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On The View tonight: instalment ready for the unofficial

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opposition? One former minister thinks so. I would personally

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believe the best thing faster do would be to pull out and be free to

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be a real opposition. And the professors are with us this

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evening. And you can, of course, follow the

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Voters will go to the polls to elect a new MP. They have four

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candidates to choose from. With the seven days to go, it seemed like

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the right time to get an insight into the campaign by inviting them

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ought to take part in a pre- election debate. The production

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team did invite all four candidates in. They thought they were making

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good progress. By the end of yesterday, they had agreement from

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three of the candidates. We were still waiting to hear from the

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Unionist unity candidate. Late this morning, Nigel and his camp got in

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touch and declined the invitation. They said, it is a short campaign.

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Nigel is concentrating his efforts on canvassing in the constituency.

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They decided not to bring him in. This triggered a response because

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we had to inform the other parties, and Sinn Fein said they had agreed

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to a debate which included four candidates. If it didn't, they

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would pull their us out. Are you surprised that Nigel did not take

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the opportunity to make his case on TV? Were on the face of it, it

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looks surprising. When it came up that they had selected this unity

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candidate, it caused the resignation of two asked the

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Unionist MLAs. When he handed in his nomination papers, one might

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have expected a vigorous campaign. That said, I have been hearing from

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journalists and colleagues that they found him quite allusive, he

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has been out canvassing, but people have found hard to pin him down.

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May be, within that context, it is not so surprising. What of the

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others? You sometimes get this with election debates. If someone thinks

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they are the frontrunner, they wonder whether they need to get

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into a debate with the other candidates. Have they got

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potentially more to lose than when? In may be that that was the kind of

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calculation they were making, although, Sinn Fein have said to

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ask that they had agreed only all four should be there.

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candidates have chosen not to take part in tonight's discussion. Let

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us talk about two important issue in this campaign with the two

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candidates to are with us. You have been out and about, campaigning on

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the streets. The economy, I imagine, is uppermost in people's minds. All

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can you do to improve people's economic circumstances? I find it

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truly bizarre that two candidates, aspiring to run for a Westminster

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election, just don't show up here. I have never heard of abstention is

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campaigns and! People are saying to me, they find it very strange that

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candidates are shirking their responsibilities to put their views

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and policies before the electorate. In the meantime, they would say

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that they are out campaigning, tried to get as many votes as they

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can. Let us talk about what people are discussing when you knock doors.

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Is that the economy? Absolutely. I have been canvassing for eight

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hours today. Again, the issues coming back at the doors are the

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future, economy, jobs, particularly for young people, and how

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politicians can focus their efforts on those priorities. Have you got a

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real, practical examples of what you think you can deliver for

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people in Mid Ulster that can make a difference, in very austere

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times? Absolutely. What people are saying is that in terms of the

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economy, small businesses and businesses in general are saying,

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what about corporation tax? Westminster is the place where

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corporation can be raised. They also saying to us, people are

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concerned about the averages of the welfare reform, and the grim tax

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brought in, changes to housing benefit. We have been campaigning

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hard on those issues. Likewise, the rural community are concerned about

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a Euro-sceptic plot ways, and single farm payments would all go.

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You are the Alliance candidate. What a people saying to you about

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the economy? Again, before I start, but I also find this situation

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rather unusual. There are five main parties in Northern Ireland, and

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they are only two are represented here tonight. That is an unusual

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situation. Democracy is all about given the electric a choice, and

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that has been narrowed dramatically. -- the electorate. What is your

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view on economic matters, when you talk to people who will be your

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constituents if you win? Were I am picking up a many worries. People

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are worried about how they will fill the tank in these freezing

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February nights, in the long term, how they will find jobs for their

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children. I met a lady who was devastated that five of her

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children have had to lipoma, are living abroad, and she is wondering

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if she will meet them again. -- have had to leave home. You are

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running for a Westminster seat. If you were to get elected, you would

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be a backbench MP with very little authority or power, as far as those

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local issues in Mid-Ulster are concerned. A in some respects. But

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big decisions are made in Westminster. Last night, there was

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a major debate on bedroom tax. MPs were grilling ministers on

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individual issues. Let us talk about a second issue tonight. A

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shared future. We have had disharmony on the streets of

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Northern Ireland. How would you promote a sense of a shared future?

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People are concerned about the impact on the Flat dispute on the

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local economy. -- flag. To offer young people a job is a priority.

