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On-the-spot fines, for trivial offences. Have some councils gone | :00:05. | :00:11. | |
too far in their drive to raise cash? I got a tap on my shoulder. | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
There were two men and they started talking to me about a cigarette | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
Butt. I panicked and thought I started a fire. It didn't occur to | :00:19. | :00:28. | |
me dropping it was the crime. big freeze of 1963 By the end of | :00:28. | :00:33. | |
January, the frozen waters stretched two-and-a-half miles out | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
to sea. Margate pier and Herne Bay were actually surrounded by pancake | :00:37. | :00:46. | |
ice. And the story of Sherman's shirts. Invented in Brighton. | :00:47. | :00:53. | |
bare wear didn't sell but the button down shirt went like crazy. | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
I am Natalie Graham with untold stories closer to home. From all | :00:57. | :01:07. | |
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round the south-east, this is Inside Out. Hello, I am in Herne | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
Bay on a blustery winter's day. I am back here later, but first up, | :01:25. | :01:28. | |
Wendy Hurrell asks whether some councils are being too aggressive | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
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in the way their officers hand out fines. All councils have litter | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
patrols, it is a constant battle for locals, businesses and the | :01:43. | :01:49. | |
council's wardens to keep the streets litter free. We got back at | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
Christmas, this is what we came back to. Rubbish everywhere. Even | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
on the other side of the building. It's a brand-new nursery and coffee | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
shop. We have children in the building, all the time. The rubbish | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
gets added to every day. We did pay to have it all removed but it is | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
back again. Once the perpetrators have been traced, first they will | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
get a warning, then if they do it again, they will be looking at a | :02:12. | :02:18. | |
fine. We talk to people and we educate them and we want compliance. | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
We are not out to fine people to increase the coffer, we want people | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
to comply. Keep it as clean as we would wish. In this borough, | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
enforcement is a mixture of investigations and education. It is | :02:31. | :02:38. | |
not a cash cow nor the council. Elsewhere, it is a different story. | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
Here in Bromley, they are concentrating on a different kind | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
of rubbish enforszment. Daily patrols are off pedestrians | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
dropping cigarette Butts. Outside Bromley south station, smokers | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
gather before catching train, unaware that by the flower stall, | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
wardens are waiting to pounce. A traveller discards his used | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
cigarette, watches by warned ch inside he is handed an �80 fine | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
which he must pay within enday, or he could be -- ten diers he could | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
be summoned to court and given a criminal record. Shortly after a | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
student is stopped at the main shopping centre for dropping a roll | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
up. I got a top on the shoulder, and I turned round and two men were | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
there and they just started talking to me and I panic and thought I | :03:27. | :03:32. | |
started a fire. It didn't occur to me that dropping the cigarette was | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
the crime. I thought it must be something I had done by accident | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
and I panicked. At the end of August last year, Bromley council | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
switched from using their own wardens and employed a private | :03:43. | :03:50. | |
company for their litter patrols. In their first month they issued | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
618 fines, bringing in a potential revenue of almost �50,000. Compare | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
that to the previous month, when Bromley's staff issued just four | :04:00. | :04:07. | |
tickets. They told news a statement: We understand the | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
concerns raised with regard to the alleged incentivising forces. The | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
only people affected by our presence are those individuals that | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
decide to dispose of waste incorrectly and leave their litter | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
and dog waste on the streets. Freedom of Information requests | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
have revealed fines have been issued for the strangest things. | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
Here is Tony Blackburn with our top of the drops. It is final for top | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
of the drops. Number five. The warden's slapped an �80 penalty for | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
dropping a pen. Four, they protected the environment by | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
charging a member of the public with dropping an ice-cream. A main | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
nous offence. Discarding peanut shells. At two, a bank card. Number | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
