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06/09/2012

Matt Baker and Alex Jones are joined by actor Martin Shaw, who talks about the new series of Inspector George Gently. John Sergeant continues his stunning Scottish journey.


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Hello. Welcome to The One Show. Many detectives swear by the

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softly-softly approach. For one copper, gently gently works every

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time. Welcome to Martin Shaw. Good to see you. Nice to have you

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back. You have played a policeman and a judge of course, Judge John

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Deed. What do you make then of this real-life judge in the north east

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saying that it takes courage to be a burglar? There has been an awful

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lot of dreary journalise around this. No-one knows what the judge

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said. A judge's judgment takes a long time to write and consider. We

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have no idea whether he was quoting a defence barrister. We don't know

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what the context was. David Cameron said the same. David Cameron is the

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Prime Minister and rightly he has to condemn the sound bite, but asen

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intelligent man he must know in his mind there would have been a lot

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more said than that. We can't assume that a judge who spent half

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a lifetime learning the law and how to punish or administer

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minuteishment to people, we have to assume he knows what he is doing.

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We are sure the judge will have his chance to put his side of the story

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across. Tonight, we want to add to Inspector George Gently's team. So

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if you or somebody close to you was in the force, anywhere in the UK,

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back in the '60s, then please do send us a picture and we will bring

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some of you out of retirement later on. You are looking forward to that.

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I shall long for it. Selling stolen property is a crime.

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Unless it is the police that are doing the selling.

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Top of the range DVD players, a set of golf clubs, expensive watches

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and seen this off-road motorbike, all available at bargain prices

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that seem almost a steal. This may look like every other auction but

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it's not. The items being sold here have a shady history.

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These are all items that have been seized by the police during his

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investigations. Some of them will have sentimental value. Others less

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so. These auction owners visit police stations of West Yorkshire

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picking up goods that have been stolen from homes and businesses

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across the county. Police say their efforts to track down owners don't

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always work and as storage space is limited, the only option is to sell

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them at auction. This is one of our typical stores What kind of stuff

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do you have in here? Power tools, pedal cycles. Electrical goods, TVs,

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video players, things people can move on quickly and easily.

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stuff you you can take to auction. Yes. What is it that the police can

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do and are doing to get that back to its rightful owner. When it is

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brought in we search the computer system. Try and reunite it that way.

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The chances of giving that back to the people who own it? Very, very

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slim. But actually, there's a very simple way of helping to get your

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stolen goods back. We have ultraviolet pens. Take your

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electrical goods, you put your house postcode on there and house

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number. So you can see there's nothing that stands out there. Put

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whatever you want on there and you will see it shows up under

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ultraviolet light. How many people do this? Not many do it. If the

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police can't reunite you with your property, it will be sold on.

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Across the UK a freedom of information request for The One

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Show found over three years more than 1.5 million pounds has been

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raised from sales like these. That keeps auction houses like this

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busling with business. Do you have any bad feeling about selling

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things that were taken in a burglary from someone's home?

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don't let it bother me. It doesn't enter into my mind. Not at all.

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It's come from the police and that is how I see it. Has anyone ever

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said, hold on that belongs to me? Nobody. Because once the police

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give us it, it is our responsibility to get rid of it.

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is good news for Bargain Hunters. What are you looking for? Two or

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three bikes that I come and have a look at. You can get a bike for �10

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and then it is worth over �100. Or if it just needs a brake, you buy

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it and put it on. Not everyone is here to make a profit. 272-year-old

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John buys buys cheap tools which he gives to a charity that sends them

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on to after ka. I can -- Africa. I am looking for hand tools today. I

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give them to my favourite charity. If I gave this charity �10 notes,

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that is all they would get. But if I give them these, it is far more

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valuable to the charity. Are you planning on bidding for this?

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I hit the floor to see how the How did you get on? Two bikes.

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that a good result? It's more than I normally get. How much money did

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you spend? �38. I went to �38. set of golf clubs. Cuddly toy.

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bought a dinlingy box. -- digibox. Have you any mixed feelings about

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making money from what was at some point was someone's property.

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are the police suppose today do. They can't keep hold of these

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things forever. It wouldn't worry me if it's been someone else's. As

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long as it's been dealt with properly by the police. Any money

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the police raise from auctions has to be donate today charitable

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causes. At least a little good can come from your misfortune.

