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'Lake Ohrid lies between Albania, which I've just left, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
'and Macedonia, on which I'm setting foot. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
'I shall be heading east, through Macedonia's eye-catching scenery, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
'and on to the border it shares with Bulgaria. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'Then across Bulgaria into Turkey, and via Istanbul and Ephesus | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
'to Cappadocia on the Anatolian plateau.' | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
-Pretty spectacular up here. -Yeah? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
'With my friend Dimitar, I'm entering territory | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
'where even 4x4s fear to tread. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
'The rocky foothills of the Rila Mountains in western Bulgaria. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
'Dimitar is a member of an order called The White Brotherhood, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
'who hold an annual gathering in the starkly beautiful surroundings | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
'of an area they call The Seven Lakes.' | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
-I've just seen a lake. -Yeah. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
-Fantastic. -First lake. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
It's beautiful. This is... | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
-The first of the... -Seven lakes. -Seven lakes. -Yes. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
It's lovely. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:54 | |
COW BELLS CHIME | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
'It's been a long day's journey to get to this remote spot. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
'Well, as remote as a spot can be | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
'when there's 1,000 other people sharing it with you.' | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
This is the camp. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
It's like a... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
-small city, isn't it? -Oh, yeah! | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Up there, all of those tents perched very precariously. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
'I didn't sleep much last night. By the time I nodded off, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
'everyone else was getting up for the sunrise, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
'which is very important to the White Brotherhood. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
'The summer solstice is the most auspicious time of year for them. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
'And this lofty mountain top is the most auspicious place to witness it. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
LOW SINGING | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
'The White Brotherhood was founded by a Bulgarian called Peter Deunov, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
'on whom the spirit of God descended on March 7th, 1897. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
'Non-smoking and vegetarian, it's a curious mix | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
'of Christian and Indian mysticism, with much talk of spiritual energies, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
'which are evidently abundant in these spectacular mountains. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
SINGING CONTINUES | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
'The climax of the day is what they call paneurhythmic dancing. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
'No bobble hats and anoraks here. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
'This is the White Brotherhood in all its glory.' | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
THEY SING | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
What is the aim of what you are doing here today? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
What is it really all about? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
It's about the peak of the summer. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Today is the peak of the summer. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
And... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
People are gathering today because it's a celebration for the brotherhood. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
Since this day is when you can receive the most of energies | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
from the sun. And... We come together, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
we dance the paneurhythmic. We have concerts. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
It makes us feel more close to each other, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
more like brothers and sisters. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
Is the paneurhythmic dancing, is that a way of achieving this harmony, this function? | 0:04:54 | 0:05:00 | |
Yes. This is the best tool we have for achieving the harmony. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:07 | |
Because, it's a union of three very important things. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Number one, that is the material, the moves. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
Number two, this is the words, you know the mind. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
It's words which are words about nature, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
about love, about harmony, about the spring, the energies. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
And also, it's the third thing, it's also the heart. You know, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
people are also working with their hearts, while being in the circle. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
It's a union circle. Uniting people. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
It's the symbol of the sun. And also, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
People are also working on their spiritual level. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
It's like a prayer in movement and dance. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Today was an extraordinary event. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
-Were you pleased with the way it went? -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
I think every year, it's becoming more and more harmonious. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:04 | |
What happened to the White Brotherhood during the Communist period? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
During the Communist period, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
it was hard for all spiritual work in Bulgaria. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
Because, you know, the only spiritual thing allowed | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
was worshipping the Communist ideal, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
the Communist principles, so... | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
It was not only the White Brotherhood, but also all kinds of | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
religious and spiritual movements were either forbidden... | 0:06:32 | 0:06:38 | |
At times they were persecuted. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
And... | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Or they have to hide. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
SINGING | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
What I like about the White Brotherhood is that they're not dogmatic. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
They may be excessively tolerant, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
But also this great event today, very spectacular, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
but a quiet spectacular. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
It's not been the blasted noise from PAs and loudspeaker systems | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
that seem to be so important these days. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
The other thing is, they talk a lot | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
about the feel of natural energy in an arena. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
I've never been sure about that. But here in the Rila mountains, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I think it actually really does actually exist. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
