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The sun is out, flowers are blossoming, crops are growing, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
calves and lambs are playing in the fields, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
and Easter eggs are but a distant memory. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
It's spring, and Landward is back. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Hello, and a very warm welcome to the programme from Perthshire. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
In a moment, I'll be meeting a dog lover behind | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
a rescue service for unwanted gundogs. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
But first, here's what else is coming up... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Euan tries his hand as a flower farmer... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
So you just pinch that at the bottom? | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Yeah, just pinch at the bottom, and just pluck. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
So... | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
80 million to go. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
..Sarah meets the competitive young farmers | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
who've spent the winter pampering their livestock... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
He's had the radio on every day. | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
-Does he have a favourite tune? -Erm... | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Well, I suppose he does quite like Ex's & Oh's. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
He does, sort of, perk his ears up to that. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
..and I hit the shoreline | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
in search of shellfish. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
-Well done, that man. -There you go. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
-Hey. -There you are. There you are, Dougie, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
that's your first lobster. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Over the years, we've featured many types of working dogs - | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
from sheep dogs, rescue dogs, to gundogs. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Now these animals are incredibly intelligent, obedient, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and hard-working. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
But what happens to them when they come | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
to the end of their working lives? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
It's hard to believe, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
but all of these dogs were unwanted by their owners... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
and that's where Carol Begg comes in. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
WHISTLE SOUNDS | 0:01:45 | 0:01:46 | |
She runs the only rescue service | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
solely for gundogs in Scotland, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
and she's seeing an increase in demand. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Come on, Heidi. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
-Carol, how are you? Here's Heidi back. -Thank you. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
How did you come to have these | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
beautiful dogs in your possession? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Well Bryn and Drew, who are cocker spaniels - brothers, but from | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
different litters - they came in to us | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-from a family breakdown. -Uh-huh. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
And they had a few dogs, and they could no longer keep them. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Heidi is sister to one of our pointers - | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
a litter sister - | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
and it was discovered that Heidi has hereditary cataracts, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
and her owner felt they couldn't cope with this, because | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
she was bought as a dog to work - to do deer tracking and stuff. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
And what about Rosie? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
Rosie is a clumber spaniel. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
She is affected by a condition called exercise induced collapse, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
so they were worried in case maybe somebody unscrupulous | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
got a hold of her, and maybe bred from her. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
She is quite timid, though, isn't she? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
She's very timid. She's very, very scared of people, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
but I'm determined that I'll get her to be a working gundog. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
She's got all the proper instincts, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
and she loves it. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
The dogs may come from gamekeepers who have retired | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
or lost their jobs, and have to give up their dogs. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Sometimes, they haven't quite made the grade as working gundogs, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
and Carol takes on their training. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
'Today, she is attempting to train me, as well as Drew.' | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
-If you want to throw it... -OK. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
..and he should remain sitting there...which he's not. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Naughty boy. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
-Drew. -Drew. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
So tell me, how did you get into training | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
and rescuing dogs in the first place? | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Well, rescuing animals I've done since I was 15. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
I was one of the kids that came home with every stray animal | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
under the sun, much to my mother's horror. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
Is there a typical story behind the dogs that you rescue | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
and end up training, or are they all, kind of, individual tales? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
There isn't really. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
You know, there's 101 reasons why people give up a dog. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Whether it's been somebody that's taken on the likes of | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
a working cocker, and not really researched the breed fully, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and then they find out, by the time the dog's got to 9-18 months, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
months, they've got this absolute live wire on their hands | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
that they can no longer control. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Carol is seeing an increasing number of dogs coming to her | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
from owners who can't cope with the demands of a gundog breed. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
We do have an issue with spaniels | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
showing aggressive behaviour, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
which, some of the time, it's because they're | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
not getting the mental stimulation that they need. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
So it's like a child being bored - they get into trouble, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
and it's the same with the dogs. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
-OK. -OK? -No bother. -So sit up. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
'No danger of boredom for Drew.' | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
It's time for whistle commands, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
'and another chance for me to show him who's boss.' | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
So what are the signals? | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
For Drew, all we have is just a "peep-peep" on the whistle. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
-And... -That'll bring him over? -That should bring him back. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
-Are you wanting to...? -Shall I give it a go? -Yep. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Drew... PEEP-PEEP | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