one in our top of the drop, charging a member of the public | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
with dropping a piece of cotton thread. Unbelievable! But by far | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
the largest number of fines, 95% are for dropping cigarette Butts. | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
put my cigarette out in the gutter. They said that is illegal. We have | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
to issue you with a fine. They started reading my rights, saying | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
you have the right to remain silent. I thought it was a prang. They gave | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
me a ticket and I paid that within ten days. Do you feel like they | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
have made money out of this? There is no signs up round here, I feel | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
hard done by it. With councils across London strapped for cash, | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
critics say on-the-spot fines are becoming a new way of making up the | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
deficit. They are looking at our residents as a cash cow, they have | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
raised over I think about �17,000 alone in litter fine, in a year. | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
They keep telling us they are on the side of our residents, but this | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
proves the only thing that is they seem to be interested in is | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
screwing as much month out of the residents as possible. The council | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
maintain they are doing a public service by handing out fines for | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
littering. We don't make any money. It costs us more to enforce the | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
fines. We are trying to make sure people don't litter. If they don't | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
we don't have to spend �7.million to pick up the tonnes of waste we | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
get from people dropping stuff on the ground. As issuing fines for | :06:20. | :06:26. | |
small scale littering is a money spinner, the concern is an | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
enticement to private companies to hand them out in greater number and | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
generate vast apts of profit. think whenever you have wardens who | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
have a personal interest, directly or indirectly to issue as many | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
fines as pob, you, they don't ib issue fines for the right thing, | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
they issue fine Forbes minor offences so you get a punishment | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
not in the public interest. Jane, who we can't identify because of | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
the nature of her work, believes the wardens who approaches her were | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
not following proper law enforcement procedure. He just came | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
up to me, did not tell me who he was, what company he works for, or | :07:05. | :07:11. | |
whom he represent, I was left in shock, thinking what? He literally | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
was standing right next to me, as if to block my movements. Jane | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
insists that the warden could and should have issued her with a | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
warning, if they had been following Bromley council's own guidelines P | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
The verbal warning is there. Why was I not made a beneficiary of | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
that particular warning? I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
this is a cash, money making enforcement scheme. Bromley council | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
responded to criticism of their new policy. We have taken a decision | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
with this contract, that it will be a policy that penalises people for | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
littering because it adds to the cost other ratepayers have to bear | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
on their council tax to keep the streets clean. You can challenge a | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
litter fine but you have to go to a magistrates the court do so. Most | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
people though are reluctant to do that. They gave me a piece of paper | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
with the stuff on it, �80 and they were if you take it to court it | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
could be �2,000 my. Immediate thing was I don't have �806789 I don't | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
want to o have to go to court Dropping litter is a criminal | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
offence, and one that the magistrates association feels | :08:18. | :08:24. | |
should be dealt with in court. private company there's is no kind | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
of transparency, they don't report to anybody. The media doesn't see | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
it. The general public can't see it. There is no opportunity to question | :08:31. | :08:38. | |
it or very limited appeal provisions. In my view the | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
Magistrates' Court is much more transparent and consistent and it | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
delivers accident justice over and above what the private company can | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
deliver in the future. Back in Croydon, their environment officers | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
have traced the owner of the dump material and are in the process of | :08:55. | :09:05. | |
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contacting them, having cleared the waste away. Coming up on Inside Out. | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