'After the elevated harmonies of the White Brotherhood, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
'mundane considerations like getting off the mountain | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
'bring us down to earth with a jolt. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
'Well, rather a lot of jolts, actually. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
'On the way to the capital, Sofia, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
'we detour to meet Stefan Kitanov, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
'who has, for many years, championed the work of Monty Python in Bulgaria. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
'Whether it's our fault or not, I don't know, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
'but his other great enthusiasm is the powerful local spirit rakia. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
'His father, who gave him the taste for it, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
'worked for a sports goods business, run by the state.' | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
My father was deputy director then. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
It was not possible for him to be director, because he was not a member of the party. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-Oh, I see, so he never got to to the top. -So, after he got retired, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
-he came here, and he escaped. -Yeah. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
It was very important during the socialism, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-people to have country house. -Yeah. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
So it was one of the aims for them. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-He grows absolutely everything here, doesn't he? -Basically, yes. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
But my father doesn't believe in trees which do not deliver fruits. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
-Oh, I see! -Because, from any type of fruits you can make rakia. -Yeah. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
-But, you see, the best rakia comes from these... -These plums. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:11 | |
-This is your father. -Yes. -Hello... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
'The ripe fruit is carted off to a couple of doubty 70-year-olds | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
'called Lubo and Seta. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
'In their garden shed, they produce a head-whacking double-distilled concoction. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
'Brewed in a copper still called a kazan, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
'and decanted into an attractive plastic bucket.' | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-Cheers. -Oh, well, cheers! -Nostravia. We say "nostravia". | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-Nostravia. -Nostravia. -Nostravia. -Nostravia. -Nostravia. -Nostravia. -Thank you. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
Oops! | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
Does the government discourage moonshine rakia making like this? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
-Is there any sort of disapproval of it? -You know, it's a very important part | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
of the life of the people. So the government doesn't want to interfere. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
Yes. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
It's a bit like opium poppies, or...! | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
HE SPEAKS BULGARIAN | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
-Nobody knows, and everybody has kazan! -Yeah! | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
'Sofia is one of Eastern Europe's most intimate and walkable capitals. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
'There are one or two grand buildings, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
'like the Alexander Nevsky church, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
'a memorial to Russians who died helping their fellow Slavs fight the Turks. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
'But, by and large, her leafy streets are on a human scale. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
'If you want to get around more quickly, there is, as throughout Eastern Europe, | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
'a ubiquitous tram system, which the Communists wisely kept and, indeed, actively encouraged. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
'Today, in pursuit of a wider cultural context, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
'I'm turning my back on cathedrals and churches. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
HE SINGS IN BULGARIAN | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
'This is Azis. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
'And he must have come as quite a shock to some of his fellow Bulgarians! | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
'In a predominantly conservative and homophobic country, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
'you couldn't be much more out of line than a gay, gypsy transvestite. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
'And as a result, he's wildly popular. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
'I meet him with Mya, a local film director, as our translator.' | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
Were you encouraged by others around you, your mother or father, to become a singer? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
HE SPEAKS BULGARIAN | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
His mother had some kind of sick ambitions... | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
..thinking that her child should be a mega-star. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Something like Elizabeth Taylor in her mother. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
But, in one moment, because of his... Because he is gypsy... | 0:12:43 | 0:12:49 | |
..all of the doors were closed in front of him. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
But that was before. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
You were born and brought up a gypsy, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Do you think the situation has changed for the gypsy community now? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
No. Actually not. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
They are still so dirty and so miserable as they were. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
When you were young, were you angry at the way you were treated as a gypsy? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
Yes. There were people who obviously did it. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
They rejected him because of his race. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
His mother took him to film castings... | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
..and nobody took him because of the colour of his skin, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
This is not a tan. It's the colour of his skin. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
He was born like that. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
'Despite his problems, Azis is one of the lucky ones. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
'Most gypsies live as close to the edge | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
'as the threadbare horses they're racing for pin money | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
'in Plovdiv, Bulgaria's second city. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
'I'm here with local girl Meera Stileva.' | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
They move pretty quickly! They're really fast! | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
'We're enjoying ourselves, even if no-one else is!' | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
What's going on? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
'The shouts and cheers belie uncomfortable facts. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
'85% of Bulgaria's gypsies are unemployed. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
'Only 10% of their children are in secondary education. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
'They live in a part of town dominated by canyons of Communist housing blocks. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
'Quietly going to seed.' | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
