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On The Wales Report tonight: The state of Welsh rugby and the future | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
of the regions - we'll be talking to the man in charge of the WRU. | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
Scotland's heading for a referendum on independence - what does that | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
mean for Plaid Cymru and its new leader, Leanne Wood? | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
And we have four new police commissioners, but most of you | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
didn't bother to vote. We'll be asking what kind of mandate they | :00:25. | :00:35. | |
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Good evening. We're back in Cardiff after Washington and London in | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
recent weeks, and tonight we explore a subject that many of you | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
feel very strongly about, judging by the number of comments and | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
questions you've sent us - and Friday's insipid performance by the | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
national side at the Millennium Stadium hasn't improved the mood. | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
But hang on - we've enjoyed three Grand Slams in eight years, we | :00:55. | :00:58. | |
reached the World Cup semi-finals just over a year ago and the Welsh | :00:58. | :01:08. | |
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Rugby Union has posted a record turnover of �63 million. | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
That's all very impressive but then you look a little deeper into the | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
games in Wales. Top-level players are leaving, enticed by better | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
deals, the regional structure is judged to be financially | :01:18. | :01:24. | |
unsustainable and there's been a clear fall in support. And in the | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
words of one former Welsh rugby giant, Bob Norster, there needs to | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
be a better balance between the national and regional game. Nothing | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
short of a complete restructuring is needed. | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
In a moment I'll be putting these points to Roger Lewis, chief | :01:40. | :01:43. | |
executive of the Welsh Rugby Union. But first some views from the | :01:43. | :01:53. | |
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Eight is all going horribly wrong for Wales! | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
The regions are desperate for more money to be competitive in Europe, | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
but the benefactors are withdrawing, Tony Brown at the dragons, Mike | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
Cuddy at the Ospreys. It would appear that the regions do not | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
touch our soul. But you don't have to be a | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
structural engineer to know that if you look at the top and weaken the | :02:20. | :02:29. | |
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bottom, even the mightiest of Wales needs strong regions, and if | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
they are successful then we will be successful. With all this bickering, | :02:38. | :02:46. | |
Welsh rugby is going to lose out. There is a danger that increasingly | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
Welsh players will be playing outside Wales. I don't blame the | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
players foregoing where they will get top dollar, and top dollar | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
right now is in France. The danger is that more will follow, with | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
people like Jamie Roberts and somewhere down the road, Leigh | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
Halfpenny. How to prevent them from going and keep them in Wales? | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
money that could be made in France for some of the guys at the moment | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
is twice or three times as much as what they would earn in Wales, it | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
is merely a financial choice in the end. If you are getting this money | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
offered to you in France, it is difficult to turn down. | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
If you have the chequebook, you dictate. At the moment, there are | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
two different bodies, if you like, trying to work with the same | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
players. If it was under more -- one umbrella, I would think it | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
would be more effective. It is a little bit of common sense, | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
and the regions and the WRU to thrash out something sensible for | :03:45. | :03:54. | |
Wales. Bad news, the All Blacks are coming | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
to town next Saturday! We asked a fundamental crossroads | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
in the history of Welsh rugby, let's make no bones about that. -- | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
we are at a fundamental crossroads. We need a solution lasting for many, | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
many years. I would like to see a fundamental difference from the | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
start of next season, so we can't drive our feet, we have to act. Now | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
is the time for action, the time for talking is over. Let's go on | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
and do it. Roger Lewis joins me, good to have | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
the withers. There is time for more talking, despite what you said, | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
there is much to talk about. I wonder whether you accept that | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
Welsh rugby as a whole is in crisis? The good news is that | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
talking is virtually over, I'm pretty confident that this side of | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
Christmas we will sign a new accord with our four regions. Now is the | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
time not to look into the mirror, which we are fond of doing in Wales, | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
and over our shoulder, now we need to look forward and look through | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
the windows and come together with confidence. As someone once said, | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
if we are inseparable, we will be insuperable. The people we are | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
talking to and have spoken to over many months, very discreetly, are | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