I think I was ten. It was probably my tenth birthday. I collected all | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
the money from aunts andles and I went to Selfridges, first time I | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
went to buy something on my own. What I was doing was going for a | :09:21. | :09:31. | |
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button down Ben Sherman because no Today the snow is back. These were | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
some of the scenes this morning as once again much of the south-east | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
turned into a Winter Wonderland. But if you think this was bad, you | :09:49. | :09:59. | |
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should have been here in 1963. It was the worst winter of the 20th | :10:04. | :10:10. | |
century. And the coldest for more than 200 years P And it seemed to | :10:10. | :10:18. | |
go on forever. 1962, 63 was the daddy of them all. Oh it was | :10:18. | :10:27. | |
appalling. It was snow on top of snow on snow. In fact the first | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
snow fell at Christmas, 1962, then more came, the following January. | :10:34. | :10:40. | |
And then right at the end of that month, it snowed for 17 hours. And | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
Kent was paralysed. It will go down in history and folk memory at that | :10:44. | :10:54. | |
terrible winter of 1963. It was a remarkable remarkable winter. | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
because the temperatures were so low, we were under a white blanket | :10:58. | :11:08. | |
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until March. That is more than two Villages and farms all over | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
southern eng han, the telephone was the only remaining ling with the | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
rest of the world. If the snow wasn't bad enough, it was | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
occasionally made worse by the wind. Trisha was living in Brighton at | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
the age of 7. So these are the snow pictures from 1963, and a lot of | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
them show that there is not a lot of snow on the roofs because it was | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
really blowing, very windy and we lived opposite east Brighton parks, | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
Wilson avenue, and it was so bad, that there was snow in the loft and | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
I think it's a dog basket up in the loft you can see in the photograph. | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
The wind must have got in under the eves and blown the snow in. There | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
is no holes in the roof and that is how it got in. I remember seeing | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
children walking on top of hengs to the school bus, when the school bus | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
didn't hurn up, they walked to school, because schools didn't | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
close. Transport was badly hit and food supplys to more rural areas | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
were becoming difficult. Someone had to dig the south-east out of | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
the snow, and one of those was David Bennett from Swanscombe. | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
Grateful people would give him and his colleagues food as they worked. | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
One day, a farmer gave them two big raw steaks. We wondered how we were | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
going to cook them. What we did, we made a fire, we cleaned our shovels, | :12:44. | :12:49. | |
right off, clean, put the steak on the shovel, and cooked the steak on | :12:49. | :12:55. | |
the shovel, with a can of baked beans, on the top. And that is how | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
we had hot food. All day long. did it taste? The best steak I've | :13:01. | :13:09. | |
ever tasted! But one of the most remarkable sights of the winter of | :13:09. | :13:19. | |
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63 was right here in Herne Bay. Or more specifically out there. Ice, | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
ice and still more ice. There is not a break between Hampton and the | :13:24. | :13:32. | |
main pier P It was so cold for such a long period of time, that the sea | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
froze along the north Kent coast. By the end of January, the frozen | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
water stretched two-and-a-half miles out to sea. Margate pier and | :13:44. | :13:54. | |
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Freezing conditions overcame the sea which froze for two miles out. | :14:05. | :14:14. | |
Taking on the appearance of a white carpet of ice. Roger Turner was a | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
journalist for the press. Like everyone else, he couldn't believe | :14:18. | :14:28. | |
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what he saw. I had been working on the local paper and was asked if | :14:29. | :14:39. | |
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big story for you? It was. There take photographs and some films of | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
the sea. It was searched any unusual event. For the first time, | :14:49. | :14:56. | |
the Medway froze from Chetham to Rochester. The Navy had to use an | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
ice-breaker to keep Chatham dog free. What Roger remembers what was | :15:02. | :15:09. | |
-- was not so much the site but the sound of the Allies. There was the | :15:09. | :15:19. | |
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rumbling noise. It was quite eerie. The whole PE was vibrating. You | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
could feel it shaking with the force of the ice. Meanwhile in | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
Mayfield in East Sussex, a young farmer set off on a 25 mile journey | :15:33. | :15:41. | |
