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Is is time to think out of the box when it comes to honey?

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With bee numbers falling, something needs to be done.

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Modern beekeeping is definitely adding to the trouble.

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It's developed in such a way that the most profit can

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be made from the bees.

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If people suggest that we should stop collecting honey,

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they don't actually understand the principle the bees work on.

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And a Hampshire family opens up about their battle with mental

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health and the struggle to get help.

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He'd be taking knives, like this, out of my kitchen drawer.

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He said he wanted people to feel his pain that he was suffering.

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I feel that it's unfair on my family that they've had to put

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up with all of this.

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But they love you.

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Yeah, I know they do, but...

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Every year, thousands of people with mental health problems

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end up in police cells, in court or in prison.

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With one in four of us expected to struggle with our mental health

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at some point in our lives, there simply aren't the support

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services to go round to everybody who needs them.

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David Fenton's been finding out what happens when those asking

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for help are turned away.

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As you can see, both of my windows have gone.

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This was just all smashed and jagged.

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For Anna Holder, living with her son can be difficult.

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This is when Taran's been really frustrated and unable to cope

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with how he's feeling, he's come and actually punched

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through the cupboards, he's had knives and been

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stabbing at the cupboards.

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I'm having to try and calm him down while he's got a knife in his hand

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and punching things.

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For Anna, everything changed when Taran was 11.

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He fell off a swing and cracked his head.

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Taran's always been a joker.

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A happy child.

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Until he had his head injury.

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He became a different person, very angry and aggressive.

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My thought process goes a bit nuts sometimes.

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I don't feel in control all the time, so my mind comes up

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with all sorts of ideas which are going to happen so I m

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starting to get ready for things like fight or flight.

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Taran has paranoia and multiple personality disorders.

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For him, the world outside his house is a scary place.

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I'd end up end up breaking and smashing things in a rage,

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breaking down crying.

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I felt like one day was years.

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I felt like a lot of time I was going through...

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In 2015, his paranoia got worse.

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He began carrying weapons whenever he went outside.

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He'd be taking knives like this out of my kitchen drawer.

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He said he wanted people to feel his pain that he was suffering.

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There was times when people were walking up to me and I've

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put my hand there and I'm ready to take it out.

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So yeah, I guess I was dangerous.

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I could hear people talking outside, so when I walked past them

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that day I knew something was going to happen to me and that

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they're going to get me.

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So I thought, "Right, I m not going to say nothing."

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I started looking out the window a lot as well and then see vans

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waiting outside.

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They could be there for two minutes

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and I'd already come up with something in my head that

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something's going on.

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I thought that someone was definitely out to get me

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and that the people in the area were waiting.

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It's not just been people,

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I've had conspiracy things with the police as well.

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You must have known that was illegal to be carrying

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knives out in the street?

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Yeah, of course I knew it was illegal, but I also

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had my life right at the time.

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I felt my life was at risk, so that's why I carried them.

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What would have been the trigger?

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If I was threatened in any way, then I would have used it.

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I wouldn't have liked to.

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And did you use them?

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Only on myself, in the end.

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Taran wanted to be in hospital.

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His family wanted him sectioned for his own good.

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But the professionals said no.

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I was begging them to come and see him,

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begging the psychiatrists to see him to review the meds,

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begging for him to go into hospital.

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And basically the only way I can describe it is

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they left him like an animal.

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A year on, Taran was still not well.

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I had a phone call from his girlfriend and she was screaming

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and crying and saying Taran had been shouting saying, "I've had

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enough, I want to be dead" and he was actually throwing himself

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in front of cars.

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It ended in a stand off with police.

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Now, he's on his way to court with mum and partner Andrea.

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We are going to court and they will decide whether Taran

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needs to be punished for his mental health or not.

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How are you feeling about that?

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I feel really angry and really upset because we have been asking for help

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since August for psychologist or medication review or anything

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and we didn't get it and the question today should be

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whether Taran get a psychologist and proper help or not.

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And it's still not nothing about helping us.

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He's been charged with damaging cars and spitting at two officers.