-All these blocks here are totally occupied by gypsies, or do they mix them? -No, they're not mixed. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
This quarter here is for gypsies. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
-Do they try to mix them ever? -Yeah. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
They try. There is another quarter in the south of Plovdiv. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
And every first floor, they put the gypsies, gypsy families. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
-And all of the other floors are settled Bulgarian families. -Yeah. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
And... A big spy in the door, you just have a hole, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
-and behind that there is a horse. -A horse in the apartment? | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Yeah, a horse in the apartment, and a fire in front of the block. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
-So, this didn't really work so well? -Not at all. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
But it's quite funny and interesting. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Do they like living in these blocks, or would they rather be living | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
-in the countryside? -If you spend some hours here, they're just out of the blocks. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
They never spend much time in the blocks. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
They're gathering coal together in front of the blocks, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
doing... music, singing, chatting. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Do ordinary...? I mean... | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
-Would other Bulgarians come here very often? -No. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Actually, no. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Hey! | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
'Despite the conditions, wherever there are gypsies, there will be music. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
'And where there's music, there will be a party. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
'I've been invited to sway along with the local's Women's Institute. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
'Some of them have come armed. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
'The gypsies of Plovdiv are not without friends. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
'There are groups working hard to improve conditions in ghettos like this. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
'But like gypsies all over Europe, these people cling tenaciously to their own way of life. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:58 | |
'Plovdiv is the last big city this side of Turkey. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
'And outside a local transport cafe, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
'I hitch a ride aboard of one of the many trucks heading for the end of Europe.' | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Oh! | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Oh! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
HE SPEAKS TO THE DRIVER IN BULGARIAN | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Ah... Turkey? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
-Istanbul. -Istanbul. -That will do me fine. Fantastic. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
Istanbul turn off. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
There's a title for a novel! | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
'It's a long straight drive down the E80, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
'across a flat featureless plain that will take me to the border, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
'then on to Edirne and Istanbul, before crossing the Bosphorus | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
'into Asia to Ephesus, and as far east as Capadoccia. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
'I asked the driver to drop me at the border, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
'because I want to see as much as I can of European Turkey, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
'which many people tend to forget about.' | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
This is the Turkish border which, of course, used to stretch | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
far into Europe, as far as Vienna at one time, under the Ottoman empire. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
The empire is now long gone but modern Turkey still wants to be part of Europe. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
'I take a taxi into the nearest big town, Edirne.' | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Hello. Edirne or bust. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
'There's nothing very beautiful to see at first. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
'Just another wind-swept frontier and another interminable line of traffic.' | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
Wow. People ask what the connection is | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
between Turkey and the rest of Europe. Just look at all these trucks... | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
for the answer. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
'There's certainly no evidence that Turkey is an under-developed nation. Quite the contrary. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
'It's the growing strength of the Turkey economy, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
'and the size of the place that worries people. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
'If Turkey joins the European Union, it won't be as a small country, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
'glad of the security, but as a giant | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
'with a population bigger than any other member state. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
'I'm beginning to wonder if I've made the right decision to stop off at Edirne. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
'But a 15th century stone bridge leading into town | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
'is just the first of a series of wonderful revelations. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
'Behind the mundane facade of a busy modern city, lies an impressive history. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:30 | |
'My guide, Selene Corcot, born and brought up in Edirne, is keen to show it off.' | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
I'm glad to have met you, because otherwise I think I would have just gone through Edirne | 0:20:45 | 0:20:50 | |
-and gone straight to Istanbul. -That would be a shame. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Because this city is full of so much culture and history. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-Yeah. -And the landscape is beautiful. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
The collection of buildings are just extraordinary. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And three very important mosques in walking distance and lots of bridges and rivers. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
'The man largely responsible for the glories of Edirne is Mimar Sinan, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
'whose work, more than any other, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
'expressed the might and magnificence of the Ottoman empire. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
'The Ottomans, a dynasty from eastern Turkey | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
'made Edirne their capital before they took Constantinople. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
'It was here, in 1569, that Sinam, in his eighties, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
'created what many consider his finest work. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
'The Selimiye Mosque is arguably Europe's most glorious example of Islamic architecture.' | 0:21:36 | 0:21:42 | |
Wow. That is such a... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
-Colossal. Colossal space, isn't it? -Amazing. -It's almost, sort of... | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
-dizzying. There's nothing in the centre... -Very spacious. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-It's all supported around either side. -Yes. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
When Sinam built this, he was quite an old man, wasn't he | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-He was 85 years old. -Yeah. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
