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Good afternoon. Our weekly coverage of questions

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Good afternoon. Our weekly coverage of qeestionc to

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Good afternoon. Our weekly coverage of questions to the first

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of qeestionc to the first Minister. We can expect plenty of questions on

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tha We can expect plenty of questions on

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the winter We can expect plenty of questions on

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tha gintep `ressures We can expect plenty of questions on

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the winter pressures facing the We can expect plenty of questions on

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tha gintep `ressures fabing the NHS We can expect plenty of questions on

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and borrowing powers for the Welsh and borrowing powers for the Wdlsh

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Government. There is also Goternment. There as also the

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question of whether Jammie Dodgers Goternment. There as also the

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should still be made Goternment. There as also the

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should still be lade in Wales. Goternment. There as also the

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should still be lade in WalEs. If should still be lade in Wales. If

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you want to comment on anything, get should still be lade in Wales. If

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in touch. Business in the should still be lade in Wales. If

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is already underway so let's take a look. uestaon

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is already underway so let's take a look. Question one. Will be first

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is already underway so let's take a Minicter make a

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is already underway so let's take a Minister make a statement on

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is already underway so let's take a services in

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is already underway so let's take a servaces in Wales?

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is already underway so let's take a services in Wales? Our priority is

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for dhe services in Wales? Our priority is

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for the health services in Wales? Our priority is

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for dhe health service services in Wales? Our priority is

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for the health service in services in Wales? Our priority is

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for dhe health service hn Wales for the health service in Wales as

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sep for the health service in Wales as

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set out. The health board was one of the first to announce their

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set out. The health board was one of re-formalisation plans.

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set out. The health board was one of re)formalisation plans. It appears

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the re)formalisation plans. It appears

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tha `lans re)formalisation plans. It appears

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the plans are re)formalisation plans. It appears

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tha `lans abe fap more re)formalisation plans. It appears

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This is crucially important because my constituents depend upon some

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This is crucially important because the

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This is crucially important because tha cervicec avahlable.

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This is crucially important because the services available. Can the

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tha servicec avahlable. Can thd first

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tha servicec avahlable. Can thd fipst Minister

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tha servicec avahlable. Can thd first Minister tell us how

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tha servicec avahlable. Can thd Government ensures that t`e proper

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Government ensures that the proper coordination is in place

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Government ensures that the proper coordination is hn place and

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Government ensures that the proper weren't the proposals

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wepen't the propnsals ptblished simultaneously. The health

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wepen't the propnsals ptblished siiultaneoucly. The health minhster

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simultaneously. The health minister is considering the proposals

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simultaneously. The health minister out in order

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simultaneously. The health minister oup in ordeb to dnsure their raise

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simultaneously. The health minister link between the services

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simultaneously. The health minister available between different health

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boards. Progress available between different health

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reconfigured Tenby available between different health

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reconfigured Ten`y minor available between different health

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reconfigured Tenby minor injury available between different health

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services seems services seems to be stalling

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services reems to be services seems to be stalling

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because there was no agreement bepween

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because there was no agreement between GPs

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because there was no agreement bepween GPs and the healt`

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between GPs and the health board. What action can the Govdrnment

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between GPs and the health board. What action can the Government take

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between GPs and the health board. if agreement cannot be reached

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locally? There was a meetang today between the health board and

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locally? There was a meetang today bepween the health board and the

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between the health board and the GPs in Tenby. Both sides are keen on

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between the health board and the GPs achieving a solution. Otr

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between the health board and the GPs achieving a solution. Our hope

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between the health board and the GPs the issue can be resolved there and

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between the health board and the GPs then. One health service that is

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both used and widely valued is the pain manafement bentre hn

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both used and widely valued is the pain management centre in Powys.

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Currently the services at the centre are

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Currently the services at the centre ara ender t`reat

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Currently the services at the centre are under threat of suspension

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because of the unit's are under threat of suspension

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because od dhe ulit's failure are under threat of suspension

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because of the unit's failure of a are under threat of suspension

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recent fire safety assessment. are under threat of suspension

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Disappointingly it has taken a are under threat of suspension

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number are under threat of suspension

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nuiber of months for are under threat of suspension

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number of months for issues raised are under threat of suspension

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in t`at are under threat of suspension

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in that assessment are under threat of suspension

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in t`at arsessmelt to bd are under threat of suspension

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by the local healt` board, are under threat of suspension

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before the arrival are under threat of suspension

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executive, their raise concern the are under threat of suspension

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centre is are under threat of suspension

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celtre is under threat of are under threat of suspension

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centre is under threat of closure celtbe is under threat nf clostre

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and courses could be suspended if thase

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and courses could be suspended if these issues

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and courses could be suspended if these issuec are not addressed. WiLl

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these issues are not addressed. Will yoq

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these issues are not addressed. Will you `lease

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these issues are not addressed. Will you please look into this

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these issues are not addressed. Will is incumbent on the L H P the

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these issues are not addressed. Will facility is appropriate but I am not

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aware of any plans to remove or suspend the service,

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aware of any plans to remove or suspend the servhce, and

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aware of any plans to remove or suspend the service, and I hope

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aware of any plans to remove or issue can be resolved quickly. First

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aware of any plans to remove or Minister, you have

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aware of any plans to remove or Minicter, you have said as has the

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aware of any plans to remove or health Minister that people have

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aware of any plans to remove or been given a date for elective

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orthopaedic been given a date for elective

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orthopaedhc treatment been given a date for elective

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orthopaedic treatment at that been given a date for elective

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surgery. I have a constituent been given a date for elective

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had been been given a date for elective

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ha` been fifen been given a date for elective

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had been given a date been given a date for elective

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ha` been gifen a date for been given a date for elective

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had been given a date for the pre-op been given a date for elective

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appointment and as a been given a date for elective

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treatment been given a date for elective

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traadment would been given a date for elective

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treatment would result in a few treatment would pesult hn a few

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weeks but they are now been told treatment would pesult hn a few

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there was no point in them treatment would pesult hn a few

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the pre-op appointment because treatment would pesult hn a few

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the `re-op appointment because the the pre-op appointment because the

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treatment will not take place. the pre-op appointment because the

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treatment wall nnt take place. I treadment wall nnt take place. I

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would like to see that letter because

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would like to see that letter becaese that

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would like to see that letter because that is not what the

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would like to see that letter becaese that is lot what the bnard

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would like to see that letter is saying. They have confirmed that

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would like to see that letter operations will carry on. If there

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would like to see that letter is a letter saying that, I would

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would like to see that letter like to see who that has

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would like to see that letter like to see who that har come

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like to see who that has come from so we can considdr

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like to see who that has come from so we can consider what has happened

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thare. Will he so we can consider what has happened

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there. Will he make a statement on so we can consider what has happened

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health care provision in North so we can consider what has happened

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Wales? Our commitment so we can consider what has happened

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Wahes? Our commitment was so we can consider what has happened

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Wales? Our commitment was reinforced by the announcement for a new

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Wales? Our commitment was reinforced primary care centre in Colwyn Bay.

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Although primary care centre in Colwyn Bay.

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Alphough the healt` minister in thE primary care centre in Colwyn Bay.

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last assembly has said their raise and overriding aim to secure

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last assembly has said their raise an` overriding aim to sdcure as maNy

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last assembly has said their raise services

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last assembly has said their raise sepvices provided

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last assembly has said their raise services provided within Wales down

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trees, and a services provided within Wales down

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traec, and a Welsh Government trees, and a Welsh Government

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official confirmed it is policy to ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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repatriate Welsh patients ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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repadriate Gelsh patients currently ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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in English locations. How will you ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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address ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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ad`ress concern amongst both ofdicial confirmdd it is policy to

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patients and health care providers across

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patients and health care providers acpocs the bordep

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patients and health care providers acrocs thd bordep that

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patients and health care providers acpocs the bordep that repatriatioNs

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patients and health care providers of health services into Wales is

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accentuating waiting lists and problems and what is the Welsh

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accentuating waiting lists and Government doing to address this? We

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accentuating waiting lists and want to sde

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accentuating waiting lists and want to see people

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accentuating waiting lists and want to sde people treated in placEs

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accentuating waiting lists and that are closest to them and that

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are safe that are closest to them and that

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ara cafe fob them. There as that are closest to them and that

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are safe for them. There is no that are closest to them and that

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policy on our behalf where we are seeking to ensure that

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policy on our behalf where we are seekang to ensure that all our

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seeking to ensure that all our treatments are

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seeking to ensure that all our treadments are delavered

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treatments are delivered within Wales, we have never said that.

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Treatments will be delivered inevitably

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Treatments will be delivered inavatably an

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Treatments will be delivered inevitably in England were

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Treatments will be delivered inevatably an Enfland were the best

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inevitably in England were the best oupcomes

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inevitably in England were the best outcomes dob the pactured.

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outcomes for the pictured. What can the finanbe ministers annouNcement

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the finance ministers announcement on the

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the finance ministers announcement on t`e drafd project...

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the finance ministers announcement staffing levels is vital to

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the finance ministers announcement patients are well looked after. It

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seems that patients are well looked after. It

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seemc that David Cameron patients are well looked after. It

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seems that David Cameron does patients are well looked after. It

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agree but I do patients are well looked after. It

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agpee but I do nnt patients are well looked after. It

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agree but I do not care patients are well looked after. It

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Govebnment `as sacced patients are well looked after. It

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Government has sacked 4000 nurses in England alone. Can I urge you,

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Government has sacked 4000 nurses in please do

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Government has sacked 4000 nurses in pleace do not accept any

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please do not accept any lessons from either David

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please do not accept any lessons from eithdr David Cameron

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please do not accept any lessons from either David Cameron or the

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please do not accept any lessons Welsh

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please do not accept any lessons Wehs` onrebvatites.

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please do not accept any lessons Welsh Conservatives. Will you

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Welsh Conrebvatites. Will you outline what your Government is

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Welsh Conrebvatites. Will you doing to ensure nurses,

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Welsh Conrebvatites. Will you doing to dnsure nurses, t`at

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doing to ensure nurses, that there are

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doing to ensure nurses, that there ara adequ`te

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doing to ensure nurses, that there are adequate specialist nurses to

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are adequ`te specialist nurses to protect our NHS? We will not s`ck

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protect our NHS? We will not sack thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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know the woes thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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know the voes of thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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know the woes of the English thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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service, we see it thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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servace, we see ht again thousands of nurses in Wales. We

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service, we see it again in the newspapers

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service, we see it again in the news`apers doday, problems

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service, we see it again in the newspapers today, problems with

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service, we see it again in the bankrupt trusts, all the indicators

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are going in the wrong direction. bankrupt trusts, all the indicators

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There was nothing we can learn over the mishaldling of

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There was nothing we can learn over the mishandling of the NHS in

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England. But you the mishandling of the NHS in

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England. Bud you are the mishandling of the NHS in

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England. But you are content to send the mishandling of the NHS in

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our most honoura`le the mishandling of the NHS in

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our most honourable babies to the mishandling of the NHS in

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service. Word that service is good, the mishandling of the NHS in

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that is the sensible thing to do. What do you want to do,

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that is the sensible thing to do. in Wales where they do not have the

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in Wales vhere theq do not havd the treatment they need?

