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getting some advice on how to stay safe as we approach the winter

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walking season. But first, here's what else is coming up on the

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programme. The Crown Estate, investing in coastal communities. We

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see some great opportunities, whether it be agriculture, right

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down to the leisure and tourism aspects, to really make a

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difference. I'll be hearing from both sides, in

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a heated debate about who should be allowed to fish for salmon and when.

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And Nick tucks into a hearty bowl of North-East fish soup.

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I think Cullen Skink really does deserve its place among the world's

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greatest soups. Scotland's hills in winter. A heady

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mix of striking beauty and potential danger.

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When you head into the high hills in winter, you're choosing to enter an

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environment you cannot control, a place that makes you feel small and

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potentially vulnerable. For me, that is part of the beauty.

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If you want to enjoy all that the hills offer in winter, you must

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prepare properly. Mike Pescod is a mountain guide and a member of the

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Lochaber Mountain Rescue team. Take me through what you reckon you

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should have in your rucksack for all eventualities in the winter.

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If something goes wrong, it's going to take quite a while to get any

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rescue, it will take quite a long time. If you twist your ankle or get

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a bit lost, having stuff in your bag to survive for 12 hours longer than

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you are planning to be out is probably a good starting point. So

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really handy, right at the top, is my map and compass. And I've looked

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at my map the night before and worked out my route. And I've got it

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packed in quite a small map case so it's easy to get in and out of your

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pocket. That way, you can track your route as you go along and you are

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more likely to get it out and have a look. So instead of just getting it

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out when you are lost or in a blizzard, that's too late, just keep

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it handy. Small map, so you can track your distance. And I have my

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head torch. At this time of year, it gets dark at 4pm, so I have short

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daylight, so a lot of time we are walking in the dark. So that is key.

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As soon as it starts snowing in the winter, we have crampons, making

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sure that they are fitted well to your boots and just getting used to

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your crampons, how they go on to your boots. If you can be quite

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slick at getting them on and fitted to your shoes, you avoid that really

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cold fingers thing. Practice that at home with warm

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fingers and get it on quickly. You should always have extra warm

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layers and Mike also recommends taking lots of gloves. None are 100%

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waterproof, so to avoid getting numb fingers, take plenty. Another thing

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to take lots of is food. Vital to keep energy levels up.

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And then all that stuff that will help you survive that little bit

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longer. First off in there is my survival bag. A really simple bit of

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kit, a plastic bag, 6' x 3', and an orange plastic bag. But it makes

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such a difference if you are caught out, it keeps the wind out and you

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get rid of that wind-chill effect straightaway. You are out of the

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elements and it is bright orange, which is fantastic for a rescue

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service looking for somebody. It is much easier than looking for

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something dark. In a white environment. Definitely,

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it makes a big difference. Along with that, I have my spare

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clothing that I don't think I'm going to use. This is extra, that is

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warm clothing, this is for if something goes wrong. Another

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synthetic layer, and more hats and gloves. Yet more hats and gloves! I

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have got a first aid kit in here as well and the kind of things that you

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want it for are sprains and twists, if you twist an ankle, kind of big

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dressings. Plasters and fiddly bits, it's not really that kind of injury

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we're going to get. Anything left in there?

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A bit of hot juice is really important. A hot cup of tea makes

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such a difference to you. So have a flask.

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That is the kit, but of course, there is the preparation to be done

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as well. Last winter, eight fatalities in Scotland's mountains

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were caused by avalanches. The highest for years. It is vital that

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anyone who's heading out into the hills checks the weather forecast,

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but there's also a daily avalanche forecast. From now until mid-April,

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the Avalanche Information Service offers daily forecasts, covering the

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five most popular mountain areas in Scotland. The forecasts can even be

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accessed via a new mobile site for last-minute checks. Find a link to

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that and other relevant safety sites on our website.

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How vital a service is the Avalanche Warning Service?

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It's a fantastic service and absolutely key preparation for a day

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out climbing or walking. You shouldn't just look at it the night

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before you go out, look at it for the whole week. So you've got a

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really good picture of how snow is forming, where it's building up, the

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areas to avoid. Do you find that people come up for

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a weekend with their pals, they know they're coming away they've maybe

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come a long way, they've booked their accommodation, they're going

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to be out doing certain things and the pressure to do that sometimes is

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the wrong pressure? It's the wrong pressure and I think

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also, people have specific routes in mind. So they come up on their

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weekend and think, right, this is the route I want, and don't have

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enough flexibility. To do one route is not necessarily going to work

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well. We should go the other way. We should be flexible. You should look

