Browse content similar to Wild East. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
National Day in Tiraspol, the capital of Transdniester, a place most people have never heard of. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:59 | |
It's a breakaway state of the republic of Moldova - | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
another place most people have never heard of. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Which makes me doubly glad to be here. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
I never witnessed anything quite like this before. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
A National Day parade for a nation that doesn't exist. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
This is Transdniester. They have their own army, their own currency, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
but no single other country in the world recognises them. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
But today, they'll recognise themselves. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Transdniester, literally "Across the Dniester River", | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
consists of 4,000 square kilometres and just over half a million people. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
Oh, and a helicopter. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
When the old Soviet republic of Moldova won independence in 1991, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:56 | |
those on the east bank of the Dniester River felt let down. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
The majority were Slavs, they used the Russian language and alphabet, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
whereas the rest of Moldova spoke Romanian, the Latin language. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
So in 1992, after a short civil war, the Transdniesterans declared themselves independent. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
Which is what today's festivities are all about. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
These people want so much to remain Russian. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
But in most of their lifetimes, it looks increasingly unlikely | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
that the rift with Moldova will ever be repaired. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
After crossing the Dniester, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
I shall pass through the rest of Moldova, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
into northern Romania, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
south to Transylvania and Bucharest, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
then on to the Danube. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:01 | |
I'm coming into Chisinau, the capital of Moldova. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
This was once the far south-western corner of the mighty Soviet Union. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
Now it's a tiny independent country, trying to find its place on the new map of Europe. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
Chisinau isn't without its problems. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
But first impressions are of a likeable, surprisingly verdant, easy-going city. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
I take a walk in the park with Tatiana Tabuliyak, a local journalist. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
For a moment, it's like stepping back in time. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
BAND PLAYS | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
This is a place where, actually, old people come, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
but you can see today, not only old people are coming. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
-I think lonely people are coming here. -Yes. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
It's a place where they can be not so lonely. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
You can see here, they're pensioners, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
most of them, retired persons, living alone, with a very small pension. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
Some of them, they're just left alone, you know? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
They're not rich. They have very poor condition in life. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
What they do every Sunday, they just put a nice dress on themselves, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
make a little bit of make-up, put medals, nice suits, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and they're coming here just to meet each other. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
-They can dance with anyone here, can they? -A lot of love stories started here. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
They're quite old, some of them. Almost my age! | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
This is not old. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
You can come here for a good dose of optimism for your week. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
You know, see when a man doesn't want to dance, a lady should have more courage. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
Come on then. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
-Will you be able to lead? -We'll see what we can do. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-Oh dear, there we go. -It's not so bad. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
I'll just watch what everyone else does. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Is there much regret at the passing of the old Soviet Union? | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
Do people feel nostalgic at all here, for those days? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
Actually, a lot. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
If you would ask all of those people, you see here, they would start crying and they would say, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:57 | |
"We want back." | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Young generation, they are not so nostalgic, we didn't even get too much from the Soviet period. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:06 | |
I think people miss not the regime, they miss jobs, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
they miss pensions, they miss, er...I don't know, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
cheap food and good vacations. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
I also miss Sovietic period. You know why? Because I was young. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
I had my parents alive, and if this means to miss Soviet Union, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
yes, I miss, because I was a child, I had my grandparents, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
I went to all of these places. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Everything seems to be so beautiful. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
But now, logically, of course I'm so happy that it's not here | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
and I can speak with you today. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
20 years ago, this would be a crime. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
I would probably have a file now, if you would come and I would tell you all these things. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
This is important to know and to keep in mind always. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
Everybody is nostalgic for something, but it's important to be realistic at one point. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
You miss the sensation of something, you miss the smell or the taste, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
but you cannot miss something which killed and made unhappy so many generations. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
Tatiana also helps run the UNICEF operation in Moldova. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Tomorrow, she's going to take me to a village outside the capital to see their work in action. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:33 | |
Moldova is the poorest country in Europe. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
Many in the countryside can only support their families by working abroad. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Those left behind are easy prey for drug dealers and people traffickers. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
With the help of UNICEF, the children of this village | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
have put on a play to make people aware of the dangers that they face. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