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in Wales vhere theq do not havd the traadment t`ey nded? First

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in Wales vhere theq do not havd the treatment they need? First Minister,

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in Wales vhere theq do not havd the we will be discussing neonatal

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services going we will be discussing neonatal

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sepvices goang to England we will be discussing neonatal

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services going to England this sepvaces foing to England this

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afternoon, sepvaces foing to England this

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afpebnoon, but sepvaces foing to England this

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afternoon, but there was sepvaces foing to England this

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afpebnoon, but there war also ` afternoon, but there was also a

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problem il derms of afternoon, but there was also a

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problem in terms of strategic afternoon, but there was also a

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management an th`t health afternoon, but there was also a

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management in that health board and afternoon, but there was also a

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that is demonstrated in the afternoon, but there was also a

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discussed. Given the A Department afternoon, but there was also a

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has had to afternoon, but there was also a

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has `ad to cend `mbulances afternoon, but there was also a

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has had to send ambulances to afternoon, but there was also a

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Wrexham afternoon, but there was also a

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Wrax`am for afternoon, but there was also a

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Wrexham for the whole afternoon, but there was also a

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Wraxham for the whole day, do xou afternoon, but there was also a

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have confidence in the afternoon, but there was also a

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hate confidence in the health have confidence in the health board

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and dhe have confidence in the health board

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and the way they are planning in North Wales? Yes,

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and the way they are planning in Nopt` Wales? Yes, especially

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and the way they are planning in North Wales? Yes, especially given

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their North Wales? Yes, especially given

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thaib right North Wales? Yes, especially given

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their right new North Wales? Yes, especially given

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thaib right new leaders coming intO the health board and we have to have

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confidence in them. First Minister, the health board and we have to have

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a month ago that your the health board and we have to have

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minister made a statement the health board and we have to have

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closure od the health board and we have to have

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closure of the regeneration closere od dhe regeneration

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investment fund for Wales, closere od dhe regeneration

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investment fund dor Wales, It closere od dhe regeneration

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worth reflection -- reflecting on what this wall

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worth reflection -- reflecting on what this will do which would

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reinvest in town centres and what this will do which would

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encourage what this will do which would

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encoerage sestailable what this will do which would

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encourage sestailable developmdnt what this will do which would

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across the whole of Wales. This was going to be funded by

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across the whole of Wales. This was going to `e funddd by the sAle

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going to be funded by the sale of publicly owned land

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going to be funded by the sale of pu`lacly nwned land and

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publicly owned land and that was concluded for the sum of ?20

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publicly owned land and that was million. Significant points of

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publicly owned land and that was concern have been

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publicly owned land and that was concern h`ve beel raised

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publicly owned land and that was concern have been raised about

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publicly owned land and that was colcern have been raised about the

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colcern h`ve beel raised about the value of the sale that the Welsh

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Government undertook of this land. Government undertook of this land.

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Are you able Government undertook of this land.

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Are qou a`le to hnform Government undertook of this land.

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Are you able to inform the chamber Government undertook of this land.

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as to the pbocess Government undertook of this land.

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as to the process that was undertaken

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as to the process that was un`ebtakel by

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as to the process that was undertaken by the Welsh Government

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as to the process that was because on the surface it

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as to the process that was if the Welsh taxpayer was

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as to the process that was shord-chalged. This is

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as to the process that was short-changed. This is a

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as to the process that was shord-chalged. This is a matter that

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as to the process that was is under investigation. I

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as to the process that was is under hnfestigation. I cannnt

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is under investigation. I cannot comment until

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is under investigation. I cannot coiment ultal thnse

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is under investigation. I cannot after

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is under investigation. I cannot afpeb completed.

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is under investigation. I cannot afteb completed. All the points I

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is under investigation. I cannot raised are in the public domain and

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is under investigation. I cannot I would invite you to congratulate

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is under investigation. I cannot my colleague Byron Davies on his

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effobts to my colleague Byron Davies on his

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efforts to bring this to light because without his tenacity, much

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efforts to bring this to light of the short-changed would not have

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bean of the short-changed would not have

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been brought forward. What we do have an do know is that many

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been brought forward. What we do communities across the

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been brought forward. What we do commenities across the vhole

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communities across the whole of Wales have suffered because of the

:10:33.:10:34.

communities across the whole of lack of money rahsed by

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communities across the whole of lack of money raised by the sale

:10:36.:10:36.

communities across the whole of the

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communities across the whole of tha land

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communities across the whole of the land that

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communities across the whole of tha land that your

:10:38.:10:37.

communities across the whole of the land that your Government

:10:38.:10:38.

communities across the whole of undertook, and

:10:39.:10:40.

communities across the whole of undebtook, and therefore

:10:41.:10:40.

communities across the whole of undertook, and therefore vital

:10:41.:10:40.

communities across the whole of regeneration projects will

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communities across the whole of regeneration prohects will not be

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regeneration projects will not be undertaken. You cannot tell

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regeneration projects will not be un`ebtakel. You bannot tell me

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regeneration projects will not be undertaken. You cannot tell me as

:10:46.:10:45.

regeneration projects will not be first minister that you are happy

:10:46.:10:47.

regeneration projects will not be with the turn of

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regeneration projects will not be wiph the turn of events

:10:49.:10:48.

regeneration projects will not be with the turn of events that

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regeneration projects will not be come about by your Government 's

:10:50.:10:54.

actions selling this land so cheaply. The Government did not sell

:10:55.:10:56.

chea`ly. The ovdrnment dad not sell the land. I am not happx with

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chea`ly. The ovdrnment dad not sell the land. I am not happy with what

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chea`ly. The ovdrnment dad not sell has happeled

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chea`ly. The ovdrnment dad not sell has happened but I have to wait for

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the has happened but I have to wait for

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tha anvestigatiols has happened but I have to wait for

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tha investigatiols are the investigations are over because

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invectigations h`ve the investigations are over because

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intectigations h`ve to investigations have to take their

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course. investigations have to take their

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coqrce. Thebe investigations have to take their

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course. There will be opportunity for membeps

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course. There will be opportunity fop membeps to

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course. There will be opportunity for members to raise their

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questions. for members to raise their

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quasdions. Every for members to raise their

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questions. Every time something like for members to raise their

:11:14.:11:14.

this comes about, the Government for members to raise their

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immediately try and close the for members to raise their

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discussion down and we can understand why because it highlights

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discussion down and we can the

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discussion down and we can tha embarpacsing

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discussion down and we can the embarrassing delivery that your

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discussion down and we can Government

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discussion down and we can Gotebnment `as

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discussion down and we can Government has for the people

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discussion down and we can Gotebnment `as for the people nf

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Government has for the people of Wales. Ond

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Government has for the people of Wales. One example,

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Government has for the people of Wales. Ond example, I appreciate

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Wales. One example, I appreciate the former first minister sitting on the

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backbenches but former first minister sitting on the

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backbenchds but he might like to backbenches but he might like to

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listen to t`e backbenches but he might like to

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listen to the questions posed. backbenches but he might like to

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listen to t`e qudstions posed. The backbenches but he might like to

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point backbenches but he might like to

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poind backbenches but he might like to

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point I am making is that backbenches but he might like to

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poind al making as th`t when you point I am making is that when you

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look the land sales, 120 acres were sold for ?1.8 million, the market

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look the land sales, 120 acres were value

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look the land sales, 120 acres were vahue for

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look the land sales, 120 acres were value for that to date could be

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look the land sales, 120 acres were value for that to date bould be as

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look the land sales, 120 acres were much as 100 million.

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look the land sales, 120 acres were much as 120 million. Just think

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look the land sales, 120 acres were yoqr Government

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look the land sales, 120 acres were your Government could do

:12:05.:12:04.

your Govepnment bould dn regenerating communities with that

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level of investment. regenerating communities with that

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level of infestment. Is it not regenerating communities with that

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level of investment. Is it not a fact that t`e

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fact that the fund stands for really fact that the fund stands for really

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incompetelt finalcaal incompetent financial waste that

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your incompetent financial waste that

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yoqr Government incompetent financial waste that

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your Government is presiding incompetent financial waste that

:12:15.:12:17.

yoqr Government hs presidang over your Government is presiding over

:12:18.:12:17.

and at your Government is presiding over

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and it is your Government is presiding over

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and at is a your Government is presiding over

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and it is a damning your Government is presiding over

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and at is a damning shame and it is a damning shame that all

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you can offer today is hide behind and it is a damning shame that all

:12:28.:12:28.

enquiries. and it is a damning shame that all

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enquaries. No wolder thd Labour enquiries. No wonder the Labour

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benches are trying to shout down. Let's have

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benches are trying to shout down. Let'c havd come

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benches are trying to shout down. Let's have some answers! He doesn't

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take decisions, suggest solutions just calls for enquiries all the

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take decisions, suggest solutions time! He raises important issues of

:12:47.:12:52.

course he does time! He raises important issues of

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cource he does il time! He raises important issues of

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and they are being dealt time! He raises important issues of

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and they `re being dealt with by time! He raises important issues of

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and they are being dealt with by way of enquiry, but he would know

:12:58.:12:58.

and they are being dealt with by way of enquiry, but he would cnow that

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Government cannot comment before an Government cannot comment before an

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investigation is over but I would say, Byrol Davies

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say, Byron Davies is the man who say, Byron Davies is the man who

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told members say, Byron Davies is the man who

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tohd membdrc thepe say, Byron Davies is the man who

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tohd membdrc there was a told members there was a ?20 million

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gap an thd told members there was a ?20 million

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gap an the pension told members there was a ?20 million

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gap in the pension scheme of car when airport,

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gap in the pension scheme of car whan airport, rubbash.

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gap in the pension scheme of car when airport, rubbish. It never

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gap in the pension scheme of car existed. Byron Davies

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gap in the pension scheme of car exisded. Byron Davies was also

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gap in the pension scheme of car existed. Byron Davies was also the

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gap in the pension scheme of car man who

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gap in the pension scheme of car mal who last

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gap in the pension scheme of car man who last week said the bedroom

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tax and the evictions caused by man who last week said the bedroom

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Edwabd IV of the Labour man who last week said the bedroom

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Edward IV of the Labour Party. That man who last week said the bedroom

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is what he said! Order! What is the is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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matter with you this is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

:13:41.:13:42.

mapter with you thas afternoon? We is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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now move to the leader nf is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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Cymru is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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Cyire ealne is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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Cymre Lealne Wood. is w`at hd caid! Order! W`at is the

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Cymru Leanne Wood. The health Cymru Leanne ood. The health

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minister Cymru Leanne ood. The health

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milister tells Cymru Leanne ood. The health

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minister tells us that Cymru Leanne ood. The health

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milister tells ur that fewer than 3% minister tells us that fewer than 3%

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of hospital consultants posts are minister tells us that fewer than 3%

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undilled, yet minister tells us that fewer than 3%

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unfilled, yet the BMA tells us that consultants exhaustion is risking

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patient consultants exhaustion is risking

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papient s`fety. consultants exhaustion is risking

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patient safety. Are you confident consultants exhaustion is risking

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that we h`ve consultants exhaustion is risking

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that we have the right consultants exhaustion is risking

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doctors il dhe NHS? The consultants exhaustion is risking

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doctors in the NHS? The basis of that report was on one are named

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consultant. I was that report was on one are named

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colseltant. I was with that report was on one are named

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consultant. I was with a that report was on one are named

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consultants on Saturday cannot one raised this issue with me.

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consultants on Saturday cannot one raised thhs issue with le. The

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raised this issue with me. The complaint

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raised this issue with me. The coiplaint ic thepe

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raised this issue with me. The complaint is there is a lack of

:14:27.:14:26.

raised this issue with me. The middle grade doctors. The Plaid

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raised this issue with me. The Cymre overnment would

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raised this issue with me. The Cymru Government would provide

:14:30.:14:31.

raised this issue with me. The training opportunities to

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training np`ortulities to recruit 1000 additional doctors to help deal

:14:34.:14:34.

with capacity 1000 additional doctors to help deal

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wiph capabidy isrues in the Welsh 1000 additional doctors to help deal

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health service, which you deny exist. Are you telling us that you

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are happy exist. Are you telling us that you

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ara `appy with staffing exist. Are you telling us that you

:14:43.:14:44.

are happy with staffing levels in ara happy wath staffing levels in

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our ara happy wath staffing levels in

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oup hospitals, ara happy wath staffing levels in

:14:45.:14:45.

our hospitals, or ara happy wath staffing levels in

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oup hospitals, op do ara happy wath staffing levels in

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Plaid Cymru's calls for more Plaid Cymru's calls for more

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training `nd Plaid Cymru's calls for more

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training and recruitment? Training more people will not mean more

:14:55.:14:56.

doctors. If you trained doctors they more people will not mean more

:14:57.:14:57.

can travel anywhere in more people will not mean more

:14:58.:15:00.

can dravel anywhdre in the more people will not mean more

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can travel anywhere in the world. more people will not mean more

:15:02.:15:01.

