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setting over the bay and we've got an audience of holidaymakers, | :00:12. | :00:16. | |
workers, locals and you. Welcome to the only show where you can have | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
your say about what you care about right now on BBC Three. We're live | :00:20. | :00:27. | |
from mag Louvre from our Summer Special -- Magaluf, with our summer | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
Special, Free Speech. Grab as many opportunities as possible, but it's | :00:31. | :00:39. | |
an uphill struggle. This is an equality issue. There's | :00:39. | :00:49. | |
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more expected from people nowadays. Edwards. Tonight we're live on the | :01:00. | :01:08. | |
beach in Magaluf. Lively bunch. They're here to tell us what they | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
think and we want to hear what you think at home too. Just tell Tina. | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
Thank you very much. How nice is this, welcome to Free Speech on the | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
beach. I want you to get online with Facebook, Twitter and the BBC. Here | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
Facebook, Twitter and the BBC. Here Facebook, Twitter and the BBC. Here | :01:24. | :01:34. | |
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to what you think of the panel's point of view and it operates via | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
Twitter. Just use #yes or #no followed by the first name of the | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
panelist each time awe gree or disagree with them. Here's our | :01:55. | :02:02. | |
panel. Their first job is to tell us who they are and what they're doing | :02:02. | :02:09. | |
here. I'm Amplify Dot, I'm a rapper and I'm here to vent. I'm Emma Kenny | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
and I'm a psychologist and broadcaster. I'm Adam Deacon, an | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
action film maker. I'm Lottie Dexter and I ran a campaign for young, | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
unemployed people. That is your panel. | :02:23. | :02:31. | |
APPLAUSE Let's get going. You're probably | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
thinking why is Free Speech on the beach? The answer is. This. 12 | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
million Brits head to Spain each year. Over two million of them, | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
mainly aged 16 to 25 come here to have fun in the sun. What have you | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
been up to? Who's been tearing this place a new one? Been spending last, | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
God knows how long, getting wasted, working during the day and partying | :02:57. | :03:03. | |
at night. Similar to most people here? A resounding yes. Brits abroad | :03:03. | :03:07. | |
just basic legends. The Foreign Office reports that ten Britons a | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
week are hospitalised following a drinking session in Majorca and | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
Ibiza. Marta has a question. Should young people behave better on | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
holiday? We're talking about holiday resorts all around the world, not | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
just this one. I know there's a lot to say on this. We want to keep the | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
debate moving. Emma, you have 30 seconds to give us a taste of your | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
point of view. I think that young people will want to have a good | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
time. I think it's really important thaw come out and enjoy yourselves. | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
I don't feel that I'm puritan in my belief systems. You should be having | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
a great time. Drinking is part of that. I would like some young people | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
to have a few more boundaries of safety because you're really | :03:50. | :03:56. | |
important. You are the future. It's really integral that you don't fall | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
off balconies, for example. So get out. There youth is for the young. | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
Enjoy yourselves. Remember, you are a number one priority. Great timing | :04:03. | :04:10. | |
as well. APPLAUSE | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
I'm very liberal. I'd say these kind of holidays are a rite of passage. I | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
loved my first holiday away from my parents. Putting too many rules on | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
it takes away from what it is. It is your first time away from your | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
parents. It's a time to let loose. I'm all for. It I'd say similarly, | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
have a few boundaries and don't go too crazy. But your parents aren't | :04:31. | :04:39. | |
here. APPLAUSE | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
Is anyone's's parents here? Yeah. One lonely voice. It's a nightmare. | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
Do we feel there have to be boundaries? No? You think just get | :04:52. | :05:01. | |
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on with it. I feel nervous.Yes. Looking at it I think you said 2. 5 | :05:05. | :05:10. | |
people travel to this place and ten Brits a week are hospitalised. Over | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
the course of the season, there's 20 weeks and only 200 people | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
hospitalised. Good maths. For you 200 people is acceptable collateral? | :05:21. | :05:27. | |
It's like 0. 0 1% or something like that. It's a very small minority. | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
Most people do have boundaries so it's important to have them and the | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
one that's don't have them should maybe instigate them. Who think | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
that's 200 people is too many getting hospitalised? No? Everyone's | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
happy with that. I think people have boundaries if they're going on | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
holiday any way. But at the end of the day, have fun, be safe. Don't be | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
stupid. If you're going to climb over a balcony, why? You wouldn't do | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
it normally. Unless you are paralytic in the street, but if | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
you're like that you won't be able to walk to the balcony and climb | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
over. It's ridiculous. I don't get why someone if they're in a hotel | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
thinks oh, yeah I'm going to climb over a little barrier that's three | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
storeys up. Why? It's stupid. going to be talking about this | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
balcony thing a bit later on. Tina, what are people saying? It's all | :06:20. | :06:30. | |
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kicking offment loads of messages Brits I've seen behave abroad. It's | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
the minority that don't." Any of you in the minority? No-one's going to | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
admit it on TV. Maybe that guy. What do you think? I've been on many | :06:49. | :06:55. | |
holidays with my boys and it's just about you go there to have fun. You | :06:55. | :07:01. | |
go with your mates. It's like a rite of passage. You're away from your | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
parents. You want to let your hair down. Most Brits, yeah, we're going | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
to drink. At the same time it's a minority that go crazy and jump off | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
a roof. So, I think just have a good time. Come on holiday, have a good | :07:15. | :07:21. | |
time, respect the country at the same time. But be responsible. | :07:21. | :07:28. | |
rerespecting the country? Some do, some don't. Not necessarily. If you | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
walk around the strip, a lot of them disrespect the Spanish people that | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
live here and the police. It's just a shame. That is a minority as well. | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
Most of us have a wicked time and look after the place. But there is a | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
minority of people that do actually take the Micky a bit. What's your | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
take on this? A gree. Having one person hospitalise issed one too | :07:48. | :07:56. | |
many. You have to -- hospitalised is one too many. It's good to have fun, | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
but don't go too far. You need to be aware where the boundary is. Who has | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
posted on social media during this holiday and something that actually | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
they feel a bit embarrassed about? Has anyone put anything up? Yes. She | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
