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The end of a remarkable career that saw a republican from the Bogside


embracing the political process, ultimately leading to


Tonight on The View, we look at the political legacy


From the rubble strewn streets of 1970s Derry to the gilded


rooms of Windsor Castle, Martin McGuinness has been a major


figure on the political scene for more than 40 years.


Now, due to ill-health, he's standing aside.


The question I ask myself is, are you capable, are you physically


capable of fighting this election with the intensity collections need


to be Fort? The answer is I am not physically capable.


With me in the studio, the DUP MP, Ian Paisley,


whose father had a remarkable relationship with Mr McGuinness,


Conor Murphy of Sinn Fein, and our Political Editor,


And from our Foyle studio, Denis Bradley, who knows


Sinn Fein does a U-turn on a public inquiry into RHI.


What impact will that have on the crisis that saw another


I'll be asking the opposition parties what they want


And after another week of twists and turns,


in Commentators' Corner we've Professor Deirdre Heenan


After weeks of speculation over his future, the announcement


finally came in an interview in his home town.


One of the most prominent political figures of the last 40 years


confirmed he will never again be an elected representative.


Our Political Editor, Mark Devenport, spoke


In the aftermath of the assembly election last year, I agreed to stay


on. I said I would do it for a further year, that would bring me to


the 8th of May. It would have been the tenth anniversary. That was a


very historic moment. There was the crisis of Stormont and a big


decision had to be made as to whether or not I would contest that


election. A lot of decisions had to be taken into consideration so I've


given a lot of careful thought to death over the course of the last


couple of weeks. The question I ask myself, are you physically capable


of fighting this election with the intensity that lecterns need to be


fought? The answer is that I am not physically capable. Are you


disappointed that your decision to retire from politics have come at a


time when the Stormont institutions have effectively collapsed and how


hard do you think you will be to restore them? These things cannot be


seen in isolation. I think that is sheared by their sympathy to all


things Irish. Please institutions could only work on the basis of


equality. Specifically in relation to the scandal, I provided a way out


for Arlene Foster and she refused to take it. I phoned her and I said,


Mike Nesbitt is calling for a head. He is calling for your resignation.


Without an enquiry of any description. What I am asking for is


your cooperation to do what Peter done previously, stand aside for


four or five weeks. She refused to do so. Your journey has been


remarkable from the early days when you were pretty open about your role


within the RIAA to later days when you were seen as a peacemaker. --


IRA. Do you regret anything about your earlier endorsement of the use


of violence to further your aim is? People have to consider the


circumstances that existed at the time joining the IRA. In the city,


people were being murdered by the RUC. Whether they were being


murdered wholesale as they were on bloody Sunday. Many young people


like myself supported by many thousands of people in the city, the


majority, decided to fight back. I don't regret any of that. But I


think that people can judge all of that. The don't understand what was


happening in the city at the time. Is there anything the Martin


McGuinness of today would tell the Martin McGuinness of the early 70s


now with the benefit of hindsight in what you've seen? There's no point


in me telling the Martin McGuinness the 70s anything about what he


should or should not have done at that time. There were particular


circumstances that existed in the city when the city was occupied,


where people were being downtrodden as a result of the Unionists and


Stormont supported by the British Army. I have to deal with all of


that on a very philosophical way. I am proud of the tradition that I've


come from but I'm equally as pride of the people who are about to


emerge next week and you will know about this next week, the new


leadership in the north. I think people will be inspired. Will you


see a united Ireland in your lifetime? I am very determined to


ensure we continue for the work of the reunification of Ireland.


Obviously I will not be ever again an elected representative but I


would hope that I would have a key role to play in terms of continuing


to build support for the peace process, build support for unity,


build support for reconciliation and in terms of reconciliation, I don't


think I could be criticised by anyone for what I have done that.


