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May 27th. 2017. How will history look back on this day? Will this be

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the day that champions become legends? Chelsea continue to

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dominate English football. It all started with that double back in

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2017. Is this the day that shapes a club's future? Arsene Wenger has

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signed a lifetime contract here at Arsenal. He is the best manager we

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have ever had and I am glad he is staying! What happens today changes

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lives. Brilliant goal. Listen to the Arsenal roar around Wembley. Whose

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name will live on forever? The Queen has announced a new holiday in

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honour of Arsenal's FA Cup star Sir Theo Walcott. Breaking news from

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north London, Arsenal have renamed their stadium after Alexis Sanchez.

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Triumph. Victor Moses. The Academy Award goes to Mesut Ozil. But on

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this day dreams can be shattered. One mistake can ruin everything. So

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what will it be? On this FA Cup final day. Slightly over the top

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maybe! But it certainly is a day to make your name.

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It's an absolutely glorious day at Wembley for the 136th FA Cup final.

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Chelsea have already won the Premier League,

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now they're targeting the double in Antonio Conte's first season.

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Arsenal missed out on the Champions League but are chasing a third

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Supporters have been asked to arrive early due to increased security

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checks following the terror attack in Manchester.

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There'll be a minute's silence in memory of the victims.

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The thoughts of everyone here at Wembley are with all those affected.

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That's the view down Wembley Way right now.

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90,000 people making their way into the stadium.

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Here's a taster of what to expect from us over the next hour or so.

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We chart the remarkable rise of back-to-back Premier League

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We go back to where it all began for World Cup winner Mesut Ozil.

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And, Josh Widdicombe and Elis James are put to the FA Cup test.

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Tony Adams. Is that my voice? I went Welsh on you!

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Joining us in the studio we've got goals, lots of goals,

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Alan Shearer, Chelsea's record scorer Frank Lampard and Arsenal

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Seven FA Cup winners medals between them.

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I am going to move it on quickly. This game has everything for the

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neutral. It has a team that is flying with confidence. Having

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already won the Premier League with a manager who's looking for a double

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and his first FA Cup. Arsenal struggling with injuries and

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suspensions but with a manager going for a record-breaking 7th.

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Incredible. Should be a great game. Frank, in terms of Chelsea, you won

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the double of course with Chelsea. They've already won the league. Does

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it help when you have won the league to come to a Cup final or does it

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make any difference I think maybe it helps. They're confident. On a good

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run. They won the league two weeks ago now. It's how they've handled

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that patch that's important. They've a manager that will be pushing them

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and when you get so close to such history for Chelsea to do it again,

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then the players will be more than up for it. Different for Arsenal.

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It's been a poor season for them. Would this salvage it for them,

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victory today? Yeah, finishing out of the top four is disappointing,

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but if you can beat a Chelsea side, an impressive Chelsea this season in

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the Cup final that would be quite impressive. I would take it as

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success. OK. For all their success in recent

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times, these two clubs have met The year was 2002 and it was

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an Englishman in central midfield It's not just any other game, it's

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the FA Cup final. I never in my wildest dreams thought I can maybe

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play in a Cup final, but to play in five FA Cup finals is an amazing

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experience. 2002 probably my famous year, the one I really enjoyed the

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most. Chelsea were become ago real threat to probably Arsenal,

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Manchester United. So it started to get a special derby. The players

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they had, they were superb. A young Frank Lampard, young John Terry.

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Zola, what a player he was coming off the bench. It was a tough game.

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The stadium was rocking, it really was, what an atmosphere. The game

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itself was really, really tight. Second half opened up a little bit.

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Chelsea had two or three really good chances. David Seaman made a couple

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of really good saves. David Seaman had to turn it over the bar! I was

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playing centre midfield. Tony Adams picked the ball at the back. Just in

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time, Lampard challenged. Got into a good angle. It was really weird.

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When I picked the ball up, I was waiting for the runners from either

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side, but there weren't many red shirdz. Henry took a good run, he

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took players away from the ball that was perfect, it was my opportunity.

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All I did was open my body on the right foot. Two to his left and he

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shoots. Oh, Ray Parlour. Next minute it was in the back of the net. The

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joy, the emotion. The subs running all over you. It was brilliant. I

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done that every day in training but in a Cup final it's a little bit

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harder. We managed to score just as good a goal that was bent into the

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far corner. Probably the best week of my life. We went to Old Trafford

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five days later and won the double. What a day for everybody involved in

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the club. Coming off that pitch knowing you just won the FA Cup

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final, knowing you can show your grandchildren as you get older to

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say I played in an FA Cup final and lucky for me I scored in one. What a

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cracking goal it was as well. Well worth seeing again. Where were you,

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Frank? I lost it in the build-up, didn't realise that! Tracking back.

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What's up with you? When I start criticising everyone later on...

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Jogging back. Look. Marvellous. Did he really do that in training all

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the time? Ray was an underrated player but he did not do that every

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day in training! I mean, it's not great losing an FA Cup final. It's

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awful. We have all been there. I remember that was my first. I

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remember loving the day. I enjoyed it. Nothing worse than not winning

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and coming away losing a game like that. But the build-up was fantastic

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and that's what this is all about. Certainly is. Here is a reminder of

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how both how both teams - how both teams booked their place in the

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final. Breaks the hearts of Preston North

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End. It's 19 years since they went out at the third round stage. Pedro,

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lovely goal. It's Willian, it's in! Sanchez has two for company. All the

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time in the world. Arsenal have breezed through tonight.

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Costa and that has sealed Chelsea's place in the last eight.

