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In the next half-hour, as Cumbria's biggest decision in decades looms,

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we ask, can the county afford to say no to the nuclear waste

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bonanza? If it was not for the nuclear industry in this part of

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the world, we probably would not exist.

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D arts world in Newcastle faces the biggest financial chill, but should

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we be subsidising a trip to the theatre? I think we will start to

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see a real waste land. The tumbleweed will blow up the

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cultural streets. And it has been a wipe-out - we

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meet the man predicting the weather's worst. I always try and

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deliver a bad forecast with a smile on my face.

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* is from the heart of the north- east and Cumbria. This is Inside

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Out. Cumbria could be about to press its

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nuclear button. The county is on the brink of deciding whether it

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wants to be the place Britain berries high-level waste. Say yes

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could attract huge sums of money for community projects, but should

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that influence a decision that the county will have to live with for

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hundreds of thousands of years? It is the stuff no one else wants

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bash out toxic high-level nuclear waste that can remain radioactive

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for a generation upon generation. This is the stuff that fuels the

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power stations that provide the energy we all need. But it is

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radioactive and has no permanent home. At the moment, it is filling

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up this overground store. He is dead, the Government wants the

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waste buried deep underground, and Cumbria is the only county

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considering building the facility, the size of a small city. This

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massive decision comes down to just 24 people on three councils,

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falafel, Copeland and the county council. So who are they? What do

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we know about them? How impartial are they, and what are the

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pressures on them at this crucial time?

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You don't have to look far to see how dominant the industry is to the

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local economy. The West Lakes Academy in Egremont is sponsored by

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Sellafield. We asked the maths teachers here to work out the

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percentage of year 7 pupils who have a parent who works in the

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nuclear sector. OK, year seven - on your marks, get set, go! It is a

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whopping 41% of this year group. And in a few years, some of those

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pupils could well be here, a training centre preparing a new

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crop of workers for Sellafield. They are excited about the

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underground store. You feel lucky to be in this position. A lot of

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people want to be where I am. could not name one of my friends

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who does not know somebody who works at Sellafield. In a small

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community like this, it is what we need. It is great to have all the

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young people coming through her. There are not many other places to

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work around here. We need it. know we have a job for life as long

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as we do well. It gives people my age a chance to learn skills.

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Professor John Fyfe says a waste store would help attract more

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business to the county. There are 1300 to 1000 �500 billion worth of

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work globally. When I have travelled the world, if you ask

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people, whereas the nuclear excellence in Britain? They say

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Sellafield, West Cumbria. So we should be able to help create new

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wealth creation opportunities, new jobs for people in West Cumbria.

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The 24 councillors will be in no doubt just how big a player of the

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nuclear industry is here. It is the lifeblood of this remote area. It

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is a tight-knit community, and the nuclear industry is like a web that

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has connections across the whole area. It provides employment for

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over 26,000 workers in the north- west. The Sellafield operation had

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pays out �365 million in wages, and contributes over �2 billion to the

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county's economy. It is not just the wages from Sellafield that puts

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money in the pockets of thousands of Cumbrians. The county already

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has a nuclear waste store. This is on the outskirts of Drigg, and it

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is where the low-level waste is brought. For having this in their

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back garden, Cumbria is given �1.5 million a year by the Government.

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The Copeland Community Fund provides a link between the nuclear

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industry and charities to benefit from grants, like the Greenbank

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Community Association in Whitehaven. They have been doing arts and

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crafts. There is a football table, a pool table, general toys. 40% of

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its funding comes from nuclear sources. Her without funding from

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the nuclear industry, there would not be a centre. There would be no

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play area. My grandad worked here for 48 years. He worked underground.

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The Hague bit in Whitehaven more, once the main employer in this area,

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is also benefiting from the fund. It is helping with the �2.4 million

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redevelopment. It will be a wonderful resource for the area, a

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place where schools can visit and people can look up their family

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history. You will be able to have a cup of tea and a bum. So you have

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no qualms about taking money from the nuclear side? Absolutely not.

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If it was not for the nuclear industry in this part of the world,

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we would not exist. And up the road, another beneficiary, this time the

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Rosehill Theatre in Moresby, undergoing a fourth �0.5 million

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refurbishment. Nearly half the cash is coming from nuclear money.

