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first polls since Hosni Mubarak was toppled in February. First steps on

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the road to democracy, the Muslim Brotherhood starts off with the

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best organised campaign. This is the beginning of a new era in Egypt,

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democracy in action. Not in theory, Welcome to GMT, I'm George Alagiah

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with the world of news and opinion. Also in the programme: Thousands of

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Syrians show their support for President Assad a day after the

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Arab League approved sweeping sanctions against the country.

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Floodwaters in Australia cut off thousands of homes. The search is

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on for a missing three-year-old. It is lunchtime in London, early

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morning in Washington at 2:30pm in Cairo where voters are taking part

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in the first polls since the fall of Hosni Mubarak in February. The

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election pitches the organisational prowess of the Muslim Brotherhood

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with the newer parties and candidates from the pro-democracy

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movement. Will the election a share in the New era at that the Tahrir

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Square generation hoped for. We will be like in Cairo, but first

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this report. It has turned into a chaotic

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celebration of democracy. At this polling station in Cairo we found

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Egyptians fighting to have their voices heard, determined to have a

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say in how their country is rebuilt. Many more are queuing patiently,

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waiting for hours to get into the polling stations. After years of

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virtual one-party rule almost everyone here is voting for the

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first time. My first parliament and I am so happy to see something like

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that and all people are connecting with us. I want to save my country,

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so I have to vote because I have a voice, I have to use it. Some of

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the queues had been caused by mislaid ballots and polling

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stations opening late. But no one here seems to care too much. The

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last election I covered a year ago under Hosni Mubarak the polling

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stations were deserted. Now they are having to fight them off.

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Follow me around the corner and you can see that you goes on and on

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down the street and around the block and merges with acute in the

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neighbouring police station. People are seizing the opportunity with

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both hands. Once they get inside they are faced with a bewildering

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choice. In this polling station voters have to select from 146

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candidates. Then they have a second ballot paper on which to choose

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from 15 party lists. The whole process will take more than three

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months. The heavy turnout appears to be a snub to the protesters

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still in Tahrir Square. Many of the demonstrators are Boycott and what

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they believe is a flawed process. But many, perhaps most, Egyptians

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are saying they prefer an election however flawed to none at all.

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I'm joined from outside the polling station in Cairo by Khaled

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Ezzelarab, the BBC Arabic correspondent. We have just heard

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in that report that perhaps the voters are snubbing the pro-

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democracy activists because they did not want his election to take

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place and yet people have been voting. Yes, definitely, a lot of

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people have been voting. Some observers say the Internet has

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exceeded expectations. Word is that the turnout will be huge on this

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day. The Tahrir Square demonstrations have not affected

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negatively the turnout for these elections. We are here at a polling

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station a few hundred yards away from Tahrir Square. The security

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situation has been fine, but turnout has been hired. There have

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been some irregularities, but so far the general picture is fine.

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you think the Tahrir Square generation are out of touch with

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the rest of Egypt? Well, the demonstrators in Tahrir Square are

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divided, but many of them have said they will participate in this

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election. Some have boycotted, but others said the protest in Tahrir

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Square is one line of political action, participating in the

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elections is another part of guaranteeing the military council's

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rule will come to an end quite soon. All the indications are that the

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Muslim Brotherhood, the justice and democracy Party, is going into this

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election the best organised. Yes, it seems so. Events in displays

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which is one of the elite suburbs of Cairo and it is not considered

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to be one of that strong points of the Muslim Brotherhood. The only

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organised group at the polling stations have been the Muslim

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Brotherhood and other Islamic groups. They have been telling

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people where their names are in the polling stations. They haven't been

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facilitating the traffic in front of the polling stations to ensure

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that the turnout is high. This is in a part of Cairo where they are

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not that strong, so you can imagine how they are in other parts.

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mention some of the hit is around the country. Give us a round-up of

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as far as you know how it is going around the country. Well, we have

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been receiving reports from very early in the morning that there are

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a lot of polling stations which have failed to open on time. Some

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of them have been hours late. Some judges have not appear at the

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polling stations where they are supposed to supervise the process.

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There have been irregularities, we are getting reports of incidents of

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violence between people going to the elections in front of their

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stations, but nothing as bad as what people feared. We are still at

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midday and things could develop and another way, but so far the general

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picture seems to be fine. Khaled Ezzelarab, thank you very much.

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More on the elections and you can head to the website. You can get

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all the latest information and analysis. Lyse Doucet also speaks

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to Egyptian youth about what elections mean to them.

