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The -- good afternoon. Welcome to the Scottish Parliament. Lots going

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on as ever. The economy and controversy over the anti-

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sectarianism bill. Still that controversy over the potential

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impact of independence on energy policy. Let's see how many of those

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topics come up in First Minister's Questions.

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Today will be the Deputy First Minister answering the questions as

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Alex Salmond is currently abroad. Let's listen in. To ask the Deputy

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First Minister what engagements she has planned for the rest are the

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day. Can I begin today by paying tribute to Campbell Christie, a

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true giant of Scottish public life? His pot -- his contribution to

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Scotland speaks for itself. A key campaigner of this Parliament and

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chairman of Falkirk Football Club. Latterly, he was to chair of the

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Christie commission into public sector reform. His legacy is

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immense and it will undoubtedly stand the test of time. I am sure

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that the chamber will want to send our condolences to his family at

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this sad time. Later today, will have meetings to take forward the

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Government's programme for Scotland. Those were welcome words from a

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Deputy First Minister regarding Campbell. I look forward to

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celebrating his life at Falkirk Football Stadium tomorrow. Analysts

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from Citigroup this week are telling global clients not to

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invest in Scotland because of the Government's separatist agenda. Is

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it not now clear that the uncertainty created by a separation

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referendum is going to damage this country's economy? You know, I

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looked very closely at Iain Gray as he asked that question, just to see

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if he was at all shamefaced? Won the very morning when we learn that

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there is �400 billion of revenue still to be extracted from the

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North Sea, only Iain Gray could stand up and questioned Scotland's

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ability to be independent. On the question of the city gripped report,

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we disagree with it and think it is wrong. It is based on two

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fundamental flops. Firstly, the report ignores the reality. The

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reality is that investment is happening now. In the context of

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alive independence debate, �750 million in the last 12 months.

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Mitsubishi and others. That is the reality. The second false

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assumption, the erroneous assumption, that somehow post-

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independence the rest of the UK will no longer buys Scottish energy.

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It is patent nonsense. I know Iain Gray is not normally one to miss

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the opportunity to clutch at any passing straw, but today he really

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have excelled himself. I looked very closely at the news about the

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potential of Aberdeen and I believe that it has that potential. What

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that report says is that that potential will only be realised if

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we have a transparent and stable fiscal regime. The very thing the

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City group is saying that they are jeopardising. But, you know, if

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they Deputy First Minister want listen to investors on energy, what

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about the engineers? In 25 minutes, the Institution of Mechanical

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Engineers will brief the report about Scottish energy in this

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building. It will say of the SNP's 100% renewables plan, this cannot

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be justified from an engineering perspective. It will say there are

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currently no credible strategies from the technical point of view

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published by the Government. It will say, without far reaching

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changes in government policy, the target will not be met. I think

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Scottish engineers are the best in the world. Does the Deputy First

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Minister think she knows better than them? To go back to the news

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from Aberdeen, Iain Gray talks about fiscal arrangements. Has it

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escaped his notice that the fiscal arrangements that have the

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potential to damage our North Sea potential are those from the UK

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Government? That is a point that he has ignored. And let me say this.

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Iain Gray asks who knows best? Will, I ask him if he thinks he knows

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better than Roy MacGregor, the chairman of Global Energy Group.

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This is what he has to say. The investment is happening in full

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knowledge of the Scottish Government's plan for a referendum.

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Renewables are being deployed in part thanks to that First Minister

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who has demonstrated a vision that investors want to see. Scotland's

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ability to produce power is a massive asset and one that is

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prospering. You know, just for once, Iain Gray could maybe give up the

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opportunity to come to this chamber and talks got wind down. -- and it

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talks Scotland down. I did see the letter in the press. I just thought

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that Roy MacGregor saw it first. That is a very welcome investment

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by a Scottish company, but the Deputy First Minister is still

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answering question one. Question to was about to what Scottish

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engineers are saying about the SNP's energy policy. They are

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saying that energy policy has to be based on an understanding of energy

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supply technologies, not political expediency. They are trying to be

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polite, but we're talking about Alex Salmond. Is the Deputy First

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Minister going to listen, or is she going to send Kevin Pringle of to

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forge a new engineering report in the Professor's names? Iain Gray is

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so predictable at first minister's questions that I actually answered

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question to in answer one. I pointed to the massive renewables

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investment currently underway in Scotland. �750 million of new

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renewable energy and -- L it is today project began generating in

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Scotland in the last 12 months. There is a pipeline of 17 gigawatts

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worth of projects. At total capital investment of �46 billion, ready to

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create thousands of new jobs for Scotland. I don't think the

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contrast -- the stark contrast between Iain Gray and the First

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Minister will be lost on anybody today. The First Minister overseas

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fighting Scotland's corner, winning investment for Scotland. Iain Gray,

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at home, talking Scotland down. As usual. Can we have a brief final

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question and answer? There are none so death as those who will not here.

