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Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Hello

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They haven't gone away, you know. That was the message from the Ulster

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Unionist Ross Hussey as he condemned the attempted murder of a former

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police officer on Friday morning. The man discovered a bomb under his

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car as he was about to take his daughter to school.

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Myself and many members of this house have just returned from a

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service of commemoration for those who made the ultimate sacrifice in

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service to their Queen and country. But for the vigilance of a former

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officer, we could be remembering him here today as well. But if we look

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at the history of the car bomb and those who planted under car booby

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traps, we can see a direct link. We can see a direct link to the

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provisional IRA. And those that planted this bomb, in my opinion,

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have a directly to that organisation. Someone once said,

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they have not gone away, you know. I think it is quite clear they have

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not gone away and they are still here. And those who skulk around in

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the darkness, those who have evil in their hearts, they want to drag us

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back to those days when it was common to turn on your news bulletin

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and listen to incidents about bullets and bombs and murder and

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mayhem. But society is not going back there. There is no rhyme or

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reason, there is no logic that can start over an attack and in this

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case we have a man who has retired, who is trying to get on with his

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life, and people would perhaps still try and put out some sort of reason

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for this attack. There is no reason. This type of vicious attack has no

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place in our society going forward. This act of violence has little or

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nothing to do with any sort of meaningful politics or, dare I say

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it, republicanism. This attack was a couple of streets away from my own

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home. I came across the incident haven't done the school run myself.

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To target someone in this way in a built-up area with no consideration

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for wealth could have been injured is beyond contempt.

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Judith Cochrane of the Alliance Party adding her voice to the

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condemnation of Friday's attempted bomb attack. And joining me now is

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the commentator Alex Kane. Some pretty strong words from Ross Hussey

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and other Unionists in the chamber. It is interesting what he is saying.

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Is he saying the provisional IRA are involved? In which case, it is the

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provisional is linked to Sinn Fein. If it is the former, it raises very

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serious questions about the Ulster Unionists party and whether they

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should be sharing power with Sinn Fein. But he left that incredibly

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vague. What are you saying? He did not make the distinction. If he is

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saying the Provisionals have not gone away, it does ask huge

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questions. Is it part of a wider operation? And if he does believe

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that, what does it say about Ulster Unionists staying in power with Sinn

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Fein? I think it is a strange irony now that on one hand you have Ross

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Hussey saying it is the Provisionals who have not gone away but others

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saying they have gone away. But yet again, when they should be

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concentrating on the fact a police officer, a former police officer,

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his life could have been in danger, that yet again it became another

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peculiar type of point-scoring exercise. The Environment Minister

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appeared to rule out any national parks in Northern Ireland, certainly

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in the near future. That was a big issue of his predecessor Alex

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Attwood. Is this him stabbing his personal mark on the portfolio? This

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is the second time in a week. It was the planning Bill last week. I think

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he is saying, I make decision and I am not going to fritter around in

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the background. I think it is a stamp of authority and it is

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welcome. What does it mean to you, not scrapping it, just shelving it?

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I think it is dead. He may not even be the Minister. We will speak to

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you a bit later in the programme. Thank you very much.

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The Environment Minister Mark H Durkan has shelved a bill that would

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bring national parks to Northern Ireland. The decision came to light

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during Question Time today when planning was also on the agenda.

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The longest outstanding planning response is for application S 2007

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13720 which is for a mixed-use development. This consultation was

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issued on January 21, 2009 following an initial consultation with public

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health. I suspect that there are many other examples of three or four

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years delay for a response to consultations and this is actually

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coming up the planning system. The first minister believes there should

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be a requirement by other consul tees to respond within a specified

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time, otherwise it is assumed they have no comment to make. Thank you,

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Mr Speaker. As the previous Minister for the environment was only too

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aware how this works and how, in sadly, too many cases it does not

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work properly and it does not work fast enough. It is something I am

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looking very hard and very seriously at as we move towards moving the

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planning powers towards councils. It is something I will be aiming to

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pursue. National parks take this is a globally recognised brand and as a

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result is a key draw in attracting tourists and boosting the local

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economy. Furthermore, national parks also have a role in protecting and

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enhancing natural heritage. However, I am also aware of opposition to

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national parks in Northern Ireland and the concerns of Landover is --

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landowners over what designation might mean to them. Given the level

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of this opposition, I don't believe now is the correct time to proceed

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with national parks. Can he take it from someone who represents the area

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that there is widespread opposition to the creation of a national park.