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If football still has a place for dreamers then Green Lane is that

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place. That is surely Arsenal through to the quarter-finals.

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Now the eyes of the football world are on Lincoln.

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Sanchez, brilliantly placed. Arsenal go through to yet another FA Cup

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semifinal. One semifinal place left. It's a

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considerably big three already in there. Another big name is going to

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join them. Kante finds a way! Both chasing the

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title and hoping to win this FA Cup. Driven, brilliant goal! Their double

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is still on. It's part two of the big-hitting Wembley weekend. Welbeck

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missed it. Sanchez has scored! It's going to be an all-London FA Cup

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final between Arsenal and Chelsea. It most certainly is. The players

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are out on the Wembley turf soaking up the atmosphere. We can hear now

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from one of the Chelsea team. Gary Cahill. Tell us about the last week

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and how difficult it's been and the challenge of winning the league and

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keeping everybody in the right mental space and getting motivated

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again for today? First of all, it's been enjoyable. I spoke after the

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West Brom game when we sealed it and won the league. We have had a

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relaxed week or so, rightly so, celebrated it. We had a couple of

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days off. Then it was important that we got back to business in the way

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the manager is, they crack the whip as soon as we finished celebrations

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and we had a week's build-up for this game. We have been training as

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hard as we have all season. We are in the right frame of mind and we

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know that we have a great opportunity in front of us today. So

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much has come from the back three that has been consistent this season

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in terms of playing together, 28 times. How enjoyable has that been

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for you to captain from that position and see what the team can

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do? It's been amazing. It's been amazing so be part of a successful

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campaign with the squad and to have the armband for a lot of that has

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been unbelievable for myself. A lot has been made of the change in

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formation. It's worked well for us. We have some great personalities in

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there. Thankfully this season we have managed to keep players fit. We

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have had a lot of consistency throughout team selection. We have

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people coming in and out every now and again, but the players are more

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than capable as you have seen. We have been lucky in that respect but

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at the same time shown a lot of quality. We have done very well. We

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have had a great campaign. We have a chance now to finish it off on a

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high. And win an historic double. Good luck. Thank you very much.

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He really has had an excellent season. The teams have been named.

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Dan Walker can bring us up to speed. Thank you very much. Wonderful buzz

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down here at pitchside. About five degrees hotter than it is outside

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the stadium. Let's show you the two teams for the final.

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Starting with the Arsenal side. The first time this back three have

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started together. Oxlade-Chamberlain returns from a

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hamstring problem and fills in at left wingback. Sanchez also fit.

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Arsenal, several key players not here. Chelsea at full strength, that

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includes the keeper Courtois. He has been first choice in the Cup

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since the quarter-finals. The Blues have a settled defence.

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This back three started 28 of their 32 league games.

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Matic is preferred. Moses and Alonso the familiar two on the flanks. On

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the right, Pedro gets the vote instead of the semifinal match

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winner Willian. Hazard and Costa completing the line-up. There you

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have it. The two teams who will battle here on the Wembley turf in

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around about an hour's time. Will it be double bubble for Chelsea? Or a

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magnificent seven for Arsenal and Arsene Wenger?

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Chelsea at full strength. First, are you nervous about the back three

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forced on Arsene Wenger and Ospina in goal? Yeah, I am, if Arsenal win

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this game I couldn't find fans last night who said they fancy Arsenal to

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win especially with that back four, that back three never played

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together and Ospina. It's asking a lot against a Chelsea side that are

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just, the system is brilliant, players are playing well. They

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haven't a lot of choice back there because of injury and suspensions

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but it's a huge ask. Not started a game, Mertesacker.

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No real injuries for Chelsea, full strength, makes them look very

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strong favourites, Frank. And no European football, which they have

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used to their advantage. Antonio Conte working hard with the team.

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They make their own fortune. They have been ruthless winning games but

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have certainly been fortunate. Conte is very good tactically, will he

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target the central defence and Mertesacker in particular? 100%. And

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I think he will say to Costa to get into the back three as soon as he

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can. Definitely. Frank, you know Petr Cech very well. Will he be

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upset to have been left out of the final? We have seen it with other

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managers. Petr Cech played the quarterfinal and semifinal. I've

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never been a fan of that rule. You have your best players, and Petr

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Cech is a massive personality and a winner. They have a back three who

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have never played together, but having that voice and presence

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behind them in Petr Cech, to change that innocent cup final is very

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strange. -- to change that in a cup final is very strange. It's almost

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like he stacked it against himself. He hasn't got the central defenders

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he wants, and then he brings on Ospina. In the first leg of the

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Champions League he had a nightmare, but he hasn't let them down since.

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This is massive, Arsenal need this and I think Peter Petr Cech should

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have played. Is Arsene very stubborn? You played under him.

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Well, yeah. He is. He has been like that for years. But I genuinely

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believe in the last few months especially has been isolated and

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taken on everything himself. He hasn't got much help in somebody to

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talk with him. He ain't got no one, I believe, and that's why he looks

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isolated. You call it stubborn but I think it's incredible belief in his

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own ability. You look at the criticism around the football club.

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Yes, stubborn, but there is a mean and tough streak within him. I don't

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know about the rest of the team, but if Petr Cech has been dropped in a

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final, I wonder what they are thinking. No disrespect to Ospina,

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but I don't think it's the right message for the rest of the team.