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As somebody who has been burgled I wouldn't feel comfortable at all

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buying those goods. Somebody who knows about this is BBC reporter

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Tom Symonds who found himself on the other end of crime. This guy

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appeared in front of me, mask, hood, knife and I saw the knife very soon.

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He took my wal et, my phone and it was a hell of a shock. But I handed

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everything over. The police came up, looked for him and didn't find him.

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They said have you set up the tracking device on your phone and I

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had. They had this computer and they are looking at it for a bit

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and my phone popped up on this housing estate three or four miles

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away. We went down from, full speed. Two guys stood there and they ran

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off in different directions and they did catch the guy who had

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taken my phone and he dropped it in a bush and they called the phone to

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find it. A lesson learnt, always enable

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these tracking devices. If you haven't got it, then download the

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app if you can do that. What other advice have the police given us

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about protecting property? The one thing I learned that night, don't

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wander around a dark dark street using an expensive mobile phone,

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that might cost �300. This guy followed me from the bus stop. The

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other thing is that you really can do a lot to protect yourself. You

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can register all your goods, anything that is expensive can be

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registered in advance, so if it is stolen it can be tracked on the

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police database. There is a website called Immobilise and you can

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register your valuables there. a crime reporter, it must have been

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extraordinary extraordinary to go through that?. I got to see what

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was like being a victim on the other side of the story, especially

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the court process, it was very interesting. The person who mugged

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me only pleaded guilty when I turned up at court to give evidence

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against him. He wouldn't have pleaded guilty if I hadn't been

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there. That is another important thing, stand up and say what

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happened. Did you get your wallet back?. Yes, I got the phone back. I

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didn't see the wallet again. What do you think, would you be

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comfortable buying from these police auctions? I don't think I

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would. That old hippie thing about the vibes, but also somebody else's

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property that's been taken from them, I think it would have the

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wrong feel about it. When you think about antiques, you don't know

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their past. That is true, it is a thought. I don't think I would be

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happy with one of those. It is good to see the money goes to good

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causes. Tom would be there in a flash? I am out of pocket now, so

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yes, I need to get something back. All this week John Sergeant has

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been finding his sea legs on some of Scotland's most stunning lochs.

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Tonight he journeys from Little In the far north-west, the wild

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rugged mountains of wester Ross frame some of the most beautiful

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Scottish sea lochs. I am sailing the spirit of June, to

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one of the most remote and unusual communities in Britain. On the

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shore of Little Loch Broom. I am going to see how people live in the

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small village here and we are going by boat because that is the only

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way the normal traveller can get there. It is one of just two

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villages on mainland Britain which are only accessed by boat. Cathy

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has lived here for most of her adult life. I came here for the

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winter and then I thought I will move on in the spring and that was

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32 years ago. You just think it is wonderful Not always, no, but it is

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home. Love it or hate it, I couldn't think of living anywhere

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else. It isn't just off the beaten track, it is off the electricity

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grid. The res gents -- residents generate their own power. It is

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hard here to keep a secret. Is that good or bad? Good. I think so.

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means that everyone knows your business. Can't sneeze without

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somebody two miles away saying you have a cold. Everything going on or

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off does so across the loch, which means the boat taxi a vital link.

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This is the Friday afternoon trip across the loch to pick up the

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school kids. What life is it for the kids? It is great to run around

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after school, you know you are going to be safe, you don't have to

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worry about cars. For primary school age children it is an

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excellent place to grow up. It is not paradise. It is hard work. You

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are an hour-and-a-half from your car to your front door. Everything

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has to come on to the boat and across the loch. If you have

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forgotten something, disaster. Bill's daughter loves coming home.

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What do you like about living here? It is unique. It is a big family

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really. There must be times when you just think it is a bit boring.

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It can get very boring. community has to accept that it's

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teenagers want to fly the nest. Do you think you will leave here when

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you grow up? Probably. That is probably just because I want to see

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the world and experience different things. I could come back. I am

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leaving this loch for the open waters of the North Atlantic. With

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20 knots of winds, you need your wits about your. Why do I like

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sailing? You are in a different world, you have to think about so

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many things, think about, have you enough water under you, what about

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the sails, what about the wind. Are you going in the right direction.

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All that makes you think about these things and not about the

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problems at home or about traffic or about work. That's why although

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Loch Ewe, where a belt of tall pines conceals a surprisingly

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xrotic landscape. The warm waters of the Gulf Stream keep conditions

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mild enough for unusual plants from all over the world. Kevin is taking

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me to see something quite extraordinary. These pines were

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were known only through fossils and were thought to have become extinct

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two million years ago until some were found in an isolated

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Australian ravine. These specimens were donated here in 2007. It is

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the equivalent of find ago dinosaur alive. They are prehistoric looking.

