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On The View tonight: instalment ready for the unofficial | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
opposition? One former minister thinks so. I would personally | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
believe the best thing faster do would be to pull out and be free to | :00:56. | :01:04. | |
be a real opposition. And the professors are with us this | :01:04. | :01:10. | |
evening. And you can, of course, follow the | :01:10. | :01:20. | |
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Voters will go to the polls to elect a new MP. They have four | :01:23. | :01:33. | |
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candidates to choose from. With the seven days to go, it seemed like | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
the right time to get an insight into the campaign by inviting them | :01:38. | :01:48. | |
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ought to take part in a pre- election debate. The production | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
team did invite all four candidates in. They thought they were making | :01:55. | :02:02. | |
good progress. By the end of yesterday, they had agreement from | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
three of the candidates. We were still waiting to hear from the | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
Unionist unity candidate. Late this morning, Nigel and his camp got in | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
touch and declined the invitation. They said, it is a short campaign. | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
Nigel is concentrating his efforts on canvassing in the constituency. | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
They decided not to bring him in. This triggered a response because | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
we had to inform the other parties, and Sinn Fein said they had agreed | :02:35. | :02:42. | |
to a debate which included four candidates. If it didn't, they | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
would pull their us out. Are you surprised that Nigel did not take | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
the opportunity to make his case on TV? Were on the face of it, it | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
looks surprising. When it came up that they had selected this unity | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
candidate, it caused the resignation of two asked the | :03:05. | :03:15. | |
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Unionist MLAs. When he handed in his nomination papers, one might | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
have expected a vigorous campaign. That said, I have been hearing from | :03:21. | :03:31. | |
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journalists and colleagues that they found him quite allusive, he | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
has been out canvassing, but people have found hard to pin him down. | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
May be, within that context, it is not so surprising. What of the | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
others? You sometimes get this with election debates. If someone thinks | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
they are the frontrunner, they wonder whether they need to get | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
into a debate with the other candidates. Have they got | :03:58. | :04:08. | |
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potentially more to lose than when? In may be that that was the kind of | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
calculation they were making, although, Sinn Fein have said to | :04:15. | :04:23. | |
ask that they had agreed only all four should be there. | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
candidates have chosen not to take part in tonight's discussion. Let | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
us talk about two important issue in this campaign with the two | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
candidates to are with us. You have been out and about, campaigning on | :04:39. | :04:46. | |
the streets. The economy, I imagine, is uppermost in people's minds. All | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
can you do to improve people's economic circumstances? I find it | :04:53. | :04:59. | |
truly bizarre that two candidates, aspiring to run for a Westminster | :04:59. | :05:08. | |
election, just don't show up here. I have never heard of abstention is | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
campaigns and! People are saying to me, they find it very strange that | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
candidates are shirking their responsibilities to put their views | :05:15. | :05:23. | |
and policies before the electorate. In the meantime, they would say | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
that they are out campaigning, tried to get as many votes as they | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
can. Let us talk about what people are discussing when you knock doors. | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
Is that the economy? Absolutely. I have been canvassing for eight | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
hours today. Again, the issues coming back at the doors are the | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
future, economy, jobs, particularly for young people, and how | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
politicians can focus their efforts on those priorities. Have you got a | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
real, practical examples of what you think you can deliver for | :05:58. | :06:04. | |
people in Mid Ulster that can make a difference, in very austere | :06:04. | :06:14. | |
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times? Absolutely. What people are saying is that in terms of the | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
economy, small businesses and businesses in general are saying, | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
what about corporation tax? Westminster is the place where | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