is embarrassed. What due put up? Anything specifically from this | :08:17. | :08:24. | |
holiday? I'm trying to think, because there's so many things. | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
passed out with your birthday cake. Yeah I went out for my 2 1st. I fell | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
asleep on my birthday cake box. It was like 8pm. I only started | :08:34. | :08:42. | |
drinking at like 7pm. But do you worry that future employers or | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
something might see stuff like that and take a dim view of it? Like when | :08:46. | :08:54. | |
I go back to the UK? Yeah.Yeah, but at the same time, like, out here, | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
luckily I have good friends out here. They all looked after me and | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
stuff. If I did it at home they would look after me as well, but we | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
are out here working and loving life and doing different - like at home, | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
on the weekend, I go out, it's like letting your hair down. In the UK I | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
have a serious job that does weigh you down. I came out here to get | :09:15. | :09:21. | |
away from it all. If I want to fall asleep on my birthday cake, I will. | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
APPLAUSE We've heard now from everyone on the | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
panel which means... It's power bar time. It has made it here. This is | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
where you find out what the audience at home think of what you've said so | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
at home think of what you've said so at home think of what you've said so | :09:41. | :09:50. | |
at home think of what you've said so far. Are you ready? Adot is edging | :09:50. | :09:59. | |
it for now. Everyone doing well. Are there any Spaniards in? Any? One | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
Spaniard! OK. What do you make of, let's be nice to him, what do you | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
make of the Brits abroad? What do you make of the guys you see coming | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
here? Coming over here, making jokes. Somebody is going to the | :10:12. | :10:22. | |
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strip and make making offers and me, I'm making jokes. It's OK. You don't | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
mind it? You welcome it? It's my job and I'm lucky for my job. The people | :10:30. | :10:36. | |
is coming from drinking. The people are happy and they go to the strip | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
normally. I'm probably unpopular saying this, but I think there's a | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
lot of pressure on young people to take part in certain things that, | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
when I watch, doesn't necessarily feel like in their best interests. I | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
know most of you here haven't felt you haven't done anything that you | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
didn't want to do but from my exierns, the drinking games, the | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
sexised -- sexualised behaviour that's expected and encouraged can | :11:01. | :11:08. | |
sometimes put some young people in a position that I don't think they | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
would choose to be in, but the pressure builds up and they feel | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
that they've got to take part in them. Don't get me wrong, I think | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
you should all have an excellent time. For my part, I don't think | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
it's a young person's issue. It's the promoters issues. It's the | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
behaviour that some people aren't ready for are so drunk they don't | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
know what they're doing. There should be more mindfulness on the | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
part of promoters really. Do you feel pressured at all? There's | :11:33. | :11:39. | |
plenty of programmes on the Telynau with the parents -- on the telly | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
now, with the parents, everyone sees what goes on here. They even explain | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
it to you before you've bought your ticket what's going o to happen. | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
agree but I think it would be nice to know that young people are looked | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
after. Sometimes it can be not getting them completely plaitered. | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
It's all laid out for you. It's the sun, the sea, it's cheap drink. It's | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
very cheap drink. It is cheap. People are under a lot of pressure | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
in Britain, especially young people. They look forward to it all year | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
round to come to a country like this and let their hair down. So, it's a | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
balancing act. At the same time, be responsible, but you've paid your | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
money, got your flat and you want to have fun. It's just about, you need | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
to know the people you're with as well. You need to have a tight group | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
of friends and that will look after you, like the girl over there said. | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
She knows that her girls have got her back. It's part of that as well. | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
Your friends won't let you start jumping over a balcony. If they are, | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
they're not your friends. People are getting themselves into trouble. The | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
sexual assault rates are really high, so a large, a lot more young | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
people are getting into situations where they are precarious and they | :12:52. | :12:59. | |
are drunk and at risk. It's the promoter's job to look after them. | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
It's the same in Britain. I drive from Shoreditch right. People are | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
lying on the street. We are in East London and so I think personally, | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
Britain's always had a culture of drinking. We drink heavily. When | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
it's laid out for you in the sun and sand, the music's there, it's a very | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
hard balancing act. I think it's all down to the individual | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
responsibility. APPLAUSE | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
There's a message. " I cringe seeing Brits abroad crawling on the floor | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
wasted. It's so embarrassing." think that the Brits abroad image is | :13:36. | :13:43. | |
exaggerated? Do we think it's fair? I think it's the same thing that | :13:43. | :13:50. | |
goes on back home. It's just not documented on TV and the newspapers. | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
You're sure you behave the same out here as you do at the weekends then? | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
Yeah? You go to any town centre. was in Liverpool last weekend. It | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
was no different to outside the clubs last night. Any town centre. | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
You have to ask yourselves why do British feel the need to get so | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
drunk that they need to be lying on the floor. That's the real question. | :14:14. | :14:20. | |
It's not a tourism issue. It could be anywhere, you go to any town | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
centre and you will see it. Why do young people feel the need to get so | :14:25. | :14:33. | |
off their face that they need to go on the floor? Why? The bad points | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
are always the bad points that people remember. I work as a PR out | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
here. Most nights, you always see one or two people being dragged home | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
early because they've had too much. I've been out here nearly two months | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
and I've only seen twice where someone's either been asleep on a | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
bench but there's always been people helping him. You might be somewhere | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
else, but people generally sleep in the gutter. It is kind of made out | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
to be a bit worse than it actually is. It is back home. I'm from Essex, | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
on a Friday night you come out and there are people just on the floor | :15:06. | :15:16. | |
