Episode 3 Holiday of My Lifetime with Len Goodman


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Childhood holidays. The anticipation seemed endless!

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The holiday itself? Well, it was over too quickly.

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So, in this series, I'm going to be reliving those wonderful times

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with some much-loved famous faces.

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This is a memory I will treasure!

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Every day I will be arranging a few surprises

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to transport them back in time.

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Please! No?

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-Come on, Len!

-Yeah!

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We'll relive the fun,...

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-A-ha!

-Whoa!

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Oh no! No!

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..the games...

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..and the food of years gone by...

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That's my boyhood in a bowl.

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-Oh!

-My boyhood in a bowl!

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..to find out how those holidays around the UK

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helped shape the people we know so well today.

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Tap dancing.

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Aaarggh!

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So, buckle up for Holiday Of My Lifetime.

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-Close your eyes.

-Yeah.

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And here we go.

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I'm on my way to meet a young lady who's been a household name

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since the mid-90s.

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She was born in Bury in Lancashire in 1976.

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Here she is as a wee one. Oh! Cute as a button.

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She was a natural performer from an early age,

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training at the Oldham Theatre workshop from the age of nine.

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In 1995, she joined a certain Yorkshire soap,

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winning Best Newcomer a year later.

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Shall I Dingle-dangle more clues?

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Get it?

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A few years later, she was in the frame

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to take over from Jeremy Beadle in a certain bloopers show.

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Do you know what? She got it!

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But it was when she put on her dancing shoes

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that she won everybody's hearts,

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earning her the title

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the people's champion.

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Well, if you haven't got it by now, you never will.

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Here's my gorgeous friend, Lisa Riley.

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I'm on my way to pick her up in this crazy Citroen BX,

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just like the one her mum drove

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all those years ago.

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Aw! Smiley Riley! Here comes your old mate Lenny Boy!

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Lisa was born in 1976 in Bury, Lancashire,

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to Cath and Terry Riley.

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Dad ran a printing business, while Mum was head of complaints

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at a travel company.

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Aged just 12,

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Lisa was spotted by a theatre agent

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who put her forward for acting roles.

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Her big TV break came in 1995,

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aged just 19, when she was cast as brash barmaid

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Mandy Dingle in Emmerdale.

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She then appeared

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on the crime comedy drama Hetty Wainthropp Investigates

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before turning her hand to TV presenting,

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taking You've Been Framed to audiences of 13 million.

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It wasn't long before she was gracing the Strictly dancefloor,

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where she danced her way to the semifinal.

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Since then she's become a familiar face on our TV screens,

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in dramas such as Waterloo Road and Moving On.

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Today I'm taking her back

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to a special holiday of her lifetime,

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and I can't wait till she sees the car we're going in.

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Look at the car!

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Ah! No way!

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Ah! It's the same one.

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-Oh!

-Lisa!

-Hello, Leonard.

-Give us a cuddle.

-Ah!

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-You been waiting for that?!

-Lovely...

-Lovely to see you.

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-What do you reckon?

-I can't get over it. It's like a flashback in time.

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How do they get hold of these things? It's incredible.

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I didn't think it existed.

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-To be honest, we don't let everyone know this, they're all mine.

-Oh. OK.

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They're all my cars.

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-I've got, you know, garages galore.

-A little stash?

-Yeah.

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So, where are we going?

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We are going to Bronte village, which is in Haworth.

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It's absolutely breathtaking. I think you're going to love it. Yes.

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-Haworth?

-Haworth, yes.

-You've got to say it like...

-'Owarth!

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-Drop the aitch. 'Owarth.

-'Owarth?

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-"Or, nor, daunt gore." Go on.

-Oh, no, don't go?

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You sound a bit gangsta!

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-"Or, nor, daunt gore!"

-Oh, no, don't go!

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-Well, it's a progression. Yeah.

-We'll go over it as we go along.

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-Now, what's the year?

-It's going to be 1992.

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Now, I can tell you that that was the year...

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-Prince Charles and Diana split up.

-Yes.

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-But, we... We are not splitting up, my darling.

-No.

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We are joined at the hip.

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That's the way I like it.

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To the west of Bradford and just south of Keighley

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sits the village of Haworth,

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or 'Owarth, as our Lisa would want me to say.

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It's also known as Bronte Village,

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as it was made famous by the poets and novelists

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Charlotte, Emily, and Anne,

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collectively known as the Bronte Sisters.