He'll have more people will not mean more

:15:02.:15:02.

He'll havd do recruit more people will not mean more

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He'll have to recruit them and make sure there are opportunities for

:15:03.:15:06.

tham to sure there are opportunities for

:15:07.:15:06.

them to stay in Wales. We have sure there are opportunities for

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tham to staq in Vales. We have put sure there are opportunities for

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forward calls to sure there are opportunities for

:15:12.:15:11.

fopward calls to incentivase sure there are opportunities for

:15:12.:15:13.

doctors to stay here. The sure there are opportunities for

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audit sure there are opportunities for

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au`id office sure there are opportunities for

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audit office is telling us that sure there are opportunities for

:15:16.:15:17.

doctors are overworked sure there are opportunities for

:15:18.:15:18.

doctors ape overworked `nd you sure there are opportunities for

:15:19.:15:18.

doctors are overworked and you were sure there are opportunities for

:15:19.:15:19.

telling sure there are opportunities for

:15:20.:15:19.

tehlang ur sure there are opportunities for

:15:20.:15:21.

telling us that services have to be reorganised because we do not have

:15:22.:15:23.

telling us that services have to be enough specialist staff.

:15:24.:15:25.

telling us that services have to be enough specaalist staff. Will xou

:15:26.:15:26.

enough spdcaalist staff. Will xou accept the

:15:27.:15:26.

enough spdcaalist staff. Will xou acce`t the basic

:15:27.:15:26.

enough spdcaalist staff. Will xou accept the basic principle that we

:15:27.:15:27.

have been pettinf forward accept the basic principle that we

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have been putting forward for some time, that recruiting and training

:15:31.:15:34.

have been putting forward for some 1000 additional doctors in Wales

:15:35.:15:34.

will 1000 additional doctors in Wales

:15:35.:15:35.

wihl improve our 1000 additional doctors in Wales

:15:36.:15:35.

will improve our Welsh health service? Is the evidence

:15:36.:15:42.

will improve our Welsh health that these should be

:15:43.:15:43.

will improve our Welsh health middle grade doctors, as evidence

:15:44.:15:46.

that there was a that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:47.:15:47.

consultants that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:48.:15:47.

colseltants genepally that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:48.:15:48.

consultants generally in? Where that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:49.:15:48.

colseltants genepally in? Where was that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:49.:15:48.

tha evidelce that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:49.:15:50.

the evidence that if that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:51.:15:50.

the evidelce that if you that there gas a s`ortafe of

:15:51.:15:51.

the evidence that if you train people giten

:15:52.:15:51.

the evidence that if you train people given that

:15:52.:15:51.

the evidence that if you train people giten that at

:15:52.:15:51.

the evidence that if you train people given that it is ten years

:15:52.:15:52.

the evidence that if you train people giten that at is ten years to

:15:53.:15:52.

train a concultalt, people giten that at is ten years to

:15:53.:15:53.

train a consultant, that people giten that at is ten years to

:15:54.:15:53.

train a concultalt, that this people giten that at is ten years to

:15:54.:15:54.

train a consultant, that this will hehp?

:15:55.:15:54.

train a consultant, that this will help? The reality is this.

:15:55.:15:57.

train a consultant, that this will hehp? The reality is thhs. We are

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hehp? The reality as thhs. We `re recruiting. I notice

:15:59.:16:04.

hehp? The reality as thhs. We `re of played country asn't darely

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of played country isn't direly silent

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of played country isn't direly sihent on that issue.

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of played country isn't direly silent on that issue. We are

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sihent on that issue. Wd are recruiting more doctors. We are

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ensuring that Wales is ` place that ensuring that Wales is a place that

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doctors will want to come. Does she not realise that in order

:16:20.:16:20.

doctors will want to come. Does she nop bealise that in order tO recruit

:16:21.:16:21.

not realise that in order to recruit more doctors, you have to make

:16:22.:16:24.

not realise that in order to recruit that the training they get is

:16:25.:16:27.

attractive, and without that that the training they get is

:16:28.:16:28.

reconfiguration, that the training they get is

:16:29.:16:28.

reconfigupadion, t`at that the training they get is

:16:29.:16:29.

reconfiguration, that will that the training they get is

:16:30.:16:29.

reconfigupadion, t`at will not reconfiguration, that will not

:16:30.:16:29.

happen, we will not attract more reconfiguration, that will not

:16:30.:16:32.

consultants and middle grade reconfiguration, that will not

:16:33.:16:33.

colseltants and liddle frade dnctors reconfiguration, that will not

:16:34.:16:34.

into reconfiguration, that will not

:16:35.:16:34.

inpo Wales reconfiguration, that will not

:16:35.:16:34.

into Wales at the reconfiguration, that will not

:16:35.:16:35.

opportunities are not there, and reconfiguration, that will not

:16:36.:16:40.

plan opposec the provishon of those facilities. You

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plan opposec the provishon of those without the other. If you're

:16:44.:16:45.

plan opposec the provishon of those wiphout the other. If ynu're picking

:16:46.:16:46.

plan opposec the provishon of those 1000 doctorc out of

:16:47.:16:47.

plan opposec the provishon of those 1000 doctors out of thin air without

:16:48.:16:47.

any evidence to back it up, I 1000 doctors out of thin air without

:16:48.:16:49.

any evidence to `ack it up, I do not any evidence to back it up, I do not

:16:50.:16:49.

believe any evidence to back it up, I do not

:16:50.:16:49.

behieve thad any evidence to back it up, I do not

:16:50.:16:50.

would do that. We will make any evidence to back it up, I do not

:16:51.:16:54.

that the health service as it has bean

:16:55.:16:55.

that the health service as it has been doing,

:16:56.:16:55.

that the health service as it has bean doinf, will go

:16:56.:16:56.

that the health service as it has been doing, will go from

:16:57.:16:56.

that the health service as it has bean doinf, will go from strenfth

:16:57.:16:56.

that the health service as it has been doing, will go from strength to

:16:57.:16:56.

bean doinf, will go from strenfth to strength, and

:16:57.:16:57.

bean doinf, will go from strenfth to stpength, and we will not have cheap

:16:58.:16:59.

bean doinf, will go from strenfth to and uncosted political slogans.

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an` uncosted politacal rlogans. Kirsty Williams. Leader of the Welsh

:17:05.:17:07.

Liberal Democrats. On 26 Febru`ry, Liberal Democrats. On 26 February, I

:17:08.:17:13.

asked you if you would jnow Liberal Democrats. On 26 February, I

:17:14.:17:14.

asked you if you would know if there Liberal Democrats. On 26 February, I

:17:15.:17:15.

was a mid Staffordshire file scandal Liberal Democrats. On 26 February, I

:17:16.:17:20.

going on in the Welsh NHS. You said on that occasion" there was no

:17:21.:17:21.

suggestion on that occasion" there was no

:17:22.:17:21.

suggestiol dhat on that occasion" there was no

:17:22.:17:24.

suggestion that this would happen in Wales". You

:17:25.:17:25.

suggestion that this would happen in Walec". You stand by that

:17:26.:17:26.

Wales". You stand by that answer? Yes. Last week in the health

:17:27.:17:32.

committee I asked the Chief Executive

:17:33.:17:32.

committee I asked the Chief Exacetive of

:17:33.:17:32.

committee I asked the Chief Execetive of healt`

:17:33.:17:32.

committee I asked the Chief Executive of health Inspectorate

:17:33.:17:35.

Wales, the inspector and regulator of health care in Wales, whether

:17:36.:17:37.

Wales, the inspector and regulator would

:17:38.:17:38.

Wales, the inspector and regulator woqld know af

:17:39.:17:38.

Wales, the inspector and regulator would know if there

:17:39.:17:38.

Wales, the inspector and regulator woqld know af thdre was a

:17:39.:17:39.

Wales, the inspector and regulator would know if there was a mid

:17:40.:17:39.

Wales, the inspector and regulator Staffordshibe style scandal going on

:17:40.:17:41.

in Wales, and she said thas, Staffordshibe style scandal going on

:17:42.:17:42.

in Wales, and she said this, " I am Staffordshibe style scandal going on

:17:43.:17:42.

not convinced we have Staffordshibe style scandal going on

:17:43.:17:43.

nop convilced we have stfficient not convinced we have sufficient

:17:44.:17:46.

coverage not convinced we have sufficient

:17:47.:17:46.

covebage hn testing not convinced we have sufficient

:17:47.:17:46.

cotebage hn testing to not convinced we have sufficient

:17:47.:17:47.

coverage in testing to give you that not convinced we have sufficient

:17:48.:17:50.

assurance. " If your own Inspectorate canlot givd

:17:51.:17:51.

assurance. " If your own Inspectorate cannot give that

:17:52.:17:52.

assurance, how on Inspectorate cannot give that

:17:53.:17:53.

assubance, `ow on earth can you? We assurance, how on earth can you? We

:17:54.:17:56.

monitor assurance, how on earth can you? We

:17:57.:17:57.

monidor whad assurance, how on earth can you? We

:17:58.:17:57.

monitor whad the assurance, how on earth can you? We

:17:58.:17:58.

monitor what the health boards are doing, as does the Minister, on a

:17:59.:18:00.

day-do-dax doing, as does the Minister, on a

:18:01.:18:01.

day-to-day aces and we are looking to strength -- strengthen the health

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Inspectorate, but that thas not Inspectorate, but that this not mean

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that there gas a mad Inspectorate, but that this not mean

:18:07.:18:09.

that there was a mid Staffordshire sipuation in Wales.

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that there was a mid Staffordshire situation in Wales. You cannot

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extrapolate situation in Wales. You cannot

:18:11.:18:10.

exprapolate one drom situation in Wales. You cannot

:18:11.:18:11.

extrapolate one drom thd situation in Wales. You cannot

:18:12.:18:11.

extrapolate one from the other. I situation in Wales. You cannot

:18:12.:18:14.

not for one second implying situation in Wales. You cannot

:18:15.:18:15.

not for ole second implying th`t not for one second implying that

:18:16.:18:15.

there not for one second implying that

:18:16.:18:15.

thare was not for one second implying that

:18:16.:18:17.

there was a mid Staffordshire situation happening in the Welsh

:18:18.:18:19.

NHS, but I think situation happening in the Welsh

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NHS, but H dhink t`e people of Wales situation happening in the Welsh

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would situation happening in the Welsh

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woqld be ha`pier if situation happening in the Welsh

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would be happier if we could be sure situation happening in the Welsh

:18:22.:18:23.

that we have the right systems and situation happening in the Welsh

:18:24.:18:25.

procedures in place to spot a crisis procedures an place to rpot a brisis

:18:26.:18:28.

like mid procedures an place to rpot a brisis

:18:29.:18:31.

too late. They say they should be procedures an place to rpot a brisis

:18:32.:18:35.

visiting every procedures an place to rpot a brisis

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visiding dvery community procedures an place to rpot a brisis

:18:36.:18:36.

visiting every community hospital once every dhree years.

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visiting every community hospital once every three years. In

:18:37.:18:37.

visiting every community hospital once every dhree years. In fact thEy

:18:38.:18:38.

once every three years. In fact they only

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once every three years. In fact they onhy do it once

:18:39.:18:39.

once every three years. In fact they only do it once every five

:18:40.:18:39.

once every three years. In fact they onhy do it once dvery five years.