coming together with a new sense of purpose. I am confident it will be | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
sorted this side of Christmas. is it about the new deal that will | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
change the picture and give people more hope? The Welsh Academy's's | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
the Welsh Academy's and Sega PAD of Wells says that Welsh rugby is a | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
barometer of the national condition. The economic condition in Wales is | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
very challenging. We have to have a more joined-up and central attitude | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
towards how we manage Welsh rugby, for the benefit of all of Welsh | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
rugby. We're close to finishing up now, we're in the final throes of | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
this, we are close to putting together a new agreement that would | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
see a far greater structural agreement between the regions and | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
Welsh Rugby Union. How would that constitute practical changes? Give | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
me an example of how people would say, oh, I can see what they have | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
done and why this makes sense. Rugby, we need to be more joined-up | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
in approaching the rugby issues. We need to work far closer with our | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
players. Which players play for which regions and when, how do we | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
manage that with the national team? Financially, we need the right | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
systems and structures in place with the right people and skills to | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
make sure we maximise the opportunity in what is a very | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
challenging economic set of circumstances. The regions will no | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
longer be starved of funds, as they say they have been over the past | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
few years? I don't agree they have been. We only signed a | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
participation agreement three years ago which gave the region's | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
fantastic financial horizons. But has not been the case. We have been | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
working on a rolling five-year financial plan within the WRU which | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
has delivered consistently. I am confident it will continue to | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
deliver. We can work with the regions to ensure they have the | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
same thinking. It is delivering lots of things including, some | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
would argue, top players leaving. You can't blame them for doing this, | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
they are looking up their own resources and financial conditions | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
and thinking, well, why would I stay as I am getting a far better | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
deal elsewhere, a deal not possible because of the structure in place. | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
When you change that? We need to put it into context. | :07:35. | :07:42. | |
Will it change? Welsh rugby is a barometer. In the 1920s and 1930s... | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
We don't have time to go back there! 64 Welsh internationals left | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
Wales in the 20s and 30s to go north, seek employment and play | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
rugby. In the 80s and 90s, 19 players left Wales. It is not a new | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
phenomenon, these things happen in economically challenging times. But | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
we can work together with the regions to create an environment | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
that is so attractive that people will think twice. Will we stop the | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
flood? I think we can if we get it right, but will we stop everyone | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
leaving Wales? No, that has never been the case. We have to create a | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
sense that this is something so important for a Welsh player to | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
play their rugby here that we have to make it so attractive that they | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
will not consider that. How? really get the sense of immense | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
pride within Welsh rugby... shouldn't have to tell people to | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
have pride to play for their team! You are so right, but I think it | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
has been eroded by so many conditions, so many things that | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
have gone on and Wales. It has been tough, and some players find it | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
better to be out of the goldfish bowl when trying to swim here. | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
Should players who decide to go abroad be allowed to play for the | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
national side? That is an argument that has been deployed. That is a | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
card that can be played, but you have to play it at the right time. | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
Now is not the time, we haven't got the joined-up contractual | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
relationship with the regions. If we have that, if we have a sense | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
that it is Team Wales, we can then say, if you do not play your rugby | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
in Wales, you do not get picked for Wales, that is something New | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
Zealand has done and Ireland have also emphasise that point. If we | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
get the joined-up thinking between ourselves and the regions, we can | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
think that way. And if you don't get the region's right, very soon | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
you will see a very bad impact on the national picture? We have to | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
get it right. I think it will impact the national team. Put it in | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
context, let's not forget we came back from a World Cup last year | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
with our reputation and performance greatly enhanced, we won a Grand | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
Slam, so it is not bad, but it is very serious. When we are good, we | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
