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It's wild, it's remote, it's beautiful

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and home to some of the finest mutton in the world.

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This is North Ronaldsay.

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Hello, and a very warm welcome to the programme from the Orkney

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island of North Ronaldsay.

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In a moment, I'll be on the hunt for the sheep that share

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their name with this island, but first here's what else is coming up.

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'Fishermen in conflict on the east coast.'

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They feel aggrieved that we're actually there.

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I mean, it's fishermen destroying other fishermen.

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I can't understand why.

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'Euan's up in the air.'

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-So now we're gliding.

-So now we're on our own.

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I'm heading for a dark cloud hoping to find an updraught in it.

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That's the plan, but in gliding nothing is certain.

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'And Nick's in Stirling with the street-food van,

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'trying to cook some mutton.'

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THEY COUGH

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'Scotch beef, Arbroath smokies, Stornoway black pudding - these are

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'just some of the Scottish products that have been awarded what is

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'called a Protected Geographic Indicator, or PGI.

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'And the list is growing.

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'And that's why I've flown into North Ronaldsay.

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'The people of the island want one, too.

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'It's the most northerly island in the Orkney archipelago and home

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'to a native breed of sheep that's been here for thousands of years.

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'They apparently produce some of the best-tasting

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'mutton in the world, and I want to find out more.'

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The sheep live on the foreshore and graze almost entirely on seaweed,

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and it's this unusual diet that gives the mutton its unique

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flavour that's much sought after in restaurants across the country.

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'In 1832, the laird wanted to clear the land of sheep

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'to make way for cattle

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'and struck a deal with the crofters.

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'They were to build a dyke right around the island to keep the sheep

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'on the foreshore, where they could graze on seaweed instead of grass.'

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The only time the sheep get inside the sea wall is during lambing

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and when they're going to market,

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and the tups are going to market, so I'm going to give them a hand

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punding, which means driving the sheep into these punds behind me.

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I'm told the sheep are very wily and elusive

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and it's not going to be easy.

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Phew! Not easy to walk, anyway!

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'While we put a guide fence into position,

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'the sheep are driven along the shore.'

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Here they come.

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So, after half an hour of chasing along the beach in this

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direction, we've now put out this wire fence and here they come back.

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THE MEN CLAP AND SHOUT

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One way the islanders hope to secure the future of these unique

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sheep is by applying for a Protected Geographic Indicator,

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or PGI, for North Ronaldsay yarn and mutton.

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This would mean that only wool and meat produced right

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here on the island would be able to carry that North Ronaldsay name.

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Does the seaweed in their diet really make

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-a difference to the taste of the meat, do you think?

-Absolutely, yes.

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-Aye?

-Much darker meat.

-Uh-huh.

-Yes, definitely.

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'Crofter Billy Muir has been one of the key players trying to

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'maximise the benefits from the island's woolly resource.'

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So, what about the PGI status?

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What will that mean to the crofters here on the island?

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Well, we've been talking about that for five to ten years,

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and finally we're getting something done about it, so hopefully it

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enhances the marketing and enhances the status of the animal, as well.

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There is a worldwide interest in the meat, which is excellent,

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and the wool.

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Yeah, because it's not just about the eating,

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-it's about the fleeces, as well.

-Fleeces, as well.

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And what's been done on the island

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to kind of keep that kind of tradition going, as well?

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Well, at the lighthouse, when it went automatic in 1998,

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we looked at alternatives for it rather than have something

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dead in the water, and the first we did was to convert the engine room

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into a wool mill to spin the wool from the sheep.

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'That's all well and good, but there's another vital

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'component to keep the mutton and wool business healthy -

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'people.'

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I think we're going to run into problems with just sheer

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lack of numbers as people like myself

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disappear from the world, you know, and therefore...

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..erm, we will struggle

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until a new generation of people comes, willing to take it on again.

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'But right now, octogenarian Sinclair Scott is more

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'concerned about one of the sheep being past its best.'

