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Good evening from rainy Cheshire. Last time we had a television fist

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with this live view of the northern lights in Norway. But we're not

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settling for that - tonight we're sending our cameras up to 30,000

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feet to get away from the clouds, the light pollution, and any

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possible moisture in the air to get the clearest possible view. And

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there is a lot of moisture in the air. Unless, that is, you've flown

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throught them as one of our guests tonight has. We've got the commander

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of the International Space Station and one of the first crew ever to

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fly in an Apollo spacecraft. I'm Brian Cox. I'm Dara O Briain. And

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this is Stargazing Live. Tonight's show is ah about space

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eggs mroeration. -- exploration. Two of my heroes are in the building.

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From the first crew to fly an Apollo space craft 46 years, ago, Walter

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Cunningham is here. And commander Chris Hadfield. There they are,

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relaxing as only astronauts can. That is thousand relax. -- that is

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how to relax. If you have any questions send them to us. The

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addresses are on the screen. I have been distracted horribly by that. By

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the fabulous view. What is that? It is glorious. The Hubble telescope is

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usually in that beautiful position, because it looks nice. But it will

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move and do some observing, that is because of some of the lenses you

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found last night. One is so interesting that the Hubble will

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image it during the show. Real science going on. Stuff you have

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done is making that turn. Photographs you have sent in of the

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aurora. This is a photograph from last night. We saw the aurora in

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Norway. This is from Caithness in Scotland. Another one from Scotland,

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Gordon took that one last night. We expect more. There is something

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interesting that happened before we came on air to do with this sunspot

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group. AR1944 and AR1966. You could fit seven earths in this. If you

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look at this video, last night about 6pm, the earth is about here. This

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is one of space craft at right angles to the sun. We are looking on

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to the sun and the earth is here. About 6. 30 last night, that

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happened. That is a big coronal mass ejection. That is a big flux of

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solar wind on its way us to. When will it get to us? Just after

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midnight. It delayed the launch of a supply space craft to the

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International Space Station today. So that could have a big effect. We

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knowed you last night -- showed you last night... Your place is gone.

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This is our globe. There is Africa and Europe and there we are. Now,

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normally the aurora would be the golden circle here, we believe

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because of the amount of stuff thrown up, it could extend as far as

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the blue area. That extends over the British Isles and Ireland and we

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could get good aurora photographs from you 12. 38 tonight. It will be

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worth your while if it is clear in Scotland. As far north as

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Manchester. Even as far south possibly down to London. It is

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unlikely, but if it is clear, we will show you how to take the

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photographs. This is a powerful CME on its way. It is like we planned

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it. Perfectly timed. Now we're on an aurora hunt. We have set the task of

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taking our cameras to a better vantage point. Liz where are you?

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Tonight we're trying something that has never been done. We are going

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aurora hunting from this aircraft live on television. We are going to

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eliminate the risk of having our view obscured by clouds and light.

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We will be at 30,000 feet above Norway on the hunt for the aurora

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borealis. See you soon. Look at the ball. We will catch up with her in a

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while. Now back to earth after a gloriously clear night in noer to

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being -- Norfolk, Mark joins us in the rain. I seem to have brought the

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rain. But I shall show you how you can spot satellites in space with

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the naked eye and even the International Space Station.

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Astronomy is a social activity and that has been true this week with

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star parties across the country. And this is the scene of a massive one

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in Portsmouth with over 5,000 people there. They had telescopes and

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demonstrations, stage acts and a solar system. There are more star

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part yirs to come. So check the web-site for details. If you're

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going for one tomorrow, look out for me and the crew. Use that same

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address to get your aurora photographs in. In a moment we will

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meet our special guest. First let's see how far we have gone into space

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over the last few decades. You're hearing the signals transmitted by

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the satellite. One of the great scientific feats of the age. When it

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comes to pin pointing the moment we first made to it space, a small

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sphere called Sputnik often gets the credit. But it was the first item

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into orbit. We had reached space over a decade earlier. Our first

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trip wasn't one to be celebrated. A Nazi V2 rocket hurtled out above the

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earth's surface. And started the space age with a deadly bang. It was

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1961 before we could cheer our first real live space man from Russia. As

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he looked down at earth. He made it 203 miles from the earth's surface

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and returned a hero. When you think our planet's 8,000 miles across,

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this was a tiny step for mankind. The giant leap came eight years

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later. We choose to go to the moon, because that goal will serve to

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organise and measure the best of our energies and skills. On July 16th

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1969 Apollo 11 blasted off from Kennedy Space Centre. Four days

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later, Neil Armstrong made history. It's one small step for man. One

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giant leap for mankind. But Neil, Buzz and Michael don't hold the

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distance record. Three astronauts just fwhaement. But not exactly on

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purpose. -- just beat them. The We have a problem here. When Apollo 13

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aborted its lunar landing its trajectory took it further from the

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earth than anyone has been before or since. But we will forgive the crew

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for having other things on their mind at the time. Impressive stuff

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from our spacemen. But they only managed local trips, compared to our

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robots in space. We have landed re-Botts on two planets. -- robots