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It is probably worse in Britain because you will see someone in the | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
gutter. Out here, the police aren't having it. They are on it. They see | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
a British person acting crazy, and they will stop it. The fact is the | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
laws are in place, and I think we got to go back home, back to | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
Britain and ask ourselves why the hell do we need to get so wasted? | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
Do you know what I'm saying? And you look at the countries Spain and | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
France. They're around a lot more alcohol. They get brought up | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
drinking at home. They have a meal, a glass of wine... But in | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
moderation. In moderation. It's our culture. We've always had it. We've | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
always had a culture of drinking excessively. But there's nothing | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
else to do. Everything you do, hanging out with your friends, is | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
around drinking, going to the pub. That's where you get funny stories. | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
There has to be other stuff to do, and I think we maybe need to do it | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
a bit more. Even the older generation - where do most of them | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
meet up? Down the pub. That's just how it is. People have to accept | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
that alcohol is a part of life. As Adam was saying, it is the fact | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
that over here they're brought up with it and how back home some | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
people might go out before they're legal to, but over here, you know, | :16:28. | :16:35. | |
the law is a lot less. I mean, I've PR'd people out here it turns out | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
they're 16. Because people look old enough - you get a lot of 17, 18- | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
year-olds think this is our chance. We can go away, have a blowout, | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
test their limits. It's their chance to have fun as a group | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
instead of back home with the pressures of people saying, last | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
time I saw you doing this! It's no worries. It's just, I can wake up | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
and do what I want. Some of them still have morals, but it's just | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
knowing that... People want to get off their face. What you're saying | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
is important. It's just questioning what's going on with people. As I | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
said,ing you people in France and Spain, they'll have a glass of wine | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
at 14... Five, with water.Really, it's about the taboo. It's about | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
the fact that young people can't wait to be 17 so they can go out | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
without their parents and get totally bladdered. Sent about self- | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
esteem as well because when we look at psychology, the truth is the | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
lower you feel about yourself, the higher risk activities you'll take | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
part in. I think that's taking it too deep. I honestly think binge | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
drinking, like you said, is inherently British. Psychology.I | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
think it's a British thing. It is. It really is. You say that Britain | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
just has a massive problem with binge drinking, and you don't see | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
there's a reason for that? There's going to be an underlying issue, | :17:55. | :18:00. | |
but I think it's a cultural thing. It's a curltural thing. Be honest, | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
right? You watch TV programmes, innit, comedies, whatever. You | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
watch the comedys that are on TV now. It's all about young people | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
getting drunk, doing madness. Obviously that's going to have an | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
effect. We're waiting for the day we can go abroad without our | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
parents to get totally mashed up. That's really what it is. It's | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
levels. You know what I'm saying? I have been there, and you won't see | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
me lying there in the street totally out of my face, but at the | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
same time I am a bit of a light- weight as well, so my body weight | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
can't - you've got a big guy, it's going to be a different thing, but | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
the basics of it is, is that we drink to get messed up, and that is | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
the question - why do we do that? Why can't we just have a little | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
drink, get a little wavy and keep it as that? Why do we have to go | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
mad? Mixed response online. This They disagree and think, actually, | :18:57. | :19:07. | |
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people do go wilder when they're Good time to have a look at the | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
Power Bar to see if anything has changed, and Adam, you have stormed | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
ahead of Adot probably because of your speech in the past few minutes. | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
I think a lot of people are just as upset as you about seeing people | :19:30. | :19:40. | |
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Some people are using our hashtag, Free Speech on the Beach. A special | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
hashtag, I love it. No question, holidays are about relaxing and | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
having fun, but consider this - one Brit has died and three more | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
injured in Meditteranean holiday resorts in the last month alone. | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
The Foreign Office felt compelled to issue this video. Me and a | :20:06. | :20:13. | |
couple of friends went in May 2011, Magaluf, for a short break. I was | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
on the balcony. I needed a lighter for a cigarette, so I asked the | :20:18. | :20:23. | |
balcony below. He threw a lighter up. I went to grab it, leaned out | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
over the balcony and just hit head first. I hit six or seven balconies | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
on the way down and landed on a plastic sun lounger. My friends who | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
saw the accident said that if the lounger weren't there, I would be | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
dead. I cut my face - that was quite a bad one, both eyelids slip | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
open, a hole either side, done my teeth in, fractured my skull, | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
snapped my wrist, most of the fingers on that wrist, got a big | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
gash on the leg. You can see the bone and stuff. I don't know what I | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
had quite done to my other wrist - I think I fractured it or something | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
like that, and back problems as well. That's the main one. We're | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
not just talking about Magaluf here. It's a much broader issue in | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
holiday resorts around the world. We've got a question from Ben. | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
Where's Ben? There he is. Should we do something about when we try | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
promote the issues of travelling abroad and the safety issues in | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
schools and colleges? Hang on, Rick. Before you start the clock, I am | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
launching the question live on Facebook and twits twit right now. | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
You can join in and have your say online - Twitter - while everyone | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
here is having theirs. The question is should we warn people about the | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
dangers of travelling abroad through schools and colleges. We'll | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
start with you, 30 seconds starting now. For me, I first went on my | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