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As one individual has described it, it is necessary, expensive and

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dictatorial. Will his department now work with the farming union in a way

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that is beneficial rather than something that would have been to

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the detriment. In my opinion, the result the opposition to national

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parks has been so strong and so by Severus is largely due to fear and

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fear of the unknown. My department will happily engage with the farming

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community but I think it is important we do so on the basis of

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building partnership working on the ground, not just the farming

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community but also with those in support of national parks and to

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recognise the value they can have two an area. It is important that

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this partnership approach is taken and that maybe, just maybe, sometime

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in the future, people's opposition might reduce. That is why I am not

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scrapping the national parks built but I am shelving it. Mark H Durkan

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explaining his decision not to proceed with plans to develop

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national parks here. The Enterprise Minister also faced

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questions today and she was asked how her department can help save the

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Exploris Aquarium in Portaferry. But first, Arlene Foster answered a

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question about the impact of potential loyalist flag protests in

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Belfast over Christmas. I think we have got to recognise

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that protests of any nature in the city centre will have an impact on

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trade, particularly if it is in and around the peak shopping times and

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therefore I will renew my call which I made the last time I was on my

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feet in this house during question time that there needs to be dialogue

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between those planning any protests and the people who are most rapidly

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affected. Can I thank the Minister for that reply. I am well aware of

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the previous comments on that but in light of that, can I ask her whether

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she has managed to have any contact with the protest organisers, more

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particularly the retailers themselves to discuss the matter? I

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have been speaking to the retailers throughout the original protest

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time. He will realise it was my department who took the lead in the

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Belfast campaign which was hugely successful and very much appreciated

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by not only the traders but the restaurant owners and bar owners in

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Belfast. In relation to the difficulties in the local economy,

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can the Minister advisers the much promised peace dividend, is that of

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the table from the British government? No, I think the member

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is aware of the economic pact which we are seeing developed and just

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last week I attended a seminar in London with the Secretary of State,

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jointly hosted by both of us, and at that event we hosted 16 regions and

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countries from around the world where we see opportunities and that

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was carried out in Lancaster house in London so I don't accept that the

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much vaunted, to use his words, peace dividend has gone. I think our

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national government are very much alongside us in trying to sell

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Northern Ireland is a good place to do business. If I called back to you

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the words of the Prime Minister from October when he said that Northern

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Ireland was a spectacular place to do business, I think those are very

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strong words from the Prime Minister. I had a very good meeting

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with Jim Shannon Empey on October 23 when I confirmed that the Northern

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Ireland tourist board has provided over 1.8 million since 1991 -- Jim

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Shannon Empey. While there is currently no financial support

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available to help explore both the tourist board and invest Northern

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Ireland are available to work with the Council on marketing activity

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and business planning to increase the commission 30 of the project.

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Ness Requiring executive support? Well as I indicated to the previous

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question, I await any proposals in relation to the issue, I

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particularly await to see the commerciality of the proposals and

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the sustainability for the future. Any of us want to make sure that

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Exploris gets the stay of execution lifted but we want to see it lifted

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not to come back on another day, we want to make sure that any saving of

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Exploris will make sure that it lasts into the future. Therefore,

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there is a need for it for it to be commercial and not non-ing the

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status quo. The important thing here is that if we are able to help and

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assist Exploris we will do so in a way that will make it commercially

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viable and sustainable into the future, so it does not have to keep

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relying on public funds into the longer term.

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The culture arts and leisure men stir has welcome add report looking

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at gaps in child protection in safeguarding across the sector.

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Bringing the motion to the chamber the DUP's Michelle McIlveen who

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chaired the committee said members hope highlighting best practise will

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bridge provement Protection and safeguarding standards the KPS have

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helped establish have taken considerable effort to achieve.

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These standards represent best practise which can be used to

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identify gaps and remedy them in other sector, the committee was

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conscious in this investigation of the individuals and groups which are

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privately and outside the system. Particularly self-employed persons.