What's...? What are they attempting to show and deal with here? | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
It's a story about trafficking. Here's a typical Moldovan village. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
People wake up to go to work. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Trafficking is a big issue in Moldova, actually. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
A quarter of the population is out, mainly women, working illegally. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:21 | |
-Abroad? -Yes, abroad. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
These are people who went abroad and now they're coming back to recruit people for prostitution, for begging. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:32 | |
Actually, they have probably lived in the same village for many years and now they come here because | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
people trust them, because if you live with someone for 20 years, you trust that person. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:44 | |
And actually, these are the main traffickers. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Local people coming back to their own village? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
People coming back, they promise them 200-300 per month. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
For them, this is huge money. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Every time, you think this wouldn't happen to you. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
You hope at least that this won't happen to you. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
She's going to be... | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
-This is already somewhere in Italy maybe, or in Moscow. -Yeah. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
They take their papers, they leave them like in streets, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
or in a room for years and years. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
They usually see, he injected some drugs to the girl. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
This is what is happening. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
They are living, like three, four, five years, drugged... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
being forced to prostitute. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
And they come back. We have a lot of cases here | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
when they need years to recover. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
Actually, children are very expressive. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Imagine that every second has parents abroad. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-Every second child here? -Every second child acting has parents abroad. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
Maybe they didn't see them for years - five years, six years. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
They just received money from them. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Maybe that's why they're so good. They've just seen it on people's faces. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
It's the look on the faces that's so intense. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
It's full of feeling, isn't it? It's very moving. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
What you are doing here, the play, does it do any good at all if people are just going to go anyway? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
Do you think it does change minds? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I think the main message is that they inform them. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Now they can know that things like this can happen. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
You should be very careful with who are you talking. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Who is taking you abroad? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
You know, this is... We want to do this for them | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
and they're doing actually. Of course people will go. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
But they will ask themselves ten times what they're doing, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
with who they're doing it. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
So what's happening now? She's being sold. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
What sort of money is involved when they're sold? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
Up to 5,000. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
But for this money, she will have to work for years and years in prostitution. Years and years. | 0:10:54 | 0:11:01 | |
We've had cases when women were telling us | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
that they've been forced to sleep with 40 men per day. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-Yeah. -Young girls, like 18-years-old. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-This is a tragedy. -That's appalling, yes. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
In the end, good defeats bad and those who were seized | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
escape their tormentors and return to the village. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
It's been a moving performance to watch, but Tatiana remains a realist. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
It's a beautiful happy end. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-But life is not always like this. -No. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Despite all its problems, Moldova is far from depressing. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Chisinau continues to surprise me. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Under the Communist regime, the arts were always encouraged, provided they didn't question the party line. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
So there was always a chance of stumbling across an experimental sculpture park, like this one here, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
which turns out to be just around the corner from a housing block, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
specially built to provide studios for working artists. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
Lika, a children's book illustrator shows me one of them. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
And I step into a world which nothing quite prepared me for. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
POP MUSIC PLAYS | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Believe it or not, this is an 87-year-old man - Lika's dad. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
-Does he make? Does your father make all the masks himself? -Yes. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
The man behind the mask is Globus Shinchuk, one of the best-known artists in Moldova. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
Did he always used to do shows like this? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Yes, yes, yes. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
But he calls it... a theatre of one spectator. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
-Right. Yes. -You see, it's a theatre with one actor, but he is a theatre with one spectator. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
For he doesn't like many people, being crowded. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
It's few people and he shows there. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
-I like that. A theatre of one spectator. -It's very live. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
I'm not sure if you show it, it will be all right. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
It's live, you see, like jazz. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
It should be seen live. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Yes. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
Globus has been making faces for 50 years. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
But it's the big stars that really seem to attract him, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
though Pavarotti is usually a bit bigger than this. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Yeah, very convincing. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
We must ask him. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
'There's a lifetime's work here, providing a fascinating archive | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
'of the politicians and celebrities of the Soviet era, with whom Globus grew up.' | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Were there good things about the Soviet system for an artist? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
No, I don't think. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
