20/03/2017 Inside Out Yorkshire and Lincolnshire


20/03/2017

A victim of the Rotherham abuse scandal reveals her identity for the first time. And investigating one of the 20th century's most famous photographic hoaxes.


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This week, a woman whose testimony helped convict notorious Rotherham

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child abusers reveals her identity the first time.

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The child victims of Rotherham who stood up to the abuses, the woman

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who blew the whistle for years ago takes a brave step of revealing her

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identity. I am nervous, I am so glad, I am ready to move forward in

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my life. Also, the top sports coaches who say they would be better

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off abroad. In my experience, coaching, there is an element where

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it is expected but not enough. And later, fairies at the bottom of the

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garden, one of the great photographic hoaxes of the 20th

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century. They believe this is a genuine photograph? I do. My mother

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was honest. I think this is absolute proof she saw fairies.

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Child abuse victims often reluctant to reveal the identities and that is

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in the case the last four years for the Rotherham child abuse

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whistle-blower known as Jessica, but the first time she has now taken the

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brave step of revealing her identity and spoke to Amy.

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The girl known as Jessica has spoken to hundreds of journalists over

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the past four years but she s never shown her face.

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As a victim of sexual crime, she is entitled to lifelong

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anonymity but she has chosen to speak to me for the

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My name is Sammy, I ve been known as Jessica for 4 years now,

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Which I did that because I came forward as a victim who suffered

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from child abuse as a child and I came forward to try and raise

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awareness, but of course my main priority was to be safe

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How does it feel to be known as the real you?

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I m nervous, it was such a big move to make but I m so glad I m so ready

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to move forward in my life, I m ready to move in to my next

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Let s go back to your childhood, what kind of child were you?

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I was bubbly, confident, I loved to always be active,

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I loved dancing, I started dancing at the age of 4, that s all I really

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Sammy met serial child abuser Arshid Hussain

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He was talking to my friend and he said, do

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So we got in the car and we went to a flat.

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He had some friends there and one of his brothers.

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So I remember sitting in the car and he stroked my face

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and he said You re not really 16, are you?

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And I said No, I m 15. And he said No you re not.

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And I said OK then, I m 14. And then it was, yeah,

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Pretty much we were boyfriend and girlfriend from then on.

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Within a few days my parents found out, they weren t happy

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at all as you can imagine - he was 24, I was 14.

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As well as my parents knew of his reputation and they knew

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he was a person that I shouldn t be getting involved with

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and they contacted police and the police said that

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as I was consenting to it that there was nothing that they could do

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So he was a 24 year old man, the police said

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We can t do anything about this, she s consenting ?

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Yeah and as well he was extremely well known to the authorities,

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he was involved in just about every crime you can imagine.

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I wasn t the first or the last child that he was abusing and he was known

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Sammy s family were very unhappy about her new relationship.

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We found out pretty quick to be honest.

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I don t know whether it was the age gap but she become

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I was seen on many occasions with him by the police.

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There were times that I was actually found in bed with him half naked.

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Nobody really wanted to do much apart from my parents.

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I was going missing from home and school for days,

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weeks, sometimes even months at a time.

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Our relationship broke down really quickly.

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I saw my mum crying and my dad searching for her.

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It was just like she was completely brainwashed.

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There was times when I was having fun.

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We went to the cinema, went out for meals.

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It felt like a normal relationship with two adults.

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It was a few months later that he became

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He started hitting me and then it was on a daily basis.

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I knew I needed to get away from him but it was like a drug and I kept

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The kind of education we d had around paedophiles

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They were smartly dressed, they had flash cars.

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My parents put me in care thinking I d be safe but that

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The authorities said if he met me at the end of the street and had me

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back by 10 for school, he could have access to me.

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While in foster care, Sammy gave birth to her son by Arshid Hussain.

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Many years later, in 2016, Arshid Hussain, now in a wheelchair

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after a shooting, was finally sentenced to 35 years in prison

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for abusing many young girls over two decades.

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Ash is now doing time for what he did to you and many other children.

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It depends what frame of mind I m in.

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There s times when I still feel angry at him, there s times

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when I want to cry and then there s times when I think a part of me

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will always love him because he gave me my son.