corporation can be raised. They also saying to us, people are | :06:28. | :06:35. | |
concerned about the averages of the welfare reform, and the grim tax | :06:35. | :06:43. | |
brought in, changes to housing benefit. We have been campaigning | :06:43. | :06:49. | |
hard on those issues. Likewise, the rural community are concerned about | :06:49. | :06:59. | |
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a Euro-sceptic plot ways, and single farm payments would all go. | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
You are the Alliance candidate. What a people saying to you about | :07:09. | :07:17. | |
the economy? Again, before I start, but I also find this situation | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
rather unusual. There are five main parties in Northern Ireland, and | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
they are only two are represented here tonight. That is an unusual | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
situation. Democracy is all about given the electric a choice, and | :07:32. | :07:39. | |
that has been narrowed dramatically. -- the electorate. What is your | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
view on economic matters, when you talk to people who will be your | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
constituents if you win? Were I am picking up a many worries. People | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
are worried about how they will fill the tank in these freezing | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
February nights, in the long term, how they will find jobs for their | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
children. I met a lady who was devastated that five of her | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
children have had to lipoma, are living abroad, and she is wondering | :08:08. | :08:18. | |
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if she will meet them again. -- have had to leave home. You are | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
running for a Westminster seat. If you were to get elected, you would | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
be a backbench MP with very little authority or power, as far as those | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
local issues in Mid-Ulster are concerned. A in some respects. But | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
big decisions are made in Westminster. Last night, there was | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
a major debate on bedroom tax. MPs were grilling ministers on | :08:49. | :08:57. | |
individual issues. Let us talk about a second issue tonight. A | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
shared future. We have had disharmony on the streets of | :09:03. | :09:10. | |
Northern Ireland. How would you promote a sense of a shared future? | :09:10. | :09:15. | |
People are concerned about the impact on the Flat dispute on the | :09:15. | :09:25. | |
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local economy. -- flag. To offer young people a job is a priority. | :09:32. | :09:39. | |
People want to see a stable future, a future where the accommodation of | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
differences is the key buzz word and put into practice. Bringing | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
respect and building trust will be the linchpin and a cornerstone of | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
any future society for us all. That society which brings this about, | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
attracting a thriving economy. party has not been a bystander on | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
this issue. Some would say it played a pivotal role in what | :10:07. | :10:17. | |
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happened in flying the Union flag. We took a decision. We did nothing | :10:19. | :10:27. | |
different to what the other parties agreed to at Stormont. That is what | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
so -- that is what is so bizarre about it. The very parties that | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
were protesting actually agreed to it in Stormont. Or would you do to | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
promote a better sense of a shared future in Mid-Ulster? What I'm | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
hearing on the doorstep is that although it seems to be down to an | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
orange-green struggle, that is not really what influences people. They | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
do like the method of a shared future, they see there will be | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
greater stability. That is where the future lies, especially for the | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
young people who don't have the same background. How big a | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
challenge is that for Mid-Ulster? A big struggle. But it is not | :11:14. | :11:24. | |
impossible. Reliance standpoint and publicity has been very clear. -- | :11:24. | :11:31. | |
the alliance. A shared future, where we tried to meet each other's | :11:31. | :11:39. | |
aspirations, is there a way forward. A to both of you, this is a big ask | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
for you, in terms of this campaign. Let us take a look at how things | :11:44. | :11:54. | |
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panned out in 2010. Your party got 14%, Sinn Fein got 52%. It is an | :12:02. | :12:10. | |
uphill struggle. Do you accept that? Those are the politics of the | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
past. What we are doing is looking to the future. We want to build a | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
society with stability, the future economy and future jobs for our | :12:21. | :12:31. | |
young people. The SDLP is looking ahead to a brighter future. Finally, | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
can you cast itself as anything other than an Ulster man in this | :12:35. | :12:41. | |
race, because it was 1% to got last and? Is it is an uphill struggle, | :12:41. | :12:47. | |