He just sat there. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:03 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Drew 2, Dougie 0, I think. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Carol reckons she takes in about | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
50 rescue gundogs each year. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Some stay with her for good. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
But she's able to let most of them go to new owners, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
either as working dogs, or as family pets... | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
which goes to show there can be a happy ending for every TAIL. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
The sun in Perthshire is welcome after a long winter. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
But a sure sign that spring has arrived is the site of daffodils. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
Euan's been to Angus to discover how the golden flower | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
has become one of Scotland's hidden export successes. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Most of us will pick the odd bunch of daffodils | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
when you're out for a walk. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
But here in Angus, as you can see, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
daffodils are really big business. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
Over 80 million of these stems are going to be hand-picked, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
chilled, sorted, and then sent | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
all over the world in just six weeks. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
During the daffy season, 300 people are involved in picking and packing | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
here at Grampian Growers near Montrose. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-Peter? -Peter Salmon, pleased to meet you. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
-So this is your field of daffies? -Yeah. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
'Second-generation daffodil grower Peter Salmon is going | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
'to put me to work in the fields.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
So when did these ones come out? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
These are just first picked today, on this variety. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
And how many are you growing here? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
We grow about 70 acres on this farm. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
-That's a lot of daffodils. -It is. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:39 | |
What about weather like this? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Is it a serious problem for you? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
Because the air, it's raw. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The snow has stopped, but the hailstones keep on coming. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
It's not a serious problem for the daffodils. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
It's not great for picking them | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
when they don't grow a huge amount in these cold temperatures. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
But from a health point of view, it doesn't affect them that much. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Are these ready for picking? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
That one there, yeah, ready for picking. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
You want to pick them as what we call pencils - | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
-before they burst. -You've got different heights, as well? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-Does that affect it? -Yeah, we want a certain height. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
We're looking for about a 30 centimetre length. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
So what's the technique? Cos presumably it's not that simple. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Generally, hold with one hand, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
and pluck with the second hand, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
get them into bunches of ten, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:15 | |
-and put an elastic band round them. -These are a bit small, aren't they? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
But we'll try it anyway. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
-So you just pinch that at the bottom? -Yeah, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
just pinch at the bottom, and just pluck. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
How hard is it? I'd imagine, on a beautiful spring day, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
this is an absolute joy. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
The reality of today is that it's about four degrees. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
-It must be hard. -It is a hard job. It is a hard job. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Long hours, carrying them all to the end of the rows, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
putting them all in trays, ready for dispatch, as well. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
So... | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
80 million to go. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Those 80 million Scottish daffodils | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
are sent all over the world. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
-Mark? -Morning, Euan. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
'Mark Clark is going to show me the massive logistical effort involved' | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
in ensuring their fresh arrival | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
on the other side of the globe. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
What's going on here? | 0:08:00 | 0:08:01 | |
Yeah, this is our flower pack house. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
We've got three separate orders. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
We've got a supermarket order on the left, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
we have an export order going to mainland Europe, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
and then we actually have a USA order being packed today, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
on the right-hand side of the line. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-So we can go and pack some American ones? -Yes. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Everything is cold store, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
so once it comes in from the field in this state... | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
You don't have to cold store them in this weather - it's freezing. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
They come out to get packed, they go straight back into the cold store. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
They're then transported in refrigerated transport, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
they go into a cold store at Heathrow... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-So they'll fly out? -They'll fly from Heathrow to Boston. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
So they will fly on Sunday morning. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
So this could be on somebody's dining room table by, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
what, Wednesday? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Tuesday/Wednesday, that'll be in someone's house in America. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
So why do the Americans want Scottish daffodils? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
They do produce their own, but their season tends to be quite early. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
So they rely on UK - in our case Scottish production - | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
for late in the season. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
-So are your ones better? -Absolutely. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
-Scottish is always better. -How much are they going to cost? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
A dollar a bunch, so it's quite expensive. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
By the time you get air freight, the labour, the picking, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
it's quite an expensive bunch of daffodils | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
by the time it gets into the household in America. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
See, I would disagree with you. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
I think a dollar for a bunch of Scottish daffodils | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
is not extravagant. I think it's good. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
I think it's good value for money. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