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That s really difficult isn t it, he s the father of your child

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and there s always going to be that connection with him?

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In 2014, Rotherham made headlines all over the world as the scale

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of abuse that had taken place in the town became clear

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How did you react when you heard that number ? 1400 children victims

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I was saying from the beginning that there was a cover-up

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I kind of felt, in a way, that my name had been cleared

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Of the amount of men you know were involved in child sexual

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exploitation in Rotherham, how many of them

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There s still a long way to go but I think that now it s time

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We ve seen perpetrators held accountable and

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But I don t think any of us will be able to move forward ?

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or move forward as a town, until those professionals

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How many perpetrators do you think are still walking the streets?

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And I think unfortunately a lot of those will always remain

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There s going to be so many people get away with this.

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That s something that every single person that failed or that

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committed a crime has to live with for the rest of their life.

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These people were paid to protect these children,

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no matter where they were from, what agency they were from.

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What s the situation in Rotherham at the moment?

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I d love to be able to stop CSE but we never will.

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It s about reducing it, making it hard for paedophiles.

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Do you have any confidence that the authorities are dealing

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Let s face it, couldn t get any worse.

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The Operation Clover team have been brilliant with me and I now expect

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every police officer to reach that standard and it s not happening.

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The strength she s shown to educate people about this is amazing.

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How do you feel coming out as Sammy, not as Jessica any more?

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I feel like I can get on with my life.

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I think there are positive things to come for me and the rest of the

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girls. If you have any comments about nights programme all is the

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real we might like the couple, get in touch on Facebook or Twitter.

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Coming up, the girls who said they saw fairies at the bottom of the

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garden. Behind every Olympic medal winner,

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there s an outstanding coach. But now some top sports coaches

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in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire fear their work is being undervalued

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? and they could leave for It s a chilly Tuesday night in

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Bolton upon Dearne, near Rotherham. Young rugby league

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players are in training. It s like this at hundreds

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of sports clubs - as usual, Next minute, you are taking the

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session. I just enjoy giving something back to the sport that has

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given me so much. Dearne Valley Bulldogs have 13 teams

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and nearly 40 volunteer coaches. For most people, this is what sport

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coaching is all about. There is also volunteer coaching who

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have a big input in the future stars of this country.

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But, sometimes, amateur coaching isn t enough.

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Elite performers need top class coaches.

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And, in some Olympic sports, despite Lottery funding,

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there doesn t seem to be enough money to go round.

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In the Rio Olympics last year, City of Leeds divers Jack Laugher

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and Chris Mears won Britain s first-ever diving gold.

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It was a triumph shared with their coach, Adrian Hinchliffe.

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He has been key to making city of Leeds the top performance Centre in

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the country but after 24 years, you sleeping.

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When I broke the story Ady was going, it was clear

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there was anger and regret from the divers he d coached.

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He has his reasons for why he's leaving and I think to be honest, he

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has been forced to leave. I think it's a massive insult to him and his

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legacy. Ady leaves Leeds for an elite diving

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coach job in Australia next week. And he s got a farewell message ?

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he says we don t put enough value on full-time professional rather

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than amateur, coaches. I think British sport, my experience

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in British diving, there isn't an where it is expected, but not

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enough. People outside the sport will be surprised you got a

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full-time coach, your job is with the council? I know, it's the

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pick-up to get your head around. Apart from running be developed

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programme, the development, I have been tasked with managing and the

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after swimming and synchronised swimming.

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After his success in Rio, Ady wanted to coach full-time,

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so he had a meeting with British Diving.

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Unfortunately we had that meeting, it was just that money hasn't been

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allocated in other areas, other priorities, that have been prepared,

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there may be an opportunity, they were very much thinking it would be

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something they could do. How do you think they are valued by the powers

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that be? They are not rewarded enough, professional developer isn't

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considered enough, so I think there is something missing.

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So how do you encourage top-level professionals in a coaching industry

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A survey last year found 74 per cent of coaches in all sports

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across Yorkshire and Lincolnshire are unpaid volunteers.