Although there have been some Republicans, mostly on the extremes,


even someone mainstream, who thought that meeting the Queen, going to the


Somme, going to Flanders Fields, the many other acts of reconciliation


that I've been involved in was a bridge too far. The argument was


always put that it was a bridge too far for them, not because they were


opposed in principle but because there was no reciprocation coming


from the DUP. I don't actually remember the last time I heard a


member of the DUP the word reconciliation when you consider the


fact that Arlene Foster has been in the post now for a year. I have


memories of Peter's speech in New York when he talks about the need to


work together. I haven't heard any of that from the present leadership


of the DUP. Mark, you were there


with Mr McGuinness in I've conducted in many interviews


over the year with Martin McGuinness but I think this was the first time


when off-camera didn't see him in there, but his wife was there, one


of his brothers was there, one of his sons was there providing company


and support for him. Whilst we were setting up the gear and even before


anything had been said and he made his opening statement, you got a


sense this was a seminal moment for not only Martin McGuinness but also


his family. This wasn't going to be an ordinary interview. He didn't use


the word retire, he still wants to play some role in public life


afterwards, it was clear from what he said that this was really the end


of an error and it was evident then in the emotion we've seen him that


she would near his home in the Bogside at that little gathering


this evening. -- era. The kind of emotion he was holding within


himself I was conducting that interview. Thanks very much indeed.


With me now are the DUP's Ian Paisley and Sinn


You must have known this day was fast approaching,


but was it still difficult to take in when it was confirmed


Yes, obviously personally I am very sad. He's been a good friend and


mentor of mine for almost 30 years. I have learnt a huge amount from


him. It is the huge hole which has been recruited in the middle of our


organisation. He will still be there for us. In terms of the role he has


played over recent years in both leading the Sinn Fein operation in


the north but also across Ireland, his contribution to the peace


process, to reconciliation and the drive that he brought in to that,


the patience and determination and the fact that you not only


challenged himself that other Republicans and people right across


society in what reconciliation looks like, his relationship with Ian's


father. They were derided for the friendship that they had by people.


People would like to see if he chuckles around Stormont at the


moment. He has been a huge figure in the peace process here and his


retirement is a very, very sad day not just for Sinn Fein but politics


generally across Ireland. Your father, against all


expectations, formed a close First of all, I'm going to wish


Martin McGuinness well in his retirement. I hope that he has time


to get over his health issues and to enjoy a time of retirement with his


wife and family. Any politician knows the importance of that and the


ability to be able to enjoy that. Thank you is the second thing going


to say. It's important we reflect on the fact that we would not be where


we are in Northern Ireland in terms of having stability, peace and the


opportunity to rebuild our country it hadn't been for the work that he


did Putin, especially with my father, the beginning of this long


journey. I'm going to acknowledge the fact that perhaps if we got back


to that foundation work of building a proper relationship and


recognising what partnership actually means, we can get rid of


the mess we are in. You have no difficulty as a Unionist here


tonight seeing you warmly applaud his contribution, particularly in


recent years. Do you think there are other Unionists who don't really


appreciate that and don't really understand it? I do not believe it


is necessary for Ian Paisley Iranian Unionist to qualify every comment


with the fact that eight, I'm a Protestant, it's different to the


Catholic decide me, I'm a Unionist and a Loyalist and I think something


different to the Nationalist republican beside me. Can we please


get over that? We as political leaders have to demonstrate by our


actions and words and our top that we are over that. The sooner we do


that then me saying thank you to I'm diametrically opposed to an ancient


have to say that I'm opposed to, it's obvious. I can say thank you


them honestly and humbly and recognise the remarkable journey


that Martin McGuinness went on has not only save lives but has made the


lives of countless people in Northern Ireland better because of


the partnership Government that we worked on and up it together. That


is important and it's important that I see it. It is interesting that you


say it. It is honest. I'm glad you point that out. The reason I put the


question the way I put the question is because not every DUP


representative I would be having this conversation with who would


express views in the way you'd express them. It is very significant


you're seeing what you're saying. As politicians we have to be more


honest. Otherwise the sort of crisis were in at the moment will become a


normal feature of Northern Ireland political life and the fact of the


matter is the chuckle Brothers, as it was derided, is actually


something for people to look back on and see if we had that type of


relationship, some of the problems to do with reconciliation that


Martin McGuinness has chided and scolded and some of the issues that


we tidied and scolded Sinn Fein about, those issues would not be as


difficult to deal with. They will still be there. What do you think


then is your message to those members of the DUP watching this


choking on their horror lurks? Thinking, steady on, Ian, let's not


over do it here. We remember him from the past and we find it


difficult to forget that in the circumstances.