to see his fiancee. She lived in East Grinstead. Helen was 19 but | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
her mother wouldn't let her get married and tell she was 21. I got | :15:47. | :15:57. | |
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a lift. The roads were so bad so I walked the rest of the way. I don't | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
know how long it took me. When you widen and stupid, you do these kind | :16:03. | :16:13. | |
of things. Derek made a heroic journey trudging for 15 miles. | :16:13. | :16:20. | |
appeared like an overweight snowman. Suddenly my mother said, "if Derek | :16:20. | :16:29. | |
love see that much, you can get married.". Apart from meaning he | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
was 50 years since there was all that snow, it means it is 50 years | :16:34. | :16:44. | |
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Baquoba near Sevenoaks, the high standing village here was cut off. | :16:55. | :17:00. | |
Lesley was part of the team attempting to open the road. He | :17:00. | :17:08. | |
waited whilst a JCB digger went on head. He vanished into this white- | :17:08. | :17:16. | |
out. We sat and waited and waited. Eventually, we saw this snowball | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
coming through the snow towards us. What he hadn't realised was the | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
wind was so strong, as fast as he was digging for Wood, the snow was | :17:26. | :17:32. | |
blowing in behind him. Eventually he gave up and trudged his way back | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
to the lorry. As far as I know, that digger stayed on the top of | :17:38. | :17:44. | |
the common for at least two weeks. Imagine what it was like for Jean | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
Stone at 50 years ago. She'd lived in Southfleet make Gravesend and it | :17:48. | :17:53. | |
wasn't the best time to go into labour with her daughter, Deborah. | :17:53. | :18:01. | |
They called the midwife who made an epic journey to reach them. There | :18:01. | :18:10. | |
was no cards. She walked three miles across to me. It was in the | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
middle of the night. It was quite a triage. Nick Knight in the heavy | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
drifts was quite a challenge. to deliver a baby when she got | :18:20. | :18:30. | |
It was obviously a difficult time for the south-east but it would | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
appear that in the face of adversity, the community pulled | :18:34. | :18:42. | |
together. It was unbelievable. The camaraderie, no one was down. They | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
were laughing and joking. comradeship and everyone helping | :18:47. | :18:55. | |
was fantastic. It was very much a, Rhodri effect. Like the last war. | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
Everybody was looking after everybody else. There is a touch of | :18:58. | :19:06. | |
wartime spirit. Everyone is chatting again. Did you enjoy your | :19:06. | :19:14. | |
work? It was fantastic. It was a sense of being wanted. Two months | :19:14. | :19:19. | |
of snow resulted in chaos but it also left many people with a tale | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
to tell. That is why is it will be a long time before we forget the | :19:26. | :19:36. | |
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Also 50 years ago, a shirt factory opened in the middle of Brighton. | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
The name on the label, Ben Sherman. Robin Gibson and covers the story | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
of Brighton's contribution to British fashion and discovers why | :19:56. | :20:03. | |
successive generations of trendsetters needed a Ben Sherman | :20:03. | :20:10. | |
to look sharp. On the front in Brighton, a place | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
to see and be seen. A picture that could have been filmed at any time | :20:15. | :20:21. | |
during the last 50 years. The cocktail of youth cultures which | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
found space here includes the Mods. I wouldn't feel like I wanted to go | :20:27. | :20:37. | |
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out until I had a pair of stay pressed on and a good coat. I | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
couldn't figure of dressing anywhere else. The skin hope -- the | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
skinheads, they it all weirdly dressed the same to look different. | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
Part of their story started here with a shirt and an name. When I | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
was at school, everyone wore Ben Sherman shirts. A shirt with | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
something about it. They fitted and used to be very snug at the back. | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
The quality of the material. Would you ever buy a Ben Sherman? If it | :21:14. | :21:22. | |
looks cool, I would. If it was colourful. It is not really my | :21:22. | :21:30. | |
thing. Who was Ben Sherman? suppose I was in the right place at | :21:30. | :21:38. | |
the right time, we things that the youngsters wanted. He was a | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
businessman, a wheeler-dealer from a family of Brighton pawnbroker's. | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
Here in the middle of his home town, 50 years have passed since he made | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
a deal to start a clothing factory. The starter for lunch -- the start | :21:54. | :22:00. | |
of a legend, some would say. We won the first floor and apart from Fred | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
Perry, who wasn't a designer, whose name is still going. Ben Sherman is | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
the only fashion icon of those days that is still going. He thought the | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
Sixties people were wanting fashion and colour and he was the man to | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
sell it to them. His ideas came back from America where he read run | :22:21. | :22:27. | |
