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Wales U20 v England U20

Ross Harries presents live coverage of Wales u20s v England u20s from Colwyn Bay. Studio guests include former Wales internationals Robert Jones and Richie Rees.


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Good evening and welcome to Scrum V Live, from a sold-out area sparking

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Colwyn Bay. Your Wales versus England England weekend starts here.

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Tonight is all about the next generation. Less than 12 months ago,

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on this very ground, Wales made history. Winning their first ever

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Grand Slam at under 20s level. They began this campaign how they ended

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the last, with victory over Italy. Next, it's England. Their oldest and

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fiercest rivals. And the reigning world champions. And they arrive

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here in confident mood, following a nine try demolition of brands in

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Exeter. With last week's man of the match Max Malins being called up by

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his club, Saracens, meaning this young man starts at ten. If you

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don't recognise the face, you will recognise the name, Jacob Umaga, son

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of Mike. Jason strange has made two changes to his side as they look to

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build on their opening win against Italy. It's been quite a week for

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Ryan Kolbe, a try scorer last Friday, birthday boy on Sunday, and

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his gift from the Scarlets was a development contracts signed on

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Tuesday. Good evening and welcome to Scrum V Live from a rather chilly

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but I'm pleased to say raucous Park area. It's a sell-out crowd, 5500

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here, hopefully to Che Wales to victory over England. My guests join

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me. Initially bringing rugby here was something of an experiment. As

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we can see, it's one that has paid off handsomely. Absolutely, is

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fantastic for the under 20s and North Wales rugby, it's helped

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develop North Wales rugby over the last couple of years. It's been a

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very successful hunting ground for the under 20s. They've won the last

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six, a victory over England last time here as well. It's a happy

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place for them to beat, and they've developed their game here in North

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Wales. Hopefully that will continue this evening. It's becoming a focus

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for the players. The challenge for the coaches, under 20s, every year

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you have a whole new raft of players. Continuity is not something

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easily achieved. No, you are charged with the development of the future

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International. Jason strange has a young group here. Grand Slam

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champions last year. These boy will tell you any Wales versus England

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occasion, you want to win, and as a coach you want to win. A difficult

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one. They will want to win in front of this crowd. It's a very good

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team. We'll talk about England in a minute. 20 of new faces in this

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Welsh under 20s squad, including Ryan Cumbria. We've seen he's a year

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younger than some of his colleagues, but the Iraq -- he announced arrival

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last week. Last week we saw his finishing ability, we saw the

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capability with ball in hand going forward, but today, I'm sure he will

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work defensively against Joe. He's dubbed the full-back appeared

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beautifully, got in the corners, superb, hopefully we'll see more of

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that this evening. That was an acrobatic finish. Congratulations to

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him on the new contracts this week as well. After that opening win in

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Milan, the Wales squad were back in the more familiar surroundings this

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week of their Vale of Glamorgan HQ. Wales star off with a great victory

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and will be looking forward to the rest of these games in these under

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20s Six Nations Championship. Really pleased not just with the results

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from a young group, who have put a lot of people having a first caps,

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but also the performance, calm, assured, we came away with a

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convincing win. It's a good start. One of the games, it was lucky

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enough the ball bounced and I gracefully took it. And I had the

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pace to finish it off. I was really happy with the try. It's a new

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squad, up to 20s level, but we are expecting a lot from individual

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players and some of those showed on Friday and I'm sure we'll see more

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of them as the campaign progresses. We have a big challenge ahead of us.

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It's a great atmosphere, a good crowd, big fans. It was team

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development, as we hope to develop individually and as a team through

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the campaign. That's the main aim. A victory would be a real achievement

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for us. Are you looking forward to going back. I don't think there will

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be any magic wand apart from a lot of hard work and the performance. If

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we do that, hopefully we will get a good result on Friday and beat

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England. One thing that is often the case

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when Wales plays England, some of these Welsh players are smaller in

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stature than that in which opponents tonight. How will they need to

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approach this if Wales are to prevail? Wales need to play to their

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strengths. Their strengths are in their back three and the movement

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they have on the back line. The tack up -- is tackling structure, the pan

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they'd use, the tendency to use the big forwards and use them as decoy

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runners. They created a lot of opportunities but the execution

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wasn't there. If they are to beat this England team, they must pick

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the right decision at the right time. We've seen the short run is

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going but the spaces out the back that the Italian forwards are biting

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in on and if they can create those opportunities they have to be able

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to finish as they did, the fantastic try and finish here. Wales to put

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wits on the ball this evening, England, as English teams like to

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do, will probably truck it up a bit and with Zac burst -- with Zach

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Mercer they have the ultimate ball-carrier. He's the ultimate

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pedigree, at Bath, he's all action. He's good in attacking, his ball

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carrying, good tackler, good over the ball, he can play six, seven or

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eight. These are regular in the Bath first team. He's probably playing up

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a level, expect him to have a big involvement. He looks terrifying

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with ball in hand. Someone Wales will have to contain tonight. It's a

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sell-out. 5500 fans. There no spare ticket for Phil Steele. He's lurking

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in the tunnel. Thanks very much, I should have a

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string of garlic around my neck because this is the England changing

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room. They will make the long winding way down through the guard

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of honour in front of the 5500. I've been talking to Dean Ryan, involves

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with the development of England rugby. He says we can expect this

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England team to move it. Look out for the back three, he says. Any

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loose ball kicked by Wales will be utilised by the back three. Let's

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look for the England back division and particularly the back three.

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There is a bit of England support here. Probably coming from the North

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of England, all part of the atmosphere. Back to you.

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Thank you, the teams are on their way out, as you have been

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describing. We have time for a quick prediction. You mentioned Wales'

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record on the home ground. Can they continue with a victory? England

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will be buoyant after last week, but Wales have made this a bit of a

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fortress and we surprised England last year. I'd like to think we can

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do the same and hopefully a good omen for tomorrow's big

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international in Cardiff. What a start that would be for the weekend.

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Wales have won their last eight under 20s games in a row in the Six

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Nations. England's unbeaten in their last six in all competitions,

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including that World Cup final victory. These two teams are used to

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winning. Who will prevail tonight? Richie Rees, Sean Holley, joining

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Gareth Charles for the commentary. COMMENTATOR:

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Thanks very much. It's a long walk down from the changing rooms. But

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it's one that has been successfully made by captains wearing red over

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the last season in particular. It's always incredibly well supported

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here. Will Jones has the honour of making his way through the

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youngsters, who have their moment as well. There really is a family local

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atmosphere about proceedings at area spark when the under 20s are in

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town. The choir has been singing beforehand. The crowd being whipped

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up into a frenzy. As usual, a full house, ready to cheer on the current

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Six Nations champions, against the current world champions. After

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convincing wins for both of them last week, at huge game this

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evening. And, of course, before the anthems this evening, there is a sad

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moment, just to remember, as they will be before every game this

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current weekend, the loss this week of one of the best scrum-halves ever

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to play this great game of ours, aged just 45, with motor neurone

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disease disease. There will be a minute's silence for the great

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Springbok, a brave player on the field and brave in life as well.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please join us for the singing of the national

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anthems. # Mae hen wlad fy nhadau

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yn annwyl i mi # Gwlad beirdd a chantorion,

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enwogion o fri # Ei gwrol ryfelwyr,

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gwladgarwyr tra mad CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Passionate singing of the anthem from both on and off the field, just

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two changes in the Welsh line-up from the victory in Italy. Both

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second row is making that under 20 debut. The Osprey flanker Will Jones

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is the captain. Keirin Williams rounded off the victory.

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Just one new face in English pack, Justin Clegg, number eight, Zach

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Mercer, and the captain Ben Earl a try scorer against France last week.

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The famous rugby name at outside-half, Jacob Umaga, the other

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change behind is on the wing, the rest of the three quarters all

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scored last week. James Grayson, son of Paul Grayson,

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another famous name on the English bench. Frank Murphy of Ireland, the

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man in charge this evening. As Wales look to continue in winning ways

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here. This a stern test for them against an equally young English

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team. A team that scored nine tries and 50 points at Sandy Park Exeter,

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against France last week. Good evening, alongside me, ... Good

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evening, a fresh evening in North Wales but nevertheless a great night

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for rugby. Lots of young talent on show. Two different teams, really.

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Off the back of a fabulous win last week, England, supremely confident.

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Ciaran Williams, the first burst through.

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Straight through those Calum Bradbury. Really eating up the

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ground. That's a great tackle by Tom Parton, and it needed to be, from

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the English full-back. A little slip picked up by Ben Jones, out it goes

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to Conbeer. Bradbury, on his debut, that was an excellent burst onto the

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first penalty follows. The co-forwards, congratulations to the

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Blues lock. Something I reckon the coaches might have picked out in the

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training week. A real flat English line-out defence. Nobody behind in a

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pick and go by second row column Bradbury. See how England spread the

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field, nine is way, way deep in the back field, not behind the rock.

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Well exploited. Exactly that, we've touched pre-game that Wales want to

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try to play out the back and they did try to play the back. The

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accuracy probably was off but they have the penalty and the chants of

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the three points in the first points of the game. Five from six

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successful kicks for Ben Jones last week, for his 12 points.

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That's an excellent start for the Welsh team as they go ahead by 3-0.

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Lovely strike by the young outside-half. That will settle the

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nerves, give them a little bit of confidence. A lot of been spoken

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about some of these big players the England have but a fine start by the

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Welshman. Jacob Umaga with the restart. Max

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Malins scored 24 points for the English team last week, of the 59.

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Replaced by Umaga this week. You notice the English players

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really waiting for that kicking, four players back. Watch out for

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this fellow, number eight Zach Mercer.

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Harry Randall, looking to spread it wide, right, brought down by

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Nicholas. Randall, pushing the Welsh team back. He has bounced up, away

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from Ben Jones, leaves plenty of time to get clearance kick in. He

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was caught in two minds. He's reluctant to get into the ball. It's

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pretty good underfoot from the start of the game. The bounce of the ball

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certainly suggests that. But comes the English defence

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quickly, Ben Jones trying to get behind them but it's a shade too

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strong. A couple of speculative kicks from both teams there. You

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have to say that the Wales defence, strong and resolute here, well read

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by the winger whom you know very well. Something we can expect from

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the Welsh half-backs today is a lot of big kicking game. We can expect

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them to put a little bit of pressure on the wings for England, because

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they are not very comfortable under the high balls. Hopefully we will

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see that this evening. Easy for you to say those two names! There is one

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of them. A mistake into the high ball, putting England under pressure

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on their own try line. He can run, if you get the chance. Great tactics

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from Wales as Richie Rees calls. There's a little bit of wind,

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exactly where they want England now. They don't want a fourth penalty

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now, Wales, no silly penalties, and they can get a line-out -- they

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don't want to force a penalty. A scrum-half educated in a

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comprehensive in Wales. He should have been playing for Wales. He

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looks comfortable under it, then at the last minute the technique wasn't

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quite there. As you rightly say, he can run this and Wales can put him

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under pressure if they get turnovers. Born in Fiji Kim came to

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England when he was three. Spent spells in Brunei and Germany. His

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dad was in the Army. Good play to get well over the gain line from

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there. Conbeer, plenty of white shirts

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around him. We saw the two props with plenty of

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ball in hand last week in Milan. Started in the same vein this

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evening. They looked very well-organised, the English defence.