What's that worth to the Scottish economy? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
In terms of bunches, they would be on average | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
about 8-8.5 million bunches | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
of Scottish daffodils produced every year | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
in a 6-7 week period. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
To the industry, it's probably worth about £2.5 million. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-As I say, a very short period. -So it's quite significant? | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
It is significant, yeah. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
When are they going to turn into proper daffodils, with flowers? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
If you were to put that bunch in a vase of water, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
roughly 48-72 hours | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
that would be in full bloom. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
So they look a little bit like a bunch of leeks at this point... | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
They're not impressive at the moment, are they? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
They will turn into something... | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
something quite stunning. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
You know, it's hard to imagine that these humble Angus daffies, in just | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
a few days' time, will be in vases across Europe and North America. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
And, you know, despite the weather, it's really good to know that | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
a little ray of Scottish sunshine is spreading across the globe. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
It's 7.30 in the morning, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
I've just struggled into a pair of waders, and the more observant | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
amongst you will have noticed that I've not got a fishing rod with me. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
That's because I'm going to be getting a lesson | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
in an alternative way of fishing called cleeking. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
I'm here to meet cleeking enthusiast Derek Cowie. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-Derek, how are you? -Nice to see you, Dougie. -Yeah, you, too. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
'He's on the Fife coast near Anstruther,' | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
where I'm joining him on the hunt for crab and lobster. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Is this a good day for cleeking? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah, I think we'll have some good fun. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Tide's on its way out, so maybe we'll get some lobsters. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-Let's rattle on, shall we? -OK. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
These rock formations are perfect for these lobster holes. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Down at the bottom here, you can see... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
there's lots of these little types of holes. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
They don't look very much, but, to be honest, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
as long as there's a bit of water in the back... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
Uh-huh? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Oh, actually, there's something in there. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I don't think... It'll probably be small. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
This is what we just call a green crab. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
We don't take 'em. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
-There's nothing spectacular about these things. -Uh-huh. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Derek, tell me, what is cleeking? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
Cleeking, basically, it's a method of catching lobsters | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
and crabs without using pots or traps. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
That's the cleek in your hand? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
This is the cleek. It's nothing special, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
just about a six-foot-long, six-millimetre bit of bar, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
with a smallish hook at the back end of it. Nothing too dangerous. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
I go down at low tide, and I can get to the little crevices | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
and cracks, put the cleek in behind them, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
work it across the hole, and hopefully pull out a lobster. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
How did you get into this in the first place? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Well, kind of a funny story. I was just... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
digging for lugworm back down here, when I was a little boy. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
And two young guys came, and either side of where I was digging, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
they pulled out lobsters. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
I thought that was amazing. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
So I went up, told my mother, and... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
I'd never saw her move so fast - she took a couple of pound out her wallet, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
came rushing down here, bought the lobsters off the guys. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
This was 1978, I'd never seen my mum spend £2 before in my life. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
So I thought, "I'm having some of that." | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
OK, right, so I'm pretty sure we've got something here, I can feel him. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
So this is going to take a little bit of... | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-getting out, because now he knows I'm here. -SPLASHING | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-You hear that? Do you hear that? -Yeah. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
That's him bucking and trying to go somewhere. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Well, he's got nowhere to go. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
-There he is. -There he is. -There, see him? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
HE PANTS | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Come on. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
-If you pull him slowly in through the mud... -Uh-huh. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
..I'm not damaging him. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
There you go, here we come. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
There we are... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
-Well done, that man. -..one lobster. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
He didn't put up too much of a fight? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
No, maybe when they're a bit cold. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-HE BLOWS -But see how fast? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
That's one's quite quick. That one will crush you. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
No, absolutely, I'll keep my hands out of the way. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
'You need a licence for cleeking | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
'if you plan to sell what you catch. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
'Derek, though, only takes what he intends to eat. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
'Small lobsters have to go back. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
'If they're less than 9cm from the eye socket | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
'to the back of the head, or are carrying eggs, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
'Derek has to return them.' | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
'I love the fact I'm out here in the... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
'in amongst the elements, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
'but also I really love the fact that you can go down on any day | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
'and sit by the beach, and go down cleeking, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
'and, before you know it, pull a couple of lobsters, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
'chuck them on the fire, and we're having lobster for lunch. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
'And it's the freshest lobster you'll ever taste in your life.' | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Not a bad one again. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:54 | |