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We are so lucky to have a group of nine growing this far north. They

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really look unusual. Loch Ewe, unusual gardens, unusual

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trees, and an unusually beautiful place.

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A part of the country you know very, very well. Off bolt hole up there.

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I have, in gallow way. I was on a loch just last weekend. I keep a

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canoe in the barn and so we were out on the loch giving it that.

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it important for you to have that remoteness? It is vital. There's no

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internet, scarcely any mobile phone signal. The land line is only

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intermittent. That's Matt's dream. I try and create that at home. You

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are back with a brand new series of Inspector George Gently. These

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detective dramas on a Sunday night tend to be nice cosy viewing but

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yours tackles darker grittier issues, like racism and class. Why

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do you think it took that route? Because that is what police work is

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about. You can't really romanticise racism or child kidnapping. I think

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police work does involve darkness. You have this interesting paradox,

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certainly for me as an actor, as a man who is living a double life.

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He's got his internal life of grief and being alone and missing his

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wife, but at the same time having to be a leader and somebody who

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enforces the law. There's so much going on, not only the social

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history but with Sergeant Bacchus as well in his 30s, you have older

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viewers seeing things from your perspective and younger ones seeing

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it from his. It is cleverly putting together. It is. It is a joy to do.

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It's going to work with your mates. Lee is an absolute delight. From

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day one we got on so well together. It helps with the chemistry of the

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show and helps when we ad lib and make things up as we go along. Is

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there quite a bit of that? There is a little bit. There was one last

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week when he got the car wrong, and he said something and we just keep

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it in. It adds realism to it. is the pair of you in episode four

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when, shock horror, Gently is facing corruption charges.

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There's no evidence. Allegations had been made at the time of the

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trial had been re-examined. Which ones? That you had a corrupt

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relationship with him. That you framed him to cover your own crimes.

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Well I would like to see the evidence for that because there

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isn't any. There is, sir. They have uncovered bank accounts in your

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name with regular payments all from rat began. -- Rattigan.

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We were watching Sunday night's episode earlier in the office and

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we were both saying how much attention to detail there is as far

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as keeping it authentic to the '60s. You are hands on. You are very

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fussy. Very fussy. I I I am one of the few people in the series who

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was alive at the time. We have got one of the finest designers in the

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world, Morris Cane, whose attention to detail is spectacular. He will

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create a complete world that you won't necessarily see. On the first

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day, the murdered wife was called Isabella and on the first day I got

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into my office, picked up a period Ronson lighter and engraved on it,

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it says to George love always Isabella. Nobody is going to see

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that except me, but it means so much to you as an actor, that that

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is there. It is always there in my pocket or on my disc. Nobody will

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know that, they will now, but that is the kind of designer that we've

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got. That is why it looks so authentic. You can see Martin in

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Inspector George Gently this Sunday night on BBC One at 8.30. If a

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stranger offered you a bundle of cash, would you take it and run or

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refuse, fearing you were being scammed?

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Well it appears that one anonymous benefactor is genuinely giving

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money to random people that he has only just met.

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As the saying goes there's no such thing as a free lunch, even if you

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find a tenner in an old pair of jeans that's not really luck,

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because it was yours in the first place. One man is busy reinventing

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the whole notion of luck. Through his scheme, we are lucky, this

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anonymous benefactor is giving away hundreds of thousands of pounds of

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his own money. Very simply I select people I come across, that I bump

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into or I find out about and I approach them and give them �1,000.

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And ask them to do something good with that money. How do you decide

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who to give the money to? It is always the result of some positive

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encounter, whether it is a smile on the tube train or something amazing

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someone has done or just someone being nice and doing a good deed.

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The thing is about me not choosing where the money goes, other people

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choose. It is as simple as that. Yes. There have been over 100

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recipients so far, from twitter treasure hunters to random

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encounters. I had been following we are lucky on twitter all day. Once

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I told him about my leaving my job the day before to work on projects

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in Africa, he decide today give me one of the envelopes. I knew it was

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would be massive boost for the charity if I got the money. That is

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why I decided to go. Mr Lucky has given other people the chance to

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hand out invitation toss claim the money, including cabbie Paul.

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out on my normal day and hadn't been out long and a woman hailed me

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down and I asked her if this was where she worked and she said no

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this is where my daughter goes to school but I work for a charity.