You see, people... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
had a hope, somehow, but now they don't. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
That's the difference. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
They hoped that they will have an apartment, you see, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
in 20 years, in 50 years. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
They think, after 100 years, they will build communism. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
It's a foolish hope. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
But some people lived with this. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
With this hope. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
But now they must be more real. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Real, no? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
You can still have a hope. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
No, you don't now. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Hope was fed by... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
by the...how? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
By the party. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
-By the party. -Yeah. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
The party would probably not have approved | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
of the partying that goes on every night in the nightclubs of Chisinau. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
Through Tatiana I meet Olga Maxim, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
who, at 16, left Moldova to study as an actress in Romania. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Though she now has a partner and a child there, she comes home regularly to visit her mother. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
She suggests I might like to go with her and see a quieter side of Moldovan life. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Her mother lives in a farming village, one hour south of Chisinau. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Yes, I'm visiting her quite often - once a month. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
We're coming every month. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
-Have you got brothers and sisters? -I have a sister. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
'Olga's father died seven years ago, and her mother, Helena, lives alone in the family house.' | 0:16:51 | 0:16:57 | |
Mum is working. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
She wants you to do the work now. Yes, exactly. Hello. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
What should I say really? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
THEY SPEAK IN MOLDOVAN | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Very nice to meet you. She's been very helpful to me. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
THEY SPEAK IN MOLDOVAN | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
But she's a crazy driver. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
Like many who've grown up in the world of Communist collectives, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Helena has learnt the importance of having something of your own. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Does she have to buy any food at all or she quite self-sufficient? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
No, she doesn't buy anything. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
She's growing everything in her garden. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
She buys sugar or probably rice. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
I mean, for sure. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
But everything that she grows in the garden. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
What are her luxuries? What would she like to spend her money on, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
apart from a new pair of garden gloves? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Chocolate! | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Chocolate. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
-Sweet things that she cannot grow in the garden... -That's good. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
-..that she buys from the city. -I'll remember that. I'll get you a box of chocolates. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:24 | |
The rest, she has everything. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
She has everything and she's growing chickens and ducks and all these kinds. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
Helena gets up at four every morning. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
When I look at her garden, I can see why. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Mum wants to show you her garden. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-She grows tomatoes. -She grows all of this herself, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and picks them, and all that? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-Yes, everything that she grows in here is for herself. -Yes. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
Your family have lived here for generations. On both sides? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
Yes, yes, yes. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
What did your father do? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
My father was a... | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
He had kind of ruling jobs. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
-First, he was... -In politics? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
He was a Communist, actually. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
He was... How they call it? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
..In the party, in the Communist Party. He was kind of boss. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
-Most people were at that time, weren't they? -All of them. All of the men in the village. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
-Picking like a maniac here! -Yeah, she's picking. -I love it, really. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
We natter on, and she's just really concerned about getting the raspberries in. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
They're lovely. What does she think about Moldova now? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I mean, does she think things are going to get better or worse? | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
THEY SPEAK IN MOLDOVAN | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
She says that...I think that... | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
She thinks that things might go worse because of the economic situation. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:29 | |
The salaries are very small, and the prices are growing. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
For her, it's enough - she says, "For me, it's enough, I have everything." | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
-Yes. -But for the other people from the cities, especially, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
things might get worse because of the economy. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Does she...? Is she nostalgic for the Communist time? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
No? No, she's happy. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Despite this, I suspect it will be a long time | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
before "new Europe" changes the way of life in the Moldovan countryside. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
Certainly, the meal Helena treats us to owes more to the old days. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-How is it? -It's very nice, yes, yeah. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
'And she's made the wine as well.' | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-But it must mean that... -She wants to toast. -A toast, oh, yes. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Yes, well, thank you. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
-Cheers. -Here's to Moldovan way of life, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
Moldovan food, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
to the best cook in Moldova. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Are people more inclined now towards Romania and... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
obviously then to the West and Europe? | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
After the separation, they just remain alone, totally alone. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
And Moldova has no industry, has nothing to live from, just land. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