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on two planets. Venus and the red planet, Mars. Which even at its

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closest point is 34 million miles from earth. Russia got there first

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with the Mars 3 probe. But NASA's Opportunity Rover landed in 2004 and

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drove around the surface for 22 miles, making it our top planetary

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explorer. But some never end their journeys. We have sent dozens of

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probes, some spend their lives orbiting the sun. Others go on to

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roam the planetary season. Cassini is almost a billion miles from

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earth. For the real long haul trophy there can be only one winner. In

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1977 the probe Voyager 1 blasted off. But it was a little probe that

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wouldn't stop. After diligently visiting Jupiter and Saturn, it has

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kept going for almost four decades. In August last year it passed

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another milestone for mankind and became the first man-made object to

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enter inter-Stellar space. We have Chris Hadfield with us now. A space

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veteran. Welcome to the show. You, as many of us did, grew up with that

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history. What was it that made you decide to become a part of it and be

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an astronaut. It was wonderful to see those images it was on a black

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and white television watching Neil and Buzz, the reality of that and

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the science fiction of the 2001 space odd essy and Star Trek, all

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that was very enabling for nine-year-old boy to see that

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fantasy can come true. I consciously decided when on July 20th they

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walked on the moon. Did you think that was going to happen. You went

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into the air force. Was that all the plan? It seems to be a plan now.

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Canada had no astronaut programme. But I recognised you have to turn

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yourself into an astronaut if you want to become one. I go to

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university and learned to fly through the cadets and joined the

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air force and became a test pilot and in my 30s, Canada had an

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astronaut selection and I was an astronaut for 21 years. You have

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done two shuttle mission and one ISS mission, that lasted for six months.

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We have a lot of questions that boil down to, what is life in space like?

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It is two main differences. One is you're weightless all the time.

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Which is magic to be able to fly. Something as mundane as clipping

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your names is different in weightlessness. The other more

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magnificent part is every time you go by the window, you're orbiting

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around the world and the world is turning and you see the whole planet

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over and over again. That combination of the mundane and the

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beauty of the world it was better than I dreamed it would be when I

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was nine. I hear many astronauts speak of the experience of being in

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space and they all say it changes them, it changes their view of the

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earth and themselves, how did it change you? You spent 240 days in

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space? About six months in total. I didn't have a sudden epiphany or

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huge change in direction, I think it is because of the experience of the

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people that had gone before. But I think what it did fully was broaden

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my own horizons of the world. What I would view growing up is us and

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them. The line where them is recedes, until the whole thing

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becomes us. You get a sense of oneness that we are all in this

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together. That perspective I did my best to share through the

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photographs and social media and it sure had a profound effect on my

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views. When you have spent a six months tour, is it possible to have

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a normal day? Are your days 24 hours long? You wake up that watch that is

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floating there woke me at 6am and we would clean with a sponge bath and

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work through the day and get ready for bed at night. You pull up the

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sleeping back and you stay warm and float next to the warm. Shut off the

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light and it is the most relaxing sleep you can imagine. You can relax

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every muscle in your body and hover in the sleeping bag until the alarm

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goes off. Is it possible to get a good night's sleep. It is a

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dangerous environment to work isn't it? You're up there. Once in a while

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you here a merior iet ricochet over outside and it is a reminder of

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where you are. In a building, you think your bullet proof, when you

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hear one of those hit, you recognise you're in a metal bubble, but you

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get used to where you are and focus on the reality and if things go

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badly, they will go badly in a hurry. We practice fire alarms,

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things, all the time. You cannot let fear dominate. You have to focus on

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the reality. We have got a number of questions about the aurora, what

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would happen if you were to physically fly through it, you have

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done that? I was outside on my first spacewalk.

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We moved some thermal covers, I was carrying a big bubble of laundry.

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The arm was moving around, I had a long time to wait. I shut off the

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weight and let my eyes adjust, I saw the southern lights and we went

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through them. They were rippling for as far as the eye could see. Colours

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early visible in an image, the Reds, purple colours, so much more

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visible and powerful to the human eye and the movement, almost as if

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it was pouring and flowing I do think it is going on all the time on

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our planet and only once in awhile can we see it. I told the crew, you

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have got to see them, they shut off all the lights and took pictures

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until we drove into the dawn over New Zealand. An incredible

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existence. What has always intrigued me is what it is like to float

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weightlessness in space and I went on a mission to find out why

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astronauts are weightless. We have all seen the footage,

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obviously astronauts flow but it is an easy estate to presume the reason

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they float is because of where they are but if you travel 600, just

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great up gravity will recede and will have less than appalled when it

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does on earth. We can demonstrate that here. The flight we are going

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on to day, it is a research flight, filled with scientists and

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experiments, but none of us are going into space. Over the next hour

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or two this specially modified plane will fly 30,000 feet and plummet

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towards Earth 25 times. Each time we will all briefly experienced

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weightlessness. I can pretend this is about the science, but I feel

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like an eight-year-old child. As excited as I am, this overgrown

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roller-coaster ride isn't just for fun. It is also one of the ways

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astronauts train to cope with life in space. We were talking about how