It will not put our country back together again. We have a


responsibility as political leaders to put this back together again and


the sooner more of us are honest about this, the better. I don't


expect Martin McGuinness or anyone to deny who or what they are or what


has happened in the past. If they did it just to make it easier for


me, it would not be honest. What is your response to that? Are you


surprised? No, I am not because I know that Martin will do good


relationship with many unionists and the Paisley family. I am not


surprised that they now at a personal level his commitment to


reconciliation. I am is that Ian is honest enough to say that. I know


that let down by both governments -- Martin felt let down. We needed to


see more generosity and the spirit of reconciliation and genuine


power-sharing and we were not getting that. And then obviously the


RHI scandal developed and was being investigated. These issues were


flagged up and I think we are looking for not a new agreement but


genuine partnership and adherence to principles of the Good Friday


Agreement. Ian Paisley, what do you say, in response to the interesting


question about the current leadership of the DUP and its


approach to Sinn Fein and how it dealt with Martin McGuinness and the


way the party had those Russian jets under your father. Martin McGuinness


said he asked Arlene Foster to cooperate with him. Do you think the


current DUP leadership has gone off the rails? I am always honest with


you. If people do not learn lessons from what we do politically then we


are destined to repeat mistakes. Lessons that are learnt from the


present time so mistakes are not repeated. Has Arlene Foster got it


wrong? I will say it very plainly that there are lessons to be learned


on all sides of this to make sure we get... Including an the DUP


leadership? There are lessons to be learned on all sides and we must


learn them or we will keep on repeating these mistakes. Thankfully


the mistakes which have been made at the present time are not the


mistakes of atrocity but of policy and politics and by politicians and


I hope that the craft of politics now improves and the short learning


curve people are an on all sides of the organisation starts to learn


more. Let's bring in our Political Editor,


Mark Devenport, who spoke to Martin McGuinness this afternoon,


and in our Foyle studio is Denis Bradley, the former


Vice-chair of the Policing Board and author of the Eames-Bradley


Report on the past, who's known You can't have been surprised


at today's development? That does not surprise me but I'm


glad to hear that warmth in the public statement and I think he is


right that we need to get some of that warmth more often than we do.