are awesome. When we are bad, we all full, and the last two weekends | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
have been seriously awful. -- when we are bad, we are awful. We have | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
to get its structure the right, I am confident we can do that and a | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
thick white smoke will appear from the Millennium Stadium before | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
Christmas. -- and I think white smoke will appear. I was hoping we | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
would get it right before the season started, as the film showed, | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
but I will not come up with a sticking-plaster solution. If Welsh | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
rugby is littered with short-term solutions, I've always said it is | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
long-term sustainability and thinking to get our systems, | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
structure and staffing and skills, to get a real strategic attitude | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
backed up by huge ambition. That is what I need him place, that is what | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
we are close to. I feel if we can continue, as we have done | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
discreetly over the past few months, if we all make an announcement over | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
the next couple of weeks which will give the Welsh fans great | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
confidence. Let's hope so, we will talk to you | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
in the New Year, good to talk to you, thank you. We will keep our | :11:06. | :11:14. | |
fingers crossed for the matches coming up. We have to front up. | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
WRU is not the only Welsh body actively considering its strategy | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
for the future - Plaid Cymru is also in the same boat. The party's | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
result in last year's Assembly elections looks less than | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
convincing when you compare it with the success of its sister party, | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
the SNP, under Alex Salmond. He'll be leading the party's campaign in | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
the Scottish independence referendum in 2014. Meanwhile | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
Plaid's new leader, Leanne Wood, has decided to abandon her status | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
as a regionally-elected AM and to stand in a constituency instead. | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
She says that could lead to a new breakthrough. We'll be talking to | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
Leanne Wood in a moment, but first here's David Williams on the | :11:48. | :11:58. | |
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After centuries living in the shadow of a dominant neighbour, the | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
long burn off nationalism in Wales and Scotland suddenly ignited in | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
the 1960s, with the election to Westminster of two people whose | :12:09. | :12:19. | |
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names would become synonymous with their parties. 16,179. Quinn of our | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
Evans, who won the first Plaid Cymru seat in 1966, and the | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
following year, Winnie Ewing, winning her seat for the Scottish | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
National Party. Three decades later and a long journey to devolution | :12:36. | :12:42. | |
reached an important milestone, with both parties enjoying success | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
in the first Assembly election in Wales and the parliamentary | :12:46. | :12:51. | |
election in Scotland. Plaid were very successful at establishing | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
themselves as a moderate Welsh party. They also had the most | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
popular leader in Wales at the time. Plaid's spectacular success in 1999 | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
threatened for the first time to end Labour's dominance of Welsh | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
politics. But the early promise was short-lived, and since then, Plaid | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
has suffered a number of defeats and has languished in the polls. | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
The subsequent years under a di Ieuan Wyn Jones, Plaid Cymru has | :13:22. | :13:28. | |
been led by a man who has many admirable qualities and is an | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
admirable politician, but all the survey evidence suggests he was | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
utterly lacking in voter appeal. Plaid and the SNP were now set on | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
very different paths. What Alex Salmond did above all, | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
and I don't think Plaid have done this to the same extent, is broaden | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
the SNP church quite considerably over the past 10 and even 20 years. | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
Going back to when he first became leader, he tried to soften the | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
edges of the SNP's harder, more left-wing ideological positions. | :14:01. | :14:08. | |
Although both parties entered government in 2007, the SNP as a | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
minority government and plaid as junior coalition partners to Labour, | :14:13. | :14:22. | |
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only the SNP seemed to have a clear Plaid Cymru fluctuate much more | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
between wanting more powers, more independence, more federalism. The | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
electorate will be confused about what the final destination is. | :14:32. | :14:37. | |
Passing under a statue of Lloyd George in Caernarfon, one of the | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
20th century's most charismatic and successful leaders, a former | :14:42. | :14:48. | |
President of Plaid Cymru reflects on the current state of his own | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
party. It has a new leader in Leanne Wood but some wonder how | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
long she will be there, having announced that at the next election | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
due plans to vacate a relatively safe regional seat and try and win | :15:01. | :15:07. | |
a constituency seat instead. -- she plans. She does not see it as a | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
danger or a challenge. She leads by example. If she means what she says, | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