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They are not part of the regulation process, and the commit -- committee

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believes efforts must be made to reach out to them. In has been a

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valuable exercise and the committee was impressed by the work many

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organisations have been involved in, to ensure they are fulfilling

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responsibilities. A notable aspect has been an

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involving back down drop to that work which continued to inform the

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committee on the importance of developing policy in this area. It

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illustrated the serious and complex nature of safeguarding children and

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vulnerable people. That backdrop, Mr Speaker has been the revelations of

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instances of abuse by celebrity, which was visited on young

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vulnerable people over many decade, most notable of which was the Savile

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case. Sum examples had the effect of clarifying and emphasising the

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absolute requirement for establishing best practise in all

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case, where people are involved in work or leisure, that brings them

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into contact with children or any vulnerable person. The investigation

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identified some arm length bodies do have child protection policies and

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procedures. Others have policies in place, many groups and Private

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Tutors do not have policies in place.

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It has been identified that many group or private tutors have

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received no advice or guidance on how to effectively deal with child

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protection. 36 I want to raise a concern from a constituent of mine,

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who is a volunteer with a sports club.

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While he fully acknowledges the importance of knowledge for

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volunteer, and he himself has completed all the necessary training

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courses, he is concerned that some organisations, including some sports

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governing bodies, are refusing to recognise the generic keeping

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children safe course. As a BB officer and a member of the

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Carrickfergus drugs advisory group I had to go through two different sets

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is of assessment, just adds many others have to, and it does seem to

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be bureaucratic, having been cleared, that even perhaps within

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weeks you would have to submit another fresh application, when the

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same criteria is assessed, and assessment of someone's suitability

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is determined, particularly if you look at self-employed persons who

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maybe working in this arts sector, they may have to go through

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clearance with each individual group they may be working with. I do

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believe this is one of the most significant reports coming through,

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I believe that the proebbing theion of children and young people --

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protection of children and individuals who are vulnerable is

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something we can't do enough of, and rather than just using words, I am

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really excited about the potential that we collectively across the

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executive can close gap, implement where possible the committee report,

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perhaps even strengthen where possible recommendation but I will

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be bringing this back in early January with a detailed response.

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The Culture Minister accepting the recommendation of a report from her

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committee on child protection. Now there were 4,000 reasons for one

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piece of Assembly business today. The MLAs were quick out the starting

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gate to pay tribute to one of Northern Ireland's finest sportsmen

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coy and his latest remarkable achievement. -- Tony McCoy. He has

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been 20 years at the top, 18 years consecutively champion jockey. He

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has won and many of you will know this the Grand National. The Gold

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Cup. Scottish Grand National Irish Grand National, Galloway Plate. He

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is a phenomenon. He has brought great honour area, we have heard

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where other sports people have been honoured but I think Tony McCoy is a

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fairly modest quiet gentle man, unassuming. He represents all that

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is positive and solid about our people. I think across the piece,

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Tony McCoy represents how people can overcome adversity, how people can

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succeed, it does require hard work, it does require diligence, it does

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require iron will and I think that he represents all of that. His place

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in the Irish and international sporting history was assured long

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ago, and his achievement continue to be an inspiration for us all. The

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SDLP are backing the call by our councillor Thomas Burns for a stat

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stew of Tony McCoy to be erected, that would stand proudly, reflecting

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the horse racing history, this local hero has made. I like others before

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me wish to congratulate the achievement of AP McCoy, and

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particularly on his fantastic record for horse racing, he has, Mr

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Speaker, been a tremendous sportsman and ambassador for Northern Ireland

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and he joins with the host of other sporting icons that have come from.

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The alliance MLA Kieran McCarthy: He wasn't the only MLA to highlight

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sporting prowess. Danny Kinahan wants to see a sporting Hall of Fame

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set up and he is with me now. The idea of some kind of sporting

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haul of -- Hall of Fame or museum has been in the mix for a while. Do

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you think it is gaining traction? I don't, that is why I raised it

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today. I want the see one, we need to have the will, we need to get the

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department's concerned to set a team up who look at how can you do it,

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how can we make something that pays for itself, and best of all sells

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what is the best of Northern Ireland.

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You say that you don't think it is gaining traction at this stage, but

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there are some pretty high profile backers of the plan. You wonder why

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it hasn't happened? Everything is sitting here, we had the Olympics

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last year and we were meant to on the back of that. You have Mary

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preerts, Lord Glentoran, there are so many people who have been star f

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you have the modern technology, surely we can make something that is

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great fun and works. Mary Peters is a big supporter. Phenomenally big

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supporter, there are a lot more behind her, if any of us look at our

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dreams of who our is parting heroes are, there are so many there,

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whether it is the film, the kit or the equipment, there is just so many

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question -- much we can do and the rest of the world would flock here

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to see it. That is the interesting thing. There is a very large list of

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names, that would have international appeal and then there is a larger

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list of names that would have appeal to people in this part of the world.