but I will not cast myself as an Ulster man. Alliance is the cross- | :12:47. | :12:57. | |
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community Party of Northern Ireland, Under BBC guidelines, Mark | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
Devenport, we are obliged to represent the views of the other | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
party. Francie Molloy has expressed his concern about the economic | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
situation, about scores of families he says he knows off where people | :13:20. | :13:28. | |
have had to leave Mid-Ulster. He is concerned about the loss of skills. | :13:28. | :13:37. | |
One of the ideas he suggests to address these problems is to get | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
support for farmers, and Engineering Training Centre. He | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
says he will campaign to bring jobs and investment, he will lobby for | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
farmers, and a large part of his literature is about the fact that | :13:51. | :13:59. | |
he won't be abstention list. He will be in Westminster when | :13:59. | :14:05. | |
important votes are taking place. And what about the views of a | :14:05. | :14:12. | |
shared future? Certainly flags feature in both lots of literature. | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
Francie Molloy told the News Letter that he wants to allay their fears | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
and build reconciliation. He defended the decision taken by | :14:22. | :14:31. | |
Belfast City Council, the two was a democratic decision and people | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
should respect that. Nigel Lutton said that elections could have | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
consequences within well -- Belfast, and one of the consequences was the | :14:39. | :14:46. | |
removal of the Union flag. But he does say that he will support | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
people regardless of their background if he emerges from the | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
Victor -- from the selection as the victor. And polling day is next | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
Thursday, so potentially, we have an interesting week ahead. Could be. | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
You never know. Maybe somebody else will be able to have captured the | :15:05. | :15:13. | |
attention. Maybe somebody will be able to bring all of the candidates | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
together. Our correspondents will be following them closely. They | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
absolutely world. I should just point out that you can find the | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
full details of the four candidates running in Mid-Ulster on our | :15:28. | :15:37. | |
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Still to come on The View: Could Basil McCrea's as yet unnamed | :15:43. | :15:51. | |
Unionist Party learned from down The Former SDLP Minister Brid | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
Rogers has told this programme that her party should leave the | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
Executive because it is not doing enough to bring people together. | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
She says the SDLP should become part of the Opposition. Her | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
comments come as a Westminster committee has begun examining how | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
an official opposition could work here. Here's our political reporter | :16:07. | :16:17. | |
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Stephen Walker. THE SPEAKER: Order! Border! Has he | :16:20. | :16:30. | |
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got a clue what he would do? Speaker, he has had... The clue is | :16:30. | :16:38. | |
in the title - Prime Minister's Questions. It is a weekly affair, | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
often generating more heat than light, but at least Prime | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
Minister's questions give the voters an indication of what | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
Parliamentary politics is like. To Government defends its position was | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
the abolition seeks to challenge it. The dividing lines are clear. | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
Darren essentially two narratives - one from the Government and one | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
from the opposition. So is it time the Stormont following suit? | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
This week, the Northern Ireland affairs committee came to Stormont | :17:09. | :17:15. | |
to examine that very issue of opposition. What we have here is a | :17:15. | :17:22. | |
blot on the democratic landscape. You expect in North Korea but not | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
in Northern Ireland that he would be banned from having an opposition, | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
and it is shameful. The creation of an official opposition of Stormont | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
would require legislation. The Government in London a examining | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
the political structures here, but say the idea of an opposition isn't | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
on the agenda because there is no political consensus. A position | :17:43. | :17:51. | |
that cut little ice with campaigners for change. Opposition | :17:51. | :17:57. | |
isn't about wrecking Stormont. It is about having a viable, credible | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
alternative structure that holds the Government to account. The UUP | :18:03. | :18:09. | |
and the SDLP insists that they can hold the two parties to account by | :18:09. | :18:16. | |
staying within the Executive. As Agriculture Minister breed Rogers | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