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In good shape. They are all on their feet, not really competing in the

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tackle area. Wales certainly keeping plenty of ball early on. Up comes

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Will Talbot Davis from full-back. They are making little headway at

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the moment. Once again, the bust. Nicholas going

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for the outside, the slips through the tackle. You will notice England

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are not competing for any ball were just happy to have a big white line

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absorbing all of these phases. This is good from Wales, very

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patient play. They are trying to force England to give away a

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penalty. Go through the phases, build a bit of structure and come

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away with a few errors as possible. Great work on the floor. Mercer

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presenting it back beautifully and on the run ghost Tom Curry. Randall

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to Mercer again. A little 1-2 between the scrum-half. Butler with

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a grubber kick through. Albert Davis bounces off him so. We saw last week

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that Talbot Davis is very willing to join in any counter possible. Well,

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again, nobody claiming the loose ball until Mercer does so. They are

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finding a lot of space, a lot of grass, Wales with their kicking

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game. Umaga, juggled by Isiekwe. You get the feeling of Wales can keep

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their discipline. There you go. He's robbed. Just spilled forward.

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As we expected, both teams looking to attack. Wales are going to have

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to keep their wits about them and keep their patients, because this

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defence looks very organised indeed. Very organised, he got off his man,

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focused on the rug. That's all some of these players need is that space.

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But tactically, very astute, both teams at the moment. England in

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defence chose the want to steal by Zach Mercer and Wales in attack, go

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through the phases. When it's not needed, a nice kick coming in from

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the nine. They are setting the structure really well. They are

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going through a few phases. It's just the winner of this game is

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those who create the least amount of error in their game. Wales have

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already created an opportunity, it's just turning the ball over at the

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opportunities. Sean Moore, the Pontypridd lock, who got... Early

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on. Nice to see there are three scrum-halves on the field at the

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moment. Yes, Murphy, ex Connacht and Leicester scrum-half, he's lost a

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bit of weight actually since his playing days. Not a bad player to be

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fair. Looking better than it is playing days. Looking sharp, he's

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done his hair as well. Unbelievable. Tom Parton, forced back into the 22.

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They are having a lot of success with the kicking game, aren't they?

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A lovely kick, Ben Jones collects and scores. That's a great try from

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Wales. Superbly taken. Again, it's down to the kicking game, this time

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a poor return from England but great, great awareness, and Ben

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Jones with a super finish. Well, we talked about the tactical kicking

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game. Rays have -- Wales have tried it down this left-hand corner as we

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looked a few times. They put Barton under pressure, it paid off, and the

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vision here, you can see the space. The full-back followed his own

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kicker and a very clever kick into space. That's what you get if you

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follow up. The Welsh boys, they are ecstatic. A brilliant kick from the

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Welsh but Ben Jones spotted the space and he told him to put the

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tick there. A lovely finish in the corner by Ben Jones. A good start so

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far from Wales. A dive like Conbeer, more room than in Italy last week.

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That was a great finish. At the risk of repeating myself, you know how I

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feel about conversions. They might only be worth two. Trust me, for

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coaches, they are massive. Oh, well, that was a brilliant,

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brilliant... So he has all Wales' points so far. We see it again,

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great vision. The execution is great. Lots of success behind this

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right wing in the first 11 minutes of the game from Wales.

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Very confident start from the Welsh boys.

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Well, that's a shock to the system. Zebre leading by 20 -- leading by

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10-0 against the Ospreys. I thought the Ospreys would win at a canter.

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But it's early yet, of course. Check the graphics, are they the right way

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round? I did! Couldn't believe my eyes. It's good game from Wales,

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winning this kicking battle in the opening 12 minutes of the game and

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England are failing to take any decent ball and get a new return

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back within their kicking game. So again, a poor kick. It landed short.

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Wales have taken it and England have given a penalty weight at the

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breakdown and allowed Wales the chance of another three points. Vera

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-- they are reacting quicker. You have to credit the players. This is

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clearly a strategy they have gone in with, the players are executing the

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strategy. Here the player who has confidence at the moment. They are

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having real success at the moment, they need to keep going at least for

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the next ten or 12 minutes, nearly 13 minutes into the game and a of

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success where all their points are coming from. It's when I used to

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coach you and you used to execute the game plan. Executes...

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Are better looking strike, but it didn't have legs. The other one

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judged the wind and conditions perfectly, so it remains at 10-0,

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four Wales. Wales could try to go left off this.

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Talbot Davis, a big lump, isn't it? He's also tactically very good. He's

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in the right place at the right time. Ciaran Williams. Is a bit of

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naivete. You get hit with the younger players. Even though they've

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entered the 22 and it looked like a good ball carrier, it's a turnover

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possession, getting the ball back to England, could have built some more

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pressure on the defence there. He looks like the go to guy. Yes,

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you get the feeling if he carries on like this, he will grab it by the

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scruff. There is another carry from the back number eight. Harry

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Randall. The pass put pressure on Talbot-Davies. The forwards are good

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enough though to protect it. Dane Blacker has his winger on the floor

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so someone else will have to chase this. And guess who is back there

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again. He is one who is taking charge, as far as England goes,

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defensively certainly. It is picked up by Cokanasiga. It is ripped

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clear. A good carry by Kieran Williams. Get it back on the front

:31:44.:31:46.

foot. Wales happy to go to this kicking game. They are putting them

:31:47.:31:57.

under pressure. The two wingers combining defensively for England.

:31:58.:32:01.

Will Jones goes for the steel. England get it back down the ground.

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Good pressure on Harry Randall. And the ball comes clear. Sienawski

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picks up and Wales are back on the front foot. Ellis Shipp.

:32:11.:32:22.

England lying on, penalty conceded. It should be a comfortable three

:32:23.:32:30.

points. And where does it come from? Again, the kicking game down to this

:32:31.:32:33.

corner. The right winger was out of position. Ibitoye got caught. And

:32:34.:32:42.

Wales are awarded with another shot at goal. You cannot afford from the

:32:43.:32:49.

following breakdowns or set piece to give cheap, nasty penalties away

:32:50.:32:53.

about is exactly what Wales are doing at the moment. They are

:32:54.:32:58.

allowing England to the ball. He strips him in contact and Wales are

:32:59.:33:05.

all over the ball. They are playing this game plan to an absolute peach

:33:06.:33:09.

at the moment. They are holding onto the ball and getting the penalties

:33:10.:33:10.

and hopefully getting the points. Successful kick from Ben Jones.

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Wales extend their lead 13-0. A confident start from the Welsh

:33:36.:33:39.

youngsters. He does not look like missing at the moment. He did miss

:33:40.:33:42.

one but it was from a long way out. It is deserved reward for an

:33:43.:33:45.

excellent tactical kicking game from his home team.

:33:46.:34:08.

They don't look happy. They know they are under pressure. It has

:34:09.:34:13.

probably come as a little bit of a surprise to them. They have not been

:34:14.:34:19.

tested like this before and if Wales can just consolidate this set piece

:34:20.:34:23.

which has been good so far, don't allow England into the game. This is

:34:24.:34:29.

key for Wales. They have to hold their own on England ball in this

:34:30.:34:38.

set piece. As long as they can hold their settees, stay strong and then

:34:39.:34:41.

just go for a little bit of territory. Pressure but Zach Mercer

:34:42.:34:49.

looks dangerous. Good play to Harry Randall. Excellent play by the

:34:50.:34:55.

number eight. He is there again. A steel by Sienawski but offside.

:34:56.:35:01.

Frank Murphy saying the red had formed already on top of Sienawski

:35:02.:35:06.

as he has made the tackle. It is unfortunate for Wales but it is a

:35:07.:35:10.

decision Sienawski has to make a bad breakdown, whether he looks to go

:35:11.:35:15.

for the ball, maybe he should have backed out of that. Wales have been

:35:16.:35:18.

on the front foot for the majority of this 20 minute so far. Zach

:35:19.:35:25.

Mercer linking with his scrum-half. What the tackler doesn't do is he

:35:26.:35:29.

doesn't realise that the ruck has been formed. The referee will be

:35:30.:35:32.

telling him he has been beaten by the rock. A well used term for

:35:33.:35:42.

flankers. He was warming up in his vest. And last week in the rain in

:35:43.:35:50.

Italy. Fair play to him. No time wasted by Jacob Umaga and England

:35:51.:35:55.

with their first points of the evening. It was a good run from

:35:56.:36:04.

Harry Randall off the scrum. That put England on the board. Wales need

:36:05.:36:08.

to find some position from this restart. Wales do not need to force

:36:09.:36:14.

it at the moment. It is the first time England have been Amat

:36:15.:36:18.

attacking zone. One penalty and they have conceded the three points.

:36:19.:36:27.

Ibitoye is safely underneath it. Harry Randall bides his time. Good

:36:28.:36:32.

hand time on that kick. Kisses chases every opportunity.

:36:33.:36:39.

Talbot-Davies not quite gathering safely. It is England ball.

:36:40.:36:51.

This looks like a forced skill pass. The ten is not quite attached to his

:36:52.:36:59.

forwards. They have looked a little bit disjointed. Wales have got to

:37:00.:37:02.

take advantage of this. As long as this continues interestingly enough,

:37:03.:37:07.

that went straight to a bid to you, it is obviously something they have

:37:08.:37:10.

singled out and they will continue going there until it stops working.

:37:11.:37:15.

The scrum has been good to start. Chris Horseman seems to be doing a

:37:16.:37:18.

good job. Great attacking position. The ten metre line, midfield. You

:37:19.:37:26.

would fancy and eight, nine. Prime attacking opportunity. When he

:37:27.:37:32.

dropped back into the pocket or will he defend the right hand side of the

:37:33.:37:39.

scrum? Ben Jones is sat behind that he can decide which side to go. A

:37:40.:37:50.

loose pass by Dane Blacker land unfortunately for Wales, they cannot

:37:51.:37:55.

develop from that position. The forwards coach is with Phil. How

:37:56.:38:00.

pleasing are these tactics? They seem to be working well? The

:38:01.:38:04.

half-backs are controlling the game well but the kick is only as good as

:38:05.:38:09.

the chase. The back three IRA threat but we have got to manage them into

:38:10.:38:13.

those corners. The boys are doing it well so far. More of this until

:38:14.:38:20.

half-time. Yes, the wind is a factor but at the moment, the half-backs

:38:21.:38:23.

are executing the game plan and it is going well. That is a half decent

:38:24.:38:31.

driving maul from England. English teams get a Smith of this and you

:38:32.:38:35.

have got wingers in there as well. We were told to expect a lot of open

:38:36.:38:43.

play from England but they may change their tactics having seen

:38:44.:38:47.

that. With the school, they probably got a message on from the touchline.

:38:48.:38:57.

-- score. Back for the original penalty. I think it was Will Jones

:38:58.:39:02.

going in the side of our driving layup. They have conceded 20 metres

:39:03.:39:07.

already from driving line-out and then Jones gives the penalty away.

:39:08.:39:11.

If you are going to give the penalty away, give it away at source, 20

:39:12.:39:17.

metres further upfield. Wales have to batten down the hatches and shut

:39:18.:39:22.

England out. Yes, it is a silly penalty. It is a cynical penalty as

:39:23.:39:26.

well. We has to be very careful in front of the referee. He should know

:39:27.:39:31.

better than that. With that great driving maul, Umaga decides to go

:39:32.:39:40.

for the corner. Yes, the English coaches, particularly forwards

:39:41.:39:45.

coach, will be well pleased that last line up. But not with that one.

:39:46.:39:51.

It is back to Zach Mercer somehow. Out of the back door but not taken

:39:52.:39:56.

by Butler. It is not done in the process. I thought Wales had stolen

:39:57.:40:01.

the line-out but somehow Zach Mercer got his hands on it and again got

:40:02.:40:09.

England on the front foot. It was a poor throw in all honesty but there

:40:10.:40:13.

he is again. He is the action man. I am not so sure you need that. Have a

:40:14.:40:18.

word with him at half-time about that one. Take it another phase and

:40:19.:40:30.