:18:40.:18:42.

only do it once every five years. Our biggest hospitals have it more

:18:43.:18:44.

only do it once every five years. than that. They can only get round

:18:45.:18:47.

only do it once every five years. tham one hn every three years. Is

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only do it once every five years. them one in every three years. Is it

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not dime them one in every three years. Is it

:18:50.:18:49.

not time for the Welsh them one in every three years. Is it

:18:50.:18:51.

not dime dob the Welsh fovernmdnt to not time for the Welsh government to

:18:52.:18:54.

take action to ensure that firstly, this body has a proper statutory,

:18:55.:18:56.

take action to ensure that firstly, independent

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take action to ensure that firstly, in`e`endelt setting,

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take action to ensure that firstly, independent setting, arm's-length

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take action to ensure that firstly, in`e`endelt setting, arm's-lenfth Of

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take action to ensure that firstly, government and its resource and has

:19:01.:19:01.

take action to ensure that firstly, personnel and is managed to carry

:19:02.:19:04.

take action to ensure that firstly, out

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take action to ensure that firstly, oup dhe khnd of

:19:05.:19:05.

take action to ensure that firstly, out the kind of inspection routine

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that they would like out the kind of inspection routine

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that they would lice to, out the kind of inspection routine

:19:07.:19:09.

that they would like to, to be out the kind of inspection routine

:19:10.:19:09.

critical out the kind of inspection routine

:19:10.:19:10.

critacal draend out the kind of inspection routine

:19:11.:19:10.

critical friend that out the kind of inspection routine

:19:11.:19:10.

critacal draend that thd out the kind of inspection routine

:19:11.:19:11.

critical friend that the Welsh NHS and the

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critical friend that the Welsh NHS an` dhe Wdlch

:19:13.:19:12.

critical friend that the Welsh NHS and the Welsh public need.

:19:13.:19:15.

critical friend that the Welsh NHS an` dhe Wdlch pu`lac need. That has

:19:16.:19:16.

and the Welsh public need. That has been done. That you see the subtle

:19:17.:19:17.

and the Welsh public need. That has change in emphasis? She did

:19:18.:19:20.

insinuate that there was a mid change in emphasis? She did

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Staffordshire type crisis in waiting in t`e

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Staffordshire type crisis in waiting in the Welsh

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Staffordshire type crisis in waiting in t`e Wels` healt` service. That is

:19:28.:19:28.

in the Welsh health service. That is exactly what she

:19:29.:19:29.

in the Welsh health service. That is exacdly whad she said. Rtand

:19:30.:19:30.

in the Welsh health service. That is exactly what she said. Stand by

:19:31.:19:30.

in the Welsh health service. That is exacdly whad she said. Rtand bx what

:19:31.:19:31.

exactly what she said. Stand by what you

:19:32.:19:31.

exactly what she said. Stand by what yoq mean nr othepwase wit`draw that

:19:32.:19:32.

exactly what she said. Stand by what suggestion. The health

:19:33.:19:36.

suggestiol. The health linister is looking at the health

:19:37.:19:36.

looking at dhe hdalth Inspectorate for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:37.:19:39.

strengthen the health Inspectorate. for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:40.:19:41.

There is for Wales, looking at ways to

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Thare is no suggestion hn for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:43.:19:42.

There is no suggestion in Wales that for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:43.:19:43.

there is a mid for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:44.:19:44.

situation, regardless of what the for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:45.:19:46.

Liberal Democrats say. for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:47.:19:49.

Li`ebal Democrats say. Can for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:50.:19:50.

Liberal Democrats say. Can I clarify for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:51.:19:50.

what I said? It was, on 26 February, for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:51.:19:54.

I asc you if you would jnow if for Wales, looking at ways to

:19:55.:19:56.

there was for Wales, looking at ways to

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thare was a scandal. That is what I thare was a scandal. Th`t is what I

:19:59.:20:01.

said. You can check the said. You can check the record. I

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said. You can chdck the record. said. You can check the record. I

:20:03.:20:03.

did not say said. You can check the record. I

:20:04.:20:03.

di` not s`y there was. said. You can check the record. I

:20:04.:20:04.

did not say there was. I asked said. You can check the record. I

:20:05.:20:04.

di` not s`y there was. H asked you if there was, and it is clear from

:20:05.:20:07.

this answer that you would have no this answer that you would havd no

:20:08.:20:09.

this answer that you would have no idea. Once again,

:20:10.:20:10.

this answer that you would have no idaa. Once again, I say,

:20:11.:20:12.

this answer that you would have no idea. Once again, I say, do not

:20:13.:20:15.

insinuate that there is a mid Staffordshibe

:20:16.:20:15.

insinuate that there is a mid Staffordshire style crisis in the

:20:16.:20:17.

insinuate that there is a mid Welsh health service. That is what

:20:18.:20:19.

insinuate that there is a mid you

:20:20.:20:20.

insinuate that there is a mid yoq did. Do not pretend t`at is not

:20:21.:20:22.

what you are trying to suggest, because it is. Have you finished,

:20:23.:20:29.

First Minister? I give you the opportunity. What representations

:20:30.:20:35.

that the first opportunity. What representations

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that the dibst list opportunity. What representations

:20:37.:20:36.

that the first list make at the opportunity. What representations

:20:37.:20:39.

recent joint ministerial meeting? I recent joind minhsterial meeting? I

:20:40.:20:42.

made recent joind minhsterial meeting? I

:20:43.:20:42.

ma`e representations recent joind minhsterial meeting? I

:20:43.:20:42.

made representations on a number recent joind minhsterial meeting? I

:20:43.:20:46.

issues, on the issue of the recent joind minhsterial meeting? I

:20:47.:20:47.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom tax, on the issue of what

:20:48.:20:49.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom described as the health

:20:50.:20:52.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom descbibed ac the health levy on

:20:53.:20:52.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom those who wish

:20:53.:20:53.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom those who wash to obtain

:20:54.:20:53.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom those who wish to obtain visas to

:20:54.:20:53.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom enter

:20:54.:20:54.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom enteb the

:20:55.:20:55.

issues, ol dhe issue of t`e bedroom enter the UK and on the state of

:20:56.:20:57.

enter the UC and on the state nf relations between

:20:58.:20:57.

enter the UC and on the state nf relations betweel the dhfferent

:20:58.:20:58.

governments relations betweel the dhfferent

:20:59.:20:58.

goternments of relations betweel the dhfferent

:20:59.:20:58.

governments of the relations betweel the dhfferent

:20:59.:21:01.

goternments of the UK. I relations betweel the dhfferent

:21:02.:21:01.

governments of the UK. I am relations betweel the dhfferent

:21:02.:21:02.

delighted to hear that you relations betweel the dhfferent

:21:03.:21:03.

delighted to heap that you raise the delighted to heap that xou raise the

:21:04.:21:03.

bedroom delighted to heap that xou raise the

:21:04.:21:03.

be`room tax delighted to heap that xou raise the

:21:04.:21:03.

bedroom tax with the Prime Minister. bedroom tax with t`e Prime Minhster.

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Will you tell us, what did he bedroom tax with t`e Prime Minhster.

:21:06.:21:08.

Will you tell us, what did He say bedroom tax with t`e Prime Minhster.

:21:09.:21:09.

dedence od dhis rpateful bedroom tax with t`e Prime Minhster.

:21:10.:21:09.

defence of this spiteful policy? He dedence od dhis rpateful policy? He

:21:10.:21:10.

had no defence. I said ve had a had no defence. I said we had a

:21:11.:21:14.

sipuation had no defence. I said we had a

:21:15.:21:15.

situation in Wales where people woqld be

:21:16.:21:15.

situation in Wales where people would be dvicted,

:21:16.:21:15.

situation in Wales where people would be evicted, potentially,

:21:16.:21:18.

situation in Wales where people because the number of one bed

:21:19.:21:22.

accommodation was not available to tha

:21:23.:21:22.

accommodation was not available to the extent

:21:23.:21:23.

accommodation was not available to tha extent it should

:21:24.:21:25.

the extent it should be, and that people in rural Wales would have to

:21:26.:21:26.

leave the vallagds people in rural Wales would have to

:21:27.:21:27.

leave the vallages in people in rural Wales would have to

:21:28.:21:27.

leave the villages in which they had people in rural Wales would have to

:21:28.:21:29.

with all people in rural Wales would have to

:21:30.:21:30.

wiph all nf theip lives, people in rural Wales would have to

:21:31.:21:31.

with all of their lives, having to with all nf theip lives, `avinf to

:21:32.:21:31.

move up to 50 miles away mote up to %0 miles awax from their

:21:32.:21:33.

place of de`loymdnt, mote up to %0 miles awax from their

:21:34.:21:34.

place of deployment, purely because place of de`loymdnt, purely because

:21:35.:21:35.

they have place of de`loymdnt, purely because

:21:36.:21:36.

thay have to move to towns place of de`loymdnt, purely because

:21:37.:21:37.

they have to move to towns and away from the tillages

:21:38.:21:38.

they have to move to towns and away from the villages they have lived

:21:39.:21:38.

they have to move to towns and away from the tillages they have lived in

:21:39.:21:39.

they have to move to towns and away all of their

:21:40.:21:39.

they have to move to towns and away all of thdib lives.

:21:40.:21:40.

they have to move to towns and away all of their lives. He had no

:21:41.:21:41.

they have to move to towns and away all of thdib lives. He had no `nswer

:21:42.:21:42.

they have to move to towns and away to it. The answer

:21:43.:21:42.

they have to move to towns and away to id. The answep I

:21:43.:21:42.

they have to move to towns and away to it. The answer I was given was

:21:43.:21:43.

they have to move to towns and away that in some cities there was plenty

:21:44.:21:44.

they have to move to towns and away of accommodation, but that never

:21:45.:21:46.

of accommndation, but that nevdr existed

:21:47.:21:46.

of accommndation, but that nevdr exisded in

:21:47.:21:47.

of accommndation, but that nevdr existed in Wales.

:21:48.:21:47.

of accommndation, but that nevdr exisded il Gales, And

:21:48.:21:47.

of accommndation, but that nevdr existed in Wales. And for that

:21:48.:21:50.

exisded il Gales, And for that Lib Dems

:21:51.:21:51.

exisded il Gales, And for that Lib Deis to s`y

:21:52.:21:51.

exisded il Gales, And for that Lib Dems to say that this is the fault

:21:52.:21:52.

exisded il Gales, And for that Lib of t`e

:21:53.:21:52.

exisded il Gales, And for that Lib of the Labour Party, they are

:21:53.:21:53.

of t`e La`oer Paptq, thdy are raying that not dnough

:21:54.:21:55.

of t`e La`oer Paptq, thdy are raying that not enough houses have been

:21:56.:21:56.

build in Apbil that not enough houses have been

:21:57.:21:56.

built in April and October. It is build in @pbil ald October. It is

:21:57.:22:02.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not try to blame other parties, a

:22:03.:22:03.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not try do blame other parties, a stood

:22:04.:22:03.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not up for a policy he believed then,

:22:04.:22:06.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not unlike the Welsh Tories who,

:22:07.:22:07.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not unhike thd Gelsh Tories w`o, when

:22:08.:22:07.

pathetic. The Prime Minister did not people are evicted, it is a policy

:22:08.:22:09.

people are evicted, it hs a policy they themselves supported, will say

:22:10.:22:12.

to people who have been to people w`o hate been evicted,

:22:13.:22:16.

sorry about the bedroom tax, it is tha

:22:17.:22:17.

sorry about the bedroom tax, it is the fault of the Labour Party. I

:22:18.:22:20.

have never heard anything quite so paphetic.

:22:21.:22:20.

have never heard anything quite so pathetic. I have never heard a party

:22:21.:22:23.

have never heard anything quite so run away so quickly from a policy

:22:24.:22:26.

that they t`emselves purport to run away so quickly from a policy

:22:27.:22:27.

support. I received run away so quickly from a policy

:22:28.:22:30.

support. H beceited no ratisfactory run away so quickly from a policy

:22:31.:22:31.

answer on t`is run away so quickly from a policy

:22:32.:22:32.

answer on this from the Prime run away so quickly from a policy

:22:33.:22:37.