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He's getting on a bit, that's the trouble. You see,

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-if you look in here, he's round about five now.

-Right.

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-And that's really the limit. Once they're six year old, it's...

-Right.

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-Not the best eating.

-It needs to be cooked today for tomorrow.

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-If you cook them properly, it's very, very tender indeed.

-Yeah.

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-You know, it doesn't matter how old it is.

-Right.

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But once they get to six year old,

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-it's about time to maybe pension them off then.

-Right.

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They reach the same age as I have and has to be cooked very

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slowly indeed if you want to save your teeth for the future!

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DOUGIE LAUGHS

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'It will be at least two years before the people

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'of North Ronaldsay find out if their PGI application is successful.

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'Later in the programme,

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'I'll be joining Nick in the food van to cook some island mutton.

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'For the meanwhile,

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'I'm staying put to explore some more of North Ronaldsay

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'while Euan is a couple of hundred miles south,

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'about to take to the skies above the Cairngorms.

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MUSIC: Dedicated Follower Of Fashion by the Kinks

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# Cos he's a dedicated follower of fashion... #

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'1966, a great year for music, great telly,

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'and I was still in short trousers.'

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# Round the boutiques of London Town... #

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And here, in Feshie Bridge near Aviemore,

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something else was taking off - gliding.

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And folk took to the skies in craft like this, made of wood

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and canvas and no engine.

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And here we are, 50 years later, and the Cairngorm Gliding Club is

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still going strong and flying higher than ever.

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This is base.

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'79-year-old Bill Longstaff was one of the founding members.'

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So, how did you get started in flying?

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During the war, when I was a youngster of three or four

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or something like that, everybody was interested in aeroplanes.

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We had them going overhead and bombs dropping and things like that.

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So I bought my first book of aeroplanes

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when I was about four or five years of age.

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'But it wasn't until Bill moved to the Cairngorms that he finally

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'got the chance to fly as one of this club's first members.'

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You could train people by ground sliding,

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by towing them along the ground, either with a winch or a car,

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not fast enough to fly but to get the feel.

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And that went on fine until one day I was driving the winch and

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a chap called Angus Macleod was at the controls of our little glider,

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and he came off the ground

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and we finished up with a pile of matchwood.

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-So you were down to one glider at that point.

-Down to one glider.

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-Nick, how do you do?

-Ah, hello, Euan. Nice to meet you.

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-How are you doing?

-So, this is your machine.

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-This is my Ash 25 glider.

-Wow.

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'And soon it's time for me to take to the skies.

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'My instructor is former North Sea helicopter pilot Nick Norman.

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'It's his job to keep me safe.'

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-So, have we got a good day for it?

-..and that hooks over.

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Yeah, it's a lovely day, nice and sunny, no showers yet.

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That looks perfect to me.

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So, if you needed to use the parachute, there's the D ring

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here, so you would just, with both hands, pull down really hard.

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-And it's never going to happen, so you'll be fine.

-OK!

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'A tow plane takes us to a height where it's

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'safe to start gliding, usually around 2,000 feet.

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'Once he's happy, Nick will detach the tow rope.'

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Right, I've come off tow.

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There's going to be a big pull when I put the undercarriage up...

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which is like that.

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So now we're gliding with the undercarriage up

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and it's a little bit quieter.

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-So, now we're on our own.

-So, now we're on our own,

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and we're heading for a dark cloud,

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hoping to find an updraught in it, which is going to take us

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up to the bottom of the cloud.

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That's the plan, but in gliding nothing is certain.

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'Nick gets the glider to climb by using thermals,

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'rising columns of hot air.'

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I'm going to circle in this lift now.

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You can see we're climbing up to 600 feet a minute here.

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So I'm going to start to circle in order to stay in this rising

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column of air.

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It's amazing how Nick manages to read the landscape

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'and the skies, but it's taken years of practice.'

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To my eye, the lift is as clear as anything,

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and I can see a cloud that's going to work, another cloud that's dead,

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or a group of clouds that are going to work.