first holiday five years ago with my mates, and may nots warned me. I | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
think a lot of it is parental guidance. I think we all do things | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
that we wouldn't want our parents to see, but ultimately your valued | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
are instiled to you by your parents. I don't think it's something that | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
needs to be coming through the school curriculum, I don't think. | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
It needs to be that embedded in our day-to-day learning. I think it's | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
something you learn at home, then out here maybe there should be a | :22:11. | :22:17. | |
few things to just perpetuate those lessons when you're here. From my | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
point of view we should absolutely educate people from day one, but we | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
have some great parents but we have some poor parents. School is a | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
fantastic place to educate you on all of those issues, so I would say | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
if education can save one life, then do it. It's as simple as that. | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
I agree. I think we need to go through schools and colleges, but I | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
also think the Government needs to be proactive about campaigning on | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
social media because I wasn't prepared for the balconying before | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
I came out here, then I went on Facebook and Twitter... I heard | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
about this on YouTube. Why are they not taking this off? You know what | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
I'm saying? If people are seeing it on YouTube, people jumping off | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
balconies, obviously, it's just common sense someone else out there | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
is going to maybe try that same thing. I think it's responsibility | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
from all angles - Government, schools - because, as you said, | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
parenting in Britain is lacking. Do you know what I'm saying? More and | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
more single mums - so at the end of the day, I think it's an all-around | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
thing. Do you get what I'm saying? YouTube, if someone's put a video | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
out of someone jumping off a balcony, put that off. They're | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
quick enough to take off a rap artist swearing, you know with a | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
I'm saying? Take that off. Don't let that stuff be seen to the | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
masses so people start getting ideas about, actually, I'm going to | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
go and do that. I just think, you know what - it's about individual | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
responsibility. Know who you're going out there with, and schools | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
can do so much. The Government can do so much, but really it's down to | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
family values, man. Exactly.It's about how you have been brought, | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
and that's how I see it. And a it's about knowing the consequence of | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
your actions as well. Whether that's going out, being sick and | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
your friends having to take you home or killing yourself by falling | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
off a balcony and your parents getting a phone call - it's about | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
knowing the consequences of your actions and taking responsibility | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
for it. It's a heady mix, isn't it? You go on holiday, expecting to | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
have a good time, getting drunk - people are doing things outside of | :24:12. | :24:21. | |
their comfort zones. I don't care what anyone says - when I went on | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
holiday, I did. People who book you into those holidays and look after | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
you in the hotels have to take responsibility. I am sure lots, do | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
but people do make mistakes when they're drunk. It's about | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
protecting them. I think it's very important the Government lets | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
people know about insurance. Absolutely. I have had friends that | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
have not considered holiday inshurs. They thietz going to be like | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
Britain. They go to the hospital - they have accidents, then they get | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
a massive bill. They're not covered. Are you saying that they should be | :24:55. | :25:01. | |
taught in school? Not taught in school. I don't - I'm not saying | :25:01. | :25:07. | |
that - no, we need... It's unrealistic. I'm getting older now, | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
isn't it? But I am saying there should be some subjects that it's | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
just about real life, whether it be - it's about the Government | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
understanding what young people do and young people go abroad and get | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
drunk. Young people have sex. They have sex underage. So they need to | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
understand these things happen, so let's not cover it under the bed | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
anymore. Let's actually have a session in school where it's like, | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
you know what? We know what you're doing, so if you're going to do it, | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
these are the precautions. This is what needs to happen. You get | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
insurance. You wear condoms. You don't drink to the point of falling | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
on the floor, and I think that's the time we're at at the moment | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
because otherwise, you're watching TV, and you're seeing it from a | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
comedy or a drama, and you're getting your own ideas about it, so | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
I think - I don't want to get into another subject, but I think if | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
we're going into the education system, I think it all needs to be | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
changed up, about real life. Yeah, yeah. I am saying that as an actor | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
- going off on one - I didn't know about sex, self-employment. Why | :26:05. | :26:15. | |
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didn't they teach us this stuff? Thrr divided opinions over who is | :26:20. | :26:30. | |
:26:30. | :26:50. | ||
You're a PR manager of a bar? Talk to me about your drinks policy. | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
policy is you pay a certain price, then you get a free bar which lasts | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
from the opening to the shutting hours. Right. So it's a flat-rate | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
entry, then you can drink as much as you like? Yeah.Do you think | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
that's responsible? I think the responsibility - well, the | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
responsibility lies with the person who buys the product if the first | :27:09. | :27:15. | |
place, I think. The security are very good, I believe. If somebody | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
is too intoxicated, they're asked to leave. If there's somebody | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
causing trul, they are asked to leave -- trouble, they're asked to | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
leave. But the fact they're getting too intoxicated in the first place. | :27:28. | :27:35. | |
You divung the street, yeah, and they're all competing, "Come to our | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
club, and we'll give you free drinks, plus shots, pay �5". They | :27:41. | :27:48. | |
want people to come to their club. They're offering everything. Come | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
to our club and you'll get drunk for �5. The clubs need to take | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
responsibility. When you're saying what you're saying - somebody gets | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
too inebriated, we throw them out. Actually, you have a responsibility | :28:01. | :28:07. | |
for that, to just don't get them inebriated to that point. You can't | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