Minister. Did he have any Milister. Did he have any

:22:38.:22:40.

opportunity to raise what is Milister. Did he have any

:22:41.:22:42.

happening to the Severn Bridge tolls Milister. Did he have any

:22:43.:22:43.

at the end of the Milister. Did he have any

:22:44.:22:47.

a matter of regular dialogue between Milister. Did he have any

:22:48.:22:49.

ourselves and Milister. Did he have any

:22:50.:22:49.

oupselves and thd Department Milister. Did he have any

:22:50.:22:53.

Transport. The opposition is clear. We wash

:22:54.:22:54.

Transport. The opposition is clear. We wish to see the

:22:55.:22:54.

Transport. The opposition is clear. We wash to see the tolls controlled

:22:55.:22:55.

We wish to see the tolls controlled from Wales. The last thing we want

:22:56.:22:57.

to see is the tolls being set by an from Wales. The last thing we want

:22:58.:23:00.

controlled by the department based contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:01.:23:02.

in Whitehall for a provision that is contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:03.:23:06.

a vital contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:07.:23:07.

a vidal aptery ilto contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:08.:23:07.

a vital artery into South Wales. The contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:08.:23:10.

First Minister contbolled by thd department b`sed

:23:11.:23:12.

First Minhsder that the First Minister that the joint

:23:13.:23:12.

minicterial First Minister that the joint

:23:13.:23:12.

ministerial committee, although the First Minister that the joint

:23:13.:23:15.

representatives First Minister that the joint

:23:16.:23:16.

representataves drom First Minister that the joint

:23:17.:23:16.

representatives from across the UK representataves drom across thd UK

:23:17.:23:17.

come together and look at the assets representataves drom across thd UK

:23:18.:23:19.

of the UK. We have seen a representataves drom across thd UK

:23:20.:23:21.

scenes coming out representataves drom across thd UK

:23:22.:23:22.

scanes coming out of representataves drom across thd UK

:23:23.:23:23.

with the damage inflicted representataves drom across thd UK

:23:24.:23:24.

with the damage hnflicted by the wiph the damage hnflicted by the

:23:25.:23:24.

typhoon. Are you aware that wiph the damage hnflicted by the

:23:25.:23:28.

are any mechanisms that are any mdc`anisls that committee

:23:29.:23:29.

can enact that can assets from around the UK and that

:23:30.:23:34.

Wahec can assets from around the UK and that

:23:35.:23:34.

Wales can play its part in Wahec can play its part in

:23:35.:23:35.

supporting Wahec can play its part in

:23:36.:23:35.

supportinf come Wahec can play its part in

:23:36.:23:36.

supporting some of the supportinf come nf the bommunities

:23:37.:23:39.

who have found devastation on their doorcteps

:23:40.:23:39.

who have found devastation on their doorsteps in the Philippines.

:23:40.:23:41.

who have found devastation on their through the

:23:42.:23:41.

who have found devastation on their throegh the J C.

:23:42.:23:43.

who have found devastation on their through the JNC. We have been

:23:44.:23:44.

thpoegh the J C. We havd been appalled `y

:23:45.:23:45.

thpoegh the J C. We havd been appalled by the scenes that

:23:46.:23:46.

thpoegh the J C. We havd been been witnessed in the

:23:47.:23:48.

thpoegh the J C. We havd been bean witndsced il the Philippines. I

:23:49.:23:49.

thpoegh the J C. We havd been welcome the commitment that was

:23:50.:23:53.

given by the UK Government to contbibute,

:23:54.:23:53.

given by the UK Government to contribute, it has contributed ?10

:23:54.:23:55.

given by the UK Government to millaon to dhe disaster

:23:56.:23:55.

given by the UK Government to million to the disaster emergency

:23:56.:23:55.

fund. I have urged million to the disaster emergency

:23:56.:23:59.

fuld. I have urged people in million to the disaster emergency

:24:00.:24:01.

to contribute, to help their fellow German beings in the Philippines --

:24:02.:24:05.

Gepman beings in t`e Phhlappinds -- fellow human beings in the

:24:06.:24:06.

Philappinds fellow human beings in the

:24:07.:24:07.

Philippines but that, the GMC hs not fellow human beings in the

:24:08.:24:14.

where that type of discussion takes place, but there are other wayr that

:24:15.:24:16.

place, but there are other ways that we work together in the UK to

:24:17.:24:20.

provade we work together in the UK to

:24:21.:24:21.

provide financial resources and expebtise

:24:22.:24:21.

provide financial resources and expertise and that has been done

:24:22.:24:22.

provide financial resources and with the Welsh Wales Fire Brigade in

:24:23.:24:23.

tha the past, to countries that need

:24:24.:24:26.

that expertise. The Tories the past, to countries that need

:24:27.:24:31.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd bedroom tax. In that meeting, that

:24:32.:24:35.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd the Prime

:24:36.:24:35.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd the @rime Minister

:24:36.:24:36.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd the Prime Minister make any

:24:37.:24:36.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd on t`e

:24:37.:24:37.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd on the report of

:24:38.:24:37.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd on t`e repobt of t`e Welsh affairs

:24:38.:24:38.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd committee and the comment in

:24:39.:24:40.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd particular of

:24:41.:24:40.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd partaculap of Datid

:24:41.:24:40.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd papticulap of Datid Davhes

:24:41.:24:42.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd particular of David Davies MP, Chair

:24:43.:24:43.

Dems will be voting to jeep thd of that committee, that the bedroom

:24:44.:24:44.

tax isn't working? I have described of that committee, that the bedroom

:24:45.:24:51.

what the Prime Minaster said. He what the Prime Minister said. He

:24:52.:24:52.

approaches this issue what the Prime Minister said. He

:24:53.:24:52.

approaches dhis issue on the b`sis approaches dhis hssue on the b`sis

:24:53.:24:53.

that there was plenty of that there gas plenty of

:24:54.:24:56.

accommodation out there, of all sizes,

:24:57.:24:57.

accommodation out there, of all sizec, and it

:24:58.:24:57.

accommodation out there, of all sizes, and it is a particularly

:24:58.:25:05.

sixec, and it is a particularly metropolitan and London-centric

:25:06.:25:08.

sixec, and it is a particularly of how accommodation is provided.

:25:09.:25:10.

sixec, and it is a particularly This is a spiteful policy, aimed at

:25:11.:25:13.

tha This is a spiteful policy, aimed at

:25:14.:25:14.

the low pay, forcing people to move This is a spiteful policy, aimed at

:25:15.:25:15.

further away from This is a spiteful policy, aimed at

:25:16.:25:15.

fupther away from where This is a spiteful policy, aimed at

:25:16.:25:17.

further away from where they work, thay

:25:18.:25:17.

further away from where they work, they will need to be evicted through

:25:18.:25:19.

no fault nf their they will need to be evicted through

:25:20.:25:20.

no fault of their own, while, at they will need to be evicted through

:25:21.:25:21.

same they will need to be evicted through

:25:22.:25:21.

saie time, they will need to be evicted through

:25:22.:25:22.

same time, they failed to defend saie time, dhey daaled to defend

:25:23.:25:25.

that policy in the media. That shows how much of a mess the Welsh

:25:26.:25:28.

Conservatives are an. Will the First how much of a mess the Welsh

:25:29.:25:34.

Minister make statement regarding the plans proposed by the health

:25:35.:25:40.

board to delay orthopaedic surgery this coming winter? It is six boring

:25:41.:25:45.

proposal to make sure it is prepared this coming winter? It is six boring

:25:46.:25:47.

for the winter. One plan is planned fop dhe winder. Nne plan as planned

:25:48.:25:52.

reduction fop dhe winder. Nne plan as planned

:25:53.:25:52.

re`uction some fop dhe winder. Nne plan as planned

:25:53.:25:55.

That one option fop dhe winder. Nne plan as planned

:25:56.:25:56.

That one npdion has not That one option has not been relayed

:25:57.:25:57.

to some That one option has not been relayed

:25:58.:26:00.

bedobe the recesr. The health before thd becesr. The health

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Minister before thd becesr. The health

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Minicter `nd before thd becesr. The health

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Minister and yourself were backing this process and the

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Minister and yourself were backing went as far as to commend

:26:07.:26:08.

Minister and yourself were backing welt as far as to commend the health

:26:09.:26:08.

went as far as to commend the health board and how it had consulted and

:26:09.:26:09.

engaged ol board and how it had consulted and

:26:10.:26:11.

engaged on the options that it put forward. I have

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engaged on the options that it put forward. H `ave `een

:26:14.:26:13.

engaged on the options that it put forward. I have been made aware by

:26:14.:26:15.

forward. H `ave `een made aware by GPs an Machynlleth

:26:16.:26:16.

forward. H `ave `een made aware by GPs in Machynlleth that they knew

:26:17.:26:18.

forward. H `ave `een made aware by nothing about

:26:19.:26:18.

forward. H `ave `een made aware by nophing about thd `ealth board plaNs

:26:19.:26:19.

forward. H `ave `een made aware by other than from the

:26:20.:26:21.

other thal from the local media after

:26:22.:26:21.

other thal from the local media afpeb the

:26:22.:26:22.

other thal from the local media after the event and to this

:26:23.:26:24.

other thal from the local media afper the efent `nd to thas day,

:26:25.:26:24.

other thal from the local media they still have not

:26:25.:26:25.

other thal from the local media they still `ave lot been

:26:26.:26:26.

other thal from the local media by t`e

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other thal from the local media by the health board. A wider

:26:28.:26:28.

by t`e healdh board. A vider investigation shows that GPs

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by t`e healdh board. A vider Powys have not been informed.

:26:35.:26:35.

by t`e healdh board. A vider Powys havd not been informed. Do you

:26:36.:26:36.

by t`e healdh board. A vider thinc it is acceptable that thdy'll

:26:37.:26:37.

think it is acceptable that they'll board has filled

:26:38.:26:38.

think it is acceptable that they'll board has falled t`e consult

:26:39.:26:38.

think it is acceptable that they'll board has filled the consult or

:26:39.:26:39.

think it is acceptable that they'll inform you on

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think it is acceptable that they'll indobm you on thhs area,

:26:40.:26:42.

inform you on this area, ignoring GPs and stakeholders in Powys, and

:26:43.:26:46.

inform you on this area, ignoring are you still prefer to back their

:26:47.:26:48.

inform you on this area, ignoring handling of the process? These plans

:26:49.:26:52.

inform you on this area, ignoring are important and now well-known.

:26:53.:26:55.

inform you on this area, ignoring is important to

:26:56.:26:55.

inform you on this area, ignoring is importand to peemphasise

:26:56.:26:56.

inform you on this area, ignoring is important to reemphasise the

:26:57.:26:56.

is importand to peempharise thd clear and unequivocal instructions

:26:57.:26:57.

is importand to peempharise thd issued by the medical directorate

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and issued by the medical directorate

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an` dhe issued by the medical directorate

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and the operations director that no and dhe opebatiols director th`t no

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operations and dhe opebatiols director th`t no

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operationr currently oparationr curreltly booked in as

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part of this initiative are to oparationr curreltly booked in as

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cancelled, and also, I `m assured cancelled, and also, I am assured

:27:06.:27:08.

that all cancer, urgent, cancelled, and also, I am assured

:27:09.:27:13.

that all bancer, urgent, and that all cancer, urgent, and

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orthopaedic that all cancer, urgent, and

:27:14.:27:13.

orphopaedic day that all cancer, urgent, and

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orthopaedic day surgery that all cancer, urgent, and

:27:15.:27:14.

continue during this period if this that all cancer, urgent, and

:27:15.:27:17.

option is adopted. It is important to pet

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option is adopted. It is important to put that on the

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TRANSLATION: to mention a TRANSL TION2 to lention a

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TRANSLATION: to mention a constituent who had

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TRANSLATION: to mention a colstituent who had a

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TRANSLATION: to mention a constituent who had a letter

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cancellinf constituent who had a letter

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cancelling a pre constituent who had a letter

:27:31.:27:33.

cancellinf a pre op appointment. constituent who had a letter

:27:34.:27:34.

cancelling a pre op appointment. Two constituent who had a letter

:27:35.:27:36.

constituents of mine have turned up for an appoantmelt,

:27:37.:27:41.

constituents of mine have turned up for an appointment, only to have

:27:42.:27:41.

constituents of mine have turned up their

:27:42.:27:41.

constituents of mine have turned up thaib surgeon

:27:42.:27:42.

constituents of mine have turned up their surgeon tell them

:27:43.:27:47.

theib surgeon tell them t`at their pre med as gell `s

:27:48.:27:48.

theib surgeon tell them t`at their pre med as well as the operation

:27:49.:27:49.

will be pre med as well as the operation

:27:50.:27:49.

wihl be ddlayed pre med as well as the operation

:27:50.:27:49.

will be delayed until April. pre med as well as the operation

:27:50.:27:52.

does not sound like a consultation, pre med as well as the operation

:27:53.:27:55.

or business as usual, in the health pre med as well as the operation

:27:56.:27:56.

boards, so can you return to the boards, sn can ynu return to the

:27:57.:27:59.

health boards, sn can ynu return to the

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healdh board, boards, sn can ynu return to the

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health board, the reality on the ground sounds very different to this

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ground sounds vepy different to this situation facing my constituents.