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Some of the other stories making headlines: Iran's Guardian Council

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has given its final approval to a decision to downgrade ties with

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Britain. Iran's parliament approved the measures on Sunday in

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retaliation for fresh British sanctions. They are accusing the

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Iranian banks of facilitating the nuclear programme.

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The main Pakistani Association that delivers fuel to NATO forces in

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Afghanistan says it has no plans to resume supplies. Many shipments to

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NATO forces in Afghanistan arrive via Pakistan, but they came to a

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halt after 24 Pakistani soldiers were killed at a border post on

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Saturday in what appears to have been an 80 air strike.

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Three people have been killed and more than 20 injured after a

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suspected bomb explosion at a hotel in that Philippines. It started at

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the fire in Zamboanga which was full with guests from a wedding

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party. Police suspect Islamic militants are to blame.

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Averting is under way in the Democratic Republic of Congo for

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president and parliament. It is the central African's country's second

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election since the Civil War ended eight years ago. The run-up to the

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election has been marred by violence and concerned the

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Electoral Commission is not ready to hold the event.

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In a country that is nearly the size of Western Europe this is an

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election on a huge scale. Even the ballot papers are like small

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newspapers. There are 11 presidential candidates and more

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than 18,000 people running for seats in the National Assembly. It

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is thought it could take the average voter seven minutes to vote.

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President Joseph Kabila, who is seeking another term, cast his vote

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in Kinshasa. Analysts say his track record over the last five years has

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been relatively poor, but he has benefited from greater resources

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than any of his opponents, including the main challenger. In

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the past few days there has been a frantic scramble to get all the

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voting materials distributed around the country. This was the scene in

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an Eastern city soon after the polling stations opened. All is

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well, said this man, even though we started with a bit of a delay a

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process is transparent. But hundreds of observers, including

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many from abroad, are watching with anxiety. There have been outbreaks

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of violence. The Democratic Republic of Congo has so often

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proved to be a country that is not governable. This will be an

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important test of her stable it really is.

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In Australia thousands of people have been stranded by floodwaters

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in the northern part of New South Wales. Many of them could be

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isolated for up to a week and the Government has been flying

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emergency supplies to the area. The flooding has claimed the lives of a

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three-year-old boy as Duncan Kennedy in Sydney reports.

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Australia is entering its summer season, but look at this. Vast

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areas of north-west New South Wales under water. The flooding has been

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building over the past few days and thousands of acres of land have

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been deluged. Some of the major routes through the region have been

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cut off and whilst bigger vehicles have made it through, others reveal

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the depth of the rising waters. Towns and settlements like these

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have faced the worst flooding. But it is Wee Waa when nearly 2000

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residents have been stranded. Only Ariel drops are keeping it

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connected to the outside world. do not expect further evacuations,

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however those floodwaters can remain in the area for up to 10

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days and there is more rain predicted in the middle of this

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week. Rescue teams have been searching for a three-year-old boy

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who was swept away by the powerful waters. Other people are trying to

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get out themselves. Emergency services have received 900 calls

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for help. As everybody in this community what is the weather and

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the water. The French foreign minister Alain

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Juppe has said time is running out for the Syrian President after the

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Arab League agreed sanctions against Damascus. In an

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unprecedented move unsung day including an asset freeze and an

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investment embargo work approved over Syria's crackdown on pro-

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democracy protests. Jim Muir is watching the events in Syria from

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neighbouring Lebanon. We are expecting to hear the foreign

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minister any minute now, are we? The line broke up. That was my

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fault. We are expecting to hear the foreign ministers speaking any

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minute now. That is right. We are waiting for that. It was supposed

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to have happen some time ago, but in the meantime the Syrian

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television screens are four of the thousands and thousands of people

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who are out in the squares in Damascus and other cities around

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Syria. It is hardly spontaneous, but it is a very big state-

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supported demonstration denouncing the Arab League moves. The they

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want to show this is a very unpopular thing as far as many

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Syrians are concerned, certainly as far as the regime's supporters are

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concerned. The people are being quoted as saying it is all the

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Syrian people of all classes throughout the country who are

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targeted by these moves. Of course, the Arab League is trying to be at

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pains not to hurt ordinary people, but to isolate and pressurise the

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regime. We are looking at some of these protests, stage managed or

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not, tell me how unprecedented visit for an organisation like the

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Arab League to move in this way against a country like Syria?