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They were authors of some real literary classics,

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like Charlotte's Jane Eyre

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and Emily's Wuthering Heights, back in the 1840s.

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Before any holiday begins, you must start on a journey.

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For 16-year-old Lisa Riley,

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it was a driving adventure she was already very familiar with.

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So this, actually, wasn't a holiday as such. It was a day trip?

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Yeah. It was a day trip that happened quite a lot

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throughout the year.

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It was, like, my little safe haven.

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So, what was the attraction about going to Haworth?

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-The fact that I'm such a drama queen.

-Right.

-As you well know, Len.

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And I've got this fairytale mind.

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And, of course, the Brontes.

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-Right.

-And I love the Brontes.

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-I think, literally, in my former life, I was Emily Bronte.

-Really?

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-Yes.

-So, there was Emily, there was Charlotte, and who was the other?

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-And Anne.

-Anne was the other one.

-Yes.

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It was just, the knowledge, what they did, these three sisters.

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They had this very mysterious life and it always interests me.

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The more I read, the more I wanted to learn about them and, obviously,

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when we get there, you can see that it's there for the taking.

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-There's so much you can learn about the girls. You know?

-Yeah.

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So, who would have been in the car with you?

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The normal outing in the car would be Mum driving

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and me in the passenger seat. I'm still in the passenger seat.

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-Now, at 39, I still can't drive.

-Right.

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My brother and my dad were dragged along a lot of the time.

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You know, you can tell with blokes,

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they want to be at home watching the cricket.

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-Do you know what I mean?

-Yeah.

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They don't want to be walking up cobbled streets, looking at culture,

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-like me and Mum do.

-No.

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-So, it always became a me-and-Mum thing.

-Right.

-I liked it that way.

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She liked the same things that I did and I like same things she did.

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-So we had great days out.

-Oh, how lovely.

-Yeah.

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It's an especially precious journey for Lisa,

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as in 2012 she sadly lost her mum.

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My mum was a firecracker.

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She was called Catherine. You know Catherine wheel at bonfire night?

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That's my mum. Spinning away. Big personality. Wonderful laugh.

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Lit up a room.

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Yeah, it literally is monkey see, monkey do with me and my mum

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and I'm proud of that.

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Within my career, it was a bit like she became my PA.

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So she'd come everywhere with me when I was on tour,

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when I was filming.

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-She was my backbone. You know?

-Yeah.

-She was brilliant.

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So, she was always there by my side and helping me

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all the time, which was great.

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For Lisa and her mum, 1992 was all about getting to Haworth,

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but there was a lot of other things going on that year, too.

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Nigel Mansell became the most successful

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British Grand Prix driver of the time.

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After being crowned World Champion, he announced his retirement.

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I've been driving for 30 years,

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I represented England at the age of nine in karts.

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Here I am, 30 years later, and, you know,

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perhaps I can say it, I think I am World Champion now.

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It was the end of an era

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for Prince Charles and Princess Diana,

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who formally announced their separation.

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Today, the couple had separate engagements,

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a pattern for the future as we now know.

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The Princess of Wales showed no sign that she knew about this

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afternoon's announcement.

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Reporters tried to ask questions,

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but the Princess ignored them.

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It wasn't a great year for the Queen, either,

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as she watched fire tear through her beloved Windsor Castle,

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causing around £37 million worth of damage.

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And making it all the way to number one in the UK charts

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were American pretty boys Charles and Eddie

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with their soulful hit...

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# Look into my eyes Can't you see they're open wide?

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-# Would I lie to you, baby? Would I lie to you?

-Oh, yeah!

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# Don't you know it's true Girl, I'm in love with you

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# Would I lie to you?... #

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I think that's enough of that.

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In fact we need a bit of bit of peace and quiet,

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and where better to take five than by these wonderful moors?

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-Eh?

-See?

-Oh!

-This is proper beauty. The views and everything.

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It's the way it's, like, so completely untouched

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and they keep it that way.

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I guess this is how you would have known it

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-as a young girl coming here.

-Absolutely.

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Me and Mum, rather than take the motorway route,

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we'd take the scenic route, we'd pull in here, literally,

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and just sort of embrace that.

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-Yeah.

-Don't you find it really romantic?

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-Of course it is.

-I do.