There, you see, they are growing vegetables, and they are having this. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Actually, the Soviet Union was calling Moldova the sunny country, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
because everything was here very natural, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
the vegetables and the chicken and everything was growing naturally from the land. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
There was nothing chemicals or stuff like this. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Would you come back to live here? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
In Moldova? Maybe when I'm very old...maybe. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
There you are, you see? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
A qualified person like yourself can't really work here. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Here in the south of Moldova, old and new worlds meet in quite surreal circumstances. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
DRUMMING | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
The country's top group, Zdob Si Zdub, much influenced by folk music, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
has come here specially to re-unite with a gypsy lady, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
known and loved by all as Grandma. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
ELECTRIC GUITAR PLAYS | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
HE SINGS IN MOLDOVAN | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Grandma won international fame banging the drum for Moldova | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
in the 2005 Eurovision Song Contest. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
They came sixth. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
Well, we've now left Moldova, and we're in Moldavia. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
Moldova's a separate country, as we know. Moldavia is a part of Romania. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
It's confusing, I know, but it's very, very beautiful. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
In the foothills of the Carpathian Mountains, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
largely protected from marauding armies and political commissars, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
are some of the least-changed communities in Europe. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Religion remains the focus of local life, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
and the churches are works of art. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
The walls of this one, the monastery at Moldovita, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
are covered inside and out with frescos painted 500 years ago. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
These ones here are a graphic account | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
of the siege of Constantinople, with Christian armies desperately fighting off the Turks. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
It's like mediaeval news footage. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
-Every single wall is covered. -Yes, every square inch, we can say, is covered with paintings, yeah? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
What we see here, this is Last Judgment scene, always at the entrance to remind people about... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:48 | |
how important it is to take care of their next lives. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
'Carolina is my guide to this extraordinary Byzantine masterpiece.' | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
-Presumably where the altar would be. -Behind that wall would be the altar, where no men of other religion | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
-and no women are ever allowed to go, except nuns sometimes. -Yes. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
And the wall here is called the Icon Wall, or the Iconostasis, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
which is one of the most marvellous parts of this church, basically. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
-Is that gold leaf or gold? -Yes, it's gold, yeah. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
-It's carved in wood and covered with gold. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-And they're still working. -And they are still working on it, yes. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Gosh, such detail. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Yeah, so much detail, so much time consuming. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
How long have they been working? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
Just over 15 years now. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
Since it's about 700 euros per square metre to clean it. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
For centuries this has been a hidden gem, but in the new Europe it could be tourist gold. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
BELL TOLLS | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
In the mountains of the Maramures region, it's All Souls' Day, and if evidence were needed | 0:25:51 | 0:25:57 | |
as to why communist atheism made so little headway here, look no further than this churchyard. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:04 | |
The graveyard in the village of Ieud is packed with families here to remember their loved ones. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
The priest blesses each grave in turn. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Candles are lit and bread specially baked. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Ionut, a local student, tells me why. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
This is one of the most important days in the...of the year. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
Yeah. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
Because this is...this is the day when we celebrate death. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
Right, remember the dead. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Yes, just like we celebrate the birth, the wedding, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
and this is the day when we remember the dead. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
It's not just relatives of the living who are remembered. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Any member of a family who has died in the past 200 years can have their name read out. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
It's a touching image of the power of remembrance and continuity, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
and surely helps to make the work of the Grim Reaper seem a little less grim. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
After the mass, I walked through the village | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
with Ionut and his father Filimon, who've invited me back to their house to carry on the celebrations. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:59 | |
Meanwhile, with the dead remembered, the living go back to work. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
Despite the beauty of the countryside, life here is hard, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
and the way to find relief from the daily grind is usually with strong drink and a good knees-up. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:31 | |
I fear that Ionut and Filimon are no exceptions. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
With Ionut's mother keeping a beady eye out in the background, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
the first of several toasts is raised. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Cheese and sausage is on the table, and in the glass - palinka, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
a fiery eau de vie made from apples and pears. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
And with an awful inevitability, one thing leads to another. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
And another. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
Why can't they just have afternoon tea just like anyone else? | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
Next morning, I find myself and my hangover aboard a horse and cart, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
along with Clara, whom I'd met last night at the party. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
We're in the town of Sapanta and, perhaps appropriately | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
in view of how I feel, on our way to another cemetery. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
-Are we here? -Yeah, we are here, we're gonna stop here. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