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Time for a sideways look at cup finals gone by with Josh Widdicombe,

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Elis James, and some other comedian. This is a special FA Cup final

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version... I was checking my flies, sorry! Seriously! I love this

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already. Let's just keep this. I'm joined by two time FA Cup winner Ian

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Wright. Ian Wright is their! He has sent the supporters into ecstasy.

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And Elis James from the sitcom Josh. I've never won the FA Cup once.

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What's your favourite FA Cup memory? Charlie George. I'm going to give

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you three FA Cup final. Take it in turns to name players that played.

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The first one to get a player Ron loses. Best of three. If you get a

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substitute you can go again. If Elis James loses, you will be wearing a

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full England kit on television in front of your nation. Ian Rush will

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probably be watching. Ian Wright will wear a Chelsea kit at Wembley

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on the day of the FA Cup final. A full kit? I think blue is your

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colour. Blue is not my colour. Are you ready? No. Di Matteo. De Goey,

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the goalie? Incorrect. Oh no! David Seaman. Freddie Ljungberg.

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Ashley Cole. Bergkamp. Henry. Correct. Silva. Incorrect. He's much

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better than I thought he would be, Elis James. This is to save yourself

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from total embarrassment. Roland Nilsson. A curveball to start!

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Palmer. Worthington. Waddle. David Hirst. Mark Bright. To throw one in,

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Ian Wright. That took a while. Andy Linighan. Paul Warhurst. John

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Harkes. Tony Adams. I just went Welsh and new! Kevin Campbell.

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Graham Hyde. He was a substitute, go again. King. ... Unbelievable! That

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means the winner, 2-1 to Elis James. (BLEEP) hadn't realised how

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competitive a former professional footballer would be. Elis James,

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congratulations. Ian Wright, enjoy the cup final. Thanks for nothing.

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You will look beautiful in the Chelsea kit. A hand of friendship

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across London. You should sing Abide With Me in the Chelsea shirt. What

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was your single? The Wright stuff? You're out of order. STUDIO: I'm not

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wearing it! They cut a lot of my stuff out in, I did better than

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that. Frank Lampard on the back, I might wear it. Think how many more

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goals you would have got. Can't even imagine. We can hear from a man who

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knows what it is like to score an FA Cup final winning goal.

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Aaron Ramsey. The first thing he said when he walked out on the pitch

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was wow. That's to do with the heat. What difference will that make

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today? It's absolutely boiling here. We'll have to manage ourselves

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correctly today, go and press at the right moments. We have to be aware

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of the heat. You have been a matchwinner in FA Cup finals in the

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past. This is your winner against Hull from a few years ago. What does

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it mean that you personally know how to win here and Arsenal have won

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here recently. Does the history help? We have had great history here

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in recent years in the competition. We like playing here so hopefully we

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can have another day to celebrate. It's not been the best of seasons,

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your boss and the players have come under criticism. Do you feel as a

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group of players you owe him and your fans a performance today? I

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think we have let him down at times this season. He has stood by us and

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he believes in us. We only have ourselves to blame. But we do have

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something to hopefully finish the season off on a high and give

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something back to him, the fans and ourselves. The band are playing for

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you behind us. Enjoy your day today. STUDIO: Another man at the heart of

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the midfield battle will be the Footballer of the Year N'Golo Kante.

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A key man in Chelsea Pitman title success, just as he was for

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Leicester last season. -- a key man in Chelsea's title success.

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N'Golo Kante was born in Paris but grew up in the west suburbs of the

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city. Not the most dangerous council estate, but still a council estate

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with a huge sense of community. Mum was a cleaner and that was a refuse

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collector in a very religious community. His dad died when N'Golo

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Kante was 11. He stayed introvert. Started playing football. There is

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an amazing picture of him winning player of the tournament. In the

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picture all the other boys are lifting his trophy and he's standing

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at the side, showing his humility. No club came in to sign him, which

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is weird. Koscielny, Giroud, Rick Perry, they

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all went through the lower leagues before making it to the big time. --

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Franck Ribery. When he broke into the first-team, he was good.

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I don't think I've seen a player with so many Man of the Match awards

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in a row than N'Golo Kante in the second division in France. What

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amazes me is Kante was setting such standards in the French league for

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interceptions and tackles that others weren't on the case sooner,

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but Leicester had the jump on everyone else. Leicester said, we

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are the English version of your current team. We want you to do the

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same thing for us as you do now. They the right words to get him to

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sign. He was the perfect player for Leicester at that time, and for

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Ranieri and the way he wanted to play, for Jamie Vardy, Riyad Mahrez,

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and those players. He passed his A-levels and got a

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degree in accounting. He good BA accountant if he wasn't -- he could

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be an accountant if he wasn't a football right now. I think the

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proof of Kante's importance has been this season, in what Leicester lost

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and what Chelsea gained. He felt ready after just a year, like two

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years in France, ready for the next step. And every next step, he

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delivers. Winning the Premier League, playing in the Euro rose for

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France as well, showing everybody that they got it all wrong. I think

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for him, it's sweet revenge. Nobody believed in him when he was a kid,

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despite being good, people said he was too small or not good enough.

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But look where he is now. From when he started in that council

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estate where he got with Leicester and where he is getting now with

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Chelsea, I think he deserves it all. It's a wonderful story. STUDIO: He's

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got a degree in accountancy. Check out these numbers, winning more

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games than anyone else in the last two seasons, more tackles and more

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interceptions than anyone else in the last two seasons. Remarkable

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talent. I bet he has covered more ground as well. I have never seen

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anyone in my football career cover as much grass in a 90 minute game as

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he does. Even at the end of the game, I'm sure he could do exactly

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the same again. There's no denying Eden Hazard's ability, but he's had

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his best goal-scoring season this season. We know he can do this, he

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has done it all season, stuffing out of moves from the off position.