and she does, that we have to concentrate on winning | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
constituencies, then she is now putting herself in the front line. | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
But what as a consequence if she loses the seat? You lose the leader. | :15:24. | :15:31. | |
I think there are many years to go. By then, if we are successful, I | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
think we will have re-engaged with the people of Wales in a different | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
way. The question of leadership is not the only problem for Plaid | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
Cymru. There is another, and it is rooted in places like this, | :15:43. | :15:49. | |
Caernarfon. The epicentre of Plaid Cymru's political heartland. Set | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
against the backdrop of a castle designed to keep the troublesome | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
Welsh under control, it is not surprising perhaps that Plaid Cymru | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
enjoys strong support in places like this. But much of that support | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
comes from people who speak the Welsh language. And the language | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
can be both a strength and the weakness for Plaid Cymru. I think | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
there is a disconnects sometimes because of the language barrier. | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
The success of Plaid Cymru and Welsh-speaking areas is more | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
consistent than it is in the more anglicised areas. But I think | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
gradually as time goes on the people of Wales are becoming easier | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
with the language and more supportive of it. We have to | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
convince them again that we have the idea is to lead Wales. Plaid | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
Cymru remains in battle, struggling with its various difficulties. In | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
the meantime, its nationalist colleagues in Scotland are | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
preparing for an altogether bigger fight, the historic fight, a fight | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
to persuade the people of Scotland in a referendum to vote for | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
independence. Plaid Cymru can only dream of such things. They are left | :16:59. | :17:06. | |
hoping that their new leader will deliver on her promise and lead the | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
party to new victories in a new Wales. | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
And Plaid Cymru's new leader, Leanne Wood, is with me. Thank you | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
for coming in. How would you describe the challenge facing you? | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
Well, I am very much looking forward to fighting a constituency | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
seat. I think that the days of safety-first politics have to be | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
over now. We face a number of challenges as a country. There are | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
a number of good reasons why we need to do our politics differently. | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
And the same needs to go for Plaid Cymru. We need to be bold, I think, | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
now and ambitious for our party, as well as for our nation. That is why | :17:43. | :17:51. | |
I am going to contest a constituency seat. With all the | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
challenges facing you, you are adding to your problems, some would | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
say, by taking on this huge gamble. Why are you doing that? Is it a | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
sign of desperation? We can either carry on as we are with the limited | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
Dumbo of seats that we have, relying heavily on the lists, -- | :18:10. | :18:17. | |
limited number. What is wrong with the list? Nothing, there are just | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
not enough listed seats if we are going to become the biggest party | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
in the National Assembly. We will have to break through into | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
constituency seats and take new constituency seats. I am offering | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
leadership to the party and to the nation to show that we can do this. | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
If we put our minds to it and we are determined to see success then | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
we have to believe that we can get there and we have to take the same | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
attitude to the nation about an economic problems as well in | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
particular. When did you take the decision to go from the list and | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
look for a constituency? I announce the decision this week and it is | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
something I have been discussing with colleagues for a number of | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
weeks. I am yet to make a decision as to which the seat to stand in. | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
Why? Further discussions will take place and I am sure you will fully | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
understand that. I do but I have to say to you that as a leader who | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
will plan strategically, how do I put this? I find it difficult to | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
believe that you have no idea why you want to stand. I'm not ready to | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
make an announcement on that. has to be the home patch? I will | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
discuss options with party members. Do you have an idea of where you | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
would like to stand but you will not tell us? I have a number of | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
ideas in mind. And your home patch would be one of them? Potentially | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
but I will not make any further decision or announcement until I | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
have discussed the options. used the phrase, safety-first | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
politics have to come to an end and you have to make a bold gesture. I | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
take it that in the last 10 years, at least since 1999, the high point | :19:50. | :19:57. | |
of the percentage of the vote, that has been a wasted decade? I would | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
not describe it as a wasted decade. Plaid Cymru over the last few years | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