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People want to see a stable future, a future where the accommodation of

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differences is the key buzz word and put into practice. Bringing

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respect and building trust will be the linchpin and a cornerstone of

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any future society for us all. That society which brings this about,

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attracting a thriving economy. party has not been a bystander on

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this issue. Some would say it played a pivotal role in what

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happened in flying the Union flag. We took a decision. We did nothing

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different to what the other parties agreed to at Stormont. That is what

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so -- that is what is so bizarre about it. The very parties that

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were protesting actually agreed to it in Stormont. Or would you do to

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promote a better sense of a shared future in Mid-Ulster? What I'm

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hearing on the doorstep is that although it seems to be down to an

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orange-green struggle, that is not really what influences people. They

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do like the method of a shared future, they see there will be

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greater stability. That is where the future lies, especially for the

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young people who don't have the same background. How big a

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challenge is that for Mid-Ulster? A big struggle. But it is not

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impossible. Reliance standpoint and publicity has been very clear. --

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the alliance. A shared future, where we tried to meet each other's

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aspirations, is there a way forward. A to both of you, this is a big ask

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for you, in terms of this campaign. Let us take a look at how things

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panned out in 2010. Your party got 14%, Sinn Fein got 52%. It is an

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uphill struggle. Do you accept that? Those are the politics of the

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past. What we are doing is looking to the future. We want to build a

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society with stability, the future economy and future jobs for our

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young people. The SDLP is looking ahead to a brighter future. Finally,

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can you cast itself as anything other than an Ulster man in this

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race, because it was 1% to got last and? Is it is an uphill struggle,

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but I will not cast myself as an Ulster man. Alliance is the cross-

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community Party of Northern Ireland, Under BBC guidelines, Mark

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Devenport, we are obliged to represent the views of the other

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party. Francie Molloy has expressed his concern about the economic

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situation, about scores of families he says he knows off where people

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have had to leave Mid-Ulster. He is concerned about the loss of skills.

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One of the ideas he suggests to address these problems is to get

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support for farmers, and Engineering Training Centre. He

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says he will campaign to bring jobs and investment, he will lobby for

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farmers, and a large part of his literature is about the fact that

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he won't be abstention list. He will be in Westminster when

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important votes are taking place. And what about the views of a

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shared future? Certainly flags feature in both lots of literature.

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Francie Molloy told the News Letter that he wants to allay their fears

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and build reconciliation. He defended the decision taken by

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Belfast City Council, the two was a democratic decision and people

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should respect that. Nigel Lutton said that elections could have

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consequences within well -- Belfast, and one of the consequences was the

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removal of the Union flag. But he does say that he will support

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people regardless of their background if he emerges from the

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Victor -- from the selection as the victor. And polling day is next

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Thursday, so potentially, we have an interesting week ahead. Could be.

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You never know. Maybe somebody else will be able to have captured the

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attention. Maybe somebody will be able to bring all of the candidates

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together. Our correspondents will be following them closely. They

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absolutely world. I should just point out that you can find the

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full details of the four candidates running in Mid-Ulster on our

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Still to come on The View: Could Basil McCrea's as yet unnamed

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Unionist Party learned from down The Former SDLP Minister Brid

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Rogers has told this programme that her party should leave the

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Executive because it is not doing enough to bring people together.

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She says the SDLP should become part of the Opposition. Her

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comments come as a Westminster committee has begun examining how

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an official opposition could work here. Here's our political reporter

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Stephen Walker. THE SPEAKER: Order! Border! Has he

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got a clue what he would do? Speaker, he has had... The clue is

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in the title - Prime Minister's Questions. It is a weekly affair,

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often generating more heat than light, but at least Prime

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Minister's questions give the voters an indication of what

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Parliamentary politics is like. To Government defends its position was

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the abolition seeks to challenge it. The dividing lines are clear.

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Darren essentially two narratives - one from the Government and one

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from the opposition. So is it time the Stormont following suit?

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This week, the Northern Ireland affairs committee came to Stormont

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to examine that very issue of opposition. What we have here is a

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blot on the democratic landscape. You expect in North Korea but not

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in Northern Ireland that he would be banned from having an opposition,

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and it is shameful. The creation of an official opposition of Stormont

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would require legislation. The Government in London a examining

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the political structures here, but say the idea of an opposition isn't

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on the agenda because there is no political consensus. A position

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that cut little ice with campaigners for change. Opposition

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isn't about wrecking Stormont. It is about having a viable, credible

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alternative structure that holds the Government to account. The UUP

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and the SDLP insists that they can hold the two parties to account by

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staying within the Executive. As Agriculture Minister breed Rogers

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sat round the Executive table, contrary to party policy, she

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thinks the SDLP's sole Minister should leave the Executive. He is

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doing a good job, but I think the SDLP should think about pulling out

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of the Executive, particularly as the Executive has not moved on

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integration at all. They have neither a policy Nora strategy.

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you think the SDLP should come out? I do, because they are not

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fulfilling the function they were meant to fulfil, which was to bring

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the people of Northern Ireland together to have a policy for that

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and a strategy for that, and they have neither. And I think for one

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estimate to turn that around is simply impossible. So you think the

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party should pull out? A think we would be better to be in real

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opposition. I don't think it would be an official opposition, but it

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would give us the freedom to become in a sense a real opposition.

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First Minister, Peter Robinson, favours the creation of an

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opposition, but he says there is already an unofficial one in place.

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We have run a very strong opposition. We have a well-informed

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opposition. The two smaller parties have tended to act as if they were

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an opposition, so we have Ministers in opposition as part of our system.