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at other routes to do and they also should have a range of different

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routes. There are ten or 12 routes to do and they are all really good,

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so do a range of things. And look at the avalanche and weather forecast

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all week, so you've got a really good picture of what's going to

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happen that weekend and you can choose the best route for the

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conditions on that weekend. Is it just the Avalanche Service, or

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are there other things available that people can get hands-on

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experience with? There is, there are all sorts of

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training courses that you can go on. You can learn quite a lot from the

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forecast, from reading books, but hands-on coaching from somebody

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that's got all that experience is really valuable. They can point out

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different types of snow and what are they like. The Mountaineering

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Council of Scotland are running two here at Nevis Range at the end

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December. And the William Mountain Festival, workshops are running

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there, so they are available. Hire a mountaineering guide and instructor

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and they will keep you well in with the proper avalanche coaching.

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I have to say, just walking up here, my left eye was just looking at that

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view. This is what being in the hills in winter is all about. Just

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look at that. Absolutely. Absolutely amazing.

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Over the last few weeks, Nick has been visiting cities and towns that

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will forever be associated with certain types of food. This week, he

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is in a north-east port where a certain hearty soup was created.

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When it comes to hearty warming soups, the Scots are masters.

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Perhaps the finest of them all got its name from this small fishing

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village here in the north-east of Scotland, but it is known

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mind. So how did this creamy smoked fish soup put Cullen on the culinary

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map? And how did that obscure name come about?

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It seems obvious that a fish soup should have its origins in a fishing

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village and, in the 19th century, Cullen harbour was the centre of a

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thriving herring industry, and it also specialised in the production

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of smoked haddock. But the name skink, well, its origins are

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altogether more obscure. One person who may know the answer

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is Trace Fuller, Cullen cafe owner and winner of the 2013 World Cullen

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Skink Championship. So, Trace, tell me a little bit

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about what makes you a Cullen Skink award winner.

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Because the judges said it was the best that day. Fantastic. Tell me

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the recipe. What goes into it? Right, basically, at the moment, my

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water's boiling. So you are going to parboil the potatoes? Right. They

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get left to boil for now. A wee bit of sea salt. I do not measure

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anything. You just do it by feel? Yes. And now I'm adding the

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bouillon. Wow. Potatoes, stock, onion and bay leaf. You're going to

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leave that to cook. And that's it. Fish? Don't add that. Yet. OK. Where

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is my fish? Here. Now, this is the star ingredient of any Cullen Skink,

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smoked haddock. Where does this come from? This comes from J Smith's, of

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Sandend. And Sandend is just up the road, isn't it? Yes. So we dice this

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up, the smoked haddock. I don't dice it it, I just rip it. So tell me

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about this World Cullen Skink-Making Championship that you won. Yes. The

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judges all came round, tasted it, and I noticed that they did take two

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spoonfuls of mine and I thought... Always a sign. It has boosted my

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business amazingly. In Old Scots, the word skink means

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sharing, and beef shin bones were used for making soup. -- means shin.

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But during hard times, people couldn't afford meat and substituted

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it with fish. Simply, it's a creamy soup made from smoked haddock,

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potatoes and onions. Wow, that looks fantastic! Great,

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thanks, Trace. So World Championship Cullen Skink, here in Cullen.

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Mmm! It's delicious. And I think Cullen Skink really does deserve its

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place amongst the world's greatest soups.

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Still to come on the programme: I'll be hearing from anglers and netsmen,

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in what is a heated debate about the right to catch salmon.

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Last week, I reported from Glenlivet on one aspect of the role of the

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Crown Estate. This week, I'll be looking into their role in managing

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the sea bed and foreshore. It's commonly thought that the Queen

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owns the foreshore and sea bed around the coast, but that is a bit

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of a myth. In fact, the foreshore and sea bed out to 12 nautical miles

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are owned and managed by the Crown Estate, which is a legal obligation

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to generate income for the Treasury, to be used for the public benefit.

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We manage the sea bed and foreshore, half the foreshore in Scotland, and

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that means we look out for the different interests in the marine

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environment. Take me through the elements of the

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coastal portfolio. It's made up of a number of

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different elements. So ports and harbours, we've got general folio in

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rural areas, moorings and agriculture, so a big mix right

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across Scotland. -- aquaculture. Do you charge rent toward the users? We

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don't charge everyone, but not everyone is using it for a

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commercial purpose. So we have a remit to make sure that we return a

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revenue surplus and we take accordance of that when we're

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working out charges and calculations. So if I'm walking

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along the seashore and I see a little oyster and I pick it up and

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eat it, am I technically breaking the law because it belongs to you? I

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think there is a pragmatic approach to things like that and people like

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to enjoy public access. And, for example, metal detecting is

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something that in some areas, a lot of people like to do as a recreation

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and on our website, there is an easy-to-use forum to say, I'm going

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to be using this area for that recreation activity.