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Going forward, interceptions in front of the back three. This is

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brilliant, winning it three times in the move. Passing, winning it back

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again. Passing again. Losing the ball and time and time again, this

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fella has done this. What enables Hazard to do is that he doesn't need

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to track back. He can win this, superb pass. He wins the ball and

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can play at forward to Hazard. Hazard doesn't have the same

:28:12.:28:15.

responsibility, giving him the freedom to stay up front. I know

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there is still a hell of a lot to do when he wins the ball here, but he

:28:19.:28:23.

wins the ball, sets his team on the front foot, and he wins it in vital

:28:24.:28:29.

positions. He hasn't done this too many times, but this was in the

:28:30.:28:33.

quarterfinal against Manchester United to set them on their way. I

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don't think it's a coincidence that Azpilicueta, Gary Cahill, David

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Luiz, they have had their best seasons in football, I think.

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Looking back to last season. Who had their best season? Wes Morgan,

:28:49.:28:52.

Robert Huth, Mahrez and Drinkwater, going forward. He has played a huge

:28:53.:28:58.

part in Leicester's success and the individual success of other players,

:28:59.:29:03.

and in particular Eden Hazard. You played with Claude Makelele, who he

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is often compared to. Better or worse, how do you compare them?

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Makelele was a great player, but he is something extra. Makelele

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patrolled in front of the back four, but he never really went forward to

:29:18.:29:21.

unleash himself. I think Kante has that ability. In terms of the

:29:22.:29:27.

Chelsea team, that is there a difference. They were pedestrian in

:29:28.:29:31.

passing last year. But Kante has added energy in a team that has gone

:29:32.:29:36.

right through them. He's an absolute pest to play against. One of the

:29:37.:29:40.

instances, might have been against West Ham, where he anticipated the

:29:41.:29:45.

past that was going to the right-winger. He gets a lot of stick

:29:46.:29:48.

for not being technically good, but he's fantastic! He has everything.

:29:49.:29:53.

but it's a huge ask. Not started a game, Mertesacker.

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What a first season too with Chelsea it's been for Antonio Conte. A very

:29:55.:30:00.

good player who has become an even better manager.

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Antonio Conte was with us in Juventus. He understood really well

:30:19.:30:24.

tactics of the game and I think he is the same as a manager. He is very

:30:25.:30:28.

good at getting inside players' minds and can get them to play with

:30:29.:30:33.

humility, pride, aggression, intensity. He was looking for

:30:34.:30:39.

something new. For me he is the best in the world.

:30:40.:30:45.

The most important teams for me is to be a team, every single player

:30:46.:30:52.

must put their talent into the team. I enjoy the season. We play

:30:53.:30:56.

different football. The system is different.

:30:57.:31:01.

Another philosophy, another type of football. He is completely

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different. Brilliant goal. Look what it means on the Chelsea bench.

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It's my first season. To win in this league, I am really proud.

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Arsenal have said that you are favourites t seems to be widely

:31:31.:31:33.

perceived that Chelsea are the favourite in the press, does that

:31:34.:31:39.

sit comfortably with you? I think in this type of game it's very

:31:40.:31:44.

difficult to tell if there is one favourite. I think for the

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motivation Arsenal could have something more than us, but for this

:31:53.:32:00.

season we work very hard in this week on the pitch. Also in the

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mentality to try to understand this game, we must keep great

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concentration. But I am sure my players want to do this. You said

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they may have motivation, was that your biggest challenge, to get into

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the right mental frame of mind after winning the league? Yeah, it's very

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important to keep the right concentration because when you win

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this league in this way, yeah, and the possibility to be bit relaxed,

:32:29.:32:35.

there is this, for sure. In this week we try to work very well, also

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in this aspect. Tell me the overriding emotion right now, is it

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excitement, nerves, anticipation? Yeah, I think a mix of all these

:32:47.:32:52.

emotions. For me it's my first final in England and yeah, I am enjoying a

:32:53.:32:57.

lot of this, there is a lot of excitement. But also I have great

:32:58.:33:04.

concentration because the final you have to play the final, to try to

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win. I hope you can enjoy it as well. Thank you very much. Good

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luck. Thank you very much. Not only his first final in England as a

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manager but he has never won a major final. Runner-up in 2012 with

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Juventus. This will be a first for him. What a fabulous start to the

:33:21.:33:25.

season he has had. Everyone has looked at his tactics but his

:33:26.:33:29.

man-management skills have been good too. Obviously, he took a team in a

:33:30.:33:34.

bad place. A very talented group and there were some individuals in there

:33:35.:33:38.

and you wonder where they're at, Hazard had, probably had his worst

:33:39.:33:43.

season in a Chelsea shirt. Costa. Mid season there were rumours and

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probably more than rumours, that Costa was maybe a problem on the

:33:48.:33:50.

training ground and he dealt with it and flushed it out. By the sounds of

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it, he gave a bit of iron fist and dealt with it. Costa is hard for

:33:58.:34:02.

anyone to manage. John Terry on the sidelines. Fabregas. Sometimes all

:34:03.:34:06.

you want is honesty from a manager. He laid it on the line with John,

:34:07.:34:11.

this is how it's going to be, John reacted well. With the group he has

:34:12.:34:15.

managed it. Someone with the experience of John Terry and a lot

:34:16.:34:19.

of power he has at Chelsea, but when you are winning football matches as

:34:20.:34:23.

the manager has done for the vast majority of the season that's an

:34:24.:34:26.

easier situation to handle rather than results going against you.