But one, as they say, with a difference. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Most of the graves are decorated by local artist Stan Patras. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
It's nice that all... I mean, the usual symbols of death, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
the skulls and the Grim Reapers, they don't have those things. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
I mean, it's life. I mean, this one here... | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
Yeah, this one, it's very... | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
-What's that? -This sign is not so sad, actually. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Here it's about a very happy man who lived a very happy life. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
He liked to drink wine and palinka | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
and to entertain woman, you know? | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
So he's had a happy life, and when did he die? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-Did he die when he was...? -He died when he was... | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-18? -They don't say the age exactly, but he lived a very happy life, so I think he also died very happily. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:03 | |
I quite like that. I'd like that on my grave, actually. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Much better than "Here lies so-and-so so-and-so" to have a little sort of picture of me. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
-Yes, it's an idea to... | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Wouldn't you? Some bit of your life celebrated rather than, you know, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:20 | |
just the word, "Died here," and all the grim stuff, celebrate life. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
Ja, ja, I think it's very nice, ja. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
And people are much more enjoyable when they read that about you | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-and what you did. -I think that's what you want to remember. -Of course. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
Some of them, they are...let's say, happy, cheery, but some of them, they are quite, I think, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
-sad, let's say. -Yes, accidents - this one here, for instance. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
So it's a bittersweet combination. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
What's that? What does that say? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
It's a little kid, and it's about a cab driver, he drove a cab, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
and the girl wondered, "Why that cab should stop near the house and kill me? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:04 | |
"From all this country he couldn't find another place | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
"but next to our house where I was living and stayed nearby?" | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
And the cab killed her, so then she is also... | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
That describes what happened. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Yeah, that describes over there, ja, how it happened, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
how the kid drove into the fence and killed the little girl. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
It's an odd combination, isn't it? Cos you feel, you know, an awful accident and a dead girl there, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
and yet somehow it takes the curse off it somehow. It celebrates her short life. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:35 | |
Yeah, that's true, yeah. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
They call this the merry cemetery, and I can see why. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
There's no better place than this to learn about the pain, pleasure | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
and the preoccupations of life in Maramures. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
It's a region that's not overflowing with job opportunities, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
but the forest, high above one of its most remote valleys, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
has for many years provided local men with work. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
It's Monday morning, and I'm joining the train which takes about 80 lumberjacks up into the forest. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:27 | |
No comment. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
Morning... Hi. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
Well... | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
I don't have a ticket, do I need a ticket? No? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
Just need an interest in trees. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
The more beautiful it gets, the colder it gets, and the only heating's in the engine. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
This isn't luxury travel, but they're lumberjacks - they're OK. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
It may not look like it, but things have changed for the Romanian lumberjack. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
The chainsaw has replaced the axe, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
and environmental concerns have limited how much they can cut, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
reducing the workforce by a fifth. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
At lunch, I'm introduced to a local delicacy - very useful, I'm told, for soaking up palinka. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:05 | |
-What's this, by the way? -This is slanina. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
-What's that? -It's like the lard. -White fat. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
It's a fat, it's fat, yes. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
It's from pig meat, it's a pig, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
and usually you take a bit of this, and you must... | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
-Do you? -Yes, of course, let's do it. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
-Let's do it. -Is this very...? -Trust in me. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
..very sort of typical of Maramures? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
Typical of Maramures, yes. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
What do you do? You dip it in there? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
No, no, no, no, just...bite it. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Cheers! Noroc! | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Noroc! Noroc! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
Mmm, yeah, quite salty and... | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
It's not spice, it's good. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
Well, it's fat, but I like it, I like it. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
It's fine, fine. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
We used to have dripping when I was young. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
In Sheffield, you'd have dripping on bread, we'd have that, | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
but now nobody...ooh, nobody has it, it's kind of shocking. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
Far too much sort of bad things for you, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
but I think it's... a little bit every now and then. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
Having probably shortened my life by a good few years, it's time to leave this otherwise delightfully | 0:37:16 | 0:37:22 | |
clean and healthy mountain air and head south with the timber. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
HORN BLOWS | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
BELLS RING OUT | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
Well, I've come south from Maramures, with its merry preoccupation with the dead, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
to Transylvania, with its rather more sinister preoccupation with the undead. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:48 | |
This is Sighisoara, in the very heart of Romania, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
and the word "heart" reminds me this is Dracula land. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
The town was fortified by Saxons from south Germany, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
hence the Brothers Grimm, fairytale-like appearance. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