Wales are in trouble. 19 years old. He is one eighth Maori. Yes, his

:40:31.:40:33.

father played rugby league for New Zealand. Also coached Glasgow.

:40:34.:40:51.

Dane Blacker is saying, I had him anyway, it is all right. He is quite

:40:52.:41:01.

relieved the whistle went. My man. So many options available here. It

:41:02.:41:08.

is a really great place to attack from. Big blindside as we look on

:41:09.:41:12.

your screens to the left. Zach Mercer has the ability to pass off

:41:13.:41:16.

the base himself. Look at the formation behind the scrum. That

:41:17.:41:23.

creates a block play with the first back on the left or right side.

:41:24.:41:28.

Difficult to discern. Excellent position for England. Down go the

:41:29.:41:30.

front rows. Interesting setup will struggle

:41:31.:41:49.

defensively. They have also matched them with two in behind.

:41:50.:42:02.

Zach Mercer. Harry Randall. Straightout to Will Butler. Back to

:42:03.:42:21.

Zach Mercer once again. The centre, all England's attacks... Randall

:42:22.:42:31.

fires it out. Umaga almost put Ollie Dawe in the gap. Anybody other than

:42:32.:42:39.

a loosehead there, you fancy they would get through. Wales are holding

:42:40.:42:40.

firm. Randall. Sets up another English

:42:41.:42:54.

attack. But are under pressure. Did well to gather at the second time.

:42:55.:42:57.

-- Butler. Joseph Morris, the English tight

:42:58.:43:13.

head. Umaga. This time, under no pressure, England cough it up and it

:43:14.:43:15.

is just as well for Wales because that was looking dangerous. They are

:43:16.:43:19.

gradually getting themselves into the game and it is that man, Zach

:43:20.:43:24.

Mercer, the amount of calories he has had already. They are creeping

:43:25.:43:28.

back into the game. Just took his eye off the ball. Two guys on the

:43:29.:43:35.

outside. He spotted Jared Rosser in his eye line. As he has done that,

:43:36.:43:39.

he has taken his eyes off the ball and fortunately for Wales, just

:43:40.:43:47.

conceded the knock-on. A few phases of great defence from Wales. We talk

:43:48.:43:52.

about that scrum position and Wales defended it very well. It was poorly

:43:53.:43:57.

executed by England. Yes, we touched on it pre-game on the side of the

:43:58.:44:06.

field. Umaga has come in and he hasn't looked particularly

:44:07.:44:09.

comfortable. Last year, he was playing a lot at 12. It is a lot

:44:10.:44:18.

different playing at ten. You have got to look to get your hands on the

:44:19.:44:21.

ball a little bit more often than he has and challenge that gain line. A

:44:22.:44:27.

couple of the Welsh boys struggling at the moment. Callum Bradbury took

:44:28.:44:33.

a bump to the shoulder. And Assiratti had a dead leg, a bit

:44:34.:44:38.

similar to George North last week, by the look of it. Does that mean he

:44:39.:44:48.

will go on to score a 60 metre try? Well, some of these props can run. A

:44:49.:44:54.

big test for him now into this very crucial scrum.

:44:55.:45:05.

Wales holding the scrum very well indeed. Very well indeed, as England

:45:06.:45:14.

try to get the shove on. And that means a lot to that pack. Frank

:45:15.:45:25.

Murphy does not like the celebrations. Just watch this now,

:45:26.:45:29.

they are square. At this moment, you can see them... The tight head and

:45:30.:45:35.

the hooker come away and that is enough. Ollie Dawe not happy. He

:45:36.:45:43.

felt that Wales walked across. They were not scrummaging squarer and

:45:44.:45:48.

straight. The referee out of shot was talking to the Welsh players

:45:49.:45:52.

about celebrating winning a penalty and I totally concur with him. We do

:45:53.:45:55.

not want to see any of that style of behaviour at any level. You do see

:45:56.:46:00.

it with some of the Premiership teams, Saracens introduced it. I

:46:01.:46:10.

tell you what, we saw it ad nauseam with Itoji last week. It is a

:46:11.:46:15.

culture thing. The boys need to accept that there is a level that is

:46:16.:46:19.

acceptable and they do not want to overstep that Mark and concentrate

:46:20.:46:25.

on the rugby. Sienawski won the line-out but he lost it when he came

:46:26.:46:33.

down. It is stolen. Wales need some time with ball in hand because after

:46:34.:46:37.

the early start, it is all England at the moment. They are keeping

:46:38.:46:43.

their shape. There is a bit of fruit on the outside. They are working

:46:44.:46:47.

hard at the moment. Ioan Nicholas calling for more cover on the

:46:48.:46:58.

outside. They will have to be wary of the way the ball bounces. A very

:46:59.:47:05.

high static vertical bars. A very good kick. You can see Talbot-Davies

:47:06.:47:09.

coming across. Tactically he is very good and the covers the ground and

:47:10.:47:15.

he reads the body positions of the opposing nine and ten to see where

:47:16.:47:20.

they will kick. Unfortunately for Wales, the ball bounced straight

:47:21.:47:24.

into touch. Bradbury. Good line-out work. The second rows have done

:47:25.:47:31.

well. They have come in and they are doing well. Having a good game in

:47:32.:47:35.

the set piece and in the ball carry. Here we go again. Taken safely this

:47:36.:47:38.

time by Cokanasiga. The English skipper. Baseload that

:47:39.:47:59.

ball down very well, Wales. Umaga finds a bit of space but cannot

:48:00.:48:03.

gather. Ashley Beck has scored for the Ospreys and they are back within

:48:04.:48:12.

three. And it is half-time. Never easy to go to Italy, no matter what

:48:13.:48:18.

time of year. Fancies a run, does big Joe and beating men easily. Gets

:48:19.:48:28.

the offload. One of the Welsh boys still down after his attempt at a

:48:29.:48:33.

tackle. Umaga. Lovely pass out of the back door and that is Butler in

:48:34.:48:36.

a bit of space. Looking for the inside ball to his partner, Max

:48:37.:48:45.

Wright. Umaga again to Morris. England picking up the pace now.

:48:46.:48:52.

Good hands again by Butler. Clearing away from the tackle. Getting the

:48:53.:48:57.

ball away. Zach Mercer with the straight drive on once again.

:48:58.:49:02.

Sienawski with the tackle. Penalty given away by Wales. Quickly taken

:49:03.:49:09.

by Randall and they don't need advantage because Harry Randall the

:49:10.:49:14.

former Wales under 16 captain has got England's first try. That

:49:15.:49:18.

passage of play tells you all about England and some of the messages the

:49:19.:49:22.

coaches down in front of us are getting on. They started playing

:49:23.:49:27.

short side, they have broken Wales down on the outside and as we said

:49:28.:49:31.

earlier, Will Jones needs to be very careful with some of the silly

:49:32.:49:36.

penalties he is giving away. Harry Randall, a young man who played for

:49:37.:49:40.

Wales at under 16 level, he sneaks over. Yes, it was the first time

:49:41.:49:47.

they have put a poor kick in, and it all started with Ben Jones looking

:49:48.:49:52.

for that long left footed kick and it landed straight into the hands of

:49:53.:49:59.

the Englishman. Another silly penalty from Will Jones, coming in

:50:00.:50:02.

the side and as all number nine is he already has his hands on the ball

:50:03.:50:09.

when the referee calls penalty and the defence cannot touch him. He has

:50:10.:50:15.

dived over for an easy five points. Quickly taken by Randall and get the

:50:16.:50:20.

rewards. Jacob Umaga adds the extras and England are right back in it.

:50:21.:50:24.

Game on. Eight minutes before half-time, it is a real close one

:50:25.:50:29.

now. Zach Mercer started the game very well. The other players have

:50:30.:50:32.

got back into it now and they are pulling the strings at nine, Harry

:50:33.:50:34.

Randall. Good carry. Umaga, and England are

:50:35.:50:59.

full of running now. Lovely ball to Zach Mercer once again. Shows and

:51:00.:51:04.

then gets the as to Cokanasiga. Bounces off tacklers. England have

:51:05.:51:09.

picked up the pace and they have plenty of men going left. He gets

:51:10.:51:16.

the past two Mullins and he get it away to Umaga and the tries comes to

:51:17.:51:20.

Max Wright and that is a brilliant, brilliant score by England. Yes,

:51:21.:51:27.

quite superb from England. Virtually length of the field. Great

:51:28.:51:31.

discipline. Off-loading, in control of the ball through contact. Some

:51:32.:51:36.

weak tackling by Wales, you have to say. The centres are really getting

:51:37.:51:41.

into the game. And this man, Zach Mercer, he has been a cut above the

:51:42.:51:47.

rest. Cokanasiga gets his hands on the ball and he is shrugging the

:51:48.:51:54.

tacklers off. I thought for a moment, Isiekwe may have taken the

:51:55.:51:57.

wrong option. But there are plenty of players there and in the end it

:51:58.:52:04.

was easy for Max Wright. It is very noticeable the off-loading through

:52:05.:52:06.

contact, in control of themselves, excellent play from England and that

:52:07.:52:10.

is more like what we saw against France last week. Two more points

:52:11.:52:22.

for Umaga. And suddenly, very suddenly, England have gone into the

:52:23.:52:26.

lead. All of a sudden, Umaga is getting into the game. Some good

:52:27.:52:30.

distribution. Following up, looking for another touch. He ships it onto

:52:31.:52:36.

Max Wright and that is a superb team score. Excellent rugby, pace and

:52:37.:52:47.

precision and power. And Max Wright is getting more and more in the

:52:48.:52:53.

game. Yeah, a couple of clean line breaks last week against France and

:52:54.:52:56.

he is a big unit and all of a sudden, England's best players are

:52:57.:53:00.

getting their hands on the ball. Yes, the Yorkshire Kearney the

:53:01.:53:01.

Centre. That changes the team talk at

:53:02.:53:11.

half-time. Clearly wales don't want to concede any more this half. Can

:53:12.:53:16.

they get some field position and builds pressure and maybe a penalty?

:53:17.:53:21.

Sienawski, again the line-out target. This time they get it out as

:53:22.:53:26.

far as Kieran Williams. Yes, just a bit overcomplicated. No

:53:27.:53:47.

conviction from Wales. I felt they needed to be direct there and get

:53:48.:53:50.

the field position again. Safety in numbers. Maybe a pick and go, around

:53:51.:53:55.

the corner, put some pressure on England to possibly concede a

:53:56.:54:02.

penalty before half-time. But there is the Neva T. These are young

:54:03.:54:04.

players and they will learn. Zach Mercer, brought down this time

:54:05.:54:34.

by Will Jones. Umaga. Max Wright, will Butler. The two centres

:54:35.:54:38.

combining well. Talbot-Davies gets the clearance kick in. Some of the

:54:39.:54:44.

Welsh tackling is looking a little bit weak and weary now towards the

:54:45.:54:52.

end of this half. Another one down. There is Mike Umaga. Born in

:54:53.:55:00.

Halifax, Jacob, after he play with Michael came over to coach and play

:55:01.:55:09.

rugby league. And a coach himself. A coach around the Midlands area. You

:55:10.:55:14.

do not want to give this fella too much time and space. He weighs the

:55:15.:55:22.

same as one of the Welsh second roast tonight. Zach Mercer is giving

:55:23.:55:28.

them confidence. You can see he plays at a much higher level. They

:55:29.:55:32.

are in control of themselves when they give him the ball. Great play.

:55:33.:55:37.

He is in everything. Carried 19 times against France. He has carried

:55:38.:55:44.

here that this half. They have just grown in confidence, haven't they?

:55:45.:55:52.

Still only 19 years old. As you were saying earlier, his appearances for

:55:53.:55:59.