has focused very much on constitutional change. When our | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
devolution settlement was set up, as is done here was much weaker | :20:09. | :20:15. | |
than they had in Scotland. -- our system. There has been worked over | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
the past 10 years to bring our settlement up to the same level of | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
Scotland even though we are nowhere near that as yet. At least we now | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
have a law-making Parliament supported by two thirds of the | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
people who voted in 2011. That is good. There are a number of things | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
that we achieved while in Government that I think Plaid Cymru | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
can be very proud of. Do you think there is a refocusing now? We need | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
to change our focus on to the economy. That is the one thing | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
since the days of devolution that has not gone in the right direction. | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
Our economy in Wales has been in decline over the last 20 years and | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
we really need to change our game plan in terms of dealing with that. | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
Because the Assembly does not have any powers over taxation, there has | :20:58. | :21:00. | |
been very limited incentive to actually increase the numbers of | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
people paying into the tax pot, if you like. That has to be the next | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
big step change for the National Assembly. What would be the big tax | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
change that he would propose? would like to see the National | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
Assembly over a range of taxes. Including income tax? Partly over | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
income tax as well because that is the biggest earner and the one you | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
can do the most with. But if you have got a range and you can make | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
powers to make changes within the range of taxes, then you have more | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
flexibility and more power to your elbow in terms of changing those | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
things that need to be changed to have a successful economy. What is | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
clear to me is that what we are doing now is not working and what | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
we have done over the last 20 years has not worked. We have an economic | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
crisis were far too many people are really struggling in Wales and the | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
need to seriously address the economy now. 11 seats out of 60 in | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
the last election. What is the yardstick for success for Leanne | :21:58. | :22:04. | |
Wood? What are you aiming for? 15, 25 seats? You must have a realistic | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
look at the targets. What are you aiming for? I am not going to put a | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
number on it. Double it? We need to improve on 11 seats. That could be | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
12 or 13. Would that be good? can do a lot better than that. I | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
believe we are working very hard on putting together a programme of | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
Government that will be exciting. We are opening up our candidate | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
selection process so we will have a very strong, high quality team of | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
candidates in that election. I firmly believe that we can do very | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
well. We will talk to you again. Thank you for coming in. | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
This is a direct question. Where were you on Thursday? The answer | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
most of you will give is not other polling station. Wales was electing | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
its first Police Commissioners but the average turnout across the | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
country was just under 15% and Wales did provide some interesting | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
headlines. Including 0 turnout at one polling station in Malpas | :22:58. | :23:05. | |
Cricket Club in Newport. The blame one game well and truly under way. | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
We now have four Police Commissioner's wielding significant | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
power and influence, but is their mandate weekend by the lack of | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
concern by Welsh voters? Ian Johnston has stood as an | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
independent and is a former police officer. Thank you for coming in. | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
It is a very responsible position to be in. What do you see as the | :23:27. | :23:32. | |
main challenge for you? I think the main challenge is to reconnect | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
communities, certainly where I am represented, in Gwent, who tell me | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
over the past five months that there are certain aspects of | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
policing that they are not happy with. That is against a background | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
of Gwent having a very good record, certainly in terms of reducing | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
crime. The review of how policing has gone, that is perhaps a little | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
bit apart from the way that the chief officers see it. Give me a | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
practical example of the things that people want to see change. | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
People are not happy about the lack of feedback when they make a | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
complaint. Ironically more people are unhappy with the police after | :24:06. | :24:08. | |
they have had an experience of making the complaint than they were | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
before. We need to do something about that. Low follow up after a | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
complaint is the biggest issue that came to me following the campaign. | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
How disappointed, frustrated or even angry are you that voters did | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
not want to engage with the process of electing you and your | :24:26. | :24:32. | |
colleagues? It is extremely frustrating. I stood as an | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