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Taran could be going to jail today.

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He is nervous.

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He's been drinking a little bit for a couple of days.

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He doesn t like to make out that he's nervous but he is, definitely.

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You can tell.

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Yeah.

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BLEEP.

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Court is there.

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That's where I go magistrates, I'm not in crown court.

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That's where we go.

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In the taxi, the nerves begin to show.

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It's not BLEEP good, is it?

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Depending on what happens, if they say it was down to my mental

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health or not or if I say I plead guilty, I don t know what's

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going to be the outcome, so I just expect the worst and then

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whatever happens happens.

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I feel it's unfair on my family that I m here and they have to put

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up with all of this.

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But they love you.

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Yeah, I know they do, but...

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It's hard sometimes to explain why.

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I should feel better if they didn't have to put up

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with all the problems in my life.

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What if he goes to prison?

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Well, we wait until he comes home and start again

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the game, asking for help.

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Taran has pleaded guilty.

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He's about to hear his sentence.

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He wouldn't cope in prison.

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No way.

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I think he'd kill himself, that d be it.

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It's quite positive, he's not going to prison.

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It's the result they were hoping for.

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And he will get, hopefully, the proper help.

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He's on a community order,I think that s what they call it.

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The court has ordered Taran to see a psychologist.

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It's exactly what he d been asking for.

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You'll be all right.

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Yeah, it's all sorted now.

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They obviously see I wasn't well at the time

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and took into consideration the things that were going on.

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So I'm lucky this time.

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Yeah, so I'll speak to you when I get home

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anyway, but it's all gone well.

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It's good, isn't it?

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Bye-bye. Bye.

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Outside the court, I notice there's something different about Andrea.

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That's the engagement ring, is it?

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It was a surprise for me, I didn't really expect it.

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He was on his knees.

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So, yeah, bit of crying.

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Quite romantic and really surprising, actually.

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You were very pleased.

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Yeah, I was, yeah, really pleased.

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I'm wearing my ring quite proudly, yeah.

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If you are going to miss an appointment for whatever reason,

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make sure you phone.

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Taran says goodbye to the mental health team who helped in court.

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He'll get the treatment he wants.

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Not everyone is so lucky.

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Taran may struggle with his mental health, but whatever the future

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holds, at least he's not facing it alone.

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David Fenton reporting there.

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If you've been affected by any of the issues

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raised in David's film, grab a pen because details

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of where to get some help and advice are coming up at

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the end of the show.

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Still to come: Joe Crowley asks if Government cuts

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are putting our farmers and our food at risk.

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Just time for a quick reminder about Twitter.

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You can find out more about what we're up to at...

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Next, is our sweet tooth putting the long-term future

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of the honey bee in jeopardy?

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Every year, we get through a staggering half

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a billion jars of honey.

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Are we simply asking too much of the little honey bee?

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Bees ? nature's wonder.

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Man's sweetest friend.

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For thousands of years, we've benefited from these

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incredible insects.

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Here in the UK we consume more than 25,000 tonnes

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of honey every year.

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Bees are very calm, very content and you'll notice we've not used any

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smoke on them at all yet.

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Ian Homer from Dorset has been mastering his skills as a beekeeper

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for the last 36 years.

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Total relaxation.

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I've never come across anything that gives me quite as much variation

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of interest as beekeeping does.

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It also gives you honey.

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There's probably just a little over ?3 of honey there.

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Ian collects around 300 jars of honey every year,

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from his 12 hives near Bridport.

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I enjoy so many different aspects of beekeeping.

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It teaches you so much about geology, about flora,

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about the social structure within the colony.

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Although Ian's hives appear to be healthy,

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the UK population of bees

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has fallen by a third over the last century.

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Some experts blame the use of pesticides and the destruction

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of natural flower rich habitats.

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Others say that intensive farming of bees leaves them more

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vulnerable to attack from the Varroa destructor -

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a parasitic mite that can wipe out a colony.

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In an attempt to halt the bees' decline, in this Sussex garden,

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Heidi Hermann has adopted a controversial

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approach to beekeeping.