It was intended as a bulwark against invaders coming through the Carpathians, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:16 | |
Europe's last line of defence. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Ioanna, my guide, tells me the Germans lived here happily for centuries, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
but the Communists made them unwelcome, and now they've all left. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
One of the most legendary figures in history was born here | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
and is still remembered. Ioanna has mixed feelings about his legacy. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
They've really got Dracula... | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
Look at all these! Dracula has taken over your town. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
-Yes, this was the house of the father of Vlad the Impaler. -Yeah. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
Maybe he was born right here. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
But who was he? | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
He was a great voivode, you know? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
-Voivode, no, what's a voivode? -A prince. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
-A prince, yeah, yeah. -And a great leader. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
-So he was quite a hero for the Romanian people, he fought the Turks. -A big hero. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:15 | |
-He defended very well his people, and he beated the Turks. -Yeah. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
He did a bit of impaling, though, didn't he? He wasn't very nice, was he? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
It was a good thing, because he loved justice, and it was a habit, you know, all around. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
-Was it? Everybody was impaling everybody else? -Yes. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
We think the medieval times are charming, don't we? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-This is all Bram Stoker's work, isn't it? -Yes. -He's responsible for this. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
What do you think of all this? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
-These are pretty kitsch, huh, don't you think? -That's what I like. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
-Yes, it's funny. -I like these especially. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
-OK, buy them. -Would you mind? Turn your back if I just... | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
-I'll be your witness. -Keep the Dracula business going. -Please buy them in front of me. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
Maybe I can have these two here. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
Whoops! | 0:40:00 | 0:40:01 | |
There we are. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
A coffee for me and the wife. That will be nice in the morning, before impalings. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:09 | |
Can we have those? Thank you. How much? | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
-300. -OK, 300. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
It's good, this. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
OK, fine. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
And if you want, I have a colleague performing Count Dracula. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:25 | |
-Oh. -The character of Bram Stoker. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Is he scary, your friend? | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
-Very. -Very scary. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
If you want to be scared. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:32 | |
Combining history and local superstitions, Irish writer Bram Stoker | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
created a character responsible for a tourist industry that has brought wealth | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
and car parks to the gentle Transylvanian countryside. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Dracula's most blood-curdling deeds were set here at Bran Castle. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:59 | |
It certainly looks the part, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
and attracts some strange people. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
-Welcome to my castle. -Thank you. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-Come with me. -Thank you. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
Be my guest. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
'Johanna's friend Peter has to be one of them. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
'He doesn't look well.' | 0:41:14 | 0:41:15 | |
Come with me...my friends. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
You first. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
No, you first! | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Oh, dear. Into-the-little-passageway syndrome. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
Bring the garlic! | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
It's strange. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
HE CONTINUES LAUGHING | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
It's death. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
These rooms were done up in the 1920s by Queen Marie, wife of King Karol, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:03 | |
when Romania had a royal family. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Sorry, back to the story. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
-Old vampire. -Girl! | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
Ssh, girl! | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Aaargh! | 0:42:29 | 0:42:30 | |
Transylvania, oh, Transylvania. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
In Transylvania you can see very strange things. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
'Telling me!' | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
But I have more. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
My revenge is begun. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
I spied it over the century, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
and time is on my side. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
I've seen a lot of Romania's unchanged rural byways. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:12 | |
Now it's time to head for the capital, Bucharest, to find out how modern Romania has been shaped. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
And, as happens on trains, I end up learning a thing or two on the way. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
I notice the book you're reading is by Cioran. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
-Yeah. -In my guide book there's a great bit here about | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
Emil Cioran, the philosopher, who published On The Heights Of Despair, setting out nihilist anti-philosophy | 0:43:32 | 0:43:39 | |
that the only valid thing to do with one's life is to end it. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
-But continued to expound this view until he was 84. -Yeah. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
-Yeah, quite so. -So is he well known? | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
It is, actually, it is. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
It's one of the Romanian biggest philosopher. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
He's part of the golden generation of Romanian spirituality, | 0:43:57 | 0:44:03 | |
built up between the wars. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
Europeans seem to be able to respect and admire philosophy more than they do in England. Is that so? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:11 | |
-Really? -We don't really have great philosophers. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
You have Shakespeare, which explains everything. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
-Maybe that's it. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
We have this sort of conceit in the West that we are Europe. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
And I've discovered from this journey that it's not like that. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
The culture and history is all entwined. And Romania must have felt itself to be part of Europe. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:36 | |
Romania has...in one way, in one time in its history, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:42 | |
elected to be in eternity, to have no connection with historical time because it's a tear-off of history. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:48 | |