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The DUP and the UUP favour an opposition, as do the Alliance

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Party. Sinn Fein have concerns, and insist that the principles of the

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Good Friday Agreement are protected. That could greater scrutiny be

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achieved without diluting the concept of power sharing? You can

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look at the issue of opposition and Stormont in a way that doesn't

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necessarily mean you have to up start looking at either Good Friday

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Agreement or the St Andrews Agreement. So rather than adopting

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the full Westminster model of opposition, could other practices

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that I used in London be implemented at Stormont? In the

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Public Accounts Committee, the chair of that committee is always

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taken up by the Leader of the Opposition, the main opposition

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party. That might be one thing to look at, to look at the way that

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the chairs of the difference select committees are allocated. But one

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thing to do might be to think about opposition in that broader sense,

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and to use a committee like the public accounts committee to allow

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one of those smaller parties to take on an influential role.

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change is unlikely to satisfy those calling for the creation of four

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opposition. Basil McCrea and John McCallister have made that a

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central piece of their new party, and there is talk of a Private

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Member's Bill. But change can only come if there is a consensus, and

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at Stormont, that is in short supply.

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Stephen Walker supporting -- reporting. Deidre Heenan and Rick

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Welford are here to talk about this. Rick, is the proposal a runner?

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is. She is one of a growing chorus of voices calling for an opposition.

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The committee is looking at the provision of an official opposition

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as one of a number of potential reforms. It is easy enough to say,

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go into opposition, but there is no formal provision for it. They would

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need speaking rights. They would need committee places. They would

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need, among other things, the capacity to bring about a vote of

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no confidence in the actual Executive. There isn't provision

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for any of those things. Nor indeed for supply days when opposition

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parties can determine the topic for debate. So if you're going to be

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part of the chorus who want the opposition, you need to look at

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what we need to provide, and provide some finance to fund an

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official opposition, which might not go down well with the Electra -

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- electorate. His is an argument worth making? I take Rick's., but

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use 15 years since the Good Friday Agreement. -- I take Rick's point.

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Trying to get policy through now seems to be impossible, and we have

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a bizarre situation where you have Ministers and government putting

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forward one idea and then the next day criticising at their colleagues

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who are also in government. It seems strange that they are leaning

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between two policy ideas. As think it is important that we say, we

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have and in again, out again government, and they think it is

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important to say, here is the Government, here is the opposition,

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and it could be a sign of political maturity to say, the Friday

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Agreement work, or is it time to move on? Rick, let's talk about

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Mid-Ulster. A week to polling. We had a television debate tonight.

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Tea Party candidates here, two candidates missing. Half the

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debate! Were you surprised that the two parties who didn't come were

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missing? It is extraordinary, not least because in this circumstance

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you have a candidate in the shape of Nigel Lutton who is a unionist

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unity candidate, and it is presented as being such a signal

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moment in the development of unity, that people would actually sees the

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opportunity to make that pitch for Unionist unity, particularly given

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the nature of one of his key opponents, the other no show

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tonight, Francie Molloy. You seeking here, you seek him there.

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They are like the Pimpernel. Thank you, let's move on to another

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subject. Earlier this week, Basil McCrea and John McCallister scotch

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any speculation that they would join another existing party by

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announcing plans to form their own. The pair said they new party will

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be confident, progressive and pro- union. One thing they don't have,

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though, is a name. We went out onto the streets to ask if the name it

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It is very hard to make that call until you know what the name is. I

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appreciate the ambitions of the party, and they think they will

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have a wide appeal. But time will tell in terms of what Nene come up

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with. There is only one name her that they want to come up with.

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you have the right personalities, you would go to them. I don't think

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it would matter what banner they go under. It would have to be

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something significant, rather than just the same old. You would get

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mixed up. You really do, there is an awful lot of them. The name

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would and and her -- wouldn't entice me. It is the politicians to

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have to change. And Australia, you have a family party at the sex

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party. And yes, before you ask, it does exist, and it got 8% in the

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state election in Victoria last year, although it might be a while

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before the arrears a similar party here, and less Basil and John

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gopher that name! -- and Les Basil We took a poll here, and

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suggestions were at the Labour Deans,. The debate has kept us all

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glued to the television, and if you don't mind me saying the fact that

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Lord Rennard appears to have been somewhat liberal with his

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intentions. That is the allegation. He denies it. But it has very

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quickly become a story about Nick Clegg's leadership or lack of it,

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and it has been interesting how much the spotlight has turned to

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him, and his female party colleagues have not, to support him,

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so that says a lot. It right, your story of the week? The riff-raff

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man, Boris Johnson, and his attempt to speak to the Greater London

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Assembly. Do we have a Kip? Wishes to be exchanging question. Classic

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Boris. Are you saying they haven't the guts to put questions to me it?

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Great, supine critter plasmid invertebrate jellies. Great quote.

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You don't hear anything like that up at Stormont. We are more

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monosyllabic here. He is a wordsmith. But he did meet his

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comeuppance that day, because he was in effect voted off the

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platform by a coalition of Liberal Democrats, Labour and green

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candidates representing the GLA. Twit of the week? Chris Bryant. Did

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I miss something? Wasn't the whole point off Osborne's economics to

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point off Osborne's economics to keep the triple-A rating? The Tory

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MEP on the Italian election - a surprising number of Italians have

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voted for a comedian. The comedian to whom it he is furring is

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