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You know, you look at this and you can understand the Brontes

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-getting that romantic feeling in their stories.

-Absolutely.

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And the mystery of the moors.

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You can imagine it, a cold winter's night

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and that's what portrayed all the time. It's amazing.

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-And the lovely little farmers' cottages.

-Yeah.

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And all the heather.

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That's what I was saying, like, I always envisaged

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having this basket on my arm and, like,

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running through the heather and everything.

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-It'd be fantastic.

-Yeah.

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And you pray that it's, obviously, going to stay like this forever.

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Well, why wouldn't it? Who would want to come along and spoil it?

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Because it's just perfect.

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Patrick and Mariah Bronte moved to Haworth

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with their daughters in the early 19th century.

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At that time, it was unthinkable

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that the sisters could become published authors.

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But they had other ideas.

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Johnnie Briggs knows all things Bronte.

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They're middle-class clergyman's daughters.

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They have to earn a living

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and the living that's open to them is to be a governess.

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So it's when they come together in 1845

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and make the decision that they are going to take their own place

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in the world, through their own creativity

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and writing stories and selling them for profit.

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In order for them to take their place in the commercial world -

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the world belonging to men - they had to use pseudonyms.

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They had names of Currer, Acton, and Ellis Bell.

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They never said they were men,

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but that world will always assume that they are men.

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It is the moors, this wonderful landscape,

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that is the wild workshop of their imagination.

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It's the elemental forces of nature that rage around

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this wonderful landscape

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that become the backdrop to the characters and stories.

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When the Brontes first moved to Haworth in the 1820s,

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they lived here in a building called The Parsonage.

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It's now a museum dedicated to all things Bronte,

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and is the first place to go for any Bronte fan.

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It was top of Lisa's list when she came here, back in '92.

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Oh-ho! Lisa!

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Oh, look! See, it's how I remember it.

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Oh, it's just amazing.

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-It's hard to imagine that they would have been in this garden.

-I know.

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-You know? It's just...

-Oh, look!

-Incredible.

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-Sir, could I align you in, please?

-Never!

-Come on, sir.

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-Please, enter the house.

-Catherine, please.

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Oh, thank you, sir.

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Love it!

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The Parsonage has been lovingly restored

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to how it would have been when the Brontes lived here.

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They've even got the original furniture the family used.

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The dining room is usually cordoned off,

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but I've managed to pull a few strings to get us special access.

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So, this is the dining room.

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The Bronte sisters must have sat here.

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-Well, in that chair.

-I know. I can't believe I'm here.

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As a kid, I stood behind the barriers,

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like, never being allowed to even go near.

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Now I'm sat at the table where the girls would have written everything.

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-It's amazing.

-Well, contain yourself.

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There something else just going to come in.

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-Oh-ho!

-Oh, Len!

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The first edition Wuthering Heights.

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This is normally in a cabinet and they're here.

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I really want to touch them.

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Well, you can't. You can look at them.

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-So, look, we've got Wuthering Heights.

-Yeah.

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All the first editions.

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-I can't believe it.

-You nearly touched them, then. Go on. No!

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-You know me.

-Naughty-naughty-noo-noo.

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I can't come here and not do that. This is, like, my idea of heaven.

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My ultimate favourite is, obviously, Wuthering Heights.

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You know, and my fantasy brain, me skipping through the moors.

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You know, wind in my hair. Just as Cathy would be there.

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Waiting, waiting for Heathcliff to just rescue me.

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Do you think it was your love of the Brontes

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and the books that got you wanting to act?

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I really feel that the Brontes really put it in my head

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to the literacy side and the performance side

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and me wanting to be them and to react and be the actress,

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you know, that they created in these brilliant books. Yeah.

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I think it really put me on the map.

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-As a child, were you always in sort of an acting fantasy world?

-Yes.

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Dressing up?

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When I was a kid, everything was fantasy and, literally,

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I'd put my grandma's heels on.

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I loved the clanking of the heels, being like a dolly, and everything.

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Everything was fairytale and a performance.

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That's what I loved. All the time.

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Again, that's what drove me then to join drama school.

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It was inevitable.

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I want to recreate that early childhood Bronte passion.

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and I've got the perfect way to do it.

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I thought, maybe, we could re-enact a scene from Wuthering Heights.

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-Oh! Amazing. Yes.

-So...

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Oh, I love it! I love it! It's like dressing up!

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Look at you. See?