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completely unprecedented and has not happened before. The Arab

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League has been synonymous with lethargy and apathy and not doing

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anything, but now it seems under its new Secretary General to have

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decided it wants to be in the forefront of change in the Arab

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world, not lagging behind or even a obstructing it as it was in the

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past. They have rather startlingly taken this move against a fellow

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member of the Arab League, isolated it and pressurising its and it has

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not been done before. From the Syrian perspective what they are

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saying is the Arab League has simply fallen into the hands of the

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West and has become an instrument for carrying out a Western-backed

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conspiracy and slinking back with the situation on the ground which

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they say is also the work of outside forces, manipulating local

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Still to come... A wake-up call as delegates gathered for the UN

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Climate Conference. The stakes are high, but will they manage to kick

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that talks on a global deal back Now let's get the business news.

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Lots of reports on the situation and the economic crisis in Europe.

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The latest one is from the OECD. The organisation of co-operation

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and Development, they released their biannual global economic

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outlook. Surprise, surprise, it makes for pretty gloomy reading. It

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is a very stark warning for governments and policy makers

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around the world to be prepared for the worst. The eurozone crisis...

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That's a quote from the board. Absolutely. The eurozone crisis is

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at the centre of their worries. They say but have a very big and

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negative impact. It will hit the US economy harder than expected. It

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will even hit China. Let's listen to the chief economist from the

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OECD. Confidence is weakening. Confidence both in households and

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in companies. Business and consumer confidence is dropping. And why is

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that happening? We think that most of the cause of that confidence

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drop, of which turns into low activity, is itself the result of

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what is seen as to be an inadequate policy response. Inadequate policy

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response. He's not only talking about European politicians, he also

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mentions US politicians. I should also throw-in that the OECD is

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predicting the British economy will slip back into recession in the

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next coming few months. Maybe George Osborne got a sneak preview

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because he is due to announce some big spending on infrastructure.

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Very ambitious plan. �30 billion to push into the economy. It's really

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about big infrastructure projects to get people back to work and to

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get growth in the economy. Rail and road schemes, about 40 projects

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which have been earmarked. The question is, how do we pay for it?

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A lot of money coming from big British pension funds, Chinese

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investments, 5 billion coming from areas where the government have

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already cut budgets. Given a serious state of our finances, can

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we really afford it? We are finding the resources in difficult times to

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build the roads and railways. Here, we are talking about an extension

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of the tube line which could create 25,000 jobs on this side. We are

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doing the scenes -- these things because Britain has got to get away

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from the quick fix of debt solutions that got us into this

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mess. We got to lay the foundations for a stronger economic future.

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We've got to make sure that British savings and things like pension

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funds are deployed here and the British taxpayer's money is well

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used. The markets, a bumper of a day at the moment. They are all

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high off the back of the swimmers at the weekend that the IMF was in

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talks with Italy to bail it out. The IMF deny it but the markets are

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still hoping. Do we know what's happening here? The FTSE is up as

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This is GMT. On main stories this hour. Egyptians of voting at

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polling stations and their first elections since the fall of Hosni

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Mubarak in February. It follows a week of mass protest against

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military rule in the country. Syria is shunned by its allies. Flights

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from Arab capitals to Damascus are halted under sweeping sanctions.

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The annual UN Conference on Climate Change has opened in the South

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African city of Durban. Sharp differences between governments

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expected to frustrate efforts to agree a new global treaty. Europe

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and poorer countries are already affected by the impact of climate

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change are pressing for a new deal to reduce emissions as soon as

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possible, other rich countries, including Japan and Russia, they

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There is plenty of passion for tackling climate change amongst

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those directly threatened by it. Activists in Durban say only swift

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action now can prevent the Earth's temperature is rising to dangerous

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levels. They are trying to persuade delegates to promise more money to

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help the poorest nations Cup. Ladies and gentlemen, this

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conference needs to reassure the Honourable, all those who have

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already suffered and all those who will continue to suffer from

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climate change, that tangible action is being taken for a safer

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future. Both in adaptation and in mitigation. At the core of the

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summit is a new climate agreement that the UN wants to have finalised

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by 2015. But India and Brazil are joining rich nations, such as the

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US and Japan, in delaying a legally binding deal. Poorer countries want

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a binding deal as soon as possible. That is because they are affected

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most by the more extreme weather provoked by climate change. They

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say voluntary agreement just aren't enough to get the necessary de cuts

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and carbon dioxide emissions. Adding urgency to the need for

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action, a new UN report shows that a quarter of the world's farmland

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is now highly degraded. South Africa's President, Jacob Zuma,

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arrived with the message that a deal was vital and should be

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possible with sound leadership. most people in the developing world