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Modern beekeeping is definitely adding to the trouble.

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Over the last 100 years, it's developed into what I could only say

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is a kind of control freak, taking control of every process

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of the hive in such a way that the most profit can be made

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from the bees for their product.

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Heidi is one of a growing number of natural beekeepers

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who are suggesting that our sweet tooth might be contributing

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to dwindling bee numbers.

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How many different colours there are, some more black than others.

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She doesn't use any chemicals and builds hives out

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of natural materials.

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So is it all about trying to keep bees happy with

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the minimal amount of stress?

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Happy is, sort of, a human term, but the main aim

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is to keep the bees healthy.

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Yes, and to keep colonies, long lived colonies, that

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are in tune with their environment and are able to perform

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their pollination task in an effcient way as possible.

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This is a hive made of straw, ideally organically grown straw

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because this is the home where all the babies

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in the future will be raised.

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And as they expand, bees expand downwards not upwards,

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and I gave them more room by putting those boxes underneath.

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The Natural Beekeeping Trust believes taking honey

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from the bees weakens the colony.

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Heidi only harvests a very small amount for use as a medicine.

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And you'd never take honey from this?

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You would never gather honey?

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No, I would not take honey from this because it would mean

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disrupting that hive.

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There are hives I have that make it possible to take honey.

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But, I have to say, it's neither for myself nor for any of my fellow

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trustees in the Natural Beekeeping Trust.

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The honey is definitely not a priority.

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I think if people suggest that we should stop collecting

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honey, they don't actually understand the principle

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that bees work on.

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Bees will go out to gather enough honey for themselves

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and they will keep gathering honey until the nectar flow stops

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or the colony dies out.

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If we stopped gathering honey, eventually we'd get to a stage

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where a lot of colonies would cease to function because they wouldn't

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have anywhere to keep all of the honey.

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Traditional beekeepers, like Ian, also worry that Heidi's chemical

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free approach to disease control could increase

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the spread of Varroa mites.

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They have to remember that the bees that they keep are part

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of a national stock of bees.

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Those bees fly freely and interact with other people's bees.

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And if they're not inspecting for disease, which few

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of the natural beekeepers are able to do because of the way

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in which the bees are kept, then that could spread

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disease into my hives.

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You can't be on the treatment treadmill forever.

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If a colony is stressed, it has no possibility

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of defending itself, of actually developing its own innate

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defences against Varroa.

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My bees have never been treated against Varroa

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and they do absolutely fine, they have better longevity

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than most beekeepers' bees.

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One thing both Ian and Heidi do agree on is that bees need our help.

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In Andover, carpenter Matt Sommerville has taken a natural

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approach to lending a hand.

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Matt, this is everything a traditional hive isn't.

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It's not square.

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No.

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It's just a beautiful thing.

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What's the idea behind it?

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It's not that complicated.

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All I've really done is look at bees in the wild and try to replicate

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a nice habitat for them off the ground, away

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from people and predators, where bees can evolve to be healthy.

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And we're finding that set up in trees, bees just thrive

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without human intervention.

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Bees have been round for millions and millions of years,

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long before we came on the planet, and they've always been looking

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for places like caves or trees, that was their place to go,

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and nowadays a lot of trees are being cut down and there isn't

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a habitat for the bees.

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So by making these, we can allow bees to find them by themselves

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and we're getting strong bees from them.

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This one was my first.

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I had no idea whether bees would find it.

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We just found a suitable looking tree and whacked it up there.

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Within two weeks - bingo, bees found it.

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So the theory is you just let the bees do their thing?

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Yeah.

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If there aren't bees in the area, then you don't get any bees.

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Just like a bird box.

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I quite often come back just to watch them, their progress.

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If the queen's healthy and laying, then they bring back lots of pollen.

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Seeing bees bring back sacks full of pollen is a good sign that

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everything's strong in the hive.

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If they're surviving, then they're genetically strong bees.

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However they're doing it, they're strong.

