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Tonight, the homelessness epidemic sweeping across our cities.

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I join the street doctor helping those sleeping rough.

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Rachel Stonehouse heads to Finland in the search for solutions.

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If you are at rock bottom, you are really at rock bottom,

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And I met the ex-squatter creating new homes out

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Any country or area in the world should be able to house its own

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You would have to be living on them moon not

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to notice that there are more people sleeping rough.

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Here, in Gloucester, they are convinced that the answer

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Well, I got up at the crack of dawn to see the other side of the story.

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We walk pass rough sleepers on our high street every day.

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I mean, here, there will be six people sleeping rough.

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So, what is the real scale of the problem?

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This GP in Gloucester has worked with the homeless

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Once a week, he swaps his surgical gloves for a fleecey pair and goes

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Well, we will start by going through the centre of town and see

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Are their tents in the park, or in the disused garages

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If there are any health issues that people have,

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they can come and see me at the homeless clinic

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I am surprised when we head to a location I know well.

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A shopping centre car park right in the city centre.

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Is this a good place for them to hide out?

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There are few places where you can conceal yourself.

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Normally they will sleep behind the ticket machines

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So, unless you know where to look, you can walk past without

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Because you have got the slight warmth of the ducting blowing down

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This car park offers all sorts of places to hide away.

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They usually have to leave here about six, you can see

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Minus four at ten to six in the morning.

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At least we have some shelter here from the rain but it is not

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great on the concrete base, of course.

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John is sleeing in a small tent with his partner and their dog.

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So, are you getting hassle from the council, or...?

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The police and the council, like, even during the day and in town.

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You're not allowed to leave your stuff anywhere.

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You got to start with nothing again and in weather like this,

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You have just got to put up with it, haven't you?

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Have you been moving from place to place?

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We have been here for about two weeks, but they have said

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if we do not move our stuff by 11 o'clock today,

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So I have got to find somewhere else to go.

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I do not know, just find somewhere else.

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The council reckon that there are no homeless people in Gloucester.

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But I cannot see how they can say that when people are on the streets.

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What strikes me about them is that they are just kind

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of stuck in this cycle that they are going to

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Their future is from one day to the next in terms of where

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on earth are they going to find somewhere that is safe

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but they are not going to be persecuted, attacked,

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robbed or have their belongings taken away by the council?

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Alan says homelessness is increasing in Gloucester,

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Are you going to come down to the breakfast club

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We have asked him to keep a diary of the number of rough sleepers

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I think you will find one of us frozen soon, it is that cold.

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It is OK outside in the month of May and June,

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you can get away with it, but not now, you need to be indoors.

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Gloucester City Council has recently tried to reduce

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begging on the streets with tougher punishments.

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The Safer Streets scheme also tries to discourage the public from buying

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We see people spending their money on drugs quite a lot

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of the time and unfortunately, when well-meaning people give

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food instead of money, that just frees up the money that

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people would have spent on food that they can now spend on drugs.

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There used to be a 21-bed emergency night shelter in Gloucester,

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Not for a lack of demand, says the mayor who used to run it.

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The council do not want to have people being homeless in Gloucester,

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councillors are saying things like the only reason that homeless

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people come into Gloucester at the moment is that they come

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here still expecting to find a night shelter.

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Now, when we were in the process of shutting down, they were saying

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that the only reason that homeless people came into Gloucester

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They blamed us then and they blame us now and in my view,

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it is blaming the messengers for the message.

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The bottom line is there is simply not enough accommodation.

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All over Britain, homelessness is increasing, why should

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It was a big part of your life, wasn't it?

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20 years of my life trying to do the best I could with what I had...

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I grew up in Gloucester, but at 6am out with Dr Harris,

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So, in here there will be possibly up to six people sleeping rough.

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So, the lady with the bad chest condition will be in there.

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You must be absolutely frozen, aren't you?

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I'm a wuss, I'm a wussy Englishman, you're...

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Bozena is from Poland and her English isn't great.

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But it is clear her living conditions are not

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This woman is sitting on her own in their with a chest infection.

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And it has been like that for 20 years in Gloucester.