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disorientating parts of this flight company. That happened when I got

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in, I have never been in plain as down as this. It is just rows of

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seats in a giant padded room will stop -- will stop after take-off

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time for the scientists to set up their experiments. And for me to get

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my head round what really makes astronauts weightless. Even if you

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go up to where the ISS is, gravity is still about 90% of here, if you

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walk up the ladder and stepped up you would fall down again. The key

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to weightlessness is in falling which is what we are about to

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demonstrate. At 30,000 feet the pilot throttles

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back. Plunging us towards Earth in a series of steep arcs. Each time the

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plane does this we get a few moments of weightlessness. And the sensation

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is incredible. The trouble is, even the most basic

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tasks like facing the camera become impossible. Just as suddenly, it is

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over. But not for long. So what is making us feel weightless? It is

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astonishing. It is like all the weight leads your body and you float

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off and all we are doing is freefalling towards Earth, along

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with the aeroplane. How are you? It is just the same for astronauts in

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orbit. What is happening in the ISS is they are basically falling

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towards Earth all the time. And so it feels to them like weightlessness

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stop and we are down. The only difference between us is that I am

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falling recently towards Earth, while astronauts are falling

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constantly around the Earth. Let me explain. Imagine an astronaut

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falling to earth like me. Give him a push sideways and he will keep

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moving sideways as he falls. Pushing too hard and he will head off

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towards the moon. Pushing just right and he will never get any closer or

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further away, he will stay in orbit. In constant freefall he will feel

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weightless all the time. Whereas for me, the pleasure is painfully short

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lived. I am OK, I'm grand. It is incredibly counterintuitive, I have

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done a lot of scuba-diving, you naturally kick, you are just a large

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man in space kicking anything around him. I went careering off, and

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luckily a scientist broke my full. -- fall. Whether you are an

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astronaut in space or just a man in a jumpsuit it is not a lack of

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gravity that makes you float. After plummeting to earth 25 times I was

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quite relieved to land. Thank you, very much. Two things I am allowed

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to do, I can take my name tag and put it the right way up because I am

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an experienced flier. The most important souvenir I took is an

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empty sick bag. Nearly got me, didn't get me. Very proud, I am, of

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not being ill on that flight. There is a British scientist called Dan

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who was on it too had a big stain of being ill. They wrapped him in a

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ball and picked him up and pushed him down the plane and he bowled

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down to the back of the plane and stabbed him into a chair. Is that

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anything like it was to mark -- is it anything like it?

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The people who are sick in a plain don't always get sick in space. The

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difference may be tween diving into the water and staying floating

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scuba-diving. One is a transition, one is permanent. I will just

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enjoying playing with a spate see ash spacesuit. If you want to see

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the ISS itself it passes overhead regularly.

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It is really easy to see, this is an image we have got and you can see it

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moving down the screen. If you want to see it really clearly you need a

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powerful lens and we are lucky enough to get this fantastic view

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with a super zoom lens. You can see the solar panels wonderfully. You

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can have a go at spotting it yourself, all you need is your

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smartphone . The ISS orbit at an altitude of 240 miles and travels

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17,000 mph, a colossal speed, and the speed is one of the ways you can

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tell you are looking at satellite and not a shooting star or an

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aeroplane. This is what a shooting star looks like. You can see the

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image as it goes across the screen, very quick and fast and that is how

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you can tell it is a shooting star, not a space station. They are not

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man made. A few miles up, they just whizz across the sky. Planes are on

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the other hand, have flashing lights. You can just detect the

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flashing lights. They move a bit more steady and can be mistaken for

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satellites. Satellites move at the Miller speeds to aircraft and you

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can see one at the bottom of this image, but they don't flash and that

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is the key way of telling whether it is an aircraft or a satellite. Based

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-- they can sometimes disappear over the horizon, you sometimes see them

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vanish. They flow into the shadow of the Earth. Back to the aurora, your

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photos are coming in thick and fast. We have seen this image from the

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North of Iceland. You can see the wonderful green and the folds in the

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display. Another image taken in Tromso with vivid green colours.

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There is a chance of an aurora over the UK tomorrow night so if you want

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to try and photograph it you will need a DSL are camera on a tripod

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much like this, set the focus to infinity, the ISA to 800, the

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aperture as wide as possible and try exposures of 15 seconds but don't be

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afraid to experiment with the settings because it can vary in

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brightness. Try and get some landscape in as well for top played

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your photos to the website so we can take a look. -- upload your photos.

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Let's see how Liz is doing. How is it going?

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Hello. How are you doing? We are transmitting live on our aurora

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Hunt, 32,000 feet above more than Norway. Our plane is jam-packed full

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of people and equipment, our specialist lowlight cameras, one

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trained on the night sky, specialist live transmission gear allowing us

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to transmit the footage live, and can I just show you what we are

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looking at outside our window? What do you make of this?

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Lovely, very impressive. Difficult to find the words without saying,

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that is very readable. It is a completely different view --

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beautiful. It looks different. Because it is high, I want to ask if

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it is clearer. Is it different to what you saw yesterday?