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We need them so much for pollination, not just

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for ourselves, for all our fruits and vegetables that we eat,

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but for nature, generally, all the flowers in our landscape.

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That's the primary importance of bees.

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No dead bees.

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It's dry and I can just see one Varroa mite in the middle there.

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So it's amazingly healthy, really.

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In this natural environment, the bees appear to be thriving.

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This small scale, hands off approach is what the Natural Beekeeping Trust

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wants to see more of.

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Rather than a few people keeping hundreds or thousands of hives,

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we need thousands of people keeping two or three hives,

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taking honey in small quantities, at the same time using honey only

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for medicinal purposes rather than food.

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Do you get people go, "Aw, it's all well and good,

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but it'll never work in practise?"

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It's almost an idealistic approach.

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It's certainly an idealistic approach, but without idealism

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there will be no future.

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If we carry on in the rapacious way that we are using

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in relation to all of nature, there will be no future.

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What do bees mean to you?

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What fascination do they hold?

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You feel that they know you and they are very

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aware of your intention.

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Yes, I do keep bees for the pleasure of their company.

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They are very pure.

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We need to strive to be the same.

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Now, don't forget, if you want to get in touch with the show why

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don't you drop me an e-mail?

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Finally, these days we expect what we eat to be safe.

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But with Government cuts hitting the labs which help

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keep our farms disease-fre, Joe Crowley has been hearing

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from those who fear our farming industry and, more importantly,

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our health is at risk.

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There's money in meat.

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We spend ?18.7 billion on it every year, so it's no surprise that

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monitoring and stopping the spread of diseases like foot-and-mouth

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is a top priority.

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The fight to eradicate foot-and-mouth has

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been going on for over

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90 years and this place, The Pirbright Institute,

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is right on the front line.

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It's a world-class research facility responsible for developing vaccines

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and trying to control some pretty nasty diseases.

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There are countries that are endemic to foot-and-mouth disease along

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the border of Europe, but what we are starting to see

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is we see certain strains popping up in places that we don't

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usually see them.

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At the moment, we're actually developing something that will look

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like a pregnancy test, where you get a simple

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line across the little cassette to tell you whether or not

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a sample is positive or negative

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and, of course, the quicker that you can identify an outbreak,

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the quicker you can put in certain bio-safety regulations and prevent

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the outbreak from spreading.

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Pirbright may be at the cutting edge, but it has the odd blemish

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on its safety record.

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Pirbright may be at the cutting edge, but it has the odd blemish

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on its safety record.

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The 2007 foot-and-mouth outbreak, which cost farming ?100 million,

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started when the virus escaped from Pirbright.

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In the last decade, there have been 15 safety breaches here,

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including a ?70,000 fine in 2014 for failings

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over foot-and-mouth.

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Why is the record here so poor?

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There is always a risk with running facilities like this,

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but by the infrastructure we have here now and the improved procedures

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and protocols we have in place, I think we've contained that risk

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to the smallest possible.

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You handle live viruses here, with that there's always

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going to be a risk.

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Is it worth it?

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It certainly is, with all the diseases that are approaching

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the borders of Europe.

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We are seeing viruses move like we hadn't

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seen them move before.

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And so there's a real threat of a number of these viruses coming

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into Europe and coming into the UK.

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I would say we're between outbreaks, they're not going away.

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Recent diseases to reach us in Britain include Bluetongue,

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avian flu and then there's the ongoing Bovine TB epidemic.

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Keith Cutler is a vet based in Salisbury.

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His practice is the only one left in this part of Wiltshire,

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covering more than 2,000 square miles, half of it

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in TB infected areas.

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In my experience, it's worse than it's ever been.

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TB is increasing in prevalence and now we have a significant proportion

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of the country endemically infected.

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Wiltshire is now in what's called the high risk area and Hampshire

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is in the edge area where new cases are cropping up fairly frequently.

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Today, Keith is TB testing and checking for pregnancies.

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This dairy farm is constantly producing milk and new calves,

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but recent inconclusive TB results mean they're on lockdown -

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losing money every single day for farmer Phil Shearing.