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There is another one like this in Tredworth,

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there is Brockworth, there are further ones in central

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We are fighting a losing battle and ultimately,

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Remember the diary we asked Dr Harris to keep of the number

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of rough sleepers he came across in one month?

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Gloucester City Council estimates the number at just 13.

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Well, I do not think that we are missing

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Because of the work we do with our partners, we pretty much

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know everybody that is on the street and their circumstances.

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We have been out and we have seen people sleeping

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So, the true figure that you say does not tally with that

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because you are not actually counting them properly.

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Well, there probably is an element that we are not aware of because...

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We can only count the numbers we are aware of and we can only take

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action to help people who we met and engage with.

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But I think we're doing that pretty successfully,

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certainly in terms of those that we see and the concentration

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But I have seen with my own eyes the real scale of homelessness

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My time spent with Dr Harris in Gloucester has been just

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a glimpse of the problem in the West.

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Homelessness is increasing and I wonder if many of us

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are in the dark about the reality of how some people

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closing our curtains and shutting our doors to those

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Check out our Facebook page to hear more voices from the street.

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Give homeless people a home, it is what they are doing

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in Finland, the only country in Europe where homelessness

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A country known for its cold weather and sparse population.

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But while there is a noticeable increase in rough sleepers

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on the streets in the UK, in Finland it is a very

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We have just walked through a park and we would have expected to see

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rough sleepers on the benches in the park, and there weren't any.

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So what is the secret of the country?

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Lisa Lewis runs a drop-in centre for homeless people

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Part of her job is helping people find somewhere to sleep.

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As a female on the streets, they will automatically get

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you a house somewhere in emergency accommodation.

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If that does happen and you haven't got anywhere to stay,

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we can get you over to Julian House in Bath because I don't want

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It is fine, I have still got another two weeks anyway...

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The drop-in has seen an increase in rough sleepers and Lisa

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There are so many different facets to it.

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You have a whole issue about putting people

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into emergency accommodation, which does not work

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You have the issue of not having enough housing

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available, so there is not enough accommodation available.

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You then have issues with the fact that all of the support services

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are underfunded and having budgets cut and that is right

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across the board, so that is mental health, physical health,

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drugs and alcohol, it is really important that you get

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all of the services able to help someone from the very beginning

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and that is where we are failing because those services are not

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always available or there is a waiting list.

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Finland has a different approach and it seems to be working.

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Lisa has agreed to travel there with me to find out what it is,

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but after a decade working on a broken system, she is cynical.

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When somebody turns around and tells you there are no rough

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slepers in Helsinki, you are like, "yes, right!"

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But then there is a little bit of you that thinks,

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Since the 1980s, homelessness has been steadily decreasing here,

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Give people who are homeless a permanent home, rather

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Unlike the UK, emergency accommodation is a thing

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of the past, there is now just one hostel in the whole country.

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We have come to an area on the outskirts of Helsinki to find

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out more about supported housing, specifically for young people.

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So, this is, like, the communal area?

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One of the reasons Fernando likes this place is it is a dry house.

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It is annoying to see all of the drugs in the place you live in.

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You do not want that in your own house, do you?

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There is on-site help here for drug and alcohol

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addiction as well as a sauna, a gym, and laundry facilities.

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It is nice that you have got the rugs and things like that.

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You cannot focus on anything if you do not have an apartment

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because you cannot work, where do you sleep?

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Here, there is no limit on how long people can stay for.

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Back in Helsinki, there are a number of large,

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old apartment blocks and while they might not be

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as swanky, they provide homes for those in need.

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How long were you sleeping on the streets for?

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Why do you think that this accommodation is better

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than the previous shelters that you were in?

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When he was outside and there was a lot of shelters that time,

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you could not go there if you had been drinking and a lot of people

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of people who stay outside, they drink because it is

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Here, you must take responsibility for your drinking

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And here, you get support, of course, but he has said he does

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not drink because he does not have to.

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Walking around at night, it is visibly different to the UK.

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Areas of the city where you might expect to see rough sleepers,

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So, Lisa, what d'you think about what you have seen so far?