This is why it's his masterpiece. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
We are very happy that he had a long, fruitful life. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
That is why we have more than 400 art pieces from him. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Is this considered to be one of his best? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
This is the masterpiece of Sinam. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
He achieved everything he was aiming. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
He tried to make it perfect, the dome as big as he wished. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:26 | |
'If the mosque represents the religious impact of the Ottomans, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
'the 500-year-old Beyazit Kulezi shows how important science was.' | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
I really wanted to show you this place. It's my favourite place in Edirne. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
It's lovely. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
It's a complex with a mosque and a hospital, and Bayezid built this complex | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
so that he could give the city a nice, advanced hospital. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
'Its centrepiece, now a museum, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
'is probably the first psychiatric ward ever built. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
Running water and soothing music | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
'were used to create a suitably therapeutic atmosphere.' | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
Water and all that. It's a peaceful feeling | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
-even before you start being treated? -Yes. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And the sounds of music. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Let me show you this patient's room, suffering from black love? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
-Black love? -Impossible love. Dark. -Oh. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Sort of unrequited.... Ah! | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-Lovesick. Melancholy. -Lovesick, yes. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Treated very nicely with New Age therapies in this room. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
-And he is... That's insane? -The insane one. So, they do share a room, probably. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
He doesn't look insane, he hasn't had a letter for a few days! | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
With a rose in his hand. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
-Very enlightened. -It is. Ahead of its time. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
In Europe, until the 18th century, it wasn't recognised, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
-mental illnesses. -Lock 'em up! -Yeah. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
'This far-sighted alternative to the madhouse | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
'failed to outlast the Ottoman empire. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
'When the Russians invaded in the 1870s, it was closed down. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
-'But our tour of the splendours of Edirne is not yet over.' -OK, Michael. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
That was good. Now where? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Now I want to take you on a traditional sight-seeing trip. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
-Oh! -With this carriage. I hope you like it. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
It's the real thing with the horses. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
A modern way to get about. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
It doesn't mean we are getting married? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
No, no, no. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
If you want! | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
SHE SPEAKS TURKISH | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
-Oh, wow! -Lovely, isn't it? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
This is the municipality building, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-and this is the founder of the republic, Ataturk. -Ataturk? -Yes. It's a very new republic. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
So, they're trying to... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
keep up with his ideas, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
and not to forget, so that religion and state is kept separate, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
so that we are a modern country. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Because he started the republic in the 1920s, after the end of the Ottoman empire. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
The end of the Ottoman empire, it was the the first world war, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
and we were defeated. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
-Yes. -So this part of the Edirne was taken over by Greeks. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
And then Ataturk just put up a | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
big war, and tried getting back all of the land. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
And then quickly had to make the republic. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
-What else did he do that was particularly significant? -He did so many things. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
For example, for us Ataturk is important as a woman, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
because we have the same rights as men. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Where are we going now? We are leaving the town. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
This is a surprise for you. There is a local wrestling, oil wrestling, right by the river. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
-It has a beautiful view. -What is it, oil wrestling? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Oil wrestling. It's a very traditional Turkish sport. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
It dates back to like 640 years of history. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
And wresters are called pelivanns. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-Pelivann? -Pelivann. -Pelivann. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
'The prospect of grown men and young boys wrestling while covered from head to foot | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
'in olive oil may raise a few smiles in the cricket-playing countries. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
'But here in Turkey, it's a very serious business. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
'As the drum and pipe band gets everyone in the mood, the olive oil is liberally dispensed. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
'It's important to get the oil everywhere, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
'both over and under the black buffalo-hide pants | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
'which are all the wrestlers are allowed to wear. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
'The youngsters are particularly keen. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
'They know if they're any good, there's money to be made in the oil business! | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
'As the band up the tempo and the grappling begins, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
'Selene fills me in on the rules of the game. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
'A bout is deemed to be over when one of the pair is flat on his back, belly to heaven. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:33 | |
'The pants can be used to get a grip as can the buttocks inside them, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
'but wedding tackle is strictly out of bounds. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
'The referees, ever vigilant, keep a careful look out for any slippery behaviour, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
'or rather, non-slippery behaviour. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
'The pelivann are all professionals, And in the height of the season, do really well. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
'What could get you arrested at Wembley can make a fortune in Turkey! | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
'Discovering Edirne has been a delightful surprise. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