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The Crown Estate has just signed the first Local Management Agreement of

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its kind to allow the community to invest in and benefit from the

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foreshore. Gus Macaulay, from North Uist, is part of a group called

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Comann Na Mara, that is working with the Crown Estate to establish marine

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leisure activities at Lochmara. We are in collaboration with The

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Crown Estate. We are creating a 26 berth pontoon system there. We can

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do this at the moment because of this new Local Management Agreement

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with The Crown Estate, which gives a smaller organisation like us the

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chance to realise a project such as this. Without The Crown Estate, it

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wouldn't have happened. Take me through the business arrangement you

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have with them. We have two agreements. We have a licence

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agreement for the seabed and a leasing agreement for the pontoons

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over a period of 30 years. We have an investment from The Crown Estate.

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They believe that our project can work. It is up to us. We have been

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given the opportunity of that, so we have to make that financial side

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work. They have been criticised for not engaging with communities. Do

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you think things are getting better? Very much so. It is all very well to

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stand out lobbing bricks over the garden wall. What you have to do is

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step up to the table and engage their investing projects. People

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have to speak to them about it. The project is really positive. It is a

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good community group. For us, it is quite simple. We can invest with the

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organisation and they get a deal from us that works for them and we

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get a return on our capital, which works for everyone. Any plans to

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have more projects in the future like this project? The process is

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something we are trying to roll out further. We see some great

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opportunities, whether it be agriculture, right down to the

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marine leisure. The Crown Estate also works closely with fish farms

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around the coast. I've come to meet Stuart Cannon. We have been here

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about 40 years. And we started with trout and trout is still our main

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production, but we also contract salmon and then we grow halibut as

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well. Explain the specifics of the business relationship you have with

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them. They are our landlords. They charge us a rental fee. We have

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controls in as much as that we are allowed a set number of cages, an

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area that we have to work with. Would you say your relationship with

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The Crown Estate are good? Are there any gripes that frustrate you?

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Possibly, my frustration in wanting to expand, and as an industry in

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wanting to be expand, they could be more positive. Where it would be

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helpful is if they could - some to have the rental fees they collect

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from us, if they put that back to some of the communities and also put

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probably more research into the industry as well. We have our

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problems. They do help with that. It could be greater.

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One of the criticisms that have been levelled at The Crown Estate is it

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takes a long time to get anything done. There's lots of bureaucracy.

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Are you addressing that? Absolutely. My team wants to get things done. I

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want to see the opportunities converted into real delivery on the

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ground and we don't want people to be frustrated in dealing with us. It

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is something we take seriously. We try to be as efficient as we

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possibly can. The Crown Estate has many critics saying it is an

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outdated form of land management and ownership. For the time being, it

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has a huge role to play in managing large chunks of our seabed and land

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with the purpose of generating income for the Treasury, for the

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benefit of the public. If you have a comment about anything

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you see on the programme, or have a story to share with us, send us an

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e-mail to [email protected]. Now, the weather here is still beautiful,

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but crisp. What about the prospects for this weekend and beyond?

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Good evening to you. A very unsettled spell of weather takes us

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throughout the weekend and well into next week. We have a Met Office

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warning in force for the strength of the winds. It is all down to this

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area of low pressure out in the Atlantic. Tomorrow will start benign

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enough. Before long, that rain will sweep in from the rest. It will turn

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heavy. We will see gusts of 60mph to 70mph. That rain lingering well into

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the afternoon. There will be some issues with standing water and spray

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on the roads, particularly across southern and Central Scotland.

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Something a bit drier getting into the Western Isles later in the

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afternoon. On the whole, it will be a fairly mild day, temperature-wise.

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It's not a day to be taking to the hills across all the ranges.

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Temperatures will be close to freezing. There will be rain or snow

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in the west. Storm-force winds with gusts of 110mph across the summits.

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For Scottish coastal waters, out to the west, winds are south-westerly,

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force seven to severe gale nine. Out to the east, winds south or

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south-westerly force six to force eight. For the rest of the

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afternoon, as we head towards evening, that band of rain will

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clear. Behind it, things will dry up for a time. Winds will ease for a

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time. Then we will see another band of heavy showers moving in from the

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west. Temperature-wise, it will be close to freezing with a touch of

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frost. So, into Sunday. We are watching this area of low pressure

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approaching off the Atlantic once again. We have another Met Office

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yellow warning in force. A bright start. Then that rain will push in.