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It has been a bit mind-blowing, actually.

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Everything in the UK is so in the now or in

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The greatest period of time is the next two years.

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Let us talk about the visibility in Helsinki of rough sleepers.

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Would you say before you came here that you were sceptical

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that this idea that they were no rough sleepers was a bit of a myth?

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I mean, you do not want to be cynical, but there is that bit

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In the UK, you will never get a proper representation of how many

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people are rough sleeping on any one night.

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So when someone turns around and tells you that they do not have

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any rough sleepers in Helsinki, you think, "yes, right!"

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But then there is another bit that says, "let's go and find them".

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But actually, we haven't seen anyone bedded down,

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and that is kind of, like, that is really surprising.

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Despite searching, we have not seen anyone who is street

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homeless the whole time that we have been here.

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And across the whole country, there are now only a few hundred

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rough sleepers compared to the thousands

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To find out more about how this change has happened,

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we have come to the headquarters of the Y-Foundation,

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This is our office, we have around 80 co-workers working here.

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Some of the staff have also been homeless.

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How did you come to get housing with the Y-Foundation?

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Housing, because I have some issues like the mental ones

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and the social and financial ones, and I could not provide

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the house-rented flat for me, for myself and I needed help.

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There are days when I am like, one more coffee cup and I am going to...

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It is helping people and I can see it, because when someone is coming

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on the other side of the desk, like, they have just got the house

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and they are going to get the keys from me on the desk,

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I can say to that person, I know how you feel.

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If you are at rock bottom, you are really at rock bottom,

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But it is about having that first chance.

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She never had to sleep on the streets or stay in a hostel,

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something the Y-Foundation has worked hard to avoid.

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Hostels have been converted into apartments and private rental

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properties have been bought up for social housing.

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It means people are instead trusted with rental contracts to help give

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them stability and a place to call home.

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What are your thoughts on homelessness back in the UK?

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The situation seems to be quite terrible.

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If you do not have the political will, it is very difficult

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for individuals and individual organisations to do a proper shop.

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Do you think that the Finnish model can be adopted in the UK?

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Of course, the landscape of the problem is very different,

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but the structure of the problem is similar and the

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We know that there are things that really work, we know that people

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need affordable housing and we know that to solve homelessness

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you simply also have to build new houses, new homes.

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As our time in Finland draws to a close, it is clear the mindset

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Is there anything about the approach here that you think

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It will take some really brave people to set up pilot projects

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with a specific proper formal model and run it actually as a pilot

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project and prove that it works and then get the backing

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so that it is rolled out across the country.

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Because what will happen is that it will come back and they will say,

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And that's what he said, it is not about the money.

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Because actually the money that you are spending on other things can

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be taken away from that and used towards this.

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Because in the long run, actually, it will save money.

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But in the UK, do we have the belief that people can overcome

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One expression we heard during our time here -

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"no one has yet failed in the future."

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So that is one way to solve homelessness, build more homes.

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But why do that when there are thousands of buildings

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across the region already lying empty?

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This is Decourcy House in St Pauls, Bristol.

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I first came here in 2015 when the police were evicting

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The conditions that people were living in were shocking.

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I have to tell you, the smell here is unbearable.

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It is cluttered with lots of debris from all over the place and these

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corridors move off the smaller rooms that have about three

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The building had already been empty for several years and guess what,

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almost 18 months later, I was last here,

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And it is not only this building, just around the corner,

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a whole street has been boarded up for years.

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Across the city, there are more than 800 empty commercial buildings

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and almost 900 homes have been empty long-term.

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Could we be making better use of these buildings?

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I heard about a group of people determined to change this situation.

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We are interested in taking over derelict buildings,

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usually office or industrial buildings and turning them

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into houses for people who otherwise find it very difficult to get

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onto the housing ladder, perhaps even going homeless.

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Did you find yourself in that situation in the past?

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Yes, I did, about 20 years ago I found it very difficult

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to find anywhere to live and I was in a squat

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And that seems to have continued for other people,

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nothing has got better, in your opinion?

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Unfortunately, the situation seems to have got much worse.