All right, Dougie, I think it's your turn to have a shot at this. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
-We've got a nice hole here. -Okey doke. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Keep the cleek with the head pointing that direction, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and go right into the back. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
Start off at this edge here, and... | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
give it a... Hold it with a nice bit of vigour. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
And then back and forward, back and forward, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
moving along the back of the wall. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-Until... -Think I'll move a wee bit closer in. -Yep, that's it. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
-There you go. -Oh, hello. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-Can you feel that? -Oh, I can. -Yeah, you can. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
-He'll either grip you, which is great... -He's gripping me. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
He's gripped you. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Come on, come on. Oh, he's let me go. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
Ah, well, there you go. You go back in and do it again, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
or you can do it from the other way. You can do it from any way. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
I guess the thing about a hole like this | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
-is they can't really go anywhere. -No, no... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
He's coming out, no matter what. There he is. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
You get him? DEREK GRUNTS | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
-Yes. -There you go. -Well done, that man. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
-Hey. -There you go, there you are. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
-There you are, Dougie - your first lobster. -My first one. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
-He's right on the borderline. -Uh-huh. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
He's about as small as we can take. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
Well, we've got a couple for the pot, that was great fun, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
and we're going to head to Derek's for a lobster breakfast. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Later in the programme, I'll be joining Nick Nairn in the food van. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
He'll be cooking up some lobster | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
and crab to find out which one the people of Perth are partial to. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
-I'm preferring lobster this morning, though. Let's go. -Let's go. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And if you've got any ideas for things you would like to see | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
on the programme, you can get in touch via our Facebook page | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
or e-mail: | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
Throughout the series, as I crisscross Scotland, I'm going to | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
be stopping off to show you some of my favourite spots for a pit stop. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
This location today is so fantastic, I'm willing to get up really early. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
It's 6.30 in the morning... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Yeah, I know. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
..and that is Loch Leven. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
Famous for being the place where Mary Queen of Scots was held | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
prisoner, these days, Loch Leven is a national nature reserve. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
Showing me the amazing birdlife is RSPB site manager Uwe Stoneman. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:07 | |
Loch Leven's the biggest lowland loch in Scotland. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It serves two functions for birds. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
One is it provides food, and the other one is it provides shelter. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
With it being a big loch, you can sit in the middle, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
and you're safe from predators. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
What we're here for today is just to have a look at our lapwing here that are breeding. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
So tell me what I'm looking for in terms of seeing lapwing. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
A good thing about the bird is it's quite obvious. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
They like open spaces, they like short grass, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
and they're sitting there on eggs at the moment. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
They do have a call, which is brilliant, which is | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
where they get their Scottish name from, which is peewit. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
There's one there. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
LAPWING CALLS | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Just kind of like, "Pee-wit!" | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
Breeding season continues until July, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
but you can see and hear lapwing at Loch Leven all year round. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
LAPWING CALLS | 0:16:57 | 0:16:58 | |
Pull! | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Now, as we've seen on Landward in the past, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Scotland's young farmers like a bit of fun. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
They're also a competitive bunch, and Sarah's been to Aberdeenshire | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
to see them putting their livestock skills to the test. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
SARAH: Every young farmer's got to learn their trade, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
and this is one of the ways they do it. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
CATTLE LOW | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
These animals all belong to members of young farmers' clubs, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
who are about to compete against each other in the annual | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
overwintering show and sale. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Back in the autumn, young farmers came to Thainstone | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
to choose and buy their calves for the competition, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
and we sent a camera along to see what happened. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Among the dozens of young farmers desperate to buy a show calf | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
at Thainstone Mart last October was veteran competitor Sarah Balfour. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
The reason I enjoy it most, I suppose, | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
is you come to the sale, you pick the calf, you try and buy it | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
hopefully, and then you feed it through the entire winter, you | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
look after it, it's solely yours, and then you take it to the sale. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
Hopefully to win a prize, but at the end of the day, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
hopefully to make a profit. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
There'll be over £2,000 of prize money up for grabs, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
but only if Sarah can secure the right calf. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Despite stiff competition, she gets the beast she wants. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
AUCTIONEER'S PATTER | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Really pleased. This is the calf I wanted. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It was really the only one I wanted today, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
and I've got what I came for, so I'm happy. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Hoping to beat Sarah in the competition are sisters | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
Anne and Catriona MacArthur. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Catriona has her eyes on a male calf - or stott - | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
she hopes to bag for under £950. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
AUCTIONEER'S PATTER | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Got one! | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