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In Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, there are nearly 170,000

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So is that the end of it? Or with the success in London and real,

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could others be set to follow? Sheffield-based Jessica Ennis-Hill

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became one of our most She won Olympic gold in the women s

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heptathlon in London, followed by a silver in Rio

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four years later. And her coach Toni Minichiello

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was with her all the way through. I got the coaching by accident

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really. I think there is a need at any sport for somebody to do the

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organising, and so forth, I think its last man standing, so basically

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I took the plunge and went full and gave up a job in the civil service

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and said, if you're going to work with people who can achieve at the

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highest level, if they are going to be training 30 hours a week, you

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better be around. So at some point you have two turn pro. I think I

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just need to stay back over and work on this. Was the turning point the

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Young Jessica Ennis-Hill? Definitely, that's where the

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opportunity came. I need a few more degrees. 2012, she wins the gold,

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everybody would think you would be a wanted coach? Planned change, every

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four years when lottery money is decided upon, it is given to the

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governing body, they use the money and shape their programme

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accordingly, after 2012 the changed the shape of their programme and I

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was surplus to requirements. The whole purpose of the run-throughs is

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Seppi shape... Since then, Toni has worked

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as a freelance coach. Following Jess s retirement he s got

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a group of young athletes. You just keep working, charge the

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athlete a bit of money but there are a few athletes here, they are at the

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cusp point whereby, if they put the hours and the time in, maybe they

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could make that transition to the top flight. You can either help them

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we can abandon them, what do you do? Have you had offers to work abroad

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in other countries? I had a couple of discussions. But whatever reason,

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it's kind of, it's not what I want to do.

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In Rio, Bryony Page won Great Britain s first-ever Olympic

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She s based in Sheffield, and I m about to watch her coach

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As well as working with Bryony, he s a university lecturer,

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teaching students who want to be coaches themselves.

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For his students, it s an unexpected bonus.

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In some sports, coaches get a lot more recognition, like football and

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rugby. You have coaches like Paul, with the success, gets minimal

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attention. I'm surprised there aren't coaches full-time. There is

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not a lot of money within high-performance coaching but at the

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same point, you could say, surely I should be coaching full-time, as it

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happens with my situation, I managing to juggle both but it is

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complex. Since Bryony s success,

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Paul s had job offers from abroad, and he s about to go to Australia

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on a three-week working trip. Bryony s hoping he

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doesn t decide to stay. He has been the backbone to

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everything, but a lot of effort in and pushed me on and has been

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through the highs and lows, he's always there for me when I need him.

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UK Sport told us they highly value coaches and are committed

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Meanwhile, top coaches are having to make decisions

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Paul Greaves is back from his trip to Australia.

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And he s settled on his future ? at least for now.

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I did think, the weather, the lifestyle, great opportunities over

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their, they do pay coaches well in Australia, but my roots are here and

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I love Great Britain so much. Now, once upon a time

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on the outskirts of Bradford, fairies were seen on the banks

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of a small beck at Lucy Hester investigates one

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of the great hoaxes of the 20th century which took place exactly one

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hundred years ago this year. It s a place where you can

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imagine magic happening. She got so excited

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she shouted to Frances, In the dark days of the Great War,

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a little bit of fairy dust was sprinkled here on the outskirts

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of industrial Bradford. In the summer of 1917,

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two young girls claimed to have taken photographs of fairies ?

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here at the bottom of The legend of the Cottingley

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fairies was born. It wasn't until the 1980s that one

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of the girls ? Elsie - by now well into old age -

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finally admitted how Sticky tape at the back, the fairy,

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and have managed to limit down. But one of the girls maintained

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throughout her life that one of the five fairy

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photographs was real. And her daughter

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is also in no doubt. Do you believe that this

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is a genuine photo of fairies? I do, my mother was honest,

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she always said she saw fairies and I think that this

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is absolute proof. This is Cottingley ? a small,

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quiet suburb of Bradford. Frances Griffiths and her mother

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came to live here in 1917 with her uncle and aunt

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and her older cousin Elsie. Her father had been sent

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to fight in the war. After school Frances would often

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play in the beck which ran along She loved it, she said

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it was very magical, peaceful. men coming down to the woods hopping

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across the beck and then But when Frances told her aunt

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and uncle that she had seen fairies at the bottom of the garden,