We are in the middle of the crossroads of all nation invaders, empires and everything else. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:55 | |
And to survive, the Romanian people choose to be suspended in eternity. | 0:44:55 | 0:45:02 | |
I'm not entirely sure what that means. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:06 | |
When I set out to see Bucharest next morning, I'm not entirely sure where I am. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
Have I been flown back to London overnight? | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
Perhaps I never left Maramures. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
Ah, now I understand! Of course, I'm in the American West! | 0:45:46 | 0:45:52 | |
Hello, you're Bogdan. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Very good. Very good to meet you. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
I feel I have been all over the world in the last two minutes trying to get here. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
Bogdan runs the many make-believe worlds here at Castel Film Studios. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:06 | |
It's a Romanian success story, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
with international hits like Cold Mountain shot here. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
And another American movie currently in production. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
Action! | 0:46:14 | 0:46:16 | |
-How did it come to be you? -Post communism was very chaotic. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
Most of the industry is trying to find pace, trying to find direction, markets were collapsing, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:28 | |
systems were collapsing and changing. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
So it seems to be crazy for a young DOP at that time called Vlad Paunescu to start a business like that. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:37 | |
You know, it seems crazy but in the end, now, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
it seems to be a very successful business. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
Bucharest - a sprawl of some 2 million people, has been a capital for 350 years. | 0:46:54 | 0:47:01 | |
But it's the traumatic recent history, shaped by the Communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:09 | |
who ran the place for 25 years, that is stamped all over it. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
That building in front of us there, the white building, was the central committee of the Communist Party. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:20 | |
This is where the revolution in 1989 started in Bucharest. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:27 | |
This is where a big crowd of people was gathered in December 1989, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:33 | |
by Ceausescu, strangely enough, in a big rally, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
to support communism actually. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:43 | |
And people started to boo him, and in a way to attack him verbally, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:50 | |
and then, gradually, literally attacked this building | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
and from the top of the building is a very famous shot of his helicopter taking off from the Palace. | 0:47:54 | 0:48:01 | |
Within days he was executed. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
The Communist system in Romania was probably, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
if not the toughest, definitely one of the toughest in Eastern Europe. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:13 | |
It was very similar... and he actually had models | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
from those areas in North Korea and Vietnam at that time, in Iraq. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:24 | |
He became a very good friend with all these dictators. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
And this was the result - Ceausescu's palace of the people. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
After the Pentagon, the second largest building in the world. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
It now houses, amongst other things, the Romanian parliament, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
and I'm shown around by another Bogdan, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
MP and current president of the Chamber of Deputies, Bogdan Olteanu. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:53 | |
Frankly, everybody hated it because of its history, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
because of the people that were brought here by force. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
Some of them died. Thousands of houses had been demolished in this area | 0:49:04 | 0:49:09 | |
and people were forcibly removed, so, basically Romanians hated it. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
There was a long debate in the early '90s about what to do with it | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
and one of the ideas was to bomb it. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
-To bomb it? -To demolish it, OK. The idea was to bomb it from a plane. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:27 | |
In the end it was easier to keep it. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:35 | |
A headache for Bogdan and his colleagues now is how to fill the space. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:40 | |
The statistics are staggering. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
Begun in 1984, 20,000 labourers and 700 architects | 0:49:54 | 0:50:00 | |
worked 24 hours a day | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
to build over 1,000 rooms, hang 4,500 chandeliers, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:08 | |
lay 1 million cubic feet of marble, and it's still not finished. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
One carpet alone weighed 14 tons. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
There's a nuclear bunker dug 70 ft below ground | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
and 26 churches and 7,000 homes were demolished for this and the civic centre that surrounds it. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:32 | |
You can see the grand scheme here from this balcony. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
Yeah. Here, he can address the people, and they will never know | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
who's addressing them because they can hardly see you from there. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
That's a bit of a mistake. Was he illuminated? | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
-Minor mistake! -Minor mistake. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
If he had the time, probably he would have built a second building. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
Was that based on the Champs Elysees? | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
I wouldn't say it's based on the looks, but it's certainly based on the size. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
He wanted to have a boulevard longer and wider, and he managed to have it longer and wider. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:09 | |
It's a little bit wider and a little bit longer. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
Nobody compares them, obviously. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
Fragments of the old city can still be seen | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
but, in truth, there's little left of the golden days of the 1920s and '30s, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
when Bucharest was known as Little Paris. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
Of course, there have been golden days for Romania since then, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
many of which involved their world number-one tennis player of the 1970s, Ilie Nastase. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:43 | |
Oh! | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
Oh, I say! | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
I've never been in a tennis superstar's home before. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
-So show me these... -I'm not any more. I'm no superstar. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
Well, there you are. That was the superstar days. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
There's one with the ugly chap. Oh, my God! | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
-How long have you been in this house? -33 years. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Have you ever wanted to live in another city? | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
Yeah - New York. And also Rome, but I was in New York the first time. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