blame the promoters. It's about responsibility for everyone. | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
promoters have a job to do. I'm sure they have targets. They're | :28:14. | :28:19. | |
trying to make an income. When you're in these places, there is | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
opportunities to do other things. Last night I was out - I saw people | :28:23. | :28:29. | |
giving out laughing gas, people giving out shots, but there's no- | :28:29. | :28:35. | |
one giving out condoms or bottles of water. Exactly.There are things | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
that can be done to make everybody more responsible. If we did educate | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
people, hopefully they wouldn't be in that situation in the first | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
place, so it's about stopping them getting to that point. You asked | :28:48. | :28:54. | |
the question. What do you think? Yeah, I think they should | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
definitely be doing something more. I remember two years ago I was at | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
college. I am a guilty driver. When I used to drive, I never used to | :29:01. | :29:05. | |
wear a seat belt. One day the college took not even an hour and I | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
sat and watched a video where they do the seat belt thing, going | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
through it all, the consequences of it all, never in that point have I | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
never worn a seat belt again - a similar video, one day, if that. | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
Information is everybody's fail- safe. That's all it is. Young | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
people talk on Twitter. They talk on Facebook. Have the Government | :29:27. | :29:30. | |
caught up with that? They haven't. It has to be a conversation, not | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
just ramming things down people's throats - you must do this. It's | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
about engaging with people. That's the only way it's actually going to | :29:37. | :29:47. | |
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get across. Totally agree. This thing ever. You pay 25 euros and you | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
get unlimited drinks. You don't have to keep getting out their purse, | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
losing money. Nothing to worry about. They can focus on having a | :29:58. | :30:02. | |
good time and having fun with their friends, which they've paid for. | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
They've paid hundreds of pounds to come over here to have a good time. | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
That free bar offers a good time and you don't have to spend any more | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
money. A cheap night. I was a barmaid for the same bar last year, | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
Fayhe felt that someone was too drunk -- if I felt that someone was | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
too drunk, I wouldn't serve them. If they got really aggressive, | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
spaernlly guys sometimes, then -- especially guys, then get chucked | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
out. We do have bottles of water behind the bar. The lady over here. | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
I'm a barmaid as well. I work for the same company. Have you got a | :30:39. | :30:45. | |
monopoly? Pretty much! I find that when I refuse to serve people when | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
they're doo drunk, their friends will come -- too drunk, their | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
friends will come up and get the drinks. Your friends have to have | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
responsibility with it. If I think your friend's too drunk, but you | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
want to get them more drunk, who's responsibility is that then? I | :30:59. | :31:07. | |
refuse to serve them. Yeah. I was going to say that absolutely nowhere | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
in their free bar does it say you have to drink alcohol. You can get | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
water, coke, lemonade, look after yourselves. It's not down to anyone | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
else. APPLAUSE | :31:21. | :31:26. | |
They're drunk, so we also have to take responsibility because as soon | :31:26. | :31:29. | |
as you're drunk you've not got the same conscious thinking. We know | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
that. We know that's what alcohol does. At that junkure we have to | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
trust other individuals, such as bar staff to look after that individual. | :31:37. | :31:43. | |
That's the way it goes. At the same time, though, surely, I sell tickets | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
on the island. Wherever you're selling for whichever one you're | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
selling a package for, if you're trying to sell a product for, you're | :31:53. | :31:59. | |
going to be honest, OK, you want to get wasted you're on holiday, if you | :31:59. | :32:06. | |
don't want to get wasted, you've come to the wrong place. Everyone | :32:06. | :32:10. | |
who comes here is here to get wasted. I shake my head at anyone | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
who says they're not here to have a good time. What are people saying on | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
social media? Let's go to Liam who says, " It's down to the parents to | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
educate them on the dangers." Monica says, " We should make people aware | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
of the dangers but not to the point we put them off. However it's more | :32:26. | :32:30. | |
important that we show them that going abroad doesn't have to be | :32:30. | :32:35. | |
about getting wasted, it can be about seeing sights and having fun." | :32:35. | :32:41. | |
Well edited. There's one more from Peter as well. " Some people just | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
forget they're not Superman once they are drunk." We reset the Power | :32:47. | :32:53. | |
bar on the last debate. Adot you're in the lead begun. You can influence | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
the power bar too. Get on Twitter now. Tell our panelists what you | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
think of them. Use #yes or #no followed by their first name. If you | :33:03. | :33:13. | |
:33:13. | :33:17. | ||
agree with Adot has #yes Adot or #no Adot and the same with each of the | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
others' names. Make your voice heard on Free | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
Speech. Next in Britain latest figures show one young person in | :33:26. | :33:29. | |
five is unemployed. Here in Spain more than half of young people are | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
out of work. Many leave Spain to look for jobs with tens of thousands | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
arriving in the UK each year. Back in London, we asked young Spaniards | :33:37. | :33:47. | |
what brought them to Britain. I leave Spain for work because we | :33:47. | :33:53. | |
haven't got any opportunity right now. All my friends and all family, | :33:53. | :33:59. | |
kind of, suffering to get a job. They're struggling. I came to London | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
because I wanted to improve my English. I am a teacher in my | :34:03. | :34:08. | |
country. Right now I'm studying tourist management. I'm looking into | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
the situation especially now in Spain, there's nothing telling me or | :34:12. | :34:20. | |
making me think to go back at all. No. I never go back to Spain. | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
probably go back, but obviously, now with the economy, how things are | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
going in Spain, it's not the best time. Maybe I will go back to Spain, | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
one day. My plan is to go back in one year's time from now, but you | :34:34. | :34:44. | |
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never know. We've got a question from Lewis. We're represents for the | :34:48. | :34:53. | |
-- reps for a company and my question is in the current economic | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
climates do you think we'll see young Brits move ago broad to start | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
work. Adam I think is answering the call of nature. Lottie 30 seconds | :35:03. | :35:08. | |
now. I don't think we will. I think that they should be able to. I think | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
the key to this is education. It's about making sure that young people | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
have the right skills, right education to get the jobs at home as | :35:15. | :35:20. | |
well as abroad. I think that we need to drastically we form our | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
vocational education system. We need to look to Germany, Austria and take | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
on board some of the things they're doing. Countries in the EU with very | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