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That is the thing. We are getting a different vantage point. It has been

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snowing non-stop today. You can see the cloud cover, the clear sky,

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beautiful starry night. Up here we don't have the problem of light

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pollution and certainly cloud cover. As and when this changes we will be

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there to look at it and get you the footage. With me on this flight is

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Pete Lawrence, becoming my best friend and he will be our expert.

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What you make of this? It is really dark outside, the stars are shining

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brightly, the aurora is the star of the show. It has been changing quite

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a lot. You have taken part in 200 searches for Aurora, can change into

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something more colourful, bigger, brighter, faster, better? It is

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pretty weak but it is very pretty, it could build up or go away. Thank

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you so much for joining us, keep your eyes peeled. He will be our

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expert eyes for the next two nights. This vantage point, getting closer,

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not only allows us to admire it but allows scientists to understand them

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better. It is possible to get inside one, would you believe it and it is

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something scientists are doing. This is the island of and/or your on

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the West Coast of Norway on the Arctic Circle. -- Andoya. Scientists

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are try to find out what goes on inside the aurora borealis. They are

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employing a number of methods including firing out lasers to

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analyse the lower lobe -- lower layers of the atmosphere. These can

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reach a height of 110 kilometres, pretty impressive, but still not

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quite high enough to reach the aurora, to be able to study them

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properly for stop you need some serious space technology to do that.

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Rockets. Packed with scientific instruments and launched directly

:29:15.:29:19.

into the heart of the aurora. Rockets like these can only go in

:29:20.:29:25.

one direction, straight up, so an aurora has to pass directly overhead

:29:26.:29:31.

before the team can launch. It is predefined by the launcher, we

:29:32.:29:40.

are waiting for it to move in a manner we know, we are waiting for

:29:41.:29:46.

the right conditions. You waiting for it to come to the

:29:47.:29:54.

rocket. Recent missions have helped them discover the shifting patterns

:29:55.:29:58.

of light are caused by charged particles falling in vertical bands

:29:59.:30:06.

just a few metres across. They're next mission is to work out why and

:30:07.:30:11.

so unlock more of the secrets of this stunning phenomenon. Their next

:30:12.:30:20.

rocket is almost ready for launch. So this is it? This is the

:30:21.:30:27.

scientific payload and will do all the measurements. Yes, it is a

:30:28.:30:32.

scientific payload. How long does it have to take its measurements in the

:30:33.:30:37.

centre of the aurora. A minute. A few minutes. That is all. Once

:30:38.:30:45.

airborne it is critical that the rocket gathers as much information

:30:46.:30:50.

as possible as quickly as possible. Once it reaches 75 kilometres, the

:30:51.:30:57.

nose cone will open and the instruments will begin to take

:30:58.:31:02.

measurements. On each of these four tips we have these needle probes and

:31:03.:31:14.

those these look like what is it called acupuncture. That will

:31:15.:31:18.

measure how they work. The needles will detect and temperature and

:31:19.:31:23.

electrical charge of particles creating the light. This information

:31:24.:31:28.

will then be transmitted back to the control centre to be analysed by the

:31:29.:31:34.

team. But in the end, the success of the mission will depend on the

:31:35.:31:42.

perfect launch. There are a lot of things happening around the

:31:43.:31:45.

scientists. The scientists can't do anything any more. He can just say

:31:46.:31:52.

yes go and he can say stop until the last second. At that moment,

:31:53.:31:56.

everyone crosses their fingers. Have you ever missed the aurora? No, I

:31:57.:32:04.

cannot remember. We are not quite as close as those

:32:05.:32:12.

rockets to the aurora borealis, but at 32,000 feet we are not doing

:32:13.:32:17.

badly and it is still shining there in its beautiful green hue. We were

:32:18.:32:24.

talking about how the electrons in an aurora travel in narrow bands,

:32:25.:32:30.

but then this aurora is part of a bigger picture, part of a bigger

:32:31.:32:34.

area that is a circular shape over the poles? Yes it is down to the

:32:35.:32:42.

shape of theeth's magnetic -- the earth's magnetic field. As they go

:32:43.:32:46.

through atmosphere, they form a ring of glowing light. Basically a

:32:47.:32:53.

circular shape where the aurora can appear. Is it a perfect circle? No

:32:54.:33:01.

the earth's magnetic field, the solar winds squashes the magnetic

:33:02.:33:08.

field towards the surface of the earth on the day side and elongates

:33:09.:33:12.

it on the night side. That affects the shape of the ring and pushes it

:33:13.:33:17.

towards the magnetic pole on the day side and elongates it away on the

:33:18.:33:26.

night side. So it is an oval. It is the auroral oval. Is this part of

:33:27.:33:34.

the oval circling, you can almost see the shape over the globe. Yes

:33:35.:33:39.

like a crown around the top of the earth. It is very beautiful. The

:33:40.:33:43.

aurora from last night inspired some viewers to write in some questions.