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I can't sell any calves at the moment, so I've got to either

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keep them or humanely get them killed.

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There's a lot more disease we're finding we've got to do a lot more

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vaccinations and DEFRA being cut is going to affect us big time.

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We're sort of being left out on our own and we are dealing

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with the consequences.

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With the ?220 million animal health budget set to be cut

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by a third within the next three years, seven regional labs that used

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to diagnose and identify new diseases have already shut down.

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Winchester's gone, so Keith's nearest Government lab is now over

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100 miles away.

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Diseases tend not to be investigated to the extent

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that they were when Winchester was open, and it means we don't

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have the surveillance network for the new and emerging diseases.

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Concerns are that our surveillance system will fail.

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A new or exotic disease will already be established in this country

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before we find out it's here and it will be difficult then

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to bring it under control.

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Now, when you see good money being bid for fine beasts like this,

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you might think everything's rosy, but actually farmers are struggling.

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Profits for the industry overall fell by ?1.5 billion last year,

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mainly due to falling food prices, and that means that farmers

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are vulnerable to any outbreak in disease,

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indeed it's thought many wouldn't be able to survive it.

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We could have a lot more help, there could be a lot

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more Government support.

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There aren't enough politicians that farm.

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If they farmed, they wouldn't cut.

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It's farmers that are suffering from not having these

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centres because obviously if they have an animal die

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on the farm they want to know why it died because they want to know

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if there's anything wrong with it and should they,

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what action should they take.

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And so it's getting harder and harder to get

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a postmortem done.

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And it's worrying for the vets, they're all trying to do their very

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best to help everybody, but there s not enough of them.

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And that's the knock-on effect of Winchester closing,

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that you don't have this information at your fingertips you don't

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have a local centre you could have gone to.

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Exactly, we would go, in fact ours would be

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Bury St Edmunds from here, believe it or not.

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We've had two well publicised diseases come into the UK recently,

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bluetongue 2006, Schmallenberg two or three years ago, thank

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goodness those don t cause problems to humans.

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Another very well-known example is something like Zika virus

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which is catastrophic to humans.

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And that's why it's so important that we pick up

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on these diseases early.

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The classic example of that, I suppose,

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is mad cow disease or BSE.

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So, back in 1986, vets started noticing and, farmers of course,

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started noticing some strange behaviour in some of their animals

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and they were able to get a really professional diagnosis from those

0:26:050:26:08

animals by submitting them to their local surveillance centre.

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From that, a whole new disease was discovered which no-one had

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really recognised before.

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We never know what's around the corner.

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So we have to have the facilities in place and we need

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to have the experts in place to deal with that when required.

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There are more than 800 diseases that can pass

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from animals to humans.

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You're in a deep sleep, aren't you?

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Hmm?

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Did you hear that?

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Christine Lord lost her son Andrew 10 years ago to CJD ?

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the human form of BSE.

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To hold your once fit, strong 24-year-old son

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in your arms and watch him die, it's indescribable and the pain that

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I feel today, time doesn t heal.

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Food should be safe, it shouldn't kill.

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I lost my son because of an animal disease.

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I'm just appalled that no lessons have been learnt,

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but I'm not surprised.

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We asked the Government why it's cutting animal health budgets

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and surveillance centres.

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A spokesperson told us

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the remaining labs are in areas with the main

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populations of farmed animals, and that world-class expertise

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at the central lab means it's well placed to detect

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new and emerging diseases effectively.

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But with around 23,000 farms in the south-east, vet Keith Cutler

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is worried we are vulnerable to new disease outbreaks.

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All the time there are cuts coming to the surveillance budget

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and from Government, perhaps, the wrong message is being sent,

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perhaps the message is that it's not important and I think

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it's vitally important.

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There's a reduction in surveillance.

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Is it the start of the end?

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I don't know where it's going, but we're

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probably not as on the ball as we used to be.

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Joe Crowley reporting there. That's just about it for now.

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Plenty more stories from the south to come next week.

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Till then, bye-bye.

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