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She was really over the moon with it. Sadly, the lady didn't come

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forward. A bit of a shame. What was your inspiration for this?

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father who never had any money but was incredibly active in our

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community, he spent a lot of time time giving something back and

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putting something into the people around him. I always thought that

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was amazing and I aspired to be like that. If you trust people then

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people respond. Is it a marketing ploy? No tlrks has been an

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incredible interest in what has been put out so far and people seem

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to like it. It sets off a positive chain of feeling. Why is it

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important to be anonymous? Someone giving out money and saying look at

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me is pretty pretty horrible. Someone doing a similar thing

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anonymously retains some kind of charm. There are good people left

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in the world. If you have been on either end of a ran done act of

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kindness, we would like to know about it. Drop us a line and we

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will put the best on the show next week.

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Speaking from experience, a sewer is not a pleasant place to spend

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the afternoon. This is a build up of fat, sanitary items, coming into

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the sewerage system. I will never tire of seeing that.

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It was so hot in there. Modern sewers are less mucky and Marty

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Jopson has been in a cleaner version.

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Unthe streets of London, networks of tunnels transport people and

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power around the city. But now there is something digging much

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deeper. This is the top of the Lee tunnel shaft that plummets 75

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metres straight down. It is one of the deepest tunnels ever dug in the

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UK. It is an incredible feat of engineering. As I descend into the

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tunnel, trim travelling down the equivalent height of a 25 storey

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building. Nick is the construction manager. It is a thing of beauty.

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like to think so. My wife doesn't agree. The tunnel will be part of a

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new super sewer for London. The current system can't cope with the

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volume of sewage London produces an average 39 million tonnes of it is

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discharged from overflow points into the Thames every year. The Lee

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tunnel will capture this overflow and hold it until a treatment

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treatment plant has the capacity to deal with it. This is like a

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reservoir then. Yes, it prevents the discharge happening. A poo

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reservoir. Yes. To hold all the sewage the tunnel needs to be big.

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The width of three London buses. It also needs to be deep, to avoid

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damaging other tunnels. But getting down so keep has thrown up a

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massive problem. They have got to tunnel through very challenging

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geology. Behind these walls is a thick player lr fr -- layer of

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chalk, which is peppered with great chunks of this. This is flint and

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it is one of the hardest rocks known to man. Beneath London is the

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same layer of chalk and flint that appears on the south coast. It was

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formed more than 65 million years ago under a sea which covered much

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of Britain. Inside flint, you often get these funny grey shapes like

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this. This is actually the fossil of a sea sponge. It is the

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skeletons of sea creatures like these that made the flint. They

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contain silica which has a crystaline structure. Over millions

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of years this silica has turned Flint Flint scratches steel that

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means flint is harder than steel. Imagine what would happen to the

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machine that tries to dig through this stuff. How are they finding a

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way to tunnel through it? Meet busy Lizzie, named after the Queen, it

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is a tunnel boring machine, designed specifically for the Lee

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tunnel job. Presumably the head is in that direction somewhere. Yes,

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we are about another ten metres further forward than that. It is

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quite a long machine. The head of the machine rotates slowly against

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the rock face. This is where busy Lizzie gets clever. Here you can

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see blue disc built into the wheel. There are 20, custom designed to

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grind through the flint. Up close I get a chance to see exactly how

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they do it. These are the boys that are doing all the work. How does

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that work?. If you pick up the flint and put it up to the edge

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here and what happens, this spins round and you have got the thrust

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of the machine as well, which is enough to crack that. Busy Lizzie

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is making short work of the flint here, moving forward 17 metres a

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day. That is 3,000 tonnes of rock every day being removed as part of

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London's new super sewer. The Lee tunnel will be completed in

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2015, helping prevent millions of tonnes of sewage flowing into the

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Thames. Earlier on as Martin is here we

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asked for pictures of you in the forces back in 1960. We have been

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inundated. This is Danny Grant. He was in the police force for 30

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years in Strathclyde as a superintendent. Now lives in Loch

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Matt Baker and Alex Jones present the stories that matter from across the country.

Matt and Alex are joined by actor Martin Shaw, who talks about the new series of Inspector George Gently.

We meet the man who is giving away thousands of pounds to strangers in apparently random acts of kindness. We visit the police auction where it is perfectly legal to sell on stolen goods, and John Sergeant continues his stunning journey around some of Scotland's remotest lochs.