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a feature of the area and implement in the area. The money from those

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sources does a great deal of good to the area and allows us to do

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things we would not be in a position to do otherwise. And the

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sums of money we are receiving is very high. And that cash is just

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from the Government. An extra �4.5 million comes from the three firms

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that won the Sellafield site. Have the money is spent in the area,

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like �90,000 for the Workington and St Bees lifeboat. It is not to

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curry favour, it is recognising that there are impacts from the

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nuclear industry on any committee. In our case, it is around

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decommissioning. The money is to mitigate against those impacts.

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is this just a local business doing the right thing, supporting their

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community? Or is the relationship or a little too close? Critics say

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the financial benefits that could be on offer Forest storm mean it is

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already a done deal. The was a meeting consisting of members of

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the Council and the industry. We have got the minutes here. They

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assume that West Cumbria would be a willing committee to host the dump.

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And the fact that they can make that assumption is extraordinary. I

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think the whole thing is a bit too cosy. But the local MP, a former

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Sellafield press officer, is confident that councillors will

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take the decision on safety and environment as well as economic

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benefits. It has never been a done deal. To imply or suggest it is a

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done deal implies that people want this, whatever the environmental

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cost. That is fantasy. The process we have now has taken a decade to

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bring into being. It is a fair and transparent and accountable process.

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And I think those concerns are unfounded on any logical basis of

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fact. A sow the links in our web are far reaching. There is a big

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economic pressure on our 24 decision-makers, and some of them

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have even closer links to the industry. County councillors Tim

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Knowles and Tony marquee and leader of Copeland council Elaine Woodburn

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of all board members of the Copeland Community fund that hands

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out �1.5 million a year. Tim Knowles worked at Sellafield. He

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was head of corporate affairs. Tony Markley was at the meeting in 2008

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which claimed West Cumbria was willing. So, can they truly be

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independent when it comes to forming a view? I wanted to ask

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them some questions, but Tim Knowles and Tony Markley refused my

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requests in the run-up to the big decision later this week. In a

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statement, the county council And Elaine Woodburn sees no

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conflict of interest. The Copeland Community fund is totally different

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from the process. I have never worked within the nuclear industry.

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I represent this community. I was born and bred here. I have family

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here now and in the future, and if anybody thinks I would take a

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decision that would do anything to harm that, I find that insulting.

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Councillors have already asked for more time to consider their

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decision. They have had an extra three months to mullet over. The

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stakes could not be higher. The Government has no plan B for the

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nuclear store. The counsellors can choose to stop the plans in their

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tracks right now, or go to the next stage. It is crucial. In two days'

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time, we will hear the answer. The big decision is due on

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Wednesday. You can tune in to BBC Radio Cumbria to hear the outcome

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as soon as it is announced. Another important decision is being

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made, this time in Newcastle, where the city council plans to scrap

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under the theatres and arts venues. So the question is, should

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taxpayers subsidise night out? The council says it needs the cash for

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more vital services, but is there more at stake than the price of the

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front row seat? It is truly a winter of discontent.

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A planned freezing council subsidy Bretons a bleak future for many

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arts venues across Newcastle. Late last year, the authority he

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announced that it was cutting all funding to arts organisations

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across the city. It said it had no choice because of the government

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cutbacks, but it has unleashed a storm of protest from those who

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feel it will destroy the cultural life in the City and lead to an

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Each week, 6000 tubs of ice-cream a producer. This is the first winter

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we have been open. And then, can send here. We have managed to keep

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open this winter but the contract - - because of the contract with the

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Theatre Royal. I would be devastated. For every �1 that is

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invested, in the funding, we put �5 back into the economy. That's one

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of the key arguments for not cutting funding. If the funding is

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cut, the knock-on impact could be disastrous. The council is looking

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to cut a total of �1.2 million worth of subsidies to the city's

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cultural venues. That is everything. 100%. But there is more. The

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museums are you losing 50%. And 10 libraries could close. It has made

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some Geordie A-listers miserable. Lee Hall, the Newcastle born writer

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of Billy Elliott, says the public are being ripped off. A things will

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start to close. We will see a wasteland starting. The tumble

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weeds blowing up the streets. Our theatre companies produce work on

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an international scale. Last year I was on Broadway. If you get the

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strong, you screw up lies for everybody and this is a central

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part of the economic prosperity. Never mind control prosperity.