sat round the Executive table, contrary to party policy, she | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
thinks the SDLP's sole Minister should leave the Executive. He is | :18:27. | :18:33. | |
doing a good job, but I think the SDLP should think about pulling out | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
of the Executive, particularly as the Executive has not moved on | :18:39. | :18:44. | |
integration at all. They have neither a policy Nora strategy. | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
you think the SDLP should come out? I do, because they are not | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
fulfilling the function they were meant to fulfil, which was to bring | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
the people of Northern Ireland together to have a policy for that | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
and a strategy for that, and they have neither. And I think for one | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
estimate to turn that around is simply impossible. So you think the | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
party should pull out? A think we would be better to be in real | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
opposition. I don't think it would be an official opposition, but it | :19:14. | :19:20. | |
would give us the freedom to become in a sense a real opposition. | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
First Minister, Peter Robinson, favours the creation of an | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
opposition, but he says there is already an unofficial one in place. | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
We have run a very strong opposition. We have a well-informed | :19:32. | :19:41. | |
opposition. The two smaller parties have tended to act as if they were | :19:41. | :19:51. | |
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an opposition, so we have Ministers in opposition as part of our system. | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
The DUP and the UUP favour an opposition, as do the Alliance | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
Party. Sinn Fein have concerns, and insist that the principles of the | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
Good Friday Agreement are protected. That could greater scrutiny be | :20:05. | :20:11. | |
achieved without diluting the concept of power sharing? You can | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
look at the issue of opposition and Stormont in a way that doesn't | :20:14. | :20:19. | |
necessarily mean you have to up start looking at either Good Friday | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
Agreement or the St Andrews Agreement. So rather than adopting | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
the full Westminster model of opposition, could other practices | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
that I used in London be implemented at Stormont? In the | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
Public Accounts Committee, the chair of that committee is always | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
taken up by the Leader of the Opposition, the main opposition | :20:37. | :20:43. | |
party. That might be one thing to look at, to look at the way that | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
the chairs of the difference select committees are allocated. But one | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
thing to do might be to think about opposition in that broader sense, | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
and to use a committee like the public accounts committee to allow | :20:57. | :21:03. | |
one of those smaller parties to take on an influential role. | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
change is unlikely to satisfy those calling for the creation of four | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
opposition. Basil McCrea and John McCallister have made that a | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
central piece of their new party, and there is talk of a Private | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
Member's Bill. But change can only come if there is a consensus, and | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
at Stormont, that is in short supply. | :21:24. | :21:32. | |
Stephen Walker supporting -- reporting. Deidre Heenan and Rick | :21:32. | :21:42. | |
Welford are here to talk about this. Rick, is the proposal a runner? | :21:42. | :21:51. | |
is. She is one of a growing chorus of voices calling for an opposition. | :21:51. | :21:57. | |
The committee is looking at the provision of an official opposition | :21:57. | :22:05. | |
as one of a number of potential reforms. It is easy enough to say, | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
go into opposition, but there is no formal provision for it. They would | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
need speaking rights. They would need committee places. They would | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
need, among other things, the capacity to bring about a vote of | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
no confidence in the actual Executive. There isn't provision | :22:22. | :22:29. | |
for any of those things. Nor indeed for supply days when opposition | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
parties can determine the topic for debate. So if you're going to be | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
part of the chorus who want the opposition, you need to look at | :22:36. | :22:41. | |
what we need to provide, and provide some finance to fund an | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
official opposition, which might not go down well with the Electra - | :22:46. | :22:56. | |
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- electorate. His is an argument worth making? I take Rick's., but | :22:56. | :23:03. | |
use 15 years since the Good Friday Agreement. -- I take Rick's point. | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
Trying to get policy through now seems to be impossible, and we have | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
a bizarre situation where you have Ministers and government putting | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