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sipuation facing mq conrtatuents. Will

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sipuation facing mq conrtatuents. Wihl he

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sipuation facing mq conrtatuents. Will he return to the health board

:28:12.:28:12.

an` Will he return to the health board

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and ask how much surgery they are Will he return to the health board

:28:13.:28:15.

carrying out at present during this Will he return to the health board

:28:16.:28:16.

consultation period, and also, how Will he return to the health board

:28:17.:28:23.

many letters delaying pre meds they are assuilg

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many letters delaying pre meds they are issuing to patients. Without

:28:24.:28:30.

evidence it is difficult to answer are issuing to patients. Without

:28:31.:28:31.

tha auestion. are issuing to patients. Without

:28:32.:28:31.

the question. I have not are issuing to patients. Without

:28:32.:28:32.

letter to their constituents. are issuing to patients. Without

:28:33.:28:34.

letter to their bonstituents. H are issuing to patients. Without

:28:35.:28:35.

lepter to t`eir bonstituents. H -- are issuing to patients. Without

:28:36.:28:36.

letter to their bonstituents. H -- I are issuing to patients. Without

:28:37.:28:36.

think are issuing to patients. Without

:28:37.:28:36.

thinc it hs very important with are issuing to patients. Without

:28:37.:28:41.

regard to the doctors themselves, that they know exactly

:28:42.:28:44.

regard to the doctors themselves, sipuation ic. If t`ere

:28:45.:28:45.

regard to the doctors themselves, situation is. If there is a way to

:28:46.:28:45.

provide more evidence to the situation is. If there is a way to

:28:46.:28:47.

Government, we would be prepared situation is. If there is a way to

:28:48.:28:51.

consider these considerations but it is importand

:28:52.:28:52.

consider these considerations but it is important that

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consider these considerations but it is importand that we see

:28:53.:28:52.

consider these considerations but it is important that we see that

:28:53.:28:52.

evidence. Question five, is important that we see that

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Graham. Will the Farst Linister Graham. Will the First Minister

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ouplaned gofernmdnt actions Graham. Will the First Minister

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sure that production of Jammy Dodgers remains in Wales. There is

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no threat at this stage to Dodgers remains in Wales. There is

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production of Jammy Dodgers or any other bisbuits

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production of Jammy Dodgers or any other biscuits manufactured here. We

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production of Jammy Dodgers or any know that Burtons biscuits have been

:29:20.:29:23.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been offered

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know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been offebed for

:29:24.:29:23.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been offered for sale and we would be

:29:24.:29:26.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been happy to

:29:27.:29:27.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been happq to engage vith anx prospdctive

:29:28.:29:27.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been new owners. It is a question

:29:28.:29:36.

know that Bertonr biscuhts havd been Burtons biscuits, the company has

:29:37.:29:37.

been Burtons biscuits, the company has

:29:38.:29:38.

bean there Burtons biscuits, the company has

:29:39.:29:39.

been there since 1937, employing over 800 people, a profitable

:29:40.:29:42.

company thad has seen over 800 people, a profitable

:29:43.:29:44.

company that has seen years of over 800 people, a profitable

:29:45.:29:46.

steady growth and a company with a long

:29:47.:29:47.

steady growth and a company with a lolg establashed

:29:48.:29:47.

steady growth and a company with a long established record of

:29:48.:29:48.

steady growth and a company with a lolg establashed record of equ`l pAy

:29:49.:29:48.

steady growth and a company with a and equal opportunities. I will ask

:29:49.:29:50.

the First Minister, and equal opportunities. I will ask

:29:51.:29:53.

the First Manister, should his officials

:29:54.:29:53.

the First Manister, should his ofdicials be engaged by potential

:29:54.:29:56.

officials be engaged by potential buyebs th`t

:29:57.:29:56.

officials be engaged by potential buyers that they

:29:57.:29:57.

officials be engaged by potential buyebs th`t they engage this

:29:58.:29:57.

officials be engaged by potential buyers that they engage this very

:29:58.:29:57.

impobtant buyers that they engage this very

:29:58.:29:57.

important company. buyers that they engage this very

:29:58.:30:00.

important companx. The lember buyers that they engage this very

:30:01.:30:01.

are buyers that they engage this very

:30:02.:30:01.

ara at buyers that they engage this very

:30:02.:30:04.

are at one on this. It is a time of uncebtainty

:30:05.:30:06.

are at one on this. It is a time of uncertainty when any manufacturing

:30:07.:30:07.

are at one on this. It is a time of facility is offered

:30:08.:30:07.

are at one on this. It is a time of facility hs offeped for

:30:08.:30:07.

are at one on this. It is a time of facility is offered for sale.

:30:08.:30:09.

are at one on this. It is a time of facility hs offeped for sale. Ve

:30:10.:30:09.

are at one on this. It is a time of will be closely monitoring the

:30:10.:30:10.

situation to make sure that a new will be closely monitoring the

:30:11.:30:12.

eye is found, and the buyer that will be closely monitoring the

:30:13.:30:15.

wishes to continue will be closely monitoring the

:30:16.:30:15.

wishes to continte prodtction will be closely monitoring the

:30:16.:30:16.

wishes to continte production as wishes to continue production as it

:30:17.:30:16.

is and hopefully expanding fuchsia. wishes to continue production as it

:30:17.:30:20.

-- expand wishes to continue production as it

:30:21.:30:20.

-- eppand in wishes to continue production as it

:30:21.:30:24.

-- expand in future. You will be wishes to continue production as it

:30:25.:30:25.

aware that Paul Murphy wishes to continue production as it

:30:26.:30:26.

aware that @aul Murphy and wishes to continue production as it

:30:27.:30:27.

together with trade union wishes to continue production as it

:30:28.:30:27.

togedher vith trade union colleaguEs wishes to continue production as it

:30:28.:30:29.

visited the factory earlier this year to see the ?6 million

:30:30.:30:32.

year to sde the "6 million investment that has taken place to

:30:33.:30:34.

year to sde the "6 million modernise production. Clearly, the

:30:35.:30:36.

fact that t`e modernise production. Clearly, the

:30:37.:30:37.

fact that the company is up for modernise production. Clearly, the

:30:38.:30:38.

means modernise production. Clearly, the

:30:39.:30:38.

meanc thepe modernise production. Clearly, the

:30:39.:30:40.

means there was an element of uncertainty and it is rig`t

:30:41.:30:41.

means there was an element of uncertainty and it is right that

:30:42.:30:42.

means there was an element of monitor the situataon

:30:43.:30:43.

means there was an element of monitor the situation closely, but

:30:44.:30:43.

means there was an element of isn't it always the case that

:30:44.:30:44.

means there was an element of isn't it `lgays the casd that ve

:30:45.:30:45.

means there was an element of must avoid talkilg down t`e

:30:46.:30:47.

means there was an element of of the plant, given

:30:48.:30:49.

means there was an element of investment that

:30:50.:30:49.

means there was an element of intectment that ve

:30:50.:30:49.

means there was an element of investment that we have seen there

:30:50.:30:50.

means there was an element of in recent years? We have

:30:51.:31:05.

means there was an element of in recent years? We havd to waht aNd

:31:06.:31:06.

in recent years? We have to wait and sea. We

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in recent years? We have to wait and see. We would encourage

:31:08.:31:08.

in recent years? We have to wait and to come forward and we

:31:09.:31:11.

in recent years? We have to wait and we can to help them and those that

:31:12.:31:12.

we can to help them and t`ose that work at the facility.

:31:13.:31:17.

we can to help them and t`ose that wopk at the facility. Whll

:31:18.:31:19.

we can to help them and t`ose that a statemelt on hnw

:31:20.:31:21.

we can to help them and t`ose that powebs for dhe Welsh

:31:22.:31:21.

we can to help them and t`ose that powers for the Welsh Government

:31:22.:31:22.

could lead to improvements for the a powers for the Welsh Government

:31:23.:31:29.

55. I welcome the UK Government's commitment to

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55. I welcome the UK Government's commitment do ensure

:31:31.:31:30.

55. I welcome the UK Government's commitment to ensure we

:31:31.:31:30.

55. I welcome the UK Government's coimatment do enrure we have

:31:31.:31:31.

commitment to ensure we have borrowing

:31:32.:31:33.

commitment to ensure we have boprowing powers. They `re

:31:34.:31:33.

commitment to ensure we have borrowing powers. They are not

:31:34.:31:34.

commitment to ensure we have dependent on particular projects

:31:35.:31:37.

commitment to ensure we have zero would be have to bid. It is

:31:38.:31:40.

zepo would be hate to bhd. It hs important that

:31:41.:31:43.

zepo would be hate to bhd. It hs impobtant t`at bnrrowing

:31:44.:31:43.

zepo would be hate to bhd. It hs important that borrowing powers

:31:44.:31:43.

benefit the whole of important that borrowing powers

:31:44.:31:44.

belefit the whole of Wales. important that borrowing powers

:31:45.:31:47.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am mindful of that

:31:48.:31:49.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am mindful od dhat `ecause t`e

:31:50.:31:49.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am mindful of that because the M4

:31:50.:31:50.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am relief road has

:31:51.:31:50.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am rehief road has `een

:31:51.:31:50.

benefit the whole of Wales. I am relief road has been the most

:31:51.:31:52.

mentaoned relief road has been the most

:31:53.:31:52.

mentioned but relief road has been the most

:31:53.:31:55.

are esed to benedit are the relief road has been the most

:31:56.:31:59.

road projects. I know ?17 million is relief road has been the most

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already budgeted relief road has been the most

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already btdgeted for relief road has been the most

:32:06.:32:06.

already budgeted for making relief road has been the most

:32:07.:32:06.

improvements, however, anyone relief road has been the most

:32:07.:32:08.

improvemeltc, however, anyoNe vho relief road has been the most

:32:09.:32:09.

uses what is the main relief road has been the most

:32:10.:32:10.

usas what is the main arterial roaD usas what ic the main arterial road

:32:11.:32:15.

leading to usas what ic the main arterial road

:32:16.:32:16.

leadang to all pnints usas what ic the main arterial road

:32:17.:32:16.

leading to all points pass usas what ic the main arterial road

:32:17.:32:16.

leadang to all pnints p`ss my leading to all points pass my

:32:17.:32:17.

consdituelcq leading to all points pass my

:32:18.:32:17.

constituency will leading to all points pass my

:32:18.:32:17.

colsdituencq will know how a vdhicle constituency will know how a vehicle

:32:18.:32:19.

braacdown constituency will know how a vehicle

:32:20.:32:20.

breakdown or constituency will know how a vehicle

:32:21.:32:20.

breacdown or a lorry constituency will know how a vehicle

:32:21.:32:23.

accidents can lead to very long accidents can lead to very long

:32:24.:32:26.

closures and they do not just affect closeres `nd they do not bust `ffect

:32:27.:32:28.

members of closeres `nd they do not bust `ffect

:32:29.:32:29.

members od dhe public. members of the public. They affect

:32:30.:32:30.

tourism, members of the public. They affect

:32:31.:32:30.

tourasm, business. members of the public. They affect

:32:31.:32:33.

tourism, business. Can I make a plea members of the public. They affect

:32:34.:32:34.

that when we look at borrowing members of the public. They affect

:32:35.:32:40.

powers that further improvements to the 55 along with improvements to

:32:41.:32:43.

inpegrated the 55 along with improvements to

:32:44.:32:44.

integrated transport in north-east the 55 along with improvements to

:32:45.:32:44.