:34:27.:34:32.

Costa the player. I like him. I am a huge fan of his. I tell you why,

:34:33.:34:35.

because part of the job as a centre forward is to walk off a pitch

:34:36.:34:41.

knowing that you have upset the centre halves. That you have given

:34:42.:34:45.

them a tough time. You do not want centre halves walking off the pitch

:34:46.:34:48.

thinking I have had an easy job today. Rarely in this Guy's career

:34:49.:34:53.

and in games that defenders will do that, he is a bully. He is push you

:34:54.:34:57.

around. He can have a fight with you. But he has ability. He can hold

:34:58.:35:01.

the ball up. He can bring his teammates into the game. He has a

:35:02.:35:07.

nasty side to him which... All of that. But at the end of the day he

:35:08.:35:12.

has ability. He can score goals. He is a real handful. He strikes me, I

:35:13.:35:17.

have seen a few clips of him off the field, he is probably actually quite

:35:18.:35:21.

an enjoyable bloke to have around in the dressing room. Yeah, I get that

:35:22.:35:25.

impression. He makes me laugh. I love watching, he makes me laugh

:35:26.:35:28.

when you see incidents like that. You can see once they won the title,

:35:29.:35:33.

he is obviously lively in the dressing room. The boys react to

:35:34.:35:36.

him. I love him. I do love him. Only because he winds defenders up, like

:35:37.:35:43.

you did. Is he a good chap? He is, he is great in the dressing room.

:35:44.:35:48.

Two faces, one on the pitch. If he is angry, and talking about his

:35:49.:35:52.

future, if he doesn't want to be at the club next year it might not be

:35:53.:35:55.

so good. Big decision for Chelsea in the summer. Chelsea fans haven't had

:35:56.:36:00.

much to complain about this season. It's been a different story for The

:36:01.:36:04.

Gooners in a tumultuous campaign. No one has kept a closer eye on events

:36:05.:36:11.

at the Emirates, here is Robbie Lyle. Arsenal and Chelsea, looking

:36:12.:36:15.

forward to the game. If we can pull this off and win this game, manager

:36:16.:36:20.

stays on for you? No. Winning this only papers over the cracks. Doesn't

:36:21.:36:24.

make up for the season that we have had. It's poor, every single year.

:36:25.:36:29.

Every year. So, it doesn't paper the cracks. So you don't think he should

:36:30.:36:34.

sign a new deal? No, absolutely not. He should not be signing a new deal.

:36:35.:36:38.

What about you? It will be a great achievement if he won today. A

:36:39.:36:44.

record, 13 times. It will be a record. He would beat George Ramsay

:36:45.:36:49.

who won seven, eight times. Incredible manager, we are lucky to

:36:50.:36:53.

have him. Hopefully sign a two-year contract and... Can he sign a new

:36:54.:36:57.

deal? He was poor in the league. He was noor the Champions League. Is

:36:58.:37:04.

this like, like he was saying, paper over the cracks? You have to look at

:37:05.:37:09.

the job of all. And what he has done. He has been a magnificent

:37:10.:37:14.

manager for halfway through, but listen any team that has the

:37:15.:37:24.

invincibles, 1888 when Preston North End did it, only played 12 games. Do

:37:25.:37:28.

I need to go on? Best scenario for you today? Win the game, Arsene

:37:29.:37:35.

Wenger says goodbye. The team we are playing sacked their most successful

:37:36.:37:39.

manager and they're on to win the double. The fans are singing they

:37:40.:37:46.

want him to stay, sums it up. Best scenario? We win. Two opposites

:37:47.:37:55.

here. The main thing is we all want Arsenal to win today. Let's get this

:37:56.:37:59.

victory. He really does divide opinion. A win

:38:00.:38:04.

today will see Arsene Wenger overtake George Ramsay. He will

:38:05.:38:08.

become the most successful manager in FA Cup history with seven. The

:38:09.:38:14.

first of which was in 1998. He spoke to Dan Walker. Thank you for talking

:38:15.:38:18.

to us. A chance for you personally to make history today winning a 7th

:38:19.:38:22.

FA Cup. No manager has done that before. That would be a significant

:38:23.:38:27.

achievement. Well, you want in my position, you want to do it, you

:38:28.:38:34.

have worked hard to get here. You want just to win the competition.

:38:35.:38:40.

For the club and for the team. Indirectly it will be as well I will

:38:41.:38:43.

be very happy if we do it. Talk about the team selection. The

:38:44.:38:47.

opposite number has had a relatively easy selection, you have had a few

:38:48.:38:54.

choices. Yes, because we lost three centre-backs in one week. Last night

:38:55.:39:02.

we lost Kieran Gibbs who had to go home sick during the night. So

:39:03.:39:06.

decisions were not so difficult because it's not many defenders

:39:07.:39:09.

left. This season, particularly this week, you have said that some of the

:39:10.:39:13.

criticism you have received has been a disgrace which are strong words.

:39:14.:39:20.

Do you feel that a win would silence critics today? No, I believe that

:39:21.:39:28.

99% of the Arsenal fans are fantastic people who stand behind

:39:29.:39:31.

the team and you want to play for them. OK. Enjoy the final. See you

:39:32.:39:37.

afterwards. Thank you very much. If you are wondering what Arsene Wenger

:39:38.:39:41.

is actually talking about on that particular thing about the disgrace,

:39:42.:39:43.

let's see what he said earlier on Football Focus.

:39:44.:39:49.

