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Thousands of Egyptians lose patience with the country's interim


military rulers as protesters stream into Cairo's Tahrir square.


The escalating protests raise pressure on the military to


handover power sooner than they are Welcome to GMT. I'm Zeinab Badawi.


Also in the programme: Turkey's President Abdullah Gul on a state


visit to Britain says Syria has reached a dead end and that change


is intevitable. And we speak to the the African American writer who


appeared on TV next to an anti immigration party leader and turned


It's 1230 here in London. 7.30 in New York and 2.30PM in Cairo where


the popular discontent with the generals who replaced Hosni Mubarak


has escalated. The protests are growing in Cairo and also spreading


to other cities in Egypt. The showdown between the generals and


the pro democracy protesters has already turned violent. And there


are fears the frustration could again lead to clashes with the


security forces. Around 30 people have already died in the past few


days. Humphrey Hawksley has the latest.


During the morning, more and more filled to the square. And the crowd


parted to allow the injured to go to hospital. Higher risk tactics of


hide and seek. All the time, they test the resolve of the police.


Here, police used tear gas against protesters. One of picks it up,


runs towards them and hurls it back. A small strike against the security


forces they demand become accountable to civilian rule. The


numbers of injured and killed are mounting. They fired a shotgun


cartridge, he says, and it hit the person with me directly in the face.


Just a few months ago, the army was hailed as Egypt's saviour and its


head courted both at home and abroad but no more. Egypt is


exactly the same as it was in January. This is not what we fought


for. 12,000 civilians have been tried by courts. People complain.


People used freedom of expression and are detained. A view underlined


by those in the square. TRANSLATION: Our demands are


reforming the constitution, the Cabinet stepping down and having a


civil democratic government. insist that the armed forces gives


us a date on which they will hand over power to an elected official.


As the army and rolls on razor wire, it has asked for emergency dialogue


with all parties. The Moslem Brotherhood has agreed to the talks.


There is unity here on what needs to go but little detail on what


exactly will replace it and how and the dangers of getting it wrong.


That report by Humphrey. We now want to take you live to Tahrir


Square in central Cairo. You can see that the crowds have been


massing, and more and more are streaming in by the our. Very keen


to make sure that the ruling military council is aware of their


growing frustration and anger, and this isn't just happening in Cairo.


Are there are also protests in other major centres in Egypt like


Alexandria, and in the past three days, since these protesters have


reappeared in Tahrir Square, we have seen 26 people who have been


killed in the clashes between the pro-democracy protesters and the


security forces. The BBC's Lyse Doucet is in Tahrir Square. She


witnessed first-hand the street battles taking place there. This is


the main point of tension in Tahrir Square. Protesters are moving down


the street towards the police headquarters. There were running


battles here yesterday. As you can see, its continuing again. You can


feel the tear-gas in the air. This is the focal point of protest now.


And they are moving down this road. A key junction for the this leads


to the headquarters of the police. It has been a target of protests


and rock throwing by these protesters, who accuse police of


the brutality. This is where we have seen battles between police


and protesters. It's happening now. Watch the crowds going. Any minute


now, we expect the tear-gas to be fired. Day after day, hour after


Allott, this is the politics of Egypt now in Tahrir Square. This


confrontation between protesters and the police -- hour after hour.