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This report says... This report says there is no credible plan,

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there is no credible pipeline, there is no route map to achieving

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the SNP's renewable energy targets. The SNP say this is their key

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policy for Scotland's future. But they have not got a clue about it.

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Investors say they referendum makes it unsupportable and separation

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makes it an affordable. But the people who actually build the

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technology on the ground say it is technically undeliverable. Last

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week, the First Minister had to apologise for misleading Parliament.

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Isn't he misleading Scotland on energy every day of every week?

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There is a renewables route map published by this government. I

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suggest Iain Gray reads it. The companies are investing. Mitsubishi,

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design and a messiah. Iain Gray talks about people not wanting to

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hear. -- Mitsubishi and two other companies. There was a quote that

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it was time for Labour to realise that it is not that people don't

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hear the message, it is people don't like what they are hearing

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from Scottish Labour. I think it is time that Iain Gray paid attention

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to that very message. To ask the Deputy First Minister when she will

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next meet the Secretary of State for Scotland. Sadly, I have no

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plans to meet the Secretary of State for Scotland in the near

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future. This week's Citigroup report was not actually talking

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about oil and gas. It was talking about SNP energy policy,

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particularly renewable power. What it specifically warned that -- was

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that an independent Scotland would require an annual subsidy of �4

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billion. That is an estimated height of �900 per household. Their

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Deputy First Minister described the report as wrong and flawed. Can she

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tell me which bit of these estimates is wrong and flogged? If

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she can't, how can she possibly justifies such an intolerable

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burden on Scotland? Can I say to Annabel Goldie, and I am sure she

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will be relieved to hear this, I don't intend to replicate the love-

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in between her and Alex Salmond of last week. But Savill recognise

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that it is her last appearance here and I thank her for her

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contribution. I wish her well in the future on behalf of the whole

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chamber. I disagree with of the conclusions in the City Group

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report. It is interesting to note that the Tories have learned

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nothing in 15 years. John Major said in 1997, it will frighten off

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inward investment. What he was talking about them was devolution.

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Labour said then that he was wrong. They have now adopted the Tory

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responses. The fact of the matter is that renewables is as success

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story. -- a success story in Scotland. It is something we're

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doing incredibly well and have the potential to do even better in.

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Surely even the opposition parties in this Parliament can find it

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within themselves to get behind this Government's ambition? I refer

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to her specific point in my previous answer. Peter Jones makes

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this point in the Times newspaper today. This report is based on the

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air warriors get assumption that after independence the rest of the

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UK would not by renewable energy from Scotland. In order to get

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anywhere near their obligations, Dean Eades Scottish Renewables.

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That is the reality. The Deputy First Minister may rest assured I

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shall not conduct a love-in. But I shall thank her for her kind

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remarks. I have immensely enjoyed my position as leader of my party

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in Scotland. Do not give up hope, dear. I am accustomed -- there was

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no surprise that the comment from the First Minister to the report

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was, so what? But the reality is that in an independent Scotland

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when we are generating nearly all of our own energy from renewables,

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somebody has to foot the bill. Either households and businesses...

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It is interesting how uncomfortable the SNP is. Either, households and

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businesses fork out much more money than they are doing at the moment

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to pay their bills, or tax is increased to let government pay the

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subsidy. Why doesn't she first met, the best way to maintaining and

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energy supply at affordable levels in Scotland is for Scotland to stay

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within the United Kingdom? response to Annabel Goldie's

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earlier remarks, I think I can say without fear of contradiction that

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I am probably the only Deputy Leader in this Parliament that can

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say I am perfectly happy with my current leader, thank you. At the

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end of for a question, I was not sure if she was going to extol the

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virtues of the Union up or nuclear power. On both, I think the Tories

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are increasingly out of touch. Let me make this simple for her. In

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order to get anywhere near the renewable energy obligations that

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the UK Government has to meet, it is going to need Scottish

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Renewables. The price they pay for that Scottish energy will reflect

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that. This is a success story for Scotland. This is a near the Opera

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Scotland has the potential for enormous growth and great job

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creation. I think it is time all members of this Parliament got

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behind the renewables revolution in Scotland and stopped talking it

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As the Deputy First Minister is aware, the decision to consult the

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future of the factory in my constituency. Dodgy share my

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concern that this consultation should be genuine, Oban and

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hopeful? If worst comes to worst, can she did meet assurances that a

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Scottish Government will be able to step in and help the employees?