I bought a stott for £900, a limousin cross stott. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:01 | |
And she got a stott as well. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
-For 920. -For 920. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
She's quite happy with him as well, the correct shape, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
and what we are looking for. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
Hopefully weight's on, put weight on and make money, we'll be happy. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Five months on, we've come to see how they've all fared | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
over the winter. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
CATTLE LOW | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
Mine's roughly put on about 160 kilos, which I'm happy with, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
yeah, it's good. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
So what about yours, Catriona? | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
Mine's put on 180 kilos, so they're roughly about the same - | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
they were bought at a similar weight. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
The calves have all done really well. He's put on 138 kilos. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-Are you happy with that? -Yeah, I'm happy with that. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
What have you been doing to, sort of, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
get him ready for show performance? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
We've spent the last, sort of, fortnight, three weeks, every day, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
on the halter, just getting him used to all different sights and sounds. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
He's had the radio on every day. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-Does he have a favourite tune? -Erm... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Well, I suppose he does quite like the Ex's & Oh's tune, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
it's got quite a catchy tune, I suppose. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-Ex's & Oh's. -Yeah, he does sort of perk his years up to that. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
MUSIC: Ex's & Oh's by Elle King | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
After months of care and preparation, it's time for the show. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
The competition is fierce with every young farmer keen | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
to get their hands on the rosettes and prize money. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
A class of five feisty steers, one of which - | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
this one here - is Anne's. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Anne's stott comes fourth in his class, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
and Catriona's earns a respectable third. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
There she goes. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
It's Sarah's moment of truth. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Ooh! Good luck! | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
Looks like all the training has paid off. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
Sarah's calf behaves impeccably in the ring, earning her a first prize. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
It's not just about the prestige. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
A red rosette can add hundreds of pounds to the hammer price | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
when the calves are sold at auction. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Fantastic news for Sarah, and the other girls did well, as well, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
but I suppose the real test comes tomorrow, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
when they all go to be sold. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
The auction is the culmination of months of hard work. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
First up is Anne. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
She paid £920 back in October, and she sells for a respectable 1,050. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:20 | |
AUCTIONEER'S PATTER | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
Sarah's prize-winner is up next. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
The beast cost her £960, and goes for 1,180. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:31 | |
It's Catriona who is the big winner on the day, though. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
She paid just £900 for her animal, and sells for 1,220. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:40 | |
The margins might be small, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
but all three of our young farmers have managed to turn a profit | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
while learning the stockmanship skills | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
vital to the future of the industry. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
You need to make money, you need to cover your costs for feed, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
labour, all the work you've put in. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-So are you going to come back again next year? -Hopefully. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-Smiles on your faces now cos you've got the cheques. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-Are you happy? -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
At least we're not paying the mart back, or we wouldn't get enough profit, I think. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
And you will be able to see more of the young farmers | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
when they appear in series two of The Mart, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
coming soon on BBC One Scotland. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
CATTLE LOW | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
DOUGIE: Earlier in the programme, I was on the Fife coast at low tide, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
learning how to catch lobster and crab. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Now I need to find out how to cook them, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
and who better to show me than Nick Nairn? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
He's in the Landward food van, and this time, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
we're hitting the pavements of Perth. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
-So, Dougie. -Yes? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
-As ever, good to have you as my assistant. -Lovely to be here. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
We have a beautiful Scottish lobster, not the one that you caught, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
cos you ate the one that you caught! | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
We did kind of have it for breakfast, yes. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
Scottish brown crab. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
The question is, which do you think the great citizens of Perth prefer? | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
Well, I think they'll go for lobster, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
because I prefer the taste of lobster. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
However, there is a certain sort of thing about crab, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
it's quite meaty and lovely, so who knows? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
It's also a third of the price. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-I prefer the crab. -Me too! | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
So, two claws, you need to take the claws off. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
-Just... -Just here? -Yeah, that's good. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
And... | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
twist it apart and take the tail off. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
-Did that work? -It did, yeah! -Good. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
I was expecting you to be a little queasy. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Now, these have been pre-cooked. How did you cook them? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
The lobster first of all went in the freezer, put it to sleep, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
into a pan of heavily salted boiling water for five minutes, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
then left to cool at room temperature. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
We cooked the crab for 15 minutes, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
and then let it cool in the water itself. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
The crab, much thicker shell, more meat in here, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
takes longer for the heat to penetrate it. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