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So it's not just random, we don't just randomly fly along,

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you know, until we hit the ground, it's not like that.

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But the skill is assessing the weather, working out the lift,

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and our height is our energy.

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Your height is like the fuel in your car.

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So, you know, when you get low on fuel, you find a thermal,

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you circle in it, you top up...

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-and then you carry on.

-This is great, flying...

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I was going to say for free, but using free resources.

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Yeah, absolutely, and you can stay up for hours.

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'Nick recently used his skills to break a club record,

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'gilding to more than 28,000 feet.'

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We were climbing about 700, 800 feet a minute, we got

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clearance from air-traffic control

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to go above 20,000 feet, which you have to have,

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and we eventually topped out at 28,534 feet above sea level.

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-Did you need oxygen for that?

-Oh, yes, absolutely.

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We have an oxygen system, which is this device here.

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And so we were on oxygen above 10,000 feet.

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It was very cold.

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It was off the end of the scale on my temperature gauge.

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I think it was about minus 35.

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'We've not reached those dizzying heights today, but I've still

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'had lots of fun and, even better,

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'we end up safely back on the ground.'

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Well, that was truly amazing.

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You know, sometimes you really get spoiled in this job. Last week,

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I was shovelling coal on the footplate of the Flying Scotsman,

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this week in a big, massive glider soaring high above

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the Cairngorms, up with the eagles.

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Absolutely fantastic.

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As I travel thousands of miles crisscrossing Scotland,

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I'm going to be showing you some of my favourite

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places, and today, because I'm on North Ronaldsay,

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it has to be the Bird Observatory.

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'Hundreds of thousands of birds make landfall

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'here during the spring migrations.

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'Euan Ferguson, one of the observatory's ornithologists,

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'has something to show me.'

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-A goldcrest.

-Oh, wow!

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They are extremely small birds, the smallest bird in Europe.

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'This goldcrest is on the way from southern Europe to its summer

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'home in Scandinavia.'

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I'm checking to see how much fat it's got, and it's actually got

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quite a lot of fat, which suggests this bird is

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getting ready to move on and continue its migration.

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I should just see how much this guy weighs.

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So, this only weighs four grams.

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-So, what's that the equivalent of?

-I'm not sure.

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Maybe a ten-pence piece?

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4.2, so this actually weighs less than a ten-pence piece.

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That's incredible. That's incredible!

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This tiny bird here, who's done such a massive journey.

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-It's amazing to think.

-Wow!

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-So now we just let the bird go.

-Just let it go.

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It's quite breezy out here.

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'Not only small, it's fast, too.'

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There he goes!

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Well, North Ronaldsay is a bird-watcher's paradise,

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and if you come to the observatory,

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not only can you have a marvellous time but it's also

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home to the only restaurant, shop and bar on the island.

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-Bar. That sounds a very good idea. Ewan, shall we?

-Aye.

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'Now, from a migratory visitor on North Ronaldsay to the

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'shores of Loch Ness,

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'where Euan is investigating reports that long-extinct wolves have

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'been heard in the hills of the Dundreggan estate.'

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At one time, the hills and glens of Scotland would have been dominated

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by pines and oaks and predators like wolves, bear and lynx.

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But the extinction of those animals meant that deer would

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thrive in large numbers,

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and the deer impact on the young, emerging shoots of our trees.

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But that could be about to change, because once again...

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there are wolves in these hills.

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HOWLING

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WHISTLES BLOW

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'The wolves are a group of volunteers at the estate where the

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'charity Trees for Life is working to restore the Caledonian forest.

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'The idea is that they mimic the activity of the wolf

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'and scare off deer, who feed on the newly planted seedlings.'

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Project Wolf is about helping the forest to restore itself.

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'Doug Gilbert is in charge of the project,

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'and he's showing me the damage that the deer can cause.'

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We've actually got a prime example down here.

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-Is this a rowan here?

-So, this is a rowan tree.

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It's really palatable. So, deer love rowan trees.

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They want to eat as many of them as they can.