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am aware of this situation, and I can understand his concern and the

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deep concern of his constituents. The news of plans to end production

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is obviously extremely disappointing. I want to reassure

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him that the Scottish Government's team have already made contact with

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the company to see what assistance can be offered to those employees

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affected by this announcement. We stand ready to help in any way we

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can. What issues will be discussed at the next meeting of the Cabinet?

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At the next meeting of the Cabinet, we will discuss issues of

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importance to the people of Scotland. Over 1000 deaths and

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countless acts of anti-social behaviour in Scotland. As a result

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of the abuse of cheap alcohol. How concerned is the Deputy First

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Minister that the details are Oakley -- openly promoted, to get

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around the law agreed by this Parliament last year? Will she join

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me in condemning misbehaviour? thank Willie Rennie for an

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important question. The quantity discount than in my view is

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extremely important. If it stops someone going into a supermarket

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intending to buy only one bottle of wine and then buying three, that is

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a step in the right direction. But make no mistake, the quantity

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discount ban was intended to operate in conjunction with minimum

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pricing, and it will be much stronger when it does operate in

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conjunction with minimum pricing. And I welcome Willie Rennie's

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comments, and can I welcome him in his party's support for minimum

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pricing. And look forward to persuading others that it is the

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right thing to do. Big business has already tried to undermine the

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democratic will of this Parliament on the 2010 legislation. As she

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points out, we support alcohol minimum pricing, as do others in

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the parliament. Some businesses get it as well, and support the plans.

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But others do not understand that they have a social responsibility

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to the communities in which they operate. Big businesses lost the

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argument on the need for strong action on alcohol. Now they resort

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to threats of legal tactics using their wealth and might. What

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message does the Deputy First Minister have for big business

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acting in this destructive way? How is this government going to get the

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message out to them that they need to back off? He is spot on to

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mention and highlight the fact that significant and key players in the

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alcohol industry do now support minimum pricing. I welcome that.

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And again, I look forward to persuading other members and other

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parts of the industry as well. Companies will take their own

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decisions, and it is their right to do so. But if this Bill does pass,

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I really hope that companies and indeed others across Scotland will

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recognise the clear will of this Parliament, and I hope they will

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act in a socially responsible manner. There is no doubt in my

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mind that minimum pricing, while it is not a magic solution, in and of

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itself it will not solve our problem, it is an essential part of

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a comprehensive approach. It is the missing bit of the jigsaw, and I

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look forward today when this Parliament put that right. -- to

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the day. To ask the Deputy First Minister how the Scottish

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Government can alleviate the financial pressures of charities

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and voluntary organisations? third sector has a major role in

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Scotland's future, especially during a period of austerity. Over

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the next three years, we will provide �73.5 million to the sector.

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This compares to funding of �62.1 million so that this year's of the

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last administration. Despite the difficult financial pressures, this

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represents an increase of funding of �18.3 million. I thank the

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Deputy First Minister for her assurances. As has been noted,

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Campbell Christie is sorely missed. In his report last June, he

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highlighted that we must prioritise expenditure on public services

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which prevent negative outcomes from arising. Will she ensure that

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women and children with experience of domestic abuse in Caithness,

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Sutherland and Ross Show and across Scotland get the level of funding

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for the services they need from the Scottish Government as a lead

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partner in their support, and urge local authorities to maintain and

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improve their own contributions, and not that these vital funds?

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agree absolutely with both the detail and the thrust of his

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question. It touches on the importance of preventative spending,

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something that John Swinney in his recent Budget prioritise. It also

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highlights the importance of the work of many organisations working

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to combat violence against women. I met with some of them this week.