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hall thinks these cuts but the cultural life of Newcastle in real

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danger. But there is another way of looking at these figures. The cuts

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are a serious but they represent no more than 15% of the turnover at

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the city's venues. None of them say they have to close.. And don't

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forget, most also receive public money from the Arts Council, which

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is spending �12 million a year in Newcastle alone. And it has led

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some to ask, if this cinema operates without a grant, why not

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this place? And if this Newcastle theatre can survive without council

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subsidy, then why not here, which attracts more than 300,000 people

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each year? They do need to be viable businesses. They shouldn't

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just look to taxpayers to bail them out. Why does this place deserve

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funding? It enables an organisation like ourselves to have a programme

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that was popular and allows us to ensure it is of real quality. To

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make sure ticket prices are accessible. He a castle isn't the

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only place where venues have been learning to cope without council

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money.. Somerset has already introduced 100 cuts for its venues.

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It had a huge impact on places like this. It was a big shock. I cried

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the next day. How are we going to get through this? The first thing

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we lost was the staff. We have had to be much more businesslike in the

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way we run. And the programming has changed. We try not to change it

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drastically but we have not been able to do the more challenging

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work. We have safer, classic shows. So the audiences will grow and the

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end, also. So we can be viable and not reliant on grants and handouts.

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Somerset and Newcastle are the exceptions. Other councils, for the

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time being, at least, are continuing to fund the arts as a

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way of supporting the economy. In my home town, the council puts just

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under �1 million every year into this iconic building. Despite the

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fact that they need to make cutbacks. We attract about 40,000

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each year. To Middlesbrough. And, of course, this visitors spent

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Monday and they often stay overnight, in hotels and supporting

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the economy. That is why the council invested. As well as

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wanting to change the image of the town. Why can't you stand on your

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own fate? Museums and galleries rarely do. We can look at ways to

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earn income. The bottom line is, if you want an institution of this

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picture, there is public money to pay. But back in Newcastle, the

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council leader says there is no alternative, faced, as he is, with

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a �100 million cut to services overall. It has embroiled him in a

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row about dodgy figures and political posturing. How do you

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feel about coming into a place like this knowing you are the man in

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control and that will not have as much money? I have a job as a

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leader of the council. Banishing the council and leading the city

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through the most difficult time in its history. I share the anger that

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a lot of people have expressed. The people that have been raising

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concerns, they have the wrong target. The only thing I can think

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of, if it isn't sheer physical incompetence, is they are trying to

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create a political platform in which to bash the Coalition and it

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has backfired because he cannot play politics with the city's

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culture. A are you tried to get political attention? We are

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illustrating the effects of the austerity. We are showing what they

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mean over the next three years in Newcastle. Other areas are not

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planning as much as us and we are illustrating what will happen and

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other councils will be in this position, I have no doubt.

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councils have got tough choices but as often happens, when in the

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throes of a crisis, that is when the innovative thinking comes out

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and some of the things you would not have thought of before felt

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unthinkable, when the other option is just nuclear, this brings out

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those kinds of options and that kind of thinking. That thinking has

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led to a glimmer of hope. Four days ago the council and art dealers met

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to agree to look for a Plan B. But council budgets for everything from

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care homes to holes in the road on under real pressure. The arts are

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not alone. And until that is sorted, it means the funding for services

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such as those that help should the country of the set -- the city,

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Newcastle is unlikely to be the last sacrificing its arts. Most

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councils are stuck between a big rock and it very hard place. Every

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time it snows, the headlines are the same. Nightmare journeys to

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work, schools closed and even the odd power cut. For decades the

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stories don't seem to have changed. But maybe help is at hand, thanks

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to one man. Waking up to snow, we have had three inches on low

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ground... We can see problems on the road start macro the

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temperature, minus two degrees and Coulter on the hills. -- coulter.

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- colder. The Great British winter. And the great, long-suffering

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British public living with it. For some of us, it's no big deal.

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little bit of snow and everybody goes to pieces. Why can't we Cup?

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For others it can be rather more serious. I am annoyed and angry for

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the sake of some great, I cannot get about. Totally helpless. Some

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of us even make a living from it. I'm trying to deliver the bad

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forecast with a smile, like some For three of the last four winters,

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we've had to relearn what previous generations knew all too well.