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If the wolves aren't there - human or otherwise -

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they'll just devastate this bit, will they?

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Well, they would certainly take all the rowans, yeah, and so,

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as you can see, in this forest there's a lack of rowan seed trees.

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That's because of a long history.

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'Humans pretending to be wolves might seem ludicrous, but

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'Alan Watson Featherstone, founder of Trees for Life,

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'is deadly serious.'

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Well, it's really about replicating some of the missing

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functions of species that belong in this ecosystem here

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that are absent at the moment.

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And because of that, it's like a tattered remnant

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and it's not able to function properly.

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'Alan maintains that if the deer can be kept away,

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'the forest will flourish.'

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We would get more pines, we'd get more oak,

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and we'd get a varied forest rather than this sort of standardised

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birch wood that we've got at the moment.

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And when we get more tree species, it's

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a wonderful home for invertebrates,

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it supports hundreds of species of invertebrates, and they provide

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food for birds, and the whole web of life becomes re-established.

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'This process of rewilding has a bigger aim.

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'Once the woodland has been regenerated,

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'it's hoped the human variety of predator could make

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'way for the return of some long-disappeared four-legged ones.'

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You've got your own team of wolves at the moment out there.

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It's a controversial debate, as you well know.

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I would imagine wolves a long, long way away.

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Lynx seem to be bubbling to the surface.

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-There's a lot more conversation about lynx.

-Yes.

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I mean, I think lynx is a much easier

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and less controversial animal to consider.

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It's solitary, it's smaller, it is no threat to people

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and it's much less of a threat to livestock, too.

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'But until then,

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'Dundreggan will have to make do with its human deer-scarers.'

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-Hi, guys.

-Hello, Euan.

-Alan. Laura.

-Hi.

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'I caught up with them after a night on the prowl.'

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You guys have been out on patrol the past few nights.

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-What kind of things have you been seeing?

-We've seen sika and red.

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We've just seen a couple of sika up on the hill ridge

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and a couple of red.

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We saw a couple of flashes of the white tail of the sika,

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but they did prance off quite quickly.

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So, why do you want to do this in a midgie-infested Highland glen,

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being out there at night chasing deer?

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Well, basically, I love my country.

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I love conservation, and this project is basically to protect

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the trees and the wildlife

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and rewild this area of the Caledonian Forest.

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Is howling compulsory, or is it just fun?

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It's probably more fun,

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because wolves don't actually howl when they hunt.

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-So it's more creating a noise to disturb them. Yeah.

-Quick howl?

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THEY ALL HOWL

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This project is very much in the early stages,

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but the work that the human wolves have been doing has proved

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that regeneration can be helped by moving the deer on,

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and it opens up the whole debate about rewilding.

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And who knows, possibly lynx...

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and maybe even wolves might once again roam in these forests.

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HOWLING

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'Last year on Landward, we looked at the complex

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'conflict between creel fishermen and trawlers on the west coast.

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'But it's not an isolated problem.

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'Tension is also growing on the other side of the country.

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'Here in the inshore waters of the east coast, there have been

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'lucrative creel-fishing grounds for generations.

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'But now, creel fishermen fear for their livelihoods as trawlers

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'are creeping ever closer to the relatively shallow coastal

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'waters they fish.'

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-How's it going? All right?

-Good, Dougie, good.

-Oh, smashing.

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'I've come to Stonehaven to spend a day with fisherman Ian Mathieson.

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'I want to hear first-hand about the problems he faces

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'and his thoughts on potential solutions.

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'Ian has been fishing these waters for nearly 15 years.

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'His catch of crab and lobster is sold all over the world,

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'supporting Ian's family as well as three others.'

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What are you looking for?

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Are quite a few going back because of size, and stuff?

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We have a set size that we have to catch.

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-You know, that's the rules and regulations regarding size.

-Aye.

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There you go, there's what it's all about. Look at the eggs in that.

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That's our future. Put him back and it looks after the ground.

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Absolutely.