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What gives them will be aware that the quality budget in the draft

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budget has been maintained, not withstanding the circumstances we

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face. And I would very much hope that subject to due process, that

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will allow us to continue the good financial support we give to

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organisations like women's aid to enable them to do the vital work

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they do. Will the Deputy First Minister agree that a cut of five %

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to the funding of Coatbridge will have a huge impact on their ability

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to sustain services, and what action can she take to ensure that

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my constituents do not suffer a withdrawal curtailment of these

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services? Absolutely, I appreciate and recognised the vital work that

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cab does. I used to in a previous life work in this sector myself,

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not for them but I know the importance of that work. The legal

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aid budget for advice services is being protected clearly. The

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financial circumstances we live in, which are outside the control of

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this parliament, are having an impact in many areas. But we will

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continue to do what we can to protect frontline services and

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prioritise spending on preventative measures. And organisations like

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Cab have our utmost support and respect. As to ask the First

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Minister what the Scottish Government is doing to ensure that

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respite provision for carers is available across Scotland? Can I

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begin by thanking carers across Scotland for the commitment and

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support they provide. I would also want to begin by at very open

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recognition that there is still much we need to do to ensure that

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respite provision for carers is adequate in all parts of Scotland.

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But it is the case that we have increased the number of respite

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weeks by more than 10,000. That will benefit carers, and I would

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hope that Jackie Baillie and other members would welcome that

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achievement. So I thank her for her response, and joined with her in

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acknowledged in the valuable work that carers do. But will she share

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my disappointment that over one third of Scottish councils are

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cutting respite provision, and does she really believe it is right that

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there is double-counting of respite care? A seven-night stay in a

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residential home kinds somehow as two-and-a-half weeks of respite

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care. And does she agree with the statistical service which has

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acknowledged the double counting, effectively confirming that

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Scotland's careers have been misled and let down? I regret the tone of

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Jackie Baillie's question. Because I did try to be constructive in my

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previous answer. I do think this is an area of real importance, and we

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have more to do. And I readily acknowledge that. Jackie Baillie is

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not strictly accurate on her point about the difficulties of data

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collection, which we did acknowledge. The point she raises

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means the figures are not comparable between councils, but it

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does not affect the changes and the increase in respite weeks over time.

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I do recognise we have more to do here, all of us owe an enormous

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debt of gratitude to carers, and that debt has to be expressed in

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tangible and meaningful ways. That is why we are investing �3 million

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this year for short breaks. It is why we have said very clearly that

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the changes Fund, 20 % of that has to go on support for carers. I

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recognised the real progress that has been made here, but I also

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recognise the fact that we still have work to do in improving

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provision generally, and making sure that improvement is consistent

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across the country. I would hope this of all issues is one we could

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UNITE on and get behind the efforts of the government to see

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improvements. Given that the charitable, voluntary and

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independent sectors can provide high quality respite care at

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competitive rates, how will the Deputy First Minister ensure they

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are given equal access and consideration in the tender process

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for respite care? I mentioned in my previous answer investment of �3

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million. Last year, we invested �1 million, that is increasing to �3

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million this year for short breaks, provision by the voluntary sector.

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The role of the voluntary sector cannot be overstated. It is vital.

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I also mention that change Fund and the 20 % set aside in that for

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carers, support for carers. The involvement of the voluntary sector

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in that is also vital. These are all legitimate. Backs, and I

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recognise and take them on board. We are going in the right direction,

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but there is still a lot for us to do. Can ask what actions the

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Scottish Government is taking to tackle knife crime? Every single

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knife incident is one too many. Latest official statistics show a

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downward trajectory in the fight Against bats, but there will be no

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let up in our efforts. That is why only this week following a doubling

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of funding, the Justice Secretary has announced the roll-out of the

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No Knives, Better Lives campaign to six new areas of Scotland. I thank

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the Deputy First Minister for her reply. Bill the Government welcome

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the publication this week of the Scottish crime and just a survey,

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which shows these benefit of police in our communities. I do indeed

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welcome that survey, published this week, showing that overall crime is

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down significantly. Recorded crime is at a 35 year low. I think that

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is directly related to give 1000 extra police officers put on the

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streets of Scotland by this Justice Secretary and this government. And

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our commitment to keeping them there will help drive crime down

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even further. I was disturbed to read in that survey the link

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between crime and particularly violent crime and alcohol, of which

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simply strengthens my resolve to take tough action so insulting and

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addressing our problem with alcohol issues.

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Coming to the close of our coverage of First Minister's Questions.

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Certainly no nothing, despite Annabel Goldie's last day. Iain

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Gray and Annabel Goldie focused on the city Group report on the impact

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on energy in Scotland, it provided them with meat and substance. But

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there was time for Annabel Goldie to suggest to Nicola Sturgeon that

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her time might come in its own time to be leader of the SNP. Nicola

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Sturgeon declaring she was privately content with her current

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