'The sort of thing that gives travelling a good name. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
'But now it's time to see more of this country | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
'that straddles Europe and Asia. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
'As Edirne slips away, the local train takes me on towards Istanbul. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
'It's not the most glamorous way to approach one of the great cities of the world, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
'but there is a touch of gold at the end of the rainbow. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
'Our Istanbul terminal is the very same one | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
'that was built in 1883 for the world renowned train | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
'that connected Turkey with the rest of Europe, the Orient Express. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
'The famous old train doesn't come here any more. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
'But ghosts of the old days still linger at Sechecy station.' | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
There's something about arriving at Istanbul, it's one of the great destinations of the world. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
You know when you come here, it's a place of consequence. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Probably been at the heart of human affairs, this city, longer than ever. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
Of course, it's the end of Europe. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
For now at any rate. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
The Bosporus, touching Asia and Europe connecting Russia | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
with the Mediterranean, binds Istanbul together. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Wherever you are, it's always there. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
I meet Rafi, an art dealer, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
who recently brought a big Picasso exhibition here. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
He reminds me that Turkey's connections with Europe are nothing new. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
Don't forget that Istanbul was the capital of the Eastern rule. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:29 | |
When it was Constantinople. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
Right. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
And today, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
the people... | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
..we feel that we are in Europe, we have exhibitions in Istanbul. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:46 | |
Do you think the success of your Picasso exhibition | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
-is an example of things changing on a wider scale in Turkey? -Yes. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
Especially in the last 20 years, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
we start to change very quickly. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
So easy, the Western way. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Do you feel frustrated at all at the attitudes | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
of certain European countries towards Turkish membership? | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
If you want to come, even for a simple club member, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
you have to accept the main rules. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
What we did to become a member of the European Union. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:35 | |
-Yes. -But if the club start to create every moment different rules, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:43 | |
you don't feel comfortable. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
I think if Turkey joined, do you feel it would be a good thing, a bridge? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Yes. Exactly. Exactly. It's a very... | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
-More so than any other country, really. -Yes. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
Judging from the young Turks I see pouring in and out of the Sabanci Museum, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
there's no lack of curiosity about things European. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
Of course, it's a two-way process, isn't it? | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
You are not just talking about Turkey becoming more Westernised, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
-but the West being interested in the East through Turkey? -Exactly. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
Where we are here, right now, it's a very good place to explain this question. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:36 | |
-We have a silver brazier here. -That is what it is. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
And we have a painting, an anonymous painting, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
but we think it was made by a French artist at the beginning of the 20th century. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:51 | |
-Western ladies being brought tea and coffee by Turkish girls? -Exactly. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
It's a very good place to ask this question. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:01 | |
Do you think it will happen in your lifetime? | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
-Yes. -This Turkish membership? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Yes. I'm sure of that. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
You are a young man. That's a pretty safe answer. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Let's say 60 years old. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
For me, it's very young! | 0:33:14 | 0:33:15 | |
Istanbul is a place of drama not just for arrival but departure. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
You can't get much more sensational than going on one of the world's very few intercontinental ferries. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:44 | |
Europe to Asia. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
For about 50 pence. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
On the Asian shore, I'm to glimpse a more exotic side of Turkey. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
SHE SPEAKS TURKISH | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
Tanyeli is not just one of the country's most accomplished belly dancers, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
she is also a canny businesswoman, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
taking her product away from sweaty folky evenings for tourists and turning it into a cool global brand. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:21 | |
She has studios in Florida and Australia, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
has taught moves to Madonna and I'm here at her dance academy to see how she does it. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
It's a tough assignment! | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Which rather unexpectedly becomes a lot tougher. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
-I need to see your belly. -All right. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
I have to see your sexy belly. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
My sexy belly. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
You have to do... Come here. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:58 | |
I won't be able to do this. I just know. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
I'm culturally and physically... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
SHE SPEAKS TURKISH | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
When you do the belly dance, it works, breathe in and take your muscle in. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
Now you breathe out. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
She makes it roll nicely. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
No, no, no. It's not roll yet. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
It's the base step. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Then you have to work with the muscle like this. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
Because, we have stomach here and here. Two different muscles. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
Then we start the move from start here and breathe in and out. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