independent and I am not here today to score cheap political points. | :24:36. | :24:43. | |
The facts are that as an independent I had the | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
responsibility for getting leaflets out to people. The Government | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
denied voters the free mailshot. I don't know how many voters know | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
this, I did not, that during the election the comfort that to get | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
through the door is paid for by the Government. We did not get that | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
this time. I managed to distribute with my two of people 180,000 | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
leaflets but I know that many people did not put money levered | :25:08. | :25:17. | |
out at all. -- my team of people. Are you going to be more cautious | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
in the way that to tackle things now? Will you think that most of | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
the public are not on side in this process? I think in nine months' | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
time that people will forget about the poor turnout as long as the new | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
police and crime Commission is doing a good job. That is the big | :25:33. | :25:41. | |
if. -- Police and Crime Commissioner. Yes, I am the 4th of | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
the people and I am addressing the complaints. I think a lot depends | :25:45. | :25:52. | |
on the 41 people to make as excess of this. The system is flawed but | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
we have to make it work, and it is the people who have just been | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
elected that do that. Including the Independents. We will invite you | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
back and measure performance against that yardstick. Thank you. | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
We would be very interested to find out what you make of the Police | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
Commissioner's role and indeed by many of you could not be bothered | :26:14. | :26:23. | |
to vote. Send us your comments. You can email and use Twitter. | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
I have to say that you have certainly sent us plenty of Commons | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
in recent weeks. Let's start with the state of the NHS following our | :26:31. | :26:38. | |
reports on standards of care. A retired nurse from Abergavenny is | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
concerned about plans to change the way at that hospital services are | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
delivered in Wales. It is very sad that the NHS, which was born in | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
Wales, is dying here. It is obvious that there was Government is not | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
doing us any favours. Simon Morgan worked for the Department of Health | :26:54. | :27:04. | |
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in London and has recently moved Let's stop there for a second | :27:09. | :27:14. | |
because Betsan Powys is with me. She has been monitoring all of the | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
messages that have been coming in. Let big about the importance of the | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
health reforms in the big political climate. -- let's think about. | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
These emails tell us that it is right at the heart of it. The role | :27:29. | :27:34. | |
of the national clinical Forum, the body at arm's length from | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
Government, there to give the minister clinical expertise or as a | :27:38. | :27:42. | |
shield, depending on your take on that. The question this week about | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
whether they should stand their ground when they say things that | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
health boards do not like. The head of the NHS in Wales says that he is | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
confident that local health boards will break even this year. Health | :27:53. | :27:59. | |
minister has staked her reputation on doing exactly that. If they do | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
not, and there are plenty of Assembly members suggesting they | :28:02. | :28:12. | |
will not, will Hernych be on the line? We will keep tabs on that. -- | :28:12. | :28:20. | |
will her neck be on the line? Lisa Morgan has been in contact | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
over Twitter about people going into care homes unnecessarily | :28:23. | :28:27. | |
because of a lack of information, what she calls a postcode lottery | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
in Wales where care is concerned. The outlook for what economy is | :28:31. | :28:41. | |
very much on people's minds, a -- for the Welsh economy. Chris Benson | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
said that small businesses need speed, efficiency and less | :28:44. | :28:49. | |
bureaucracy to succeed, which was a common theme. Alan Clark had | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
concerns over possible changes to the Welsh Government's powers to | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
collect tax. He said that if the Welsh Assembly go ahead with the | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
income tax proposal it will cost Wales jobs, because it will | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
antagonise companies and they will avoid expanding or coming to Wales. | :29:06. | :29:11. | |
That brings us right to the heart of one of the hot issues of the | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
moment and we can expect news on that tomorrow. Yes, the Silk | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
Commission reports tomorrow and they will be handing it over to | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
David Jones, the Secretary of State. They were sent out, a cross-party | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
commission, to consider the way that Wales should be funded in the | :29:26. | :29:31. | |
future. The wedding ring in their ears was accountability back then. | :29:31. | :29:38. | |
-- at the wording ringing in their ears. The word that has come back | :29:38. | :29:45. | |
is empowerment. What does that mean? Stamp duty, passenger duty on | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
aircraft, taxation like that will be interesting, but the really big | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
question will be the page about income tax. What will they decide | :29:52. | :29:58. | |
on that? What is your hand? word empowerment sounds positive to | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
meet and I think they want to be part of the way to say yes on | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
income tax. We will effect on that next week. I know that you will | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
have an opinion on all of that. Please keep your comments coming in | :30:12. | :30:18. |