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Can I pose them to you? Yes of course. Eilie asked howled the

:33:51.:33:55.

aurora be used as an energy -- asked could the aurora be used as an

:33:56.:34:01.

energy source. Well one could power the UK. But the problem is getting

:34:02.:34:05.

up there to get at the energy. The aurora is enormous. We haven't got

:34:06.:34:09.

the Tegg nothing to do that -- technology do that. Might that

:34:10.:34:16.

happen in the future. I hope so. What about Stefan who asked what is

:34:17.:34:22.

the rarest colour of aurorae and why? The most common colour is green

:34:23.:34:32.

and then a ready brown and then a Pinkie band. The Holy Grail are the

:34:33.:34:39.

blues and purples in these huge structures. You need a very

:34:40.:34:44.

energetic display to see those. We are seeing green and no red on the

:34:45.:34:48.

top. But anything can happen at any point. That is the beauty of auroral

:34:49.:34:55.

hunting. Come back to us soon. Thank you. We can show you how the aurora

:34:56.:35:02.

forms with this contrapion. We will create an aurora in the jar, this

:35:03.:35:14.

was created by the scientist Kristian Birkland. The big ball

:35:15.:35:17.

represents the sun, the small one the earth. Both are electricically

:35:18.:35:24.

charged the earth ball has a magnetic field in it similar to the

:35:25.:35:29.

earth's. They run in a shape from one pole to the other. What you're

:35:30.:35:36.

seeing is because there is an trek charge -- electric charge, there are

:35:37.:35:44.

electrons streaming off on to the pole. This is, you can hear a hum.

:35:45.:35:49.

That is a vacuum pump. Some of the air has been pumped out to athrough

:35:50.:35:57.

electrons to make it across. But not all. There is nitrogen here. That is

:35:58.:36:02.

what Pete was talking about and that is this purple glow. That is what we

:36:03.:36:06.

are seeing. This is not a simulation, it is the same physics,

:36:07.:36:14.

electrons travelling down and hitting the nitrogen poll Cuells and

:36:15.:36:20.

-- molecules and emitting this glow. We have a question from Timothy he

:36:21.:36:29.

said how do they differ on different planets. Well the atmosphere is

:36:30.:36:36.

different. But the physics is the same. So the process is the same. If

:36:37.:36:42.

you have a nitrogen atmosphere you will get this purple glow. So the

:36:43.:36:47.

aurora is the same whether on Venus or here or in this jar, the physics

:36:48.:36:54.

is the same. Yes. This was first done in 1895, before the discovery

:36:55.:36:59.

of the electron. It was difficult to understand what was happening and

:37:00.:37:03.

these the models that allowed scientists to tease out the

:37:04.:37:06.

processes. We believe there is a good chance that we will see an

:37:07.:37:10.

aurora across the lot of the UK and Ireland tonight that will come down

:37:11.:37:16.

that far south. To give you an idea of whether it is possible, here is

:37:17.:37:21.

the weather. Very exciting news that that we have had more solar activity

:37:22.:37:25.

that will give us an enhanced chance of seeing the aurora borealis.

:37:26.:37:32.

Because it was more potent than last night, there is a chance in the UK.

:37:33.:37:37.

But we need the weather to play ball. Tonight more unwelcome rain

:37:38.:37:45.

for many. But for your star gaysters -- star-gazers, as the rain clears

:37:46.:37:50.

in the south we could have some clear skies. But watch out for fog

:37:51.:37:55.

in the north. Tomorrow, there is a better chance of seeing the aurora

:37:56.:37:59.

borealis. The weather will play ball and the skies will clear as we have

:38:00.:38:04.

high pressure. The only down side is it will be colder if you're heading

:38:05.:38:08.

out. But the cloud will melt away and there is a good chance in many

:38:09.:38:12.

parts. A better chance the further north you are of seeing the aurora

:38:13.:38:16.

borealis. But for other star gazing,ivity is a good night -- it

:38:17.:38:24.

is a good night. In 1961, president Kennedy pledged to land men on the

:38:25.:38:28.

moon by the end of the decade. This rocket took off seven years later.

:38:29.:38:34.

The first Apollo craft to carry a crew into space. Here they are.

:38:35.:38:42.

Possible and one of them here. It is colonel Walter Cunningham. Thank you

:38:43.:38:46.

for joining us. My pleasure. What inspired you to become an astronaut?

:38:47.:38:50.

You must have made a decision before the space race began? I don't know

:38:51.:38:55.

about the astronaut part, when I grew up, the only thing I can

:38:56.:38:59.

remember wanting to be when I was a kid was a fighter pilot. Out of

:39:00.:39:04.

school I became a Marine Corps fighter pilot and going back college

:39:05.:39:11.

and I was in cleng and -- college and they had the Mercury astronauts

:39:12.:39:16.

and I remember following them and envying them. But I will never

:39:17.:39:22.

forget May 5th 1961. It was early in the morning, I was driving to work

:39:23.:39:27.

and working while I was at college. I had to stop. It was before 7, to

:39:28.:39:33.

get to work early. Before 7 in California. Before 10 out in

:39:34.:39:37.