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Tell me about this site, what will it turn into

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We hope to be able to house at least ten people here,

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just a drop in the ocean at the moment, but it is a start.

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The other thing that is important is that it will show

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What is your ultimate dream with all of this?

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Well, I think the main thing is that this starts a programme

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going of housing people, which this country seems to have

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been shamefully ignoring for the last 20 plus years.

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To me, it is basic, any region, country or area in the world should

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be able to house its own people if it has any self-respect.

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According to government figures, there are more than 1,000

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Last year, Virginia and her five-year old son Michael became

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I dropped Michael off at nursery, went to the council office just

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with a bag of stuff and said, "hello, we are homeless"

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and we have been in emergency accommodation since then.

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How are you? Thank you very much. This is not bad. We are lucky. But

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the thing is, we could be moved any time. There is no guarantee that we

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would have been able to stay here. She said we could be moved at 24

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hours notice. It is the insecurity of not knowing. How is your son

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coping? Has behaviour is tricky to begin with. He is unsettled, it is

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difficult for him. Good. I am always settled, you naughty women! We're

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not meant to have guests here, so we cannot have friends around. That is

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hard. Yes. For a long period, that is really difficult. How did you

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come to be here? We had been living in a rented house for the last five

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years, unfortunately, the landlady decided that she needed to sell the

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house. I looked for somewhere else to live. I am working three days

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each week and at the moment the rent is subsidised by housing benefits. I

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had a landlord reference and an employer reference and I have never

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defaulted on rent in my life. But they just said no, as soon as they

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discover that you have housing benefit. What has been homeless men

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to you? Not being able to make a place your own, not knowing if you

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are going to be able to stay there long term. Not being able to engage

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in your local community, I think that is huge. All of those things

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are really a huge part of being stable and being normal and being a

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part of society. When you cannot do those basic things, people do not

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appreciate how difficult and how stressful and how disruptive that

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is. Back at the building site, the timber-framed extension has been

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added. This building will only house a tiny fraction of Bristol's

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homeless population, but remember, our research has revealed there are

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835 commercial properties within the city. Other regions have similar

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numbers. More than 7000 in total. On top of that, there are more than

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8000 homes that have been empty for six months or more. If the building

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is almost finished. Virginia has been selected as one of the lucky

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ten residents. This will be her two-bedroom flat, complete with

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balcony. It is going to cost ?695 each month. That includes a service

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charge and free Wi-Fi. There is also off street parking, communal laundry

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facilities and a common room with a shared garden. It is time to start

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moving her stuff in. Kitchen stuff... I just really think that a

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lot of the stuff will not fit into the flat. Yes, there is no way there

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will be room for all of this stuff. The other thing about rented places,

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each time you furnish it, then you have to move again and the furniture

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does not fit the next place, it is a real pain. You OK?

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Bristol's Cabinet member for housing is invited to make the official

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snack. No jokes about council cuts! I am so proud of the people who have

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done this. I really hope that next time we cut the ribbon on one of

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these, I can say, yes, the council did support this and help. -- snip.

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But this time, they did not, this million pound project is being

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equally funded by a bank loan and the community share offer. This way

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people who put in money will get a small return on their investment.

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CHEERING After the ribbon cutting, Michael is

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forced through the door. A few days ago, I went to see how

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she is settling in. I have brought her a present. I hope that she likes

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it! Hello. Hello, Virginia. Thank you. Happy house-warming. Bless you,

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that is really sweet. Look at this place. Wow! That is really nice,

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is like a springboard to the future. is like a springboard to the future.

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Yes, and also, knowing that the rent will always be affordable, we will

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not suddenly have the rent paid up. It is amazing. It goes to show it

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can be done. They have managed to build this place that you really

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high spec and the shareholders will still make some money. So it is

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completely possible. You can keep up-to-date with what we are up to on

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Facebook and even take a look behind the scenes. Check this out, this is

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what it looks like from where I am standing. That is it for this week.

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Thank you for watching. Good night. Next week, who is living next door?

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The new face of prostitution in our communities. We actually could not

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believe that there was a tenant who had decided to run a Thai brothel

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here.

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