The lack of respect in some stages has been, for me, a disgrace. I will

:39:50.:39:55.

never accept that. I believe there is a difference between being

:39:56.:40:00.

criticised and being treated in a way that human beings don't deserve

:40:01.:40:05.

to be treated. Well, they are strong words, criticism against some

:40:06.:40:08.

Arsenal fans. Latterly he has made it 99% of them are absolutely onside

:40:09.:40:13.

and stuff. What do you make of that? I don't think you can ever deny the

:40:14.:40:18.

love and passion and what he has done for Arsenal Football Club. But

:40:19.:40:22.

I don't think there is any doubt of what's happened in the last three or

:40:23.:40:25.

four months with the indecision, whether he is staying or going, has

:40:26.:40:30.

hindered the football club, on the pitch. I think too many players have

:40:31.:40:36.

hidden behind that and used that as an excuse. Because of the position

:40:37.:40:39.

that they're finished in the league, then yeah, you are right, fans are

:40:40.:40:43.

divided. But there is no way it's helped the last few months. We might

:40:44.:40:47.

find out in the next few days why he has been keeping it back from

:40:48.:40:50.

everyone. Do you think some fans have been a disgrace in the way

:40:51.:40:55.

they've behaved? Yeah. Fans have a right to criticise. Of course they

:40:56.:41:03.

do. You know, you hear it a lot, 20 years, he has done more than enough

:41:04.:41:07.

in 20 years to be treated more respectfully than he has been,

:41:08.:41:09.

especially when you see some stuff on social media. Do you expect,

:41:10.:41:13.

rumours is that he will announce there is a two-year contract he will

:41:14.:41:16.

sign, do you think that will happen? I think he will probably sign, I

:41:17.:41:19.

don't think he will want Arsenal to be left out of the top four and

:41:20.:41:23.

maybe not winning this game today. It's not successful for him. Unusual

:41:24.:41:26.

circumstances where a manager seems to have the overall say. That seems

:41:27.:41:30.

to be the case at Arsenal. Yeah, I mean, I am with you, it's too

:41:31.:41:33.

negative around him and something has to change. If he stays, they

:41:34.:41:39.

need to placate fans and change structure, bring in a coach, change

:41:40.:41:42.

the line, it looks like they're stuck in a way and everyone else has

:41:43.:41:46.

moved on a little bit. That's what it looks like from the outside. Do

:41:47.:41:49.

you think if he was going to leave it would be better to go out having

:41:50.:41:55.

won this today? Yeah, I still believe that he, I hard him say not

:41:56.:41:59.

long ago he believes this team can win the league. Some people say he

:42:00.:42:03.

is delusional or whatever, the fact is that for somebody saying that,

:42:04.:42:06.

that doesn't say he wants to leave. I guess we will find out at some

:42:07.:42:11.

point. One man who has silenced critics this season is David Luiz.

:42:12.:42:16.

More than a few eyebrows were raised when the Brazilian defender returned

:42:17.:42:19.

to Stamford Bridge but he has been a standout performer.

:42:20.:42:27.

# I can see clearly now the rain has gone...

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David, this season has been fantastic for Chelsea. But for you

:42:51.:42:54.

in particular it's been brilliant. What was the reason for coming back?

:42:55.:43:01.

My dream, it was my dream to win the Premier League. My first here I

:43:02.:43:04.

didn't get to win. Many people didn't understand why I come back. I

:43:05.:43:12.

had a great life in France, great club. But I think if you don't take

:43:13.:43:16.

a risk in life you never test something new. I wish to test

:43:17.:43:20.

something new and that's why. There's been some ex-players who

:43:21.:43:23.

have commented on the fact that you seem to have matured since you have

:43:24.:43:26.

come back to Chelsea. Do you think it's a fair comment? I want to be

:43:27.:43:34.

more mature every day, if I think I know everything, this is so bad. So,

:43:35.:43:38.

I try to improve every day as a person, as a brother, as a son, as a

:43:39.:43:41.

player, whatever. I try to improve. I love to learn. I think this is the

:43:42.:43:47.

right way if you want to be a nice person. My mum, my dad, my family, I

:43:48.:43:53.

think they are everything for me. When I left my family when I was 14

:43:54.:43:58.

and they supported me always, doesn't matter if it's so far or

:43:59.:44:04.

not, they always were present in my life and now I bring them when I

:44:05.:44:08.

can. Of course they bring luck, positivity and energy, positive vibe

:44:09.:44:12.

and it's nice to have them near me. I know that you are quite close to

:44:13.:44:17.

some of your teammates and Diego Costa in particular. I have a great

:44:18.:44:22.

relation with him, I love him, I love the way he is. Nice

:44:23.:44:27.

personality, he has amazing history. He is a great person and great, it's

:44:28.:44:30.

better to play on his side than against him.

:44:31.:44:35.

He is so different off the pitch and on the pitch. Yellow he's still ugly

:44:36.:44:42.

off the pitch! But it's true he's totally different. And Willian. He

:44:43.:44:50.

has been my great friend since I was eight. And your neighbour. He can't

:44:51.:44:54.

live without me, that's why I came back! A piece of quick thinking from

:44:55.:44:59.

David Luiz. The double, I think Chelsea just got

:45:00.:45:16.

it one time, so we need to do it with our feet on the ground, working

:45:17.:45:19.

hard. That's our way during the whole season. We have to play at a

:45:20.:45:25.

high level two win against Arsenal. It was Antonio Conte's first season

:45:26.:45:30.

in the Premier League. The first time you were working with him. How

:45:31.:45:36.

key was he to your success? He is a winner. He loves to watch football.