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she got short shrift. So her cousin Elsie hatched a plan

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to prove the adults wrong. She managed to fake up three fairies

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and two extra ones all dancing She painted and cut them out,

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In those days people wore very large hats so had large hat pins,

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she got the idea if they got one of these hat pins, we stick it

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on the back of the paper and stick it in the ground, it will look

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like they're dancing. They had to have hat

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pins about that length. If it had been later on,

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we couldn t have done it because they only stayed that long

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for a while. And so the first two fairy pictures

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were created in 1917. The first called the Fairy Ring

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featured Frances with The second had Elsie

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posing with a paper gnome. But it wasn't until three years

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later that the photographs caused worldwide headlines,

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when they came to the attention of the creator of Britain's

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most famous detective. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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got involved, that was Beginning of the agony

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for my mother as well. It was never meant to get that far,

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but once they got into it, how In 1920 Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote

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an article about the Cottingley fairies after they came

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to the attention of an associate Soon the whole world

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began to take notice. Conan-Doyle was just one of those

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people who very sincerely and very honestly believed in something

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which most people nowadays don't. Particularly in the period

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after the First World War when there is a lot of interest

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in spiritualism and a lot of people had lost loved ones,

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including Conan Doyle, What was it about the images that

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caused people to think So when the first photographic

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expert to examine the first two photographs looked at them,

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he believed that he saw movement on one of the fairies and for him

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that introduced an element It's a paper cut out

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in the outdoors, and a gust of wind This is the very camera

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with which the two original fairy photographs were taken

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100 years ago. How

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easy would it be to take a quick Almost impossible? it would require

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you to set up the shot. People asked afterwards why

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she wasn t looking at the fairies. It was because she could only

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see five bits of paper In 1920, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle sent

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two brand new cameras for Elsie and Frances to take

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more fairy photographs. Elsie had prepared two

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photographs, two fakes. One of them she had promised

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Gardner a leaping fairy, so she had manufactured one

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that was flying. An academic called Joe Cooper

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who lived in Leeds was fascinated by the fairies story and made

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it his business to get to know Did he approach it thinking it was

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real or a thinking it was a hoax? But around seven years

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after he first met Frances and Elsie, Joe Cooper finally

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discovered the truth. Accounts vary as to

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how that happened. I believe Frances confessed

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in Canterbury cathedral I can t imagine what that must have

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been like for my dad. But Frances told her daughter that

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Joe had actually read her secret She didn't realise what he was going

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to do but two weeks later the news broke that the Cottingley story

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was based on fakes. Joe Cooper subsequently wrote a book

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about the Cottingley fairies hoax which led to a definitive fall out

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with Frances and Elsie. But there was one thing

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on which he and Frances did agree. While both cousins agreed that four

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of the five pictures were fakes, they told completely different

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stories about the fifth picture ? Christine Lynch describes to me how

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she says the fifth and most She pulled out the lens to this

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distance and set the timing for it then she just clicked it

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and took the photograph. There is one on the left hand side,

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almost invisible. It's a wonderful, wonderful

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photograph. If it was examined with today s

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modern technology, maybe we d be But Michael Terwey from the media

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museum thinks there may be a more This looks like it might have been

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exposed twice the different scenes so those qualities of that image,

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which for some people made feel if the real and more authentic, as an

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image of fairies, is consistent with what we call double exposure.

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Do you believe that s a true photograph of a real fairy?

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And despite the fallout, Joe's family say he believed too.

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I don t think he had any doubt that it was real.

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One of his favourite phrases was It s not

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whether you believe in fairies, it s whether they believe in you.

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One thing's for sure ? even if the photographs were fakes,

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Frances Griffiths really did believe she had seen fairies down

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That's all from Sheffield. Join us next week. We will look at the

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problems of domestic dogs leave behind and music inspired by the

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Humber Bridge.

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Inside Out Yorkshire and Lincolnshire presented by Paul Hudson.

One of the victims of the Rotherham abuse scandal reveals her identity for the first time, Tanya Arnold asks whether we are seeing a brain drain of Olympic-level coaches, and Lucy Hester investigates one of the 20th century's most famous photographic hoaxes - the Cottingley fairies.


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