forward one idea and then the next day criticising at their colleagues | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
who are also in government. It seems strange that they are leaning | :23:21. | :23:30. | |
between two policy ideas. As think it is important that we say, we | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
have and in again, out again government, and they think it is | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
important to say, here is the Government, here is the opposition, | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
and it could be a sign of political maturity to say, the Friday | :23:44. | :23:52. | |
Agreement work, or is it time to move on? Rick, let's talk about | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
Mid-Ulster. A week to polling. We had a television debate tonight. | :23:56. | :24:04. | |
Tea Party candidates here, two candidates missing. Half the | :24:05. | :24:12. | |
debate! Were you surprised that the two parties who didn't come were | :24:12. | :24:18. | |
missing? It is extraordinary, not least because in this circumstance | :24:18. | :24:25. | |
you have a candidate in the shape of Nigel Lutton who is a unionist | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
unity candidate, and it is presented as being such a signal | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
moment in the development of unity, that people would actually sees the | :24:34. | :24:40. | |
opportunity to make that pitch for Unionist unity, particularly given | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
the nature of one of his key opponents, the other no show | :24:45. | :24:55. | |
tonight, Francie Molloy. You seeking here, you seek him there. | :24:55. | :25:00. | |
They are like the Pimpernel. Thank you, let's move on to another | :25:00. | :25:06. | |
subject. Earlier this week, Basil McCrea and John McCallister scotch | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
any speculation that they would join another existing party by | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
announcing plans to form their own. The pair said they new party will | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
be confident, progressive and pro- union. One thing they don't have, | :25:17. | :25:24. | |
though, is a name. We went out onto the streets to ask if the name it | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
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It is very hard to make that call until you know what the name is. I | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
appreciate the ambitions of the party, and they think they will | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
have a wide appeal. But time will tell in terms of what Nene come up | :25:42. | :25:49. | |
with. There is only one name her that they want to come up with. | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
you have the right personalities, you would go to them. I don't think | :25:53. | :25:59. | |
it would matter what banner they go under. It would have to be | :25:59. | :26:09. | |
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something significant, rather than just the same old. You would get | :26:10. | :26:17. | |
mixed up. You really do, there is an awful lot of them. The name | :26:17. | :26:24. | |
would and and her -- wouldn't entice me. It is the politicians to | :26:24. | :26:32. | |
have to change. And Australia, you have a family party at the sex | :26:32. | :26:42. | |
party. And yes, before you ask, it does exist, and it got 8% in the | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
state election in Victoria last year, although it might be a while | :26:45. | :26:53. | |
before the arrears a similar party here, and less Basil and John | :26:53. | :27:03. | |
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gopher that name! -- and Les Basil We took a poll here, and | :27:10. | :27:19. | |
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suggestions were at the Labour Deans,. The debate has kept us all | :27:20. | :27:28. | |
glued to the television, and if you don't mind me saying the fact that | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
Lord Rennard appears to have been somewhat liberal with his | :27:31. | :27:39. | |
intentions. That is the allegation. He denies it. But it has very | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
quickly become a story about Nick Clegg's leadership or lack of it, | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
and it has been interesting how much the spotlight has turned to | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
him, and his female party colleagues have not, to support him, | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
so that says a lot. It right, your story of the week? The riff-raff | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
man, Boris Johnson, and his attempt to speak to the Greater London | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
Assembly. Do we have a Kip? Wishes to be exchanging question. Classic | :28:10. | :28:20. | |
Boris. Are you saying they haven't the guts to put questions to me it? | :28:20. | :28:29. | |
Great, supine critter plasmid invertebrate jellies. Great quote. | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
You don't hear anything like that up at Stormont. We are more | :28:34. | :28:41. | |
monosyllabic here. He is a wordsmith. But he did meet his | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
comeuppance that day, because he was in effect voted off the | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
platform by a coalition of Liberal Democrats, Labour and green | :28:49. | :28:57. | |
candidates representing the GLA. Twit of the week? Chris Bryant. Did | :28:57. | :29:05. | |
I miss something? Wasn't the whole point off Osborne's economics to | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
point off Osborne's economics to keep the triple-A rating? The Tory | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
MEP on the Italian election - a surprising number of Italians have | :29:14. | :29:24. | |
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voted for a comedian. The comedian to whom it he is furring is | :29:25. | :29:34. |