But then to belly roll, you have to hold your breath here first. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:45 | |
-You cannot do it. -I'm very nervous. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
I might have a heart attack. Ah! | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
I will work on it and come back in five years. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Five years? Oh, my God! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
Five minutes, if you like. I can do it when you are not watching. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
That's why I'm telling you that... | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
Anything at all? Does that look rather rude? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
That's not a belly roll. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
It is something else. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
That is a pelvic thrust. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
-It is. That was what I was taught in Alexander technique. -Thank you. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Any Turkish girl should be able to belly dance | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
because you are born to it? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Yes. Exactly. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Because the tango is not from my country | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
and other dances are not from my country. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
For new generation and new age, we know how to do tango, we love to dance. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:46 | |
Even Indian, hip-hop, R'n'B | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
but belly dance is from our blood. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
-Yeah. -You know? It's like people ask me sometimes, "When did you start?" | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
-I don't remember. I think I started when I was in my mother's tummy. -Yes. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
This dance is like a medicine. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
It's like a meditation but when you have stress, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
then you feel uncomfortable about something. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
You have made it internationally. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
You have your clubs all over the world. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
-How have you been able to export it? -Dancing means love. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Dancing means peace. In the dance, there is no fight. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
You know, my advice from me to them | 0:37:29 | 0:37:35 | |
is it's good to dance a little bit. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Do men belly dance? Could you teach George Bush to belly dance? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
George Bush to belly dance? You know, this is like Mission Impossible. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
He'd ask for a big fee to start with! | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
'Hang on, that's two steps to the left, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:20 | |
'two to the right, one step forward, one step back. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
'Turn to the right, turn to the left. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
'Spin and... Yeah, yeah! | 0:38:27 | 0:38:28 | |
'I think I've got it!' | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
'After all of that excitement, I take my evening meal at a meyhane, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
'a simple local restaurant where I can sit quietly | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
'and recover over a meze and a glass of raki. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
'But they have ways of dealing with people who want to sit quietly.' | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
May I sit? | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
Sure. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
'Within seconds, my meal turns into a concert. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
SHE SINGS IN TURKISH | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
Very good. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:10 | |
'Sheval, who has serenaded me so beautifully, explains.' | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
What was it about, apart from your very passionate singing and beautiful playing? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
-What was going on? -Here is meyhane. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
-Meyhane? -Meyhane means, the exact translation, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
I should have to exactly translate means a very old-fashioned Turkish word, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
it's drink. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
Hane is the home, the house. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
A drink house. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
It's not a simple word. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Meyhane is more poetic word in Turkish. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
This kind of music is coming from Ottoman empire. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
It's out of the academic, out of the street. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:59 | |
The people express their feelings | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
with this kind of music. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
The idea, really, of a place like this is to open up? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
If we see someone drink alone, like you, and we have more compassion! | 0:41:13 | 0:41:20 | |
After two glasses of raki, and with this kind of music, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
you start to open your heart | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
and express your feelings, your sadness. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
It takes a lot more than two drinks to unlock the Englishman! | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
You are sure? Let's try. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
Throughout its long history, as a Greek, Roman and Ottoman city, | 0:41:55 | 0:42:00 | |
Istanbul has managed to combine both an Eastern and Western temperament, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
which has made it unique. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
But Istanbul is not Turkey. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
If I want to understand this country better, I must move on. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
Under the stern gaze of Kamal Ataturk, founder of the republic, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:19 | |
a procession is taking place to mark an extraordinary event, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
the 25th Camel Wrestling Festival. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
The event is held in an arena in Ephesus | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
built on top of 2,500 years of history. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
20,000 people, mostly male, gather together to enjoy raki and kebabs | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
whilst wallowing in nostalgia for the creature | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
that once played such a central part in rural life. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
In modern Turkey, apart from these showpiece occasions, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
the camel is virtually redundant. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
These are specially bred, highly-trained Iranian camels, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
kept hungry and randy to ensure that bad temper will make for a better bout. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:26 | |
Frothing at the mouth like angry colonels, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
they try everything to pin their opponent's heads to the ground. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Tell me a good trick you have seen the camel play. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
To hold the other's head under the front legs. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:42 | |
Hold the head under the front legs? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
And sit on it, which is very dangerous for the other one. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:49 | |