low youth unemployment. I don't think that we will, because they | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
don't speak the language. I think we should get on top of our training | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
system so they can. You spoke quickly at the end and did well. | :35:41. | :35:47. | |
What's the question? Will we see - pay attention by the way - will we | :35:47. | :35:52. | |
see more young Brits work ago broad in the current economic climate? | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
I think Brits working abroad is very seasonal. The EU allows that, an | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
opportunity for people to come away for a few months and have fun in the | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
sun and make money. There are so many opportunities in the UK, that | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
it's not so much about Brits leaving to go and work in other EU | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
countries. It's more about how many people are coming from other | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
countries to work in the UK. That's a more significant number. Remember, | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
we are live and you can talk to us now. We're on Facebook, Twitter and | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
we're on BBC online. Your opinion at home matters. So let's hear it. | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
Tina, give me an example. This is from Laura. Everyone's concentrated | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
around immigrants because it's a media bubble. No-one seems to even | :36:31. | :36:38. | |
menage bad working edgic, attitude and lack of basic literacy and math | :36:38. | :36:45. | |
skills issues that are widely spread along Brit youth. Where's Erikah? | :36:45. | :36:49. | |
There you are. How long have you worked over here? At the moment I've | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
been here for two-and-a-half months. I worked last year as well for six | :36:53. | :36:59. | |
months. Have you found it? Really good. I love it. I'll do it forever, | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
if I could. Why have you come over here for work? You can't find o work | :37:05. | :37:09. | |
or work that you want to do back home? I just don't feel like England | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
is the place for me, personally, I just don't really want to live | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
there. The lifestyle and just basically, like, constantly having | :37:17. | :37:26. | |
to go to job interviews, just to get somewhere in England is hard. You | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
have to have your head right in the game. But here, it's like so easy. | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
It's just like a nice, laid-back lifestyle, where you can chill out, | :37:36. | :37:40. | |
making money and have a good life. Whereas I'm constantly stressed back | :37:40. | :37:48. | |
home. OK. Emma? I think that economic migrants is really | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
important. We need lots of people to come to different countries to work. | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
Particularly in England there are certain people who don't want to do | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
certain jobs. I worked in France, Australia when I was young. I think | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
it's a fantastic opportunity to discover the world, experience new | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
cultures and earn some money. At the end of the day, if you're earning | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
money in a job and contributing to a system in that country, I can only | :38:09. | :38:16. | |
see that as a positive. Snv Adam? I'm glad you've come back. I'll be | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
honest... You don't know what the question S I had to run to the | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
toilet. I'll be so honest. You've got to do what you've got to do. | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
Personally, I think people are going to go where the work S that's how | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
it's always been. I was watching the news a month ago, and people in | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
Britain are leaving their families behind, like children, to go abroad | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
because the work's there. I think as long as people are going to come to | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
our country and give an input and work hard, I don't see that being a | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
problem. It's the people that come over and exploit it. They just | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
exploit our system, that's wrong. I think British people should feel | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
like they are part of something. You know, I'm not saying that work | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
should go to British people first. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
it always goes to the hard workers. There is jobs out there. It's very | :39:05. | :39:10. | |
hard. There's a limited amount of jobs. At the same time, British | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
people are very aware of what jobs they want to do and what they don't | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
want to do. If Spanish people are going to come over and dot work that | :39:18. | :39:20. | |
necessarily British people don't want to do, it's not a bad thing. | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
People come over, work hard, it's all good. This is your area Lottie. | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
A run a campaign called Million Jobs and the problem for lots of our | :39:30. | :39:33. | |
young people is they don't have the right skills. The education system | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
doesn't teach them how to get a job. It doesn't teach them about writing | :39:38. | :39:44. | |
a CV. We don't have enough really good quality training courses in the | :39:44. | :39:49. | |
-- courses. In the Netherlands, Germany, 75% of young people go on | :39:49. | :39:52. | |
to do really good vocational courses. In this country hardly | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
anyone does. A third of 16 to 19-year-olds that are doing training | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
courses are actually doing one that's are hindering their job | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
prospects not helping them, because they're that low quality. That's | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
ridiculous. It's got to change. The gentleman in the light blue | :40:09. | :40:17. | |
shirt. I love thaw stood up. APPLAUSE | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
British people are just so lazy, that's what it is. You're telling me | :40:21. | :40:27. | |
a British person is actually too good to be a cleaner? They're | :40:28. | :40:36. | |
looking for cleaners. I'll only served two years of my asprentship I | :40:36. | :40:41. | |
had to -- apprenticeship. I had to work my bum off to get where I got | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
to, where I am now. That's is it. I'm from Middlesbrough. That's one | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
of the most deprived areas. It's like one of the worst places for | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
unemployment. If I got told, if someone said to me go get a job, | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
three hours to get three, four jobs, no problem. Some employers don't | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
care so much about qualifications, it's people skills. That's what we | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
need to go back through schools, colleges, get everyone clued up on | :41:10. | :41:16. | |
people skills. Once you've got that you go far. II think it's strange | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
that most people agree that free trade with other countries is | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
generally good but free movement of people isn't. But they're two sides | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
of the same coin. In Britain, immigrants as a whole are a net | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
contribution to taxation. The whole idea that they come over and take | :41:31. | :41:38. | |
our benefits and stuff is completely wrong because they're actually a net | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
contribution to us. Without immigrants in the UK we would have a | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
wider deficit. I don't understand how people can think they're helping | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
the economy is synonymous with stopping immigration. What we're | :41:51. | :41:57. | |
starting to talk about here is the EU and whether it's helping or | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
hindering job prospects for young people. Have a look at this: | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
I'm 25 and I'm Dutch. I've been living in Manchester for almost a | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
year now. I fell in love while I was travelling. I just moved to England | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