So the meat in the lobster is in the tail, is in the claws, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
not much in the head. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
-With the crab, most of the white meat is in the claws. -OK. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
-But you need to get started. Do you remember how to do this? -No. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
-Would you like me to show you? -Yes, please. -Right, so... | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Into there. Twist the knife, which opens up the claw... | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
pull this away, and that makes it nice and easy, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
the meat comes out, and in there it goes. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
-Delicious. -So you're just going to take this and crack it in. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
Down here. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
I'll be fine, I've got another shirt with me. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Use your thumbs in here, pull this apart, out it comes, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
and then you can just pull... | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
NICK LAUGHS | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I believe you've just done it for me! | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Oh, and me with the good shoes on, too! I'll just give them a little wipe down. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
Nick's just off to towel down after the lobster biting back. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
That's it, and twist now. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
-There it you go. -That's it. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
'To make our lobster and crab dishes look similar to our tasters, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
'we're only using the white meat from the crab, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
'but the brown meat is edible, too, and delicious.' | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Oh! There we go. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-What's next? -We're going to make a cocktail sauce to bind it with. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Good dollop of mayonnaise, that's the heart of it. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
But you can take shop-bought mayonnaise, and make it a bit more... | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
-More, more, more, more, come on, get it! -Proper dollop. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Now, we can make this a little bit more interesting by adding | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
a little bit of smooth grain mustard, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
a few drops of lemon juice... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
We're just going to add a little bit of rapeseed oil. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
And now the secret ingredient, the ketchup. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
About a quarter of the amount of ketchup to mayonnaise. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
And stop. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
'Nick adds some Worcestershire sauce and Tabasco, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
'then mixes the dressing in with our crab | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
'and lobster meat before serving it up to the people of Perth. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
'But what will they prefer?' | 0:25:40 | 0:25:41 | |
-I think the crab's going to take it. -You think? -I do. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
-I think the lobster's going to win. -Game on! -Let's do this! | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Right, plating up. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
-Sorry, you look as though you're Hank Marvin. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Down the hatch it goes. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
What do you think? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
Prawn. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
Number two. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
Which did you prefer? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
-First one. -First one? -Yeah. -The lobster! | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
-The lobster. -Lobster, that one there? -Yeah. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
1-0, lobster! | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
-The first one. -The first one, that's the crab! | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Now, I want to just to take your time. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-That's the best. -That one, there? -Mm-hmm. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
That would be the lobster, then. That's 2-0 to the lobster! | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
THEY LAUGH Come on! | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
You prefer the crab! Ho-ho-ho! | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
Straight in there, no messing. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-First one. -You liked the first one? OK, that's absolutely fine. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-I don't like... -Oh, you don't like it? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
Lobster. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
Speaks for itself. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
-Second one. -The lobster, the one that I prepared? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
-Second one. -Second one! Ha-ha-ha-ha! | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
Now, just take your time with this. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Did you prefer the first shellfish, let's call it shellfish A, or B? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
A. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
Oh! | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
DOUGIE LAUGHS | 0:27:03 | 0:27:04 | |
I like them both. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
So, Nick, how did you get on? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Erm, well... | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
I got four votes for crab and two for lobster. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
OK, well I got four votes for lobster, one for crab, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
and a dead heat. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
NICK SIGHS | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
-Which means... -Yeah! | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
-..lobster wins by half a vote. -Absolutely, it does. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
But, you know, crab is half the price, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
and I would suggest to you that that's a moral victory for the crab. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
You can say that, but the most important thing is, Scottish produce, people are loving it. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
Big smiles on everybody's faces. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Except yours, cos you're the loser! HE LAUGHS | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And I will wallow in the warmth of victory, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
and tell you now what's coming up on next week's programme. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
Sarah is out on the gallops near Leslie | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
with the next National Hunt star. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
So how are they looking this morning? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
I'm very pleased with all of them, yeah, everything's going up nicely. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
There's Bertie Milan on the right with the green cap. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
And I get up early again | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
to find some out-of-the-ordinary fish for Mr Nairn. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
I think it's just tradition. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:07 | |
It just seems to be a nation thing, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
everyone's always eating cod and haddock, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
but I can see trends changing. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 | |
-Thank you for doing the shopping, Dougie. -It's a pleasure. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
And that's all we've got time for. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Yeah, we'll be back the same time next week - | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Friday night, 7.30 on BBC One Scotland. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
In the meantime, from all the Landward team, from Nick, from me, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
and the Fair Maid of Perth, thanks for your company, bye for now. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Bye for now. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 |