I don't have time for Rome after. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
I feel I know you because I've seen you so often and followed your... | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
I think I saw you, too. Seriously. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
-Not playing tennis? -No, no. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
I know your face, I don't know from when, but your face, I saw, yes. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
-Way back, way back. -Way back? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
-Me too. -Yeah. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
When you were a tennis superstar in the '70s, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
what was it like here in Ceausescu's Communist Romania? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
Yet being able to leave the country and go to the bright lights of the West? | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
Did you feel a bit in two worlds? | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
It was difficult for me because, you know, I was living mostly in the West. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:54 | |
And I play in the West all the time. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
And when I play Davis Cup, I have to come back, and I know the situation not very good. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:03 | |
Because my parents told me what's happening. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
They have a good life, but other people not. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
We're looking at new Europe, and how it's changing. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
How much has Romania changed, since the fall of communism? | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Unfortunately, I think the people have more freedom | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
but they have less money, unfortunately. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
I'm talking about general people, not the few who are very rich, | 0:53:21 | 0:53:26 | |
and they have not millions but billions, some of them. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:31 | |
But unfortunately, like I said, freedom is there, but they cannot travel. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:36 | |
Before, they have the money to travel, they do not have the passport. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
Sorry, this is a slightly different tack. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
It may be rather personal, but I read a quote where you said you had slept with 250,000... | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
-Sorry, no, 250,000 women. -No, 2,500. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
-2,500 women. -Well, it's not exactly like that, but I just said it. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
I cannot tell you the story because then the autobiography, it not sell my books! | 0:53:55 | 0:54:01 | |
No, I did with David Beckham, and she's English, the lady I did the book. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
-And of course... -Was that a round figure? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
He came to me, and asked me, how many girls do you think you sleep with? | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
I said, I don't know, I never count them, but I said, for 30 years, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
I didn't put more than 30 years, but 30 years, maybe three a month, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
four a month, five a month, it's, you know, almost 2,000. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
No, I said, 800, 900. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
And she said, no, it cannot be like this. First, it doesn't look good for your reputation, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:38 | |
it does not look good for my book, can't sell the book, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
and then I said, OK. I said 2,500. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
"That sounds very good!" | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
So, that's what I said. It is a joke, you know? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
I think I'll try and say that. You can get away with it, I can't. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
No, but it's, you know, you never count. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
For me, the one that counts is the last one. | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
In the villages and towns of northern Romania, we saw the legacy of the past respected. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
Ceausescu, the son of peasants, signally failed to do the same for Bucharest. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:13 | |
He treated the capital as his plaything, destroying lives and history in the process. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:18 | |
The time has come for me to leave this rather oddly endearing mess of a capital. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:30 | |
It seems to have got over the indignities of the Ceausescu years | 0:55:30 | 0:55:35 | |
and is coming well on the way to becoming Little Paris again, or maybe Little Milan. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:40 | |
It's time to head on back to the Danube - my highway through Europe. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
At the spot where a Roman bridge once spanned this far frontier of their empire, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:55 | |
I walk with Dan Badorau, who was born and brought up here. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
A National Theatre actor, he's also much in demand to play baddies in American action movies. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
The ideal person, perhaps, to escort me out of Romania. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
A massive Hydro-Electric plant has transformed this dramatic stretch | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
of the Danube from a turbulent gorge called the Iron Gates, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
to a wide, windswept sea. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
-The gorge is...there? -Where those rocks are, yes. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:40 | |
You'll see. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
-It's fantastic. -The whole thing narrows, very, very tight. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
The Danube here is like a big lake. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
'Ahead of me and Dan, another gorge waits to be navigated.. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
And now you will see, in one minute, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:57 | |
a huge statue of, er... | 0:56:57 | 0:57:00 | |
of our ancient king, Decebalus. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
-Really? -Yeah. -Where is it? Just round the inlet there? -Yes. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:09 | |
Strange place for a statue. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
I still can't see anything. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
-The eyes. -Oh, yes! | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
-Nose! -Yes! | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
-Huge... -That's very good. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
And what does it say? | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
It says in Latin, "Decebalus Rex. Dragan fecit." | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
-Dragan made it. -Dragan made it. -Who's Dragan? | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
He made his fortune in Italy and he gave a gift for the Romanian people. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:49 | |
-Gift to the Romanian people? -Yes. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
King Decebalus is a hero? | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
-He's a hero, he fight with the Romans. -Ah, right, yeah. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:59 | |
With Trajan, Emperor Trajan. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
Trajan, yeah. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 | |
Trajan, yes. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:06 | |
As we approach the gorge, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
I experience a feeling the Roman legionnaires might have shared, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
of leaving a far-off outpost, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
as the Danube carries me onwards. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:38 | 0:58:41 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 |