We are getting reports from Egypt that the head about ruling military


council is expected to make a statement on TV some time on


Tuesday. Let's take a look at some of the other stories making


headlines around the world today. The Tunisian newly elected assembly


is holding it's inaugural session, ten months after the popular


uprising forced the former president Zein al-Abedine Ben Ali


into exile. The assembly is tasked with shaping a constitution and a


democratic future for the country country that sparked the Arab


Spring uprisings.The assembly has a year to write the constitution


before new elections are held Syria's UN envoy has labelled a UN


draft resolution as a declaration of war. The report, which condemns


the Syrian government's conduct against protesters, was created by


Germany, Britain and France and submitted to the UN General


Assembly's human rights committee. And in Libya new pictures have


emerged of Saif al-Islam Gaddafi in the first hours after his capture


on Saturday. It comes as the International Criminal Court's


chief prosecutor has said the son of Libya's former Libya doesn't


necessarily have to be tried at the ICC in The Hague. Luis Moreno-


Ocampo says that Saif Gaddafi could be tried in Libya if the country's


Justice system was up to it. He was captured on Saturday. And is wanted


by the ICC for crimes against humnanity, allegedly committed


during this year's uprsising. And staying in Libya, the annual Rory


Peck Awards pay tribute to the freelance camera operators who risk


their lives to bring us pictures from the world's most dangerous


places. This year's News Award went to a Libyan, Ahmad Bahaddhou. He


was one of the first journalists to join rebels fighting to topple


Muammar Gaddafi in the west of the country. Caroline Hawley has his


story. Fighting for the strategic village


earlier this year. It's the gateway to the Tunisian border and the


The battle is fierce and he is the only journalist to witness this.


What the rebels lack in training, they make up for in determination.


They were dentists, guys who studied in America, in Canada, in


the UK. In Italy. And they were quite determined to get rid of the


Gaddafi regime and you could see it. Not knowing anything about weaponry.


But just going and learning on the field, on the battlefield. I


realise that the people I was with were not professional armies. They


did not realise how close things were flying above our heads,


rockets. But you don't realise that at the moment because what


interests you as the cameraman, you want to get the shots, the


The rebels took the village. As they move into it, shell-shocked


residents of venture out of their homes. The villagers were terrified


because loyalists were using their houses and threatening them, to let


them use their houses, and they were taking everything they had


from them. These people were already poor. The rebels inflicted


several casualties and captured a loyalist. And they celebrate, or


one victory in a long and difficult road to success. Bravely chronicled


by this journalist and other Libyans. Sometimes it Russian


roulette. When your time has come, it's your time. It doesn't have to


stop you doing your job the best way.


The Turkish President Abdullah Gul is on a state visit to Britain, the


first one by a Turkish President in 23 years. Today Abdullah Gul is


being welcomed by Queen Elizabeth II. Mr Gul has said that Syria has


reached a dead end and change is inevitable. In Turkey itself, the


prime minister Recep Tayep Erdogan, has reiterated his call for


President Bashaar Al Asaad to step down. Mustafa Akyol is a political


commentator and author based in Istanbul and he joins me here in


the studio. You have written a book about Islam without extremes.


Looking at the experience of Turkey in particular. Looking at his


official state visit, all the work has been given to the President


Abdullah Gul. It shows how serious Turkey is being taken on the world


stage now. Yes, it is now become important in the Middle East. More


influential. Especially the political parties which emerged


from the Arabs bring say they take Turkey as an example. And I think


Turkey's example with Islam and democracy which I tried to use in


my book, means something for people in the Middle East. We talk about


Turkey in a second on a global stage but looking at Islam and


democracy, critics increasingly say the ruling party there is a bit


authoritarian particularly with two very prominent journalists on trial


there on spurious claims and so on, so democratic freedoms, slightly


shrinking, people would say. It's a controversial issue. During this


party, not of reforms have taken place. Recently, yes, I think their


attitude towards the media is not very positive. They don't like


criticism. At the same time, some of the opposition against the


ruling party is a terrorist group, and terrorist propaganda, the


Kurdish militants. On the global stage, a key NATO player, on the


border with Syria, very important country at the moment. To what


extent to Turkey's foreign policy objectives dovetail with the West?


To a great extent because it's aborts democracy in the Middle East.