There will be people, and we spoke earlier on today, who are Unionists


and nationalists and you will know them in your home city who will


still struggle to forgive Martin McGuinness and forget his


involvement 30 and 40 years ago. I am quite sure that is true. Martin


and I come from the same part of Ireland, or at least our people do,


and none of us were born with a spoon in our mouth and Marton like


myself was an ordinary youngster, better looking than I was, mind you,


but he was born into a very specific area and also a time within Irish


history. As thousands of other youngsters were. You have used the


word is a remarkable journey and it was one from fast becoming


recognised within the republican movement and the IRA and Sinn Fein


that he had abilities and then using those abilities and determination to


actually bring that same organisation to an end. That is an


enormous contribution to this island, to all the people. I will


just say this, he used people like me and maybe specifically me at


times, to actually save lives. I know there were alive is taken and


many people hurt but he actually, where he could intervene and where


he could use people like me to actually stop something happening or


save somebody's life or make sure somebody wasn't killed then he did


that and he did it often. So in some ways the peace side of him was


always there and it developed and I think that is part of the remarkable


journey. I think those people who are hurting because of the IRA need


also to know that a lot of us were caught up in those times, in those


dynamics, and if they had not been there and history had not been so


cruel then perhaps we might have been better friends. What do you


make of the warmth of the tribute paid by Ian Paisley to Martin


McGuinness tonight and I wonder if you might have a stab at decoding


his comments about the current DUP leadership needing to learn the


lessons of the past? Understandable because Martin McGuinness built this


report with Ian Paisley's father and that is remembered by the rest of


the Paisley family. It is clear we could have other people from the DUP


here tonight and they would not repeat those comments so it is not


necessarily the sentiment of the whole party. I think obviously Ian


is indicating that you need not just the cool and businesslike demeanour


of more recent years but to build a bit of report to overcome


difficulties and it did strike me as I was listening that sometimes


people have said once the Troubles generation is gone then things will


somehow become easier but it is not just that generation that poses a


potential obstacle but you do need some of the personal gifts that


Martin McGuinness used so much particularly in the latter of his


career so we talk of having a long shopping list of demands and how


difficult it was, it is never going to be quite as difficult as it was,


we hope, as it was in the 90s but Martin McGuinness demonstrated


bridge building skills, undoubtedly, and we will still need that in the


future, whatever obstacles we are trying to surmount. Martin


McGuinness said in the interview this afternoon that the announcement


about his successor will be known next week and he says it will


inspire people. Do you know who that is? It will be announced next week.


The party is having discussions and making arrangements but one


announcement today is plenty. Today we are dealing with Martin's


resignation. There is business to be dealt with on Monday in the Assembly


as well and we will come to that in the fullness of time. You talking to


the new leader of Sinn Fein? You are not. The leader is Gerry Adams. The


leader in the North is regarded as Martin McGuinness. You have just


said it is not you. It is not. The replacement is yet to be decided and


that will be announced next week. Would you be an inspiring choice? It


depends on people's view. I'm not sure! A lot of people are suggesting


on social media are suggesting you will be named as the next leader.


The party will decide and it will be announced next week. I am surprised


that you say it is yet to be decided because of Martin McGuinness said he


had the fullest confidence in this person. He said in the leadership


that will be announced. We are a party in transition and Gerry and


Marton... There is a new leadership emerging and the people who will be


at the point of that, the head of that in terms of the North, will be


announced. The DUP has a woman in the leadership role. There is talk


that Sinn Fein might want to mirror that by putting Michelle O'Neill


there. Entirely possible. If you were a betting man? I have no vices


whatsoever. You will have to wait till next week. A lot of people are


suggesting on social media that Ian Paisley is in with a shout as the


next leader of Sinn Fein after your comments tonight. Oh, sorry, the


DUP. It doesn't matter who I want as the leader of Sinn Fein but what


they're skills are. Skills that will include building a relationship to


move the executive forward. That is where the lessons learned from the


last number of weeks about how we try to create that Russian ship are


important because they need political craft and -- relationship.


They need political craft. Arlene Foster has your full support as


leader? Yes. What would happen for that to change? For her to retire.


And that would be her decision. Do you think that is imminent with the


way the RHI thing has been handled? I have seen much adjusted to Connor


and I almost felt sorry for him for a moment. I think a lot of people


are saying that after what you were saying today it would like a pitch


for leadership of your party. Are you positioning yourself in case


Arlene Foster does not make it to them? -- until autumn. Are you going


for director-general of the BBC? I don't think that position is


available. Exactly it is an irrelevant question. Who needs to


take over Sinn Fein? Someone without military involvement or a background


in IRA? That is happening anyway. Time is passing and none of us are


getting any younger who have been around in the 70s and 80s and I


think that new generation is taking over. I'm not too sure the


leadership of Sinn Fein is a vital issue. Connor referred to the fact


that Martin had said he was disappointed and two governments in


the last period of time. I would also echo that, that I would be


disappointed at the distance the government has kept even when they


tell us that they were there and they were up and down, foreign


affairs are there, British government are there, they are


keeping a watching rather than acting brief and I think next time


we would need the involvement of both governments to bring this


about. There is a growing danger that the institutions will not be


re-established again. We will leave that there are.