Wales are considered? the 55 along with improvements to

:32:45.:32:48.

Walec are considdred? The the 55 along with improvements to

:32:49.:32:48.

Wales are considered? The A505 is the 55 along with improvements to

:32:49.:32:49.

key to thd the 55 along with improvements to

:32:50.:32:49.

key to the economy of the North. The the 55 along with improvements to

:32:50.:32:54.

Minister for the 55 along with improvements to

:32:55.:32:56.

Milister dob ecolomy the 55 along with improvements to

:32:57.:32:58.

4.2 million for short-term interventions

:32:59.:32:59.

4.2 million for short-term inpebventions to

:33:00.:33:00.

4.2 million for short-term interventions to improve resilience

:33:01.:33:01.

on t`e interventions to improve resilience

:33:02.:33:08.

on the 55. Safe havens for broken down vehicles, mdasures

:33:09.:33:09.

on the 55. Safe havens for broken down vehicles, measures to

:33:10.:33:10.

on the 55. Safe havens for broken facilitate the release of

:33:11.:33:11.

on the 55. Safe havens for broken facilitate dhe release nf traffic in

:33:12.:33:11.

facilitate the release of traffic in major

:33:12.:33:13.

facilitate the release of traffic in majob incidents `nd

:33:14.:33:15.

facilitate the release of traffic in major incidents and improvements to

:33:16.:33:16.

facilitate the release of traffic in tha diversion

:33:17.:33:16.

facilitate the release of traffic in the diversion routes. Since the

:33:17.:33:19.

introduction of the traffic officer the diversion routes. Since the

:33:20.:33:21.

service we have seen vast the diversion routes. Since the

:33:22.:33:24.

improvements in the time taken to deal with breakdowns. With borrowing

:33:25.:33:27.

powers deal with breakdowns. With borrowing

:33:28.:33:28.

powebs thd deal with breakdowns. With borrowing

:33:29.:33:28.

powers the intention deal with breakdowns. With borrowing

:33:29.:33:28.

powebs thd antention would be deal with breakdowns. With borrowing

:33:29.:33:29.

powers the intention would be to look at hnw

:33:30.:33:30.

powers the intention would be to look at how major projects would

:33:31.:33:31.

help facilitate look at how major projects would

:33:32.:33:34.

help facilidate traffic look at how major projects would

:33:35.:33:35.

help facilitate traffic on the look at how major projects would

:33:36.:33:41.

A505. I welcome your look at how major projects would

:33:42.:33:45.

A505. I welcome xour commitment to look at how major projects would

:33:46.:33:48.

tha `roject and look at how major projects would

:33:49.:33:49.

the project and the recognition that look at how major projects would

:33:50.:33:49.

any borrowing powers that are to be look at how major projects would

:33:50.:33:51.

used should be look at how major projects would

:33:52.:33:52.

usad should be used look at how major projects would

:33:53.:33:53.

used should be used for the look at how major projects would

:33:54.:33:53.

usad should be used for t`e whnle look at how major projects would

:33:54.:33:53.

used should be used for the whole of look at how major projects would

:33:54.:33:54.

Wales and not look at how major projects would

:33:55.:33:54.

Wahec and not jurt certain look at how major projects would

:33:55.:33:56.

the countpy look at how major projects would

:33:57.:33:57.

the country which have look at how major projects would

:33:58.:33:58.

had what many look at how major projects would

:33:59.:34:00.

had ghat lany pepceive to be the lion share of investment. Can xou

:34:01.:34:04.

lion share of intestment. Can xou tell us whether

:34:05.:34:05.

lion share of intestment. Can xou tell us whedher xour

:34:06.:34:06.

tell us whether your Government is consaderilg

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tell us whether your Government is considering hard shoulders on

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tell us whether your Government is significant parts of the 55 that do

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not currently have hard s`oulders not currently have hard shoulders

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and can lead to some not currently have hard shoulders

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and can lead to rome of the and can lead to some of the problems

:34:16.:34:16.

in terms of in terms nf trafdic confestion at

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peak times? I mentioned the plans in terms nf trafdic confestion at

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for safe havens for in terms nf trafdic confestion at

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fop cafe hafens for vehhcles. in terms nf trafdic confestion at

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for safe havens for vehicles. There was a mania in the hot 80s for

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building hoele carriagewaqs was a mania in the hot 80s for

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building joule carriageways without hard shoulders. Improvements can

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building joule carriageways without hapd shoulders. Improvements can be

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hard shoulders. Improvements can be made. Being able to

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hard shoulders. Improvements can be ma`e. Beilg able to put in place

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hard shoulders. Improvements can be safe havens

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hard shoulders. Improvements can be sade havens to gdt

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hard shoulders. Improvements can be safe havens to get vehicles

:34:42.:34:41.

hard shoulders. Improvements can be sade havens to gdt vehicles out of

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safe havens to get vehicles out of the way when they

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safe havens to get vehicles out of the gay when they are brocen dnwn Is

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the way when they are broken down is an importand way of

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an important way of ensuring improve traffic flow. I was pleased that you

:34:49.:34:55.

mentioned the possibility of using borrowing powers to pay for a third

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crossing borrowing powers to pay for a third

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croscing `cboss the Men`i. borrowing powers to pay for a third

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crossing across the Menai. It is croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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important the borrowing powers croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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not consumed croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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nop consuled entirely bx croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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not consumed entirely by projects in croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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one part of Wales, croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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one `art of Wales, but in the croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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meantime there are things that croscing `cboss the en`i. It hs

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be done, signs encouraging people to use

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be done, signs encouraging people to usa both

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be done, signs encouraging people to use both lanes, but what plans

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be done, signs encouraging people to you `ave

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be done, signs encouraging people to you have to look again

:35:22.:35:21.

be done, signs encouraging people to you `ave to look again `t the hdea

:35:22.:35:22.

yoq `ave to look again `t the hdea is that emerge from

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yoq `ave to look again `t the hdea is t`at emebge fpom the

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is that emerge from the short-term feasibility study to alleviate

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traffic on the Britannia Bridge and feasibility study to alleviate

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try and regenerate some of the ideas mentioned during the one Wales

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Government? I asked the minister aboud

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Government? I asked the minister about the satuation on

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Government? I asked the minister about the situation on the Britannia

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Bridge and one project ultimately we Bridge and one project ultimately we

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hate to Bridge and one project ultimately we

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have to accept that is looking at whether

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have to accept that is looking at whet`er we can expand

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have to accept that is looking at whether we can expand the bridges

:35:49.:35:53.

that are there. To look at another bridge in the future. I will ask

:35:54.:35:55.

that are there. To look at another bridge in t`e future. I wall ark tHe

:35:56.:35:56.

bridge in the future. I will ask the Minister to

:35:57.:35:56.

bridge in the future. I will ask the Milicter to write to

:35:57.:35:57.

bridge in the future. I will ask the Minister to write to you about that

:35:58.:35:59.

bridge in the future. I will ask the situation regarding which way we can

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ensure situation regarding which way we can

:36:05.:36:04.

ensube traffic ol situation regarding which way we can

:36:05.:36:04.

ensure traffic on Britannia situation regarding which way we can

:36:05.:36:06.

are improved in the future. Problems ara amproted in the future. Problems

:36:07.:36:11.

on the 55 have caused huge ara amproted in the future. Problems

:36:12.:36:17.

congestion but residents suffer congestiol

:36:18.:36:18.

congestion but residents suffer congestion problems on a daily basis

:36:19.:36:19.

because congestion problems on a daily basis

:36:20.:36:20.

becaese od a congestion problems on a daily basis

:36:21.:36:20.

becaese of a lack congestion problems on a daily basis

:36:21.:36:23.

because of a lack of direct access to the M4.

:36:24.:36:24.

because of a lack of direct access to t`e M4. Af borrowing powers

:36:25.:36:24.

because of a lack of direct access to the M4. If borrowing powers are

:36:25.:36:25.

because of a lack of direct access used to

:36:26.:36:25.

because of a lack of direct access usad to fund

:36:26.:36:25.

because of a lack of direct access used to fund any

:36:26.:36:28.

because of a lack of direct access usad to fund any road btilding,

:36:29.:36:29.

because of a lack of direct access used to fund any road building, that

:36:30.:36:30.

because of a lack of direct access section will be completed as

:36:31.:36:33.

because of a lack of direct access priority? It

:36:34.:36:34.

because of a lack of direct access priobity? Id will not hdlp

:36:35.:36:35.

because of a lack of direct access priority? It will not help them get

:36:36.:36:36.

because of a lack of direct access on the 55 but

:36:37.:36:37.

because of a lack of direct access on t`e 55 bet netertheless I

:36:38.:36:37.

because of a lack of direct access on the 55 but nevertheless I take

:36:38.:36:38.

tha `oint, on the 55 but nevertheless I take

:36:39.:36:39.

the point. It is important on the 55 but nevertheless I take

:36:40.:36:41.

tha `oint, At is important we have the `oint, At is important we have

:36:42.:36:41.

the eastern access the `oint, At is important we have

:36:42.:36:43.

tha eastepn access road the `oint, At is important we have

:36:44.:36:47.

the eastern access road link. These the `oint, At is important we have

:36:48.:36:49.

are all issues we are looking at at the `oint, At is important we have

:36:50.:36:50.

tha moment. the moment. That will help people

:36:51.:36:53.

who live in that part of the moment. That will help people

:36:54.:36:56.

who live hn that part of eastern Cardiff to access the

:36:57.:36:59.

who live hn that part of eastern improvements put

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who live hn that part of eastern improvemeltc put in

:37:00.:36:59.

who live hn that part of eastern improvements put in place on Eastern

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Avanee improvements put in place on Eastern

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Avenue which improved access from Saind

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Avenue which improved access from Saint Mellons, but in

:37:07.:37:07.

Avenue which improved access from Saind ellons, btt in time

:37:08.:37:07.

Avenue which improved access from Saint Mellons, but in time we

:37:08.:37:08.

Saind ellons, btt in time we hope to be in a

:37:09.:37:11.

Saind ellons, btt in time we hope to be in ` `osition

:37:12.:37:12.

Saind ellons, btt in time we hope to be in a position to look at an

:37:13.:37:12.

to be in ` `osition to look at an extension. Will he make

:37:13.:37:19.

to be in ` `osition to look at an expension, Gill he make a statement

:37:20.:37:19.

to be in ` `osition to look at an on the employer support grant? It

:37:20.:37:21.

has been extended twice. It supports has been extended twice. It supports

:37:22.:37:27.

businesses offering employment to businesses offering emploqment to

:37:28.:37:33.

disabled staff. The scheme has supported 185 job starts,

:37:34.:37:35.

disabled staff. The scheme has recruitment efforts continue for a

:37:36.:37:39.

disabled staff. The scheme has further 209 employment

:37:40.:37:39.

disabled staff. The scheme has opportunities. He will be aware that

:37:40.:37:44.

thare opportunities. He will be aware that

:37:45.:37:44.

there has been a successful bid for opportunities. He will be aware that

:37:45.:37:48.

the give employee factory by opportunities. He will be aware that

:37:49.:37:50.

so-called Ltd which opportunities. He will be aware that

:37:51.:37:51.

so)called Ltd which has benefited so-called Ldd whhc` has benefited

:37:52.:37:51.

from a three-year contract from so-called Ldd whhc` has benefited

:37:52.:37:57.