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Do you think it would be enough in itself to bring people from outside

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Northern Ireland to see a haul of First Minister like that I do. If

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you think of Rory McIlroy and our golfers and the Americans coming

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here to see the Titanic, you have to sit down and work out how you market

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it, and our our tourists from within Northern Ireland will help it pay.

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You mention Titanic, do you see two things being some kind of parallel

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attraction or would you look at other possible sites like Maze Long

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Kesh, is that the kind of thing you would like to see dropped The

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Titanic centre is the obvious one. Let us have a building that works

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it, transport is easy and let us get it near the airports and make it

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work. You raised the question today with the Enterprise Minister, she

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didn't support your idea but she didn't rule it out either I spoke to

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her after and she said it Hazard to work commercially. The Titanic

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centre was condemned a bit but it has worked well. Let us get a team

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to look at it, to make it work, rather than got not sure it is work.

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Government would have to take lead. This would cost money, you are

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talking of tens of millions of ? think so. But you think you have to

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speculate to accumulate, is that the thing? You have to take the risk to

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get there. If you put the right people in charge they will find way

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of making money. What happens next? It is been on the table for a long

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time and hasn't gained traction, how do you convert that into movement?

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Go back to Arlene and see if we can have a team, let us get Mary Peters

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and the other team working with it, and fine a way of doing it. OK. Keep

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us in touch with development. Thank you very much for coming in. The

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British Medical Association has said there is a need for the Health

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Service to prioritise patient from Northern Ireland. Dr Tom Black was

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giving evidence to the health committee on the implementation of

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the EU cross border health directive to. He said general practise is

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under considerable pressure. We recognise we have a duty of care

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to deal with immediately necessary and emergency situations for

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patients who aren't our usual patients.

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We see this as continuing. However, as GPs for the population

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in Northern Ireland, we feel that we need to prioritise the needs of our

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present population, the 1.91 million patients under our care, and

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prioritise their care and immediately necessary emergency care

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within that. . We need to accommodate too, the EU

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directive. But we would see ourselves as restricting any

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services to essential service and using cost as a hurdle to limit

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demand in that respect. When we looked at the directive, it

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wasn't very clear in relation to things like... Services where, we

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talked about directive talked about visitors being able to access things

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like essential medical service, it wasn't clear what that meant. We

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felt given the unique situation that we have here, in the north in

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relation to our land border, there was a need to look at the directive,

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certainly, and I don't think anybody suggests it is not worthwhile do

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that, but I think there are very genuine practical workings out of

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this, I would be interested in your views, the definition of essential

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medical service, how it is defined and practically how it is

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administered? Essential medical services, and it a long definition,

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but it is those who are sick or perceive themselves to be unwell.

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Additional services which is what we hope to exclude is things like

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smear, maternity service, things that are more routine, that to

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achieve quality of care, you would need continuity of care. So there is

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no point in me doing your smear, I should know what the last one was

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and I should make sure I do your next one. So additional services

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would be those extra service, childhood vaccination, you shouldn't

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bring your child to me to to be vaccinated if I am not your previous

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doctor. I need to make sure you get your full continuity of care. I have

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got 7,000 patients in my practise with four doctors and we are snowed

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under, the last thing I need is to look after other people's patients.

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So that is, I would say the proposals from the department as

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continuing that situation. -- see. If they are sick on the day in Derry

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I will see them. If they want a treen appointment see your doctor.

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Now, Alex Kane has rejoined me. There is some sad news which is

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breaking, the form former slpt MP for South Down Eddie McGrady has

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died. You had encountered him a lot down the year, what your memories of

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him I encountered him when Iised to work with Enoch Powell, so I bumped

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into him a few times during election periods. I have to say, people say

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you are just saying this now, after he died but he was one of the

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NICest, a gentle man, a truly gentle man, didn't bear grudge, we would

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chat about things were going, at ease all the time. And a very reex

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leaked likeable guy. The key was he fought that seat over and over and

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over again. Never expecting to it but finally did. He won it, as you

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say, fourth attempt in 1987. Interesting his party leader said,

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not a sectarian bone in his body, he was popular way beyond the slpt Yes,

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place like Newcastle when he would walk along the front. People would

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come up to him. I never heard anyone say any nasty about him. OK. We

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leave it there. Thank you have much. That is it for tonight. Join me for

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another Stormont Today at the same time. Thank you for watching. GB.

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