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This is a wee bit small for my size.

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-Oh no!

-Do you love it?

-I love doing it. Honestly!

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-Could I be one of the sisters? Literally.

-Yes!

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I've got some script here.

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I have not broken your heart. You have broken it.

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Do I want to live? What kind of living would it be? When you...

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Oh, God!

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Would you have to... Shut up! This is serious. I'm not having it.

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-Loving it.

-No. You've ruined it.

-Yeah. Sorry.

-So...

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And the Bafta for best interpretation goes to Len.

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-So, we now go to the pink bit, which is you.

-OK.

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"Oh, let me alone, let me alone," sobbed Catherine.

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That's the narrator, "But I've done wrong,

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"I'm dying for it. Is it love?

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"You left me too, but I won't upbraid you. I forgive you.

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"Forgive me."

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SHE GASPS

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-It's like real! That was like, really proper.

-Yeah.

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"It is hard to forgive.

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"And to look at those eyes and feel those wasted hands.

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"My answer, kiss me again and don't let me see your eyes."

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Oh!

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-I was going to give you a full-on...

-Ah, snog!

-No, I'm not.

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'It was like we were back in the 1800s, but, do you know what?

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'I think I'll stick to my dancing.'

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Now, no holiday is complete without sampling the local food.

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When Lisa and her family came to Howarth in 1992, there was

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one place they'd always visit.

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-So, was this the tearooms you came to?

-Absolutely.

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You can't come to Howarth and not have a lovely pot of tea

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and a little treat, as well.

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-We'd always come somewhere like this every time we came, yeah.

-Yeah?

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When did you get your first big break?

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My first big break was, obviously, Emmerdale, playing Mandy Dingle.

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-Oh!

-Yeah, when I got Mandy, literally, I was put on the map.

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You know, brilliant storylines,

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met brilliant actors that I got to work with.

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And Mandy was only for one episode, you know, originally.

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Only one ever for one, yeah.

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-You were there for one episode and you did seven and a half years?

-Yes.

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So, they brought me back and brought me back again.

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And they said, "Do you want a year's contract?"

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Of course, I said yeah,

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-and there I was, seven and a half years later...

-Ah!

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..with, as I'm told, one of the most popular soap

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-characters in history, which I'm very proud of.

-Yeah.

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Yeah. It was crazy, Len, honestly.

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I remember, at the time, going into my local supermarket,

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and, literally, cos it was my storyline,

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my face was on the front cover of every single TV magazine.

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-Yeah.

-And, of course, my life flipped from that very day.

-Yeah.

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-Do you fancy a cake?

-It'd be rude not to.

-It would, wouldn't it?

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SHE LAUGHS

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-I'll just call for the cake, I think.

-Oh.

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Cake? Cake! Cake time, please!

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Bring on the cake!

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-You have such power, Len.

-I know.

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'Ho-ho-ho, yum, yum, pig's bum, you can't have none!'

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-Oh, look at that!

-Oh!

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Heaven, heaven on an actual tray.

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What was your favourite moment on Emmerdale?

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Oh, favourite moment on Emmerdale...

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There's so many, after all those years. But, I have to say,

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because it's, of course, what the public wanted as well,

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was when they married Mandy and Paddy off.

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The writers tormented it and tormented it, over and over again.

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You know, we broke up, got back together and then, finally,

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they married us off.

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And true Mandy style, where did I spend my wedding night?

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-In prison, of course I did.

-Yeah, of course.

-Of course I did.

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Yeah, so, that's definitely my favourite moment.

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But, after Emmerdale, Lisa went on to even greater things,

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hosting one of ITV's biggest entertainment shows.

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Of course, You've Been Framed, you thought Jeremy Beadle.

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-Yeah.

-And suddenly, he's gone, so it must have been a bit of anxiety.

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Of course, the pressure was on.

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You know, it's prime time, Saturday night.

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Taking over from Jeremy Beadle,

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who'd done brilliant on the show and it was very successful.

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So, yeah, I went out there, was myself, had a ball, loved every

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minute of it and the next thing, the figures of the show soared.

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-Ooh, come on!

-And everybody accepted me. Yeah, it was brilliant.

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The pressure was off then, so it was like, everyone's accepted me

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doing the show, so keep going as I can. It was ace.

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Almost as ace as this lovely spread.

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Well, this area is steeped in literary history, isn't it?