:45:37.:45:44.

He's a guy. He tells me I want to work high everyday. He said, are you

:45:45.:45:48.

ready. I said yes, that's why I came here. That's why he has done a great

:45:49.:45:52.

job in his first season. There are still things to do, big things to

:45:53.:45:57.

do. Let's try to win the FA Cup also. We have brought you a little

:45:58.:46:03.

surprise. A belated birthday gift from everyone. Thank you so much.

:46:04.:46:08.

Sideshow Bob! Thank you, BBC. STUDIO: We are very generous souls.

:46:09.:46:23.

David Luiz answering his critics. I think three at the back has helped

:46:24.:46:27.

him. It has. And with Kante in front, that has given them more

:46:28.:46:34.

security. And Azpilicueta as well has been there to help him. And Gary

:46:35.:46:39.

Cahill is having the season of his life as well. He has that protection

:46:40.:46:44.

in all areas. Speaking of Azpilicueta, or Dave, as they call

:46:45.:46:51.

him in the Chelsea dressing room, he has been remarkable. One of those

:46:52.:46:54.

unsung heroes, but he has made more passes in the Premier League than

:46:55.:46:57.

any other player this season. And he has been ever present. What I like

:46:58.:47:03.

about him is that he's proactive, trying to press into midfield.

:47:04.:47:07.

Recovering with pace and desire. He has no right to put him under that

:47:08.:47:12.

pressure to stop the goal. He has speed and perception. He knows where

:47:13.:47:15.

the danger is. You can get there early. He goes back from right back

:47:16.:47:19.

to covering central areas. He wants to get tight. When it is the ball is

:47:20.:47:24.

going behind he has the speed and awareness to get going early. And

:47:25.:47:28.

Paul Pogba is no slouch. At the end he has composure as well. He has

:47:29.:47:33.

made his own that position, between right back and centre-half. He

:47:34.:47:37.

recovers so quickly and he has grown. That composure, we haven't

:47:38.:47:41.

seen that from him before. We wonder if he has the height to play

:47:42.:47:44.

centrally, but he wins that through commitment. He knows where he needs

:47:45.:47:50.

to be. And he wants this to step into midfield, make the different.

:47:51.:47:54.

Gets it out of his seat, quality ball to Costa, whose scores. He has

:47:55.:47:59.

four assists this year from a centre-back. This is the goal that

:48:00.:48:03.

wins then the league. Coming from right wing. An unsung hero, but he

:48:04.:48:08.

has played every minute of every game this season. In a squad as

:48:09.:48:11.

squad as strong as Chelsea's with John Terry and Kurt Zouma breathing

:48:12.:48:17.

down his neck. The managers talking in the tunnel. Respect being shown

:48:18.:48:22.

for each other's abilities, skills and successes over so many years.

:48:23.:48:28.

Conte came out the other day and said how Wenger should be respected

:48:29.:48:31.

more for what he has done. I totally agree. We have seen from the fans

:48:32.:48:36.

that they want some form of change. Somewhere along the line, some form

:48:37.:48:40.

of change. The board or the manager, something has to change. 20 years

:48:41.:48:45.

since a foreign manager first won the FA Cup with Chelsea. Ruud Gullit

:48:46.:48:48.

was the man in charge. He is with Gabby Logan. 20 years and since he

:48:49.:48:55.

walked out at the old Wembley with Chelsea, who were on the precipice

:48:56.:48:58.

of a new era of winning trophies. The atmosphere today is as special

:48:59.:49:02.

as ever. Does it take you back? It was a fantastic day. I saw it as a

:49:03.:49:08.

kid and then to walk that long walk out of the tunnel, that was magical

:49:09.:49:13.

for me. Chelsea had scars on every single seat of the Chelsea fans

:49:14.:49:19.

here. -- had scarves will stop there is a sea of blue around us. You have

:49:20.:49:23.

crystallises between Chelsea and Arsenal. Chelsea are secure in

:49:24.:49:28.

themselves because they have already won something. On the other hand,

:49:29.:49:32.

they hope something happens. It's natural. A difficult season for

:49:33.:49:37.

Arsenal, if they want to get something out of this season, it's a

:49:38.:49:42.

trophy. Chelsea have already talked about a bit of complacency before

:49:43.:49:45.

the match, because they have won something. Maybe they could relax,

:49:46.:49:49.

but this could be the icing on the cake if they win this as well. It

:49:50.:49:54.

would be an historic double. Gary talked about it in the studio, what

:49:55.:50:02.

Conte can do with man management. Coming into a club that finished

:50:03.:50:06.

tenth, hardly adding to the personnel. Motivation shouldn't be a

:50:07.:50:11.

problem. He has a good team and they are all professional, but be aware

:50:12.:50:15.

of some players who might get a bit easy going. David Luiz could be a

:50:16.:50:20.

player like that, sometimes he's easy. But I think he's very

:50:21.:50:25.

energetic. He is on the team all the time. As long as you win, it's OK.

:50:26.:50:30.

And there comes a period also when things are not going so well, that

:50:31.:50:35.

could irritate some players. We saw it with Mourinho when Hazard had a

:50:36.:50:41.

difficult season. It all depends how you win and if you win. I know you

:50:42.:50:45.

are confident for a Chelsea win. Yeah, 2-1. This time next year, we

:50:46.:50:53.

will be just two weeks away from the Russia World Cup. Four world

:50:54.:50:57.

champions featuring today, Pedro, Fabregas, Mertesacker, and the man

:50:58.:51:01.

who divides opinion like few others, Mesut Ozil.