a clothing business for his first wife's father. Wife number two was | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
drafted into the business. Some ideas didn't work by one stood out. | :22:31. | :22:40. | |
A all he knew was there was a gap in the market and the normal | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
British man going on the beach down at Brighton would be quite happy | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
with a square in Katif on his head and rolling up his white shirt and | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
one in up his trousers and go paddling. What happened was the | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
beach where didn't sell. The terry towelling robes, yes, they were | :22:58. | :23:04. | |
quite good, but the button-down shirt just went down like crazy. | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
The nice piece of cloth that knitted into the fabric of the | :23:08. | :23:18. | |
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The more the press and the media are reporting about a young youth's | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
behaving in some way, the more people hear about it. That is how | :23:24. | :23:31. | |
they learn how to do it. Room of invasion by a undesirables was | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
wading out. Young people get recognised as a market, that people | :23:36. | :23:46. | |
could be sold in a different way. If you and people round the 1960s, | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
they had more money in their pocket. -- young people. They have | :23:51. | :24:01. | |
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different types of jobs from their He is a respected voice and music | :24:08. | :24:15. | |
and style and he remembers well what it meant to wear the shirt. | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
Buying my first Ben Sherman shirt was a really important moment in my | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
life. It was the first time I had saved up money and gone up West to | :24:23. | :24:28. | |
get a garment of clothing. I was 10 and I collected all the money from | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
the family and went to Selfridges. The first time I had gone up West | :24:33. | :24:42. | |
to buy something. What I was going for was a buttoned down Ben Sherman. | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
The birthplace was Brighton, the setting for another piece of | :24:46. | :24:56. | |
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quintessential Mods and rockers Here in Brighton's lanes of met | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
streets where Ben Sherman started out, people still come looking for | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
what he started. The bright colours, but checks, the button-down collars. | :25:12. | :25:22. | |
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You don't have to look very far Mods, asking -- skinheads and two- | :25:34. | :25:44. | |
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tone has come here for or vintage gear like the shed. -- This shirt. | :25:45. | :25:52. | |
These are the choice of the Mods. Buttons on the back, collars. | :25:52. | :25:58. | |
do you think they were so particular about what they wore? | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
Trying to be better than everyone else. The more detail on their | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
shirts, the buttons on the sleeves, it was a working-class thing. They | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
wanted to spend as much as the people that were more affluent. | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
They're nice little touches, they spent their week's pay on a show it | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
sometimes. The brand known worldwide is starting to celebrate | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
its half-century. But the wheels of fashion turning once again. This is | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
the place to ask how and why? button-down shirts, the box pleat, | :26:33. | :26:40. | |
the slim fit. It is a lot more than that. We can look at any kind of | :26:40. | :26:46. | |
product. Does it feel Ben Sherman? Does it have that magic? When we | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
think about Ben Sherman, we imagine what he would think. Family members | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
rarely buy my clothes any more because they know the collar won't | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
be right. If it hasn't got a pleat at the back, I wouldn't be | :26:59. | :27:06. | |
interested. They give up now. If I want clothes come I buy them myself. | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
Ben Sherman became a legend in his lifetime but he sold his company in | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
the Seventies and died in 1987 in Australia from lifelong heart | :27:16. | :27:25. | |
problems. He is still in business. I think today, he would be thrilled | :27:25. | :27:31. | |
and I think he would love to know what that people still buy the car | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
for short -- shirts. In England, we don't go for these colours. He | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
would have been really happy to be here now and be able to say to | :27:42. | :27:52. | |
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For more information on tonight's show, you can visit hour website. | :27:57. | :28:07. | |
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You can watch the whole show ago -- Coming up next week: Another time | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
bomb for our trees. This time, the oak and sweet chestnut. The truth | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
is that this would stop if we got Chestnut applied here. My business | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
would collapse and everyone working in industry would lose their jobs. | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
It would be an environmental catastrophe for the south-east of | :28:28. | :28:33. | |
England. If and are the origins of English literature to be found | :28:33. | :28:39. | |
closer than we think? We need a sure swashbuckling hero and a | :28:39. | :28:44. |