Bath, he has had ten game for them this year and at the top level, when

:56:00.:56:03.

you come back down to play at this level then, it is a different ball

:56:04.:56:10.

game. Guy Mercer, his namesake, was named captain at the start of the

:56:11.:56:13.

season and he's keeping him out of the side. That is how good he is.

:56:14.:56:20.

Sienawski is leading the field. And Aled Ward of the Blues is on instead

:56:21.:56:27.

of him. A lot of bruising this under 20s said. But agree upfront. --

:56:28.:56:30.

Blues. Wales won't want to concede again in

:56:31.:56:43.

the remaining two and a half minutes. Clegg drives on. They are

:56:44.:56:50.

going to need to shows and discipline. They have been under the

:56:51.:56:54.

cosh and they need to go into the half at least at 13-17. Again, Zach

:56:55.:57:03.

Mercer gets them on the front foot. Maybe he should have held onto it.

:57:04.:57:08.

It is Ellis Shipp who is there for Wales. They need to clear and they

:57:09.:57:13.

need to clear well from here, do Wales. They do not want to be giving

:57:14.:57:25.

a line-out anywhere near the 22. Now then, on the evidence of what we saw

:57:26.:57:28.

earlier, this could be testing for Wales. I reckon so. We know what is

:57:29.:57:36.

coming here. Discipline is so important. It looks like there is

:57:37.:57:38.

enough time for them to go, should Wales give another week -- another

:57:39.:57:44.

penalty away here. There is the flanker at scrum-half. But it is a

:57:45.:57:49.

double bluff. It is a short ball to battle around here is over. England

:57:50.:57:54.

have a third just before half-time. And that is good thinking.

:57:55.:57:59.

Everybody, commentary team, players, the lot, was expecting the drive

:58:00.:58:03.

with the flanker standing at scrum-half but no, a quick, short

:58:04.:58:08.

ball and will Butler makes it three. This is a superbly mature call.

:58:09.:58:14.

Shape up for a drive. It is a little pull-out play, through comes the

:58:15.:58:18.

centre, Butler, who has been very influential in the last ten minutes

:58:19.:58:21.

and it is a sucker punch for Wales. We have talked about the need to

:58:22.:58:25.

just secure the last couple of minutes of the half and go in just

:58:26.:58:29.

narrowly down after such a good start but England have the bit

:58:30.:58:32.

between their teeth and they are going for the throw.

:58:33.:58:47.

Umaga has found his kicking boots and England have come good. Three

:58:48.:58:54.

tries in the final ten minutes of the half. And even though there will

:58:55.:58:58.

be time for a restart, they will be extremely happy with the way things

:58:59.:59:04.

have developed. Dean Ryan has just come and stood right in front of me.

:59:05.:59:09.

I will not see it. He is not sitting down. I will not argue with him

:59:10.:59:11.

mine. -- mind. Clegg. Driven on by... It has been

:59:12.:59:35.

lost, it went backwards. England have stolen it. Well, it all started

:59:36.:59:44.

so well for Wales. That speculative try from Ben Jones and his kicking

:59:45.:59:50.

gave them a very, very good start but England finished so strongly,

:59:51.:59:56.

Randall got them under way, three tries in the final ten minutes and

:59:57.:00:00.

now there is a real job to be done in the second half. England lead at

:00:01.:00:03.

half-time. Do we have to give England credit

:00:04.:00:17.

for coming back, or is it something Wales stopped doing question Mark

:00:18.:00:20.

Wii U if they gave them momentum they were dangerous broken field

:00:21.:00:24.

runners. They have a good off-loading game as well. You have

:00:25.:00:29.

to give them credit for some of the stuff they stuck together there, but

:00:30.:00:34.

a disappointing second half. -- disappointing first half. You have

:00:35.:00:39.

to change things, and in the conditions, the wind? We have to

:00:40.:00:43.

carry more, start winning. If we can get momentum back in our game, play

:00:44.:00:48.

in the right areas, hopefully we can do some damage. But we know we will

:00:49.:00:53.

have to be better than what we were in the last bit. Good luck to the

:00:54.:01:00.

boys. Thank you very much. . It was the

:01:01.:01:00.

in the last bit. Good luck to the boys. Thank you very much. . It was

:01:01.:01:02.

the brightest of starts for Wales. Ben Jones knocking over an early

:01:03.:01:05.

penalty and finishing this try with aplomb. After Wales spent a good

:01:06.:01:10.

first 12 or 15 minutes really targeting the England back three

:01:11.:01:15.

with the kicking game. Harry Randall got back in it and then a

:01:16.:01:19.

beautifully worked try, Jacob Umaga with the pasta Max Wright. Then on

:01:20.:01:23.

the stroke of half-time, England duping everyone. We expected the

:01:24.:01:27.

driving line-out, but it was the other centre who crashed over from

:01:28.:01:30.

short range, will Butler, with the final score of the half. Wales after

:01:31.:01:35.

starting so brightly now find themselves 24-13 down, facing

:01:36.:01:41.

something of an uphill struggle. A real case of a momentum swing in the

:01:42.:01:46.

opening half. Absolutely, Wales started off fantastically well.

:01:47.:01:49.

There was a spring in their step. I think they had done their homework

:01:50.:01:54.

on England, putting pressure on the back three with a great kicking

:01:55.:01:57.

game. Ultimately you are talking about big men and big men taking the

:01:58.:02:01.

stage and making things happen. Zach Mercer, England have that man, he's

:02:02.:02:05.

got England on the front foot. As a result the ball carrying ability of

:02:06.:02:08.

England came through. To what extent did you think the opening salvo, the

:02:09.:02:13.

home crowd and Wales being inspired by being here and hearing the

:02:14.:02:18.

anthems and England taking the sting out of that now? It was a tale of

:02:19.:02:23.

two 20 minutes. Wales controlled that 20 minutes, controlled

:02:24.:02:27.

possession, but Bryan Lewis, the forwards coach for Wales, touched on

:02:28.:02:31.

it. They started losing the gain line and as soon as you start losing

:02:32.:02:35.

the gain line against sides with physicality and individuality --

:02:36.:02:40.

individual brilliance, getting their hands on the ball quickly and that

:02:41.:02:45.

is enabled them to get their hands through contact and off-loading pass

:02:46.:02:51.

contacts. The England back coming into the game more in the second

:02:52.:02:53.

quarter but they looked vulnerable initially. Wales clearly targeting

:02:54.:02:57.

them with a kicking game, which led to the Ben Jones try. That's right,

:02:58.:03:03.

Wales had the wind advantage. It was a great kicking game by Wales.

:03:04.:03:08.

Ultimately put pressure on them. It wasn't just the ability or the good

:03:09.:03:13.

kicking of the Welsh side, but it was the chase as well. Putting them

:03:14.:03:17.

under pressure. That's the case of doing and ensuring that you go out

:03:18.:03:21.

there, identifying weaknesses and make the most of it. Wales took

:03:22.:03:26.

advantage of that. As I said, it was Zach Mercer ultimately who started

:03:27.:03:30.

to step back, take those high kicks and he always got England on on the

:03:31.:03:34.

front foot. That was a disappointment for Wales, after such

:03:35.:03:37.

a bright start. But this England side looked very good indeed. Why --

:03:38.:03:47.

Zach Mercer, we identified him as a threat at the start of the game.

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He's really come into this game. Ironically, getting himself under

:03:52.:03:54.

some of the kicks and running them back with interest. He's been a

:03:55.:03:58.

menace all night. Anything good for England has come through Zach

:03:59.:04:04.

Mercer, offensively, defensively, he's played nine a couple of times,

:04:05.:04:09.

he is carrying, clearing, enabling himself to use the footwork to pick

:04:10.:04:14.

up a weak shoulder in defence and he's getting through contact.

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Whether that be in attack and defence, he's getting involved in

:04:19.:04:20.

everything and making the England side tick at the moment. They were

:04:21.:04:25.

getting more and more yardage, getting beyond the gain line more

:04:26.:04:29.

often in our first task, and ultimately Harry Randall crossing

:04:30.:04:32.

the line when he did, it was a case of inevitability. I think it was.

:04:33.:04:35.

When you were on the front foot, putting pressure on the opposition,

:04:36.:04:40.

that's what happens. You concede penalties. Wales conceded a few.

:04:41.:04:45.

Harry Randall has looked sharp. He's played 20s last year, coming off the

:04:46.:04:48.

bench a number of times, and he looks a small but industrious

:04:49.:04:53.

player. We see a lot from scrum-half sticking it quickly, sharp across

:04:54.:04:56.

the first two or three yards and getting across. He's certainly got,

:04:57.:05:02.

started English try scoring, ten or 15 minutes, but you look at England

:05:03.:05:06.

at the moment and they starting to get on top, they are starting to

:05:07.:05:11.

make inroads. Wales' first up tackles are not particularly great.

:05:12.:05:15.

I just hope the team talk at half time will help stem the tide. Once

:05:16.:05:20.

that line was breached there were three tries in the space of seven

:05:21.:05:24.

minutes, quickfire tries from England. Max Wright was the next to

:05:25.:05:28.

get over the whitewash, beautifully crafted. It was a 50 or 55 metre

:05:29.:05:34.

try. They've worked it upfield. We didn't see that Guildford -- skill

:05:35.:05:42.

sets, being able to spread the ball across the field, under the

:05:43.:05:44.

defensive pressure that England were putting on them but as they were

:05:45.:05:47.

getting along the gain line it allowed them to pick holes in the

:05:48.:05:50.

defensive line and their ballplayers came into play a lot more and they

:05:51.:05:54.

managed to get over the try line a couple more times. That's very worst

:05:55.:05:59.

time to concede, the best time to score, the worst time to concede and

:06:00.:06:03.

Wales would have been hoping they would go in at 17-13, and instead

:06:04.:06:09.

its 24-13 and it's an uphill struggle.

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It was a well worked try, a training ground try as well. I think everyone

:06:14.:06:18.

thought it was going to be a case of England with a physicality they have

:06:19.:06:23.

upfront just to take it on, drive it through, Basil -- ultimately became

:06:24.:06:26.

off is back and put the centres through. It's not the best time to

:06:27.:06:31.

concede, 40 minutes still to go and you have to stay positive. I think

:06:32.:06:36.

for most of the supporters here and those, the England players, they

:06:37.:06:40.

will be confident they can go on and win this game. What's your team

:06:41.:06:44.

talk, Richie? You said Wales cannot afford to get sucked into an arm

:06:45.:06:48.

wrestle, and England have turned it into an arm wrestle. Why Wales were

:06:49.:06:53.

so successful, the kicking game, the accuracy and chase was there and

:06:54.:06:57.

they fell away from that in the last 20 minutes of that half, now going

:06:58.:07:00.

against the wind will make their lives harder but it means the whole

:07:01.:07:04.

15 players for Wales have to work that bit harder. If it means we have

:07:05.:07:07.

to bring the whole bench on the field to rejuvenate the chase line

:07:08.:07:12.

and the defensive lines are shut this England defensive carrier down,

:07:13.:07:15.

that's what they're going to have to do at the moment. Indeed plenty to

:07:16.:07:19.

be spoken about in that half-time team talk. This is where the coaches

:07:20.:07:23.

earn their money. It's going to be a tough second half for Wales, but if

:07:24.:07:26.

they can start they did the first half they certainly have a chance.

:07:27.:07:30.

We will show you some Pro12 scores, a couple of games going on this

:07:31.:07:34.

evening. Last we heard was the Ospreys were 10-7 down to Zebre, but

:07:35.:07:39.