because I want to be with him. It was easy for me to come to the UK. | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
It's part of the EU. Different cultures can bring different skills | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
and ideas to different countries. I'm Melissa. I'm 20 years old. I've | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
never been to Europe. I've never been out of the UK. I think that the | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
UK should leave the EU. I don't think that we can afford to be in | :42:32. | :42:38. | |
the EU. The UK is giving out more than what we get back. The UK | :42:38. | :42:44. | |
doesn't have a choice in bail United States. -- bail outs. I work for | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
Reclaim, a youth mentoring charity. I'm concerned about youth | :42:48. | :42:50. | |
unemployment in the EU at the moment. It's mainly the young people | :42:50. | :42:54. | |
who suffer. I can understand people's concerns when it comes to | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
European people taking jobs in different countries, but then, I | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
think we should definitely stick together and face this crisis as a | :43:04. | :43:09. | |
big community. Think there will be less jobs if we stay in the EU. So | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
many people from different countries are in these jobs. Even people who | :43:12. | :43:19. | |
live here won't have a chance to get them. I don't feel European. I feel | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
British. You obviously are very much in favour of the EU? Yes, | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
definitely. Because I'm from Holland. It's been so easy for me to | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
move to the UK. I didn't need a visa. I found a job straight away. I | :43:34. | :43:41. | |
work for a youth charity Reclaim in Manchester. For me, it's been a | :43:41. | :43:51. | |
:43:51. | :43:51. | ||
really good experience to be part of the EU. I think Alex an threea | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
disagree with you, I think? I'm completely pro-immigration but we | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
need to look at what... I'm entirely pro opening borders, like everyone | :44:02. | :44:07. | |
coming to a country who can contribute to a country, but, like, | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
you can't just let people come in somewhere and have free housing and | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
free everything, which you do have. As Kristina says there is a net | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
benefit that comes from immigrants. Whilst yes, I'm in UKIP, I hate the | :44:22. | :44:27. | |
fact that my party, well my party say that it's OK, they're against | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
the fact that you can be anyone European despite your skills you can | :44:32. | :44:34. | |
come straight into the UK. What about the Commonwealth, and the rest | :44:34. | :44:40. | |
of the world? We want people to be taken on a case by case basis. If | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
you have good skills, if you want to contribute, then yes, you should be | :44:46. | :44:53. | |
allowed. So, should we leave the EU? Are migrant workers affecting UK | :44:53. | :45:03. | |
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Are migrant workers affecting UK Partly, but if they are hardworking | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
- I am not being funny, but I have mates back home that say they can't | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
find a job. "I can't find a job." I am like, hold on. You're not | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
looking, so you don't deserve a job then. If someone is coming over and | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
really working hard to find a job, I would say they deserve it. If | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
they're going to do a job to the same level I am - over here, as | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
well, it does take a certain type of person to come and work abroad. | :45:29. | :45:35. | |
Anyone can come here and try to work abroad. I came out with a | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
working abroad company, but you see all the time - even other workers - | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
they're here for two weeks or a month iefrpltsz not for them. They | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
can't hack it. It is hard work. Yeah, we have fun over here. We get | :45:48. | :45:53. | |
to wake up to 30-degree heat. We get to lounge by the pool and you | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
meet fantastic people. It is hard work. I work harder back here than | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
I do at home. You have a summer of a lifetime, but it is hard work. | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
The managers don't take it if you turn up to work drunk or late. They | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
don't cut the slak. That's it. You're gone. Back here you might | :46:11. | :46:15. | |
have five, six, seven mornings. Out here, you're gone. You have to work | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
hard and be on your game. Lottie raised a really important point as | :46:20. | :46:26. | |
far as we need the look at the education system giving people the | :46:26. | :46:28. | |
right skills. There are parents and children who haven't been able to | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
read and write going through the education system and not attaining | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
skills. How then can they apply for a job? Forget the cleaner's job. | :46:35. | :46:39. | |
They haven't been able to fill in the application form. I think | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
somebody in the audience said about going back and teaching people from | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
a young age the basic skills, but encourage them in a system that | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
benefits them instead of keeping them in a historic education system | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
that is so outdated. We're constantly turning over people that | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
aren't prepared for work. problem is you ask most British | :47:00. | :47:05. | |
teens, "Do you want to be a cleaner in McDonald's?" They're going to | :47:05. | :47:11. | |
tell you no. I agree with you completely. It's that thing of we | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
need people that are going to do the work or it's not going to get | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
done. It's as simple as that. think immigrants are stealing | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
people's jobs in the UK? No. We really need diversity. It's key to | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
the survival of any organisation. The problem back home - I run a | :47:28. | :47:32. | |
work experience programme where people can get the skills they need, | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
get CV advice and interview technique advice - all of them have | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
got jobs from that now. It's a catch-22 situation where they come | :47:41. | :47:45. | |
out of uni- I don't have work experience, and I can't get a job | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
because I don't have work experience. It's something | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
employers need to focus on and see the potential in people instead of | :47:52. | :48:02. | |
:48:02. | :48:15. | ||
ticking boxes in recruitment. I don't know if any reps want to | :48:16. | :48:25. | |
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defend themselves here? There's one Moving abroad is the easy option - | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
Power Bar next. We have reset it again. Adam, you're in the lead. | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
Maybe it's the fact you went to the toilet halfway through the show. | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
What can I say? People always like that. Next up, the age of consent - | :48:44. | :48:46. | |
teacher Jeremy Forrest, aged 30, has been jailed for five-and-a-half | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
years after pleading guilty to charges of abducting and having sex | :48:50. | :48:54. | |
with a 15-year-old girl. We asked you about this on our social media | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
pages. We had a huge response. Many of your comments were about the age | :48:57. | :49:04. | |
of consent. In Spain the Government has just announced they'll raise | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
the age of legal consent from 13 to 16. We hit the beaches to find out | :49:09. | :49:14. | |
how old British holidaymakers were the first time they - you know. | :49:14. | :49:23. | |
17 was when I first had sex. I was 15. I was 15. I was 15. I waited | :49:23. | :49:28. | |
until I was more of a committed relationship. It was kind of a big | :49:28. | :49:33. | |
decision to make. I was 13. It was over and done with in no time. | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
15 when I first had sex. I was with a boyfriend, so it was probably | :49:39. | :49:45. | |
best. When I was 14. When I first had sex I was 16. It lasted no | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
longer than 16 seconds. I think you should just do it whenever you feel | :49:49. | :49:52. | |