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And our Lisa was obviously inspired.

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'And, now, we've seen her in dozens of challenging

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'and intriguing roles.'

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So, you know, there you are on Emmerdale, right.

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-You're there for seven years, or so.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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-It was pretty secure.

-Yeah.

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And yet, you said, "No, I'm going to move on."

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-Yeah.

-That's a really brave thing to do. What made you want to do that?

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Curiosity, from what I was taught at drama school, that there

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are hundreds of thousands of scripts out there to be read,

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you know, hundreds of thousands of parts to be played.

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There's so many elements - hosting, radio, film -

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within in our industry, you know, dancing...

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-Yes.

-..that we can do.

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Yeah, but you didn't take the easy option, you've done some

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pretty hair-raising and dangerous parts, really, haven't you?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They're real people. I like playing real characters.

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My proudest moment was, certainly, when I did Fat Friends.

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When I got this call that they had this part in mind, of Rebecca,

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very tragic soul, self-harmer and all that.

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And it was that deglamorization and I wanted to get in there, with

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-the glasses, looking horrendous, but that's the person she was.

-Yeah.

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That was the character.

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And when your peers ring you up and go, "Do you know what, Lis?

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"You did good there."

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-That's...

-Yeah.

-That's... Money can't buy that.

-No.

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-That's a really special, special thing.

-Yeah.

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I'm in Yorkshire with Lisa Riley,

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retracing her childhood holiday of 1992. Inside the St Michael

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and All Angels' Church is the Bronte Memorial Chapel.

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It was here that Patrick Bronte, the father of the sisters,

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worked for over 40 years. He was a campaigner and secured clean water

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for residents and also built a Sunday school.

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Well, of course, this is the church where the Brontes used to pray

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-and their father was the minister.

-Yeah.

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This place, more than anywhere in Bronte village, means

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the most to me, cos it's the one I'm so connected to with my mum here.

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-Yeah.

-Like, more than anywhere.

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-And, also, obviously, the Bronte girls are buried here.

-Yeah.

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I think whenever you speak to people, friends and family

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of mine that have been to Bronte village, the first thing they say is,

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-"Did you go to the church?"

-Yeah.

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The first thing, because of the history here and the fact that the girls are laid here.

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-Yeah.

-And, as a family, the leader of the pack, you know, was the dad.

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-This was his workplace.

-Yeah.

-You know, day in, day out.

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-And there is a little plaque down the bottom there.

-Yeah.

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-Shall we go and have a look?

-Yeah, come on.

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So, here we are, Len. This is the plaque.

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Obviously, Emily and Charlotte.

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-Yeah, and they were so young, weren't they?

-Yeah.

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-Emily's 30.

-Yeah.

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And Charlotte is nearly 39.

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-Yeah, it's very cold in the north, Len.

-Yeah.

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They got cold very, very quickly.

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I think this chapel is a very special place for you.

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Yeah, I think the girls lost their mum from a very young age

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-and they were successful and I lost my mum.

-Yeah.

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Coming here with Mum, it's very close to my heart,

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-so I have a real sense of belonging here. It's lovely.

-Yeah.

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You know, I used to go with my mum to the seaside, to Broadstairs.

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And whenever I go there now, I always feel a bit closer to my mum.

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I do, I know. There's a real feeling I've got today

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and that's what I love about it. Because the memories that

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you've given me, by not only coming to Haworth and Bronte village,

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but here, especially, the chapel, means the world to me.

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It was mine and my mum's little safe haven.

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-Yeah, it's lovely.

-Thank you.

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Haworth really does have emotional memories for Lisa,

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but there's something she didn't get to do when she came here in '92.

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The Keighley and Worth Valley Railway runs through

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the heart of Bronte country and was opened in 1867.

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It's now preserved as a heritage railway line.

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Teenage Lisa didn't get to appreciate it back in '92,

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but I think we can make up for that today.

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Ho-ho-ho! Oh, I've got a treat in store for you.

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-Right, what's this?

-Oh, no!

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-Well, you know, I've loved it, we've done the Brontes.

-Yeah.

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Right, and I thought, "Let's do something maybe a little bit

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-"different."

-OK.

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The train. Now, Oh, no, not just any old train, the steam train.

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-Oh, lovely.

-Chugging along, through the Yorkshire Moors.

-Sounds perfect!

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-Come on.

-Shall we?