And also very good for the one who can do this. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
-That's like a headlock, the equivalent in wrestling, you can't get them out. -Exactly. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:58 | |
Exactly. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
My friend Yusuf assures me that the camels feel no pain. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
Though not being a camel himself, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
there's an element of speculation here. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
It certainly looks bloody uncomfortable to me. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
SHOUTS IN TURKISH OVER LOUDSPEAKER | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
They're encouraging the more aggressive side of the camel's behaviour. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
One or two out there are just... They obviously don't want to fight. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
They look like they're really happy just having a cuddle. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
Are they gay camels? | 0:44:29 | 0:44:30 | |
There are some sort of camels. Yes. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:36 | |
So expensive is it to run a good fighting camel that as soon as | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
victory is achieved, the contestants are instantly pulled apart. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
Changing tack slightly, do you think that | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
people here today are mostly in favour of Turkey being in the European Union or not? | 0:44:51 | 0:44:57 | |
Yeah, hard to say. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
I know, and I believe many Turkish people, the majority | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
of Turkish people want to belong, be part of the European Union. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
But...er... | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
the political things... | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
seems like new difficulties | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
being created by the European Community. Maybe it's our fault too. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
We must...er... | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
..explain ourselves, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
express our feelings better. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
I think we should get some camel wrestling at Wembley Stadium. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
That is the first step! | 0:45:38 | 0:45:39 | |
ANNOUNCEMENT OVER TANNOY | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Well, we've come to the end of the Turkey that we know. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
But the vast majority of this country lies out to the east where the camels came from. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
And where we are going to. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
In the heart of Anatolia, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
or Asia Minor as it was known, is this hauntingly beautiful area called Capadoccia. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
Created by the aftermath of a massive volcanic eruption, the sea of lava solidified | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
into a soft rock called tufa, | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
which has been sculpted into these unique shapes by wind, rain and snow. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:05 | |
This is the town of Goreme. I'm off to meet a couple who have turned one of these wonderfully odd structures, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:27 | |
called fairy chimneys, into a very unusual guesthouse. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
Half expecting to find hobbits, I instead find myself taking a glass of tea | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
with a German academic called Andus and his Turkish wife called Gulcan. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
How did you end up living in a cave in the middle of Turkey? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
Well, it's a kind of funny story actually. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
But I'm an anthropologist. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
During my studies I came to this area as a tourist actually. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
I found out it's a very interesting area. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
First of all, the funny dwellings, all of these troglodyte caves everywhere and the nice landscape. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:10 | |
I thought it might be a nice scene for a thesis. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
So I started doing field research in the area. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
And well, later on, many years later, I came back. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:22 | |
Gulcan, what do people think around here about a German | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
moving into one of these caves that everyone else was leaving? | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
They get surprise. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:32 | |
They state why he is living here, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
he is a secret agent, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
007, like James Bond or something. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
-He looks like James Bond! -Yes. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
Probably did then. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
-LAUGHTER -All of the Bond girls! | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
Yes. Here, this house, almost 30 or 40 years | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
nobody lived in it before, because it was empty. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:59 | |
The whole broken houses. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:00 | |
When I was a little child, when I come to my grandparents, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
if I get naughty with my brother, they always say, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
"Don't. You have to be OK, just stop. Otherwise we are going to put you in the ghost house." | 0:49:08 | 0:49:16 | |
-We call this area ghost house. -You call these ghost houses? -Yes. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:21 | |
What kind of ghosts? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
There are two different kinds of ghosts. The nice ones, they call them the fairies. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
These are the good ghosts, or fairies. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
-The bad ones, the bad spirits which are gathering in the green waters. -They take you into the water. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:40 | |
They take you into the water and drown you and give you bad energy. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
People still believe it. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
I believe, but it's not true. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
But it's scary. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
-You go first. -No, after you. -OK. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
It's nice today. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
OK. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
Careful down there. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
-Perilous this. -Yes. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
You don't have railings. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
-Yes. It's still in progress. -Ha-ha! | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
-It's sporting. -The good thing is the pond down there, if it's not frozen. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
You can fall in that. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
The caves have provided refuge for many, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
none more so than early Christians who came here fleeing persecution. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
They built an estimated 1,000 rock churches in Cappadocia. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
It's an area where you have lots of churches from different periods. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
You know. Very close together. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
Was this early Christianity? | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