On last week's programme the Communities Minister,


Paul Givan, made comments about the Finucane family


during a discussion about the Renewable Heat Incentive scheme.


We have been asked by the Finucane family to clarify


that it has no position on the Renewable Heat


Mr Givan went on to make reference to Sinn Fein advancing


The Finucane family has asked us to make it clear


that it does not support, or form part of, any


The BBC regrets any distress caused to the Finucane family by those


Now, we've become used to at least one politcal story every day,


and today didn't disappoint with the news of that public inquiry


-- that we were hoping to talk about but didn't quite get onto any detail


of. In a moment we'll hear


from the three opposition parties, There are shortcomings, for example


ministerial interference and I pledge I will not interfere in this


inquiry. Another shortcoming is that it is delivered to the minister so I


make a pledge on Battle of Sinn Fein and myself that we will ensure any


report that is delivered was directed the public. Set the


shortcomings aside. Time is short. Any investigation or inquiry would


have to go to the Assembly next week. The only route possible is a


public inquiry and I have chosen that and I think the public welcome


mat. They understand politicians fight their corner but there comes a


time to make a decision. We welcome the change of heart from Sinn Fein


in setting up this public inquiry. It is something I have been wanting


for some considerable time. I think it was mid December when I said we


wanted to take place. Earlier this week I wrote to the other parties


and indeed Sinn Fein, suggesting a way forward but now I am very


pleased that the inquiry is come to be set up and that finally we will


get some due process in and around these matters and we will get to the


truth about what happened in relation to the RHI scheme. As was


confirmed yesterday in the committee I have absolutely nothing to hide.


Joining me now are Nichola Mallon from the SDLP and Stephen Farry


I do want to talk to you about RHI but I can't not talk to you about


the retirement of Martin McGuinness. Extraordinary comments from Ian


Paisley about the significance of Martin McGuinness's role. Philip,


forgive me for saying, they are in stark contrast to the tribute paid


by the -- your party leader this evening. Do you accept that? I wish


Martin McGuinness well in his retirement and I hope he has a


recovery from his illness. Undoubtedly, he has been on a


journey from IRA commander and meeting the Queen, it's just a pity


that as the leader of an organisation that made short the


journey of many hundreds if not thousands of victims with their


futile terrorist campaign that he couldn't in his words tonight


actually expressed regret for the many victims that his organisation


created. His past was more important than his present? He has been on a


journey and I recognise that but we cannot forget the past and many


hundreds if not thousands of victims. Undoubtedly, Martin has


underwent a huge transformation and a very big political and personal


journey. The true sign of leadership is having the courage to lead,


bringing people with you and reach out to those who have been hurt.


Martin has demonstrated he has all those qualities. The big challenge


now is for those who are to step into his shoes. That type of


leadership is needed now more than ever. Your thoughts on it. You have


no difficulty paying tribute to him but how do you strike the balance


can be constructive role and his past? I wished him well on Monday in


the assembly. He is a leader and has travelled a very long distance and


particularly his relationship with Ian Paisley was important and it


shows that leadership has to be based not on just institutions but


on mutual respect and trust. At the same time, this is the bigger issue


than Martin McGuinness stepping down. There are some deep divisions


between the parties, problems with the structures. He is going to be a


very difficult act to follow in terms of what comes next. Let's talk


about our each eye, that's what you are here to discuss. Under any other


circumstances, do the programme would have been directed towards


RHI. Were going to get more details in the assembly next week on the


Finance Minister's public enquiry. It looks like you're getting what


you want in terms of the public enquiries. Have Sinn Fein managed to


outmanoeuvre or all of the parties by doing what they've done today? We


sought to significant U-turns today, one from Sinn Fein and the DUP. Sinn


Fein's U-turn was on the public enquiry. I was on the radio this


morning and he was adamant there wasn't going to be a public enquiry


and by early evening we've had someone saying the exact opposite.