-- it supports. Also Turkey realises some neighbours are


dictators and the Turkish government made a decision to award


not supporting dictators but people. I think the Turkish policy changes


show that turkey supports the Arab spring and I think, in that sense,


Turkey is in line with the West. in to talk to us. Graphic accounts


of the brutality of the Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia are being heard


at the opening of the trial of three of its most senior surviving


leaders. In opening statements at one of the world's most high


profile genocide trials, prosecutors are trying to etablish


that senior members of the Khmer rouge regime were accountable for


the crimes that were committed. These crimes were the result of


organised plans, developed by the accused and other CPK leaders. And


systematically implemented through the regional, military and


government bodies they controlled. One of the accused, Nuon Chea, was


shown dramatic footage taken from a 2009 documentary Enemies of the


People, in which he appeared and defended the regime's bloody purges,


Whilst watching the footage he remained emotionless. All the


defendants are accused of being responsible for the deaths of an


estimated 1.7 million people in the 1970s.


Still to come on GMT: Power to the people. Why India's thirst for


energy is causing tension in Tamil First though let's get all the


business news. Aaron Heslehurst is here.


Something that must interested In the UK the rich are doing one


thing, they are getting richer. This is for findings of a year-long


enquiry. It was very critical of the increases for top executives.


It highlights this widening between the top 0.1% of the population and


the rest of us. It is wider. On average over the UK over the past


30 years, executive pay has risen by 4,000 %. They get paid 145 times


more than the average worker. The average worker gets �26,000 a year,


top executives �27 million. If it continues, some so we could be


thrown back into time. If we don't check this huge bonanza in pay,


within five to 10 years we will be back at a Victorian levels of


inequality. If that is what we want as a society, there enough but I


would suggest most people don't want to end up there. I would


imagine most of us wouldn't want to go back to the Victorian inequality.


So more pressure on the Government. Let's look at Spain, their new


leader was only elected on Sunday, and the honeymoon is over? Spain


went back to the money markets to borrow 3 billion euros, short-term


debts. Investors were willing to give them the money, but those


investors demand of the country paid by 0.1% interest. Double what


Spain paid for exactly the same option only a month ago. The new


Prime Minister said yesterday, give me more than 30 minutes to get the


things fixed. I don't think the markets are listening but experts


believe three top priorities are needed. First one is the fact


regional spending is quite a large proportion of the country's deficit.


There have been some noises about setting limits to that. The second


one is tackling and finding out what the size of the hole in the


financial sector is. The financial sector is very exposed to real-


estate, like Ireland suffered a massive bubble which collapsed. And


third, the massive structural reforms that need to be put in


place, especially in the labour market. Spain has 21% unemployment,


at 5 million people out of work. That has to be a key focus.


Your blood is still boiling on executive pay!


Buchan keep up-to-date on the situation in Egypt and all other


major events on the BBC news website.


This is GMT. The headlines: Escalating protests


in Egypt are increasing pressure on the ruling military council to step


down earlier than planned. As Damon from the council's leader is


expected on state TV today. The International Criminal Court


says Saif Al-Islam Gaddafi could stand trial for war crimes inside


Libya. As most of us know, India is


growing rapidly. To keep development on track in needs power


and plenty of it. Over the coming years the Government in India wants


to bring energy production hubs in pockets of South India. In recent


months, plans for a nuclear power plants have prompted protests and


hunger strikes. Protesting against India's


development drive. These people are fighting a production of


electricity in their patch. They know there is a great and growing


need, but they do not want the place they call home to be used to


power India's future. We need to retake -- retain our land, water,


sea and seafood. This is more and Porton than electricity. These


villagers have gathered to protest against a nuclear power plant that


is said to come online not far from here in the coming months. Plans


for nuclear power to come to this area of Tamil Nadu in south India


have been going for some years. But now the people say they are taking


a final stand and they will fight to the end for their future and


livelihoods. Florence Anthony fears the worst. A local fisherman, he


depends on these waters. But he says a nuclear power plant here in


the coastal area of Kudankulam will raise the sea temperature, damaging


fish stock and local trade. TRANSLATION: It this reactor starts


we cannot do our jobs and we will be forced to leave our homes and


land. We cannot do that, we will end up becoming refugees in Another


Place. It is a stark reminder of India's


first for power. The Government insists once operational, the


Kudankulam nuclear power plant will help to solve energy problems.