I'm just hearing now, it's 21-10 up. Back to International Rugby Board

:07:40.:07:56.

this is axed one of the Wales versus England weakened. There are episodes

:07:57.:07:57.

two and three coming up tomorrow. Tomorrow, all roads lead to Cardiff

:07:58.:08:07.

for a double bill of one of the biggest fixtures in rugby, Wales

:08:08.:08:13.

against England. It all begins with Wales women, who will be plotting a

:08:14.:08:16.

way to beat the world champions, England. This Saturday is a huge

:08:17.:08:21.

game, just like the men, really. In this case in Lindahl world

:08:22.:08:25.

champions. It's a massive challenge for us and a huge step up. There's a

:08:26.:08:31.

great buzz around the team and it shows. As long as we keep winning,

:08:32.:08:35.

we can keep singing. You can watch that game on BBC Two Wales at

:08:36.:08:41.

11:20am. A few hours later, next door, the heat will be turned up for

:08:42.:08:45.

a battle royal at the Principality Stadium. You were brought up to get

:08:46.:08:49.

excited about Wales the England, to be involved in the fixture is very

:08:50.:08:56.

special, but it carries a huge weight of expectation. I'm a fan

:08:57.:09:00.

first, a player second, and we are all in it together. When you wear

:09:01.:09:05.

the jersey there will be no lack of pride or effort and we thank

:09:06.:09:07.

everyone for their support and hopefully they can see we're doing

:09:08.:09:11.

our best. Coverage starts on one Wales at 15 PM and 4pm S4C -- on BBC

:09:12.:09:24.

One Wales at 4:15pm. Two massive games to look forward

:09:25.:09:29.

to. The men's game tomorrow, so much hype, so much build-up, as you'd

:09:30.:09:32.

expect, Wales against England. What have you made of the grenades that

:09:33.:09:35.

Eddie Jones has been lobbying all week? It's typical Eddie Jones. He's

:09:36.:09:46.

a fantastic coach. The reality is he's a little bit concerned about

:09:47.:09:50.

this game. England have gone 15 games without defeat and he's just

:09:51.:09:55.

expecting more of a challenge tomorrow than any of the other

:09:56.:09:59.

matches. They scraped through against France. Wales did a job, a

:10:00.:10:05.

professional job out in Italy and the Cardiff factor and previous

:10:06.:10:07.

experiences, I think, are starting to get to him. You think he's

:10:08.:10:15.

rattled? I think he is. I thought it would be a tough battle for Wales

:10:16.:10:18.

and we'd do well to contain him to ten points also. I feel, whether

:10:19.:10:24.

it's a gut feeling or Welsh optimism, that we can win this game

:10:25.:10:29.

tomorrow. I can always rely your Newf optimism, I respect that. Late

:10:30.:10:34.

fitness tests on Dan Biggar and George North, both struggling with

:10:35.:10:37.

injuries. Strong rumours that George North is not going to make it. If he

:10:38.:10:42.

doesn't, who was your replacement? There's so many, we've got the likes

:10:43.:10:48.

of Eli Walker, Steff Evans, Alex Cuthbert, you've got numerous names

:10:49.:10:53.

you can throw up there but hopefully George North makes it. He's a

:10:54.:10:55.

physical specimen and that's what you will need tomorrow afternoon in

:10:56.:11:02.

the game. Keeping our figures crossed those two make it over the

:11:03.:11:05.

line. Let's have a quick word with Sean, who is bombing back down the

:11:06.:11:07.

M6 to COMMENTATOR:

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Wales were men's game tomorrow. Unbeaten, five out of five including

:11:13.:11:18.

four preseason games, they are on a roll? Yes, they are on a roll, they

:11:19.:11:23.

are confident, fired up. They realise it's a massive challenge to

:11:24.:11:27.

play against this England team tomorrow, who really have a lot of

:11:28.:11:30.

experience. A lot of players I remember from Bristol ladies rugby.

:11:31.:11:35.

They have read in the centre, Sarah Hunter, the stalwart captain at

:11:36.:11:39.

number eight, the former world were men's Player of the Year, Danielle

:11:40.:11:43.

Waterman at 15, but we have some fine players in Wales. The captain

:11:44.:11:48.

and hooker is confident, scored a try last week. I'm looking forward

:11:49.:11:52.

to it. It's going to be a keenly contested game. Only one score in it

:11:53.:11:55.

last year and Rowland himself and the girls feel they are in with a

:11:56.:12:00.

shout tomorrow. Excellent, enjoy that one and enjoy the rest of the

:12:01.:12:04.

second half as well. The Welsh team were just greeted with a massive

:12:05.:12:07.

roar from the home crowd here. Hopefully that will lift their

:12:08.:12:11.

performance in this second half. We are about to kick off so I'll hand

:12:12.:12:15.

you back to Gareth Charles. COMMENTATOR:

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Thanks very much. Let's hope the team talk and the crowd have been an

:12:18.:12:22.

inspiration. England are certainly fired up at the end of the

:12:23.:12:26.

second-half and showed what a class team they are.

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Black. The kicking started very well indeed for Wales. Pressure on Tom

:12:43.:12:56.

Parton. I've no doubt the England coaching team will have had the back

:12:57.:13:02.

row ready for the Welsh team, play through them and go through the

:13:03.:13:09.

phases. There you go. They look very dangerous, Max Wright, scored one of

:13:10.:13:13.

the three tries at the end of the first half. Curtis Langdon, the

:13:14.:13:20.

replacement hooker for England. Winning the penalty for the home

:13:21.:13:30.

side, Morgan Sieniawski. Wales are under pressure, they need to

:13:31.:13:32.

consolidate at the start of the second, gets an territory, get some

:13:33.:13:39.

confidence back. -- get some territory, get some ball, get some

:13:40.:13:40.

confidence back. Mirza again, -- Mercer again. A good

:13:41.:14:02.

game, Frank Murphy, to be fair to him. Nice to see ex-players taking

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up the whistle. Never wrong as well! Rosser. The captain, Will Jones, to

:14:05.:14:21.

carry. It's gone forward from the loosehead's grasp. Wales have to be

:14:22.:14:26.

accurate. Yes, spot on. The chances are going to be limited. They took

:14:27.:14:31.

in the first half, the first half of the first half, and they can't

:14:32.:14:35.

afford to be indisciplined with or without the ball against the now

:14:36.:14:41.

confident England team. Jared Rosser got hit off the first phase and

:14:42.:14:45.

probably the biggest ball-carrier has taken the carry on the second

:14:46.:14:49.

phase, but unfortunately he's just not that ball on. That's exactly

:14:50.:14:55.

what Wales need to carry on with for the remaining minutes of the game.

:14:56.:14:59.

His mum and dad have come to watch him from Cardiff tonight. Most of

:15:00.:15:07.

the parents, I dare say. It's something Rob Howley has been

:15:08.:15:12.

looking for, seeing if there is a sneaky way through.

:15:13.:15:19.

Parton and Jones, driven off it. A very good game last week, the Welsh

:15:20.:15:31.

captain. England have far bigger physical presence than Italy. Just a

:15:32.:15:39.

penalty though. I was going to say before half-time that the last few

:15:40.:15:44.

weeks we've seen a reduction, haven't we, in the number of tackles

:15:45.:15:49.

hi, I would think. Last week in the Six Nations it was particularly

:15:50.:15:51.

good, particularly the Scotland and Ireland game full stop it was

:15:52.:15:56.

fantastic. The consequences with the tackle now, if you are down to 13 or

:15:57.:16:01.

14 men, the impact that has going forward for the remainder of any

:16:02.:16:06.

sort of game is huge. They try to go lower. Rees is a big guy and just

:16:07.:16:09.

got above the shoulders. As he's gone down it wasn't the tidiest of

:16:10.:16:14.

tackles, but it was a penalty, no more than that for me. Again, it

:16:15.:16:19.

started on the shoulders and slid up and that's no excuse now. It's

:16:20.:16:22.

covered by the law. It will be an offence.

:16:23.:16:28.

The crowd getting behind the team. They want an early score from Wales.

:16:29.:16:38.

Keiran Williams steps inside his man. The second line of defence

:16:39.:16:41.

comes from Will Butler. Wales need to be careful, they don't

:16:42.:16:51.

want the court over playing in this area of the field now. Which is why

:16:52.:16:56.

Ben Jones puts them downtown, only as far as Tom Parton though. An

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excellent kick. That was the corner, wasn't it? That sort of right hand

:17:04.:17:08.

behind the wing that Wales had a lot of success in the first half. Parton

:17:09.:17:11.

positioned himself lovely, lovely left foot. I think his dad played a

:17:12.:17:18.

little bit for Northampton. Always like to have a left footed

:17:19.:17:23.

full-back. Lee Byrne, Barry Davis, Richard Fussell, those sorts of

:17:24.:17:28.

guys, left footers who put a bit of yen to your yang. Do you have a left

:17:29.:17:33.

foot? Yes, ambidextrous! You have to stay up late to catch me

:17:34.:17:48.

out! Gareth Jenkins along with Anthony McCann and Brown John. As

:17:49.:17:55.

always Gareth Jenkins following closely, the next crop of players

:17:56.:18:00.

coming through. Have you ever seen a picture with Anthony Buchanan in

:18:01.:18:04.

without Gareth Jenkins next to him? LAUGHTER

:18:05.:18:10.

Great blokes, great blokes, the three of them. Gareth has retired

:18:11.:18:12.

now. Talking of full-backs, Dan Evans got

:18:13.:18:26.

a hat-trick for the Ospreys, they lead 26-10. They fixed the graphics,

:18:27.:18:31.

that is what it is! Dan Evans, was a player. He probably doesn't get the

:18:32.:18:35.

recognition he deserves, whether for the Ospreys or Wales, but a hell of

:18:36.:18:39.

a talented player. He's been around a bit but he's not even that old,

:18:40.:18:43.

but he produces week in and week out for the Ospreys. If you were a coach

:18:44.:18:47.

that is exactly who you want. Absolutely. I was lucky enough to

:18:48.:18:54.

coach Wales in 2009 and he was capped on that tour of North

:18:55.:18:56.

America. Unfortunately he hasn't been capped since. But you are

:18:57.:18:58.

right. The Ospreys are good at picking up players like that, I

:18:59.:19:02.

mentioned Richard Russell, who had a great end to his career. Unfortunate

:19:03.:19:08.

for the England captain. A leg injury. Josh Bayliss of Basque comes

:19:09.:19:14.

on to take his place. That's the other replacement, Curtis Langdon,

:19:15.:19:22.

the two replacements in together. Almost a two the Welsh try line, but

:19:23.:19:28.

they managed to hold him off. They just got away with that did Wales.

:19:29.:19:35.

Managed to get his knees to Murphy. The referee has just called it, so

:19:36.:19:41.

the Wales players, I think it was Will Jones, they noticed that Frank

:19:42.:19:44.

Murphy had called that and managed to lock the ball on the floor to

:19:45.:19:47.

force the turnover and forced the Wales scrum. Callum Bradbury departs

:19:48.:19:58.

and Alex Dombrandt of Cardiff, who started the game last week, comes

:19:59.:20:03.

on. His partner Sean Moore in the second row. Moore, who got those

:20:04.:20:11.

runs early on, very early on for Wales. Seems like a long time ago

:20:12.:20:20.

now, doesn't it? He started so brightly, dominating the second

:20:21.:20:20.

quarter. Hold your weight, says Frank Murphy.

:20:21.:20:35.

They've done well in the scrum tonight, Wales. They are young unit,

:20:36.:20:38.

have a lot to learn. Might we said at the top of the show, two year

:20:39.:20:40.

cycle. Well taken by Umaga. Morris. Right and left.

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LAUGHTER Nice one, I like that! Mercer.

:21:04.:21:13.