It's what you wanted. They may have come late to the party as far as


you're concerned but never last Sinn Fein is doing what you wanted it to


do. We will wait to see the detail of it next week from the statement


to the assembly. I would have preferred the Secretary of State to


have been leading on it and I hope whatever he proposes, there will be


a preliminary report before action. Doesn't actually matter? You say


you'd prefer the Secretary of State to be leading on it. It is going to


be led by a judge, hopefully appointed by the Lord Chief Justice.


That's what we want to see. That's what's happening. The Lord Chief


Justice is happening. He was bitterly terms of residence


together? More of that next week. A smart move by Sinn Fein. There has


been flip-flopping in recent weeks, Declan made the case this morning on


BBC radio Ulster in addition to be a public enquiry and then by tea-time


there has been a U-turn. The point is it's happening. It is finally


happening. The gathering by Sinn Fein over the past 30 days has cost


the taxpayer two point three ?5 million. It is cause them a lot of


money for every day the debt owed. This scandal didn't just come on


Sinn Fein's horizon when the BBC ran the Spotlight programme. The me


about it in February and it cost ?20 million, that we have been


consistently Colin the three parties very public enquiry and finally a


significant cost to the taxpayer, it Sinn Fein are done the right thing.


That is to be welcomed. There can be no political interference in this.


The appointee must be on the recommendation of the Lord Chief


Justice and the report must be published up its immediate


completion. We are very clear... March movie and has said it will


happen. It would have been much better if Sinn Fein is keen to this


position earlier on because it wouldn't have done the damage that


it has done and it would have done the damage has done to the public


purse. James Brokenshire Shire said the announcement is important to the


confidence in the ability of the institutions to deliver and help set


the tone for the election to come. Do you agree? Misses commentary from


the sidelines in the Secretary of State who could have called this


public enquiry several weeks ago in line with some of the warnings we


were given. Does it matter? The point is it's happening. I welcome


the fact were having it but I angry and frustrated. This could have


happened many weeks ago. In that interval we have seen our political


institutions collapse. It is uncertain if they are going to be


restored. We have a very long potential gap between restoration.


The establishment of a public enquiry would have saved the


institution. You can reasonably say the blockage around the RHI scandal


was the final straw and there were structural problems


behind-the-scenes, tension is building up over Brexit. This was


the straw that broke the camel's back. If this had beaten to -- that


plays much earlier, we wouldn't have had a situation where we don't have


a budget, no plans in terms of Brexit. There is a real pain down


the tracks for the fact we don't have the Government in Northern


Ireland and no one is going to be arraigned for several months taking


decisions and that could have been avoided. Simon Hamilton has said he


is publishing the names at the recipients of the RHI scheme next


Wednesday. Do you welcome mat? Absolutely, if he is filled his


promise. Are you clear of what that means? Not in terms of what he is


promising to do. Arlene Foster has promised a public enquiry in other


proposals that never actually came for it. We will wait and see what


comes forward. I mentioned earlier to U-turns. The DUP this special


advisers, one has no stood aside and one has resigned from their post


after saying there was nothing to see here. They both maintain that


position? Why has he resigned? He's become a distraction is the


explanation. We are seeing bureaucracy within the DUP. The


power they seem to have within other organisations. I just wonder who is


making the decisions. Is it elected politicians are special advisers?


That is something that will come out of this public enquiry. Is the


publication significant? It is very important we get the heart of who


has benefited -- benefit from this scheme. We need also remember there


is a number of organisations and businesses that Anfield this scheme


in the right way, there were those that abused it. We mustn't allow to


happen is for companies and visitors who have done no wrong because they


legitimately appealed the scheme to be used as scapegoats. Was there any


evidence that would be the case? It is something we have to be concerned


about. There is a mudslinging campaign or people are accused of


doing things wrong with that they haven't. There are people within the


political system that had done things wrong. You can't say you want


to protect these businesses who have quite legitimately taken out an


investment through the RHI scheme and at the same time complain about


losing ?85,000 a day and ?20 million a year. It's got to be one or the


other. It's not about the protection of farms. It's finding out who


benefit. We are finding out who abuse the scheme and who were in


positions of authority, what they knew, when they knew it and what


they did did not do to try to it. VDU PR Bisley has its bad troubles.