Local companies suffer from regular electricity source to judge and


power cuts. The chance to keep the lights on for longer is being


welcomed by local industry. TRANSLATION: Across the state, we


have to stop production for four hours a day. If this can be solved


with a nuclear power plant, productivity will improve on so


well Government earnings. For now, children in Kudankulam


enjoy village life. But the landscape around them is changing.


Many coastal areas like this one had been earmarked for major energy


projects. But, the challenge the Government faces is convincing


local people of the benefits of playing a part in India's growth


story. The increase in demands of India's


growing economy. Race and politics often make for an


explosive mix. Two years ago, the London based African-American


writer, Bonnie Greer made a television appearance against the


leader of an anti- immigration party, Nick Griffin of the BNP. She


described it as probably the weirdest and most creepy experience


of her life. Now she has written an opera about her experience on that


episode of the programme, Question Time.


Welcome to Question Time doctor macro Question Time is one of the


best-known political debate shows on the BBC with the lively audience


to put questions to a panel of public figures. Bonnie Greer says


taking part in that changed her life. She received a lot of


criticism for agreeing to sit next to Nick Griffin, who had predicted


his appearance would provide his party with a big platform and


propel them into the big-time. Instead, he seemed to squirm as


audience members called him a disgrace and he was forced to


explain why he had previously sought to play down the Holocaust.


We listened Churchill put everything on the line so that my


ancestors wouldn't guess slaughtered in concentration camps.


But here sits among that says it is a myth, just like a flat world was


a myth. How can you say that? cannot explain why I used to say


those things. Bonnie Greer has said she had to keep her back turned to


him to avoid slapping him. The programme which attracted more than


half of the British viewing public, caused huge protests outside BBC


Television Centre. And no review, and Bonnie Greer is


in the studio. Hello. This opera, you have called it yes, because


that is when you said when it production people called you. Why


did you write an opera? It is not about the programme itself, so we


won't see a bunch of singing Nick Griffin or David Dimbleby. It is


about the young man in the audience he said to Nick Griffin, what about


my ancestors who had to escape the concentration camps? It is about


people and feelings. It is an experimental opera, there isn't a


plot or a long narrative. I wanted to do an opera because what I got


was a change of life. Snippets of feelings, reactions. People walked


up to me and said, I will be looking at you, please be good.


Don't cry when he talks to use. don't want to Labour it, but


Question Time, it is about the voice of the people. Ordinary


people putting their points to political figures. People would say


opera? Covent Garden? It is done by Experian -- et experimental wing.


It gives people like me, one hour on the stage and say, make


something new, do something new with the form. Covent Garden allows


that? The opera talks about feelings. He won't get a whole


narrative, you'll get people who can say things, I don't like what


he just said. Or I agree with what he said. Looking at images from


those programmes, you were sitting next to him, even though you had


your back to him. I have not seen that programme, this is the first


time. You write, you are commentator, you are an anti-racist


campaigner in many ways. People say you dignified the arguments of the


anti- immigration of the BNP by simply sitting next to him? It is


important in a democracy, and we say this in the opera, people have


freedom of speech. If they speak in peace, they must have that freedom.


It gives people like me, and what the opera does, is take a


misinformation, expose it and give it the opportunity of truth of


correction. One of the problems all over the world is there are


prominent people who are using their feelings and putting and


misinformation about the fact this is an island of immigrants.


Everything and everybody is descended from an income up, an


invader or an immigrant. In 20 seconds, what is the music like?


is a range of reggae, gospel and beautiful Mozart. It is a hybrid to


reflect the rich background of people here? It is. Thanks for


coming to talk to us. Before we go, let's remind you of


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