Florida. I was listening to the count down for the first Mercury

:39:38.:39:44.

flight, Alan Shepherd. It got down to the last couple of minutes and I

:39:45.:39:50.

pulled over to the side of the road and listened. When I got down, I

:39:51.:39:55.

remember five, four, three, two, one... Lift off! And I I heard a

:39:56.:40:03.

voice screaming around me and said you lucky son of a bitch! And I

:40:04.:40:12.

looked around, because I realised it was me screaming! At the time I was

:40:13.:40:17.

terribly impressed. Later I realised that was when I decided, boy, this

:40:18.:40:23.

is the way I'm going to do it - higher, fart, faster. -- high er

:40:24.:40:41.

fart, er further, faster. We had lost one crew and we were busy

:40:42.:40:49.

trying to test the space craft. . Everything we had been working with,

:40:50.:40:54.

we had to test all the systems. Some of most important ones is to have.

:40:55.:41:01.

This is your launch? Yes. We were enjoying it. We were enjoying the

:41:02.:41:05.

ride. What does it feel like being sat there at this point? The first

:41:06.:41:10.

test flight of this vehicle. Yes, it was. It was, the vibration was

:41:11.:41:16.

something you felt. But you we couldn't hear anything. We were

:41:17.:41:19.

faster than the speed of sound quickly and well ahead of it and the

:41:20.:41:24.

Gs, were more than they are today. A lot of things have changed from the

:41:25.:41:30.

programme then. Our job was to test everything in the craft, because if

:41:31.:41:34.

we had a good flight, then we were going to let Apollo 8 go around the

:41:35.:41:41.

moon. If we had had a problem, Apollo 8 would not have gone. How

:41:42.:41:47.

long were you in orbit. 11 days. How did it perform, the first flight of

:41:48.:41:52.

a new vehicle? Following the first attempt, that was Apollo 1, the

:41:53.:41:58.

vehicle was not all that good. We knew it but thought we could

:41:59.:42:02.

compensate for it with our skills. When they fixed everything that

:42:03.:42:07.

could have caused the fire and things we wanted installed. When we

:42:08.:42:13.

flew it, it was amazing. It was the longest, most ambitious, most

:42:14.:42:18.

successful test flight of any machine, it was almost perfect. When

:42:19.:42:23.

you look at the timeline, it is astonishing from a modern

:42:24.:42:30.

perspective, you flew October 1968, a month and a half later Apollo 8

:42:31.:42:37.

and then you go and land on the moon in 69. What was it like being

:42:38.:42:40.

involved in such a programme? This national goal, we are going to go

:42:41.:42:46.

there by 1970? We had a mission scheduled every two months. If

:42:47.:42:51.

everything wept perfect -- went perfect that is the way it went. We

:42:52.:42:58.

didn't expect it to be perfect. Everyone was committed. It wasn't

:42:59.:43:03.

just the crew. We got the attention, but it was the really the commitment

:43:04.:43:08.

from the engineering, from the Mission Control people and

:43:09.:43:12.

management's decisions. We had an attitude that said the job has got

:43:13.:43:17.

to be done. Everybody followed through. What kind of people are

:43:18.:43:21.

you? If you look at the Apollo programme and Apollo 13, Apollo 11

:43:22.:43:33.

lands on the moon. Apollo 13 had problems. What does it take to be an

:43:34.:43:39.

astronaut? Well, it is interesting, because it is the public what has

:43:40.:43:45.

changed the most. The guys were all committed by Apollo 13, they were

:43:46.:43:50.

not even covering the flight live. And I was at home at the time and I

:43:51.:43:56.

can remember when they announced that Apollo 13 had a problem. I

:43:57.:44:00.

lived across the street from the Mission Control. I remember going

:44:01.:44:04.

over there, listening and I was in Mission Control and I was right

:44:05.:44:08.

behind and I was listening to what was going on. And Jack McConnell

:44:09.:44:19.

Swaggart, who had been on our crew, we had developed the malfunction

:44:20.:44:26.

procedures. I listened and I could tell listening to it, , Jack had

:44:27.:44:36.

done everything you could. I went to bed. I knew they had done everything

:44:37.:44:42.

they could do. We have a lot of questions coming in. Andy asks what

:44:43.:44:47.

stresses did you feel on your body on take off. We got to over 5Gs, but

:44:48.:44:57.

it is the first two minutes where you have the minute stage and you

:44:58.:45:03.

get up to two and a half minutes and you're separated, then it is an easy

:45:04.:45:09.

ride up there. And what did you experience emotionally in space?

:45:10.:45:14.

Well, mostly it was just pleased and satisfaction that we are here now.

:45:15.:45:20.

And we were still committed and determined that if this mission

:45:21.:45:24.

fails, it is not going to fail because of me. We all that had same

:45:25.:45:37.

attitude. The moon has its own difficulties looking through a

:45:38.:45:41.

telescope. Here is a quick guide. We have still got rain here, but

:45:42.:45:46.

look at this glorious view of the moon yesterday from Norfolk.

:45:47.:45:50.