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and Africa, climate change is a matter of life and death. Europe is

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pressing for firm action, but there are major doubts over whether other

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rich nations, with their economies struggling, can summon up and a

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political and financial world. -- financial world. Joining the is

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Richard Black. Emily picked up on this, India and Brazil dragging

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their feet. They are basically behaving in the way, for the same

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reasons they used to criticise the big countries, America, Japan and

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so on. There is this concern that they share with those countries

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like the US and Japan that constraining carbon emissions will

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Compact their economic growth. They are going up against a number of

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blocks, like the EU for example, which see an economic future in

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developing green and clean. And against some of the small island

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states who can't really afford to ask that question. They simply see

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in 20 to 30 years' time the waters lapping over their shores.

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Maldives. Absolutely. We should be hearing from some of those later in

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the conference. It will be interesting to see whether they

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openly criticise countries such as India and Brazil. And some of the

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small island states said if they are going to name and shame the

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likes of India and Brazil, who was supposed to be in many ways

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countries that lead the developing world. That's right. This whole

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mass of developing world Block, the G77 China, it now has 131 countries

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in it. They tend to behave as a monolith of for all sorts of

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reasons. They do share common interests, but it will be

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interesting to see whether world leaders from the small island

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states do name and shame. That is what is being set behind the scenes

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but we will wait to see if it materialises. One of the enduring

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means of this is some of the rich countries of the West putting

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pressure on the smaller countries. But some of that pressure is coming

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from the big, developing world players as well. It is his right,

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Brazil and India dragging their feet, America, Japan and Russia and

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so on, more or less where they've always been, a reluctant partners,

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this thing is dead in the water, isn't it? It's difficult to see how

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it can develop anything that goes anywhere near meeting the goals set

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out by scientists, who say that in order to have a reasonable chance

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of keeping the global temperature rise below two Celsius, you need to

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be peaking emissions and having them decline around about 2020,

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certainly no later. You can do it later than that but it becomes much

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more expensive. If you don't have even talks on a new global deal

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beginning until 2015 or later, it's difficult to see and you can meet

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that target of beginning to curb emissions by 2020. Rapidly growing

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economies mean many Asian countries have encouraged their young workers

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to abandon the field and prop to the city's in search of their

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fortunes. In Japan, the bloom in the migration took place decades

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ago. But for the past 20 years the economy has been in stagnation. As

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Roland Buerk reports, some younger people are now leaving the cities

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behind to return to the countryside. Bright Lights, Big City. For

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decades Tokyo has been a draw. Bringing in people from the

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countryside. Now other Asian nations are following suit, a race

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to urbanisation. But for some young Japanese the city is losing its

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appeal. Like millions of others, this woman can't find a permanent

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job. The salary man lifestyle enjoyed by earlier generations has

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passed her by. TRANSLATION: I never know if I'm

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going to lose my job. Financially my anxiety levels are very height.

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I wouldn't know what to do. That's why some young Japanese are looking

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for an alternative. This is no ordinary bus trip. These are not

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tourists. Instead, they are city dwelling people who've come to the

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countryside for the day to see what life would be like as farmers. They

:24:48.:24:58.
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are all considering a radical change of career. This woman has

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joined the tour. It's organised by local officials. The average

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Japanese farmer is now more than 65, so they are looking for new

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recruits. TRANSLATION: There are more people

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that want to be farmers now. The numbers are increasing. More people

:25:17.:25:27.
:25:27.:25:28.

from the city want a rural life. Here, we want to help them. At 86

:25:28.:25:33.

years old, this man needs help to look after his cucumbers. And now

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he has an apprentice. A young man who gave up his office job in

:25:39.:25:47.

Yokohama. TRANSLATION: I was really fed up

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with my life in the city. I was too busy working every day. I wanted to

:25:51.:25:58.

change, so I had a slower life. I wanted to become a farmer. His farm

:25:58.:26:05.

is on the tour. This woman has decided it's what she wants to do,

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too. Joining other young Japanese who are rediscovering the way of

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life their grandparents left behind. We are coming to the end of GMT.

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Before we go, a reminder of our main story. Egyptians are voting in

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the first parliamentary elections since the toppling of President

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Mubarak in February. Long queues formed at polling stations around

:26:32.:26:36.

the country. That despite calls from some of the pro-democracy

:26:36.:26:41.

activists that these elections should be boycotted which, as our

:26:41.:26:44.

correspondent pointed out when we spoke to him, raises a question

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about the extent to which the pro- democracy activists that we've

:26:48.:26:51.

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