like doing it if you're comfortable. That's it. And Ellie has a question. | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
Where's Ellie? Hello. What do you want to ask? Should the age of | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
consent ever be lowered? Should the age of consent ever be lowered? | :50:01. | :50:05. | |
Let's get 30 seconds on the screen for you. I don't think it should | :50:05. | :50:10. | |
because let's be real, yeah? You know, 13-year-olds, 14-year-olds, | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
they're going to have sex. It does happen. If we lowered that and said | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
fiemts to do that, what, is it going to be lower and lower? Is it | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
going to be ten and nine-year-olds experimenting with sex? The fact of | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
it isn't that 16 - it's there for a reason, man. If I had a daughter | :50:27. | :50:35. | |
and found out she had sex at 13, I'm going to be priseded -- pitzed. | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
I am not going to be cool with that. It's family values. They're putting | :50:40. | :50:44. | |
it up to 16 in September. The law is there for a reason. The law is | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
there to protect under 16s from being abused by older people. | :50:48. | :50:56. | |
That's a really important law. The NSPCC the other day said lowering | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
the age of consent beggars believe. Would you keep it where it is or | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
even raise it? I would keep it where it is. I think the average | :51:03. | :51:08. | |
age of people having sex is 16 to 18. 16 seems appropriate, but we | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
need to look at the ages more generally, but as of last year, you | :51:12. | :51:16. | |
can't leave school until you're 18. It definitely shouldn't be going | :51:16. | :51:21. | |
down to 13. It terrifies me the age of ever bringing the concept age | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
down. The police aren't stupid. They don't go around prosecuting | :51:27. | :51:29. | |
15-year-olds having sex with 15- year-olds. It is there to protect | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
people from exploitation. I also think the idea a 13-year-old young | :51:33. | :51:39. | |
person - let's be honest - a lot of us look back at their first | :51:39. | :51:42. | |
experience and think it probably wasn't the best thing I did - | :51:42. | :51:47. | |
certainly wasn't the best sex I had. At the age of 13, to make that | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
conscious decision and live with it - people do, do it. You're right. | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
But actually, should we be concentrating on teaching people | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
about good relationships, positive experiences. I've got children. I | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
would really like them, whatever their age, to have sex for the | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
first time with someone they care about, respect and spend a little | :52:08. | :52:12. | |
bit of time with, so teach it up there and educate them a little bit | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
more about relationships. Where's Tilly? You live in Spain. You're a | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
young person. How have people reacted to the news that the age of | :52:19. | :52:22. | |
consent is going to be raised in Spain? Well, you've got to think | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
that most of the families over here that do actually stay on the island | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
all year around - you've got young kids and families over here. They | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
live in Magaluf. You can't think the whole strip is just full of | :52:33. | :52:37. | |
young teens. They're not. There's young children around, so they see | :52:37. | :52:42. | |
it day in, day out. I agree it should be up to the age of 16, and | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
they should teach them more in the state schools that there are over | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
here. Does anyone here think that the age of consent should be | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
lowered? I don't think it should be lowered, but I think if you have | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
13-year-olds sleeping with 13-year- olds or a 14-year-old sleeping with | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
a 14-year-old, there is a point you have to look at it and think, 14, | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
14 - if they're in a position whether they have been together or | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
just having sex, you can't control your hormones at the end of the day. | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
Over here. I don't think it should be lowered, but I think it's about | :53:14. | :53:18. | |
education in schools because 12 and 1-year-olds can have kids. If they | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
get taught in schools about safe sex and condoms from an earlier age, | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
I think it will help allot. walk around Spain, and you're not | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
seeing loads of single mothers carrying prams at the age of 13. Do | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
you get what I'm saying? You get that in Britain. The fact of it | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
isn't, it's definitely a cultural thing. We've lost certain family | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
values in Britain where sex doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
sex. Do you know what I mean? It's not about starting a family, the | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
fact you're in love with someone else. It's just about sex. I think | :53:50. | :53:53. | |
lowering it would be the worst thing we can do. I think we need to | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
keep it how is it and educate young people in the consequences of, if | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
you make that choice, your life is going to be affected. If you have a | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
child at 13, your life could turn out a different way, so education. | :54:05. | :54:11. | |
The gentleman at the back. I don't see the difference between sleeping | :54:11. | :54:17. | |
with someone at 16 or the day after it. How can it be any different? | :54:17. | :54:21. | |
Having sex with young people illegality - if there wasn't a law | :54:21. | :54:30. | |
there - if a man of 50 was sleeping with a child of 12, we have to have | :54:30. | :54:36. | |
a law. If two 15-year-olds having sex and clearly love each other, | :54:36. | :54:46. | |
:54:46. | :54:46. | ||
don't put them in prison We need to protect young people. The age of | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
consent - it's not like looking over your shoulder for the police. | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
It's more of a moral guideline. Lowering it would say, morally, we | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
feel it's fine for 13-year-olds to have sex. As a moral guideline, it | :54:57. | :55:03. | |
needs to be 16. My sister is 16. I think it needs to be 25. | :55:03. | :55:07. | |
Exactly. Let us know what you think. What are people saying about that | :55:07. | :55:17. | |
:55:17. | :55:27. | ||
online? Loads of messages coming in Let's have a look at the Power Bar | :55:27. | :55:32. | |
to see who has won this debate. Adam, it's you, but the final 30 | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
seconds of the show goes to the panellist who has had the most | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
amount of online support for the whole show, and I can reveal the | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
winner of the Power Bar in Magaluf, Free Speech on the Beach, is Adam. | :55:47. | :55:50. | |
Congratulations. Thank you.Your 30 seconds starts when you start | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
speaking. I just think it's all about responsibility. You come | :55:54. | :55:59. | |
abroad. Be responsible, yeah? You're having sex, be responsible. | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
I think the education system needs to be fixed up. When I was having | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
sexual education, it was all about how to put a condom on, this, and | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
that. It's all about the rawness of it. I think if Government are | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
watching this, listen to the young people because they're having a | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
hard time right now. Young people are losing their jobs and their | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
flats. Listen to - I just think young people are being penalised | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
and they're under a lot of pressure right now, so listen to the young | :56:23. | :56:29. | |
people and educate them. That's it. Thank you very much. Thanks to our | :56:30. | :56:33. | |
audience, our panel and to you at home for sending in your comments. | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
The debate continues online. Join us next time live on August 7th at | :56:36. | :56:39. |