You can see some of the lunar detailed beautifully. It is a really

:45:51.:45:54.

helpful subject if you are starting out because even with a normal

:45:55.:45:57.

telescope you get a great view like this one we got yesterday. We see it

:45:58.:46:05.

because it reflects sunlight, it is by -- sometimes too bright to seek

:46:06.:46:09.

custody but in order to pick up small details you might need one of

:46:10.:46:15.

these, and moon filter, and it cuts down the brightness of the moon so

:46:16.:46:21.

you can see it in more comfort. Last month the Chinese Monday, January

:46:22.:46:28.

three -- the Chinese lander, Chang E three became the first lander to

:46:29.:46:34.

reach the moon in years. You can see it there. There is also a wonderful

:46:35.:46:39.

image of the Jade Rabbit which is the Rover trundling around the

:46:40.:46:44.

surface, you can see the solar panels. Back to the studio.

:46:45.:46:56.

Walt will be with us for Back to Earth after the show. Let's go back

:46:57.:46:59.

to Liz. Thank you. Can I just say, every

:47:00.:47:11.

time we are off air the pilots are doing so well to get us back into

:47:12.:47:15.

the trajectory that can give you the images. Look at that green glow, it

:47:16.:47:21.

is such a treat to be up here are above the cloud cover. Pete and I

:47:22.:47:27.

were discussing how it is ethical to predict aurorae -- difficult. We

:47:28.:47:34.

have got a few tools at our disposal to catch these when they appear. For

:47:35.:47:41.

example, is it possible to know, geographically, where is it going to

:47:42.:47:46.

appear next? Yes, it is, there is a value, the KP index which goes from

:47:47.:47:51.

zero up till nine and gives you an idea how far south the auroral oval

:47:52.:47:55.

will stretch stop for Tromso, this one here, it is probably about KP

:47:56.:47:59.

one. Right over the top of us. You work

:48:00.:48:09.

saying that from the plane. If the numbers go up, eight, nine, because

:48:10.:48:14.

it runs up until nine, that would be an aurora that may be visible from

:48:15.:48:18.

the south of England. And they are rarer. The sun has been really

:48:19.:48:25.

active, I know my KP is perfect for where I am standing, is that it is,

:48:26.:48:33.

I guaranteed an aurora? There are other things that come into play,

:48:34.:48:38.

the magnetic polarity coming from the sun. The earth has magnetic

:48:39.:48:44.

polarity, is the stuff coming from the sun is the Northpoint infield it

:48:45.:48:48.

doesn't connect and not much goes on. But if it has a south pointing

:48:49.:48:56.

field it connects with the Earth and the magic occurs. We have been

:48:57.:49:02.

treated to this beautiful light show, I don't want the plane to

:49:03.:49:08.

land. Hopefully we can feel our boots with this wonderful site. As

:49:09.:49:14.

they have been mentioning any wrong, something very exciting has been

:49:15.:49:20.

happening with our son, an event that has created this coronal mass

:49:21.:49:24.

ejection, potentially tomorrow. What does it mean for us, how can it

:49:25.:49:27.

change our view from this plane tomorrow when we fly? It can

:49:28.:49:34.

completely change it, it is heading to us as a speed

:49:35.:49:43.

which could trigger a really good aurora. It could go the other way,

:49:44.:49:55.

no guarantees. It is still not an exact science, the colours may

:49:56.:49:59.

change from green to red to purple, we will not know until very close to

:50:00.:50:04.

when we take off, but if the stars are aligned, if all of those factors

:50:05.:50:11.

are right we may give you the best light show on earth. We will leave

:50:12.:50:14.

you with these images and we will say good night.

:50:15.:50:20.

You can see dynamically the system changing, different structures

:50:21.:50:30.

appearing. They will get some great pictures as the flight develops.

:50:31.:50:35.

Don't forget, we need your help again this year in our search for

:50:36.:50:42.

distant, hidden galaxies. We have already had 4 million hits. Make

:50:43.:50:48.

sure you visit our website and follow the link. Tomorrow night we

:50:49.:50:56.

will bring you the results. The telescope has turned, it is away

:50:57.:50:59.

from the control room. It has gone to look at the very interesting

:51:00.:51:04.

candidate that somebody out there pointed out and discovered, it do so

:51:05.:51:10.

more physics, to try to characterise it. We are getting real science out

:51:11.:51:15.

of this. The website has changed to get some of the prime candidates, to

:51:16.:51:20.

get a second look. We are asking you to discover distant galaxies but is

:51:21.:51:26.

there any realistic chance we could one day journey to the stars? To

:51:27.:51:30.

reach the speeds needed for interstellar travel we need a

:51:31.:51:35.

starship within engine fit for the job. An almighty rocket engine.

:51:36.:51:43.

Everything you need to know about rockets is contained in one very

:51:44.:51:51.

simple equation. It is known as the rocket equation. It says that the

:51:52.:51:57.

velocity, the speed you want to get it flying, depends on only two

:51:58.:52:04.

things, one is something called the mass ratio, and then the risk this

:52:05.:52:10.

term. The exhaust velocity. The speed you throw the stuff out of the

:52:11.:52:14.

back. That depends, essentially, on one thing, the kind of fuel you use.

:52:15.:52:23.

Today's most advanced rocket powered chemical fuels. The stuff that got

:52:24.:52:32.

us to the moon. This one is being tested for a future mission to Mars.