:51:02.:51:10.

I am proud of where I come from. It's my home, Gelsenkirchen. When he

:51:11.:51:21.

came to our school in 2000 he was just an ordinary school kid. You see

:51:22.:51:28.

in the classroom he was really focused on maths, English, whatever

:51:29.:51:31.

else. He was humble and shy. You wouldn't imagine he could be such a

:51:32.:51:37.

rocket, an explosion when he's on the pitch. A totally different

:51:38.:51:38.

personality. I played with him when I was, I

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think, five, and when we won the Game 10-0, he sometimes scored eight

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goals or something like that. He would dribble through opponents. It

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was great. His technique was great at this time. Especially his game

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intelligence. Always with his head up. Like Xavi or Iniesta. The same

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capabilities, scanning the players more than other players. You do

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wouldn't think he was 17 or 18. He was like he was 30. With his

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composure. A small guy, really shy. Kept trying to hide himself, didn't

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know how to talk to me. And then I saw how he played on the pitch.

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Amazing. Playing with Mesut Ozil, you have to be careful with what he

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will do. I told him, never put a bad ball in here, because I will kill

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you! Brilliant from Ozil! In many ways he's the perfect Arsenal

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player. He has the technique, the pace. He's not going to be the

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player who runs up and down the pitch and wins all the tackles and

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starts pumping his fists. Ozil, beautiful. A top team always needs

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players that try to play the through pass. It's normal and clear that not

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every through pass can reach the other player.

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When Germany won the World Championship in 2014, there were a

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lot of discussions going on between German football fans, where should

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Ozil play, couldn't he play better? I think sometimes it isn't fair to

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him. Because he does more in games and sometimes fans think. I think

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what Germany have done quite well is to create a system around him where

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he doesn't necessarily feel he has to do everything. I think that

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Arsenal sometimes it can look like he's not trying or not interested.

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But I think more often than not, it's down to a lack of organisation

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and direction as far as the whole team is concerned. Put him in the

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Real Madrid team, put him in the Germany team, and you see a very

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different Mesut Ozil. At Arsenal there are some good players, yes,

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but when you have played with Cristiano Ronaldo, it's much better

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when you play with Olivier Giroud somebody like that? People say he's

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the best player you can have at ten. Others say he is lazy. We talk about

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body language. I know this discussion. He's always like this,

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his face is like he doesn't want to play. But we know this is Mesut

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Ozil. Sanchez, could come back to Ozil. It

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does. It's three! There are times in every season in the last few years

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where he's been in touch with his potential and fulfilled it and

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people talk about him being one of the best players of his generation.

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But because we haven't seen it consistently throughout a whole

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season, I think there will always be that nagging doubt at the back of

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people's nines about just how good he is. -- people's minds.

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They either like him or they don't. Ian Wright? I do like him. It's

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quite interesting listing to Rafa Honigstein and his old team-mates

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talking about what he's like. When you watch him in games like this,

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against Sunderland when Sunderland were down, his energy and drive. He

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can murder teams like this. This is stuck. Look at him go. Great ball

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from Sanchez. Criticism that he is a flat track bully. These games

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against Sunderland, Stoke and Watford, the energy he has trying to

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get in. This was when Chelsea were not performing. Him and Sanchez were

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fantastic. Bielik brilliant, energised. He gets in there and does

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his stuff. What happens is when Arsenal are not playing well, he

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does things like that. People judge him by his reaction. He can close

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down closer there, but that's not what he's about for me. When you

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have the kind of players around him, like people say in the video, like

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Ronaldo at Real Madrid, he looks like a much better player. He got a

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lot of stick for this. But the way he plays and Howard he is, I know

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what he can create. I'm not bothered about that. Does he do enough? When

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you consider the goal against Chelsea was his first against a top

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six side, then no. Paying out money for him, you want him to perform in

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these games, massive games. Consistent enough? For me, a bit of

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a luxury. In the Premier League, you have to have 11 players. We had Di

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Canio, who was a luxury, at West Ham. But we knew we were average and

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he did the extra. He is world class and can change the game today. There

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is no denying that he has huge ability. I would just like to see

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him doing more in big games. When you mention the word flat track

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bully, one goal this season against any team that finished in the top

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half. That's not enough. I think he needs to do more in big games. What

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an opportunity to ram that down everybody's through today. The same

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can't be said of Alexis Sanchez? A very good player. I think he has

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been asked's best player again this season. -- Arsenal's best player.

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Down the middle, left, right, wherever. More often than not, he

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has come up with the goods, the goals, the assists. He is a very,

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very good player. He seems to like this place as well, Wembley.

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Remarkable record, six goals in five games for club and country here. Won

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all five of the matches as well? He could be the difference. You talk

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about Ozil, but this man, the pace he has got to dribble the ball, do

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something special. 13 of his goals for Arsenal have been outside the

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box. He can score from anywhere. He gets frustrated that some of the

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players around him are not as confused as he is. I think that is

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where his frustration comes from. -- not as enthusiastic. He will

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deliver, he will get something from this game, and that is something you

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cannot level at a lot of these players. Eddie Newton, representing

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Chelsea, Sol Campbell representing Arsenal. They are coming out to

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present the trophy. They wave to both sets of fans. There is the FA

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Cup that they are all chasing this afternoon. Such a strong favourite,

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Chelsea, quite unusual. Chelsea against Arsenal, you would think it

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would be quite even. That doesn't block to be the case, prior to

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