Umaga. Plenty of bodies in midfield, being stabbed through by Parton. It

:21:14.:21:17.

was the replacement, Bailey's, who was trying to hunt it down on the

:21:18.:21:22.

far side. The the two England replacements look lively. We expect

:21:23.:21:25.

them to have some strength and depth. It will be interesting to see

:21:26.:21:29.

the difference when the Wales players come on. They are looking a

:21:30.:21:33.

bit tired. There's a lot more to come in this game yet. A long, long

:21:34.:21:38.

way to go. If they can get the next score. England have their tails up

:21:39.:21:44.

so if Wales can whether this tough patch and not concede points, Wales

:21:45.:21:46.

will have done well. Still interesting to see England not

:21:47.:21:58.

really competing being very selective over the tackle area. Not

:21:59.:22:03.

wanting to give penalties away here. By doing that they are filling the

:22:04.:22:06.

field and trying to put pressure on the kicker, as you see their Justin

:22:07.:22:09.

Clegg and Dave Blacker at nine. It seems to have been the Zach

:22:10.:22:21.

Mercer show, doesn't it? Quick hands, trying to get the ball

:22:22.:22:28.

out to Ibitoye. Wales can just lock this up, then

:22:29.:22:40.

the scrum to Wales. That's exactly what has happened. I

:22:41.:22:58.

think all 30 players were around the ball at that point, but good tactic

:22:59.:23:01.

from Wales. It's very difficult once you're in that predicament to get

:23:02.:23:02.

out of it. Wales haven't been out of their half

:23:03.:23:23.

in the opening ten minutes of the second period. Yes, they just have

:23:24.:23:28.

to weather the storm. They are against the wind. There's quite a

:23:29.:23:31.

bit of breeze down there on pitch side. They have to weather the storm

:23:32.:23:36.

and then the time will come. England's defence will break a

:23:37.:23:39.

little and that will be their time to try and get a bit of territory

:23:40.:23:44.

and get some points on the board. Morgan Morris, the number eight with

:23:45.:23:53.

the feed. Then the clear. Ben Jones, Rosser. Into the arms of cursed is

:23:54.:24:02.

-- Curtis Langdon. He's put himself about in the ten minutes he's been

:24:03.:24:07.

on the field. The he's brought some urgency. Their defensive line, to

:24:08.:24:11.

their credit, has been organised all game. It's just the kick that have

:24:12.:24:14.

caused them problems. I just wonder where Wales are going to get their

:24:15.:24:16.

points from. Parton has coped with everything in

:24:17.:24:26.

the second half. He is taking on that responsibility, rather than the

:24:27.:24:33.

wingers, maybe. Running is their strength, there's no doubt. Can't do

:24:34.:24:37.

it without your legs and Ryan Conbeer, holding on for dear life,

:24:38.:24:43.

trying to set up the Welsh counter. Just slow down enough for the

:24:44.:24:49.

English defensive line to get in position again. They are very

:24:50.:24:52.

selective. When Wales have numbers, they will not go for the ball. Again

:24:53.:24:58.

here, they will dump and fan. Wales are committed four guys. They have

:24:59.:25:01.

white shirts on the line. Will they go for this one? No. Just difficult

:25:02.:25:06.

to break it down. It's a knock-on effect it has from that, lovely

:25:07.:25:13.

hands, but it's a knock-on effect, any sort of slow ball. You have to

:25:14.:25:17.

work and regenerate to create quick ball in the next phase. Looking for

:25:18.:25:26.

another run, but the interception. Oh! Knocked on by Bayliss. Wales

:25:27.:25:36.

trying to force it and almost paying the price. Well, you almost don't

:25:37.:25:43.

want it to be a loosehead prop as I said in the first half, but he's

:25:44.:25:46.

clearing here. He looks like he's got a good pair of heels. It's

:25:47.:25:50.

almost as if he said, I shouldn't be doing this. He put the anchor on,

:25:51.:25:55.

slowed down. When you play off ten with such slow ball it allows the

:25:56.:26:00.

defensive line to get off the line. You have prop forwards, intercepting

:26:01.:26:04.

the ball outside of ten. There's an injury. Let's go back down to fill.

:26:05.:26:09.

Yellow bob bobbing the Premiership split has happened earlier last

:26:10.:26:13.

month and it's one match taking place tonight, and the Vale 7-3 up

:26:14.:26:24.

against a brave. -- arboretum. Tomorrow, two games. For my good

:26:25.:26:31.

field guide, there's no club games tomorrow because of the

:26:32.:26:35.

international hiatus, so I'm going for Pontypridd schools under 15 is

:26:36.:26:38.

against Rhondda schools, at 10:30am. That's in the shield. It's the

:26:39.:26:46.

nationwide competition for under 15 is rugby. It's the oldest schools

:26:47.:26:50.

competition in the whole world. It's well over 100 years old. The Rhondda

:26:51.:26:56.

schools, captained by a familiar face, Neil. It's the oldest

:26:57.:27:03.

competition for schools in world rugby. Anorak off!

:27:04.:27:07.

COMMENTATOR: Thanks, the pressure from the Welsh

:27:08.:27:13.

scrum will allow them to get out of the 22, after they'd done it the

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hard way earlier. Well, whatever happens tonight, the scrum has gone

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very, very well and both props and the hooker have done well in open

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play as well. Let alone the set piece. You have to give credit to

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Assiratti and they went into the game thinking England would have the

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upper hand in the set piece, but they have more than coped, Wales,

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especially at scrum time. They've got that other hand, you see the man

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on your screen, Ellis Shipp, lending his weight. Helen O'Reilly, the

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touch judge on the far side. Making sure Ellis Shipp was in the right

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place to take it. Isiekwe got in on it. Wales can't get in on it, cannot

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build. The you are right, it's sapping. They have to convert from

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area into defence and now they are stretched. A knock-on, advantage

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being played. Offside in the centre, so despite the English handling

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error they'll have the chance to go down to the Welsh 22 again. Ben

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Jones is too keen to get out of the defensive line. As any good ten,

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they want to shut the space down, but he's too keen. It's a penalty

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Wales cannot afford to give away, to give England time to go for the

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three points to look at the corner. They can't get a plays together.

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They had an interception, then got the penalty and don't win the

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line-out. They can't build. It's a message that needs to go on, a

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little bit more composure. There's a long way to go in the game. England

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a long way off from scoring in this half. But you can't dive out of the

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line when you are short of numbers in defence. Just control yourself,

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tighten up, soften up, push on the touchline and regain the wits of the

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field. We saw a couple of Welsh replacements ready to come on.

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An excellent kick by Umaga. The 15 minutes of pressure that England

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have pretty much exerted at the second half, even though they

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haven't got near the try line, they are taking points and taking the

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game away from Wales. That they two score Lee Bell. You yes, they'll be

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happy to do that. Umaga have grown in confidence as the game has gone

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on and they are happy to take three points here and there. Wales have to

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chase the game now. Cameron Lewis and Aled Ward take the

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field. What Wales cannot afford to do now

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is start slipping off tackles, especially when it is the first time

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in a long while they have had a bit of territory. They have two front up

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for at least the next ten minutes of game.

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Sensible from Randall. Just pushing Wales back deep again. Brilliant

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kick from Randall. He has kicked off his wrong foot, he has knocked it

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left footed down the touchline and has forced Talbot-Davies to gather

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it going backwards and under pressure. This gives England a

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perfect attacking opportunity just 25 metres out. Smart play. England

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looking to get the drive on. Ollie Dawe. In possession. In charge. Now

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Randall. Under pressure from Sienawski. And Rhys Carre. Lovely

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pop from Mercer. I think he has done Rhys Carre for coming in from the

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side and again, giving opportunity to ban this into the corner and for

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England to go to their strengths. It goes down to the Welsh discipline.

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It has not been there in this second half and we can see that on the

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scoreboard. Well-controlled, English scrums usually are. A lovely kick

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from Umaga. Don't is that -- putting it into that five metre area and it

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is trouble for Wales. Rhys Carre has been struggling. It looks like he

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has a little bit of cramp. I have been watching him for the last five

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minutes. He takes a lot of energy, he is a big guy. No doubt we will

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see a couple of replacements in the front row sooner rather than later.

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The other prop has been replaced. That was Chris Coleman we had a bit

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of a glimpse of. We need a little bit of Euro magic. They did well to

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disrupt that one. Pressure on the Welsh try line. Zach Mercer. He

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always makes yards once he has his hands on the ball. If you were a

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betting man, you would expect him to score by the time the game is out.

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Harry Randall itching to get his hands on the ball. Isiekwe. To the

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blindside comes Zach Mercer but over the top goes the ball. Back inside

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but only as far as Dane Blacker. Wales survive. Just. Good rescue

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from the scrum-half. Tracking on the inside, as he should. It is that man

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again, he is a threat. Over the top. Good rescue. You have got to give

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Harry Randall credit. He was the same last week. He is very

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diminutive in stature. He is not the biggest guy but he is very

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threatening around the fringes. Tactically he is very good. And for

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once, the English line-out is untidy. The coaching team in front

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of us, they will be absolutely livid because two clear-cut chances, clean

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ball in terms of no contest. They have not executed. Letting Wales off

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the Hook. Although, it is a dangerous place. There he is, the

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scrum-half, Harry Randall, having a fine game. He has been one of the

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best players on the field. Yes, pulling the strings for England.

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Wales battling to get away from the try line.

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Well, one feels that relief is only going to be a momentary thing.

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Someone for Wales needs to grab this game by the scruff of the neck and

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bring some urgency to it. Whether that is one of the guys off the

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bench or Dane Blacker, somebody for Wales has got to offer something a

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little bit more with a little bit more urgency. Nice footwork and

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great hands from Will Jones. That is the kind of thing that needs to spur

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Wales onwards. Ioan Nicholas. It has got the crowd involved as well. And

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that is what you need with a full house. You need to give them

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something to shout about. Defence up very quickly but that is great work

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by Ellis Shipp. A lovely pass as well. Dombrandt. Penalty. A quick

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tap and go from Dane Blacker. Was not ten metres. That is going to be

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yellow for Harry Randall. Absolutely no empathy from a former scrum-half

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to another scrum-half, taking out a quick and tough playing scrum-half.

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It is one of those, if you are the opposing nine, you do not want him

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to get the upper hand. He knew that was coming. He made the decision,

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you are not going past me and I will take ten minutes in the bin. He

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thought maybe there was no one is at home but I think there might have

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been. Ten minutes in the bin. Great work by Ellis Shipp to get past that

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first contact area. He off-loaded it would Dombrandt. But allowed Wales

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to get the penalty. I tell you what. I think he did write for his team.

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There was only Ollie Dawe back there. He took one for the team and

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sometimes you have to do that. I just mentioned a moment to go down

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the other end of the field, Umaga put the penalty five metres out. And

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look at this, maybe Rush did a little bit. Ten metres out. It

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changes the call and makes it slightly easier to defend. It has

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taken them this long in the second half to get down into England

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territory. Cameron Lewis adds his weight. So do the centres. There is

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nobody left on the outside and they are being pushed back by England.

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They have to be smart, use the extra man advantage. There will be no nine

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sweeping. Chris Coleman with the pick and go around the corner.

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Another penalty coming Wales' way. Aled Ward driving on.

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You could just hear the forwards in the background, they want to go

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again, they fancy their chances. They have been under the pen for the

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whole of the second half but now Wales have a chance to make their

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mark and claw their way back into this one. It is amazing what one bit

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of magic can do. A good carry in the Centre from Ioan Nicholas and then

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that great bit of play by the hooker, Ellis Shipp and then these

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tap and go and all of a sudden, the momentum shifts. The crowd willing

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them onwards. They want a score from here. He got it at the second

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attempt. Did not go forward. Wales are that close to the try line.