:52:33.:52:39.

It's exhaust can reach 4.5 thousand mph. That could never get us to the

:52:40.:52:46.

stars. Scientists have long searched for an alternative. In 1945 the

:52:47.:52:59.

power within the atom was unleashed. And soon afterwards a group of

:53:00.:53:04.

scientists joined forces in complete secrecy to work on project Orion, a

:53:05.:53:11.

mission to see if atomic bombs could be used to propel rockets into

:53:12.:53:12.

space. These are some of the unclassified

:53:13.:53:23.

designs from the project, and you see they are really ambitious. The

:53:24.:53:28.

famous physicist Freeman Dyson worked on this project for a while

:53:29.:53:33.

and he published some estimates as to what it would take to launch a

:53:34.:53:42.

100,000 on spacecraft -- torn to 3% the speed of light, the kind speed

:53:43.:53:46.

you would need to send a spacecraft out to the nearby stars. Despite

:53:47.:53:53.

some impressive test launches this starship would need 300,000 atomic

:53:54.:53:58.

bombs to reach that speed. This was never going to be a solution. But

:53:59.:54:05.

there is another substance that has the potential to be an even more

:54:06.:54:11.

powerful rocket fuel. Everything we can see in the universe, every star,

:54:12.:54:17.

every planet, every galaxy you me, this rock, is made of matter, a

:54:18.:54:24.

collection of subatomic particles. We now know all those particles have

:54:25.:54:29.

partners, the same mass, opposite electric charge which are called

:54:30.:54:38.

antiparticles or antimatter. Antimatter has a property that if

:54:39.:54:41.

you bring it into contact with matter they can annihilate into pure

:54:42.:54:48.

energy, although mass is carried away ultimately by a stream of

:54:49.:54:55.

Britain's carrying at the speed of light -- photons. Antimatter

:54:56.:55:03.

provides the ideal rocket fuel. The hard bit is building a fuel tank

:55:04.:55:09.

that can store it. But at one of the largest antimatter factories in the

:55:10.:55:16.

world they are doing just that. Matter and antimatter can exist

:55:17.:55:19.

together, they annihilate. The trick is to keep the antimatter away from

:55:20.:55:25.

the matter. After making antimatter in particle accelerators tanks have

:55:26.:55:31.

been made that can hold the antimatter without it annihilating.

:55:32.:55:38.

We have a vacuum, the gas removed, we make a electromagnetic bottles,

:55:39.:55:42.

forcefield that hold the antimatter away from the matter. In 2010 they

:55:43.:55:48.

succeeded in bottling atoms of antimatter in this type for the

:55:49.:55:57.

first time. -- tank. The concept of antimatter as a rocket fuel is

:55:58.:56:01.

spot-on. It has the highest energy to mass ratio of anything you could

:56:02.:56:08.

imagine. So far they have only managed to hold it for 16 minutes

:56:09.:56:12.

but it means the idea of an antimatter starship is one step

:56:13.:56:17.

closer to reality. Perhaps one day we could be using it to power our

:56:18.:56:27.

way to the stars. Commander Chris Hadfield is with us again. There is

:56:28.:56:32.

a future there, a disappointing view of the future we haven't built

:56:33.:56:36.

starships yet, but we have built the International space Station which

:56:37.:56:41.

you commanded. Are you content, happy, disappointed with where we

:56:42.:56:45.

are in terms of manned or human space exploration? As we have

:56:46.:56:51.

explored the surface of the world it is at that pace, we make some

:56:52.:56:57.

inventions, get as far as we can, test the new area. It is testing

:56:58.:57:03.

what you make the whole alt of and what you make the systems, we have

:57:04.:57:07.

had troubles with the cooling system, it is like sailing ship our

:57:08.:57:13.

brand down within sight of land before you head across the ocean. A

:57:14.:57:17.

lot of it cannot be tested at the surface. It is not a race, we are

:57:18.:57:21.

not in a gigantic curry and we want to make sure we make the inventions

:57:22.:57:27.

as time goes on -- we are not in a gigantic hurry. We will

:57:28.:57:33.

incrementally continue to move as far as the technology can take this.

:57:34.:57:41.

Would it help if we were in a race? As soon as you cross the finish line

:57:42.:57:44.

it is over. The stage we are at right now is incremental expansion.

:57:45.:57:49.

We have taken that first permanent step away from the Earth, the space

:57:50.:57:54.

station is our first permanent international outpost away from the

:57:55.:57:59.

world and we need to learn from that. It is a big structure, not to

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minimise that achievement. You said it is bigger than I thought it was.

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You can work all day and not see other crew members. An amazing

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viewport for the world, a place to look at the universe and with the

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Alpha magnetic spectrometer to collect the subatomic particles of

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the universe, a huge test-bed allowing us to go further. I am so

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glad you got some particle physics in there. Chris and Walt will be

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joining us in a couple of minutes. Tomorrow night we have got news of

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brand-new mission to map the Milky Way. If there is anything you want

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to ask about the Milky Way or galactic travel send in your

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questions now. Walt and Chris will be answering more questions right

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after the show when we are Back to Earth on BBC Two.

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