Maybe Arlene Foster can have a spring in her step in the end of the


week now that the permanent secretary has said there was no


evidence of any wrongdoing on her part that he could see. He as a


civil servant is not going to challenge her. He gave a very


straight and serve. It was following the advice of the civil servant.


Ministers are there to set the policy and scrutinise what's coming


forward from their officials. I would also stressed that special


advisers act solely on behalf of ministers. The are fully accountable


for the action of his special adviser whether the actions are


authorised not. If special advisers are involved in the actions, the


ministers do have to be accountable. No doubt that is something the


enquiry will look at in considerable detail. Thank you all very much.


And joining me now in Commentators' Corner are Newton Emerson


That alter course. In a direction I didn't necessarily anticipate. --


that all took off. What you make of the tribute Ian Paisley me to Martin


McGuinness tonight? His father's enemy and latter-day friend? You


could say it was extraordinary, it's show stopping. It properly did make


people take a second look and think did I really hear that? He is in the


spirit that we need more generosity, more compassion. What he has said


does not in any way diminish his Unionist credentials, he still


supports the union but he is able to see that Martin McGuinness was a


peacemaker, that he pushed the boundaries and I thought it was


interesting that he said because of Martin McGuinness people alive today


that otherwise wouldn't have been. He didn't focus on the negative, he


could have. What is fascinating, if you took a random sample of 50


members of the DUP and put them in that seat, how many of them would


say anything close to what he said? Almost none. Ian Paisley is not in


the leadership of the DUP so a remark like this can only be aimed


at the leadership of the DUP. A to think that was a formidable pitch


for the leadership of the future. In my view, he is very clearly and


correctly judged what has gone wrong which is very much the style and


tone of the present leadership. It explains an absurd extent,


everything that has gone wrong at the moment. We did see signs today


that Arlene Foster is beginning to... Was that a thinly veiled


criticism of the leadership of Arlene Foster? It was very fierce!


And being diplomatic. She is down and he has given her a kicking. You


seriously think as much as that? He was basically saying what we are


missing here is the ability to build relationships, to be pragmatic, to


be progressive. Which isn't to say you should welcome an amazing


demonstration of what it all like that can achieve. It was a very


assertive to Arlene Foster. All focused on the person of Martin


McGuinness. Ian Paisley throws no punches on other issues when the


notion takes them. He's also saying the politics of Northern Ireland are


at risk here and he is recognising the danger that if we don't sort


this out, we are looking into a very precarious future. In that sense, he


is... Although there are many tears not shared Martin McGuinness inside


the DUP at the note you will be difficult to replace. The are not


concerned about more assertive Sinn Fein but we don't think the talent


is there. That has an interesting point. Conor Murphy was very cagey


about whether he is going to be taking over from Martin McGuinness.


After what he said, you would properly think not. Martin


McGuinness suggesting he's going to be an inspirational choice. I


thought a head towards Michelle O'Neill? In recent days, the mood


has been moving towards Michelle O'Neill. She has been described as


their senior minister and of good money, the betting money on her. She


is clearly up for the replacement. Maybe we will know this time next


week. Thank you. That's it from The View


for this week. Join me for Sunday Politics


at 11.35 here on BBC One. So, from tomorrow we will have a new


man in the top job across the pond. But let's not forget


the guy that's leaving. He and his family have given us


some memorable moments. Donald Trump, tweeting out insults


to Angela Merkel?! This gives the Internet one last


chance to talk about our bromance. I have two more words to say. Obama


out. With visitors to


Northern Ireland on the rise,


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