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Trying to go through the middle. They are celebrating. As though they

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have got there. That guy on screen, Chris Coleman, I think it was. He

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picked it up from short range and he is a big old blimp to stop from that

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far out. -- big old lump. Wales were patient. It was scrappy ball. The

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touch judge had a big part to play, calling no knock-on. It is Chris

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Coleman who just about makes the line. Fair play to the assistant

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referee. He gives the referee the thumbs up and you can clearly see

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from that shot. He is pretty delighted with himself. What an

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impact Chris Coleman, the Dragons' tight head, has had. You asked for

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the Euro magic. That is just what Wales needed. They rode the storm

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for 20 minutes after half-time and now they are straight back into this

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game. They need to correct this kick-off and get a bit more

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territory. What did I say about convergence? This one, certainly.

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Big kick. Not this time though for Ben Jones which means England still

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have a two score lead. A tough kick for him but credit the young man

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coming on here. He took it upon himself and showed initiative. He

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wanted to get over for his team adheres pretty delighted. It is not

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over yet, boys. That is 19 and a half stone you have to try and stop

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from a litre out. -- meter. Confusion between Ellis Shipp and

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Lewis but it came off Lewis' legs. That is a lucky break for Wales.

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England have brought on the replacement scrum-half in Alex

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Mitchell. That is at least for the time being while the sin-bin is

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still ongoing. Another drive forward from Zach Mercer. Interesting to see

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how England respond. They have... We have got a game on here. The Wales

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boys are up for it than the replacements have brought a bit of

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freshness. Tom Curry has gone through a lot of work in this second

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half, the English blindside. We were speaking to Dean Ryan at half-time.

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He has a twin brother and they share appearances, apparently. From a

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coach 's perspective, would you roll the bench? Would you try and get

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them on with 15 minutes remaining? They need a little more energy and

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urgency. It is a good question. I am a cultural likes to stick with the

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boys who are in the throes of the game if they are going OK. I do not

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like to make changes for changes' sake. But if they are struggling or

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if there are some that you think and make a significant difference, as

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Coleman has, and the props have done well. They have made a difference. I

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have got a former international, Mike Umaga, father of Jacob and an

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England World Cup winner, Paul Grayson. England or Wales tomorrow?

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Obviously England. That is enough from you. Mike, Jacob playing really

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well. I have often wondered, being the parent of a player, is it more

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nerve wracking watching your son or playing yourself? Definitely

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watching your kids play, because you cannot do anything to help them. But

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it is something you get used to. Watching them grow up. He is doing

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all right. On having a son playing for England in the 20s. I will ask

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you about tomorrow as well. I think it'll be a tough one. I think Wales

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played really well at the back end of the game last week. England with

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a few injuries, not performing too well. I think it might be a chance

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for Wales. Love to hear that. Listen to that, Paul Grayson. Great to see

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you both. Go for three or go for the corner?

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That is the decision. Personally, it is still a yellow card. I will go

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for the corner. Show your intent. You are the home team. I understand

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taking three but my personal decision, go for it. On the

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touchline, they are pointing towards the corner. They are barking some

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orders. We will soon find out. We have not seen much of the England

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winger is this half. Wales have really come back into this. Yes,

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great tackle. He is straight back onto his feet. They have just got

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over the ball and slowed it down and force the turnover and the penalty.

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Just as well he had a word when he did. Because Jacob Umaga... It is

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James Grayson coming on inside of him. Maybe he should have had a word

:45:11.:45:17.

the other way around. They need to get closer to the line. Nice off the

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top ball. It is the replacement Steff Thomas. Just slowed down by

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England. That is key for Wales. Ioan Nicholas in amongst the forwards.

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Lasered back nicely. Sienawski. Charging onto it is Dombrandt. This

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is good pressure by Wales now. England trying to make a mess of the

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Welsh possession. Certainly slowed it down. There is a lot of space on

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the left hand side. Wales are having to put a lot of numbers into the

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contact area. Straight through the middle again. So close. Yellow card

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surely. Is this going to be a second yellow? It should be and it is.

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Chris Langdon gets yellow carded. What do you go for here? Scrum.

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There are still two won the Ben -- to win the bin. There will be space

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all over that field. A poor decision by the man on your screen. Another

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great pick and go through that breakdown. He has just gone in the

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side. And given the penalty away. I find this difficult to believe, with

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two men in the bin, they are going for the posts. Unless they know they

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are guaranteed another ten minutes, as soon as Harry Randall... If he

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does come back on, shortly... They are backing themselves to get the

:47:33.:47:38.

try to win. Ben Jones gets the penalty and that brings Wales back

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within a score. Final ten minutes and Wales need a converted try to

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turn this game. England will finish with 14 men. A terrible decision by

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Curtis Langdon. Wales now have the opportunity. What they don't want to

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do is go through too many phases. Inside their 22. There is a chance

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they will give that penalty away at the breakdown but they have got the

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ball away and it is to that man Zach Mercer. He slips the tackle and he

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is still going. All the way for the corner. Op. Cit. Back inside. On the

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try line. This could be the killer blow for England. He reaches and

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makes it. Zach Mercer gets the try that gets England a bonus point and

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may well have got the victory as well. And he has been everywhere,

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has the English number eight, Zach Mercer, and it looks like he has

:48:44.:48:48.

done the job for his team. I said if I was a betting man... I like this

:48:49.:48:55.

guy because he is a cut above the rest. He made that himself. He has

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took on it upon himself to score and it is a very, very clinical score.

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There were a lot of spaces out wide. We can see it here but there was

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only way that Zach Mercer was going. What I like about him is he does the

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flashy stuff but then he is straight back on his feet and gets the ball

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again. His work ethic is second to none. He is a big, strong guy and he

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just dropped over the touchline. We'll Wales rue the decision to go

:49:30.:49:34.

for five or seven? What a great kick that is. A chip off the old block,

:49:35.:49:41.

James Grayson. We talked about development at the top and we said

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it was a mixture of trying to win and these players learning. They are

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learning from their sometimes you learn that when you win and

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sometimes you learn when you don't. There is only one way that these

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players will get better, they will gain experience and by playing in

:49:59.:50:05.

games like these, hopefully in 18 months - two years' time, we will

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see the positive from that. Change is all wrong. That is Phil Jones on

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for Kieran Williams. He is a fly-half. England back up to 14. On

:50:15.:50:22.

replacement scrum-half has stayed on.

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It is getting very chesty out there, boys. Maybe someday make coach at

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Saracens, I don't know. -- something of coach.

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The referee has made some good decisions. A good game. He is not

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too keen to blow his whistle, even if he has... If he has not blown his

:51:14.:51:20.

whistle at the correct time, he will come back to it. That allows the

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game to flow a little bit more. We have not seen an awful lot of him

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and that is what you want from the referees, in my eyes.

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Well, the Welsh comeback was short lived.

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Zach Mercer away again from the base. Great skills back inside.

:51:48.:52:00.

Lovely slip from Ollie Dawe. And Dominic Morris having a run on the

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left. Mitchell, Zach Mercer once again. Wales up too quickly.

:52:06.:52:19.

Isiekwe. And in the end, Frank Murphy coming all the way back for

:52:20.:52:26.

the offside in midfield. It'll be all about the clock for England now

:52:27.:52:30.

and Zach Mercer just trying to slow things down. They want to run the

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clock down. They have done another. They will either take the scrum or

:52:36.:52:40.

go for the corner. Zach Mercer has called for the scrum. Your shout for

:52:41.:52:45.

man of the match tonight? I really enjoy the game and Wales have been

:52:46.:52:49.

in it from the start. That has made the game for me. The front row has

:52:50.:52:54.

gone well. Ellis Shipp has had a good game. Ben Jones has kicked

:52:55.:52:59.

well, especially in the first half. Umaga got better. Harry Randall paid

:53:00.:53:07.

well. But my man of the match, that man there, number eight for England,

:53:08.:53:12.

Zach Mercer. He has been absolutely immense this evening, has the Bath

:53:13.:53:18.

number eight. It is no coincidence that Eddie Jones highlighted him in

:53:19.:53:26.

the week. He has got that ability. He has got that quality to play

:53:27.:53:30.

under pressure and do it time and time again and that is what we have

:53:31.:53:35.

seen from him so far this season. He has shown everything. He has carried

:53:36.:53:40.

and offended, lovely off-loads and has brought other people into the

:53:41.:53:42.

game and he has taken over the captaincy and scored the

:53:43.:53:47.

all-important try. I just wish he would pull his socks up. Interesting

:53:48.:53:54.

decision for England. They have gone for a scrum. It is uncontested and

:53:55.:53:59.

it gives them an easy start. Trying to weave patterns behind. I got the

:54:00.:54:10.

approving nod from the boys in front. I think they are pretty happy

:54:11.:54:13.

with Zach Mercer 's performance and he has been a car as much as much as

:54:14.:54:17.

anything but let's give credit to this young Wales team. Right across

:54:18.:54:20.

the board, they have been consistent. Yes, they have made some

:54:21.:54:27.

mistakes. But a good performance, albeit not going to be a winning

:54:28.:54:29.

one. Mitchell. He was on the box of both

:54:30.:55:11.

Manchester United and Manchester city. But has now decided to

:55:12.:55:21.

concentrate on rugby. Why? I don't know. A few more bob to be made with

:55:22.:55:26.

the round ball, if you can make the grade, of course. A desperate late

:55:27.:55:37.

off-load from Phil Jones. And as Wales, with Will Jones, trying

:55:38.:55:41.

desperately to get crumbs of possession, they give away the

:55:42.:55:47.

penalty. As the tackle comes in, the ball just spills out.

:55:48.:55:55.

I think Wales have given the crowd enough to shout about and to come

:55:56.:56:04.

back. It is a lovely venue. It is a very cold night but is a good night

:56:05.:56:12.

for rugby. France were the last team to beat them here back in 2014.

:56:13.:56:18.

England will take that crown now, the world champions, who themselves

:56:19.:56:22.

have won the last six games. They're ringing -- and their winning run

:56:23.:56:29.

will continue. Nine tries and 50 points against France last week.

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Another bonus point tonight. Good work by Mitchell. Under pressure

:56:35.:56:41.

from Talbot-Davies. Zach Mercer. You feel that England can play better

:56:42.:56:46.

but maybe Ireland is going to be the sternest test now having put France

:56:47.:56:50.

and Wales away. I think these will be favourites for the championship

:56:51.:56:55.

now. Only one win last year for England. But they are back to

:56:56.:57:02.

winning ways this year. Again, a long, long advantage has been played

:57:03.:57:04.

by Frank Murphy. They are going to see the game out.

:57:05.:57:21.

Well, they have done their job and now they are just going to turn the

:57:22.:57:23.

knife at the end. So, the clock has turned red. And

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this will be the final action. He has got a kicking style like his

:57:37.:58:00.

dad. Can he round it off? James Grayson puts the icing on the kick

:58:01.:58:06.

for England. First I Wales have lost here for three seasons. Started

:58:07.:58:14.

brightly for Wales, they came back strongly and came back within a

:58:15.:58:16.

score but in the end, England were too strong for them. Four tries for

:58:17.:58:25.

England. They have a 100% record and Wales, after an excellent win in

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Italy last week, taste defeat at the hands of England. A lot to learn

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from that one. Yes, lots to learn but lots of positives as well. A

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strong England outfit and they put them under considerable pressure at

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the start of the game. You have to say, there is growth in this Welsh

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team. Jason Strange got it tactically right for long periods of

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the game but England were just too strong and too much depth and run

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out deserve it win is. Three tries at the end of the first half for

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England and they looked to run away with the game but Wales after being

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under pressure at the beginning of the second as well fought back hard

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and Chris Coleman 's try gave them hope. Ben Jones went for the penalty

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and I wonder if they will rue that decision because that allowed

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England back into the game and the vital try which followed immediately

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from Zach Mercer, the man of the match, really rounded things off for

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them and England were the winners in the end and that by 37-21 points.