-Yeah!

-Fab, come on.

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'This steam-blowing beauty entered service in 1920

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'and spent 45 years thundering across the country.'

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Now, it's fully restored to its former glory.

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Look, "Built 1920."

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-There you are, in Derby.

-Yes.

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-Isn't that fabulous?

-Yeah, you can smell it, can't you?

-Yeah.

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-Aw, I love it.

-Look at that.

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Making it move still involved shovelling

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shed-loads of coal into the furnace.

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'But can Lisa and I do it as good as steam fireman Ralph?'

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-Now, wait a minute, Lisa.

-Yes.

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-20 seconds, who can shovel the most coal in?

-Oh, OK.

-Ladies first.

-Yes.

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-You ready, Ralph? Ready, Lisa?

-Yeah, I'm ready!

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And...go.

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Oh, it's heavy, it's heavy.

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Oh, see.

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Oh, it's well heavy!

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-Go on, Lis!

-Go on, see!

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-Go on, girl, get your back behind it.

-See.

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-Five...

-Oh, oh!

-..four...

-OK, OK!

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..three, two,

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-that's it!

-And how many was that?

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That was about 85 shovels.

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-A likely story.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-Come on, Len, how many was it?

-Move over.

-I got my hands dirty.

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Here I go.

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Oh, Len, that was just... I had five bits on mine,

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he's doing one by one.

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-I think we know who's won this already, don't we?

-Yeah, yeah.

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-Don't be vulgar.

-Not only have I won...

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-That's a proper amount of coal.

-Put your back into it, Leonard.

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LISA LAUGHS

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One thing, we may hoot the hooter?

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Yes!

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-Yeah, go on.

-OK.

-Don't burn yourself on that.

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TRAIN WHISTLE

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Oh! That was ace!

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It was supposed to be a little hoot!

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With the train fired up, no thanks to me, we're ready to go,

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so we'd better take our seats.

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And, while the gorgeous scenery goes by,

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we'll have one final chat about my mate Lisa's fascinating career.

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-Now, you've done TV...

-Yeah.

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..you've done stage, you've been on the television,

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which do you prefer, is there one that you love the most?

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What I love this most is the P word, and it's performing.

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Whether that be film, television, radio, telly, you know,

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I'm just so blessed to do what I love.

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People say, "What are you? Are you an actress?"

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Are you this, that and the other? And I'm just a performer.

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-Yeah.

-I love doing everything that the industry involves, really.

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-Yeah.

-And I'm blessed that I get to do it.

-Right.

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You've been in some massive programmes -

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is there anything you think, "If I could, I'd love to do..."

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-Something, or...

-Yeah.

-Yeah?

-My ultimate dream would be

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a period drama, it really would.

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You know, down in the kitchen, with the hair, with the mop cap,

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-the corset, no teeth.

-Yeah, yeah.

-I'd love to do something like that.

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-That would be great, it really, really would.

-Yeah.

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Well, we've touched on it before, do you think your day

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with your mum in Haworth helped to shape who you became?

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Oh, completely, because mum always let me be who I wanted to be.

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If I wanted to skip round the church and do little role-plays and stuff, she let me.

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Or stand outside the apothecary on the high street in Haworth, you know.

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-Yeah.

-She'd let me be silly and do these characters.

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-That set me up for the person I am today.

-Yeah.

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-Let me get out. Take my hand, madam.

-Aw!

-How was that?

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-Wonderful.

-Wasn't that great?

-A train journey with a true gentleman.

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-Oh, you and I.

-It's been amazing.

-Oh, it was like Brief Encounter.

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You were brief and I was an encounter.

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Exactly!

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Listen, I know you used to share this day with your mum

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and I hope, in a little way, I've taken over from your mum.

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It's been so, so fabulous.

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-It has and she'd be so proud, honestly, Len.

-Oh, great.

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-Yeah, thank you.

-Great.

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Now, talking of memory, this is a scrapbook of all our day together.

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Oh, wonderful.

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-So it's a book of memories.

-A lovely book of memories.

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For Lisa, a photographic memento of our trip to Haworth,

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which will help her remember our Bronte-inspired adventure.

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-Thanks a million.

-Thank you, darling. Aw, you're a gem.

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'It's goodbye from Haworth and the summer of 1992.'

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A truly special place that Lisa shared with her mum, that will

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remain forever in her heart.

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