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The winds will strengthen once again. Storm-force around exposed

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north-western coasts. For Monday, that deep low will pull away. You

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can see it is still breezy, still strong winds, still a feed of

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showers in the north and west falling as snow on the hills. A

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really cold feel to the day on Monday. For Tuesday, another area of

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low pressure tracks our way. It is important to note that the exact

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track of these lows is subject to change. At the moment, for Tuesday,

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it looks like more rain in the north and west. Again, snow for the hills.

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Temperature-wise, around 7-8 Celsius. Again, gale or severe

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gale-force winds. It will stay very wet on Wednesday. Severe gales. Keep

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up-to-date with the forecast. Leaping salmon, battling upstream. A

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classic image of Scotland. But there is a debate raging over who should

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be allowed to catch salmon and when. The right to fish salmon is a

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Heritable title. That title gives its owners the legal right to sell,

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lease or pass the fishing rights to their heirs. On rivers, people can

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own the right to fish certain stretches. They can charge anglers

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to fish on that beat. Salmon netters have the right to net at specific

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locations, called stations, like this one. They can sell their catch

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as Scottish wild salmon. Rod-caught salmon cannot be bought and sold.

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The only Scottish wild salmon that can legally be sold are net-caught

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fish. Here lies the problem. The only way that salmon netters can

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make money is by catching plenty of fish, so they can sell them. The

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only way beat owners can make money is to have plenty of fish in the

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river so they can charge anglers to fish there. The Anging season --

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angling season on most rivers runs from February to October. For the

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last 14 years, they have chosen to delay the start of their season to

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help conserve the spring-run of salmon.

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Spring-run fish are the fish that come into the rivers in the early

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part of the year. They generally stay out at sea for two or more

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years. It's the spring-run, the early-running fish that are the most

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vulnerable. The number of fish coming back into the rivers has

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declined from about 20% of all the fish leaving the rivers, down to 5%.

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During the spring-run of salmon, many rivers operate a strict catch

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and release programme. The rod fisheries is releasing 91% of the

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fish caught during that time. The netters' decision to delay the start

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of their season also conserves stock. Things might be about to

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change. This year, at the AGM, the Salmon Net Fishing Association of

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Scotland decided to lift the voluntary ban. Up until this year,

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we have been doing it for no compensation whatsoever. What's been

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happening is the angling proprietors on the rivers have been able to earn

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an income from their beats. Even though they have been doing catch

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and release, they have been able to earn an income from their Heritable

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title. As we have the same rights as the angling fraternity, it is only

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right we get some income. The lifting of the vol unfrom I delay in

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the start of the netting season is just the first step in a

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negotiation. In the longer term, the netsmen would like to see the

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netting season changed to allow them to fish until later in the year when

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there are more salmon. Marine Scotland have said that the summer

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stocks are stable and autumn stocks are increasing. Why not adjust the

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season? You wouldn't expect a farmer to harvest his crops when the crops

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are not ready to harvest. Surely, it is logical to adjust the seasons?

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These seasons have been set in 1868, where there is no flexibility. A

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change in the law would be required to change the season. In the

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meantime, compensation has been proposed as a temporary solution.

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Salmon stocks are managed by district salmon boards. It's been

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suggested these should pay salmon netters in return for delayed start

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to their season. We certainly do not want the fish where there are

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concerns regarding the health of the stock. My brother has a family

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working with us in the business. I have a young family coming up. It is

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important to us that the salmon stocks remain healthy. It is not an

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issue of rods versus nets. It is an issue of conservation. There is not

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enough fish in the early part of the year to go around. Therefore, that

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is why what both the salmon netters were doing in the early part of the

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year and the catch and release has been so valuable to ensure that

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resource is sustainable for the long-term. We would hope that

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everyone would think very carefully about increasing exploitation on

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this very vulnerable stock component. Over and over on

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Landward, we come across different interests competing for a single

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resource. Whether it is deer, land, birds or fish. With livelihoods at

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stake, passions can become heated. But with salmon being such a vital

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part of the Scottish economy, it is important that a solution is finally

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reached. Before I leave the shadow of Ben Nevis, I have time to tell

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you what is coming up next week. The team will be in Orkney for our

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annual Christmas Special. We will be finding out about the importance of

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the Winter Solstice and exploring some island food traditions. Please

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join us for that if you can at the same time next week. From all the

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Landward team here, thank you so much for your company. Bye for now.

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