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Wales were desperate to start strongly in the second half, but

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England's lead was extended early on by Jacob Umaga. The referee got

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heavily involved. Two yellows for England, the first, Harry Randall,

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tackling from an offside position, and Wales crashed over for their

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try, Christian Coleman. But that guy there, Zach Mercer, was an absolute

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menace for Wales all night. Capped his man of the match display with a

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deserved try, a bonus point try, and a deserved win for England and

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ultimately Wales had no answer for their power? Absolutely, Zach Mercer

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was fantastic. There were a number of other ball-carriers upfront who

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were great. Querrey in the back row performed very, very well, Langdon,

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who was yellow carded, carried exceptionally well. It was all about

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power. Wales almost came back into it but when you have big men coming

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into you all the time it's difficult to contain them. Zach Mercer is man

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of the match. He's with. Congratulations, your parent club

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will be proud of you. Looked dodgy in the first half. Were you worried?

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We were worried but we have a hell of an outfit. We have the skill set,

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we did want to focus on the first 20, it wasn't there today, but I'm

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proud of the last 60 minutes. Especially when Wales started coming

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back but we managed to produce the goods. You have been playing a lot

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for Bath's first team. How different is it playing at the Premiership

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level and then the under 20s? The other 20s are faster. They want to

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show what they can do. The Premiership, I'm an underdog. I do

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what I do. I've really enjoyed my Premiership and I love coming back

:01:30.:01:32.

to 20s. You've been playing a lot to Bath. What is Faletau like to be

:01:33.:01:39.

with? By play a lot with him, I'm really proud and happy that he's

:01:40.:01:43.

back from injury tomorrow and hopefully he doesn't play too well,

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but I'll be watching and learning. Wales or England tomorrow? England.

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Congratulations again. Thank you. Commiserations on the defeat, but

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couldn't fault the Welsh, particularly in the second-half when

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you came back. Yes, we started quite strong. We let it slip for the last

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20 minutes of the second-half. There was hope towards the end in a last

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20 minute period. A bit of a shame we scored a quick off the restart,

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the boys' had struck to bid. We fought all the way through. I can't

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fault the boys' effort. Everything went well but England were a better

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outfit. Well said. It's about the relevant and learning. What have you

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learned in particular from tonight? We are young squad and we learned

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that we have to play in a performance. We can't have a 20

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minute burst at the beginning of the game and expect to sail through the

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rest of the game. The intensity has to be there for 80 minutes. Weldon

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on the effort. Thanks. Plenty of spirit shown by the Welsh in the

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second half. Have you ever been colder? Oh, I don't think I have!

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Honest, well done. Zach Mercer was confident lad, spoke very well

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indeed. It slows a prize he is risen to through the ranks as quickly as

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has. -- it's no surprise he has risen through the ranks. He was

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irresistible at times. How much energy has he got! . He's a class

:03:22.:03:31.

act, he has raw power, tactical and technical now is. He knows what to

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do, when to do it, when to throw the flow door hold onto the ball as try

:03:37.:03:39.

to go through the next phase of contacts. Everything good that

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England created did tonight came through that man on your screen. He

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was absolutely superb. He thoroughly deserved his man of the match this

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evening. At times it was like watching a school game, where

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there's one kid so much bigger and better than the rest. He's been

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playing at a level much higher than under 20s, in the Premiership, and

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it showed at times tonight. It does and it shows that he can step up a

:04:06.:04:10.

level again. England have some very, very talented back row forwards.

:04:11.:04:14.

There's another one coming through. He played like a man against boys at

:04:15.:04:18.

times out there. He showed his real qualities. It's not just about his

:04:19.:04:23.

pace and power, it was about his understanding of the game, his

:04:24.:04:26.

ability to off-load under pressure, constantly go across the gain line

:04:27.:04:31.

and put it into space. We can see the Wales captain signing

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autographs. He spoke well as well and at one point in commentary,

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Ritchie said a Welsh player needs to step up and take the game by the

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scruff of the neck and almost in immediate response to that, Will

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Jones did that with key interventions. Yes, it was a poor

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line-out throw. This is at a time when England were comfortable. You

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want a man to lead from the front. You expect that from a captain and

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he did that. His ability to chase the ball down, to get Wales on the

:04:59.:05:03.

front foot, it ended up with Chris Coleman going across. It looked as

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if Wales were back in the game. It wasn't that long afterwards the gain

:05:08.:05:10.

England started to come back and it was a turnover ball by Will Jones.

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Fantastic work. Sam Warburton like in many ways, that gave them the

:05:18.:05:21.

opportunity for Wales to keep the pressure on. A young man with a

:05:22.:05:24.

bright future. Not the biggest of men, certainly in comparison to the

:05:25.:05:30.

opposition today, but he had plenty of guts and effort and lead by

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example. We heard him say to Phil how the other 20s is about

:05:38.:05:40.

development and developing players for the level above, but when you

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come in front of this Bogle, passionate crowd, they will have

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been disappointed to have lost tonight? Yes, they can take a lot of

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positives from it. The guys who came off the bench were good, they

:05:57.:06:02.

offered a carrying threat, a leadership played well throughout.

:06:03.:06:06.

Asked Ellis Shipp played well throughout. Wales are very young

:06:07.:06:11.

side and the first year in this two your progression. In two or three

:06:12.:06:15.

years' time, the more of these group of boys that we can get through

:06:16.:06:18.

playing regional and national rugby, the better for Wales in general.

:06:19.:06:23.

Ryan Conbeer are celebrated his 18th birthday on Sunday, is with Phil.

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I'm sure everyone at your rugby club will be proud of you. What was the

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difference between the opening 20 minutes and the period when England

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came back? I think we didn't really drop off, but they were very

:06:41.:06:43.

physical and as soon as they got the first score we were down a little

:06:44.:06:47.

bit. When we came out after the second half, we were lifted again

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and we were all together. What was said at half-time? Not much, just

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saying the first 20 minutes was really good, we dropped off a little

:06:58.:07:03.

bit but came out firing and gutted we got a loss. These games are about

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development and probably more so than the result. What can you take

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from this game, going to Scotland? We can take a lot, we can learn from

:07:16.:07:18.

what England have done to us, but we will come away, learn and go back to

:07:19.:07:23.

training next week and hopefully come out then the next game firing.

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Do you get to see the big game tomorrow? I will be in Cardiff, but

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I'll be watching, definitely. Good man. Cheers, thank you. Ryan

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Conbeer, Jason Strange, the other 20s coach has joined us.

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Commiserations, that was a powerful English side you were facing

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tonight? We knew we were up against strong opposition and after the

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first 20 minutes our intensity dropped a bit and their physicality

:07:52.:07:57.

got on top. Once they got speed of ball it was difficult to contain

:07:58.:08:03.

them. Full credit to the players. I thought the second half we managed

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to get quicker ball for ourselves and played some good stuff

:08:06.:08:11.

ourselves, 27-21 it was game on. Disappointed to concede our late

:08:12.:08:15.

try. Two purple patches. This first ten or 12 minutes when the kicking

:08:16.:08:21.

game was targeting the back three and in the second half, when England

:08:22.:08:26.

were camped in your half for the best part of 20 minutes, to score

:08:27.:08:31.

the try must have been pleasing? Yes, it was a tactic to try to

:08:32.:08:35.

isolate their wingers and it works really effectively in the first

:08:36.:08:38.

half, but our accuracy and kick chase fed them a bit too easily in

:08:39.:08:42.

the second half. When you have big, powerful wingers on the front foot,

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they were a good side. Zach Mercer was a wrecking ball today. He was a

:08:48.:08:51.

danger man. We highlighted him, I'm sure you did your homework on him as

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well. When they have a player in their ranks on irresistible form,

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how difficult is it to keep him Conte and? You can see already he's

:09:00.:09:07.

a special talent. He was the difference between the two sides. He

:09:08.:09:12.

had the X Factor. He's very skilful. For me, he was the difference in the

:09:13.:09:17.

two teams. Udderbelly blowing at the end, very impressive. The Grand

:09:18.:09:21.

Slams are out of the window this season but you are still in

:09:22.:09:27.

targeting defending your title? Very much, a young side, we are learning

:09:28.:09:31.

tonight and in difficult circumstances at times, they showed

:09:32.:09:34.

a lot of courage in the second half and we have a number of players to

:09:35.:09:37.

come back in to make the squad more competitive. We are looking forward

:09:38.:09:41.

to playing up in Scotland now. Best of luck with that, we appreciate

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your time. Thank you. Jason Strange, losing coach this evening. Pro12,

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the full round of fixtures this weekend, three Welsh regions in

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action. We can look at the Dragons' game, they have monster. This is one

:09:58.:10:02.

of the Munster tries. Over the line from close range there.

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One of several tries, we will update you on the score for that one. These

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are the scores overall. Ospreys went 10-0 down initially.

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These latest scores for Glasgow and Scarlets and Munster and Dragons.

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It's a losing cause for the Dragons in Munster. Munster currently top of

:10:40.:10:43.

the table. That will be one you will have been keeping an interest in

:10:44.:10:47.

from the commentary box as scores were updated. Dragons being your

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team. That was always a tough away trip at this time of year. Would no

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matter what time of year you go to Munster, they are missing eight

:10:57.:10:59.

Irish internationals but they get a full house there over in Ireland

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every week. They have the strength and depth that probably the Dragons

:11:06.:11:09.

haven't got at the moment. All we can do is keep building, keep

:11:10.:11:13.

learning, and hopefully keep getting better. Shall we talk about Wales

:11:14.:11:17.

and event tomorrow? We have a few minutes left. A pretty big game. You

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said earlier you for Eddie Jones was rattled and that's why he needs to

:11:23.:11:25.

keep chugging these bonds all week. What is it about the Wales side

:11:26.:11:34.

he'll be concerned most about? Having Alun Wyn Jones as captain,

:11:35.:11:39.

he's an inspirational he'll get more out of the players and some has in

:11:40.:11:44.

the past but -- than some has in the past. Sam is still a key component

:11:45.:11:48.

of Welsh success. Wales are side who when they are down bounce back. They

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have the ability to bounce back. They were poor in terms of

:11:53.:11:56.

performance during the autumn, but you could see signs in the second

:11:57.:11:58.

half certainly against Italy that they are starting to get back on

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their horse and making things happen. Wales are a very good side.

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You don't know when they are beaten and I think Eddie Jones, coming to

:12:09.:12:12.

Cardiff, England have struggled certainly in Cardiff for a number of

:12:13.:12:16.

years, is a little bit concerned. But it will be a tough battle. One

:12:17.:12:21.

area Wales seem to have an advantage as the back row. You look at the

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England back row, four test starts between them, the Welsh back row,

:12:27.:12:32.

130 caps between them, an advantage? It will be a huge battle tomorrow.

:12:33.:12:37.

They still have the weight and bulk have England, but we have the Gyle,

:12:38.:12:44.

the Justin Tipurics of the work Sam Warburton does defensively. We have

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the work Justin Tipuric does offensively. The mixture can

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hopefully work out tomorrow and become a success. Wales to win? Just

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about. I'll go for Wales. That's all we have time for at a freezing Parc

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Eirias at Colwyn Bay. These guys are looking forward to get indoors. It

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wasn't Wales' night. England brought too much power and pace to the

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party. It's the turn of the senior men's team and women's team

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tomorrow, that game is on live from 11:30am on BBC Wales. Let's hope

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Wales can do the business twice over tomorrow. We'll see you there. Good

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night.

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Ross Harries presents coverage of Wales u20s v England u20s from Colwyn Bay. Studio guests include former Wales internationals Robert Jones and Richie Rees.