Welsh Government. Does he agreed the employer ru`port

:37:58.:37:57.

Welsh Government. Does he agreed the employer support grant

:37:58.:37:58.

Welsh Government. Does he agreed the employer ru`port grant hs

:37:59.:37:58.

Welsh Government. Does he agreed the employer support grant is a

:37:59.:37:58.

Welsh Government. Does he agreed the demonstration of how we can do

:37:59.:38:00.

things differently in Wales and demonstration of how we can do

:38:01.:38:02.

things didferently in W`les and we things differently in Wales and we

:38:03.:38:02.

have taken the lead here things differently in Wales and we

:38:03.:38:05.

that is the envy of trade unionists things differently in Wales and we

:38:06.:38:08.

in both England and Scotland? in both Elgland `nd cotland? Indeed

:38:09.:38:14.

we have and the results speak for themselves.

:38:15.:38:14.

we have and the results speak for thamcelves. There are

:38:15.:38:15.

we have and the results speak for themselves. There are occasions when

:38:16.:38:16.

we have and the results speak for we have to take action, action

:38:17.:38:18.

we have to dake `ction, action that is forced upon us and this

:38:19.:38:20.

we have to dake `ction, action that is forced u`on ur and this is `n

:38:21.:38:21.

occasion is forced u`on ur and this is `n

:38:22.:38:21.

occacion vhen th`t is forced u`on ur and this is `n

:38:22.:38:22.

occasion when that action has proved to be very successful indeed. I am

:38:23.:38:28.

occasion when that action has proved sure that those

:38:29.:38:29.

occasion when that action has proved supe that t`ose who

:38:30.:38:29.

occasion when that action has proved sure that those who have

:38:30.:38:31.

sure that t`ose vho havd benefited from the frant

:38:32.:38:32.

sure that t`ose vho havd benefited from the grant will see another

:38:33.:38:33.

sure that t`ose vho havd benefited example of the Welsh Government

:38:34.:38:34.

taking action weight is needed. In example of the Welsh Government

:38:35.:38:38.

Wrexham, enterprise and example of the Welsh Government

:38:39.:38:41.

opened a factory employing former example of the Welsh Government

:38:42.:38:46.

employee employees with support of example of the Welsh Government

:38:47.:38:52.

the grant. I have since introduced tham to

:38:53.:38:52.

the grant. I have since introduced them to disability groups here and

:38:53.:38:54.

the grant. I have since introduced hehd a

:38:55.:38:55.

the grant. I have since introduced held a meeting with the council

:38:56.:38:57.

the grant. I have since introduced look at opportunhtaes

:38:58.:38:58.

the grant. I have since introduced look at opportunities for possible

:38:59.:38:58.

contbacts, @ow look at opportunities for possible

:38:59.:39:02.

contracts. How can look at opportunities for possible

:39:03.:39:02.

contbacts, @ow can you look at opportunities for possible

:39:03.:39:05.

contracts. How can you assist coltbacts. How can you `ssist the

:39:06.:39:05.

commissioning coltbacts. How can you `ssist the

:39:06.:39:06.

coimassioling of t`ose coltbacts. How can you `ssist the

:39:07.:39:09.

commissioning of those services were commissioning of t`ose rervices were

:39:10.:39:09.

problems have arisen with the scale problems hafe arisen with the rcale

:39:10.:39:10.

of the contract promise of the contbact promise becausd of

:39:11.:39:13.

commissioning limitations? It is of the contbact promise becausd of

:39:14.:39:23.

difficult for of the contbact promise becausd of

:39:24.:39:23.

diffacult for me of the contbact promise becausd of

:39:24.:39:26.

difficult for me to discuss issues becaese

:39:27.:39:26.

difficult for me to discuss issues because of confidentiality. We would

:39:27.:39:33.

look at increasing as many look at increasing as many

:39:34.:39:35.

employment opportunities to those who have no more employment. We will

:39:36.:39:44.

leave first Minister 's questions thare but

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bean online. Our political editor has

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been watching in our assembly online. Our political editor has

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room. Some testy online. Our political editor has

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love lost between two. He went on a love lost betweel two. He went on a

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subject which is the first time it has been raised. Quite a complex for

:40:15.:40:16.

subject which is the first time it property story where

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subject which is the first time it property rtory where an

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subject which is the first time it property story where an organisation

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whare the property story where an organisation

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where the regeneration property story where an organisation

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fund sold 20 publicly owned sites for a sum of about 20 million. It is

:40:28.:40:31.

fund sold 20 publicly owned sites the subject

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fund sold 20 publicly owned sites tha cubject of al anvestigation by

:40:33.:40:34.

the subject of an investigation by tha

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the subject of an investigation by the Welsh audit office and the

:40:35.:40:36.

tha Welsh aedit nffice `nd the thrusts of the attack from Andrew

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thructs od dhe attack from Andrew Davies was the

:40:40.:40:41.

Davies war dhe taxpayer was short-changed and

:40:42.:40:41.

Davies war dhe taxpayer was shord-chalged and `e

:40:42.:40:45.

Davies war dhe taxpayer was reference to 120 acres of

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Davies war dhe taxpayer was refebence to 120 acres nf land

:40:49.:40:48.

reference to 120 acres of land at an reference to 120 acres of land at an

:40:49.:40:50.

area just on the edge araa just on the edge of Cardiff

:40:51.:40:51.

that was sold for 1.8 million and araa just on the edge of Cardiff

:40:52.:40:54.

that was rold fop 1.8 mhllion `nd he said the actual real value of that

:40:55.:40:56.

said the `cdual peal value of that man could potentially be more than

:40:57.:40:58.

man could potentially bd more than man could potentially be more than

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100 million. The other thrust of the atpack

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100 million. The other thrust of the attack was the idea of this money

:41:03.:41:04.

was do attack was the idea of this money

:41:05.:41:05.

was to generate a pot of cash that attack was the idea of this money

:41:06.:41:07.

could be used to attack was the idea of this money

:41:08.:41:09.

across Wales. Because that scheme attack was the idea of this money

:41:10.:41:14.

has been wound attack was the idea of this money

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has been voend up by thd attack was the idea of this money

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has been wound up by the Welsh attack was the idea of this money

:41:17.:41:17.

Government amid all these attack was the idea of this money

:41:18.:41:18.

investigations, that is not going to attack was the idea of this money

:41:19.:41:21.

happen. Somewhat predictably the attack was the idea of this money

:41:22.:41:23.

first Minister said he could not attack was the idea of this money

:41:24.:41:27.

give any detailed answers why the investigations were underway. The

:41:28.:41:33.

furthest he got was an admission from the first Minister that he was

:41:34.:41:34.

nop from the first Minister that he was

:41:35.:41:34.

not happy about things, but as a nop happy about thangs, but as a

:41:35.:41:37.

result he was not going to give nop happy about thangs, but as a

:41:38.:41:40.

further detail. Andrew Davies nop happy about thangs, but as a

:41:41.:41:44.

accused him of hiding behind enquaries and

:41:45.:41:45.

accused him of hiding behind enquiries and the

:41:46.:41:45.

accused him of hiding behind enquaries and the response

:41:46.:41:45.

accused him of hiding behind enquiries and the response from

:41:46.:41:46.

enquaries and thd response from the first Minister was that

:41:47.:41:49.

enquaries and thd response from the Davies jurt

:41:50.:41:50.

enquaries and thd response from the Davies just calls

:41:51.:41:50.

enquaries and thd response from the Davies jurt calls for

:41:51.:41:50.

enquaries and thd response from the Davies just calls for enquiries

:41:51.:41:51.

enquaries and thd response from the does

:41:52.:41:51.

enquaries and thd response from the doas not

:41:52.:41:51.

enquaries and thd response from the does not make decisions. Kirsty

:41:52.:41:54.

does not lace decisions. Cirsty Williams and Leanne Wood

:41:55.:41:56.

Willaams `nd ealne ood askinf questions about their health

:41:57.:41:58.

quasdions about their hdalth service. Are they starting to wind

:41:59.:42:03.

servace. @re they starting to vind up the first Minister on these

:42:04.:42:07.

issues? She went on the hearing last issues? She went on the hearing last

:42:08.:42:12.

week and it came from the issues? She went on the hearing last

:42:13.:42:13.

weak and ht came from the health issues? She went on the hearing last

:42:14.:42:13.

watchdog that it could not give issues? She went on the hearing last

:42:14.:42:18.

assurance that the situation like at tha

:42:19.:42:20.

the mid-starts health trust could the mid-starts health trust could

:42:21.:42:22.

not happen again in Wales. She not happel again in ales. She said

:42:23.:42:27.

people would want the rig`t procedures in place so in

:42:28.:42:31.

people would want the rig`t health

:42:32.:42:31.

people would want the rig`t healdh watc`dog

:42:32.:42:31.

people would want the rig`t health watchdog could spot

:42:32.:42:32.

people would want the rig`t healdh watc`dog bould spot a problem

:42:33.:42:32.

health watc`dog bould spot a problem before it emerged. That led to a

:42:33.:42:36.

testy exchange. before it emerged. That led to a

:42:37.:42:39.

testq exchange. Barwyn before it emerged. That led to a

:42:40.:42:40.

testy exchange. Carwyn Jones went before it emerged. That led to a

:42:41.:42:40.

the attack and accused her of the attack and abcused her of

:42:41.:42:44.

suggesting that there the attack and abcused her of

:42:45.:42:44.

suggestinf dhat there was the attack and abcused her of

:42:45.:42:47.

suggesting that there was a threat of a mid Staffordshire type

:42:48.:42:56.

sipuation, of a mid Staffordshire type

:42:57.:42:57.

situation, to which she denied that. of a mid Staffordshire type

:42:58.:42:59.

There was an interchange between the There was an interchangd between the

:43:00.:43:04.

two of them. The leader of Plaid Cyire

:43:05.:43:04.

two of them. The leader of Plaid Cymru Leanne

:43:05.:43:04.

two of them. The leader of Plaid Cyire ealne ood

:43:05.:43:05.

two of them. The leader of Plaid Cymru Leanne Wood went on this issue

:43:06.:43:07.

of recruitment of doctors within Cymru Leanne Wood went on this issue

:43:08.:43:09.

NHS and the first minister went Cymru Leanne Wood went on this issue

:43:10.:43:14.

the attack accusing, making refebence

:43:15.:43:15.

the attack accusing, making reference to the pot tax of Plaid

:43:16.:43:17.

Cyire reference to the pot tax of Plaid

:43:18.:43:20.

Cymru which is a levy on fizzy drincs

:43:21.:43:21.

Cymru which is a levy on fizzy drinks which would fund 1000th of

:43:22.:43:23.

Cymru which is a levy on fizzy doctors and he pointed out

:43:24.:43:25.

doctors ald he pninted nut that encouraged people

:43:26.:43:25.

doctors ald he pninted nut that encoeraged `eople to

:43:26.:43:26.

doctors ald he pninted nut that encouraged people to consume more

:43:27.:43:27.

sugab. encouraged people to consume more

:43:28.:43:31.

sugar. Thank you. Another sugab. Th`nc you, Anothdr lively

:43:32.:43:33.

session of first Minister sugab. Th`nc you, Anothdr lively

:43:34.:43:37.

questions. That is it for today. I wihl

:43:38.:43:38.

questions. That is it for today. I will be

:43:39.:43:38.

questions. That is it for today. I wihl be b`cc

:43:39.:43:39.

questions. That is it for today. I will be back next week with more

:43:40.:43:40.

coverage of first Minister 's coverage of first Minister 's

:43:41.:43:42.

questions. If you want more Welsh coverage of first Minister 's

:43:43.:43:44.

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o'clock on Sunday. As for today, Pohidics nn B C Nne ales at 10

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from all of us here, goodbye. # Hallelujah @allelubaH!

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