Well, it's a very important area, especially over here, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
you have lots of different churches from different times. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
In early Christianity, the area where also the Trinity was, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
let's say, invented with the Father, God and Holy Spirit. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:14 | |
-That idea was...? -It all kind of developed over here | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
and later on became of that orthodox part in Christianity. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
How long were the Christians here for? How long were these | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
sort of working churches? | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Well, you know, it started in the 6th century and would last until | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
the 12th and 13th century, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
even the time when Ottomans already invaded Turkey. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
Anders tells me that human habitation goes way beyond the early years of Christianity. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:49 | |
People were living here, you know, from Neolithic times onwards. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:55 | |
They had some trading contacts to Mesopotamia, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
where they traded the volcanic glass, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
which they used for cutting the harvest. That's how... | 0:52:03 | 0:52:09 | |
It wouldn't be the Silk Route, but it would be going across it? | 0:52:09 | 0:52:13 | |
Yes, it's a very early trade line. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Afterwards, more and more people settled down in the area. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
Cos it's rather fertile, you know. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
In some churches, there are wall paintings in stunning condition. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
Protected over the centuries from direct sunlight, though sadly not from the hand of man. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:38 | |
The faces scratched out, was that... They've scratched the faces out, | 0:52:38 | 0:52:43 | |
was that a deliberate policy at some time? | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
Later on, when the Turks came, they were afraid of the evil eye. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
So they scratched out the faces, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
especially the eyes, cos they kept flocks and animals in the caves. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:59 | |
-They thought the eyes were somehow had some spirit quality? -Exactly. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:05 | |
Would you like to learn for your feature, I have a friend of mine. She's just living over here. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:12 | |
Gulcan is more interested in the future than the past. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
She wants me to meet a neighbour who can read fortunes from looking in a cup of coffee. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:21 | |
I never know if it's a good thing to know about what is going to happen. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:27 | |
She says bad things and good things. Most of the time, it's coming true. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
-Does your neighbour read your fortune? -Yes, sometimes. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:38 | |
-Good things? -Good things and bad things. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
-You seem a happy sort of person though? -Oh, yes. Yes. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
-You generally think news is good for you? -Yes. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
I'm interested in exciting and nice things. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
Also she says bad things, of course, I get really upset. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
-I turn it upside down. -Yes. Yes. | 0:53:55 | 0:54:01 | |
-Put it down there. -And let it wait for a while. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
When it becomes cold here, it means it's ready. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:10 | |
It takes time for them to dry out. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
-So it's against Islamic law? -Hmm. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
Yes. For Islamic things, this thing, I'm really not a good Muslim person. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:23 | |
I'm not really a religious person. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:28 | |
This kind of things is for Muslim people, they say never, ever do it. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:33 | |
They don't accept such things, they say it's a sin. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
But we do. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
Also sometimes men, they are very interested in such things. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
But mostly maybe 80% is women that are more interested in than men. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
-That's interesting. -Yes, I like it very much! | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
SHE SPEAKS IN HER LANGUAGE | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
OK, will you meet a rich lady. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
She will make you tied here. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
You don't want to go! | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
-That's interesting. -It's really interesting. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
-There is new love for you. -Well. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:13 | |
You will get very good news. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
You will be happy and you will jump like a kangaroo. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
You will be very happy, she says. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
-Is this to do with meeting the lady or is this separate? -Ha-ha! | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
-TRANSLATION: -Maybe. Maybe or not. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
Oh, well. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
That's really interesting. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
You are going to meet this rich lady in the internet chat. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:51 | |
-Like a teenager. -A chatroom. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
I can't work the chatrooms! | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Arichlady.com. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
Caves and internet chatrooms?! | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
It's most confusing. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
It certainly stops you making any glib judgments about big cities | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
and rural backwaters. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
It feels strange, unfamiliar, and very foreign out here | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
in Asian Turkey. Yet, there's much we have in common. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
Our Christian heritage survived here. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Sons of Anatolian farmers abandon their fields to run hotels for us. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
As the young move to modern houses, anthropologists save their old ones. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:42 | |
Separating East and West is a futile preoccupation. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
The future is co-operation. I know - I saw it in the coffee cup! | 0:56:46 | 0:56:51 | |
Much history has been played out in this hard and mountainous land. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:41 | |
As political and economic change reverberates through the region, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
it could well see its time come again. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
If Turkey is successful in joining the European Union, and many think she will be, then the new Europe | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
will include not just wild and wonderful landscape like this, | 0:57:55 | 0:58:00 | |
but a whole set of new neighbours, including Syria, Iraq and Iran. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:05 | |
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