day Colonel Gaddafi was | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
captured and killed. His physiotherapist says he's making | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
good progress. I think since the surgery and since having the limb | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
fitted, he can probably see now that he's making progress and that | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
he's actually going to return to a fully independent life and be able | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
to do all the things he was doing before. I think generally, he's -- | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
his mood is improving and he's working really well in the gym and | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
he's making great progress. patient himself remains | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
philosophical. TRANSLATION: When I left home and I | :21:01. | :21:05. | |
went to fight, I was expecting even to die, so although -- all the | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
options were there. This is fate or destiny from God. I believe in that. | :21:11. | :21:20. | |
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I accepted this. The international criminal courts | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
chief prosecuter has requested ab arrest warrant for Sudan's Defence | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
Minister. He's wanted for alleged crimes against humanity and war | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
crimes committed in Darfur in 2003 and 2004. The ICC already has | :21:36. | :21:40. | |
issued an arrest warrant for Sudan's President over allegations | :21:40. | :21:48. | |
of genocide. Now, the BBC has received over | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
21,500 complaints over TV presenter, Jeremy Clarkson. Can you see him | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
behind me, fine figure of a fell ya. His off-hand comments about | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
striking workers in Britain. The Top Gear presenter has apologised | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
for any offence caused and said his comments were never meant to be | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
taken seriously. Here's what he said. Frankly, I'd have them all | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their | :22:13. | :22:20. | |
families. I mean, how dare they go on strike, when they've got these | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
gilt edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed, while the rest of | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
us have to work for a living. incident doesn't appear to have | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
been laid to rest with that sort of apology and words issued by Jeremy | :22:36. | :22:42. | |
Clarkson afterwards, calls continue to come into the BBC. Let's hear | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
from James Delingpole, a columnist for the Spectator magazine. This is | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
dividing Britain right now. Where do you line up on the debate, for | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
or against his right to say what he said? I'm for free speech and I'm | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
for Jeremy Clarkson. Let's examine what happened here. Jeremy Clarkson | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
was invited on the BBC to be Jeremy Clarkson. Jeremy Clarkson behaved | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
like Jeremy Clarkson. I think your viewers all around the world will | :23:10. | :23:17. | |
have seen shows like Top Gear. They know what he's like. He said some | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
Clarkson-ish things. Apparently this had been agreed beforehand | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
with the show's producers - Hang on, I'm going to stop you right now. | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
What is this idea that Jeremy Clarkson has every right to be as | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
offensive as possible. Are you saying there's nothing he could say | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
that would be unacceptable? I think we need to learn to be grown ups | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
and be treated like grown ups. I think context is all. If you looked | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
at Jeremy Clarkson's words in bold print, you might think, "That's a | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
bit dodgy." When you hear him delivering them in his Jock lar | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
style and you heard the laughter in the studio audience there. They | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
knew he was Clarkson being Clarkson. That perfectly acceptable. What | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
about the argument that the biggest crime of all that he was | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
staggeringly unfunny. Humour is a matter of taste. What you're saying, | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
he should be shot for that? It's interesting you come back to the | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
phrase "shot for that". Is talking about executions and people being | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
shot in public, is that in any way, ever funny? I think it would depend | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
probably on what kind of regime you lived under. There are parts of the | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
world where people are shot and that would be very worrying. It | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
doesn't generally happen in Britain. We have a culture of tolerance. And | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
tolerance, which extends or traditionally has done to freedom | :24:33. | :24:40. | |
of speech. We treat our perfect like -- people like gron ups. They | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
can use context to decide whether somebody is fomenting hate. There's | :24:45. | :24:51. | |
no question, he was being jocular. What does it say about Britain, | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
many around the world will know Jeremy Clarkson as one of the | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
leading figures of entertainment in Britain. Many see him as a boarish | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
figure. What does it say about Britain that he is so popular. | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
also see him as rather refreshing and outspoken in a culture | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
dominated by political correctness, which unfortunately the tone is set | :25:11. | :25:17. | |
for that by the BBC itself. So you do see, what you're saying and | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
perhaps what he says as a fight against PC behaviour, do you? | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
Absolutely. I think that Jeremy Clarkson, behind the jocularity of | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
his remarks, was making a serious point about the public sector. | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
Those public sector strikes he was talking about, were a massive flop. | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
They were a flop tore two reasons: First of all, they weren't nearly | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
as widespread that the militants of the left had hoped they'd be. And | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
they focused a lot of people's anger, people in the private sector, | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
who have been really suffering during this recession, are aghast | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
to see how the public sector is being feather bedded by ring-fenced | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
pensions... James, you've expressed a series of views that are, it's | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
fair to say, right-wing views in this country. Is that the way it | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
lines up, if you're pro-Clarkson you tend to be right-wing and | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
conservative? It doesn't have to be about left or right. There are lots | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
of people working in shops, on factory floors in the private | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
sector who feel, who may be traditional Labour voters. They | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
probably feel just as strongly about this as people like me do. It | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
is not just that the public sector is better paid and has better | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
pensions than the private sector. They are not taking their share of | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
the misery, which we are all suffering in the recession. | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
suspect many people will have views on what you just said, thank you | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
for joining us. Before we go, let's remind you of the main story: | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
Chancellor, Angela Merkel, today told the German Parliament that | :26:49. | :26:53. |