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That's the good thing about creeling - there's no by-catch,

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you just put them straight back.

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-Uh-huh.

-And then we'll catch them again.

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'So, no waste.

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'In the last few years, though,

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'Ian's business has started to suffer.

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'Bigger trawlers looking for fish, squid

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'and shellfish began to work in his traditional grounds.

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'More than once, their nets and fishing gear have destroyed

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'Ian's creels, catching and dragging them along the seabed.'

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Well, initially, we had a lot of problems with the scallop boats,

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but recently they've got a lot better, a lot better.

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The lads are phoning us up, they're working with us on the radio.

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But we've still got a few, and it doesn't take much.

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But we've also got problems with the squid boats.

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-That's a relatively new fishery for here.

-Uh-huh.

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They've been here a while, but they've left us alone.

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But last year, they hammered us. We lost 180 pots to them last year,

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and they feel aggrieved that we're actually there.

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I mean, it's fishermen destroying other fishermen.

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I can't understand why.

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If they work with us, we can work with them.

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Unfortunately, they tow your gear away

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and THEN they ask you to work with them.

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-Right!

-There's not much co-operation there.

-No.

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So, who is potentially policing all this? Or is nobody doing it?

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Well, it's meant to be Marine Scotland.

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They're in charge of the waters.

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But their excuse is they have no judicial powers.

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And, really, it's a cop-out.

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-You know, they are the sea police, if you want to call them that.

-Yeah.

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It's up to them to step up to the plate.

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It's time to do something about it, and it's a shame,

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because it's affecting the fishing industry.

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We're getting a bad name from the environmentalists and all the rest,

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and really, Marine Scotland could sort it out overnight.

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'We asked Marine Scotland for their response to Ian's situation,

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'and they said:'

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"Marine Scotland officers around the coast play an active role in..."

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'All Ian wants is a solution to conflict that's acceptable

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'to all sides.'

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Would there be an excuse that people don't know where your gear is,

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so they're just going over the top of it?

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Well, that's certainly been an issue in the past, but not now.

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With modern technology and the set-up that we have at the moment,

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the gear is well marked, we give out the positions of our gear,

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there's a 24-hour website, their own fishing organisations

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are e-mailed on a monthly basis an update on the positions.

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We were asked to move gear this year -

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well, not asked, we were told to move gear this

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year by some of them, and it was just blatant.

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It was just, "Move it or else."

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So that isn't, you know, a mistake. That's just blatant.

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The ground doesn't belong to anybody.

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You know, it's to be shared by all of us.

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And if we have to move a little bit

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with guys that are co-operating with us, we'll move.

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But we're not going to be dictated to and told,

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"Get out of there or else." That's nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

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Times are tough on the east coat,

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with the creel fishermen feeling the impact of the trawlers,

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and with the squid boats soon to arrive,

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it could be a challenging summer for the creelers.

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'If you've got any thoughts on the problems facing the fishing

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'industry - or anything else, for that matter - you can

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'get in touch via our Facebook page or e-mail.

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'Earlier in the programme,

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'I tracked down the legendary sheep of North Ronaldsay.

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'Now I need to find out if their taste is as unique as it's claimed.

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'And who better to help me than Nick Nairn?

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'He's in our street-food van,

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'and this time we're cooking for the citizens of Stirling.'

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-Dougie! North Ronaldsay.

-Yeah.

-How was it?

-Amazing.

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Absolutely fantastic. Beautiful island.

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No trees, no mountains, no hills.

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But it was absolutely stunning.

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-We had pretty good weather, as well. This is your challenge.

-Not lamb.

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-It's not lamb.

-No, this is three years old, very dark meat.

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A lot of fat.

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I'm going to trim the mutton off, take quite a lot of the fat off,

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-season it up and then cook it on the griddle.

-Yeah.

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-Meanwhile, you are going to make some garlic butter.

-OK.

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So, Doug, you were up there with farmers in North Ronaldsay.

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And they're going to apply for PGI status for the North Ronaldsay lamb.