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it is Siberia... I have stepped on to the cab of the story and there

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is no way of telling how did the snow is Bennett. It has to be at

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least 15 feet. Of course, they would remind you that they had it

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much harder. The whole lot froze solid and it took 80 men over one

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week to get them running. In 1947 and '63, we endured winters far

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worse than anything since. Today, with all our modern comforts,

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perhaps it does come as a bit more of a shock. As soon as there is

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some bad weather and rain, we all go to pot and I do not know why.

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But the things we complain about? Well, maybe they haven't changed

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that much. Getting around when there is no path. Bus services.

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Cancelled. I was in Finland and it was business as usual. I worry

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about older people were than anything else. I am surprised, to

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be honest. That they have as much done as they have before the

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cutbacks. So what could or should we be doing to make winter less

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disruptive? Meet Kevin. You won't have heard of him but he has a big

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say in how we tackle 21st century snow. With some very 21st century

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technology. We will see some snow melting... Kevin has just been

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appointed the Met Office's man on the ground for the North East. His

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job is to give bespoke weather forecasts to people like the

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emergency services and local authorities. And they can be very

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detailed indeed. This is right now, as it happens and if they want to

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see some particular show without will affect them in five minutes,

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they get that degree of notice. Council gritting and snow clearing

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costs tens of thousands a night. Kevin will advise them where and

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when to operate. We provide a dedicated service to the tames,

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telling them not just how much know there will be a but in detail what

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the surface temperature will be. There are sensors buried in the

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roads and based on that, we produce forecasts that predict the

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temperature of the concrete, which is crucial. The information is

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useful, twice a day, through from Kevin, we get and use that

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information in planning the day and for the days ahead. In the past we

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would have been gritting in a very ad hoc way but we just now go where

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we need to go. I am aware there geek! I love the snow and

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interesting weather. Being part of a team that helps to make a

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difference. A timely gritter might save your journey but it doesn't

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help when your train breaks down or points and power lines ice up. And

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that seems to happen every winter. Why? There have been delays and we

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apologise to passengers but at the same time, this isn't a problem

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relating to just the railway in Britain. We are working to get the

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best out of the infrastructure we have and in the meantime we appeal

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to passengers for patients and many have been very understanding and

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grateful that when other forms of transport have been unable to keep

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going, we have. For parents, another winter frustration. How

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does a bit of snow close the schools so easily? It didn't happen

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in our day. When I was younger he went to school knee-deep in snow.

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They did not close for anything. Now it is all health and safety and

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I don't know what that is. Would they rather have their children at

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home or in hospital? Because that is the way it will go, children

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will fall and break their legs and they're in Hospital and whose fault

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would it be? The teachers, yet again. Therefore, we err on the

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side of caution and make sure it is safe for children to be in school.

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Council workers clearing and gritting a footpath in Newcastle. A

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less common sight these days. But then, this is close to a hospital.

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Jimmy came to grief in a nearby park. I went for 100 yards and my

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legs completely went from below me. And there was no great, no lights.

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It was really bad. Public pathways, they should always be done. I am

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fairly fit. And I went down. I feel like I'm a burden. So is it time we

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found some of that old community spirit again? Ideally, if people

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could clear the areas in front of their own houses and flats, that

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would be a massive improvement. Not everybody can do that, so thinking

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about neighbours, I suppose, is the next step. Enlightened self-

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interest, really. Yes, it is very difficult to walk on the street.

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Would you be prepared to do that? It depends how cold it is! It is

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their pavement. If I want to park my car, they will tell me know.

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They think it is a pavement so they have to look after it. And as luck

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would have it, not a snowball's throw away. If you do it every

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single day, it doesn't get too bad. We started at the weekend and we

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have done it every single day. Good exercise as well. I understand that

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money is in short supply, so they cannot pay for everything. People

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do understand. To remain safe, we should do our own digging. If bad

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winters are making a comeback, we face a choice. In hard financial

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times, how much are we prepared to pay to combat the effects and how

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far are we ready to get stuck in ourselves? One thing seems clear.

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No matter how clever we think we are, Mother Nature tends to have

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the final say. Since 1963 and 1970 his time, weather forecasting has

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changed. -- 1979. But there is always that margin of error, for

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example, the wind direction over the Atlantic, that will influence

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how the weather behaves so the forecast is never 100% right, and

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it never will be. It's not as if we have not seen this before and we

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will be seeing it all again. Winter... That's it for tonight.

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