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-Yep.

-Why?

-They reckon that because the sheep are grazing

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on the foreshore and eating mainly seaweed,

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it gives it a particular flavour,

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and they reckon that people should know

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if it comes from North Ronaldsay, and they've got a point.

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And did they tell you about mutton as opposed to lamb,

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-the difference in age?

-No. Talk me through it.

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-Well, mutton is three years old, so this is an old sheep.

-Right.

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But what it does do is it gives it quite a strong flavour,

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and it can be a wee bit teuch.

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-Yes.

-So, normally I would cook chops rare, really rare and juicy,

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-but I think we're going to cook these medium well.

-Right.

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I think I'm not going to take any risks with this.

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We'll give them a good cook.

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Pan with butter. In goes the garlic.

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I'm going to season the lamb with salt and a bit of pepper.

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So, a fair glug of olive oil.

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A fair glug of olive oil, you're absolutely right, Dougie.

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Normally when you're cooking lamb chops,

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the challenge is to try and get the fat on the outside crisped up

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without overcooking the meat on the inside.

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But with mutton, it's going to be cooked all the way through.

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So it's much easier, it's much less critical.

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So, really, we can just put them on, get a coffee, pull up a chair.

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'While Nick takes it easy, I chop up the parsley and mint

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'and add to the garlic butter.'

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Is that better?

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THEY COUGH

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'Maybe Nick should have watched it a bit more closely...'

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You're blowing it in at me!

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'At least the van is open-air.'

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Oh!

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'A little bit of lemon, and the garlic butter is ready.'

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Here we go.

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North Ronaldsay mutton chops!

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-Shall we have a tasty?

-I think we should have a tasty.

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-I'll have this one.

-I'll have that one there.

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Oh, that's really nice. I don't want to sound surprised!

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That is a good flavour, yeah.

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-Now...

-There's some chewing in there, but it's not...

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-No, no, this is not spring lamb.

-No.

-This has got a bit of age to it.

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But a huge depth of flavour. But that is very good!

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-Very nice, yeah.

-Let's see what the guys in Stirling think.

-Let's do it.

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OK!

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Very nice.

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-That is absolutely delicious.

-Yeah?

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-It's got a hint of game.

-Any hint of seaweed?

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-Actually, the aftertaste on your tongue, you can.

-Really?

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But it's not strong.

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I wouldn't normally eat lamb or mutton pink, but that's really nice.

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It's no' bad, is it?

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-Moist.

-Mm-hm.

-And tender.

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Phenomenal.

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It does taste like mutton. It's nice, though.

0:27:070:27:10

Sir, do you want a wee tasty of North Ronaldsay lamb?

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That's tasty.

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-Yeah?

-I'm a butcher. That's very, very tasty.

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-People are liking my butter and garlic and...

-My recipe.

0:27:170:27:20

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-You taste a wee bit of seaweed.

-Really?

-Aye.

-Mm-hm.

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-The taste of the sea!

-And I love the salty taste. It's really nice.

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-That's the best lamb I've tasted.

-Really?

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THEY LAUGH

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Everybody loved it!

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It's amazing, because normally, some people

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kind of don't like something, but actually, universally...

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I don't think we've ever done this before

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and everybody has said it's fantastic.

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But it takes a bit of cooking.

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It takes a bit of careful cooking by an experienced chef like myself!

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Exactly! And on that note,

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just time to tell you what's coming up next time around.

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'Sarah's in hospital trying to improve the reputation of the food.'

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Here we have the evening meal.

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It's mince and onions for approximately 600.

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-That is a shedload of mince.

-Yes.

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'And I assist researchers trying to find out what happens to the

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'salmon from our rivers.'

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So, this will give us a picture of what the whole population is, so

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we can look at survival of different age groups

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and how that might change over time.

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'That's next Friday on BBC One Scotland at 8:30.'

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In the meantime, from all of the Landward team here in Stirling,

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-thank you so much for your company. Bye for now.

-Goodbye.

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